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@@Seanonyoutube chill, they can support whoever they want and be supported by whoever they want. You calling Gillete a bad sponsor gives no reason to why they might be and is simple hate. They cared enough to sponsor an informative video on a hot topic that means a lot to many Americans
@@Seanonyoutube They probably liked the commercial and agree with the ideas so they let this be a commercial for Gillette especially with that ending and the football player shaving
Jubilee why don’t you guys flip the script and have women in there talking about femininity? To me locker room talk and women gossiping and telling their girlfriend all of your personal business are just as bad.
When the Asian guy explained how his dad felt he was a "Kitten" and some of the guys told him how much of a man he was that was really touching. Being able to validate something he struggled with was a really great gesture.
Honestly I almost teared up too. Struggling with that thought is very hard, it’s one of the biggest struggles on our journeys to manhood. It’s relieving to hear it being discussed. That’s something we normally all emotionally deal with silently and privately.
I feel bad because he keeps the guilt of never showing his dad that he was a man or never was able to meet his expectations while he was alive even tho he hit his own expectations. I think it’s better to meet your own expectations than your parents because you feel that you did good. You know what I’m saying.
@@michaelw.9657 it is better to meet your own expectations but the feels meeting your parents expectations and be a pride for them is very important especially in asian culture
The way sean ran to Kyle and gave him a hug as if he was hugging an older brother really got me. This guy just wants to be accepted and validated and Kyle was there
@@JoeyZero123 but Kyle knew his intentions. He knew that Sean needed a hug which is why he initiated the group hug. Truely a very positive masculininty moment
I usually don’t get too involved with UA-cam but I found myself tearing up hearing the man speak who’s father took his own life and one of the last things he remembers him saying is “how come I’m a tiger and my son is a kitten”. He never received validation from his dad, I hope this man finds peace.
A lot of people with depression and who take there own life have insecurities of there own which could be a reason he projects his insecurities on his son in reality his father may have felt like a kitten
"Blood, sweat, and tears" I'm a profesional chef. I work in kitchens 8-12 hours a day, 5-7 days a week. I've bled, I've sweated, and I've definitely cried. If you put passion into something you care about, that makes you just as much of a man as any athlete.
As a teenage male it’s very interesting to see how older men respond to these questions and I think that it would be extremely valuable to see how teenagers feel about these topics.
Wouldn’t doubt at all that that guy is saying what’s expected, in a way most of them likely do because of current social pressure. He looks a certain way so he has to act in a way to try to prove he doesn’t behave in the way people would assume
I like how the guy turned Lockeroom Talk into something he’s comfortable with, instead of considering a place where u act like a toxic dude, he considered it a place where u can express ur emotions and guys r gonna be there to talk to u, while also being a place where u can socialize. He turned the meaning upside down in a good way
@@danielsnake23checking men for their misbehavior is necessary. Locker rooms aren’t. I understand the necessity for a safe space but a space to be an ahole is by definition not safe.
He was an Offensive Guard for the Chicago Bears. He just retired this year. He is the brother of Chris Long who played Defensive End for multiple team, and won the Superbowl with the Philadelphia Eagles in the 2017 season. They both are the sons of Pro Football Hall of Famer Howie Long who played Defensive End for the Las Angeles/Oakland Raiders
This is what has been the meaning of "man up", People don't realize that is true masculinity, accepting our vulnerability and showing it to the world therefore making us more resilient. Men share their concerns with other men because they first of all can more than likely relate or share what mistakes they have made to show a better path. (not saying that there hasn't been abuse of the term before, most times this is what it means)
@@SomeOne_1409 Fr like I hate that we try to strive for equality yet we aren't just ditching basing the actions of someone off of their gender, skin color, and sexuality
Validating other people's struggles is often overlooked and so so important. You can tell that Erik really felt safe enough to open up to the other men. This episode brought a tear to my eye. I love this episode.
R feminine men are emotionally unstable. And let the escalation of emotionally unstable marriages and families begin! Fun! I’ve been married for 10 years
@@神の人-f2k I actually like how you worded that. (I'm gonna use that in the future XD) my answer is yes and no. He held a different opinion on a couple, but his insight on the topics were well thought out and he made great points. He calmly explained them
@@神の人-f2k Of course. As long as they're respectful and open to hearing how I view things. As long as a mature conversation takes place, I wouldnt have a problem. And may I just say, I'm moderate, politically. I know many conservatives with their own separate opinions. Just because people don't agree, doesn't mean that they can't respect one another. Thats childish.
I'm just proud overall that men nowadays are this open, honest, and hold such respect for other men, coming from the place they were coming from with huge understanding. they all displayed masculinity in all of its facets. if this is where masculinity is headed then we're good.
Why are women allowed to be as feminine as they want without being viewed as toxic while men have to act a certain way or else society views them as toxic?
@@KTJ1101 men are allowed to be "masculine", who's stopping them? who's forcing men to be feminine? if anything society forces men to be stereotypically masculine, and that stereotypical masculinity has aspects that can be harmful to both men and women, that's what toxic masculinity refers to. masculinity itself is not bad at all, the *negative* aspects of stereotypical masculinity that's perpetuated by and pushed onto men is the problem. if you want examples of the negative aspects I can provide some but maybe you know what I mean
@@Smellystinkyfarts Kyle and his dad Howie and the Long family really are those opposites of the norm kinda people. at least what has been showed to us in their popular famous lives
Jurnalist it still feels like he’s trying too hard to push against the norm so that people admire him but I could be totally wrong and he could be a genuine guy but something just feels off
I hope Erik realizes he doesn’t have to meet his dad’s expectations and that thriving and being proud of yourself, independent of *anyone’s* expectations of who/what you should be, is truly what makes him a man.
Wings of truth is a troll that's randomly here on these videos. He'll just escalate it, so I'd just ignore him or her? Idk. I really hope Erik gets the mental help he needs cause he's not only dealing with too high of standards but also grief and insecurities.
Tearing up at how they encouraged him thinking he didn’t achieve his dad’s expectation of being a man. This is the best video yet & the definition of manhood that the world needs.
I love how Kyle and Rob are so confident in themselves and just generally really considerate, I bet Rob is an amazing father. I hope Erik will come to peace with the fact that he will probably never meet his dad's unrealistic expectations too
@@schneiderjean-pierre4085 Not the one you asked but I wanted to answer as well, hope you don't mind - based on the views he (CJ) expressed in this video, I don't think he's a horrible father, but because of how he expressed his views on women, what a man's role is etc. no I don't think he'd be as great of a father as Rob would be - simply bc the views he holds may be too strict and too restricting for a child to flourish and become their own person, because he holds some beliefs that are so dead end, that there's no room for development it feels like.
Alystxo what views because if he's anything like his own father, who he has a great relationship with, I don't understand. His father was very supportive and instilled his beliefs and morals on him. What's the point of becoming an adult, going through life and learning, if not to advise aid or guide your children. That's the big difference between them because CJs father was just as supportive and encouraging the only difference is his father had a belief that helped guide him through life and he passed it to him. If I have something I believe to be good I'm going to teach it to my kids if they accept it cool if they don't fine. Another thing I think you should consider is to be able to be as supportive as you want all parents to be, you have to have that kind of money. My parents can't afford to support me in my dreams so of course they tried to guide me to the most guaranteed path to success. You can't expect everyone to parent the same way. Once you have kids and money you can be super supportive. Most parents do the best that they can, can't be mad at my parents for that and the strictness helped harden me for life because I wasn't gonna have that support so I needed that, otherwise idk where I would be.
when Erik talked about his dad saying that Erik is a kitten really stuck out to me. Erik keep it up your a true man, strong and independent. were all rooting for you!
Oof. I teared up. Made me think of all the little sentences that formed my life. I wish him the very best. Also it is okay to be a kitten. I prefer kittens over tigers honestly....
I thought that was so sweet that these group of men were able to have a real hug and not just a quick little “bro hug”(which there’s nothing wrong with)
Dude, Kyle Long went to my high school. I knew him when I was little. He carried my friend on his shoulders for field day. I'm so proud to see that he didn't feed into that "Manly Man" stereotype and completely redefined what it is to be a man.
When they “tackled” him at the end and hugged him, I just about cried. I am really glad things are starting to change, and I can be a “man” in the modern day.
Bro trust me you should be yourself, but no woman ever has said: i want a man that cry’s about a lot of stuff! Keep your emotions and impulses under control and you’ll do fine.
Dear Erik, you spoke your truth to millions of people; that takes some real courage. If you, in your heart, feel that you are a good person and you do everything you can to keep being a good person, you are a man. You are a great man, in fact. :)
I appreciate having Kyle in this. A lot of folks can listen more when there’s someone held to a specific standard discussing the same topics (football player = masculine). He has a great perspective on the topics. I hope more men can resonate with what he and the others said. Also I LOVE the backstory editing to get more knowledge of who is participating. Great addition!
Jeremy Shaw ikr... Sometime people hesitate to tell about something when no one leading the discussion or afraid to say something in fear of judgement but Kyle kinda direct the discussion into the right discussion and make everyone talk. This is one of the best Jubilee spectrum video.
It’s a terrible idea to have a famous person on the show. He’s not on there to give his real opinions, he’s on there to boost his public image which is not why we watch this show
TheUnown4 I can see that as a potential issue, but is he saying things that folks cannot resonate with? Is it something that people should not believe? There are actual people, like myself, who believe exactly what he is saying. That does not make him incorrect or false for saying them. You don’t know him and you don’t know the scenario. Immediately jumping to a conclusion that this is a falsehood negates the connection that was made between those men.
Erik running towards Kyle first of all the guys at the end to tackle/hug him after Kyle reassured him he's a man is the sweetest thing I've ever seen 😭
@@samueljackson315 Yeah, that classic "I'm afraid of getting hurt so I'll say the negative thing before you can voice your opinion, that way I'm safe" mentality.
@Zomber WonderClan Fair enough. I guess we're all kind of tired of incels dehumanizing "fembots" so we sometimes let that frustration out on them, or people we assume belong to that group. But you're right, there's reason to be more compassionate. And maybe save the harsher reactions for when someone is being an absolute ass-hat instead.
I’ve got huge respect for all these guys for opening up like that, especially Erik. I doubt you’ll ever see this, but the way you opened up and expressed yourself is beyond what many men will ever be able to do. I’ve got huge respect for you.
Ok, Rob in the red shirt is such a heartwarming, wholesome human, and so is the football player. I feel like what positive masculinity and femininity are coming down to are how to be a good human being. We should all try to stand up for our friends and for what's right, and to accept ourselves as we really are. Great conversation. And DAMN, Erik you are so strong. My heart broke for you when you told your story.
@@MotionMasterMike not all men , just most of the men in these comments who say women are like children and don’t speak up because they won’t hurt people’s feelings but once they do they accuse them of being hormonal . Other than that I love all men who don’t talk down on women and have a high ego . Any women or man who has a high ego can leave
@@owenrogers3790 while that’s a valid point, you can generally tell when someone was raised better than someone else. I’m not saying there’s one way to raise someone, I’m just saying there are better ways than others
@@owenrogers3790 I disagree. Being raised right is to be respectful, kind, and decent to others. There is something called different personality traits and quirks, however if we can’t agree on what makes a decent human being .. I’m afraid to tell you that you weren’t raised right
What do you mean “raised right”. He was raised fine but I personally think he has a wrong perception of masculinity and Jubilee just put him there as a way to boost leftism. Also, is he respectable because his opinions align with yours?
@@dagda3000 You seem very insecure. You might benefit from a bit of therapy or a support group of some sort. You're okay as you are, you don't need to prove you're "manlier" than anyone else.
dagda3000 His dad physically abused his mom and was also an alcoholic. His mom ends up divorcing and turning into a strict Christian. He doesn’t want people to end up like his dad who kept physically abusing his mom.
@@GoddoDoggo Has nothing to do with insecurity. I am just annoyed that this multi-national company Gillette is pushing this weak image of masculinity just because they want to sell beauty products also to men. We both know that the absolute majority of women do not want to be with soft woke men. This emasculation of men is probably worse for women than it is for men.
As an autistic man, locker room talk is the worst part of being a man, and it's the primary reason I was only friends with girls until I was in college and some of the guys had matured out of it
@@charbelalam2648 locker room talk is when males discuss sex and drugs. They talk about women they slept with and game plans to sleep with more. They also mentions drugs that they have tried and encourage others to do the same. Growing up christian, I always hated it as a kid and still hate it as an adult. I think the only pro is that men can vent their frustration about life and get practical solutions. The only problems is that the solutions are based on bad advice
@@mario125ww I mean you just pigeon hold what locker room talk is. Which was exactly discussed in this video???? As the black man said he experienced lovker room talk as a safe space to talk about men related topics. Dsnt mean it always involves sex or objectifying people. Its just been hijacked. "locker room talk is when males discuss sex and drugs. They talk about women they slept with and game plans to sleep with more." I mean the fact you deevolve what it is to something like the sentence above is quite sad.
@@maxpowers4436 no I gave it context. If locker room talk was about men topics only, women wouldn't have a problem with it. So me mentioning the biggest controversy about it is warrant. Also at the end, I mention a pro of it which is what you mentioned: men issues
@@joshuaenzo1282 hey a man can express himself how ever he wants but if he's a guy that wants other guy friends but lacks many masculine traits himself then hes gonna struggle to have those friends, it's hard to respect a beta male
I can see Sean questioning his opinion when he’s to the opposite of Kyle and it’s sad to see men wanting to be accepted to the masculine side they look up to. I’m glad Kyle is such a great figure to society
being a man isn't about towering over others. it's about going down to someone's level in their time of need and helping to lift them back up onto their feet. that's how I see it at least
it’s natural to make assumptions based on numerous and faulty accurate generalized stereotypes however acting upon those before that individual is allowed to express themselves is wrong. I think it’s fine that they noticed someone outside of the stereotype 🤷
I would disagree because if you take into account the amount of eyes he has on him and how peoples' views would impact his million dollar career, anyone would lie to save it. So he is most likely bot being 100% honest
@@Артем-т1к5ч yeah but that's how people change and become better. They take into account others opinions and form their own from the information given. It hindsight, it doesn't really matter if he is completely honest because he is still setting a good example and seems like he's someone that would help others out.
"you have to put blood sweat and tears into something." Do you know how many times I have cried over the artwork, sweat from playing instruments, cutting my finger on needles, and paper? Art requires blood sweat and tears my guy.
At first, I was surprised to see some of the men strongly agree about "Locker room talk is part of being a man." But hearing CJ explain that it's more of a safe space for men to talk, makes a lot of sense. Really glad I get to hear different people's perspectives on topics I had already had a strong opinion about, it helps me be more open minded.
I don't even know what locker room talk exactly means. But if it means talking sex and fantasizing about women, it's ok. It's not a necessary part of being a man, but it can be a part. I disagree with the man in the red shirt that it's objectifying women.
@Brad1156 As I said in my comment, I admit at first I didn't understand how locker room talk was part of being a man, but after hearing the explanation from CJ I understand it now. That's the point of videos from Jubilee, they put videos with topics that people would have a strong opinion about and have people in those topics explain their viewpoint. It's okay to have a certain opinion at the start of the video and change your mind at the end of it because you heard other people's explanations of the topic.
When I’m with the guys I say a lot of things I don’t really mean. We are all just joking around. We take things too far, but it is a safe place to do it. We might say offensive things, but we’re not actually going to act on them
@Brad1156 I think the whole thing is trying to set a better standard for people in general not just men. Yes you're right men and women do talk about people they find attractive and talk to their friends about how they're essentially thirsty for that person and what they would want to do with that person and that PERFECTLY FINE. Its when the comments become rapey or disgusting thats the real problem. And I understand the argument of "Well we're not acting on it. Just bantering and whatever" but why do you need to degrade people to have fun and joke? Its immature if anything and it can be applied to alot of issues not just locker room talk between men and women. It extends to people making 'casual racist' remarks for example that they precieve as harmless. Again, nothing wrong with just gossiping and having fun. But it shouldnt be at the expense of someone else especially if you're aware it would make them uncomfortable should they ever find out. I'll say this, at my school a few years ago, a few boys had a group chat on snapchat where every week they would select a girl from the class and in the chat they would rate her, have rape fantasys about her, even bet on who she would sleep with first. This was found out by the school and the girls and alot of girls felt extremely violated, disgusted and so on. Yet the defence was 'it was just locker room talk. We werent gonna do anything.' And I know this seems like Im just pointing out an incident in boys but girls do it too and its not okay either way. Like the dude in the video said, if you heard something offensive, the 'locker room' type environment should be a space to talk about that behaviour, learn something. Encourage a better behaviour for yourself and friends rather than just allow degrading behaviour to continue cause its 'just jokes between guys'
My father taught me how NOT to be a man. He walked out on me and my mother. I now have 2 children and a wife of 5 years. I am the man of my life. He taught me how NOT to be a dad. I will always be in my children's lives. I have a beard, and take more care of it than my wife takes care of her hair. I lean on my wife in times of need and vice versa. I love these videos Jubilee. They start discussions, they inspire. Keep them coming.
there's nothing that makes a man less in my eyes than a guy who abandons his kids. especially if after, they just flounder around like they're single. *of course he meant they're together for 5 years.
I was a bit worried about this video making me upset, but this was actually quite wonderful discourse, and i think everyone involved learned something, and that’s what this is all about.
I’m really glad Kyle was there. Sean was doubting himself as a man because of what his father had told him “being a kitten” and I’m glad Kyle was there to say listen you are a man you deserve to be over here just like the rest of us. Not every guy fits into the big muscular deep voiced strong man. But that doesn’t make you any less of a man because you don’t fit into that specific category. There’s so many other qualities that make you a man and putting such high standards on yourself to fit into that box will only damage how you see yourself as you get older. Trust me you are seen and you are appreciated just like Kyle sees Sean as a man we view it the same way.
@@shae__6416 his dad was the head of an gang, obviously he's going to want his son to be ruthless, since his son wasn't the man was disappointed, now if the father was a florist and his son became a drug lord his father would have also been disappointed, probably would've said I wanted a dove but created a vulture, so he wouldn't have won regardless
David Medina that’s not an excuse. He had all that time as a father to change the way he was impacting his own son. He said that and meant it until he passed. Even the football player doesn’t feel the same way and he’s a football player. The whole entire point of this video was to talk about toxic masculinity. If all the men have the same view points and even a nfl football player can change it and make them see better his dad had the opportunity to do so as well. It was wrong and if you can’t admit it this video isn’t for you I guess.
All the men on this episode were outstanding! The way they opened up and were there for each other was beautiful and how they respected each others views. Wish them a lot of happiness and health.
Around 7 years ago I was working at target when Kyle long and some other bears came in with kids who who were underprivileged economically to get them Christmas presents. I come up to him and said can I help you find anything. In the most sincere helpful voice he asks the kid he was helping out "what would you like". He replied teenage mutant ninja turtles. I helped him find them. This is in my opinion what Kyle displayed of kindness and compassion to that kid when I met him was it means to be a true man. The things he Is saying he seems(kindness and creativity) he acts about and isn't just saying. He has the ethos of what most celebrities and sports star and even man should drive towards.
Growing up without a dad .....I think the effects on the women depend on the character of their dad and wether it's was because the dad died or left. How they left and so many factors.
i have met girls without a dad, and some of them had daddy issues and want an older guy as a bf, husband and SOMETIMES not always they take that as a replacement for a Male role on their life.
This was the first video where I felt all the participants had at least one good point. Everyone was respectable. Overall the most positive and my favorite Jubilee video
Kyle needs to become Erik’s mentor. That would be amazing. (Side note: I know Erik irl and we haven’t talked in a while so I was pleasantly surprised to see him in this. He’s a super friendly, warm, thoughtful person. Sorry that living up to your dad’s expectations have been so hard dude. I totally relate. I’ve also struggle a lot with family expectations. Sometimes standards are just unreachable because being a person isn’t just about checking off things on a checklist.)
Whalium I haven’t seen you in a while, but I’m so glad that I met you. Your kind words speak to how great you are yourself and I’d love to catch up with you in a heartbeat! Kyle is amazing and I’d love to be mentored by him. Cheers to building our own paths and futures while living with family expectations 🥂
@@haritasoujanya Not true at all actually. Some are born leaders, and some are born followers. Of course, that has nothing to do with gender, but it is fallacious to claim that everyone has equal traits when it comes to leadership. If you look at other species that work in groups, there is a clear distinction between leaders and followers. Humans are no different.
@@anakinskywalker8996 but don't you ever make decisions for yourself?don't you ever lead yourself to the right path without some other person leading you in some situations? we need not always lead a group to be a leader. we all have that lil leadership, atleast to guide ourselves.
The group hug was wonderful! I'm also glad, I think his name is Eric, was able to open up about his dad. I'm really happy that the others were so supportive of him and validated him.
Most of these guys came from prestigious schools. Even tho they got there because of their athletic ability. If you look up some players GPAs to the schools they went to you’d really be surprised.
I was so sad to hear the one guy talk about his dad who called him a kitten. Knowing that his dad has passed away and they can't mend that bridge... Ugh 😭
From the context that I got I just heard envy in that statement, that the father couldn't cope with something that a kitten could handle. That the father would've liked to handle life more like how Erik have done. Idk I don't want to come across as insensitive but I think that his father looked up to him more than he'd ever know
If he was a tiger, his son wouldn't be a house cat. He's an ocelot, who likely married a lynx, and who is now compaining that their child didn't turn out to be a Siberian tiger. If his dead was a tiger, he could have made a tiger cub with a female tiger.
This is the first discussion I have seen in a long time where they disagreed but openly shared and respected each others opinion. Sometimes it feels like we are losing raw honesty and respect for different opinions at the moment, so I found this video really refreshing.
I love the addition of the background bits on everyone, really gives us a chance to get to know them more and understand their choices in the video. Also applaud you guys for getting someone who is (making an assumption here because he is an NFL player) idolized for his masculinity to come on and engage in some real talk. I feel like there is a general assumption that the voices in these kinds of conversations are always coming from people who embrace more stereotypically feminine traits, so it really warms my heart that we have here an open conversation between some great guys who embrace all aspects of just being people.
"Do all college/university employees think the same" would be really insightful. Statements like: -I think my department is more important than others -I think some subjects are a waste of time and money -The administration at my school cares about its employees -I am satisfied with my wage and benefits I think it would be really cool if it wasn't just professors, but also administrators, people who work in housing, maintenance and food service. Colleges are so complex and employ so many people, but people from other areas don't always interact. There's also the issues of for-profit vs state vs non-profit universities and how funding or lack thereof influences certain things.
Idk I feel most of topics and people involved in the spectrum are things everyone knows about and are Hard hitting topics. Not everyone understand or can even relate to your topic. Wouldn't get alot of revenue I guess
@@EpicTacoSenpai You are probably right. After all, I came up with this topic because I am a college student. I'm sure the prompt could be applied to k-12 schools (interviewing administrators, teachers, janitors, counselors) or to different working classes (do all blue-collar or white collar workers think the same). Education and the workplace are much broader than just a university, and those are topics that I'd really love to see explored!
love it. I like how I got to see that I'm not the only person who's trying to redefine what a man is. I honestly though a man like Kyle Long would be a bit more aggressive and conserved than he seems. But he's kind and passionate for other men as well. He isn't afraid to show care. Brotherhood.
Wow. I'm so happy Jubilee did an episode on this. I was definitely tearing up. Talking about masculinity is SO important to not only help men become better but for everyone to become better. Whether it's masculinity or femininity in my opinion it comes down to the core of what respect is. Respect for your fellow human being no matter their race, gender, class, identity, age etc. Thank you so much Jubilee for getting some amazing men so speak about this topic.
I love how they presented Kyle Long as his own person, not necessarily that he was NFL Hall of Famer Howie Long's son. When they asked about their father's I thought that would be brought up, but when it wasn't and it was kept to Kyle the amount of respect increased exponentially.
DarthYuYevon your correct, buts that’s only because it’s not just the words that mean something, Kyle exemplifies a man is both physically and mentally very high level both of these things add to his words.
As a female, I really appreciate videos like this because I know how different society treats men when it comes to open conversations, masculinity, and emotions, and so this video really was great for me to see a glimpse into the male perspective! I love what you guys are doing with these videos and starting conversations many people are afraid to have, great work Jubilee!!
@@WomenofHighValue This is both offensive and wrong, your part of the reason men to to fit in because you care so much about being 'masculine' and take the piss out of others who aren't
Samno108 it takes more than opening your emotions up to be a man. To be a man requires emotional stability, being strong, being able to do and perform, to compete and dominate, and provide safety and security for women. Being feminine does none of that. Kyle Long is being paid for saying what he says, and it is disturbing to say the least. Don’t worry, I’ll stop commenting on this video, because it is sickening what Gillette is doing to the world, and don’t want to promote them any more by engaging :) However, I love people, I love women and I love families - and they are the entire reason why i write what I write. I’ve got a long ways to go to help the world become a better place by understanding the true aspects of masculinity and femininity
Dude in the blue shirt... The fact he doesn't live up to his father's expectations says far more about his answers than the answer he gave. The insight is crazy
@@jakubpuchalski2583Fine, everyone has their own two feet. But the mentality you have around confidence and independence someone like Erik might not have reached. Maybe you can be your own person, if you knew how to. Erik might not have learned these things because no one had built him up and encouraged him. Yes these people are sometimes full of bad excuses and avoid responsibility as well as standing up for themselves maybe because they have no balls. To have the reason and bravery to stand up for yourself doesn’t come naturally to everybody. I think it’s kind of Ignorant to assume that people aren’t different and don’t work differently. And you probably feel so too I hope. So how do you think you’re helping? You’re totally assuming Eriks (and everyone else’s) situation. I think it sometimes works to say to someone to be their own person. I just feel like your comment was careless by not taking that into account.
This episode of Spectrum wouldn't have been possible without Gillette and Walgreens - thank you for giving these men a space to discuss masculinity and identity! Visit your local Walgreens or walgreens.com for your favorite Gillette products. What was your favorite moment from the discussion?
Jubilee Gillette is just about the worst sponsor you could’ve gotten for this video.
@@Seanonyoutube chill, they can support whoever they want and be supported by whoever they want. You calling Gillete a bad sponsor gives no reason to why they might be and is simple hate. They cared enough to sponsor an informative video on a hot topic that means a lot to many Americans
@@Seanonyoutube They probably liked the commercial and agree with the ideas so they let this be a commercial for Gillette especially with that ending and the football player shaving
Jubilee why don’t you guys flip the script and have women in there talking about femininity? To me locker room talk and women gossiping and telling their girlfriend all of your personal business are just as bad.
My least favourite part is the times it's so obvious that it's sponsored and how plastic that makes the rest of the video feel
When the Asian guy explained how his dad felt he was a "Kitten" and some of the guys told him how much of a man he was that was really touching. Being able to validate something he struggled with was a really great gesture.
Ruby da cherry
Ruby does not exist
I was tearing up 🥺🥺
Honestly I almost teared up too. Struggling with that thought is very hard, it’s one of the biggest struggles on our journeys to manhood. It’s relieving to hear it being discussed. That’s something we normally all emotionally deal with silently and privately.
It's so important for men to stand up for each other and help build each other up
I love that the prompt is on the bottom of the screen throughout the segment.
Agreed. I used to have to constantly rewind if I missed the prompt or forgot what it was.
same. in the past the audio hast always been clear i couldn't understand what the prompt was and no amount playing it back helped
Bort same, I’d step away for a little bit and then have to go back
YES! Cause when I get distracted when they ask the question I look back and I just see everyone moving and don't know what happening lol
same
When they all told the Asian guy that he was a man and that he could even have the black guy as his dad. THAT WAS TOUCHING. Beautiful
I feel bad because he keeps the guilt of never showing his dad that he was a man or never was able to meet his expectations while he was alive even tho he hit his own expectations. I think it’s better to meet your own expectations than your parents because you feel that you did good. You know what I’m saying.
Literally made me tear up its so sad, im glad they are so supportive!
That was simply sad. In a bad way.
@@michaelw.9657 it is better to meet your own expectations but the feels meeting your parents expectations and be a pride for them is very important especially in asian culture
this part actively upset me, tbh
he's the most unKyle Kyle of the Kyle community
AHAHAHA
"The kyle community" I can't lmfaooo
Now he is a high ranking officer
He's definitely a Kyle on the gridiron
right
The way sean ran to Kyle and gave him a hug as if he was hugging an older brother really got me. This guy just wants to be accepted and validated and Kyle was there
Pretty sure he was trying to tackle him for $ 1 million
@@JoeyZero123 If you call a good ol' hug a tackle then... I guess
@@JoeyZero123 but Kyle knew his intentions. He knew that Sean needed a hug which is why he initiated the group hug. Truely a very positive masculininty moment
I usually don’t get too involved with UA-cam but I found myself tearing up hearing the man speak who’s father took his own life and one of the last things he remembers him saying is “how come I’m a tiger and my son is a kitten”. He never received validation from his dad, I hope this man finds peace.
TooFacedBaby05 he find can find peace from the prince of peace. Jesus is the answer
A lot of people with depression and who take there own life have insecurities of there own which could be a reason he projects his insecurities on his son in reality his father may have felt like a kitten
@@jacksonlowe3993 your probably right
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Rob is clearly such a good dad and cares about his daughter.
Thanks, Sydney! I definitely do. She and my wife are truly amazing
MrBeast I am 🙌
Glad someone said it. He seems like an amazing father.
Lol MrBeast randomly chilling in the comment section
Sydney Reynolds SO HERE FOR IT ♥️
"Blood, sweat, and tears"
I'm a profesional chef. I work in kitchens 8-12 hours a day, 5-7 days a week. I've bled, I've sweated, and I've definitely cried. If you put passion into something you care about, that makes you just as much of a man as any athlete.
Working kitchen is HARD theres a reason depression is high in ppl who work.back of house. Definitely not for the weak
Saaame.. Wounds just dont heal!! T_T
"I've bleed, I've sweated, and I've definitely cried"
But, like... not IN the food, rigth?
That’s beautiful! Well said 🥰
And thanks to this comment the health department is coming.
"I see you as a tiger" I SQUEALED. THIS MAN IS IS GOOD.
what a dad
You squealed like a mouse
Whole ass woke my girlfriend up and everything
Tyler K. Totally agree
eva parke
LesBEEEun
- Jesse lee Peterson
lol jk but the jlp guy is such a troll if u see his channel
As a teenage male it’s very interesting to see how older men respond to these questions and I think that it would be extremely valuable to see how teenagers feel about these topics.
oh you're right, I hadn't thought about that. and btw you're crazy eloquent.
@@maygreene5436 Thank you
I as a female teenager felt the same in the “do all women think the same” video
Young boys and men desperately need positive role models. Too many boys out there raising themselves, it's sad.
@@MsMusicalBeans true.
The NFL player and guy in red sweater...I would love to be friends.
Indeed
Wouldn’t doubt at all that that guy is saying what’s expected, in a way most of them likely do because of current social pressure. He looks a certain way so he has to act in a way to try to prove he doesn’t behave in the way people would assume
Just because you don’t agree with a person doesn’t mean being friends with them would be bad. I would be friends with all of them
@@richardinis I never said that I agree or disagree with anything. I’d be friends with anyone really so long as they are kind.
Which one of the guy is nfl playerrr?? 😭😭
I like how the guy turned Lockeroom Talk into something he’s comfortable with, instead of considering a place where u act like a toxic dude, he considered it a place where u can express ur emotions and guys r gonna be there to talk to u, while also being a place where u can socialize. He turned the meaning upside down in a good way
I think CJ views were the most reasonable. Long and red sweater were spewing nonsense.
@@danieljenkins7951 Just say you don't understand their perspectives and be done with it mate.
Have you ever thought of the wild notion that a person can disagree while understanding their argument?
locker room talk is essential for men. men need men to check them when they do something wrong.
@@danielsnake23checking men for their misbehavior is necessary. Locker rooms aren’t. I understand the necessity for a safe space but a space to be an ahole is by definition not safe.
Honestly idk who Kyle Long is but I really respected everything he said. I liked how vulnerable and truthful everyone was
He was an Offensive Guard for the Chicago Bears. He just retired this year. He is the brother of Chris Long who played Defensive End for multiple team, and won the Superbowl with the Philadelphia Eagles in the 2017 season. They both are the sons of Pro Football Hall of Famer Howie Long who played Defensive End for the Las Angeles/Oakland Raiders
This is what has been the meaning of "man up", People don't realize that is true masculinity, accepting our vulnerability and showing it to the world therefore making us more resilient. Men share their concerns with other men because they first of all can more than likely relate or share what mistakes they have made to show a better path. (not saying that there hasn't been abuse of the term before, most times this is what it means)
you would probably attack him if he didn't agree with your views
CallMeB nah I wouldn’t attack anyone but thanks for your input
I totaly agree. And it's funny how I imagined that he woud be that "Manly Man", because of my judging by appearances, but he's certainly not.
The man in the red shirt was my favorite honestly. All of his opinions were respectful he wasn't sexist and he just wasn't scared to be himself
Thanks! I try hard to be open, honest, and respectful. I’m happy you saw that.
Southgate Media Group I'm sure you're a great dad also you kinda restored my faith in men along with a few others, keep it up man !
Must be a great husband & dad
@@pretty948 restored!! means you lost faith in men!! like all men. That's huge.
@@SomeOne_1409 Fr like I hate that we try to strive for equality yet we aren't just ditching basing the actions of someone off of their gender, skin color, and sexuality
When they said “you’re a man, I see you as a tiger, get over here.” I lost it. So loving.
Emma Matheson ya righttt and when he said “you can use my dad” it was just so comforting.
Fr they were sooooo understanding i loved it
Tigers suck. They only exist, because we think they are cute. Wild pigs are the true chads. While humans spread so did wild pigs.
@@MrCmon113 lol tigers are Savage wtf are you talking about?
Validating other people's struggles is often overlooked and so so important. You can tell that Erik really felt safe enough to open up to the other men. This episode brought a tear to my eye. I love this episode.
the football player was so wholesome and so intelligent within his own thoughts and i’m very glad he was featured in this episode
honestly! such a good man
Vudi
A very rare thing these days.
Add Bow If Girl Don't ruin it. He's a great man, but not a rare one. Get out more.
hot too
All the guys in the Long family are super wholesome and smart.
"you're a tiger" "you can use my dad if you want"
My god these guys are so sweet can I be friends with them?
Random guys coming with offers..... In 3,2,1....😂😂
*Allow me in introduce myself*
The “sweeter” men become, the harsher women will become.
@@WomenofHighValue lol ok
R feminine men are emotionally unstable.
And let the escalation of emotionally unstable marriages and families begin! Fun!
I’ve been married for 10 years
The NFL player is a ridiculously respectable person. I hold him in very high esteem after watching this video
Respectable because he has the same opinion as you?
@@神の人-f2k I actually like how you worded that. (I'm gonna use that in the future XD) my answer is yes and no. He held a different opinion on a couple, but his insight on the topics were well thought out and he made great points. He calmly explained them
@@dragonartist223 Oh ok. So if a conservative or someone who completely disagreed with you was calm and had good insight, you’d respect them too?
@@神の人-f2k Of course. As long as they're respectful and open to hearing how I view things. As long as a mature conversation takes place, I wouldnt have a problem. And may I just say, I'm moderate, politically. I know many conservatives with their own separate opinions. Just because people don't agree, doesn't mean that they can't respect one another. Thats childish.
@@神の人-f2k are you being intentionally obtuse and toxic or are you just not very bright?
I'm just proud overall that men nowadays are this open, honest, and hold such respect for other men, coming from the place they were coming from with huge understanding. they all displayed masculinity in all of its facets. if this is where masculinity is headed then we're good.
Agreed
Unfortunately not everybody is convinced yet. We still have some ways to go.
yess
Why are women allowed to be as feminine as they want without being viewed as toxic while men have to act a certain way or else society views them as toxic?
@@KTJ1101 men are allowed to be "masculine", who's stopping them? who's forcing men to be feminine? if anything society forces men to be stereotypically masculine, and that stereotypical masculinity has aspects that can be harmful to both men and women, that's what toxic masculinity refers to. masculinity itself is not bad at all, the *negative* aspects of stereotypical masculinity that's perpetuated by and pushed onto men is the problem. if you want examples of the negative aspects I can provide some but maybe you know what I mean
That nfl guy fought practically every stereotype
The Pro364 it feels manufactured it’s so opposite
I relate to him
im pretty sure he got paid to do that lol
@@Smellystinkyfarts Kyle and his dad Howie and the Long family really are those opposites of the norm kinda people. at least what has been showed to us in their popular famous lives
Jurnalist it still feels like he’s trying too hard to push against the norm so that people admire him but I could be totally wrong and he could be a genuine guy but something just feels off
I hope Erik realizes he doesn’t have to meet his dad’s expectations and that thriving and being proud of yourself, independent of *anyone’s* expectations of who/what you should be, is truly what makes him a man.
@WingsOfTruth What's wrong with being the one with glasses or blad nfl guy? They are true men
WingsOfTruth wtf
@WingsOfTruth definitely not what they said. And even if they are "beta", there is literally nothing wrong with that.
Wings of truth is a troll that's randomly here on these videos. He'll just escalate it, so I'd just ignore him or her? Idk. I really hope Erik gets the mental help he needs cause he's not only dealing with too high of standards but also grief and insecurities.
WingsOfTruth he was literally a football player. Are you the beta?
Tearing up at how they encouraged him thinking he didn’t achieve his dad’s expectation of being a man. This is the best video yet & the definition of manhood that the world needs.
e.cdawg his dad was a gang member I would consider that a good thing since u didn’t choose that path you are more of a man that him
These men were overly effeminate...
@@DCBfanboy what?
@@alejandrom7049 what?
@@alejandrom7049 I could go on like this forever, by the way
this is the most wholesome episode of spectrum I have ever seen I actually got teary eyed
I love how Kyle and Rob are so confident in themselves and just generally really considerate, I bet Rob is an amazing father.
I hope Erik will come to peace with the fact that he will probably never meet his dad's unrealistic expectations too
Ma Ei just wondering, but don't you think CJ is a great father too or would you believe that there is only one way to raise a child
@@schneiderjean-pierre4085 Not the one you asked but I wanted to answer as well, hope you don't mind - based on the views he (CJ) expressed in this video, I don't think he's a horrible father, but because of how he expressed his views on women, what a man's role is etc. no I don't think he'd be as great of a father as Rob would be - simply bc the views he holds may be too strict and too restricting for a child to flourish and become their own person, because he holds some beliefs that are so dead end, that there's no room for development it feels like.
He is an amazing dad. You probably wont believe me but I've known his family since i was a kid
Alystxo what views because if he's anything like his own father, who he has a great relationship with, I don't understand. His father was very supportive and instilled his beliefs and morals on him. What's the point of becoming an adult, going through life and learning, if not to advise aid or guide your children. That's the big difference between them because CJs father was just as supportive and encouraging the only difference is his father had a belief that helped guide him through life and he passed it to him. If I have something I believe to be good I'm going to teach it to my kids if they accept it cool if they don't fine. Another thing I think you should consider is to be able to be as supportive as you want all parents to be, you have to have that kind of money. My parents can't afford to support me in my dreams so of course they tried to guide me to the most guaranteed path to success. You can't expect everyone to parent the same way. Once you have kids and money you can be super supportive. Most parents do the best that they can, can't be mad at my parents for that and the strictness helped harden me for life because I wasn't gonna have that support so I needed that, otherwise idk where I would be.
Alystxo there are probably a whole lot of grammatical errors but I just wanted to give you some food for thought
when Erik talked about his dad saying that Erik is a kitten really stuck out to me. Erik keep it up your a true man, strong and independent. were all rooting for you!
Oof. I teared up. Made me think of all the little sentences that formed my life. I wish him the very best.
Also it is okay to be a kitten. I prefer kittens over tigers honestly....
Thank you to you both, I’m on a great path. I’m glad there’s people like you in the world to lift people up
@@erikkhamphouy7723 You seem like a great person, and you deserve to be happy. Wishing you all the best.
@@erikkhamphouy7723
Bro I can't believe it. When I saw the thumbnail with your face, I was shooketh
@@erikkhamphouy7723 PLEASE don't take this the wrong way, but are you gay? asking for a friend
WHEN HE RAN TO HIM AND THEY HUGGED I started crying this was such a wholesome episode
RIGHT that was so sweet
CRINGE
I thought that was so sweet that these group of men were able to have a real hug and not just a quick little “bro hug”(which there’s nothing wrong with)
@@morpheus1111 The men and women here don’t find it cringe
@@morpheus1111 disliked.
Kyle Long ain't a man, he's *THE* man.
He’s a liar
I wanna see him and Andrew Tate debate
The asian guy was really brave in how he was able to open up.
Marcus Matousek I think his name is Erik, but yeah I agree with you 😊💜
Everyone else was basically just following Kyle.
He made me tear up.
He played devils advocate but he came from a really genuine place. his experiences were particularly insightful.
He is a man, cause a real man talks about his feelings 👌🏼👌🏼🔥
Dude, Kyle Long went to my high school. I knew him when I was little. He carried my friend on his shoulders for field day. I'm so proud to see that he didn't feed into that "Manly Man" stereotype and completely redefined what it is to be a man.
@WINTERBULLS KINGCHITOWN Yep! His name is dropped here all the time.
facts bc you dont have to be toxic to be a manly man. i think all these men are manly men, and i admire them for it
That "manly man" stereotype doesn't exist and it's sexist to say it is.
@@darkwolf4434 it does exist it's just rare to see people who follow it
@@Potatocrime24-7 Yeah, but the problem is to stereotype men as a group into that stereotype, I think it's dangerous to stereotype any group.
When they “tackled” him at the end and hugged him, I just about cried. I am really glad things are starting to change, and I can be a “man” in the modern day.
Bro you cried at that? Lmaooo surely there worthier things to shed tears for
What do you mean about things changing?
Bro trust me you should be yourself, but no woman ever has said: i want a man that cry’s about a lot of stuff! Keep your emotions and impulses under control and you’ll do fine.
NNJApanda you’re so wrong
Julxester - No he’s not. Most women don’t fuck emotional men lol
Dear Erik, you spoke your truth to millions of people; that takes some real courage. If you, in your heart, feel that you are a good person and you do everything you can to keep being a good person, you are a man. You are a great man, in fact. :)
I appreciate having Kyle in this. A lot of folks can listen more when there’s someone held to a specific standard discussing the same topics (football player = masculine). He has a great perspective on the topics. I hope more men can resonate with what he and the others said.
Also I LOVE the backstory editing to get more knowledge of who is participating. Great addition!
Jeremy Shaw ikr... Sometime people hesitate to tell about something when no one leading the discussion or afraid to say something in fear of judgement but Kyle kinda direct the discussion into the right discussion and make everyone talk. This is one of the best Jubilee spectrum video.
Jeeeezzzz take it easy
It’s a terrible idea to have a famous person on the show. He’s not on there to give his real opinions, he’s on there to boost his public image which is not why we watch this show
Like he’s not allowed to say anything outside the status quo he had to say what Gillette wanted him to say
TheUnown4
I can see that as a potential issue, but is he saying things that folks cannot resonate with? Is it something that people should not believe?
There are actual people, like myself, who believe exactly what he is saying. That does not make him incorrect or false for saying them. You don’t know him and you don’t know the scenario. Immediately jumping to a conclusion that this is a falsehood negates the connection that was made between those men.
this is gillette's best ad in a while
i got confidence to shave after this ad
Gillette shaving cream smells good.
@@christianjane8401 ok BRO
Honestly forgot
Went and bought some gillette right after. Remember boys gillette makes you a man
Damn, Jubilee added the "backstory clips" (Guy cooking when talking about himself) You guys really improved the editing!
Once you have a dual sponsorship the sponsors set the standards of the video. They want to make sure their image is held high
Oh and larger budget
Needed that
Agree. The b-roll footage held my interest even more!
he's like cooking f- pasta al pesto ahah
Rob seems like an amazing father ❤️ I grew up without a father and it would have been amazing to have someone like him in my life
Thanks! I hope my daughter feels that way her whole life :D
Erik running towards Kyle first of all the guys at the end to tackle/hug him after Kyle reassured him he's a man is the sweetest thing I've ever seen 😭
@DarthYuYevon why not? You don't know the person's preferences.
@DarthYuYevon you sound like an incel
@@samueljackson315 Yeah, that classic "I'm afraid of getting hurt so I'll say the negative thing before you can voice your opinion, that way I'm safe" mentality.
@Zomber WonderClan Fair enough. I guess we're all kind of tired of incels dehumanizing "fembots" so we sometimes let that frustration out on them, or people we assume belong to that group. But you're right, there's reason to be more compassionate. And maybe save the harsher reactions for when someone is being an absolute ass-hat instead.
@DarthYuYevon Once he builds up his self confidence he'll be just fine. A comedian/actor? If a guy can make a girl laugh, he's done it
I’ve got huge respect for all these guys for opening up like that, especially Erik. I doubt you’ll ever see this, but the way you opened up and expressed yourself is beyond what many men will ever be able to do. I’ve got huge respect for you.
Erik is actually my cousin and I appreciate your comment! Erik really is a really great guy and he loves to see comments like this
@@Gatssuuu liar.
@@davi5480 Nope. He's my actual cousin. Sorry to disappoint you.
@@Gatssuuu you're a Lucky weeb and i do believe you
AsianWeeb Prove it. What’s his butt smell like
"Sports are more masculine than arts"
Martial arts : *exists*
HAHAHA 😂
What I was thinking exactly because I do martial arts 🤣
If it's in the Olympics isn't it a sport?
I think of martial arts as a sport bc there is the UFC, boxing organizations, Olympic wrestling and kickboxing organizations
@@apllo4193 well chess is in the olympics so
You know you're definitely a male if you're playing Donkey in Shrek: The Musical.
Man*
Lol
@@ericvalles4661 does it make a difference
definitely
@@enpockelistek3855 Yes. “Male” is exclusionary off trans people in this context.
Ok, Rob in the red shirt is such a heartwarming, wholesome human, and so is the football player. I feel like what positive masculinity and femininity are coming down to are how to be a good human being. We should all try to stand up for our friends and for what's right, and to accept ourselves as we really are. Great conversation. And DAMN, Erik you are so strong. My heart broke for you when you told your story.
Thanks, Grace!
I honestly wish that men would be open about feelings an their problems. But I think we're getting there.
100%
Indeed
the first question hit hard. if anyone tells me bob ross is less of a man than anyone, that person is categorically wrong.
Especially since he used to be in the airforce
@@thetoaster765
*''now i'll shoot you two missiles because every missile needs a friend''*
@@myers5059 some happy little missiles
@@thetoaster765 is military manly now
@@thetoaster765 Congratulations, you destroyed the point
“we can share my dad if you want” AW that little pep talk the other guys gave him was so sweet
You should do “do all teenage girls think the same”
@Ismael Barrera generalizing and not true lmao
@@MotionMasterMike not all men , just most of the men in these comments who say women are like children and don’t speak up because they won’t hurt people’s feelings but once they do they accuse them of being hormonal . Other than that I love all men who don’t talk down on women and have a high ego . Any women or man who has a high ego can leave
Sat I haven’t seen one comment saying this
@@Yer4you mhm yh definitely ‘most’ men in this comment section
@@MotionMasterMike assuming something about them before it even happens, and you wonder why they say that
*do all men think the same?*
“Is kissing the homies gay?”
Im dead😭
Nah G, its homiesexual.
It depends.
You can kiss your homies, as a treat.
Mariam Ahmed do you ever give your homies a bj?
I adore Kyle. I don’t know who he is and I’ve never seen him play but I completely respect his opinions. Honestly what a good guy. He was raised right
I don’t agree, I respect him but there is no being “raised right” your right way of raising people might not be the way others think is rught
@@owenrogers3790 while that’s a valid point, you can generally tell when someone was raised better than someone else. I’m not saying there’s one way to raise someone, I’m just saying there are better ways than others
@@owenrogers3790 I disagree. Being raised right is to be respectful, kind, and decent to others. There is something called different personality traits and quirks, however if we can’t agree on what makes a decent human being .. I’m afraid to tell you that you weren’t raised right
@@owenrogers3790 raised right is just not being a douche bag. that's not complicated to understand so i already fear for your children
What do you mean “raised right”. He was raised fine but I personally think he has a wrong perception of masculinity and Jubilee just put him there as a way to boost leftism. Also, is he respectable because his opinions align with yours?
when Erik ran up to Kyle at the end and gave him a huge hug my heart went: 🥺🥰
Same!!
bromance 💕💕😭
The football player and the guy in the red sweater are absolute kings.
Kyle Long is what "manly men" should strive to be. I haven't heard of him before this but he's one great and wholesome human being.
He is an embarrassment like Terry Crews.
@@dagda3000 You seem very insecure. You might benefit from a bit of therapy or a support group of some sort. You're okay as you are, you don't need to prove you're "manlier" than anyone else.
dagda3000 His dad physically abused his mom and was also an alcoholic. His mom ends up divorcing and turning into a strict Christian. He doesn’t want people to end up like his dad who kept physically abusing his mom.
dagda3000 yikes
@@GoddoDoggo Has nothing to do with insecurity. I am just annoyed that this multi-national company Gillette is pushing this weak image of masculinity just because they want to sell beauty products also to men. We both know that the absolute majority of women do not want to be with soft woke men. This emasculation of men is probably worse for women than it is for men.
Are we not gonna talk about how adorable the ending was where he ran into kyles arms and everyone hugged 😔😔
Yes, i just commented on that? Im a little late but so so cute 😄
LOL spoiled me, but that’s some cute stuff
“ 6 Men Talk About Masculinity (feat. NFL Player Kyle Long)” sounds like a smoother title
bump
Yess that sounds way better. I was confused by the title at first.
Kayleigh Stevenson same!
Yeah, sounds like the NFL player is not a guy.
wax Ok soyboy
As an autistic man, locker room talk is the worst part of being a man, and it's the primary reason I was only friends with girls until I was in college and some of the guys had matured out of it
May I ask what that is? I've never heard of it before.
@@charbelalam2648 locker room talk is when males discuss sex and drugs. They talk about women they slept with and game plans to sleep with more. They also mentions drugs that they have tried and encourage others to do the same. Growing up christian, I always hated it as a kid and still hate it as an adult. I think the only pro is that men can vent their frustration about life and get practical solutions. The only problems is that the solutions are based on bad advice
@@mario125ww oh damn that is new to me. We never have these in my country, that stuff does not sound fun to me.
@@mario125ww I mean you just pigeon hold what locker room talk is. Which was exactly discussed in this video???? As the black man said he experienced lovker room talk as a safe space to talk about men related topics. Dsnt mean it always involves sex or objectifying people. Its just been hijacked.
"locker room talk is when males discuss sex and drugs. They talk about women they slept with and game plans to sleep with more."
I mean the fact you deevolve what it is to something like the sentence above is quite sad.
@@maxpowers4436 no I gave it context. If locker room talk was about men topics only, women wouldn't have a problem with it. So me mentioning the biggest controversy about it is warrant. Also at the end, I mention a pro of it which is what you mentioned: men issues
The sports guys parents raised him RIGHT
Sike he lets his women dominate him, they raised him real wrong.
Maxine Teitelbaum period.
Sticky Fingers no he sees his wife as an equal. Your extremely toxic
@@noahparker50 You're a Moron.
its very easy not to feel toxicity and hatred towards other people when you have looks, money, skill, and athletic ability where everyone likes you
"Being feminine makes you less of a man" would've been a great prompt
oml youre right
Having too many feminine characteristics kinda do make you less of a man, like a soyboy isn't very manly
@@dudemanbroguy5747 so you have to be "manly" to be a man?
@@joshuaenzo1282 yeah
@@joshuaenzo1282 hey a man can express himself how ever he wants but if he's a guy that wants other guy friends but lacks many masculine traits himself then hes gonna struggle to have those friends, it's hard to respect a beta male
I can see Sean questioning his opinion when he’s to the opposite of Kyle and it’s sad to see men wanting to be accepted to the masculine side they look up to. I’m glad Kyle is such a great figure to society
It’s good that we get some actual value out of some guy we pay ridiculous amounts of money too for running into other guys.
@@MaterDolorumOraProNobis "we pay" who's we?
Kyle is a weak beta male who would never make it on the wrestling mat. On the mat, you have to be an alpha. Stick to the soft world of football Kyle.
@@iramswrestlinghighlights1164 Ok.
Zachary they wouldn’t get paid if football fanatics didn’t glorify their every breath.
being a man isn't about towering over others. it's about going down to someone's level in their time of need and helping to lift them back up onto their feet. that's how I see it at least
I didn’t think I’d like the NFL guy but he’s so wholesome
Goes to show you you shouldn't judge.
it’s natural to make assumptions based on numerous and faulty accurate generalized stereotypes however acting upon those before that individual is allowed to express themselves is wrong. I think it’s fine that they noticed someone outside of the stereotype 🤷
I would disagree because if you take into account the amount of eyes he has on him and how peoples' views would impact his million dollar career, anyone would lie to save it. So he is most likely bot being 100% honest
@@Артем-т1к5ч that makes sense honestly
@@Артем-т1к5ч yeah but that's how people change and become better. They take into account others opinions and form their own from the information given. It hindsight, it doesn't really matter if he is completely honest because he is still setting a good example and seems like he's someone that would help others out.
"you have to put blood sweat and tears into something." Do you know how many times I have cried over the artwork, sweat from playing instruments, cutting my finger on needles, and paper? Art requires blood sweat and tears my guy.
Yup. Very true. And it doesn’t help that I’m extremely clumsy.
It takes a lot of time, precision, practice and a lot of hard work to be good at it, to be good at everything.
Cutting onions in the summer is art as well. costs ne blood sweat and tears
Yup
Nothing physical
At first, I was surprised to see some of the men strongly agree about "Locker room talk is part of being a man." But hearing CJ explain that it's more of a safe space for men to talk, makes a lot of sense. Really glad I get to hear different people's perspectives on topics I had already had a strong opinion about, it helps me be more open minded.
I don't even know what locker room talk exactly means. But if it means talking sex and fantasizing about women, it's ok. It's not a necessary part of being a man, but it can be a part.
I disagree with the man in the red shirt that it's objectifying women.
Don't understand why women would have that problem with locker room talk. Women talks about men to their friends worse than men do.
@Brad1156 As I said in my comment, I admit at first I didn't understand how locker room talk was part of being a man, but after hearing the explanation from CJ I understand it now. That's the point of videos from Jubilee, they put videos with topics that people would have a strong opinion about and have people in those topics explain their viewpoint. It's okay to have a certain opinion at the start of the video and change your mind at the end of it because you heard other people's explanations of the topic.
When I’m with the guys I say a lot of things I don’t really mean. We are all just joking around. We take things too far, but it is a safe place to do it. We might say offensive things, but we’re not actually going to act on them
@Brad1156 I think the whole thing is trying to set a better standard for people in general not just men.
Yes you're right men and women do talk about people they find attractive and talk to their friends about how they're essentially thirsty for that person and what they would want to do with that person and that PERFECTLY FINE.
Its when the comments become rapey or disgusting thats the real problem. And I understand the argument of "Well we're not acting on it. Just bantering and whatever" but why do you need to degrade people to have fun and joke? Its immature if anything and it can be applied to alot of issues not just locker room talk between men and women. It extends to people making 'casual racist' remarks for example that they precieve as harmless.
Again, nothing wrong with just gossiping and having fun. But it shouldnt be at the expense of someone else especially if you're aware it would make them uncomfortable should they ever find out.
I'll say this, at my school a few years ago, a few boys had a group chat on snapchat where every week they would select a girl from the class and in the chat they would rate her, have rape fantasys about her, even bet on who she would sleep with first. This was found out by the school and the girls and alot of girls felt extremely violated, disgusted and so on. Yet the defence was 'it was just locker room talk. We werent gonna do anything.' And I know this seems like Im just pointing out an incident in boys but girls do it too and its not okay either way.
Like the dude in the video said, if you heard something offensive, the 'locker room' type environment should be a space to talk about that behaviour, learn something. Encourage a better behaviour for yourself and friends rather than just allow degrading behaviour to continue cause its 'just jokes between guys'
I cried when he said he can't meet the expectations of masculinity that his Dad is putting on him 💔
Real men does not cry
@@josecarlosxyz you're the problem in this world.
Ohh. The dad in the red t-shirt gives away so good fatherly vibes✨✨.
HE’S SO PRECIOUS IM-
👏🏼Petition for him to be our dad👏🏼 🤣
He seems like an amazing dad! His daughter is so lucky honestly 😭
@@swtlikecndy4119 His daughter is actually my best friend!
@@lilyg9940 me when i lie
Damn, Kyle Long is so profound. I was not expecting him to be so wise.
My father taught me how NOT to be a man. He walked out on me and my mother. I now have 2 children and a wife of 5 years. I am the man of my life. He taught me how NOT to be a dad. I will always be in my children's lives. I have a beard, and take more care of it than my wife takes care of her hair. I lean on my wife in times of need and vice versa. I love these videos Jubilee. They start discussions, they inspire. Keep them coming.
What!!! Your wife has 5 years old!?!!?!!!?!?!
@@xxxbestplayer95xxx17 What?
@@xxxbestplayer95xxx17 ????
@@Chris.Rhodes It was either an attempt at being funny, or a misunderstanding of what "of 5 years" means.
there's nothing that makes a man less in my eyes than a guy who abandons his kids.
especially if after, they just flounder around like they're single.
*of course he meant they're together for 5 years.
I was a bit worried about this video making me upset, but this was actually quite wonderful discourse, and i think everyone involved learned something, and that’s what this is all about.
i’ll tell you why you can tell Kyle is a professional athlete. FIRST OFF THE LINE EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
Lmao im dead so true coming from a football player
True
Except 13:35
Gillette didn't pick him for no reason. 🤷♂️Guaranteed other football players have different views.
[C] if you think kyles views were unbalanced and biased then your own internal bias is making you misread this situation.
I’m really glad Kyle was there. Sean was doubting himself as a man because of what his father had told him “being a kitten” and I’m glad Kyle was there to say listen you are a man you deserve to be over here just like the rest of us. Not every guy fits into the big muscular deep voiced strong man. But that doesn’t make you any less of a man because you don’t fit into that specific category. There’s so many other qualities that make you a man and putting such high standards on yourself to fit into that box will only damage how you see yourself as you get older. Trust me you are seen and you are appreciated just like Kyle sees Sean as a man we view it the same way.
Shae __ you confused Erik with Sean correct?
Oh yeah yeah Yeah oh maybe I did haha
@@shae__6416 his dad was the head of an gang, obviously he's going to want his son to be ruthless, since his son wasn't the man was disappointed, now if the father was a florist and his son became a drug lord his father would have also been disappointed, probably would've said I wanted a dove but created a vulture, so he wouldn't have won regardless
David Medina that’s not an excuse. He had all that time as a father to change the way he was impacting his own son. He said that and meant it until he passed. Even the football player doesn’t feel the same way and he’s a football player. The whole entire point of this video was to talk about toxic masculinity. If all the men have the same view points and even a nfl football player can change it and make them see better his dad had the opportunity to do so as well. It was wrong and if you can’t admit it this video isn’t for you I guess.
@@shae__6416 as he said his dad was a criminal and the head of it
Erik has been through a lot man, and is so strong as a person and i can tell he wanted that hug and needed it. Loved this video.
Callmelucky thank you, we all go through struggles that make us stronger. Here’s a virtual hug for you, my friend 🤗
Erik Khamphouy 💪 *huge back*
All the men on this episode were outstanding! The way they opened up and were there for each other was beautiful and how they respected each others views. Wish them a lot of happiness and health.
Around 7 years ago I was working at target when Kyle long and some other bears came in with kids who who were underprivileged economically to get them Christmas presents. I come up to him and said can I help you find anything. In the most sincere helpful voice he asks the kid he was helping out "what would you like". He replied teenage mutant ninja turtles. I helped him find them.
This is in my opinion what Kyle displayed of kindness and compassion to that kid when I met him was it means to be a true man. The things he Is saying he seems(kindness and creativity) he acts about and isn't just saying. He has the ethos of what most celebrities and sports star and even man should drive towards.
Please do one, “Women who grew up without dads/ without male role models”
Mary Oary our women who grew up without moms
Growing up without a dad .....I think the effects on the women depend on the character of their dad and wether it's was because the dad died or left. How they left and so many factors.
i have met girls without a dad, and some of them had daddy issues and want an older guy as a bf, husband and SOMETIMES not always they take that as a replacement for a Male role on their life.
Or kids who grew up a single parent house hold
growing up without a dad is better then growing up with a terrible dad. Evey story wlill be really unique
I feel soo bad for Erik bc you can see how much he tried holding all his feelings in when we talked about his father
ok
We?
This was the first video where I felt all the participants had at least one good point. Everyone was respectable. Overall the most positive and my favorite Jubilee video
Kyle needs to become Erik’s mentor. That would be amazing.
(Side note: I know Erik irl and we haven’t talked in a while so I was pleasantly surprised to see him in this. He’s a super friendly, warm, thoughtful person. Sorry that living up to your dad’s expectations have been so hard dude. I totally relate. I’ve also struggle a lot with family expectations. Sometimes standards are just unreachable because being a person isn’t just about checking off things on a checklist.)
Whalium I haven’t seen you in a while, but I’m so glad that I met you. Your kind words speak to how great you are yourself and I’d love to catch up with you in a heartbeat! Kyle is amazing and I’d love to be mentored by him. Cheers to building our own paths and futures while living with family expectations 🥂
@@erikkhamphouy7723 this is so wholesome omg i wish you the best of luck in your comedic and acting career :)
"I think there's a leader within each one of us, I don't think it has to do with being man or a women" god that's good content
How much is true and how much is just feel good nonsense?
@@agathachris9722 it is 100% true.
@@haritasoujanya 100% hmmm. I believe otherwise.
@@haritasoujanya Not true at all actually. Some are born leaders, and some are born followers. Of course, that has nothing to do with gender, but it is fallacious to claim that everyone has equal traits when it comes to leadership. If you look at other species that work in groups, there is a clear distinction between leaders and followers. Humans are no different.
@@anakinskywalker8996 but don't you ever make decisions for yourself?don't you ever lead yourself to the right path without some other person leading you in some situations? we need not always lead a group to be a leader. we all have that lil leadership, atleast to guide ourselves.
Kyle long is seriously like the embodiment of good masculinity. Such a god damn good role model, every man should strive to be like him.
Nope but thanks.
@@redmatrixx why not?
I strive to be myself not another persons ideal Or dream
Na fam it almost like hes got somewhat of a beta mindset
Luke Torbert who tf uses beta or alpha as words lmao he can 100% beat your ass
The group hug was wonderful! I'm also glad, I think his name is Eric, was able to open up about his dad. I'm really happy that the others were so supportive of him and validated him.
Announcer: Men-
Kyle: *yeets himself to disagree*
Respect to Kyle Long. Most athletes are viewed as meat heads while most of them are pretty intelligent and have an open mind.
Every athlete I met was intelligent.
And CTE
Most of these guys came from prestigious schools. Even tho they got there because of their athletic ability. If you look up some players GPAs to the schools they went to you’d really be surprised.
I was so sad to hear the one guy talk about his dad who called him a kitten. Knowing that his dad has passed away and they can't mend that bridge... Ugh 😭
13:39 that hug 😭
@@3self yess! I was waiting for it. ❤
Sad thing is I doubt his dad would have wanted to mend it with such a “weak man” in his eyes
So much for being a tiger though. Verbal abuse and invalidation from parents is the worst. It sticks with you for your whole life.
From the context that I got I just heard envy in that statement, that the father couldn't cope with something that a kitten could handle. That the father would've liked to handle life more like how Erik have done. Idk I don't want to come across as insensitive but I think that his father looked up to him more than he'd ever know
“NFL guy” is an amazing human, literally. Such a good guy
In those episodes there is always someone who is annoying and have some specific opinion, but this video is sooo wholesome, I love everyone in it
You should watch the identity politics one, they are all intelligent and nice.
"I can't believe I'm such a tiger, and I have a son who turns out to be a kitten." Oh my God! That cut deep
If he was a tiger, his son wouldn't be a house cat. He's an ocelot, who likely married a lynx, and who is now compaining that their child didn't turn out to be a Siberian tiger. If his dead was a tiger, he could have made a tiger cub with a female tiger.
@@MrCmon113 I’m confused
Taxtro I mean he was the leader of a gang, thats pretty tiger behaviour
The only comment I had was: Uh dude, I think your dad is kind of a dick. U are a man.
I literally started crying when he said that ...
Sean sounds like he's in his 60s but looks like he's in his 40s.
Yet he's actually in his 30's.
Tbh
*SKIN CARE*
I literally thought that he was 50 until i saw that little snippet of his daily life and saw how young he looks.
This is the first discussion I have seen in a long time where they disagreed but openly shared and respected each others opinion. Sometimes it feels like we are losing raw honesty and respect for different opinions at the moment, so I found this video really refreshing.
I love the addition of the background bits on everyone, really gives us a chance to get to know them more and understand their choices in the video.
Also applaud you guys for getting someone who is (making an assumption here because he is an NFL player) idolized for his masculinity to come on and engage in some real talk.
I feel like there is a general assumption that the voices in these kinds of conversations are always coming from people who embrace more stereotypically feminine traits, so it really warms my heart that we have here an open conversation between some great guys who embrace all aspects of just being people.
"You're a tiger dude". Beautiful words. King culture wins again.
"Do all college/university employees think the same" would be really insightful.
Statements like:
-I think my department is more important than others
-I think some subjects are a waste of time and money
-The administration at my school cares about its employees
-I am satisfied with my wage and benefits
I think it would be really cool if it wasn't just professors, but also administrators, people who work in housing, maintenance and food service. Colleges are so complex and employ so many people, but people from other areas don't always interact. There's also the issues of for-profit vs state vs non-profit universities and how funding or lack thereof influences certain things.
damn some of those are good questions
Every single collage student knows pretty well that some subjects are in fact a waste of time.
Idk I feel most of topics and people involved in the spectrum are things everyone knows about and are Hard hitting topics. Not everyone understand or can even relate to your topic. Wouldn't get alot of revenue I guess
@@EpicTacoSenpai
You are probably right. After all, I came up with this topic because I am a college student.
I'm sure the prompt could be applied to k-12 schools (interviewing administrators, teachers, janitors, counselors) or to different working classes (do all blue-collar or white collar workers think the same).
Education and the workplace are much broader than just a university, and those are topics that I'd really love to see explored!
I think it would also be good to hear their opinions on the rising cost of tuition and how textbooks are a total scam.
love it. I like how I got to see that I'm not the only person who's trying to redefine what a man is. I honestly though a man like Kyle Long would be a bit more aggressive and conserved than he seems. But he's kind and passionate for other men as well. He isn't afraid to show care. Brotherhood.
Wow. I'm so happy Jubilee did an episode on this. I was definitely tearing up. Talking about masculinity is SO important to not only help men become better but for everyone to become better. Whether it's masculinity or femininity in my opinion it comes down to the core of what respect is. Respect for your fellow human being no matter their race, gender, class, identity, age etc. Thank you so much Jubilee for getting some amazing men so speak about this topic.
The guy in the red shirt is a fantastic human being.
Aya Afterlife agreed!
Yes because he yeild to his daughter
@Free Papa John how
Pagani Zonda your comment is more cringe than anything he even said; I can’t take anybody who uses the word “soyman” unironically seriously
Aya Afterlife he’s a simp
I love how they presented Kyle Long as his own person, not necessarily that he was NFL Hall of Famer Howie Long's son. When they asked about their father's I thought that would be brought up, but when it wasn't and it was kept to Kyle the amount of respect increased exponentially.
Wow, I didn't even know he was Howie's son until I read this.
Idk who howie is so okay
Well, I'm kinda glad they also said he was a NFL guy... Otherwise, I wouldn't have known who he is and that he is famous xD
That last scene is so wholesome. Every man needs that type of support and feeling that it's ok to open bout this type of stuff
Kyle is such an intelligent man.. I love how he was so well spoken and clear abt him ethics and decisions. I think he is truly a man.
@DarthYuYevon Sounds like you're describing yourself there bud.
@DarthYuYevon you’re such a shallow person.. not everything’s abt looks
DarthYuYevon
Nope I’d still agree with him.
DarthYuYevon your correct, buts that’s only because it’s not just the words that mean something, Kyle exemplifies a man is both physically and mentally very high level both of these things add to his words.
As a female, I really appreciate videos like this because I know how different society treats men when it comes to open conversations, masculinity, and emotions, and so this video really was great for me to see a glimpse into the male perspective! I love what you guys are doing with these videos and starting conversations many people are afraid to have, great work Jubilee!!
This is NOT the viewpoint on men. It’s a feminine viewpoint from guys who Gillette call men.
@@WomenofHighValue This is both offensive and wrong, your part of the reason men to to fit in because you care so much about being 'masculine' and take the piss out of others who aren't
Samno108 it takes more than opening your emotions up to be a man.
To be a man requires emotional stability, being strong, being able to do and perform, to compete and dominate, and provide safety and security for women. Being feminine does none of that. Kyle Long is being paid for saying what he says, and it is disturbing to say the least. Don’t worry, I’ll stop commenting on this video, because it is sickening what Gillette is doing to the world, and don’t want to promote them any more by engaging :)
However, I love people, I love women and I love families - and they are the entire reason why i write what I write.
I’ve got a long ways to go to help the world become a better place by understanding the true aspects of masculinity and femininity
@@WomenofHighValue lmao what
EtherCalm what what ? :)
This is probably the most well done spectrums I’ve ever seen
Kinsey McElhaney that Gillette money baby
Ikr
@@jonahhowell9893 🤑
Kinsey McElhaney, yeah it’s great. 😊
Dude in the blue shirt... The fact he doesn't live up to his father's expectations says far more about his answers than the answer he gave. The insight is crazy
Girls: He’s probably cheating
Guys: Hey boys what you guys do for your skin?
Boonie Bound The bro: Just soap and water bro
i would like to like this beautiful comment, but it has 969 likes, so it would be breaking the law if i were to like it
william hoegh it’s all good, you’re in the clear now
I have now proceeded to like the comment as it has a non-holy Number now
@@Omar-su3iii just wipe my face with the same towel I wiped my balls with
I would trust the guy in the red shirt to walk me home after a party
to hold my drink
@Fly Swatter NOOOO
@@darla8592 omg we have the same name 👄
@@darlapaniagua1852 you are the first person to have my same name
I woudnt trust you you seem weird
I feel so bad for Erik, he has the weight of the asian dad on his back and thats so hard
You can be your own person. He is a grown ass human. His dad is not an exuse at this point
@@jakubpuchalski2583 sod off mate
@@jakubpuchalski2583Fine, everyone has their own two feet. But the mentality you have around confidence and independence someone like Erik might not have reached. Maybe you can be your own person, if you knew how to. Erik might not have learned these things because no one had built him up and encouraged him. Yes these people are sometimes full of bad excuses and avoid responsibility as well as standing up for themselves maybe because they have no balls. To have the reason and bravery to stand up for yourself doesn’t come naturally to everybody. I think it’s kind of Ignorant to assume that people aren’t different and don’t work differently. And you probably feel so too I hope. So how do you think you’re helping? You’re totally assuming Eriks (and everyone else’s) situation. I think it sometimes works to say to someone to be their own person. I just feel like your comment was careless by not taking that into account.
Same here I felt for him
@@jakubpuchalski2583 he's not using his dad as an excuse, Erik was just saying that his dad was hard on him