You joke, but someone in my battalion used a bit of white tape on the stock and a Sharpie to ensure everyone knew that's what they named their M4 on an FTX. Cadets are fucking weird.
@Potato King Well... there was a guy in my year that called is HK g3 "Sakura". YE... He is a bloody weeaboo... But a good soldier weeaboo, and that is a rarity.
@@megrimlockmesmart.1200 well atleast he is good with being a soldier because naming guns after anime girls is awful but a g3 ? there is a special place in hell
This scene (and the other scenes where Private Pyle is finally showing promise, and Hartman is congratulating him) breaks my heart that Private Pyle had to lose it and break down!
@@nicholasramsey5331 It's entirely fictional, I realize, but I can't help wondering how different things might have turned out if Hartman had dropped the "Private Pyle" crap and started calling him "Private Lawrence", especially after "Pyle" had graduated boot camp and, according to Hartman himself, could consider every other Marine as his brother. In fact, I don't quite understand why Hartman seemed to take an instant dislike to him and burdened him with the "Private Pyle" nickname with no knowledge, other than his being overweight, of what kind of person he was or how successful he'd be in training.
@terry waller It wasn't even within the first couple of days, though. It was within the first 10-15 minutes. And I would think a DI would wait a little while, a few days anyway, to see who actually deserved to be made an example of. It just never seemed quite right to me to label someone a screwup as quickly as Hartman did "Pyle".
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@@Arbeedubya Hartman had done this thousands of times. He knew what he was looking at when he first laid eyes on Pyle. A weak, dopey, foggy headed loser. The scary thing is he merely shrugged his shoulders and essentially said 'It's okay. We'll just smash his brain to pieces and put him back together the way WE want him to be." And it worked. Hey, he's a total psycho, but that's what Uncle Sam wants to set loose on the commies setting children on fire, so it all equals out.
Notice Private Pyle's face after this interaction. You'd think given this VERY high praise from Sgt Hartman he'd at least show something even if he wasn't meant to like during the intro when he's smiling. Instead, nothing. He'd already made up his mind
The funny thing is, if he didn't blow his own brains out, Pyle would have been a walking TANK of a marine! Would have been interesting to see him and Animal Mother going at it with each other to see who was the meanest killer.
an interesting theory is that Animal Mother IS Pyle, and that Kubrick used this character as a metaphor for the transformation from civilian to soldier. like a phoenix, rising from the ashes, the old person is dead and emerges anew, a Marine.
@@paladinheadquarters7776 No. The book makes it clear that Pyle died at his own hand. In fact in the book Pyle had gone insane and behaved as if his issued rifle had become a living, sentient being, essentially becoming his woman. He killed Gunnery Sergeant Hartman out of a supposed jealousy. "Did you see how he leered at you?" He said to his rifle after the deed. And then as he turned the rifle on himself he began whimpering and pleading with his rifle as if it were moving under it's own volition, that it was his rifle's, his woman's, will that he was to die.
Private pyle would have won hands down against animal mother.. animal was a spray and pray kind of killer. As Pyle would have been an accurate killing machine..
No. He did not. Military training breaks you and puts you back together again. Pyle was put together in a way that there were bullets between his gears. With all the consequences this had. Poor bastard.
"Private Pyle, you are definitely born again hard. Hell, I may even allow you to serve as a rifleman in my beloved corps." That's about as close to a compliment from Hartman as you'll ever get.
Yeah spend your days getting your ass kicked, lack of sleep, low pay, constant threat of redundancy (in the UK) only to retire at age 40 with no job prospects, a wife that cheated on you while you were away for six months and a feeling of not belonging anymore. That's what put me off.
You're not taking into account benefits. We get paid better then police forces. Once you get to Staff Sergeant you start making pretty decent money. Not to mention deployments where you get a fuck ton of extra pay and you're not spending any of it. As for the last bit, I don't really care about politics, I'll go wherever they want me to go; Makes no difference to me.
By the end of Pyle's training, you could tell he improved vastly and would've been amazing friends with the marines that fought over in Saigon. It's a shame he blew his brains out though.
I went through Marine boot on Parris Island in '74, there are many things in this movie that are spot on (the whole Joker mentoring Pyle is however complete B.S., that ain't happening in Marine boot). We had one of the best recruits in my platoon (he won his first pugil stick fight and showed some other good leadership traits and was made a fire team leader and I had been watching him and expected the DI's to give him a shot at squad leader) crack and jump from our third story barracks down to the hard deck. We all heard the ambulances come and go but our DI's never said a peep about it. We just went on with our training day like nothing had happened, we never did hear if he lived or died. The reason I wrote this post was how Pyle got some nice praise from the DI. I was on the Island for 13 weeks 3 days and the only positive words I had spoken to me was after Rifle Range Qual day; I had consistently been shooting well and shot Expert on pre qual day and on Qual day I had high score in our entire Series. My Sr. DI handed me my card and said "You had high score in the Series, Nice shootin".
@@spaghetti9845 Yeah Parris Island was a completely different animal in the Vietnam era then the nineties for sure. There was zero help, you had all you could handle to worry about yourself. I have talked to many Marine vets that went thru P.I. in the mid to late 90's. They were shocked at some of the stories I told. If you have any interest I can tell a few.
The bitter irony is the jelly donut likely showed him what not to do the next time he tried smuggling stuff into the barracks, thus allowing him to pocket ammo and keep his rifle without anyone knowing.
@@tripprawlings9284 true that. Certain people at the congress who dont know anything about guns just legislate them based on nothing rational. They think that all black rifles are some assault rifle (made up term) high capacity killing machines because they are so "scary".
0:27 - "I’m proud of you." He doesn't say it. There's no room for softness… not in the Corps. No place for weakness. Only the hard and strong may call themselves Marines. Only the hard. Only the strong.
Small detail: once Pyle ends all his answers and Gunny Hartman tells Pyle he is born again hard, notice the recruits in the background. They turn around, and start marching the other way. A turning point, both in Hartman's view of Pyle, and Pyle's transformation into one hell of a badass. Coincidence? This is Kubrick we're talking about here ladies and gents. Born Again Hard.
@@jotacep I understand. The drill movement performed in the scene is whats called "To the rear" the troop movement will do a full 180 and march the other direction. But I do like that, didn't know thats what the director was going for.
Reshooting this scene over and over again while they were marching in the background and having that completely far-fetched, honestly pretty ridiculous, detail to match up for no apparent reason seems a bit implausible. It seems that every numbskull starts noticing details in Kubrick's movies as soon as they learn that he was obsessed with details, and ironically often bypass the *intended* details and misinterpret the whole scene. Kubrick would gouge out your eyeballs and........
Ole’ Private Lawrence... A stirring illustration of how, sometimes, even a successful transformation into a Marine is just too heavy of a loss of self for the person.
@@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 two things. 1. It’s a joke. No ones holding you at gunpoint telling you to be offended 2. Even if he was joking, it’s true. Someone with mental issues would definitely say something like that in the military nowadays
This is my favorite scene of the film. We'd watched Pyle get ground up for an hour at this point, but here we see him doing well and earning some respect from his DI.
There is a theory that him snapping was Joker nightmare while in fact HE IS the animal mother. I dont think its true but still something to think about
Private Pyle, born again harder than expected, was ready to complete the training on his own terms, mentally rebuffing the compliment by the DI. Charlene was his muse, and she had the last word in his life and when it would end, not anything or anybody else.
HARTMAN: How many counts in that movement you have just executed? PYLE: Sir, four counts, Sir. HARTMAN: What is the idea of looking down in the chamber? PYLE: Sir, that is the guarantee that the Private is not giving the inspecting officer a loaded weapon, Sir. HARTMAN: What is your 5th general order? PYLE: Sir, the Private's 5th general order is to quit my post only when properly relieved, Sir. HARTMAN: What is this weapon's name, Private Pyle? PYLE: Sir, the Private's weapon's name is Charlene, Sir. HARTMAN: Private Pyle, you are definitely born again hard. Hell, I may even allow you to serve as a riflemen in my beloved Corps. PYLE: Sir, yes, Sir.
Having went through bootcamp at Parris Island in 1984, you had to be mentally strong. Being in good physical condition helped but i saw guys crumble who weren’t strong in mind. Pyle was a pure example of being broken. Boot camp is an initiation and you will be tested to see if you will be accepted as a member.
Pyle was broken because of the blanket party. In todays military he would never be allowed to serve. He clearly was slow and mentally challenged. I went through in 1998. Very different than how it is now.
@spaghetti9845 isn't that hazing to beat a fellow recruit? Don't know how criminal proceedings could work if a fellow recruit was beaten like that as since Ira a federal facility, that's a federal offense.
I believe that most people are missing the point of this scene entirely. They think that Private Pyle has finally overcome his insecurities and flaws, and become competent at his training and showing it big time here. However, I think that what the director (who also co-wrote the script), and thus the actor, is subtly showing here is Pyle descending into a mental breakdown. Pyle not showing any emotion is not because he has become competent at his marine training. It's because he's mentally breaking down. He is becoming an empty soulless husk. He may be repeating what he has been taught like a robot, but he's not doing it because he wants to become a good marine. He's doing it because he's empty inside and is mostly acting like a mindless robot. If you look at the actor's face closely, I believe he's trying to convey that very thing. He does not show satisfaction of having accomplished something perfectly. The reason why he doesn't show any satisfaction or emotion is not because he has become a well-trained soldier. It's because he is an empty husk on the brink of a complete mental breakdown. You can especially see it at the very end of the clip. He looks almost depressed, rather than ecstatic on the inside.
I can’t say I relate too much because my basic training history came from the army. However I do recall a turning point in my own experience was when my drill instructor pulled me and my battle buddy aside and explained to me that the army didn’t want robots, they wanted us to be better versions of ourselves. To this day I believe he saved us from private Pyle’s fate…
@@JohnnyC01 I think being a psycho was okay, he just needed to focus his killing craves on vietnamese people. If joker stomped his ass and took the rifle before he loaded it, this would be a different story.
Private pile was almost everybody back in the 20th century. Nobody flipped out like Hollywood portrays. Good times though. Trash bags got recycled and at times booted.
I would've liked it a lot better. The movie ends with Gunnery Sergeant Hartman looking at a Stars and Stripes article written by Sergeant Joker on Staff Sergeant Pyle winning a CMH and Hartman smiling and his chest swelling with pride for Joker and Pyle.
Its a shame what becomes of Pyle. He was a bit of a tool, but I have a feeling from his introduction scene that he is a classic case of not really knowing what he was getting into, much like Charlie Sheen's character in Platoon. Not everyone is cut out for the Military role, and for Pyle it really got into his head.
pyle was already broken inside during this scene. To become into this they had to destroy any human or ethical value he possesed. From a moral standpoint he was a complete mess, despite being a disciplined soldier.
Pyle and Mother would have been a force to be reckoned with for sure. Of that there is no doubt. Hartman really gave him a compliment.. Youre born again hard. Nuff said
"How many counts in that movement you just executed?" "Sir four counts, sir!" What's the idea looking down in the chamber?" "Sir, that is the garantee that the private is not giving the inspecting officer a loaded weapon, sir!" "What's your fifth general order?" "Sir the private's fifth general order is to quit my post only when properly relieved, sir" "What's this weapons name, Private Pyle?" "Sir the private's weapons name is Charlene, sir!" "Private Pyle, you are definitely born again hard. Hell, I may even allow you to serve as a rifleman in my beloved CORPS" "Sir yes sir!"
It's sad and ironic. Hartman was actually praising Pyle and almost accepting him as a marine rifleman when the former broke. If Hartman just held on a bit longer mentally, he would had been a true exemplary marine.
Anyone who says Hartman never complemented Pyle wasn't paying attention. He complemented him here and on the shooting range for his marksmanship skills.
It sounds messed up, But I think the Gunny's proudest moment of Pyle is when he turned his gun to him and fired. I mean, it sounds contradictory, but he did want them to become killers. And in Pyle's moment, he did not hesitate. That means in combat, pyle would not have hesitated, and had pyle put his rifle down Hartman would have scorned him some more. But no, in this way, he became the very killer Hartman wanted other marines to be. Then he pussied out and shot him self and was immediately transported to the Hell Barracks where the Gunny was waiting with excitement.
So private Pyle was fine getting everyone in trouble, but when he got his ass soaped he got pissed off and turned into Satan. No donuts at night after that.
from the very beginning of the movie, in the first role call scene, it's implied Pyle had a mental condition (I bet some varient of altism), so he shouldn't even be there.
This was Private Pyle's Finest Hour
It’s just another reason why I believe Pyle killing Hartman and himself was just a dream and that he’s Animal Mother
Darkest hour
Megadeth intensifies
He was in psychosis...
Donald Trump's a draft dodger.
Pyle was that close to joining the marines.
Tre Kronor I mean he graduated, so he did die a Marine!
He graduated, however he snapped.
Zach Lang Except that Marines are not allowed to die without permission.
The Marines don't die they go to hell and regroup...
He joined law and order instead lol
“SIR The privates weapons name is Belle Delphine SIR!” - 2021 FMJ
You joke, but someone in my battalion used a bit of white tape on the stock and a Sharpie to ensure everyone knew that's what they named their M4 on an FTX.
Cadets are fucking weird.
@Potato King Well... there was a guy in my year that called is HK g3 "Sakura". YE... He is a bloody weeaboo... But a good soldier weeaboo, and that is a rarity.
@@megrimlockmesmart.1200 well atleast he is good with being a soldier because naming guns after anime girls is awful but a g3 ? there is a special place in hell
SIR the private's weapon's name is Kasumi chan - 2042 FMJ
"SIR the private's weapon's name is Hatsune Miku, SIR!"
Hartman is ecstatic but cannot show it. Marines don't smile. Hartman's words are the Marine equivalent to "I'm so proud of you!!"
This scene (and the other scenes where Private Pyle is finally showing promise, and Hartman is congratulating him) breaks my heart that Private Pyle had to lose it and break down!
@@nicholasramsey5331 It's entirely fictional, I realize, but I can't help wondering how different things might have turned out if Hartman had dropped the "Private Pyle" crap and started calling him "Private Lawrence", especially after "Pyle" had graduated boot camp and, according to Hartman himself, could consider every other Marine as his brother. In fact, I don't quite understand why Hartman seemed to take an instant dislike to him and burdened him with the "Private Pyle" nickname with no knowledge, other than his being overweight, of what kind of person he was or how successful he'd be in training.
@terry waller It wasn't even within the first couple of days, though. It was within the first 10-15 minutes. And I would think a DI would wait a little while, a few days anyway, to see who actually deserved to be made an example of. It just never seemed quite right to me to label someone a screwup as quickly as Hartman did "Pyle".
@@Arbeedubya Hartman had done this thousands of times. He knew what he was looking at when he first laid eyes on Pyle. A weak, dopey, foggy headed loser. The scary thing is he merely shrugged his shoulders and essentially said 'It's okay. We'll just smash his brain to pieces and put him back together the way WE want him to be." And it worked. Hey, he's a total psycho, but that's what Uncle Sam wants to set loose on the commies setting children on fire, so it all equals out.
@ we burned a lot of children in there ourselves so we're no better than the commies
7.62 millimeter. Full.... Metal... Jacket...
PYLE! GET YOUR FAT ASS OUT OF MY COMMENT SECTION!
Leonard...if Hartman catches us in here...we'll both be in a world of shit...
jdolaktv he already is in one.
Private Pyle you have no subscribers, makes sense.
Ok he has subs now.
@@jdolaktv I AM... IN A WORLD... OF SHIT
Somewhere in an alternate universe, Private Pyle didn't blow his brains out, and became the Kingpin of crime
Or the greatest killing machine the US marines ever made
in an alternate universe, Private Pyle turned out to be named Private Robert Goren, who then switched from the Marines to New York Police Department
When i was a boy...
hm25332 Dun Dun!
@@ynog0978 he became another Kurtz
That little hop Ermey does at 0:28 is fantastically subtle physical acting. He can't say it, but he's absolutely impressed with how far he's come.
He’s does it again very slightly at 0:32 he was definitely proud of Pyle knowing that he’s finally becoming a true marine/a killer
Exactly. Hartman saying that Pyle could even be a rifleman is a huge compliment, considering the esteem in which the 0311 is held in the Marines.
Almost a salute.
Notice Private Pyle's face after this interaction. You'd think given this VERY high praise from Sgt Hartman he'd at least show something even if he wasn't meant to like during the intro when he's smiling. Instead, nothing. He'd already made up his mind
Well getting the shit choked out of you for grinning probably went a long way toward not showing it.
That's called bearing....
@@bwrpwr well he choked himself with hartman's hand lol
He already made up his mind... Erase the drill intructor then erase himself off the face of this planet
Whoah there soldier, It's Gunnery Sgt (Gysgt) or Gunny. Marines don't call their SNCOs "Sgt"
"Sir! The Private's weapons name is Lady Dimitrescu, Sir! - Full Metal Jacket 2021
Drill Instructors want their recruits to succeed.
Really? Didn’t know that thanks for sharing
@@trippinatormachine yea they do its more just trying to toughen you up it's all mental
@@Luxbestupid i was being sarcastic but again thanks for sharing
@@trippinatormachine you was being sarcastic?
@Ministry of Mystics So to succeed?
The funny thing is, if he didn't blow his own brains out, Pyle would have been a walking TANK of a marine!
Would have been interesting to see him and Animal Mother going at it with each other to see who was the meanest killer.
an interesting theory is that Animal Mother IS Pyle, and that Kubrick used this character as a metaphor for the transformation from civilian to soldier. like a phoenix, rising from the ashes, the old person is dead and emerges anew, a Marine.
Fartrell Cluggins true, but does the book say it?
no idea, i cant read @@paladinheadquarters7776
@@paladinheadquarters7776 No. The book makes it clear that Pyle died at his own hand. In fact in the book Pyle had gone insane and behaved as if his issued rifle had become a living, sentient being, essentially becoming his woman. He killed Gunnery Sergeant Hartman out of a supposed jealousy.
"Did you see how he leered at you?" He said to his rifle after the deed.
And then as he turned the rifle on himself he began whimpering and pleading with his rifle as if it were moving under it's own volition, that it was his rifle's, his woman's, will that he was to die.
Private pyle would have won hands down against animal mother.. animal was a spray and pray kind of killer. As Pyle would have been an accurate killing machine..
Pyle was pretty squared away and had his shit together right here
No. He did not. Military training breaks you and puts you back together again. Pyle was put together in a way that there were bullets between his gears. With all the consequences this had. Poor bastard.
The factory (read: his mental state) was up and running, but was making defective product.
No he was already reaching breaking point.
@@Stoneman180190 And in reality, that's total BS.
Had his shit together but not quite shitting Tiffany cufflinks as was the drill sargeant's guidance
"Private Pyle, you are definitely born again hard. Hell, I may even allow you to serve as a rifleman in my beloved corps."
That's about as close to a compliment from Hartman as you'll ever get.
"Private Joker is silly and ignorant but he's got guts, and guts is enough."
Also at the shooting range. “Outstanding, Private Pyle! I think we’ve finally found something you do well!”
The closest I saw was the senior drill sergeant telling the sergeant major that he genuinely thought our PG would make a fine lieutenant.
Also on the shooting range and when he promoted Joker to squad leader
@@26prospector PG?
Being called "born again hard" by someone like Hartman is a hell of a complement
Man R. Lee Ermy was a badass.
RIP.
Dafuq is this "was" stuff, he's in heaven making God do push ups
RIP Gunny
@@hailtothevic Fuck you, man.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You made my year!!
He(Lee Emery) was a Marine all his life, as a cadet and gunnery drill sergeant
I swear, this movie is what scared me about the idea of joining the military.
Yeah spend your days getting your ass kicked, lack of sleep, low pay, constant threat of redundancy (in the UK) only to retire at age 40 with no job prospects, a wife that cheated on you while you were away for six months and a feeling of not belonging anymore. That's what put me off.
Did the opposite to me... But it isn't for everyone
This is one of the movies that made me join.
It's an anti-war movie. No surprise there.
You're not taking into account benefits. We get paid better then police forces. Once you get to Staff Sergeant you start making pretty decent money. Not to mention deployments where you get a fuck ton of extra pay and you're not spending any of it.
As for the last bit, I don't really care about politics, I'll go wherever they want me to go; Makes no difference to me.
This was filmed on the airfield at Bassingbourn Barracks near Cambridge. I was a recruit there during filming.
How old are you now sir?
@@medalgearsalad1419 mid fifties. I was at Depot in 1986.
@@jimmyjohnson7027 I hope you are doing well these days. I've never served but respect those who did.
@@jimmyjohnson7027 Oh! Wasn’t that the airbase that Memphis Belle took off from?
@@liamweaver2944 it certainly was.
Hartman got a taste of what Charlene can do in the Latrine!
By the end of Pyle's training, you could tell he improved vastly and would've been amazing friends with the marines that fought over in Saigon. It's a shame he blew his brains out though.
Happens a lot, I’ve been in the Army for one year and a week and I’ve already had 3 people kill themselves on post. Shits crazy
Bug 91 care to elaborate?
Not a whole lotta fighting in Saigon
@@bug9193 why did you have them kill themselves ?
Of course, Vietnam, being what it was, he probably would have had his brains blown out one way or another...!
I went through Marine boot on Parris Island in '74, there are many things in this movie that are spot on (the whole Joker mentoring Pyle is however complete B.S., that ain't happening in Marine boot). We had one of the best recruits in my platoon (he won his first pugil stick fight and showed some other good leadership traits and was made a fire team leader and I had been watching him and expected the DI's to give him a shot at squad leader) crack and jump from our third story barracks down to the hard deck. We all heard the ambulances come and go but our DI's never said a peep about it. We just went on with our training day like nothing had happened, we never did hear if he lived or died. The reason I wrote this post was how Pyle got some nice praise from the DI. I was on the Island for 13 weeks 3 days and the only positive words I had spoken to me was after Rifle Range Qual day; I had consistently been shooting well and shot Expert on pre qual day and on Qual day I had high score in our entire Series. My Sr. DI handed me my card and said "You had high score in the Series, Nice shootin".
Went through in 98. It is encouraged to help the weaker guy and work as a team, thought not to the level joker did.
@@spaghetti9845 Yeah Parris Island was a completely different animal in the Vietnam era then the nineties for sure. There was zero help, you had all you could handle to worry about yourself. I have talked to many Marine vets that went thru P.I. in the mid to late 90's. They were shocked at some of the stories I told. If you have any interest I can tell a few.
He would have joined Hartman's beloved corps if not for that god damn Jelly Donut
And he would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for that meddling unlocked foot locker!!
Hartmann found his weaknesses.
And the blanket party that followed, even Joker who was supposed to mentor him got a few soap in the sock licks in on him.
The bitter irony is the jelly donut likely showed him what not to do the next time he tried smuggling stuff into the barracks, thus allowing him to pocket ammo and keep his rifle without anyone knowing.
@@draconusfrigidus Holy shit, I never thought about that.
Little did Hartman know that Pyle was slowly losing his mind through boot camp
Imagine this version of Pyle in Vietnam... He would have been a frightening killing machine.
I’m a United States Marine. My weapon was Black Betty.
.....bam de lam.
Black Weapons Matter.
What
@@tripprawlings9284 true that. Certain people at the congress who dont know anything about guns just legislate them based on nothing rational. They think that all black rifles are some assault rifle (made up term) high capacity killing machines because they are so "scary".
@Joey Wheeler that's more likely the case, but their rhetoric is stupid
0:27 - "I’m proud of you." He doesn't say it. There's no room for softness… not in the Corps. No place for weakness. Only the hard and strong may call themselves Marines. Only the hard. Only the strong.
I don't know how expressing pride in a junior enlisted is soft.
I was parodying a quote from a movie. ;)
@@AidanFarren-Hart fair enough, my fault for not catching the reference
"marines! what is your profession?"
"to do whatever you tell me to do drill sergeant"
Well said
Small detail: once Pyle ends all his answers and Gunny Hartman tells Pyle he is born again hard, notice the recruits in the background. They turn around, and start marching the other way. A turning point, both in Hartman's view of Pyle, and Pyle's transformation into one hell of a badass. Coincidence? This is Kubrick we're talking about here ladies and gents. Born Again Hard.
Is that a real thing in the film, or are you familiar with the drill command "TO THE REAR.... HARCH"
@@thenameisgrindr5519 not familiar with military commands. But very familiar with Kubrick's obsession with detail, and their meanings.
@@jotacep I understand. The drill movement performed in the scene is whats called "To the rear" the troop movement will do a full 180 and march the other direction. But I do like that, didn't know thats what the director was going for.
Reshooting this scene over and over again while they were marching in the background and having that completely far-fetched, honestly pretty ridiculous, detail to match up for no apparent reason seems a bit implausible. It seems that every numbskull starts noticing details in Kubrick's movies as soon as they learn that he was obsessed with details, and ironically often bypass the *intended* details and misinterpret the whole scene. Kubrick would gouge out your eyeballs and........
@@Gonken88 well.. that's just like, your opinion, man.
Ole’ Private Lawrence... A stirring illustration of how, sometimes, even a successful transformation into a Marine is just too heavy of a loss of self for the person.
0:28 that manly movement
I was actually proud of Pyle for doing well with the Gunnys sharp reflexed questions. I wanted him to succeed
“Sir, the private’s weapon identifies as non-binary gender neutral and goes by zur, Sir.” - Full Metal Jacket 2021
So true
😂😂😋😝
Okay slow down there dipshits, just...slow the hell down.
@@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 two things.
1. It’s a joke. No ones holding you at gunpoint telling you to be offended
2. Even if he was joking, it’s true. Someone with mental issues would definitely say something like that in the military nowadays
Hartman would have slapped the shit out of him for that comment
This is my favorite scene of the film. We'd watched Pyle get ground up for an hour at this point, but here we see him doing well and earning some respect from his DI.
Imagine if he didn't kill himself and used that rage he bottled up against the enemy instead of Hartman.
This is what the US military wants.
There is a theory that him snapping was Joker nightmare while in fact HE IS the animal mother. I dont think its true but still something to think about
@Robo Redneck I guess. Go to the warzone and try not to lose weight.
Animal Mother was the character in the movie that showed you what Pyle would have become
@@stefciok
Word. My Uncle (God rest him) came back from Vietnam skin and bones. No hair.
Hartman didn’t give up on Pyle. He even said as much. He was tough, but he was fair. If only it didn’t end the way it did.
Anyone joining the marines shud have to watch this movie! Brings me back to PI in 84 every time I watch this movie,semper fi!
Private Pyle, born again harder than expected, was ready to complete the training on his own terms, mentally rebuffing the compliment by the DI. Charlene was his muse, and she had the last word in his life and when it would end, not anything or anybody else.
At this moment he should have called him pvt Lawrence. 😮
The soldiers from Hartmans boot camp are definitely killing machines
soldiers are us army, marines are just called marines.
@@tristanharmon2218 uuuuggggghhhhhhhh, shut uuuuuuup. who cares??? what he said Isn't affected at all by your correction
Deathwhistle it still was an error
@@Octopetala
Many people care.
You be silent.
@@Octopetala i care
The happy ending.
"Private Pyle, you are truly born again hard..,you can join my beloved Marine Corps"
HARTMAN: How many counts in that movement you have just executed?
PYLE: Sir, four counts, Sir.
HARTMAN: What is the idea of looking down in the chamber?
PYLE: Sir, that is the guarantee that the Private is not giving the inspecting officer a loaded weapon, Sir.
HARTMAN: What is your 5th general order?
PYLE: Sir, the Private's 5th general order is to quit my post only when properly relieved, Sir.
HARTMAN: What is this weapon's name, Private Pyle?
PYLE: Sir, the Private's weapon's name is Charlene, Sir.
HARTMAN: Private Pyle, you are definitely born again hard. Hell, I may even allow you to serve as a riflemen in my beloved Corps.
PYLE: Sir, yes, Sir.
I feel like if Hartmann had just called him Private Lawrence a little bit more he would have lived lmao.
the seldom seen but highly regarded DI compliment
Having went through bootcamp at Parris Island in 1984, you had to be mentally strong. Being in good physical condition helped but i saw guys crumble who weren’t strong in mind. Pyle was a pure example of being broken. Boot camp is an initiation and you will be tested to see if you will be accepted as a member.
Pyle was broken because of the blanket party. In todays military he would never be allowed to serve. He clearly was slow and mentally challenged. I went through in 1998. Very different than how it is now.
Having gone - not having went.
@spaghetti9845 isn't that hazing to beat a fellow recruit? Don't know how criminal proceedings could work if a fellow recruit was beaten like that as since Ira a federal facility, that's a federal offense.
Private Pyle found his balls in that moment. Hartman was proud!!
That’s a hell of a compliment from a drill instructor
I believe that most people are missing the point of this scene entirely. They think that Private Pyle has finally overcome his insecurities and flaws, and become competent at his training and showing it big time here.
However, I think that what the director (who also co-wrote the script), and thus the actor, is subtly showing here is Pyle descending into a mental breakdown. Pyle not showing any emotion is not because he has become competent at his marine training. It's because he's mentally breaking down. He is becoming an empty soulless husk. He may be repeating what he has been taught like a robot, but he's not doing it because he wants to become a good marine. He's doing it because he's empty inside and is mostly acting like a mindless robot.
If you look at the actor's face closely, I believe he's trying to convey that very thing. He does not show satisfaction of having accomplished something perfectly. The reason why he doesn't show any satisfaction or emotion is not because he has become a well-trained soldier. It's because he is an empty husk on the brink of a complete mental breakdown. You can especially see it at the very end of the clip. He looks almost depressed, rather than ecstatic on the inside.
Gunny you’re missed🙏❤️
Born again a wee bit too hard.
St John the Evangelist may agree! #JohnChapter3
I can’t say I relate too much because my basic training history came from the army. However I do recall a turning point in my own experience was when my drill instructor pulled me and my battle buddy aside and explained to me that the army didn’t want robots, they wanted us to be better versions of ourselves. To this day I believe he saved us from private Pyle’s fate…
They taught him to be a killer
And succeded
"I am hard but I am fair"
"There is no racial bigotry here!"
*says racist shit to Snowflake 10 seconds later*
darthkahn45 Snowball. Pvt. Snowball.
@@darthkahn45 maybe he meant fair when insulting his recruits
Because I am hard, you will not like me.
Here, you are all equally worthless.
And yet things still went way south for ol’ Pyle. That’s too bad.
It happens
You know I always imagined Pyle survived, but went on to become the farmer from MIB.
A giant cockroach in a farmers body that also happened to find the hottest medical examiner in the city
If I was his dad I'd of been proud of his progression.
You mean by becoming a psychopath?
@@JohnnyC01 I think being a psycho was okay, he just needed to focus his killing craves on vietnamese people.
If joker stomped his ass and took the rifle before he loaded it, this would be a different story.
I just purchased one of these rifles and it was rightly named "Charlene"
BowHunterAz08 how so?
@@maogu1999 he purchased an M14, and named in Charlene in honor of this movie.
I called mine
"Carrie"
I want an FN FAL named Daisy
Fun fact: Animal Mother is Private Pyle, had he not killed himself.
Heard that before. Did Kubrick intend that, or is that literary interpretation?
@@daveorme9979 Both
I have heard the theory but I don't buy it.
That's what a little love and understanding will do.
Private pile was almost everybody back in the 20th century. Nobody flipped out like Hollywood portrays. Good times though. Trash bags got recycled and at times booted.
In the book pyle had almost the same mental capacity as forest gump. In today's service he never would have been allowed to join at all.
Pile went from the worst to the best - Hartman was thrilled. To bad the change cost him his sanity..
2019 RIP r lee ermey
Damn cathartic to hear drill instructor say that.
So awesome
At my cousins graduation I asked him the same questions.. damn I wish I was in the corps.. but they don’t let people with brain injury’s in
If only Sgt. Hartman had looked deep into Pte. Fat-body's eyes he would've realized his mind had already slipped into ………………. "The Twilight Zone."
Pvt. Pyle you mean
@@CyanoticFuture Yeah, Pvt. Fat-Body
and from that moment on he enjoyed a successful career in the marine corps
That was quite an unexpected compliment!
When it came to rifle drills he was sharp, Gunny even complimented him on the range.
M14 in boot camp. M16 in combat. Never quite got that. I guess they switched over.
So much going on in this little scene it’s mind boggling
Moral of the story? Have the blanket party LONG BEFORE you give someone a real rifle.
What is dead may never die, but is born again harder and... Wait, wrong movie.
Seriously, the first time I saw this movie, I was thinking Pvt. Pyle was going to end up a badass soldier after this scene.
I would've liked it a lot better. The movie ends with Gunnery Sergeant Hartman looking at a Stars and Stripes article written by Sergeant Joker on Staff Sergeant Pyle winning a CMH and Hartman smiling and his chest swelling with pride for Joker and Pyle.
I swear, I need to see this movie.
Yea, you should get on that, pronto.
Ten General Orders. I used to know them inside and out and backwards and forwards. Long time ago.
Its a shame what becomes of Pyle. He was a bit of a tool, but I have a feeling from his introduction scene that he is a classic case of not really knowing what he was getting into, much like Charlie Sheen's character in Platoon.
Not everyone is cut out for the Military role, and for Pyle it really got into his head.
pyle was already broken inside during this scene. To become into this they had to destroy any human or ethical value he possesed. From a moral standpoint he was a complete mess, despite being a disciplined soldier.
Marine not soilder. And more reasons not to join the military.
@@robertisham5279 No, it's just not everyone is cut out for it(speaking as a veteran)
Pyle and Mother would have been a force to be reckoned with for sure. Of that there is no doubt. Hartman really gave him a compliment.. Youre born again hard. Nuff said
that brings a tear
"How many counts in that movement you just executed?"
"Sir four counts, sir!"
What's the idea looking down in the chamber?"
"Sir, that is the garantee that the private is not giving the inspecting officer a loaded weapon, sir!"
"What's your fifth general order?"
"Sir the private's fifth general order is to quit my post only when properly relieved, sir"
"What's this weapons name, Private Pyle?"
"Sir the private's weapons name is Charlene, sir!"
"Private Pyle, you are definitely born again hard. Hell, I may even allow you to serve as a rifleman in my beloved CORPS"
"Sir yes sir!"
Connor Dripps trying to figure out what the whole point of you dictating the entire scene is
@@youtubecommenter37 *NONE*
I needed the words there the guys were speaking it fast
@@youtubecommenter37 for people who are learning english, me for example, this guy helps a lot.. I dont get easy on figure out what they are saying.
@@emastermet609 man, a lot of smartasses.
It's sad and ironic. Hartman was actually praising Pyle and almost accepting him as a marine rifleman when the former broke. If Hartman just held on a bit longer mentally, he would had been a true exemplary marine.
Anyone who says Hartman never complemented Pyle wasn't paying attention. He complemented him here and on the shooting range for his marksmanship skills.
outstanding private pyle! I think we finally found something you do well!
special talent
Thanks to this scene every boot Marine knows their 5th General Order.
It is the easiest one.
Wish Pyle got to be in the war and the drill instructor. Even if Pyle was going to die early on or give a heroic sacrifice
If only he hadn’t gone mad, he would’ve been a grand soldier
"Sir! The Private weapon's name is Autumn Falls, Sir!" Full Metal Jacket 2021
This might just be my favourite moment from the movie.
My parents names me after this gun
Umhum, yeah, right.
I named my Jeep after it.
XD Is that your real name?
*Weapon, not gun. That m14 rifle fires from the closed bolt position. A gun fires from the open bolt position.
No, a gun is slang for your penis. It's a rifle. Clearly you haven't seen the terminology discipline in the real military or this movie.
Hellyeahdude nothing could go wrong
Sir is a alfabet of the marines
This actor was pretty handy with that M14. Outstanding!
Al Key2018 Well, he was working with a D.I.
I’d better hope so considering Ermey’s personal experience as a DI
As Baldwin recalled, they were effectively put through bootcamp anyway.
It sounds messed up, But I think the Gunny's proudest moment of Pyle is when he turned his gun to him and fired. I mean, it sounds contradictory, but he did want them to become killers. And in Pyle's moment, he did not hesitate. That means in combat, pyle would not have hesitated, and had pyle put his rifle down Hartman would have scorned him some more. But no, in this way, he became the very killer Hartman wanted other marines to be. Then he pussied out and shot him self and was immediately transported to the Hell Barracks where the Gunny was waiting with excitement.
ninjast4r Where can I get the book?
Kingpin in the making
If Pyle had made it to Nam, all that would have been left is fucking rocks, and even they would have been bleeding.
That sadly was the only time that those two (Private Pyle and Gunnery Sergeant Hartman) could be civil towards each other.
So private Pyle was fine getting everyone in trouble, but when he got his ass soaped he got pissed off and turned into Satan. No donuts at night after that.
from the very beginning of the movie, in the first role call scene, it's implied Pyle had a mental condition (I bet some varient of altism), so he shouldn't even be there.
👍 military 🎥 about 🇻🇳 war!
Awesome movie
My rifle's name was Vanessa when I served
I'm sure it was.
Last name Williams? 😜😛
@@Cjnw no...Vanessa Emsixtinaphor
Private Pyle did not kill himself. That was a dream sequence. Pyle became Animal Mother. Born again hard.
wait wut
Yes, I agree
C Shaffer first I’m hearing of it. But I am on board. Knowing this is a Kubrick film. The first act always seemed different compared to the other two.
Well, Kubrick did say that Animal Mother represented what Pyle would have become. So, in a way, you're not wrong.
Whoa, crazy yet Believable theory
Private Pyle had mad potential he just didn't understand gunny was building him up.