New VIABLE Modern Slivers! Just how good are they? - MTG Modern Horizons Post-Launch June Update

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  • @noitsjustcody
    @noitsjustcody  5 років тому +1

    Spiteful Sliver - 0:26
    Unsettled Mariner - 1:28
    Changeling Outcast - 2:15
    First Sliver's Chosen - 2:30
    Cloudshredder Sliver - 2:57
    The First Sliver - 4:03
    Lavabelly Sliver - 4:56
    Dregscape Sliver - 6:11

    • @celticjordan1
      @celticjordan1 5 років тому

      So if I have 5 slivers on board with a spiteful sliver and my opponent plays anger of the gods on me. that's not a good slver card for modern huh? lol. seriously dude? without this support my modern slivers actually do really good. with this support they are twice as good now. and you do realize that dredge sliver can bring back the first sliver right?

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому +1

      Oh don't get me wrong, 15 free and direct damage to the opponent sounds wonderful. Every board wipe does not deal damage, though. Spiteful Sliver won't be main boarded, and for the sideboard you're better off with Frenetic Sliver as a board wipe dodge, as it works great against something like Supreme Verdict, too. Anger of the Gods and
      As for Dredge and The First Sliver...that never really crossed my mind much lol. That sounds absolutely wonderful, and if we replace CoCo with a few copies of The First Sliver I can see this working out surprisingly well now. The only issue is The First Sliver being played only on our turn, while CoCo is able to reliably give us 2 slivers at instant speed. It's a toss up, but you've definitely given The First Sliver more of a case.

    • @celticjordan1
      @celticjordan1 5 років тому +1

      yeah spiteful sliver is def a sideboard. im gona side him along with frenetic. 2 of each depending on the match up. if its burn or red/blue decks spiteful for sure. but others frenetic is perfect for.

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому

      Unfortunately found out Unearth wouldnt trigger Cascade tho. Damn.

    • @celticjordan1
      @celticjordan1 5 років тому

      oh well. its all good tho. having that unearth when your board is wiped and getting them all back and possibly swinging for game is pretty legit.

  • @limbos15
    @limbos15 5 років тому +1

    Ayyyeeee. Thanks for the shout out. I was gonna comment back on your comment but I didn't have much have to add to what you said. After I saw your comment though, I did look at dregscape and realized it itself has unearth. Which 90% of people seemed to be oblivious too. I think a 3-4 of it will be pretty nuts, maybe just as a 2 of, but the fact it's a 2/2 for 1B is so good on curve. Plus if you play lavabelly's, you can just pop one in from the yard and then play a coco for 6 total mana, triggering the lavabelly at least 4x4 on a board with just 1 dregscape in play, which is 16 dmg in it of itself. 8 mana total if you have to play dregscape from the yard or from ur hand. That's a gamechanger for late game stalls where you just need to squeeze in some face dmg and can't attack. I def agree that people overlooked dregscape over Cloudshredder, but I still have so many new thoughts popping up with different interactions with lavabelly.

    • @limbos15
      @limbos15 5 років тому

      I think I'm mathing wrong with how the lavabelly's stack and etb, but still, you're looking at potential 10-14 dmg blowouts if you get stalled out.

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому

      It's thanks to you I know Lavabelly stacks haha. The more I look at The First Sliver, Dregscape, and Lavabelly, I know they all have potential when combined. It's just a matter of combining them in a way to where we have other options when that doesn't work out. A boardstate isn't guaranteed to stay, which is why Dregscape is nice. And we'll want to build a board back up sometimes, which is why the First Sliver has such potential. Lavabelly relies on other slivers coming in WHILE it's on the field, which is where my hesitation still lies.

  • @getgudmundr
    @getgudmundr 5 років тому +1

    I saw a crazy sliver reanimator deck on mtggoldfish the other day. They were running morophon and the first sliver. It looked fun as hell

  • @PeschelTalks
    @PeschelTalks 5 років тому

    Also if your interested there is a group on FB called The Sliver Hive, where sliver fans talk and discuss deck ideas.

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому

      Yo thank you! I definitely needed this info

  • @thisusernamedoesntmatter
    @thisusernamedoesntmatter 5 років тому

    Looking forward to seeing your builds. I played slivers back in legions and never got back to it until now.

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому

      Thanks! With all of these new slivers now is a great time to get back into it, though!

  • @Zan219
    @Zan219 5 років тому

    How well do you think hollowhead sliver would work with dregscape sliver and the blaspemous sliver combo?
    Also in another scenario, adding morophon with ramp in a slivers deck. Wouldn't that let you play legendary slivers in your hand for free making the first sliver more viable.

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому

      I think it has potential, but it's easily shot down by creature removal. Without any lords, Slivers are a fairly fragile tribe, so bringing back any creatures from the grave wouldnt amount to a huge chunk of damage without an already present board. Plus Hollowhead costs 3 iirc, so that's a bit pricey.
      As for Morophon, again potential, but requires certain things to go correctly. Due to the land base, Slivers are already a less than consistent deck, and relying on Cascade even more so. However, someone at my LGS was talking to me about a very similar build that goes off sometimes, and runs cards like Ancestral Vision just for fun on the Cascade.
      Combo slivers can totally work, its just far less consistent than already existing combos lol

  • @PeschelTalks
    @PeschelTalks 5 років тому

    I smashed that Subscribe button dude, as it’s fantastic to find a sliver lover!!! Great video and I’m so excited to play slivers again.

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому

      Yo thanks for that sub! Always happy to convert another player haha

  • @SuperSickNerd
    @SuperSickNerd 5 років тому

    Very nice video , I'm just getting back into magic, so it's nice to see new cards!

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому

      Thanks!
      Every format is seeing a nice amount of new cards being introduced to it. Aside from Hogaak I'd say it's been largely some great growth!

  • @thanatos87ao
    @thanatos87ao 5 років тому

    @Purple Gaming: I saw that you cut CoCo in yours Post Horizons Decklist, may I ask you why?

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому

      I'm just brewing around rn, which is part of the reason I'm not making another slivers Decklist video lol. Cutting the CoCos isn't final, but it's on the table since I still have Vial on the mainboard.
      CoCo and Sedge are the only reasons the decks are inconsistent at all, so I'm trying to cut one of those and see how the deck plays out.
      Honestly though with the London mulligan I might just go back to having both.

  • @philipedwindeello9102
    @philipedwindeello9102 5 років тому +2

    May I request that you enable downloading of your videos so that people could watch them on the go. Please. :)

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому +2

      To be honest I have no idea how to toggle that feature on, but if I find out how I'll be sure to do so!

  • @ryangolden2280
    @ryangolden2280 5 років тому

    Great vid really needed some slivers support

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому

      And man did we get it!
      To be honest I'm starting to look at Unsettled Mariner as a 5/6th Diffusion Sliver for the sideboard, especially with how much removal I've seen in the last two days.

  • @getgudmundr
    @getgudmundr 5 років тому

    You have good sliver content thats enough for my sub lmao

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому +1

      Yo thanks my man! Always happy to get a new sub!

    • @getgudmundr
      @getgudmundr 5 років тому +1

      @@noitsjustcody no problemo homie

  • @양시-f2g
    @양시-f2g 5 років тому

    Cool video. Cool slivers.

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому

      Thank you! And I definitely think these slivers are pretty cool, too haha.

  • @nathanialblock8480
    @nathanialblock8480 5 років тому +1

    Morophon the boundless?

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому +1

      In Commander, absolutely. In Modern, probably not.
      It's costly, it's ability is niche, and we aren't running enough 5 color Slivers to take advantage of said ability.

  • @angrybadger121
    @angrybadger121 5 років тому

    I highly agree dregacape sliver. It gets so stupid and just dodges the removal that normally slows it down. I really like it alot.

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому

      I'd say less dodges removal and more postpones it for a turn lol, but right? I'm taking a Diffusion Sliver off the mainboard to fit a second Dregscape.

    • @angrybadger121
      @angrybadger121 5 років тому

      @@noitsjustcody People are sleeping on it hard. In testing I played against the new bridgevine and they tried to deck me... they milled a dregscape sliver. I had fun that game

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому

      How many are you running mainboard? I've only got 2 but have little experience since I'm only playing paper magic.

    • @angrybadger121
      @angrybadger121 5 років тому +1

      @@noitsjustcody Right now just 2. Three is just a bit too much, doesn't really work great in multiples.

  • @satjosh101
    @satjosh101 5 років тому

    Do you play edh? Maybe putting up a sliver deck? Love your videos

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому +1

      I do, and I play Slivers there as well! I would love to make a vid on it, but I'm much less fluent in edh than I am playing Modern Slivers.
      I plan to eventually, but I have a few other vids lined up before I get to commander.

  • @eichiboy95
    @eichiboy95 5 років тому

    Will we get an updated modern deck list when modern horizons comes out?

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому

      I don't want to give a definitive decklist until I have one I'm confident in. It took me years to come to what I thought was a finalized decklist, only for Modern Horizons to throw a huge curveball at me haha.
      Based on my last decklist, though, I see myself taking out Leeching Sliver, Sentinel, Blur, and one of the Necrotics. They'll be replaced with Cloudshredder and Dregscape, with that Necrotic and The First Sliver being thrown into the Sideboard somehow. I might also run a single First Sliver on the mainboard as a fun of, but again who knows lol.

    • @eichiboy95
      @eichiboy95 5 років тому

      It doesn’t need to be the end all be all but I’m new to modern and love slivers so getting an idea of what I can make would be great since I’m getting all the new slivers :) anything helps!

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому +1

      I'll have one together hopefully by tomorrow here for ya then. Just cracked all the packs from my Horizons box and I'm tryina edit this next video together haha.

    • @eichiboy95
      @eichiboy95 5 років тому

      Awesome man! I would greatly appreciate it!

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому +1

      Threw together something here!
      tappedout.net/mtg-decks/modern-slivers-post-horizons-1/
      My biggest concern is the drastic drop in 3 drops. While I always felt the 3 drop slivers were the most clunky cost wise, I rarely have reason to suspect I'll draw one now. This isn't too much an issue in a vacuum, but when you have to uptick your Aether vial BEFORE you draw you're left wondering if you'll hit Necrotic or not. Necrotic is an incredible card when your Aether Vial is sitting on 3, as you can flash in some land destruction or surprise an opponent by destroying their Planeswalker on their upkeep. Otherwise a Necrotic played on a main phase is screaming "LOOK AT MY PLAN."

  • @Jantonio2912
    @Jantonio2912 5 років тому +1

    I like your videos.

  • @satjosh101
    @satjosh101 5 років тому

    Was waiting on this

  • @limbos15
    @limbos15 5 років тому

    Hey purple. I just saw a video and article on SCG VS live. Ross Meriam plays slivers but he totally changes the entire deck construction that we both know. It seems so cool, rainbow lands, canopy lands and a Sliver Legion mainboard since the cut of CoCo. Seems super legit and fast.
    www.starcitygames.com/articles/38758_Testing-More-Modern-Horizons-.html

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому +1

      Hmmm, this is very interesting. Looks like he cut the Sedge Slivers, too, which I don't disagree with. Definitely makes the land base easier.
      I don't hate removing CoCo, either, as 5 mana dorks and vials should be sufficient. I'm just surprised he's running 4 Lavabelly and 4 Unsettled Mariners mainboard alongside 4 Diffusion Slivers. Like damn, I guess Slivers are never gonna get targeted lol.

    • @limbos15
      @limbos15 5 років тому

      @@noitsjustcody Yeap. When he played 2 Mariners, it was pretty gross. Also, go read mariner, it also protects your face. I totally overlooked that. So useful for burn and hand destruction.

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому +1

      Mariner is gonna make it onto my sideboard for sure, as it looks like itll help with storm, too.
      I'm still not a huuuge fan of lavabelly tho lol

    • @limbos15
      @limbos15 5 років тому

      @@noitsjustcody Yeah, I think I was wrong about it stacking the way I meant before. I think you have to play multiple slivers (if lavabelly is already in play)/lavabelly's in the same turn for it to work that way. Maybe even then I think it still just does 1 each time. :(

    • @noitsjustcody
      @noitsjustcody  5 років тому +1

      Two Lavabellies means two procs tho, so that's still nice in the long game.
      I'm really warming up to Mariner tho, mostly for being a 2/2. Having a board full of Diffusions, Cloudshredders, and Galeriders makes me want something a bit more beefy if I can't find a lord lol

  • @celticjordan1
    @celticjordan1 21 день тому +1

    Wizards so gd at under powering slivers. These new slivers are too cute. Here we are in modern today. Unplayable… 😒