@@NobleNoob356 I toured PPI (where they built the trucks) in 1993. They were fully custom vehicles at that point. At that time, the 3 CNC mills I saw were incredibly high-tech to my high school mind. That was three years later, but the truck from 1990 looks pretty similar in capabilities
This was back when you could just go and buy a chassis for a few grand, buy a few suspension parts, complete your car with a used VW, put it all together and go racing. You couldn't compete with factory or big sponsor teams but you could go racing and have the experience without breaking the bank. You can still kind of do that, there are affordable classes but in 88 and 89 I built a car for $2,500 +/- and towed it with my Camaro. Never won anything, never even came close but I was out there having fun and making memories.
This is one of the first things I remember seeing as a kid. I remember it blew my F-ing mind. This exact piece of footage too I never thought I'd stumble across it again.
This is crazy to see two of the few solo drivers that could navigate and traverse all this crazy unpredictable terrain without any assistance but some pre running and maps(on paper) and then they've got a helicopter distracting them to talk about a real iron man and the king a baja.
Ivan said gloves don't let you feel the handle of the vehicle on the terrain while racing ,. 🤔 stands to reason , Ivan is like the old man on the sea , in dirt...💪💎🎯☯️👍
Buy a can am x3 and get someone to build you fiberglass fenders to make it look like it. Would be a cool kit. His truck is 80" by 120" track/base so you can get something similar.
@@ericksanchez7787 no way. Cheap truck with enough suspension to compete with a stock $25k 72” x3 is going to cost you more. You need a lot more shock for a truck... probably spend half the x3’s cost on coil carriers and bypasses. Plus you need a cage, actual suspension parts. Then you have a limited travel 4wd or a long travel 2wd. Can’t rock crawl with it, and if you crash you’re SOL. . That’s not even considering cost of maintenance and repairs. . Look at the Baja 1000 times. Sxs are killing it and getting pretty close to what class 1 can do. Which isn’t surprising. Speed UTT will be a 2000 lbs 300hp with 25” of travel and 4wd for low $30k.
@@KTMcaptain yeah sxs are very versatile but but what's more satisfying a sxs that anybody can buy if they have enough money or a custom build prerunner that you can really claim as your own
@@ericksanchez7787 I get what you’re saying, but that’s a huge headache. With all that extra mass you need bigger and better components. With a sxs you already know what works, what failure points exist, and have tons of aftermarket support.
I recall in the 1994 Baja 1000 Robby Gordon and Rob McCracken on those big Ford Trucksthey weren't so technological, basically an 8 class running as a Trophy teuck...but God! How fast and noisy they were!!! Spectacular both!
I raced 94 baja in class 8 torch ford . We had to keep stock design by rules leaf spring rear coil spring front no trailing arms coil overs ect. We had 16 inches of travel and 500 hp. Trophy trucks were pushing 20 in front 26 rear with 750 hp.trailing arms covers ect. Our 8 truck is not even a decent prerunner today
Mc Cachren raced Nye's Ford prototype nascar style truck later progressive set up was fast Rob handled her like a dream in the rough., Laughlin desert challenge...
And in this Baja 500, Robby won overall with a restricted class 8 Ford truck compared to the unlimited (and nearly limitlessly funded) Toyota. That was a fun day!
Roughly 97-98? Yup, they started winning again. I believe 1998 was a grand series sweep, a feat that was completed back in 1993 where this very truck we’re watching on this footage finished over an hour ahead of 2nd place and even beat the motorcycles. Crazy what even the V6 here was able to do with the right pace and the right conditions.
I don’t know seen rich boys with their would be over 200k trophy trucks recently and they are slow as shit. Toyota was doing well over 100 mph off road specially with Stewart.
I was an IvanIronMan fan when I had a Toyota . I still amfor his of road skilland ability tobe Iron Man. Then I needed a new truck and waswisely told by raceteams to go with a TTB Broncoto build it. It took a lotof work and some money for some good parts like the King shocks! A friend from HS who wasin my Auto shop with MR NOLAN raced and made kits for the TTB Bronco and I wentwith it. Long Travel (more thanaRaptor) with 4wheel drive grared and locked doesgreat. I was blown away when at Pismo my first time with a surprise goingup thebig dune you see inland from thewaterkeeping the peddle downto make it up. I was suddenly6 or 8 feet off thesand I think. Happy I landed at the right angle onthe landing andthanks toBrett King for thesoft landing I made it to the bottom of the razer and backonthegas when headingup again. I madeit alllthe wayup. I wentback downtoourtrailer we rented andtook mywife nowto take some pics. Then aguy on aquad rolled up andaskedifI could helphisfriend out ofabowl. I saidI can try lead thewaythere. Hedid andI winchedhim out. It broke thetires bead off the front rim on oneside and I crawleda easier way out and up the beach to thetrailer. My CO2 tank got it back onand aired up some. Good times andhappyit did sowell with the stock 302. Lockershelp a lot. I have used the good mans expertise wyth Ford Motors a man named Greg Gosset from Total Performance andcan not wait to see how it doesthere now. It struggledalittle gettingover the big dune out back for power but should not bean issue now. I wasandam very happy I GOT THAT GUYSTRUCK OUT OF THEBOWL TOO.TREATOTHERSAS YOU WOULDLIKETO BE TREATED WITHIN REASON TOMAKETHE WORLD A BETTER PLACE! tHERE ISALOT OF MESSED UP STUFF AND GOD HAS SO MUCH WORKON HIS LIST1 Be safeqnd havefun.
lol Yea, on occasion people got lost back then. Correction: Back then, I got lost on occasion. lol One year, If memory serves it was the Mint 400, some ranchers didn't want the race going through some areas so they put up signs that said "Radiation Hazzard" Then several people ended up going way off course.
Si ver en la cavina de este video beran que es un pequeño piloto el. Mas velos no sera garlic jr. Piensa en eso robby gordon yo vivia en vegas en la suite presidensial del cesar palace de 1978th a 1980 por eso no ganavas la baja rob i am the one yo era el unico mexicano usando motores porche en wasibe cuarto de milla safary 4 cilindros
Quiero un trophy new one marlboro honda con todo el equipo formulauno v12 o dos trophys one for me and onefor you tuve este sueño ase muchos años con mi papa don Alfonse Gabriel Alcapone pero tu saves el negosio es primero por eso i drive some times
Umm..why Stewart seems to drive in a conservative way? Like he doesn't want to brake the truck. I have seen footage of Sebastien Loeb and Walter Röhrl driving styles and look more aggressive than Stewart. Perhaps it's just optical illusion.
Because he drove alone you have to play it smart you really have no one especially at night anything can happen and your done plus maintaining longevity was better on equipment the truck was also very simply designed for ease of repair and Toyota didn’t have a v8 Ivan was competing with the big dogs with a high output 4 then 6 😂
@@joeyemmert3519 horsepower to weight ratio was still quite a phenom , of the time this defeat prompted Toyota to up the ante for a V8 power powerplant , new generation trophy truck...🤔✌️💪👍☯️
I miss this era of ... everything.
What a beautiful, legendary truck!!
This is incredible. No fancy GPS no crazy radios no CAD assisted and generated suspensions. Just a man a machine and the terrain.
Andrew B. And some money
Andrew B. A family member race him he would race only the people that didn’t have enough money as he did
@@Blue_Bayou_Hixthis is the fact
I almost guarantee they were using CAD designed chassis and shocks.
@@NobleNoob356 I toured PPI (where they built the trucks) in 1993. They were fully custom vehicles at that point. At that time, the 3 CNC mills I saw were incredibly high-tech to my high school mind. That was three years later, but the truck from 1990 looks pretty similar in capabilities
This was back when you could just go and buy a chassis for a few grand, buy a few suspension parts, complete your car with a used VW, put it all together and go racing.
You couldn't compete with factory or big sponsor teams but you could go racing and have the experience without breaking the bank.
You can still kind of do that, there are affordable classes but in 88 and 89 I built a car for $2,500 +/- and towed it with my Camaro. Never won anything, never even came close but I was out there having fun and making memories.
This is one of the first things I remember seeing as a kid. I remember it blew my F-ing mind. This exact piece of footage too I never thought I'd stumble across it again.
This is crazy to see two of the few solo drivers that could navigate and traverse all this crazy unpredictable terrain without any assistance but some pre running and maps(on paper) and then they've got a helicopter distracting them to talk about a real iron man and the king a baja.
Grew up loving that truck
Ditto.
Gordon's truck looks quick, even by today's standards. 24:18 - 25:03 is what Baja's all about!
I was like holy cow he's racing on the beach!
Wow so awesome please post more videos like this .
Awesome vid thanks for posting 👍🏻
The perfect combination, best driver and best truck.
I'm more of a Ford f-150 kinda guy
wow nearly 30 years- love it thanx
Straight side shifted that mud pit. God like movement
thanks for the posting... amazing video, that toyota truck was the formula 1 of trucks
Min 8:15 ... ripping it with no gloves....just how a legend does it.....
I've seen footage of Robby when he was 19 and 20 with no gloves.
Ivan said gloves don't let you feel the handle of the vehicle on the terrain while racing ,. 🤔 stands to reason , Ivan is like the old man on the sea , in dirt...💪💎🎯☯️👍
8:15 is a fantastic shot! You can see him wrenching at the wheel
I never wanted to go mudding, I always wanted to do this or the Iditarod growing up....Those are races.
As I recall Ivan was running in class 1 unlimited single seaters.. Truck prepared by PPI in Downey..
Garden Grove.
Ya that truck is timeless i still want it jus like wen i was a lil kid
Buy a can am x3 and get someone to build you fiberglass fenders to make it look like it. Would be a cool kit. His truck is 80" by 120" track/base so you can get something similar.
@@KTMcaptain or buy a cheap truck and put long travel suspension and make it a prerunner it could be cheaper in total than just a can am x3
@@ericksanchez7787 no way. Cheap truck with enough suspension to compete with a stock $25k 72” x3 is going to cost you more. You need a lot more shock for a truck... probably spend half the x3’s cost on coil carriers and bypasses. Plus you need a cage, actual suspension parts. Then you have a limited travel 4wd or a long travel 2wd. Can’t rock crawl with it, and if you crash you’re SOL.
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That’s not even considering cost of maintenance and repairs.
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Look at the Baja 1000 times. Sxs are killing it and getting pretty close to what class 1 can do. Which isn’t surprising. Speed UTT will be a 2000 lbs 300hp with 25” of travel and 4wd for low $30k.
@@KTMcaptain yeah sxs are very versatile but but what's more satisfying a sxs that anybody can buy if they have enough money or a custom build prerunner that you can really claim as your own
@@ericksanchez7787 I get what you’re saying, but that’s a huge headache. With all that extra mass you need bigger and better components. With a sxs you already know what works, what failure points exist, and have tons of aftermarket support.
I recall in the 1994 Baja 1000 Robby Gordon and Rob McCracken on those big Ford Trucksthey weren't so technological, basically an 8 class running as a Trophy teuck...but God! How fast and noisy they were!!! Spectacular both!
I raced 94 baja in class 8 torch ford . We had to keep stock design by rules leaf spring rear coil spring front no trailing arms coil overs ect. We had 16 inches of travel and 500 hp. Trophy trucks were pushing 20 in front 26 rear with 750 hp.trailing arms covers ect. Our 8 truck is not even a decent prerunner today
Torco
Mc Cachren raced Nye's Ford prototype nascar style truck later progressive set up was fast Rob handled her like a dream in the rough., Laughlin desert challenge...
And in this Baja 500, Robby won overall with a restricted class 8 Ford truck compared to the unlimited (and nearly limitlessly funded) Toyota. That was a fun day!
I bet the new Ford Raptor could not keep up to this old 1990 Toyota truck today.
No way a new stock raptor could hang w/ that older yota
After that they came out with the new V8 new generation Toyota with different paint scheme to combat Ford and Chevy ....🤔👍☝️✌️💪
Roughly 97-98? Yup, they started winning again. I believe 1998 was a grand series sweep, a feat that was completed back in 1993 where this very truck we’re watching on this footage finished over an hour ahead of 2nd place and even beat the motorcycles. Crazy what even the V6 here was able to do with the right pace and the right conditions.
Ivan....haulin' ass like a mf! Iron Man!
Just got out muscled on the top end of Gordon's V8... Not out droved by a dam sight... 🤔✌️🙏💪☯️
28 YEARS AGO ?????????
30 years ago now! IKR!
Qué video tan chingón 👍👍👍
Just like you 😉
Iron Man...Period!
The suspension has developed a lot in recent decades!
I don’t know seen rich boys with their would be over 200k trophy trucks recently and they are slow as shit.
Toyota was doing well over 100 mph off road specially with Stewart.
Lots of fond memories though the early 1990's!
26:23 26:24
Robby's line.
Only Ivan Stewart could give an interview, MID RACE, while racing the Baja ALONE 😂😂
Good times
Good truk motor and years
The Best
"If your'e not first your'e last"
Que carreras de esos años
Rory, How's the new restro going? Stay Classy
Style points go to Gordon, man he could unleash the trailer with that Ford.
Vieron manejaba sin guantes alm ese es mi idolo
I was an IvanIronMan fan when I had a Toyota . I still amfor his of road skilland ability tobe Iron Man. Then I needed a new truck and waswisely told by raceteams to go with a TTB Broncoto build it. It took a lotof work and some money for some good parts like the King shocks! A friend from HS who wasin my Auto shop with MR NOLAN raced and made kits for the TTB Bronco and I wentwith it. Long Travel (more thanaRaptor) with 4wheel drive grared and locked doesgreat. I was blown away when at Pismo my first time with a surprise goingup thebig dune you see inland from thewaterkeeping the peddle downto make it up. I was suddenly6 or 8 feet off thesand I think. Happy I landed at the right angle onthe landing andthanks toBrett King for thesoft landing I made it to the bottom of the razer and backonthegas when headingup again. I madeit alllthe wayup. I wentback downtoourtrailer we rented andtook mywife nowto take some pics. Then aguy on aquad rolled up andaskedifI could helphisfriend out ofabowl. I saidI can try lead thewaythere. Hedid andI winchedhim out. It broke thetires bead off the front rim on oneside and I crawleda easier way out and up the beach to thetrailer. My CO2 tank got it back onand aired up some. Good times andhappyit did sowell with the stock 302. Lockershelp a lot. I have used the good mans expertise wyth Ford Motors a man named Greg Gosset from Total Performance andcan not wait to see how it doesthere now. It struggledalittle gettingover the big dune out back for power but should not bean issue now. I wasandam very happy I GOT THAT GUYSTRUCK OUT OF THEBOWL TOO.TREATOTHERSAS YOU WOULDLIKETO BE TREATED WITHIN REASON TOMAKETHE WORLD A BETTER PLACE! tHERE ISALOT OF MESSED UP STUFF AND GOD HAS SO MUCH WORKON HIS LIST1 Be safeqnd havefun.
Oh and that would be Ivan the "Iron man" Stewart.
Riding on the ranch, to the desert.
26:25 could have gone bad if he was going slower
😻
😮😮😮
Rock whoops weren't as big way back then.
Well, when you get busted for smuggling drugs on the water, you need a new avenue. LOL
I didn't see one course marker, lol. Leaves plenty of room for, "interpretation". :)
lol Yea, on occasion people got lost back then.
Correction:
Back then, I got lost on occasion.
lol One year, If memory serves it was the Mint 400, some ranchers didn't want the race going through some areas so they put up signs that said "Radiation Hazzard" Then several people ended up going way off course.
Si ver en la cavina de este video beran que es un pequeño piloto el. Mas velos no sera garlic jr. Piensa en eso robby gordon yo vivia en vegas en la suite presidensial del cesar palace de 1978th a 1980 por eso no ganavas la baja rob i am the one yo era el unico mexicano usando motores porche en wasibe cuarto de milla safary 4 cilindros
that truck can do a 140 mph
Forza Horizon 5 sent me here. Who else?
The fact ik gary stewart his son
Quiero un trophy new one marlboro honda con todo el equipo formulauno v12 o dos trophys one for me and onefor you tuve este sueño ase muchos años con mi papa don Alfonse Gabriel Alcapone pero tu saves el negosio es primero por eso i drive some times
Nesesito tu ayuda para encontrar a mis socios en vegas. O a mi mama
Como los perdiste
V6 vs v8
Ivan concord baja
Toyota, very goog otfros speer rarly
Umm..why Stewart seems to drive in a conservative way? Like he doesn't want to brake the truck. I have seen footage of Sebastien Loeb and Walter Röhrl driving styles and look more aggressive than Stewart. Perhaps it's just optical illusion.
Sounds right.
Because he drove alone you have to play it smart you really have no one especially at night anything can happen and your done plus maintaining longevity was better on equipment the truck was also very simply designed for ease of repair and Toyota didn’t have a v8 Ivan was competing with the big dogs with a high output 4 then 6 😂
Thus the reason for the single seat was to make up the motor for the weight and kept it as a short course style chassis
Makes sense.
@@joeyemmert3519 horsepower to weight ratio was still quite a phenom , of the time this defeat prompted Toyota to up the ante for a V8 power powerplant , new generation trophy truck...🤔✌️💪👍☯️
Too slow than pajero or Nissan frontier