me and a friend pulled off a 4 man orisa illari combo. you dont need to full charge orisa ult. just enough to pop the ult for illari to take the kills.
To me Illari is the exact opposite of Lifeweaver, where Illari is the dps type support and Lifeweaver is the healer type support. Both are utility type heroes.
@@amitsapir9565She’s absolutely utility; her boop can knock away flankers, her turret can be left to support your whole team or just an individual dps; and your ult is high-instant damage that can be procced by any of the high dmg dealers on your team.
1:04 It would be best to only wait until Orisas' Ult damage reaches 90, then detonate it to pop the bulbs and set off another 120 damage, it's way faster that way too which is good for avoiding the chances of them getting a cleanse off
@@nxvaf4ir271doing close to the same damage as a DPS with hitscan and a kit that easily lets you break 10k healing a game is kinda why most people think the Support class is overturned
1) Orisa's ult at 500% would kill those enemies as it did both times, you wanted to use her ult at like 200% with the sun on the enemies. 2) Winston's ult is really viable, by confirming the kill it turns him into a beast that can jump around every two seconds and one shot squishies. Apologies for the criticism. Thank you for coming to my ted talk
Ball slam is also super viable and easy to coordinate with her ult; a surprise slam as an opener can be great too to get one of them low and slow them down . But Jay3 pretty much skipped ball, then complained about ball towards the end of the video, so I guess only ball players will know about illari+ball combos lol
@@hammondr191887we did both just watch the same video right ? Where illaris ult has a massive aoe kinda like another character that's has a stupidly wide radius
I think if they nerf her. It’ll be her pylon healing per second from 0.8 to 1 sec. Then her ult charge increase by like 7-10%. When I play her I can get my ult before anyone else because of the healing with some extra damage in there. I’m not at god level aiming. I rarely hit headshots. But I can be consistent with body shots. Able to keep up with dps for the most part so if anything they’ll make her damage lower from 75 full charge to 70 full charge. I don’t see them lowering the charge speed since that would Be unfun by a lot
@@mr_x8696 I honestly think Illari is better at healing and even damage too. She’s just solid at both. For supporting wise. Kiriko cause if healing and being able to be with her tema easier and her ult supports them
@@mr_x8696 I kinda hope not. She doesn’t need too many nerfs in my opinion. Exactly what I said there is perfect. It makes it so if people feel she is too oppressive for opponents. That will inhibit her control of the game. They aren’t crazy but it’s good to reduce her pressure on enemies
People are over reacting to Illari waaay too much. Yes, the ult charge needs a nerf (I'd remove the slow from the ult too), but her high heals is easily countered if you have eyes and brains to shoot the pylon effectively taking away ~50% of her overall healing potential. Also when she ults any CC, cleance, bigger side AOE heals or just NOT being literally next to each other makes the ult essentially not that effective or completely useless. If zen was not in the game and was added now in the state he is, people would be furious and call him mega op due to discord (yes it still needs a small nerf which blizzard has not done yet for some reason) Illari can be very easily over nerfed if they touch pylon or her damage too much which would make her really bad. If they'd give any nerf to her dmg output best option would probably be to reduce the critical multiplier a bit.
One thing nobody has done yet is test to see what combos can do enough dps to actually kill someone thru zen transcendence. I dont think without anti it has ever been possible but I think with this new hero, that barrier can now be broken....
@@multiplexgraph without an anti nade, I don’t think so… I could be wrong but unless you hit a combo with like 4-5 ults, I don’t think you can overcome the healing just straight up. Obviously instant damage will do it such as dva bomb and junk tire but ults like pharah barrage etc don’t do near enough to outpace the healing. Hitting a Grav with like 3-4 more ults into it is super impractical.
@@Tacomaguy458 It only heals 300 a second so it is possible without ults and with ults. And I'm pretty sure Pharah can kill someone in transcendence if she is close to them enough with her ult.
@@Tacomaguy458just headshot with widow and hanzo obv you wouldn’t kill tanks and reaper and mei and all that stuff but you can kill most stuff with that
it's still super early since she has been released yesterday but people need to understand that the target with the debuff need to be prioritized, more so than discorded targets and such.. but in combo this ult is a destroyer of worlds, I love it.. until we get an undeserved nerf that is
Well there are some other combos that are kind of like that to a support like bap wall is broken because it does so much damage. My idea to nerf illari is to make ult cost like 10% to 14% more than it is now maybe change the heal on the pylone to 45 per heal change the cooldown on it by like one sec faster when destroyed. I don't know about damage but i like the damage but people don't like how much damge it can do so i don't know about it.
I've been one tricking her since she came out I found out you don't even need to hit the ground or the person if it passes by them and hits nothing it will still trigger the effect (I figured this out when I panicked one new queens street and a soilder scared me so I fat fingers Q then shot up the slope and missed but it went right pass him and hit an Ana that jumped into it.... I finished the soilder and Ana 😂
The most useful ones are grav and emp, those two combos can pretty much secure the kills except the enemy tank. If timed right with emp, enemy kiri or zar wont able to use their ablities.
I think if they just nerf the ult charge rate and the health of the turret (or make the turret only last like 20 seconds) then she would be quite balanced
I think they just need to come to grips with it and accept that she isnt a support. Take away the healing beam but leave the pylon but make the pylon have like a 10 sec duration and stick her in the dps slot. I have noticed, 90% of the games I have seen her in, they arent playing support with her but just hard feeding in the enemy back line and using the pylon for self healing only. That combined with how much damage she outputs relative to other supports, its a no contest. Once she is released into comp, its going to be a 2/3/1 comp until they figure out how to make her more of a support role.
You should recruit CommanderAmber and Cinnabum for one of your elo hell videos! Cinnabum is a widow and ana main (by far, I think she could give Kephrii a run for his money), and CommanderAmber is a Rein main (most of her videos on tiktok are of her gameplay as rein, but she could definitely run a few games in higher elos!)
Bro the new ult gives me night mares every time I here face the sunrise my but automatically clenches and I’m scared me and my team is about to get insta killed like what am I supposed to do against that. Btw great vid
Damn y'all forgot to try her ult+junk death mines that was the one thing I was really curious about cause just imagine junk ulting in the middle just to die and killing them anyways
Illari or her teammate needs to confirm at least 90 damage, tracer can recall, zarya can bubble, Sombra can translocate emp or hack, lifeweaver can life grip, bap can use immo field, genji can deflect
I like how ppl say she’s broken 😂 She’s not even broken lol, maybe a little bit too strong but nowhere near broken. Her primary fire has a very slow fire rate so the enemies can hide or get healed EASILY before u can kill them. Her ult is literally only good if the enemies are dumb or if you combo, because all you have to do is spread out.
I had an Illari on the enemy team that was pocketed by a Mercy. She had 29 kills and 600 healing. Her teammates only had less than 10 elims, TOTAL. With a pocket, she is busted.
@@Tyr_Gas Kind true. Yeah. But some characters don't need it or don't benefit from pocketing as much. Like, pocketing a Moira is really dumb. But it could work I guess. Lol
Her ultimate seems really cool, I just don’t understand how that fits her being a support. For a DPS I can see it, but there is no other support ultimate that is used like that.
Tbf you could say the same thing not about ults but the fact zenyatta could just ult and the team stays up while bap exists and has the same ability which is dumb imo bc it supports bad moves
Everyday I check steams reviews for overwatch with a morning coffee.. Its become routine, Its just nice to know im not the only one suffering on this shitcan game.
Yeah once you do it properly 💀💀 doesn't matter considering certain people can just hit heads also in general using 2 ults to clear a team is pretty valuable
What is your favorite Illari combo?
it HAS to be zarya illari
Non of them.cuz they are all useless as soon a kirko zuzus your ult bye bye ult
Nerf kirko
@@imperialdra-mon5907 kirko? zuzus? are you alright?
@@imperialdra-mon5907"kirko"
"zuzus"
"bye bye"
"them.Cuz"
"nerf kirko"
me and a friend pulled off a 4 man orisa illari combo. you dont need to full charge orisa ult. just enough to pop the ult for illari to take the kills.
My fav part of the video is when illari says "face the sunrise"
To me Illari is the exact opposite of Lifeweaver, where Illari is the dps type support and Lifeweaver is the healer type support. Both are utility type heroes.
illari doesnt have utility, she has damage thats for sure. she doesnt have what LW has in terms of utility
@@amitsapir9565She’s absolutely utility; her boop can knock away flankers, her turret can be left to support your whole team or just an individual dps; and your ult is high-instant damage that can be procced by any of the high dmg dealers on your team.
@@MemeTeamS1xthe boop and slow on ult are her ONLY utility and that doesn’t compare to what most other supports have
1:04 It would be best to only wait until Orisas' Ult damage reaches 90, then detonate it to pop the bulbs and set off another 120 damage, it's way faster that way too which is good for avoiding the chances of them getting a cleanse off
I’m a new player what percent should I detonate Orisa ult
@@Kay2k in any normal situation I'd say 200 since that's the most common health pool for heroes
@@Kay2kwhen a normal walk speed hero almost out the circle, you use it
@@astraldreamtitanthe percent does not directly correlate with the damage done, i believe you have to charge it to 160% to kill squishys
@@caaakkee oh I thought it was 1 to 1, even better
She’s only been out for a couple days but her voice lines are already stuck in my head rent free
I'm playing her. I know she'll probably be nerfed but she looks like fun to use.
I can definitely agree she's fun to use!
i think they finna nerf her hitscan its broken
@@miguelsalunga9244what do u mean "broken" she deals the same dmg as Mccree/Cassidy at a way slower firerate
@@nxvaf4ir271 she not dps bro she literally 2 tap almost all dps hero at any range i think
@@nxvaf4ir271doing close to the same damage as a DPS with hitscan and a kit that easily lets you break 10k healing a game is kinda why most people think the Support class is overturned
I love the Junkerqueen interaction, if they have no cleanse it can be super strong since both ult are very large hitbox. Plus it sounds super cool
1) Orisa's ult at 500% would kill those enemies as it did both times, you wanted to use her ult at like 200% with the sun on the enemies.
2) Winston's ult is really viable, by confirming the kill it turns him into a beast that can jump around every two seconds and one shot squishies.
Apologies for the criticism. Thank you for coming to my ted talk
Ball slam is also super viable and easy to coordinate with her ult; a surprise slam as an opener can be great too to get one of them low and slow them down .
But Jay3 pretty much skipped ball, then complained about ball towards the end of the video, so I guess only ball players will know about illari+ball combos lol
For symmetra you forgot secandary fire it does 100 dmg
My buddy and I rock the Illari and Orisa combo. We hit the unlt combo a couple times. Its fun to see people leave instantly after it happens to them 😂
i wish i was as jacked, tall, and handsome as jay3 is
So does he.
do you also want his receding hairline?
hes not going to notice you bro
@@demoe1966 well I’d rather be famous w a receding hairline, than be an annoying asf nobody
This some crazy meat riding
Zarya + Illari is the achievement hunter dream
did it in a game, got potg
If only the enemy team would stand in a blob like that...but fr, I think this makes Orisa'a ult worth something. She and Zarya are my two favorites.
This just means there will be a kiriko in every game to defend against her ult
But like every other character u gotta trigger or wait for them to use their cooldown, in that case u could kill them
@@Rose-oc1us true. And that’s also assuming the Illari can hit their ult
@@hammondr191887we did both just watch the same video right ? Where illaris ult has a massive aoe kinda like another character that's has a stupidly wide radius
DVA basically makes the ult non-existent you'd have to ult, wait for dva to matrix, then shoot and hope she doesn't get it back in time.
At this point just remove res and give mercy a cleanse! Need more cleanse abilities idky they didn’t let moira fade cleanse allies nearby
I think if they nerf her. It’ll be her pylon healing per second from 0.8 to 1 sec. Then her ult charge increase by like 7-10%. When I play her I can get my ult before anyone else because of the healing with some extra damage in there.
I’m not at god level aiming. I rarely hit headshots. But I can be consistent with body shots. Able to keep up with dps for the most part so if anything they’ll make her damage lower from 75 full charge to 70 full charge. I don’t see them lowering the charge speed since that would
Be unfun by a lot
Agree with all of this
Who is better keriko or new healer
@@mr_x8696 I honestly think Illari is better at healing and even damage too. She’s just solid at both. For supporting wise. Kiriko cause if healing and being able to be with her tema easier and her ult supports them
@@dracomadness792 allira will get a big nerf soon so we will see
@@mr_x8696 I kinda hope not. She doesn’t need too many nerfs in my opinion. Exactly what I said there is perfect. It makes it so if people feel she is too oppressive for opponents. That will inhibit her control of the game. They aren’t crazy but it’s good to reduce her pressure on enemies
I can already see myself missing the enemies in the air in the sigma ult
People are over reacting to Illari waaay too much. Yes, the ult charge needs a nerf (I'd remove the slow from the ult too), but her high heals is easily countered if you have eyes and brains to shoot the pylon effectively taking away ~50% of her overall healing potential. Also when she ults any CC, cleance, bigger side AOE heals or just NOT being literally next to each other makes the ult essentially not that effective or completely useless.
If zen was not in the game and was added now in the state he is, people would be furious and call him mega op due to discord (yes it still needs a small nerf which blizzard has not done yet for some reason)
Illari can be very easily over nerfed if they touch pylon or her damage too much which would make her really bad. If they'd give any nerf to her dmg output best option would probably be to reduce the critical multiplier a bit.
One thing nobody has done yet is test to see what combos can do enough dps to actually kill someone thru zen transcendence. I dont think without anti it has ever been possible but I think with this new hero, that barrier can now be broken....
@@thecakedeliver9487Ana’s nano boost used to be able to affect Hanzo Dragons, that’s why Grav Drag was ever a meta. It could outdamage Transcendence.
You can kill through transcendence with a lot of heroes already.
@@multiplexgraph without an anti nade, I don’t think so… I could be wrong but unless you hit a combo with like 4-5 ults, I don’t think you can overcome the healing just straight up. Obviously instant damage will do it such as dva bomb and junk tire but ults like pharah barrage etc don’t do near enough to outpace the healing. Hitting a Grav with like 3-4 more ults into it is super impractical.
@@Tacomaguy458 It only heals 300 a second so it is possible without ults and with ults.
And I'm pretty sure Pharah can kill someone in transcendence if she is close to them enough with her ult.
@@Tacomaguy458just headshot with widow and hanzo obv you wouldn’t kill tanks and reaper and mei and all that stuff but you can kill most stuff with that
what a great cleanup. for example, like genji or reaper ult or moira ult, if their ult doesnt kill you, sunstrike will.
it's still super early since she has been released yesterday but people need to understand that the target with the debuff need to be prioritized, more so than discorded targets and such.. but in combo this ult is a destroyer of worlds, I love it.. until we get an undeserved nerf that is
*deserved nerf
Just because you like something doesn’t make it healthy
For Sym, you should put 3 turrets down and then teleport them in to the group as they are getting ulted to get instant 3 turret tick on someone :)
A reminder that ramantra nemesis block can block the explosion damage even on himself
Ayyy yooo.... 16:15 sounds like a build up man. Like listen to it after closing your ears. It sounds like some EDM build up music
Illari ult plus Zarya Grav has easily been my favourite combo after using her for a few months. It's basically a guaranteed team wipe.
Everytime i watch Jay3 my microwave exploads
11:37
We also hear the ticking sound, and if we're about to go boom, the word "Starstruck" appears in big bold red letters on our screen.
Well there are some other combos that are kind of like that to a support like bap wall is broken because it does so much damage. My idea to nerf illari is to make ult cost like 10% to 14% more than it is now maybe change the heal on the pylone to 45 per heal change the cooldown on it by like one sec faster when destroyed. I don't know about damage but i like the damage but people don't like how much damge it can do so i don't know about it.
EMP is pretty good, it instantly pops the sun mark on enemies
Ramatra just popping his ult into ilarris ult is so effortless
I've been one tricking her since she came out I found out you don't even need to hit the ground or the person if it passes by them and hits nothing it will still trigger the effect (I figured this out when I panicked one new queens street and a soilder scared me so I fat fingers Q then shot up the slope and missed but it went right pass him and hit an Ana that jumped into it.... I finished the soilder and Ana 😂
I think the reason ball didn’t explode is because the effect also slows which is CC which tanks are resistant to
The junkrat mine was cool, I like the fireworks
These combos are very niche since they’re expecting the enemies to be clumped up, not use any CC ults/abilities, and not run away
The most useful ones are grav and emp, those two combos can pretty much secure the kills except the enemy tank. If timed right with emp, enemy kiri or zar wont able to use their ablities.
@@qiyuxuan9437terra surge and flux would also be good
@@qiyuxuan9437 same for terra surge since it pulls them in
Your putting alot of respect on humans being good at games lol
@@qiyuxuan9437even if they do time it right that's still killing someone lol shi I'll start focusing Kirikos more
This is the kind of test that blizzard doesnt do before releasing a hero
Zaraya ult to pull > illari ult to activate sun damage > sojourn/76 ult/primary dmg to ignite explosion
You dont need any dps, zarya and illari can ignite the exploaion, especially with high energy zarya only need a single alt fire.
Do top 500 illari vs bronze before she gets nerfed
@@Amy_399 dont need to be in ranked to do bronze vs top 500. they do it in custom games lol
@@Amy_399 its top 500 players.... dont matter what they were using to get there. top 500 players are not filthy one trick players LOl
I like that they added fireworks to the game
Destiny 2 ignitions in Overwatch 2 looking nice
Sym's secondary fire does 100 damage and has a huge hitbox. I can't believe you guys just tried her turrets lol.
People need to understand that if they nerf her damages too much she will have nothing to bring that the other supports don't
Orisa doesn't need to charge up so much her ult, she can charge it up to 100 damage and it will proc Illari's sunstruck explosion
I think if they just nerf the ult charge rate and the health of the turret (or make the turret only last like 20 seconds) then she would be quite balanced
I think they just need to come to grips with it and accept that she isnt a support. Take away the healing beam but leave the pylon but make the pylon have like a 10 sec duration and stick her in the dps slot. I have noticed, 90% of the games I have seen her in, they arent playing support with her but just hard feeding in the enemy back line and using the pylon for self healing only. That combined with how much damage she outputs relative to other supports, its a no contest. Once she is released into comp, its going to be a 2/3/1 comp until they figure out how to make her more of a support role.
@@Tacomaguy458 uhhh no💀😭
@@Tacomaguy458 2/3/1 ??
@@Tacomaguy458those are the words of a man who doesn’t know what support means
Btw it will say stunstruck when the explosion happens or illari
You get into a match and all you see is the combo we all saw from this video
Can see a crossover star craft skin now that we have an official pylon 👀
You should recruit CommanderAmber and Cinnabum for one of your elo hell videos! Cinnabum is a widow and ana main (by far, I think she could give Kephrii a run for his money), and CommanderAmber is a Rein main (most of her videos on tiktok are of her gameplay as rein, but she could definitely run a few games in higher elos!)
Jay3 im disappointed in that fact you didnt do illari combo with illari just for the hell of it. lol
Man was studying that Junk ass at 8:37 I SAW THAT JAYYYY
Its the sunburst gurl from the forgotten Xbox 360 game FUZE
It'll say something like sunstruck, also concussion mine was my favorite
After watching some videos and reading some comments, there definitely not enough talk about Illari/sombra combo
Dash melee for Genji should do 90 damage, I wish you guys tested that but here I go into qp again
mei ult sounds like a dva bomb with the edm skin
She will get nerfed so much, enjoy her as much as you can jay3
Again I’m early 3 uploads in a row 😎
11:46 yes you do
It's simply math. Why are they surprised when the dont 90 damage no one explodes?
It's actually 100 dmg needed to trigger the dot lol
at 12:56 a lawn mower turned on outside my house. what a coinkidink
It's spelled "coincidence"
@@theTenguOfGames @npccomments
@@theTenguOfGamescoinkidink is something people say bozo
Bro the new ult gives me night mares every time I here face the sunrise my but automatically clenches and I’m scared me and my team is about to get insta killed like what am I supposed to do against that. Btw great vid
Dva eats it sigma eats it roadhog can hook her out of it uh Ana sleep
Oh kiriko suzu btw
I liked the fire works
Damn y'all forgot to try her ult+junk death mines that was the one thing I was really curious about cause just imagine junk ulting in the middle just to die and killing them anyways
They really put a Borderlands character in OW
U Completely messed up the orisa test. You have should have just charged orisa ult to 90 damage only 😂
Huge combos 😜
So if you get hit by the ult, you just die. Got it. And you can't even shield it, it goes through ...
Kiriko can cleanse
It can get hacked or stunned
It can also be eaten by sigma vortex and defense matrix
@@robotman011 And eaten by orisa
Illari or her teammate needs to confirm at least 90 damage, tracer can recall, zarya can bubble, Sombra can translocate emp or hack, lifeweaver can life grip, bap can use immo field, genji can deflect
I like how ppl say she’s broken 😂 She’s not even broken lol, maybe a little bit too strong but nowhere near broken. Her primary fire has a very slow fire rate so the enemies can hide or get healed EASILY before u can kill them. Her ult is literally only good if the enemies are dumb or if you combo, because all you have to do is spread out.
Smartest overwatch enjoyer yea her primary is held back by her mid fire rate that's like making Baptistes burst just so much worse
I had an Illari on the enemy team that was pocketed by a Mercy. She had 29 kills and 600 healing. Her teammates only had less than 10 elims, TOTAL. With a pocket, she is busted.
@cristobalgarces1675 haven't had that tbh plus that's just wild people would pocket her pocketing is kinda cringe tho imo
Everyone is pretty much busted with a pocket lmfao.
@@Tyr_Gas Kind true. Yeah. But some characters don't need it or don't benefit from pocketing as much. Like, pocketing a Moira is really dumb. But it could work I guess. Lol
Her ultimate seems really cool, I just don’t understand how that fits her being a support. For a DPS I can see it, but there is no other support ultimate that is used like that.
Makes her unique and tbh supps ults being the same is boring
@@Rose-oc1usthis guy/girl gets it
Tbf you could say the same thing not about ults but the fact zenyatta could just ult and the team stays up while bap exists and has the same ability which is dumb imo bc it supports bad moves
imagine illari ult and them her teammate cooking then she get potg bc her ult deal most dmg💀
No trap team in a room or out of spawn with illari ult then primal for over kill
Watch the killfeed at 15:15 buggy af
Also you need to ult while he grips you. Like ult, grip, schoot, arrive, shoot again
forgot sym's right click
Everyday I check steams reviews for overwatch with a morning coffee.. Its become routine, Its just nice to know im not the only one suffering on this shitcan game.
i like the moment when someone explodes
Zen kick! Zen kick!
Just so people know you can delete her ult with kirko zuzu😂
haha yea i've done this a couple of times already
You can also deflect/eat it. I had a game yesterday where I deflected an illari ult then killed her with it 😂😂
Yeah once you do it properly 💀💀 doesn't matter considering certain people can just hit heads also in general using 2 ults to clear a team is pretty valuable
@@ZykoYFFoh I'm sure you did
@@jacobward6787 I actually did bro. Its not that hard. That Illari was an idiot and wasnt that good at the game anyways
Illari and sombra is a disgusting combo
A Senna with Leona passive from league of legends 🤣
W
zarya one is gone be broken
It’s very strong with sigma ult
9:48 that tracer is sus
@jay3 if you boop one off the map will the kill trigger it
DVA Tracer Sombra Kiri Illari Meta
this video will be the reason Allari gets nerfed into the ground XD
It’s like ignite from destiny 2
True
When did that happen on stream?
Sun strucked!
What about zarya using her ult then orisa and then illari
Praise the sun
I’ve heard people say it’s pronounced ee-ya-ree. Not Ilari.
can u try with beat lucio in same time? checking dmg ty good content
Didn’t they nerf the dmg from his ult?
Is the the ult with ash good? How bout reaper
What's annoying is that she steals the kills 😂🤦🏾♂️
Ive been playing illari alot, she is so fun and powerful, i hope they dont nerf her too hard
Ngl they gonna needa nerf her ult
you combo'd w/orisa wrong, its gotta be pull orisa ult, Illari ult and shoot, orisa presses the button at 90/100%
boom they blow up
Sigma after eating illari’s ult:😐
I wish i could get her before a week but..no battlepass
I love when there's a paywall in videogames
FACE THE SUNRISE X1000
FACE THE SUNRISE
Does Nano increase the AOE range of Illari Ult?
yes it does :)