Training in low stances is meant to strengthen your legs and improve your overall mobility. Any sensible karateka knows you're not going to use your deepest stances in sparing or a street fight. But that your legs will be ready because they're used to being trained in a more stressful manner. Sigh i feel sorry for mainland karate sometimes.
@MarginalSC running is actually bad for your body. One of the least efficient means of cardio as well. Also, simply running doesn't develop the mobility one aquires from years of training deep stance movements.
@@MarginalSC agility drills, plyometrics exercises, ballistic exercises, mobility and stability training, strength training. I am not saying deep stances are useless because they do train stability in a lengthened state which is ignored in many sports, but it is definitely overused in karate and that is the most important part. Your training needs to be well balanced.
I still have to follow my sensei instructions to the letter and do long stances, but will 100% keep these notions in mind, glad to know I wasn't the only one thinking longer stances weren't as practical for quick movement and to draw strength as shorter stances.
Thank you for this video. This makes a lot of sense that it is the old way here to use a shorter stance. I noticed my Goju Ryu teacher in Japan used a much shorter stance than what I would see in videos, and then I found a video of his teacher, Tadahiko Ohtsuka, who was an OG karate nerd. He did a lot of adacemic study of karate. He trained in Okinawa and even learned some of the original wushu/tai chi chuan techniques from which the Okinawan forms originated. In those videos, I noticed his stances are all very fluid and his zenkutsu-dachi stance is much more like what you are showing, which explains how both he and my teacher move so much more fluidly since they aren't struggling to move forward out of this long stance!
I'm a kyokushin based karateka, and our variation of this stance is always relative to the practitioneer: shoulder width apart, and then step back two shoulder widths.
Long and or deep stances are not for standing (and punching) in them, they are "stills" of the moving sequence, and their meaning (in Goju-ryu kata) is usually throwing, disbalancing, grappling,... Moreover, I teach my students to use (move through) these long deep stances in training, because in a real fight, under stress, your moves will become shorter, and if you don't train long and deep, they may become inefficient. Whereas if you are used to make them long and deep, and you shorten them a bit, they would remain efficient enough.
By the title only, me as a Kung Fu guy, long stances are a must for throws applications. Long and low stances. But now I'm gonna wait your vision on the subject. Thanks
Throws, disbalancing, grappling,... all the parts virtually forgotten in modern sport oriented karate. Because we focus on self defense in my club, I teach my students long deep stances where it makes sense due to the bunkai of the move. Also because in real fight, under stress, your moves will usually become shorter than in training, so if you learn small moves, they would become inefficient, whereas if you learn big ones, they will become smaller, but still big enough to work.
@@jozef_chocholacek yes, not only that nowadays I see a lot of grappling styles that punish the knees for a throw or a grab. And I can do the same with long deep stances.
Being influenced as a young man, by an Okinawan style the longer stances were to be avoided in most cases. But in recent years it has been explained that; the Stance is a transitory snapshot of movement. Instead of Rooting before a punch, the punch started during movement and the front stance is the end of the technique (punch has landed). Thus forward momentum is part of the punch. Somewhat hard to explain in a text😅
Also long form stances are designed to strengthen the body as longer lower stances are more difficult. With time the karateka will be able to shorten stances with proper technique. Also long stances help the new student to stretch.
Same. I started Isshinryu in my early 20s. Got into Tang Soo Do in my 40s. I had a big falling out with my former Sah Bum Nim on the low stance/older body issue. I've since adapted and gone hybrid in my 60s.
Bingo. The stance is basically a Finishing move. You step through the OP.. striking at the end. Its seen this way, in arts like Shaolin Longfist, as well. You deflect the OPs attack, and since they are now at close range, you can step towards them as they try to retreat. However, since their step will be about the same speed as your advancement (maybe even slower / less distance)... and your punching arm will be extending even further... they typically wont be able to back away without getting hit. Also, because you are Dropping vertically as you are stepping forwards... it makes it much harder for the OP to potentially Counter you... as suddenly you far below the headstrike level, that they tried to strike you at. For extra safety, this is often also carried out with one arm sweeping upwards (over your head)... while the other is attacking forwards. The sweeping arm would be deflecting the OPs potential counterstrike.. and then continuing to protect ones head, while you are striking them with the other arm.
Many comments here about long/deep stances being for exercise training. I can see that. But that means you need to devote time to training in natural stances too. I agree that people tend to shorten their stances in the stress of adversity, but it's risky to assume that you will be proficient in coordinated quick movement in a natural stance if you don't deliberately cultivate the muscle memory through repetition.
With very few exceptions, the technique found in Kata are for very close range. When studying Bunkai and Looking for the technique, the hand on the hip (hikate) is there for a reason. Hikate is not always pulling to the hip, it can represent pulling down,across the chest or other pulling motions. Many of the positions in actual usage are represented by the hand on the hip. Consider that a Kata is a formalized representation of functional self defense techniques. The masters who created Kata understood that blocking a punch was very hard and blocking multiple punches are a losing proposition ⛩
When practicing Okinawan kobujutsu with the sai I was using long stances . My teacher then said " put it like this,you don't have long stances when you are walking".
Long stances are for training/basic (kihon) moves to strengthen you legs and helps to build cardio/muscle memory when practicing and performing kata; long stances are not for sparring or actual self defense training.
in aikido we practice suwari waza techniques which mimics fight on knees of samurais. the position called shikko one knee on surface, toes are perpendicular and grabbing mat and other leg lye on 90 degree. you have to be on balance in that position to stand up quickly. if you do right that is the position of normal stand up jujutsu stance, kamae. its valid for all traditional japanese martial arts. ty for share.
As a shotokan karateka, this should be the norm. Smaller stances aren’t just better for mobility, they’re better for creating stronger technique and internal connection for kinetic linkage. I suggest looking towards senseis Avi Rokah and Toru Shimoji. Affiliated with the WBKA (Avi’s federation and a Nishiyama heritage). I’ve been lucky to be practicing this type of movement and stance principles since I started training, and happy to say that karate has only ever helped my body, not hurt it.
I've always found that instructors demonstrate exaggerated longer stances to students, especially children, because children tend to shorten their stances anyway, probably because its more comfortable. 😃
As a Taekwondo guy I have the feeling that a Somewhat longer stance than the ones seen in competitions add springiness and power to your kicks, but the really wide and long ones, considered to be more "stable" hinder that.
@@KarateDojowaKu At the dojang they make me do exactly that stance with the rear leg straight. While in fact, the one you show, with the rear knee bent adds so much more jumping and kicking power! I found out this on my own, now seeing you advising the same is so cool 😊
I base techniques on whether or not they are functional for fighting. Long stances can be used for a transitional moment. i do not stay in them. The pulling hand hikite is a bad habit to form. The non striking hand has many better things to do than to be brought to the waist, like protecting your brain from being shut off.
I was always under the impression that low, long stances were used or strength and movement. In practical application (a fight), low stances might be a bad idea, but they train muscle memory, strength, and movement. That was never overtly stated, so maybe i was mistaken.
Those long stance also caues a lot shearing in the knee and banana knees. You can get a good leg workout with your knee lined up with your hip bone and ankle. Just practice lunge low and coming up in a way a boxer would to get more of a leg workout or do some flying knees. Even heard some shotokan Sensei's say that the short stance aren't athletic. Athleticism is literally being efficient in your movement so how would logn stwnce be more athletic?
Hello ✨😊 I have my Nidan grading in 4 weeks , I have been training hard .. But I am struggling with breath work during Kata and fast kihon drills . Can you please direct me to a video or make a video about that ? I love your videos , very helpful 🙏🏼❤
There is some Misunderstanding here. Long stances like this, are basically a "Finishing" move. Where you are at close range... Deflect the OPs strike, and step towards them with this stance... counter-striking. Since you have just deflected their strike... they realize that they are in trouble... but they dont have much time to react. They TRY to take a step backwards away from you... but you are already Deep-Stepping towards them + striking. So even IF they manage to get a single step backwards.. your strike will still be able to reach them. Otherwise, the stance can be a "Bait". The OP rushes inwards towards you, and you quickly shift back into a cat-stance. Or you can also go from a forwards stance, into a sidewards transition. I had fought against a dude that knew about 7 different arts. Most were Chinese arts. He knew arts like LongFist, as well as JKD. I never would have thought that low, long stances, would work in high speed sparring. He was in forwards stance... so I rushed towards him with a punch... and he transitioned to a cat stance, while deflecting my attack. Then, since I was very close to him... he took a deep step into a front horse stance, while launching a double palmstrike into me... launching me like 12 to 15ft away from him. He then explained about how the Shaolin principles work... about "Expansion and Contraction". Showing me various examples, similar to what just took place. A lot of these methods, are very Deceptive.
Hello ! I am from India and practice shotokan style. In shotokan longer stances are preferred more as it has its own advantages and while performing kata the player covers the whole tatami through long stance. My sensei tells me the length of the stance also matters on the height of the person . A short person making small stances will look attractive and effective whereas a tall person on the other hand would not look attractive and effective with short stances. Love from India❤️🇮🇳 ......and can u please make a video on breathing technique or how the kata players use and maintain their breath while performing. Especially in WKF. Thanx
I hate to be redundant, but are you ever going to cover Brandon Lee's movie, Rapid Fire." He was very impressive, smooth, and very fast. Thank you, Shito-Ryu Texas. Thank you for what you do!
Humm. I have very long legs and I was trained in ISKF/JKA Shotokan s a kid. Returning to Shotokan now, I default back to a long stance. I am having a hard time getting speed in my movements. My legs are not very strong as they are naturally thin. I wonder if this long stance and my lack of big strong legs is what is holding my speed back.
I like the misconception Videos, but I would also love, what you did here for some Minutes, more historical knowledge. It would be more free of styles, which makes it more easy content for certain styles beginners. P.s.: You don't have to excuse, that you are busy doing other stuff than posting vids. 👌
In karatedo the thought of long stances vs short stances is a misunderstanding of the art. Karatedo is a conglomerate of striking, grappling, throwing, locking and choking. The kata are just a template of concepts that can be applied in these areas. Low stances are used for throwing and grappling applications. Shorter stances are better for striking. Basically in kata the stances are representing shifting of one's body weight. Sometimes forward and back, sometimes up and down, or twisting and shifting. Both stances are important for karatedo. Osu🙏
Sir i have question as a karateka since i heard that our block has ability to damage our enemy limbs using our blocks does that mean i can end a fight with just attacking his limbs of his hand i got this idea from motobu choki in his quote?
When you remove the weapon of the attacker, in this case, his limbs, you reduce his willingness to continue to attack, so yeah, you can end a fight like that. It's not common, though. More often than not, in a fight, there is a rush of adrenaline that can remove up to 85% of the sense of pain, and even though you hurt his limbs, he won't feel enough pain to stop the attack
Yeah if you elbow block and he breaks his fist it might end the fight, but that's not realiable, you should train grappling if you want to win without hitting
long stance is for training the legs high stance is for application of a real self defense situation or fight long stance does not help you cover more ground then high stance thats a illusion i went through this along time ago sparring different karate people that were open minded orjust had more wisdom also boxers taekwondo mma guys wrestlers and muay thai and so on they could cover alot groung if they needed with out lowng stance but thereis some stang up grappling aplications to a long low stance but you dont just stay in that stance you transition thats my experience
After nearly 40 years of karate training, including time with Masami Tsuruoka, I find your thoughts on long stances to not be entirely correct…and keeping in mind that opinions are like assholes, we all have one, your thoughts are not without some validity…the need for the beginning karateka to use the stance work for stretching and strengthening of legs is very important because without the tuning of the body, no karateka will attain the flexibility and strength to continue to advance and excel in the martial arts...
You should have title this Why You Should Avoid long Karate Stances IN SHOTOKAN because part of what you say about those are incorrect and only based on your shotokan knowledge, if you are inclined of you fall fordward then your stance is not correct because you are not firmly planted and your tanden is not centered, ofc you wont use this stance in a fight because its an exceptional posture but Its good to help with hara, Keri, zuki and uke tecniques, so dont just brush it off like its an useless posture just because its "long"
As the man makes the skill time should never be wasting on you know getting caught up on one thing when there's so much more to easily master use any and everything as leverage to become even better it's always best to look at things as motivational tools as fighters instead of being skeptical run away to meet obstacles that you may find annoying find a way to use as a confidence-builder not as a stumbling block as you begin to teach others you are the one leading the wait there for that can be no dishes and that's within one's way should you decide to pass on your knowledge and skills find every obstacle turn it into a positive force of more flexibility so when engaged in combat be loose ready and prepared not to mention keep your legs slightly locked but not tense it avoids even the most impossible of attacks and sweeps in the world to fighting the whole point is to be better than The enemy whether it be external original is de always be The very Best you can be all the best enjoy life in as many journeys and thank you for sharing fight on 👊
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Let me know what you're struggling the most on karate!
I find it dificult to keep balance with the yoko geri when performing heian yodan
i move (and start all the movements) with my chest rather than my hip
Motivation, I love karate, its my passion. But sometimes I Just feel unmotivated and stop training for a period.
I feel 'knee pains' after training or moving in my stances.
Training in low stances is meant to strengthen your legs and improve your overall mobility. Any sensible karateka knows you're not going to use your deepest stances in sparing or a street fight. But that your legs will be ready because they're used to being trained in a more stressful manner. Sigh i feel sorry for mainland karate sometimes.
The training aspect surely cannot be ignored!
Could just go running...
@MarginalSC running is actually bad for your body. One of the least efficient means of cardio as well. Also, simply running doesn't develop the mobility one aquires from years of training deep stance movements.
@@TehDanno1 Uh, no.
@@MarginalSC agility drills, plyometrics exercises, ballistic exercises, mobility and stability training, strength training.
I am not saying deep stances are useless because they do train stability in a lengthened state which is ignored in many sports, but it is definitely overused in karate and that is the most important part. Your training needs to be well balanced.
I still have to follow my sensei instructions to the letter and do long stances, but will 100% keep these notions in mind, glad to know I wasn't the only one thinking longer stances weren't as practical for quick movement and to draw strength as shorter stances.
Thank you for this video. This makes a lot of sense that it is the old way here to use a shorter stance. I noticed my Goju Ryu teacher in Japan used a much shorter stance than what I would see in videos, and then I found a video of his teacher, Tadahiko Ohtsuka, who was an OG karate nerd. He did a lot of adacemic study of karate. He trained in Okinawa and even learned some of the original wushu/tai chi chuan techniques from which the Okinawan forms originated. In those videos, I noticed his stances are all very fluid and his zenkutsu-dachi stance is much more like what you are showing, which explains how both he and my teacher move so much more fluidly since they aren't struggling to move forward out of this long stance!
I'm a kyokushin based karateka, and our variation of this stance is always relative to the practitioneer: shoulder width apart, and then step back two shoulder widths.
Keeping your hips underneath you help as well. You keep your explosiveness.
Long and or deep stances are not for standing (and punching) in them, they are "stills" of the moving sequence, and their meaning (in Goju-ryu kata) is usually throwing, disbalancing, grappling,...
Moreover, I teach my students to use (move through) these long deep stances in training, because in a real fight, under stress, your moves will become shorter, and if you don't train long and deep, they may become inefficient. Whereas if you are used to make them long and deep, and you shorten them a bit, they would remain efficient enough.
By the title only, me as a Kung Fu guy, long stances are a must for throws applications. Long and low stances. But now I'm gonna wait your vision on the subject. Thanks
The aspect of throws surely cannot be ignored! I did haven't mentioned that in the video, so thank you for your insight!
Throws, disbalancing, grappling,... all the parts virtually forgotten in modern sport oriented karate. Because we focus on self defense in my club, I teach my students long deep stances where it makes sense due to the bunkai of the move. Also because in real fight, under stress, your moves will usually become shorter than in training, so if you learn small moves, they would become inefficient, whereas if you learn big ones, they will become smaller, but still big enough to work.
@@jozef_chocholacek yes, not only that nowadays I see a lot of grappling styles that punish the knees for a throw or a grab. And I can do the same with long deep stances.
Being influenced as a young man, by an Okinawan style the longer stances were to be avoided in most cases. But in recent years it has been explained that; the Stance is a transitory snapshot of movement. Instead of Rooting before a punch, the punch started during movement and the front stance is the end of the technique (punch has landed). Thus forward momentum is part of the punch. Somewhat hard to explain in a text😅
Also long form stances are designed to strengthen the body as longer lower stances are more difficult. With time the karateka will be able to shorten stances with proper technique. Also long stances help the new student to stretch.
That is why you sink into your stances. Your stance creates and absorbs energy.
@karate dojowaku your lowered shortened stance is similar to d boxing stance and proves the superiority of boxing in mma.
Same. I started Isshinryu in my early 20s. Got into Tang Soo Do in my 40s. I had a big falling out with my former Sah Bum Nim on the low stance/older body issue. I've since adapted and gone hybrid in my 60s.
Bingo. The stance is basically a Finishing move. You step through the OP.. striking at the end. Its seen this way, in arts like Shaolin Longfist, as well. You deflect the OPs attack, and since they are now at close range, you can step towards them as they try to retreat. However, since their step will be about the same speed as your advancement (maybe even slower / less distance)... and your punching arm will be extending even further... they typically wont be able to back away without getting hit. Also, because you are Dropping vertically as you are stepping forwards... it makes it much harder for the OP to potentially Counter you... as suddenly you far below the headstrike level, that they tried to strike you at.
For extra safety, this is often also carried out with one arm sweeping upwards (over your head)... while the other is attacking forwards. The sweeping arm would be deflecting the OPs potential counterstrike.. and then continuing to protect ones head, while you are striking them with the other arm.
I do shitoryu which use shorter more natural stances. It really emphasizes hip rotation to generate power rather than momentum build
You have a real nice punch!!!!!!!
Another alternative is step out on an angle versus forward. It provides for a deep but rooted stance.
On a man it leaves the gron to wide open. It also puts all your weight on the front leg. A sweep to the front leg puts you on the ground.
Many comments here about long/deep stances being for exercise training. I can see that. But that means you need to devote time to training in natural stances too. I agree that people tend to shorten their stances in the stress of adversity, but it's risky to assume that you will be proficient in coordinated quick movement in a natural stance if you don't deliberately cultivate the muscle memory through repetition.
I am 100% with you on this point!
Our stances in Isshinryu are shorter, so I get what you are saying. We talk about this frequently.
Thank you for explanation
So interesting for us 🙏☺️👍🏻
Sounds like Goju-ryu is the style for you if you want a karate style that is close quarters.✊
With very few exceptions, the technique found in Kata are for very close range. When studying Bunkai and Looking for the technique, the hand on the hip (hikate) is there for a reason. Hikate is not always pulling to the hip, it can represent pulling down,across the chest or other pulling motions. Many of the positions in actual usage are represented by the hand on the hip. Consider that a Kata is a formalized representation of functional self defense techniques. The masters who created Kata understood that blocking a punch was very hard and blocking multiple punches are a losing proposition ⛩
When practicing Okinawan kobujutsu with the sai I was using long stances . My teacher then said " put it like this,you don't have long stances when you are walking".
This is great.
Before I watched this video, first thing that came to mind right away: easier to kick the groin or nuts
Long stances are for training/basic (kihon) moves to strengthen you legs and helps to build cardio/muscle memory when practicing and performing kata; long stances are not for sparring or actual self defense training.
in aikido we practice suwari waza techniques which mimics fight on knees of samurais. the position called shikko one knee on surface, toes are perpendicular and grabbing mat and other leg lye on 90 degree. you have to be on balance in that position to stand up quickly. if you do right that is the position of normal stand up jujutsu stance, kamae. its valid for all traditional japanese martial arts. ty for share.
As a shotokan karateka, this should be the norm. Smaller stances aren’t just better for mobility, they’re better for creating stronger technique and internal connection for kinetic linkage.
I suggest looking towards senseis Avi Rokah and Toru Shimoji. Affiliated with the WBKA (Avi’s federation and a Nishiyama heritage). I’ve been lucky to be practicing this type of movement and stance principles since I started training, and happy to say that karate has only ever helped my body, not hurt it.
I've always found that instructors demonstrate exaggerated longer stances to students, especially children, because children tend to shorten their stances anyway, probably because its more comfortable. 😃
Makes sense and everyone has a different anatomy and may not be able to do long stances
As a Taekwondo guy I have the feeling that a Somewhat longer stance than the ones seen in competitions add springiness and power to your kicks, but the really wide and long ones, considered to be more "stable" hinder that.
I agree! There is a right width for everybody.
@@KarateDojowaKu At the dojang they make me do exactly that stance with the rear leg straight. While in fact, the one you show, with the rear knee bent adds so much more jumping and kicking power! I found out this on my own, now seeing you advising the same is so cool 😊
Thank you
I base techniques on whether or not they are functional for fighting. Long stances can be used for a transitional moment. i do not stay in them. The pulling hand hikite is a bad habit to form. The non striking hand has many better things to do than to be brought to the waist, like protecting your brain from being shut off.
As a wrestler I'm wondering locks and chokes. Is karate contains locks and chokes?
Yes! A lot of them. I will be sharing them in the future.
It's nice to see the Okinawan roots crawl back into your Karate. Those Senseis sure have left an impression :)
The long stance used in kumite competitions also makes my muscles around the hip area sore when executing the technique.
I was always under the impression that low, long stances were used or strength and movement. In practical application (a fight), low stances might be a bad idea, but they train muscle memory, strength, and movement. That was never overtly stated, so maybe i was mistaken.
If it's purely for training, I have no problem with it!
Those long stance also caues a lot shearing in the knee and banana knees. You can get a good leg workout with your knee lined up with your hip bone and ankle. Just practice lunge low and coming up in a way a boxer would to get more of a leg workout or do some flying knees. Even heard some shotokan Sensei's say that the short stance aren't athletic. Athleticism is literally being efficient in your movement so how would logn stwnce be more athletic?
I used to take tang soo do and they also do really long stances.
Hello ✨😊 I have my Nidan grading in 4 weeks , I have been training hard .. But I am struggling with breath work during Kata and fast kihon drills . Can you please direct me to a video or make a video about that ? I love your videos , very helpful 🙏🏼❤
You can search "karate dojo waku breathing"
Sensei when will you be making part 2 and 3 of the Last Samurai???
That long stance allows someone to kick you in the hamstrings. easy target
There is some Misunderstanding here. Long stances like this, are basically a "Finishing" move. Where you are at close range... Deflect the OPs strike, and step towards them with this stance... counter-striking. Since you have just deflected their strike... they realize that they are in trouble... but they dont have much time to react. They TRY to take a step backwards away from you... but you are already Deep-Stepping towards them + striking. So even IF they manage to get a single step backwards.. your strike will still be able to reach them.
Otherwise, the stance can be a "Bait". The OP rushes inwards towards you, and you quickly shift back into a cat-stance. Or you can also go from a forwards stance, into a sidewards transition.
I had fought against a dude that knew about 7 different arts. Most were Chinese arts. He knew arts like LongFist, as well as JKD. I never would have thought that low, long stances, would work in high speed sparring. He was in forwards stance... so I rushed towards him with a punch... and he transitioned to a cat stance, while deflecting my attack. Then, since I was very close to him... he took a deep step into a front horse stance, while launching a double palmstrike into me... launching me like 12 to 15ft away from him.
He then explained about how the Shaolin principles work... about "Expansion and Contraction". Showing me various examples, similar to what just took place.
A lot of these methods, are very Deceptive.
What do you think of judo? I'm in judo
It's surely an amazing martial art! However, just like karate, some techniques have been taken away because of it coming a sport.
@Karate Dojo waKu u should watch my vids on cobra Kai
Whoa, with talk like they yusuke, sounds like you’re going to start training an Okinawan style? 😉
I've been implementing it to my Shotokan already😏
Hello ! I am from India and practice shotokan style. In shotokan longer stances are preferred more as it has its own advantages and while performing kata the player covers the whole tatami through long stance.
My sensei tells me the length of the stance also matters on the height of the person . A short person making small stances will look attractive and effective whereas a tall person on the other hand would not look attractive and effective with short stances.
Love from India❤️🇮🇳 ......and can u please make a video on breathing technique or how the kata players use and maintain their breath while performing. Especially in WKF. Thanx
I hate to be redundant, but are you ever going to cover Brandon Lee's movie, Rapid Fire." He was very impressive, smooth, and very fast. Thank you, Shito-Ryu Texas. Thank you for what you do!
Can anybody give me a tips for not moving (side to side) my front knee during the techniques ? Sometimes I have a problem with that... Thank you.
Try leading your movements with your toes! Check this video out!
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I was in Shaolin Kempo Karate and we used similar stances dirt of long and deep
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Humm. I have very long legs and I was trained in ISKF/JKA Shotokan s a kid. Returning to Shotokan now, I default back to a long stance. I am having a hard time getting speed in my movements. My legs are not very strong as they are naturally thin. I wonder if this long stance and my lack of big strong legs is what is holding my speed back.
I like the misconception Videos, but I would also love, what you did here for some Minutes, more historical knowledge. It would be more free of styles, which makes it more easy content for certain styles beginners. P.s.: You don't have to excuse, that you are busy doing other stuff than posting vids. 👌
I hate low stances I have a hernia and it hurts in my stances but my sensei wont let let use natrual stances .
A long stance is used to take people down or to deliver a powerful strike. Then come back into a short stance. Understand?
In karatedo the thought of long stances vs short stances is a misunderstanding of the art. Karatedo is a conglomerate of striking, grappling, throwing, locking and choking. The kata are just a template of concepts that can be applied in these areas. Low stances are used for throwing and grappling applications. Shorter stances are better for striking. Basically in kata the stances are representing shifting of one's body weight. Sometimes forward and back, sometimes up and down, or twisting and shifting. Both stances are important for karatedo. Osu🙏
Sir i have question as a karateka since i heard that our block has ability to damage our enemy limbs using our blocks does that mean i can end a fight with just attacking his limbs of his hand i got this idea from motobu choki in his quote?
When you remove the weapon of the attacker, in this case, his limbs, you reduce his willingness to continue to attack, so yeah, you can end a fight like that. It's not common, though. More often than not, in a fight, there is a rush of adrenaline that can remove up to 85% of the sense of pain, and even though you hurt his limbs, he won't feel enough pain to stop the attack
Yeah if you elbow block and he breaks his fist it might end the fight, but that's not realiable, you should train grappling if you want to win without hitting
But, long stance is one of the strengths of shotokan…
long stance is for training the legs high stance is for application of a real self defense situation or fight long stance does not help you cover more ground then high stance thats a illusion i went through this along time ago sparring different karate people that were open minded orjust had more wisdom also boxers taekwondo mma guys wrestlers and muay thai and so on they could cover alot groung if they needed with out lowng stance but thereis some stang up grappling aplications to a long low stance but you dont just stay in that stance you transition thats my experience
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After nearly 40 years of karate training, including time with Masami Tsuruoka, I find your thoughts on long stances to not be entirely correct…and keeping in mind that opinions are like assholes, we all have one, your thoughts are not without some validity…the need for the beginning karateka to use the stance work for stretching and strengthening of legs is very important because without the tuning of the body, no karateka will attain the flexibility and strength to continue to advance and excel in the martial arts...
You should have title this Why You Should Avoid long Karate Stances IN SHOTOKAN because part of what you say about those are incorrect and only based on your shotokan knowledge, if you are inclined of you fall fordward then your stance is not correct because you are not firmly planted and your tanden is not centered, ofc you wont use this stance in a fight because its an exceptional posture but Its good to help with hara, Keri, zuki and uke tecniques, so dont just brush it off like its an useless posture just because its "long"
As the man makes the skill time should never be wasting on you know getting caught up on one thing when there's so much more to easily master use any and everything as leverage to become even better it's always best to look at things as motivational tools as fighters instead of being skeptical run away to meet obstacles that you may find annoying find a way to use as a confidence-builder not as a stumbling block as you begin to teach others you are the one leading the wait there for that can be no dishes and that's within one's way should you decide to pass on your knowledge and skills find every obstacle turn it into a positive force of more flexibility so when engaged in combat be loose ready and prepared not to mention keep your legs slightly locked but not tense it avoids even the most impossible of attacks and sweeps in the world to fighting the whole point is to be better than The enemy whether it be external original is de always be The very Best you can be all the best enjoy life in as many journeys and thank you for sharing fight on 👊
Avoiding training low stances is a result of being lazy, nothing more. Trying to justify it is just trying to justify being lazy.
Long story stances are trash 👍