Referees Reverse Touchdown Call During High School Football Game
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- Referees Reverse Touchdown Call During High School Football Game
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"Play clean!" immediately followed by "Kill somebody!!" Just great.
Stephen Malacaria it's football.......kinda how u play
The only thing the referee did wrong was signal a change of possession before checking with both flanks. But what he did right was correct himself and make the right call. They are human and can make mistakes, but the ref did not let his ego get in the way of fixing it and getting it right. Good job.
Good analysis!
Look at it again.
He actually did check with both flanks first.
As a matter of fact he said the umpire overruled him when talking to the coach. The umpire would never be in a proper position to make that call.
Good job. I am a sports official for High school sports
@@scwimberly81 He only looked at one.
R must have been a Back Judge before donning a white hat. Every U and wing knows you have to pinch and make sure the runner maintained possession before making a call.
Yes - This was their way of reviewing the cll just as the NFL does...The coach should never be on any field again...
I will talk to the head coach and explain the situation. Keep your assistants quiet. Why is an assistant calling time out?
Matt Moehring because the ref didn’t hear the head coach. But it was still awful behavior
Probably because I believe the coach was ejected (2:10).
If you don't like playing the game with these officials, just give it a few years until you have no officials...
This explains why Texas' lacking refs
Wednesday night lights,! Lol
Funny World! Isn’t aka! Bring rain my feed my dash! It’s bling!
One bad call can never cost you a game it takes a lot more than that
So much class on display here
There was a gaffe in communication somewhere there, given the ref had already signaled 1st down.
Probably should have been coaching up the kick return team rather than acting hysterical
These coaches are an embarassment! They should have been flagged and ejected long before they were!
Why didn't the wing official keep the coaches 3 yd off the sideline, as required by NFHS rules? The official should not have been on the field-should have been behind sideline, and coaches/teams behind him. Coaches on field as many times as they were should have drawn a foul(s), also. By not flagging that at the beginning, it intensified the problem later on.
Ed Day yes, but as soon as that first coach goes running out there flailing his arms he should have been banged for an unsportsmanlike. This is way beyond sideline control and sideline warning matters.
Bad job by this coaching staff when it was time to coach you were still crying.
WTF blaming your loss on refs... terrible coaching. When I wrestled in high school we were a top school in the state of PA so we were a high target. Whenever we got screwed with bad calls, our coach said you fought hard but did not get the extra points we needed. Come back and fight harder next match.
John Doe 👍
Sounds like you went to a horrible place
with this angle we cant see where the ball is fully. if the td was the correct call. good if it wasnt someone messed up
Way should Girard not be upset after he made the call pont that there ball it on them he look short to me then they just went flb a game thay did not earn
I love the the flag and the “there ya go”
"there ya go" official is an embarrassment to refs everywhere
Zac Grant Aviation why? The coach deserved the flag. He approached the linesman multiple times and went too far onto the field when he shouldn’t have
@@tigerguy1013 I have zero problem with the flag. Throw the flag for UNS, but there is no need for the smart comment as you do so. Also, the coach should've been flagged the prior 3x he went onto the field. No reason he was still in the game at that point.
@@zgaviation6481 to be fair, I’ve been in his position with a call that wasn’t mine and coaches yelling at me and yes it’s said to keep your cool but it’s incredibly possible that he had had enough. And I agree with you that he should’ve been popped well before. In fact there should’ve only been two flags:
Flag 1) running onto the field after the TD
Flag 2) following the LJ onto the field (DQ)
Holy s???! Aka!
The referee didn’t see the ball across where the headlines man did while he was still digging to find the ball so he possibly didn’t see the white signal red ball. Granted maybe the white hat should’ve waited a bit more to signal but you can reverse the call if needed. It’s like my crew says before a game, slow, slow, and slower
Unsportsmanlike conduct on the head coach
Um...can you say coaches with no class? Pathetic display, really. Flags should have come much sooner.
Completely agree
The Head Coach should be ashamed of the way he acted. His actions got the team all riled up and they gave up an onside kick and ultimately lost the game. Head Coach gotta do a better job
Educational experience. I think not.
Whichever one of those guys is the assistant, he should have gotten tossed.
awful display of coaching ….
favourism blue and white
We lost a game in the last seconds,had a bad call and the other team scored when it looked like the guy ran out of bounds. Our coach wasn't pissed about that. He said it was a hard loss, but he was more upset about the mistakes we made during the whole game. We should have scored three more touchdowns, but hard to score when you fumble several times. Just saying coach was more upset with the way we played than loosing on what might have been a bad call. He kinda gave us a "well you guys did this to yourself " speech after the game.
Sounds like a good coach to me!
@tim coker i’ve been the referee of one of those situations. Visiting team wasn’t able to get anything productive. They had like 4 3and outs in the first half. They were down 20 to 6 after 3 quarters. That team wound up tying the game. Recovered an unexpected onside kick and had a chance to score. Very first play, quarterback is under pressure and throws the ball backwards and the defense picks it up and runs an extra 20 yards . He was trying to get me and the other referee in the area to call an intentional grounding. The ball was at the 20 yard line and the pass ended at the 25 yard line on the short side of the field. I told him my car was final. Then proceeds to say “God dammit ref to my face.” So we added another 15 yard penalty to the end of the play plus another 15 for assistant Coach coming onto the field to complain. I wasn’t happy with the sideline because we called the sideline warning to plays into the game because they were honestly in my ear tell me who was eligible who was ineligible for the other team and I told them to back off. Head coach wasn’t happy about that. Than late in the game, the game is tied at 26 with the home team going for two. Home team did not have a field goal kicker. They ran like a jailbreak formation play. Quarterback is under pressure and throws the ball that is tipped on the release, ball is up in the air in the end zone defender attempts to catch it however it bounces off his face mask and into the hands of the center. Same assistant coach comes on to argue the play and actually makes contact with me to where he is ejected. Since the ball was tipped, that meant that anyone on the field at the time was allowed to catch it regardless of their eligibility. Coach knew the rule and actually lost the game because of that play. The next day I got an email from Coach saying that he was sorry for the way his sideline acted. He also told me that the assistant coach that was thrown out was kicked off the coaching staff which turned out to be the quarterbacks dad.
So why play a sports you don’t care about
officials can correct a call prior to the next series. They did it right.
You can tell this from this video? Really?
alas jajo I thought u couldn't in high school because there is no replay
@@jesss9726 you are correct and to add to that a consultation with the line judges had already taken place.
Did they suddenly remember something that happened minutes later?
@@jesss9726 this video was so long ago, not sure if any states used replay but that is moot. The officials, before the ball is blown ready for play can correct the call.
@@philliprunge the procedure was right... I didn't say anything about the call being correct.
They can’t reverse a call they don’t have cameras i
The ref did the right thing if they really scored
Max Friedman It doesn't look like it, but most players keep moving their legs in a pile. So he could have not made it, but he could have moved a yard after. A lot of things can happen in a pile.
There was a bit of a communication breakdown on that play. The white hat signaled for a turnover on downs before he knew for sure what his wing had. Even if the call was correct, it looked bad, and it created the issues with the red coaching staff.
Way to place the blame on the refs. Live with the call. And yes coach, you can reverse the call.
and why is that Max? Wing official said it was.
How can you tell if he did or did not get in? The head linesman had the best view and he signaled TD. Got to go with that call. Did you have another camera angle from the other side? Now if you want to tell me the head official was too soon with his first down call, I'll agree with you. But video analysis??? No way you or anyone else can tell from this view. By the way, it's a moot point. There is no replay in HS football. Reverse call stands and there should have been at least 2 Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalties against the red team.
When you’re a ref, you can’t make that call unless you’re a 100% sure. Of course everyone’s going to get mad, you change your call. Makes it seem like you’re not sure.
I have never seen a call reversed like that in a game without instant replay technology! Wow that’s is screwed up!
I'll give the refs credit for letting the coaches get their money's worth after the call was reversed. They knew they were frustrated and just let them go. They also felt they should've had the call right the first time. But the coaches just continued and enough was enough.
Bad coaching Seriously way to NOT set the example.
That ref did a super solid job keeping calm.
I’m just surprised why that assistant coach who ran out on the field, ran at the line judge and screamed “it’s a timeout” wasn’t flagged earlier. I would’ve said “who are you? You’re not the head coach so button it”
First off, the referee had no other choice but to keep calm bc he completely blew that.
1. The head referee signaled 1st down the other way after ALREADY consulting the line judges. The umpire has no angle to know if the ball crossed the plain of the goal line from behind the LOS.
2. If the HR already consulted both line judges, why were they then able to change their decision after the call had already been made?
3. Referees tell you to run to them to signal timeout in a late game situation. If they had already messed up, chances are they arent looking to hear from that sideline if they dont have to.
4. That officiating crew is lucky that didnt turn uglier because that reeked of bias or fixing. Especially because the change happened after a consultation and firm decision to begin with.
Happens every Friday night. It was your turn. Refs can Rev and Rev again.
There’s only one Referee, the official with the white hat.
What’s your point? (Not saying that in a jerk tone)
How in the world did the referees allow these coaches to come on the field to argue any call? The white hat should have consulted with the linesman before signaling a touchdown or not a touchdown. Ref did a great job of staying calm, but every coach who ran onto the field to argue a call should at least be immediately kicked out of the game and suspended by the high school association.. The coach should also be ashamed f himself for telling his team "we got screwed". Poor sportsmanship on his part.
You don’t play sports do you
Another life lesson from sports. Life is not always fair in fact it seldom is. learn to deal with that as disappointing as it is. Also officials are human and make mistakes. sometimes you leave the field or the court and know you blew a call but most are not reversible errors. It is a bad feeling to blow a call. it is also very frustrating as a player or coach to have a ref who is not good at it and frankly some officials are terrible but part of the game still involves respect and sportsmanship, Tell your players i know they are not calling fouls on the other team but still play your game. Do you best to take it out of the hands of the officials and work as hard as you can.
I blue 1 inadvertant whistle in my career and was devistated about it. We have feelings but things like that can not be fixed. If it happens you can not believe how bad we feel.
One, this is why I don’t ref and two, why I tell my players to play and let me worry about speaking up..... we’re all human
I know this game was in 2012, but the way these coaches act is still happening today. They get far to emotional during games. Hearing them yell: "I don't care" at the officials tells me they have no regard for the rules. Their presence on the field, when they know the rule is to remain on the sidelines except during a time out, is proof that they do not respect the game.
I have worked sidelines with coaches like this. This is the kind of thing that is ruining the game and running off good officials. There are three teams out there, and we all need to respect them all.
A major part of thos problem is little or no accountability for officiating crews
Many of them are verbally abusive and hide behind the stripes. Many actually do not even understand the game they officiate.
Are there some who are excellent at it? Yes. Excellent doesnt mean they always get it right either. But they can always explain why or apologize for not doing so and the game can go on. That is officiating. Some of these guys just need a check and thats a sad fact.
Accountability for HS officials? What do you want to do, fire them? The next group will be less experienced. These coaches seems more concerned with getting the call they wanted rather than the right call.
@@mikemorgan4304 this is funny ! As I sit here and block dates out on my schedule. They are running off good officials
@@mikemorgan4304 player are the coaches are why not the refs
When the players are acting more mature than the coaches says a lot
@K lake but still, you’re older than everyone, you’re supposed to set an example for them
@@tigerguy1013 which they did
Where is the flag?????
Are these guys educators too?????
Crybaby coaches. The officials should have flagged them before they did.
What this was is that he signaled when he shouldn't have! Should have waited until the Wings confirmed it! The Coaches should have had the laundry tossed at them but at least he did tell the Coaches what happened! I wonder who ended up winning the game?
so here we go again... wing guys closed hard enough umpire is in the mix,wings are observing...If Referee saw ball on the ground? and not past the LTG/ goaline...he did the right thing...if he guessed? then he really screwed the pooch. The wing guy ...finnaly sees the ball over the goalline...??? I would rather see a unified call instead of the lone wolf thing he did...perhaps he didnt see the WH signal the otherway?
was there ANYverbalization here???...mat this never happen to you...and please be ready to eat a truck load of crap when do tis to a team....
THANK YOU
The referee was a little to quick on his initial signal and crew should have been clear on the touchdown call; but you must get the call right. Certainly the referee knew this and did this. The coach was lucky he was not ejected and the referee handled it well.
The Coach was ejected.
the coaches are the only ones to blame there. they took there team out of the game
this video does neither the coach or the officials any good. boo.
2:06 I would’ve flagged the coach for coming that far out onto field near me. Plus that’s not the head coach, he’s got no business speaking to the ref about whatever he was mad about that time
refs made the original call awfully quick
That’s what I’ve been saying. I’ve been a high school official for 7 years and every white hat I work with says the same thing when it comes to stuff like this “slow, slow and slower”
ive seen some genius officials we have replacement refs of replacement refs it feels like in this area. ehen i was a senior we had a team score on us with 2 minutes left in the game and tried for the 2pt and got stuffed about the 15 yard line. one ref blew it dead and that kid gets up and walks it into the endzone with players from both teams running off the field and the main ref called it good. we all called that ref a fucking cheater that game. our coach basically said the exact same thing this guy said. its bullshit how those guys act and call games.
The coach that his team is on defense he should of been gone from the game
Hman Bman if you’re talking about the coach who called the first timeout and yelled “it’s a timeout!” I 100% agree, he ran onto the field multiple times and threw his headset. I’ve had something similar happen to me and I threw my flag then two seconds later my hat
People defending the officials on here have obviously never coached a down. They made the call, the kids were virtually off the field, then they changed it. An abortion of officiating and HS officials are the worst because they aren’t held accountable. At least in college your crew can be suspended and cost you Bowl opportunities. The only thing the coach missed was that he should have called timeout....then unloaded on them and forced them to either take it or flag him. Then you make sure they never set foot on your field again.
Whats funny to me after reading these comments is everyone who is so quick to want to offer their PC sentiments.
The same official that the head referee conferred with before he signaled COP is the same one that later said TD.
There was something seriously wrong with that and unfortunately I can say it is not the first nor 100th time I've seen it on a HS field.
The true problem with these situations is the fact that it is allowed to continue.
I think the Ref's relized that they had to make sure there HOME town boys won plan and simple. I've been to those kinda games and Refs Do that stupid shit all the time. Ya you can reverse a call but at that point of the game and a game on the line! FUCK THAT! Ref totally screwed up!
Considering that the home team usually wears the darker colors in high-school football, it looks like the home team lost this game.
Jeff Otterby, this was a crazy situation. No coaches should come on to the field that far for sure.
These two coaches though are great for the kids. They do have class, contrary to what this video shows.
They did call a touchdown then took it away. This game was for a spot in the playoffs too, not that excuses what they did, but these guys are good people, and good coaches for sure.
I agree! But the thing is why would he make one call then reverse it? I would be just like those coaches and go ballistic. I hope that the PIAA suspended the crew.
Todd Hogg : maybe we would've heard why he would reverse the call of the coach wasn't throwing a hissy fit while the ref was trying to calmly give him an explanation.
Who knows but that said they still screwed up! And as an official we have to be accountable for the mistakes we make!
If they have class, why aren't they calm about it....I haven t seen one coach on the sideline controlling their bench nor controlling their fellow coaches
When you really have class, it shows in situations like this. The coaches wearing red are awful human beings and terrible role models for those kids. While there is no replay, the refs made the correct call in reversing the decision before a new play was snapped. Right call or wrong call there is NO excuse to act like this on the sideline.
I played as a DB in my senior year.I got a concussion on field from a helmet to helmet by some idiot receiver who purposely put his head into mine every play. Played as return and was good in my league so they’d shadow me. On my last play when he hit me in the head it happened in front of the ref and I was injured so bad I got carried off in a stretcher, kid nearly broke my neck and I went home with severe whiplash and a major concussion without my vision for about an hour. No call on the play, no penalty, no ejection. Nothing. The refs in high school leagues are pieces of shit.
Been saying it for years...they are disgusting at times
welcome to high school football where the refs mak the game 80% of the time. Especially when your the away team. been there a hundred times.
baseball about the same story
The White Hat completely screwed everyone...so what follows now requires a HUGE EXPLANATION...and again the White Hat screws the Red Team coaches by not COMPLETELY explaining the situation...seems to me Red did a remarkable job maintaining composure... 1 Wing guy had stones to finish calling the play, finding the ball then signaled...too bad Ref already "decided" what happened
I think that wing guy should have come in harder with his touchdown call, too. The R on this crew was too quick with his call, I think, but the wing needed to come in, as I like to say, with his hair on fire with the touchdown call. My 2 cents.
The refs really blew that game.
Oh bite me as there was no video evidence.
One question, did this game get protested or appealed?
Pretty sure Girard tried to appeal, don't think it worked out too well for them...
no protests are observed by PIAA
In my state appeals and/or protests are accepted but almost never never neerr applied.
What would they be protesting? There is no evidence whatsoever to show that the kid scored or got stopped. The refs got together and changed the call. What's the big deal? I would rather a ref make a wrong call, but get together with his team of officials and discuss it to get it right. It looks like the refs did the right thing here. The red coaches however are about as disgraceful as it gets. And the head coach is just an idiot. A 105 pound idiot.