Oh my god that last one is actual pain. Experienced that yesterday. Literally the instant I click to fire, MEI WALL! I was SEETHING but I flew around it with my team to keep fighting anyway. Thing is, it was the most random fucking Mei wall, like. Not as if they did it intentionally, they definitely didn’t it was a good bit away from me, but holy shit the timing and where they placed the wall I’m just internally screaming “wtf is that wall for!?”
I KNOW RIGHT IT'S LITERALLY PERFECT, BURST HEALING FEELS SO GOOD and the laser is just satisfying lol And burst is more valuable than having huge total healing on the scoreboard by the end lol
Illari has that classic overwatch character vibe as she doesn't have a ton of abilities yet her gameplay provides great skill expression with good flow. She also is the first support with an ult that has no potential to heal or mitigate damage (Ik, shocking Moira players right 😂).
On paper, Illari's ult seemed super broken and a guaranteed team wipe every time its used. In practice, the most useful thing about it is the mobility it provides.
Not really... Her ult can be eaten in odd ways such as a Direct Hit and Barriers. Canceling her Sun Projectile. Also... She doesn't have damage resist during her ult so hit scans can shoot her down. Her flight is extremely slow.
My main opinion on Illari is actually a pretty funny 1. So, for context, I play OW loads, but I also play Paladins and love that game as well, and something I could always commend Paladins for was that they were never felt scared to put more bars on the screen or have complex resources that you have to manage, which made every character feel very unique and have different challenges whereas OW has always done just a simple design with no strict resource outside of Moira, kinda. But then there's Illari, not only is there a skill gap with her primary from having to wait for a full charge, her healing is also a resource that you have to manage and her ult feels like it belongs more in Paladins than OW, so good job Blizzard, this is the most unique hero in a very long time and I will definitely be playing them
I can already see Illari's upcoming nerf: She gets her ult WAY too quickly for how impactful it can be, so they are likely going to nerf her Ult charge rate. She gets that thing insanely fast, Ill use it and be ready to use it again only like 1-2min later, its nuts.
From using her today I consistently get mine while the rest of the team is at about 50-70% during the first fights, the healing from her pylon, heal beam and dps really stack up.
@@sunflower9310three times? I've faced that thing 6 times once. It charges so fast for what it is capable of doing, it's even annoying to hear her screaming the whole game
She is fun to play, you need to have good aim to use her, her rate of fire is low, you got make it count. Her primary source of healing is the healing pilon, so you need to pay attention in your placement (the pilon life is low), and her ult, although strong, can be countered easy... I would say she is a high risk high reward hero
Yeah I think everyone saying she's OP is overreacting a bit. Like, they see one video by like a top 10 support player's highlights getting a bunch of kills and think that's what the average person will play like.
@@ConspiracyCinema it is easy to counter friend... Kiriko cleans it, moira and reaper can fade and clean it, Zarya can clean with bubble, ana can sleep her, DVa can eat and genji can deflect as well as sombra can hack... As I said, she a high risk, high reward hero, her ult can be game changing or extremely useless...
@@henrikfitch4017nah bro it’s not watching videos that got ppl reacting . It’s the average experience against her for most of the ppl that plays the game. Even in higher elos it doesn’t take much to dominate overall . People exaggerate how hard it is to aim with her , she’s like a slightly slower cass or a ash without the scope. She’s very easy . It’s where she dominates every death match game and each game needs her. If you do not have her , you’re throwing . There’s no way she should be able to outheal damage that consistent with both options for her healing. She’s a good character but would need a tweak around
Definitely… well when LW was bad at first. However, LW has now since become really good in what he does, although he still lacks in needing to provide damage for his team, which I think they could increased the projectile speed so you don’t have to lead your shots as much.
She's op Her ult charge too fast for what it is capable of doing. The turret has an unfair range and heals pretty much as much as Lifeweaver charging a 40 heal burst (the fire rate is basically the same). Definitely need a little nerf, maybe increasing the ult charge by 18% or even reducing the amount of time the gun can shot heals (because right now her gun heal is just a better version of Moira)
Bro flats contents like if you made a sandwich, not bad with the ingredients alone, but put all that content together, you get a channel worthy of every single one of its subscribers
Illari's Healing Pylon is definitely going to get nerfed in some way range is about 10-15m and the healing output is ridiculous. Because of the range, you can also easily abuse map geometry and leave it just out of sight of even the tallest heroes throwing it up nearly halfway up a building
they will not nerf it until a moment, since u need to be lvl 45 to get it or payes, devs are going to make a crazy op caractere to make ppl pay or losing until like 20hours in game to get it for free
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 they gonna nerf her when another op caracter come in game( exactly like kiriko ), nerfing the previously op and make another op one is gonna be there way since its once again forcing ppl to pay or grind 20hours of pain is the ass grind losing to ppl who pay
@@ritz2594Well, she’s not annoying or broken so nah she’s not bad to play against. She’s actually one of the most balanced characters i’ve seen them release
2:03 that room are cursed or deadly ngl, right after i see them going into that room i can tell what will happen next.. so many in my game ult combo happen there and people got rolled right away inside that small room
Couple of things i dont like about her: Pylons 1vs1 potential is more annoying than bap lamp, or kiri suzu Her movement is a little too low. I would rather less boop and more movement Her healing is clutch, but unless you're right next to the team there's nothing you can do. Similar to mercy, lucio, moira etc, but all of them have better movement (though she does have pylon) so she's good eith brawl, but doesn't provide any utility for it, and she's designed for poke My suggested changes would be- add aoe heals (not for her) on her movement ability (like, 50), remove the knocks back, add slightly more movement. Reduce healing beam to 100hps, but add more to her resource pool so she can sustain slightly longer Make her pylon shoot faster, but for less healing. This is more a psychological change to encourage players to kill the pylon and make it easier to locate in the middle of combat. Other than that I think she's good.
Just wish the healing beam didn't consume ammo if you aren't hitting someone. Especially considering that it has a limited range, it's really easy sometimes to waste half your healing on nothing, and then you have to wait x amount of time to get it back. That element of her kit feels pretty shitty.
I’m not sure why so many ppl have a hard time figuring out Flashpoint. I play with so many ppl that have no idea what to do. Its just 2CP to the max capacity for both sides at the same time.
and they will not nerf it until a moment, since u need to be lvl 45 to get it or payes, devs are going to make a crazy op caractere to make ppl pay or losing until like 20hours in game to get it for free
Yk, being a f2p player and not buying the battle pass, having to wait until level 45 to play her is kinda annoying I don't have enough time in my day to play and level up the battlepass quickly, im usually at level 45 by the mid season balance changes and by then the new hero probably has been nerfed into the ground. I never get to play them when they're fun
As I said over at Emongg's vid The fact that Seagull trolled Emongg with the Tree was the same type of energy as when Emongg pulled Flats that one time on Hanzo and ruined the dragonstrike and I'm here for it!
man they really dont know how to make a dps support without giving them absurd levels of healing do they... first kiriko, a """"dps"""" support that has similar healing numbers as ana and now illari who is the same. i want a dps support like zen, who has bad healing but high damage and good utility, not a support that only does major damage from headshots, or one that has a weird charge gimmick to lower their total DPS
Sometimes it feel like a labyrinth, what if there was the arrow path that showed you the way to the point from wherever you are/spawn maybe less opacte too.
She's kinda op Her ult charges too fast for what it is capable of doing (It's even annoying hearing her screaming the whole match). The turret has an unfair range and heals pretty much as much as Lifeweaver charging a 40 heal burst (the fire rate is basically the same). Definitely need a little nerf, maybe increasing the ult charge by 18% or even reducing the amount of time the gun can shot heals (because right now her gun heal is just a better version of Moira) and reduce the range of the turret or the life of it
I don’t get why people are crying over her being OP. She’s really not if you have bad aim she’s kinda just a healing bot and the ult can get countered pretty hard. I think she feels pretty balanced. DVA can confirm this.
Having a hitscan support that actually packs a solid punch is so refreshing to see. Also, the fact that her ult is purely based on damage and debuffs rather than heals/immortality is a nice touch. Illari has some solid potential
I love that for her melee she swings her gun like a goddamn sword.
I like that too. I didn’t notice til I played her and I’m like that’s sickkk
Guts vibes kinda
Still does the same amount of damage as Moira's claw swipe.
@@Cool-Vestyeah Ramattra big ass Nemesis Form Melee seals the same damage as Dva or Mercy pistol whipping you
i mean it literally is a sword with a gun in the middle
From playing Illari, her Ult feels like it can either decide a fight, or you get hooked, or slept, or hacked, or blocked by your own Mei's wall
So it’s like sigma or orisa or Moira or reaper, or …
That's a weakness that most ults have lmao
Or it'll end up cleansed or your team doesn't follow up
Oh my god that last one is actual pain. Experienced that yesterday. Literally the instant I click to fire, MEI WALL! I was SEETHING but I flew around it with my team to keep fighting anyway.
Thing is, it was the most random fucking Mei wall, like. Not as if they did it intentionally, they definitely didn’t it was a good bit away from me, but holy shit the timing and where they placed the wall I’m just internally screaming “wtf is that wall for!?”
@@FenekkuKitsunethe quick play experience
"I hit them with the sun" is now my favourite callout in this game
"Ball one" or "big purple" are still reigning supreme for me
"Kill baby" is my favorite
Reminds me of the Asian difficulty video where he says, "I have to block the sun!"
Off topic but can we all agree the menu art is fire. Like I would get those as posters for my room.
Hell yeah
Art department casually carrying Blizzard once again!
@@tristancummings5925most of the team members are incredibly talented. higher ups are usually the ones sucking the soul out of the quality work.
I really like her healing. It’s very potent and concentrated kinda like a nice shot of espresso.
I KNOW RIGHT IT'S LITERALLY PERFECT, BURST HEALING FEELS SO GOOD and the laser is just satisfying lol
And burst is more valuable than having huge total healing on the scoreboard by the end lol
Illari has that classic overwatch character vibe as she doesn't have a ton of abilities yet her gameplay provides great skill expression with good flow. She also is the first support with an ult that has no potential to heal or mitigate damage (Ik, shocking Moira players right 😂).
Kiriko ult doesnt heal or mitigate either
Wdym moiras ult doesnt heal. U good bro?
Oh... I wish there were more, what a weird realization as a Lifeweaver enjoyer lol
@@korosensei1325they specifically said the potential to, and sometimes it's a better play to use the speed to heal rather than dps.
@@nailinthefashion my fault didnt read the potential part
KarQ’s confused reaction to Marblr asking about the shaving cream was so funny
On paper, Illari's ult seemed super broken and a guaranteed team wipe every time its used. In practice, the most useful thing about it is the mobility it provides.
IKR
Not really... Her ult can be eaten in odd ways such as a Direct Hit and Barriers. Canceling her Sun Projectile.
Also... She doesn't have damage resist during her ult so hit scans can shoot her down. Her flight is extremely slow.
I cant believe Flats played Illari in Overwatch 1 😭. Truly a moment in gaming.
Wait where??
@@d3luxyyou don't remember? he played her there and had a great time. Oh the good old days..
@@joyful_yolk123oh did the title get edited lmao
When she ults no Cap what I'm hearing is "EMP you'll see Emongg!!"
Now I can't unhear it thanks 😂
The first thing I heard was "EMP, OR HIROSHIMA?!"
My main opinion on Illari is actually a pretty funny 1. So, for context, I play OW loads, but I also play Paladins and love that game as well, and something I could always commend Paladins for was that they were never felt scared to put more bars on the screen or have complex resources that you have to manage, which made every character feel very unique and have different challenges whereas OW has always done just a simple design with no strict resource outside of Moira, kinda. But then there's Illari, not only is there a skill gap with her primary from having to wait for a full charge, her healing is also a resource that you have to manage and her ult feels like it belongs more in Paladins than OW, so good job Blizzard, this is the most unique hero in a very long time and I will definitely be playing them
I can already see Illari's upcoming nerf: She gets her ult WAY too quickly for how impactful it can be, so they are likely going to nerf her Ult charge rate. She gets that thing insanely fast, Ill use it and be ready to use it again only like 1-2min later, its nuts.
From using her today I consistently get mine while the rest of the team is at about 50-70% during the first fights, the healing from her pylon, heal beam and dps really stack up.
I’ve played games against illari and her ult is so common it’s made. I’ve faced it three times in one game
@@sunflower9310three times? I've faced that thing 6 times once. It charges so fast for what it is capable of doing, it's even annoying to hear her screaming the whole game
@@sunflower9310 3 times? Thats rookie numbers. You do it right, after you use her ult you can get like 30% to her next one
That and reducing the pylon’s healing because that thing is absolutely crazy on its own
Guys Flats Plays Illari For The First Time In Overwatch 2
Wait.. Flats Plays Illati For The First time In Overwatch 2
Wait what I thought he was playing sym
He IS playing illari for the first time😮
@@antonerjavec662 no way dude this is just a new sym skin
Fr
I love how he calls her busted but still managed to make her look bad
Now THAT'S skill!
😂😂😂😂
That’s not right 😂
She is busted tbf
She is fun to play, you need to have good aim to use her, her rate of fire is low, you got make it count. Her primary source of healing is the healing pilon, so you need to pay attention in your placement (the pilon life is low), and her ult, although strong, can be countered easy... I would say she is a high risk high reward hero
Yeah I think everyone saying she's OP is overreacting a bit. Like, they see one video by like a top 10 support player's highlights getting a bunch of kills and think that's what the average person will play like.
Her ultimate is too much
@@ConspiracyCinema it is easy to counter friend... Kiriko cleans it, moira and reaper can fade and clean it, Zarya can clean with bubble, ana can sleep her, DVa can eat and genji can deflect as well as sombra can hack... As I said, she a high risk, high reward hero, her ult can be game changing or extremely useless...
@@henrikfitch4017nah bro it’s not watching videos that got ppl reacting . It’s the average experience against her for most of the ppl that plays the game. Even in higher elos it doesn’t take much to dominate overall . People exaggerate how hard it is to aim with her , she’s like a slightly slower cass or a ash without the scope. She’s very easy . It’s where she dominates every death match game and each game needs her. If you do not have her , you’re throwing . There’s no way she should be able to outheal damage that consistent with both options for her healing. She’s a good character but would need a tweak around
@@karmichelthats with most ults in the game so saying this doesn’t add any significance
She's the lifeweaver we all needed!
Lifeweaver is very good right now
Lifeweaver with better stats is the Lifeweaver I needed tho
Definitely… well when LW was bad at first. However, LW has now since become really good in what he does, although he still lacks in needing to provide damage for his team, which I think they could increased the projectile speed so you don’t have to lead your shots as much.
I love playing LW. I guess I’m a weirdo lol
She's op
Her ult charge too fast for what it is capable of doing. The turret has an unfair range and heals pretty much as much as Lifeweaver charging a 40 heal burst (the fire rate is basically the same). Definitely need a little nerf, maybe increasing the ult charge by 18% or even reducing the amount of time the gun can shot heals (because right now her gun heal is just a better version of Moira)
Bro flats contents like if you made a sandwich, not bad with the ingredients alone, but put all that content together, you get a channel worthy of every single one of its subscribers
Illari's Healing Pylon is definitely going to get nerfed in some way range is about 10-15m and the healing output is ridiculous. Because of the range, you can also easily abuse map geometry and leave it just out of sight of even the tallest heroes throwing it up nearly halfway up a building
they will not nerf it until a moment, since u need to be lvl 45 to get it or payes, devs are going to make a crazy op caractere to make ppl pay or losing until like 20hours in game to get it for free
Season 7 or 8 is where the nerfs come in. Not in Season 6 right now unlike Lifeweaver who had a rough launch.
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 they gonna nerf her when another op caracter come in game( exactly like kiriko ), nerfing the previously op and make another op one is gonna be there way since its once again forcing ppl to pay or grind 20hours of pain is the ass grind losing to ppl who pay
she is such a fun character to play with, as, and against, after life weaver it is nice to have a good support
No way bro said she's fun to play against
@@ritz2594Well, she’s not annoying or broken so nah she’s not bad to play against. She’s actually one of the most balanced characters i’ve seen them release
I misstake her silhouette for Ana a little too much, but other than that yea. She is not annoying to play against.
The only thing the dev team should change about her, is her ult charge because it is extremely fast
@barschausdernachbarschaft1581 her little healing turret needs a nerf too.
Junk city gives off big Halo multiplayer vibes for some reason
9:15 literally so big brain to destroy the turret before they do damage to it so you get the lower CD
i love how every single time he killed someone with her ult he just laughed
I can only hear " EMP New zealand" when enemy Illary use her ult.
2:03 that room are cursed or deadly ngl, right after i see them going into that room i can tell what will happen next.. so many in my game ult combo happen there and people got rolled right away inside that small room
Anyone else notice at 7:23 the tree of life doesn’t have a top?
I did shaving cream math on my desk in 2nd grade. It was so much fun!
So let’s just call it a day and wait until ML7 gets his hands on this
I really like this character. She has a neat kit, fits well in the roster, and is fun to play.
I haven't gotten the chance to play yet but she looks like a ton of fun with a bit of a learning curve which is also pretty cool
Gigachad American streamer drops “the sun” on stereotypically Japanese character “Hanzo” 3:21
Thanks for the Emong Clip, noice edit
That's two times I didn't hear hanzo ult 😧😅
My art class let us draw in shaving cream in like the first grade I think
Use "Sunny" as the call out. "they're Sunny!"
Cant wait for my double shield comps on payload with bastion and illara healing pylon.
just the video i was looking for!
It really feels like “kill supports first” is new meta cause they do sooo much now
Supports in general are overturned.
DPS need more or better mobility options.
Tanks?... Tanks are falling behind when you only 1 Tank in Role Que.
We should start calling the ult debuff "sunburned"
Couple of things i dont like about her:
Pylons 1vs1 potential is more annoying than bap lamp, or kiri suzu
Her movement is a little too low. I would rather less boop and more movement
Her healing is clutch, but unless you're right next to the team there's nothing you can do. Similar to mercy, lucio, moira etc, but all of them have better movement (though she does have pylon) so she's good eith brawl, but doesn't provide any utility for it, and she's designed for poke
My suggested changes would be- add aoe heals (not for her) on her movement ability (like, 50), remove the knocks back, add slightly more movement.
Reduce healing beam to 100hps, but add more to her resource pool so she can sustain slightly longer
Make her pylon shoot faster, but for less healing. This is more a psychological change to encourage players to kill the pylon and make it easier to locate in the middle of combat. Other than that I think she's good.
“You’re not going to die”
Rein dies💀
New drinking game:
Anytime emongg says big slam. Take a shot
i dont really wanna overdose ngl XD
Combo her ult with grav or Orisa ult. While grav/Orisa ult does little to nothing with Tracer ult, Illari will work 100% of the time
Assuming enemy Barriers are up or you don't Sun Ult directly at the enemy... You'll cancel your Ult if you do that.
Its sucks to play a game, but its nice to watch Flats videos.
Illari is the DPS every support player needed.
I kinda put this on and zoned out, but i randomly heard emong say he learned math with shaving cream??? and he's just like "yea didn't everybody??"
Just wish the healing beam didn't consume ammo if you aren't hitting someone. Especially considering that it has a limited range, it's really easy sometimes to waste half your healing on nothing, and then you have to wait x amount of time to get it back. That element of her kit feels pretty shitty.
I was playing rein and i pinned, soloshatter with a direct hit, double firestriked, pinned again, and their bastion didnt die
Imagine having Flats and Seagull as your supports and still losing.
Love your content flats :)
Her name is pronounced ee-YAH-ree
hey flats, i love your vids man
so cool.
PRAISE THE SUN… wait wrong game
Hit ‘‘em with the sun!
lol ilari healing + biotic grenade is enough to out heal a hanzo ult, combo = 180 hps and dragons is 150dps
Illari patch idea: nerf canon heal per second. Buff main gun heal range.
Illari just reminds me of furia from paladins
she seems so fun to play but i just can’t justify giving blizzard my money for a hero. sticking to playing her in no limits for now
She’s not available in ranked anyway. You ain’t missing anything yet.
I’m not sure why so many ppl have a hard time figuring out Flashpoint. I play with so many ppl that have no idea what to do. Its just 2CP to the max capacity for both sides at the same time.
Im so happy supports are getting another hitscan
No, THE SUN IS A DEADLY LAZER
and they will not nerf it until a moment, since u need to be lvl 45 to get it or payes, devs are going to make a crazy op caractere to make ppl pay or losing until like 20hours in game to get it for free
Illary is the typical hero i have a lot of fun whe i use her but also a total pain in the ass when is my enemy
you must construct more pylons
Shes like the more skillful Moira has high dps and healing potential but you need more aiming and ability cycling
Yk, being a f2p player and not buying the battle pass, having to wait until level 45 to play her is kinda annoying I don't have enough time in my day to play and level up the battlepass quickly, im usually at level 45 by the mid season balance changes and by then the new hero probably has been nerfed into the ground. I never get to play them when they're fun
they really made a healing turret, these ppl just hate their playerbase man
it drives me nuts that flats will straight up take a 15 sec 1v1 and not heal his team, or even use his ability which PASSIVELY HEALS...
As I said over at Emongg's vid
The fact that Seagull trolled Emongg with the Tree was the same type of energy as when Emongg pulled Flats that one time on Hanzo and ruined the dragonstrike
and I'm here for it!
Who’s your editor? Whoever they are they are based and seems to like Nintendo music
PRAISE THE SUN !
I just don't like how you can't heal yourself with your own pilon
just like Baptiste's grenades
Your Pylon can heal you? Lol
What?
man they really dont know how to make a dps support without giving them absurd levels of healing do they... first kiriko, a """"dps"""" support that has similar healing numbers as ana and now illari who is the same. i want a dps support like zen, who has bad healing but high damage and good utility, not a support that only does major damage from headshots, or one that has a weird charge gimmick to lower their total DPS
Her ult can go through barriers
She’s just a dps in disguise as a support
Flats be like, i never feed. I am am an okay support. Erm look, looks is feeding and isn't a good support.
Sometimes it feel like a labyrinth, what if there was the arrow path that showed you the way to the point from wherever you are/spawn maybe less opacte too.
There is no way they nerfed zen and then brought this
High ground with pylon is busted
Can’t wait for people to start trying to cheat with her it’s going to be funny when they miss their healing
She's kinda op
Her ult charges too fast for what it is capable of doing (It's even annoying hearing her screaming the whole match). The turret has an unfair range and heals pretty much as much as Lifeweaver charging a 40 heal burst (the fire rate is basically the same). Definitely need a little nerf, maybe increasing the ult charge by 18% or even reducing the amount of time the gun can shot heals (because right now her gun heal is just a better version of Moira) and reduce the range of the turret or the life of it
I don’t get why people are crying over her being OP. She’s really not if you have bad aim she’s kinda just a healing bot and the ult can get countered pretty hard. I think she feels pretty balanced. DVA can confirm this.
Wait, when switching to Steam, none of my progress was saved...Is that a problem or that Is what should happen???
She is a whole dps
Shes way too OP
No one ever destroys her F-ing pylon even after wiping the team just allowing free heals
This is soooo true. They say she heals too much yet they won’t destroy her pylon.
Having a hitscan support that actually packs a solid punch is so refreshing to see. Also, the fact that her ult is purely based on damage and debuffs rather than heals/immortality is a nice touch. Illari has some solid potential
Yeah, the only other hutscan support is Baptiste, and sadly he doesnt pack a solid punch
Unless you use his ultimate
@@frank8917 Yeah. Bap has a nice weapon, but overall his heal methods, especially self-heal, is lacking. The pylons are really nice
Illari feels a lot more like a dps than a support hero...
I love how this season is all about the PVE yet Nintendo, switch players and Xbox players can’t even buy it because of a glitch💀
What glitch? I bought it and I’m on Xbox.
I build in nintendo switch with 1 dolar
Who tf playing overwatch on the damn switch
As a lifeweaver player I have to say I have ruined a few ults. My friends love/hate me because I have saved them as often as I have cucked them.
Powerceep at its finest she makes the game so much less fun when you don't run her.
What you think of the character flats?
Illari's healing and ult are good, its just her DPS sucks so much
ult is just raze from val wtf
Does Illari's melee do same damage as a Basic Melee attack?
Ye
Emongg deception
Bro... is one of her challenges to be the last one standing in a quadruple kill on her own team? The devs would be brutal for that
Flats why do you still play this game if you don’t really enjoy it at heart anymore? Blizzard has really nailed the game in the coffin for good
She’s basically a better Moira. No utility besides healing and damage. But unlike Moira, Illari actually does damage.
Wait Illari was in overwatch 1?
What's that code for?