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Thank you very much for sharing this knowledge. I have just done some tweaking as you showed and managed to raise my average FPS from 16 to 23.5. Thank you again! Cheers, -Aviator
Thanks again Froog! Coming back into FSX after being with X-Plane 10 for a while has been tough because I have not been able to get FSX to run well like it used to on my system. With the info presented in your video I can take a more scientific and analytical approach to my testing. In this kind of tweaking benchmarking is a must. Its good to get hard data like this. It helps me feel like I am not in the dark with my tweaks. And oh yeah the test scenario that you described is very intuitive. A very good way to keep the test environment consistent which is essential to experimentation.
Could you create video about the correct scenery order and what it does exactly? For Example I have ORBX called openLC Europe and FTX EU Ireland on top of the ftx global of course but I dont know whats the realtion between LC Europe and EU Ireland. If there is a conflict or no etc. + I would like to know if I can combine it with for example free scenery mesh if it improves quality overall or I should not use freeware sceneries when I have there some payware scenery.
Thank you Pete! I am now at 39 FPS - This really makes so much sense to work through the tweaks, weeding out those that did not really add a benefit (at least on my machine) I tended to add tweaks all at once because someone said this, and that worked... Like Affinity Mask, I was not really comfortable adding it, I have added to my config and it really did help.. thanks and have a good week :)
I used Kosta's setting in nVidia Inspector (and applied them) and turned off AA in FSX, but I see no AA effect and I get tearing. Does this mean the nVidia Inspector profile has not been loaded and applied correctly? I have the default nVidia Control Panel installed (which I always used) and see my old values still there after applying Kosta's in Inspector - I would have thought his settings would be reflected in the nVidia Control Panel? Hence I am quite confused as to whether doing anything in Inspector is working????
Dude, Xtreme FSX has completely changed my simming experience. I've been having issues with ASN causing major lag in frame rates whenever there was even a small amount of weather. Xtreme FSX fixed all of the little problems and I now get amazing performance out of my sim. Thanks for that suggestion.
Hey Froogle. I have some pretty decent fps with the NGX; 20-30 in the cockpit, and 30-70 outside view. But as soon as i get to an addon scenery, it goes down dramaticlly to around 8-15 fps. Is there any kind of scenery tweaking? Thanks.
hi i have already this tweak but it dosnt make me feel good with the bad scenery loading...is that normal in fsx???i cant see the city buldings till i get very close to them!!....just like yours??....excuse my english it isnt good lol.
i recently got a new pc with a gt 740 2gb of gddr5,4gb ram 1333hmz,and a amd fx -6300 unlocked of course and my avg fps is 40-55, well i added a free scenery from GAP(greek aiports project) for macedonia LGTS and when i reach the airport i have 19-20 fps barely..should i tweak my fsx and solve it or there's another solution?if there's one..
Hey guys. I have an autogen poping issue. I understand that is a thing in FSX however I have constant popping as close as 200 meters or even less to my aircraft. It is extremely distracting and renders the game unplayable. This happens on a untoched as well as a tweaked version of FSX. Any ideas? Cheers.
i have a problem with my i7 8gbram geforcegtx950m. whatever resolution i put or quality, fsx will eventually freeze. will this tweak improve my gameplay? im so frustrated i cant get this working properly!! please give me some help
+Nitin Rosh I'm sorry I can't help you - there could be any number of reasons for this. I would suggest you check post on a forum like Mutley's hangar and ask for support there.
hi frooglesim, very nice done! I just have one question! I am currently using an old PC with Windows XP, 1GB RAM and 3,06Ghz, I know that sounds really poor but I'm spending all my money on flying lessons! I have set my FSX settings quiet low to fly with an average frame level of 18-20FPS. Would you recommend me to set them up for tweaking or shall I just leave them ? Greetings and keep the blue side up ;-) Achim
Froogle You say to do these tests with a frame limiter off, which is correct, but I noticed your frame rates are consistently around 30. Do you have VSYNC set to 1/2 refresh rate in your video driver setting? If so that essentially will do the same thing.as a fame rate limiter. (Which is what you want normally to get smooth graphics.) If though you are checking the effects of tweaks to actual system performance, then you should also make sure VSYNC is off as well. This will give you the actual FPS effect a tweak has.
if everyone had ever did what you recommended in the video, we would have saved a lot of wasted hours tweaking fsx and deal with every one cfg's. After i sat for many hours in front of my pc with fraps and the way froogle sawed i ended up with a nice smooth and hope crashless fsx!! thank you very much sir!!!
Hey guys I am only getting around 16 fps is this normal? Also I do not have any addon or did any tweaks. Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3632QM CPU @ 2.20GHz 8GB Ram Nvidia GT 640M LE
Froogle, I have a triple monitor setup using an Nvidia GTX760 card. I am using Nvidia's surround software to span all three monitors. This setup has been working for well for some time, except for one thing. In FXS my gauges take all of the screen such that I cannot see the outside unless I pan up, then I cannot see the guages, unless I pan down. I see your setup and others, where outside and guages are visible all at once. How can I setup to see more visuals in FSX?
Hi. Is there a video for installing FSX + acceleration on a OS windows 8 or 8.1? I have heard of some fine tuning needed for a possible freeze up. Thank you in advance. Rob
fozzlac Not from me no. Although a lot of people have no problem with Windows 8 and FSX, I have heard too many horror stories to risk putting Windows 8 on one of my machines.
Hello fellow! Great video! I've got Intel Core i5 3570k 3.4, 8 gb RAM and GTX 660 ddr5. I don't know the bloody hell get a good performance and quality as well. I've watched vídeos with lower hardware performance better than mine! Any advise?
Well, running Eyefinity with three 27" monitors I get a steady 60.2 fps with v-sync (I can get higher fps, but since I never drop under 59 fps I prefere good average), all I used was the Affinity mask 84 and then I let the graphic card work rather than FSX itself leaving most settings at full pretty much. like he said, it's different from computer to computer...
I did enjoy the 'Affinity Mask' tweak and your consistent procedure. I will have to look into that. BTW what are your thoughts on the 'FSX Booster 2013? Just a 'note'... When you did the 'Buffer Pools' tweak, and checked it for the cause of possible instability, you mistakenly typed 'BufferPools=0' instead of 'Bufferpools=0'... I'm strongly suspicious that the 'command' should reflect a lower case 'p' for pools instead of the upper case 'P' that you typed. Wonder if that'll make a difference...?
I have used most of the 'boosters'. They invariably add stuff into the sim to try to boost it which you have little to no control over. When those things start to conflict with add ons, you're screwed. I also found that when I went to remove such tools they had done strange things to my scenery libraries which required a lot of work to fix, it's almost like they want to put the sim back into a really bad state when you stop using them to provide a false perception of just how good they are.
I still cant squeeze more than 10 fps at large city areas like New York or Fly Tampa's Kai Tak. I have i5 2500K, gtx 960 4gb, 8gb of ram, running W7. I am not saying that I have super PC but it should give me more fps. I'am using bufferpools, highmemfix and affinitymask nothing helped much :(
Hey froogle, how do you work out the number to use in the fsx.cfg tweak 'affinitymask=14'? You changed yours to '84'. How did you know that this number was better for your computer instead of 14?
It's a binary bit mask. Unfortunately talking you through how to work that out is a bit beyond the scope of a video comment section. There is a handy calculator that can do it for you at www.gatwick-fsg.org.uk/affinitymask.aspx?SubMenuItem=hardware I don't use tweaks at all anymore- just get FSX SE and run it.
I tend to set Nvidia inspector up, without frame rate locks, and leave it, just to focus on the sim changes. Once you have the sim where you want it, you can repeat this process and mess around with nvidia inspector settings to see their effects on performance.
Good day , do you know how to fix a memory issue , my fsx is crashing , and I get a message saying that my pc ran out of memory , . any advice? ,, thank you
Buy the steam version. They made it much more stable and it comes with all service packs as it is. They also have a fair amount of aircraft to purchase from the steam store.
It is based on your CPU etc. Here is a link to a handy calculator I found for finding your number. www.gatwick-fsg.org.uk/affinitymask.aspx?SubMenuItem=hardware
froogle i was tresting that because with ezdok im having problems changing camera views have u had any issues with ezdok, and ftxglobal maybe it little heavy video regenerating while changing views....ive change to stock scenery and works ok....
Hi Froogle. I think BP=0 tweak works better with a target frame rate of 30. Unlimited causes FSX to crash. I had problems combining BP=0 with Unlimited fps but no probs with 30. If Unlimited is preferred then a BP should be set inside cfg. You know the rest. Congrats on your tremendous work. Cheers from Greece.
my fsx steam edition is showing on my monitor (i have 2 that is not equaly big) like it is 4 times the size of my monitor and the other screen it is a little smaller just goes black what do i do
Well the video here shows how to make changes and measure their impact on your sim. You'd need to do the research to find non Nvidia tweaks elsewhere but then use this method to measure whether or not on your system they have the desired effect.
I am a FSX user but I had to remove and reinstall FSX. Should I firstly add all my Addons (Aerosoft Airbus X, Freeware...) or should I install them after the whole tweaking process?
+frooglesim Should I set my FPS limiter in FSX to unlimited? Is it better to use Addons such as Airbus X to do the benchmarking over default planes, as I will be using it a lot?
I've been tweaking a lot...all the standard tweaks you can find on internet and the ones that Froogle also mentions are fine when you use a CPU up to an i5 Core 4th generation. I'm using an i7 4790K and find that settings like BUFFERPOOLS Poolsize=0 are useless. This is supposed to let your GPU do the work...instead of the CPU. FSX wasn't designed like that, so I doubt the real effect of that. Second: Why if you have an i7 like mine and your CPU does only 35%, would you let your GPU do some thing? It has room do to more. My advice for i7 4th Gen., use just this: Have your display sliders INSIDE FSX to the MAX or a bit less extreme. Turn off all trafic and shadow effects on ground, plane and stuff like that. Maybe change that later, when happy. The adjust FSX.cfg: [JOBSCHEDULER] AffinityMask=84 or other numbers ( i doubt this one too,but 84 doesn't harm) [Main] Fiber_Frame_Time_Fraction=.10 (reduces load time of graphics) [Display] UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=30 WideViewAspect=True [GRAPHICS] Highmemfix=1 ForcedWindowedVSync=1 TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=2048 remark: 4096= HD quality but 2048 is just as good. Never ever touch the sliders again INSIDE FSX. Froogle is right. For further tweaking only use the NVIDIA configuration screen for 3D applications. Right click on your Geforce Experience button and open the config screen. Go to Program settings for 3d applications and find FSX.exe. Then read what NVIDIA config screen explains to you and experiment with the settings. Try it with scenery like DUBAI and a PMDG 777 if you have it. The 737-800 NGX is a piece of cake for an i7 core CPU 4th gen. Even at Innsbruck scenery with Active sky Next and Rex4 for example. I only have trouble with a PMDG 777-300 flying low over Manhattan in New York X scenery :) Then I get Out of memory.
It varies. I broke my sim with a bunch of plugin tweaks and config tweaks this week - this video was recorded after re-installing. Currently I'm running nVidia Inspector, HighMemFix, WideViewAspect and AffinityMask, and that's it.
Please guys can you help me with some FPS issues, I have : -i5 660 processor -12Gigs of Ram -Nvidia gt610 2GB with all that I am running FSX with 8-12 fps , which is very frustrating, I tried teaking the Afinity mask but nothing diference?
Labied Abderrahim FPS issues are not something that can be resolved through a UA-cam back and forth. I would suggest you follow the steps in this video, clear your config and work through Kostas' tweaking guide measuring the impact of each change.
frooglesim It's really good to hear from you Froogle I really appreciate it, Well at the moment that's what I am doing following Kosta's guide, still running it like 5-11 fps, What I need to know is, what are the tweaks that affect to CPU ? and a little question,Is my rig sufficient enough to run FSX on 25-30FPS. My rig : -i5 660 processor -12Gigs of Ram -Nvidia gt610 2GB
Labied Abderrahim FSX is 8 years old. Compared to when it was released your PC is state of the art so yes it can run it. I don't recall which specific changes are CPU dependent (all of them I suspect) and I think you'd be able to read the document faster than if you wait for me to read it and then type up what I just read. If your performance is that terrible you might also consider deleting FSX and starting over. For hitting 25-30 that's highly dependent on the scenery, aircraft, weather etc. Good luck with your tuning. Please consider also turning to experts on forums for help as UA-cam is not a good medium for troubleshooting and there are usually people on forums with a lot more experience and time than I have.
i've been simming now for about 13 years. i'm 'expert' ( instrument) level. in addition to having done a hefty' amount of 'outside' study, reading, studying, etc... on flying, procedures, IFR, charts, use of checklists and cockpit instrument understanding. probably have about 8 thousand hours since 2002. must say, after watching all this, and all the "computer" tasking and 'tweaking', changing of .CFG files, this and that, opening this, downloading that, and on, and on, and on...... in my estimation, all this, is actually more arduous, boring and time consuming, than...."Flying the actual god damn airplane itself. holy crap...... i got dizzy and utterly disinterested at about 2 minutes in, with all the extraneous, endless "Shit'...that optimally running a Flight Sim now, seems to demand of you, to 'have a good experience' anymore? whew..... just don't know if i'd want to undertake all that computer 'busy-work' before i could 'have fun' flying an aircraft in FSX.
I agree wasting hundreds of hours to download search and adjust adjust adjust tweak tweak tweak. I have done this hamster wheel madness since buying FSX 7 years ago but no more. I have hundreds of scenery and planes for fs9 and with some converted FSX ground textures in FS9 it looks and performs good too with no tweaking and aggravation. I have been doing FS since 1998 never before not even FS 2000 caused me so much aggravation as FSX. I have the sim but use FS9 mainly in my opinion FSX is a sim for millionaires who can afford to constantly throw large sums of money into new hardware every 2 years
Hi Froogle, I have a problem with FSX that I can't seem to get answered. Maybe you can shed some light on it. FSX runs OK but all the scenery has lots & lots of large black boxes all over. Even when I'm flying a mission flight. Have you heard of this before? I run a lot of Orbx scenery so I unchecked them all and the boxes are still there. I know you are very busy, but I don't know were else to look. Thanks.
+frooglesim Thanks so much for getting back to me so fast. Your the best. And yes Directx 10 was the problem. I did have it on for some time with no problem, but in the last week the problem started. I turned it off and the black boxes are gone. Thanks again. I knew I could count on you.
Hey Luke. Kostas explains it at kostasfsworld.wordpress.com/fsx-software-and-hardware-guide/. Quad core with hyper threading off = 14. With hyper threading on = 84 if you want to use the physical cores only. 252 if you want to also use the hyper threads.
frooglesim And waht makes it so frustrating for us users is post like this; www.simforums.com/forums/the-fsx-computer-system-bible-in-pdf-format_topic46757_post284247.html#284247 in which NickN states: My thoughts on affinity mask is: I have never, ever seen a single system I have setup need that edit..... Affinity Mask in a modern system- IF IT TRULY makes a defined difference in users system: that means something in the users individual installation is hitting core0 TOO HARD and moving FSX to the next core will help. This is something that can be seen if a user runs programs other than FSX at the same time, OR, something in their OS or program startup system is hitting the CPU and the user simply does not have the TECH ABILITY to figure out what it is and shut it down. Ah, Tecj ability, lol, now I see why I might have a problem.
frooglesim Another interesting bit of information: Now, if you happen to use a lot of programs at the same time with FSX running you can actually make a change that will have far more efficiency and produce a better result than affinity mask by using the Windows TASK MANAGER. Launch FSX and all the programs you intend to use with it such as weather engines or other support applications and then launch the Windows Task Manager.. find ALL the support programs EXE files in the PROCESS LIST, right click them and select SET AFFINITY. When the box appears uncheck ALL but the LAST CORE for the programs you started running along side FSX and leave FSX alone and don't use affinity mask. I know you, Froogle, have most other programs running on another machine so maybe Affinity Mask is not right for you. So many experts, so many different approaches.
What's the point of this video? Letting the com go smoothly during the harsh addons or is it just improving some fps? I don't really get it what the tweaks are for
+유재혁 By spreading support apps onto another computer you free up processing power on the main computer. That can result in higher FPS, but it also delivers a number of other benefits such as being able to run the sim in full screen mode but still have access to interact with other apps without having to alt-tab or pause.
Nice idea - also you really do not need a system over £800 really for FSX, after using Froogle's great method I'm running a £600 PC in the same scenario on the video at an average of 39fps (just saying for those of you keen on saving money ;D )
I have 2 systems in different locations running FSX plus a raft of add-ons - an i5 4670K @ 4.4GHz with 8GB RAM and a 2GB GTX670 which I built last year, plus an E8400 Core 2 Duo @ 3.6GHz with 4GB RAM and a 1GB HD5850 which I built 5 years ago. The i5 system uses a 1980x1080 monitor and the E8400 uses a 1680x1050. I've tweaked both systems as best I could using online guides and forums, appreciating that each system will benefit from different tweaks due to different processors, etc. I also limited both systems to 30FPS. Anyway, it always impresses me how well the 5 year old E8400 performs, hanging on in there at mid-high 20s FPS-wise. It does get rather warm though...
yea but 3.6ghz 4.4 ghz is pretty good though..I'm talking something @2.5ghz, I'm getting 8 to 10 fps in 737 ngx cockpit..with just bit tweaking, I'm trying to get to 11 fps min in cockpit or atleast 9 fps
Hi Pete. I do not know did you notice with your second tweak [BUFFERPOOLS] Usepools=0 you wrote in fsx cfg UsePools=0 maybe that was problem you could not make next test.But away Thanks for your help how improve FSX.
hey Frooglesim just watch your video and i see you having problems with Bufferpools. on my machine it works fine without problems and i see that you add capital P on ( userPools ) when it should had be ( userpools ). tip use Poolsize=0. with capital P instead of userpools.
I may be incorrect but I see a difference in the spelling in the Bufferpool tweak addition as follows......UsePools=0 vs Usepools=0, which may account for the game not responding correctly.
It's also not repeatable. You can't guarantee on every single run through that you will change the view at the same rate, angles etc etc every single test, and thus it will invariably screw with the results. If you are going to follow a scientific approach to measurement then you have to follow pure and repeatable steps.
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Imagine the average person going into the store, picking up FSX and say, "let me try this". Boy...are they in for a big surprise! Nice video for veterans though!
I used to use that, but in the long term it didn't work out for me. It injects a lot into FSX outside of simple fsx.cfg changes and I found it to be very limiting.
***** It's a fairly scientific approach to let you accurately measure the effect of any change on your simulators performance. So yes, it will work with DX10. More to the point you can use it when switching to DX10 to see if you really are getting performance or not.
"Sometimes it will crash...sometimes it won't." - the mantra of FSX it seems, sadly.
Thanks for the tips!
Thanks Pete, soon I will do a full re-install of my FSX and I will use your method to test all the tweaks I did, im glad you made this video.
Thank you very much for sharing this knowledge. I have just done some tweaking as you showed and managed to raise my average FPS from 16 to 23.5. Thank you again!
Cheers,
-Aviator
Thanks again Froog! Coming back into FSX after being with X-Plane 10 for a while has been tough because I have not been able to get FSX to run well like it used to on my system. With the info presented in your video I can take a more scientific and analytical approach to my testing.
In this kind of tweaking benchmarking is a must. Its good to get hard data like this. It helps me feel like I am not in the dark with my tweaks. And oh yeah the test scenario that you described is very intuitive. A very good way to keep the test environment consistent which is essential to experimentation.
How do you get the numbers on left corner and the initiating all systems countdown?
Could you create video about the correct scenery order and what it does exactly? For Example I have ORBX called openLC Europe and FTX EU Ireland on top of the ftx global of course but I dont know whats the realtion between LC Europe and EU Ireland. If there is a conflict or no etc.
+ I would like to know if I can combine it with for example free scenery mesh if it improves quality overall or I should not use freeware sceneries when I have there some payware scenery.
Thank you Pete!
I am now at 39 FPS - This really makes so much sense to work through the tweaks, weeding out those that did not really add a benefit (at least on my machine) I tended to add tweaks all at once because someone said this, and that worked... Like Affinity Mask, I was not really comfortable adding it, I have added to my config and it really did help.. thanks and have a good week :)
I'm really glad it helped.
Thank you so much froogle , it has been a interesting video AGAIN.
Cheers
mels
I used Kosta's setting in nVidia Inspector (and applied them) and turned off AA in FSX, but I see no AA effect and I get tearing. Does this mean the nVidia Inspector profile has not been loaded and applied correctly? I have the default nVidia Control Panel installed (which I always used) and see my old values still there after applying Kosta's in Inspector - I would have thought his settings would be reflected in the nVidia Control Panel? Hence I am quite confused as to whether doing anything in Inspector is working????
Dude, Xtreme FSX has completely changed my simming experience. I've been having issues with ASN causing major lag in frame rates whenever there was even a small amount of weather. Xtreme FSX fixed all of the little problems and I now get amazing performance out of my sim. Thanks for that suggestion.
May these methods for tweaking be used if I am not using Fraps?
Hey Froogle. I have some pretty decent fps with the NGX; 20-30 in the cockpit, and 30-70 outside view. But as soon as i get to an addon scenery, it goes down dramaticlly to around 8-15 fps. Is there any kind of scenery tweaking? Thanks.
frooglesim, my Maths book is missing tomorrow is my maths final exam. Can you tell me what to do? plzzz help me
I have always wondered how people tweak there FSX correctly for there own computer. Thanks froogle!
hi
i have already this tweak but it dosnt make me feel good with the bad scenery loading...is that normal in fsx???i cant see the city buldings till i get very close to them!!....just like yours??....excuse my english it isnt good lol.
Thanks for this video it has made my FSX run like it never did before , i have now FPS of between 25 to 35 . life is worth living again , lol cheers .
hi can you make a good seting for FSX window mode not on full screen? thanks!! :)
i recently got a new pc with a gt 740 2gb of gddr5,4gb ram 1333hmz,and a amd fx -6300 unlocked of course and my avg fps is 40-55, well i added a free scenery from GAP(greek aiports project) for macedonia LGTS and when i reach the airport i have 19-20 fps barely..should i tweak my fsx and solve it or there's another solution?if there's one..
As always, very useful! Thanks!
I totally agree and will be doing this when I tweak my system tomorrow.
do you need to do this for fsx steam edition
Thank you Froogle for the very helpful support. The ngx is running sooo much smoother then it was.
You're welcome, glad it helped.
I have the PMDG 737 but I cant find any saved flights... What should I do? Is there any way I can download it?
hey frooglesim what aboult us amd phenom ii t1090 x6 users and running evga gtx 680 classified 4gb
Hey guys.
I have an autogen poping issue. I understand that is a thing in FSX however I have constant popping as close as 200 meters or even less to my aircraft. It is extremely distracting and renders the game unplayable.
This happens on a untoched as well as a tweaked version of FSX.
Any ideas?
Cheers.
i tweak fsx alot, but what is bufferpools
i have a problem with my i7 8gbram geforcegtx950m. whatever resolution i put or quality, fsx will eventually freeze. will this tweak improve my gameplay? im so frustrated i cant get this working properly!! please give me some help
hey Froogle just wanted to know if you would mind posting your fsx.cfg or p3d.cfg
Pools in Usepools in your cfg was capitalized. Don't know if it was case sensitive or not. Just something I noticed.
Thanks for these Videos Froogle My son and I are enjoying FSX even more now that we have Active Sky Next , Rex and your tweaking videos.
+Joshua Beyers That's awesome! Keep building those great memories sir
+Nitin Rosh I'm sorry I can't help you - there could be any number of reasons for this. I would suggest you check post on a forum like Mutley's hangar and ask for support there.
hi frooglesim,
very nice done!
I just have one question!
I am currently using an old PC
with Windows XP, 1GB RAM and 3,06Ghz,
I know that sounds really poor but I'm spending all my money on flying lessons!
I have set my FSX settings quiet low to fly with an average frame level of 18-20FPS. Would you recommend me to set them up for tweaking or shall I just leave them ?
Greetings and keep the blue side up ;-)
Achim
Thanx man!!! With Project Airbus A380-861 Emirates with FlyTampa Dubai Rebooted from 26fps to 32fps!!!! Really made the difference!!! Thnx a lot!!!
With the FSX Fiber Accelerator along with this I get 35fps easily......
Froogle, did you use the frame limiter in FSX? Did you set it to unlimited or what?
Froogle You say to do these tests with a frame limiter off, which is correct, but I noticed your frame rates are consistently around 30. Do you have VSYNC set to 1/2 refresh rate in your video driver setting? If so that essentially will do the same thing.as a fame rate limiter. (Which is what you want normally to get smooth graphics.) If though you are checking the effects of tweaks to actual system performance, then you should also make sure VSYNC is off as well. This will give you the actual FPS effect a tweak has.
if everyone had ever did what you recommended in the video, we would have saved a lot of wasted hours tweaking fsx and deal with every one cfg's. After i sat for many hours in front of my pc with fraps and the way froogle sawed i ended up with a nice smooth and hope crashless fsx!! thank you very much sir!!!
Hey when you did the BUFFERPOOLS tweak you had the Pools in Usepools capitalized. I think that is why It was not working. Just a thought.
Hey guys I am only getting around 16 fps is this normal? Also I do not have any addon or did any tweaks.
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3632QM CPU @ 2.20GHz
8GB Ram
Nvidia GT 640M LE
Hello, nice video but from where i can download the 737-800ng aircraft give me the link plzz... !
Froogle, I have a triple monitor setup using an Nvidia GTX760 card. I am using Nvidia's surround software to span all three monitors. This setup has been working for well for some time, except for one thing. In FXS my gauges take all of the screen such that I cannot see the outside unless I pan up, then I cannot see the guages, unless I pan down. I see your setup and others, where outside and guages are visible all at once. How can I setup to see more visuals in FSX?
+Gregory P if you go into your fsx config file there is a setting called "wideViewAspect" to "True"
Thank you very much.
Hi. Is there a video for installing FSX + acceleration on a OS windows 8 or 8.1? I have heard of some fine tuning needed for a possible freeze up. Thank you in advance.
Rob
fozzlac Not from me no. Although a lot of people have no problem with Windows 8 and FSX, I have heard too many horror stories to risk putting Windows 8 on one of my machines.
Hello fellow! Great video! I've got Intel Core i5 3570k 3.4, 8 gb RAM and GTX 660 ddr5. I don't know the bloody hell get a good performance and quality as well. I've watched vídeos with lower hardware performance better than mine! Any advise?
Well, running Eyefinity with three 27" monitors I get a steady 60.2 fps with v-sync (I can get higher fps, but since I never drop under 59 fps I prefere good average), all I used was the Affinity mask 84 and then I let the graphic card work rather than FSX itself leaving most settings at full pretty much. like he said, it's different from computer to computer...
Does Nvidia 334.67 driver give you any problems? Specifically with the PMDG 777.
No sir, no issues with that driver here.
Just wondering, how many hours it takes you? With this scientific method.
Another great video..and kinda pleased that it didn't work out 'quite as well' with one of the tweaks...makes you seem much more 'Normal' hahahaha
googleisshittoss Lol, yes no-one is perfect.
Using a high quality Project Airbus A380 Emirates texture, in Dubai Int using FlyTampa Dubai, I went from 19FPS to 34FPS. Pretty significant.
Very interesting. I'm going to give that a go.
I did enjoy the 'Affinity Mask' tweak and your consistent procedure. I will have to look into that. BTW what are your thoughts on the 'FSX Booster 2013?
Just a 'note'... When you did the 'Buffer Pools' tweak, and checked it for the cause of possible instability, you mistakenly typed 'BufferPools=0' instead of 'Bufferpools=0'...
I'm strongly suspicious that the 'command' should reflect a lower case 'p' for pools instead of the upper case 'P' that you typed. Wonder if that'll make a difference...?
I have used most of the 'boosters'. They invariably add stuff into the sim to try to boost it which you have little to no control over. When those things start to conflict with add ons, you're screwed. I also found that when I went to remove such tools they had done strange things to my scenery libraries which required a lot of work to fix, it's almost like they want to put the sim back into a really bad state when you stop using them to provide a false perception of just how good they are.
Can you show or write your settings from you nvidia inspector ? I have a GTX 780 Ti !!! Thanks;)
I still cant squeeze more than 10 fps at large city areas like New York or Fly Tampa's Kai Tak. I have i5 2500K, gtx 960 4gb, 8gb of ram, running W7. I am not saying that I have super PC but it should give me more fps.
I'am using bufferpools, highmemfix and affinitymask nothing helped much :(
Hey froogle, how do you work out the number to use in the fsx.cfg tweak 'affinitymask=14'? You changed yours to '84'. How did you know that this number was better for your computer instead of 14?
It's a binary bit mask. Unfortunately talking you through how to work that out is a bit beyond the scope of a video comment section. There is a handy calculator that can do it for you at www.gatwick-fsg.org.uk/affinitymask.aspx?SubMenuItem=hardware
I don't use tweaks at all anymore- just get FSX SE and run it.
+frooglesim ok thank you very much for the quick reply. I will try that when I get home tomorrow. Thanks again, much appreciated!
Froogle is our savior!, do you recommend messing with the Nvidia inspector once and leaving it like the FSX settings?
I tend to set Nvidia inspector up, without frame rate locks, and leave it, just to focus on the sim changes. Once you have the sim where you want it, you can repeat this process and mess around with nvidia inspector settings to see their effects on performance.
Good day , do you know how to fix a memory issue , my fsx is crashing , and I get a message saying that my pc ran out of memory , . any advice? ,, thank you
+Pipe J Fry ua-cam.com/video/cXj90GBPdc8/v-deo.html
i bought fsx a year ago an i have microsoft widnows 8 and the game wont instal. i need help on installing and getting add ons and everything!
Buy the steam version. They made it much more stable and it comes with all service packs as it is. They also have a fair amount of aircraft to purchase from the steam store.
how did you get your no. for Affinity mask
It is based on your CPU etc. Here is a link to a handy calculator I found for finding your number.
www.gatwick-fsg.org.uk/affinitymask.aspx?SubMenuItem=hardware
I would just like to state that I approve of your testing methodology completely!
+George O'Toole Thanks George.
+George O'Toole Your name is George O'Toole, and you approve this message.
this fps are overclocked or standard cpu speed, ihave i74770k and gtx 780 and im getting 26.7 average after tweak is that low?
No, that's pretty normal.
froogle i was tresting that because with ezdok im having problems changing camera views have u had any issues with ezdok, and ftxglobal maybe it little heavy video regenerating while changing views....ive change to stock scenery and works ok....
great vid! saw your based out of Orange County! im from here too! hahah
I have an HD monitor with a g-force gtx graphics card and fsx is not In HD. How do I fix that?
I think you can choose the adapter to use in FSX's graphics setting dialog where you choose your resolution.
This was with Windows 7 is it the same for Windows 8 or is there a different?
Exactly the same process for Windows 8
Hi Froogle. I think BP=0 tweak works better with a target frame rate of 30. Unlimited causes FSX to crash. I had problems combining BP=0 with Unlimited fps but no probs with 30. If Unlimited is preferred then a BP should be set inside cfg. You know the rest. Congrats on your tremendous work. Cheers from Greece.
my fsx steam edition is showing on my monitor (i have 2 that is not equaly big) like it is 4 times the size of my monitor and the other screen it is a little smaller just goes black what do i do
+team deadsilinse Press Alt Enter
thank you very much and happy hollydays to you
Thank you very much. very helpful
My fsx cfg is not there?
if my graphics card isnt nividia will it work ?
Well the video here shows how to make changes and measure their impact on your sim. You'd need to do the research to find non Nvidia tweaks elsewhere but then use this method to measure whether or not on your system they have the desired effect.
I am a FSX user but I had to remove and reinstall FSX. Should I firstly add all my Addons (Aerosoft Airbus X, Freeware...) or should I install them after the whole tweaking process?
Remove first
+frooglesim Should I set my FPS limiter in FSX to unlimited? Is it better to use Addons such as Airbus X to do the benchmarking over default planes, as I will be using it a lot?
+MrFSXguy HD Always best to benchmark with something you are likely to use (aircraft, scenery etc). I prefer to lock the framerate.
you had a captital P in Usepools . dont know if it makes any difference but.. maybe thats why it didnt work.
Hey froogle what about my system I7 4770k 3.50Ghz, 16GB ram Corsair vengeance, Asus R9 280X 3GB. 1TB hard drive
great video, would love to see a dx10 config video
I've been tweaking a lot...all the standard tweaks you can find on internet and the ones that Froogle also mentions are fine when you use a CPU up to an i5 Core 4th generation.
I'm using an i7 4790K and find that settings like BUFFERPOOLS Poolsize=0 are useless.
This is supposed to let your GPU do the work...instead of the CPU. FSX wasn't designed like that, so I doubt the real effect of that. Second: Why if you have an i7 like mine and your CPU does only 35%, would you let your GPU do some thing? It has room do to more.
My advice for i7 4th Gen., use just this:
Have your display sliders INSIDE FSX to the MAX or a bit less extreme.
Turn off all trafic and shadow effects on ground, plane and stuff like that. Maybe change that later, when happy.
The adjust FSX.cfg:
[JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask=84 or other numbers ( i doubt this one too,but 84 doesn't harm)
[Main]
Fiber_Frame_Time_Fraction=.10 (reduces load time of graphics)
[Display]
UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=30
WideViewAspect=True
[GRAPHICS]
Highmemfix=1
ForcedWindowedVSync=1
TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=2048
remark: 4096= HD quality but 2048 is just as good.
Never ever touch the sliders again INSIDE FSX. Froogle is right.
For further tweaking only use the NVIDIA configuration screen for 3D applications.
Right click on your Geforce Experience button and open the config screen. Go to Program settings for 3d applications and find FSX.exe.
Then read what NVIDIA config screen explains to you and experiment with the settings.
Try it with scenery like DUBAI and a PMDG 777 if you have it.
The 737-800 NGX is a piece of cake for an i7 core CPU 4th gen. Even at Innsbruck scenery with Active sky Next and Rex4 for example.
I only have trouble with a PMDG 777-300 flying low over Manhattan in New York X scenery :) Then I get Out of memory.
What are all the tweaks you use froogle?
It varies. I broke my sim with a bunch of plugin tweaks and config tweaks this week - this video was recorded after re-installing. Currently I'm running nVidia Inspector, HighMemFix, WideViewAspect and AffinityMask, and that's it.
For those using the steam edition, you can access your FPS in the steam settings.
Please guys can you help me with some FPS issues,
I have :
-i5 660 processor
-12Gigs of Ram
-Nvidia gt610 2GB
with all that I am running FSX with 8-12 fps , which is very frustrating, I tried teaking the Afinity mask but nothing diference?
Labied Abderrahim FPS issues are not something that can be resolved through a UA-cam back and forth. I would suggest you follow the steps in this video, clear your config and work through Kostas' tweaking guide measuring the impact of each change.
frooglesim It's really good to hear from you Froogle I really appreciate it, Well at the moment that's what I am doing following Kosta's guide, still running it like 5-11 fps, What I need to know is, what are the tweaks that affect to CPU ? and a little question,Is my rig sufficient enough to run FSX on 25-30FPS.
My rig :
-i5 660 processor
-12Gigs of Ram
-Nvidia gt610 2GB
Labied Abderrahim FSX is 8 years old. Compared to when it was released your PC is state of the art so yes it can run it. I don't recall which specific changes are CPU dependent (all of them I suspect) and I think you'd be able to read the document faster than if you wait for me to read it and then type up what I just read. If your performance is that terrible you might also consider deleting FSX and starting over. For hitting 25-30 that's highly dependent on the scenery, aircraft, weather etc. Good luck with your tuning. Please consider also turning to experts on forums for help as UA-cam is not a good medium for troubleshooting and there are usually people on forums with a lot more experience and time than I have.
That's really helpful thanks!
i've been simming now for about 13 years. i'm 'expert' ( instrument) level. in addition to having done a hefty' amount of 'outside' study, reading, studying, etc... on flying, procedures, IFR, charts, use of checklists and cockpit instrument understanding. probably have about 8 thousand hours since 2002. must say, after watching all this, and all the "computer" tasking and 'tweaking', changing of .CFG files, this and that, opening this, downloading that, and on, and on, and on...... in my estimation, all this, is actually more arduous, boring and time consuming, than...."Flying the actual god damn airplane itself. holy crap...... i got dizzy and utterly disinterested at about 2 minutes in, with all the extraneous, endless "Shit'...that optimally running a Flight Sim now, seems to demand of you, to 'have a good experience' anymore? whew..... just don't know if i'd want to undertake all that computer 'busy-work' before i could 'have fun' flying an aircraft in FSX.
Cool story bro.
hey thanks bro
I agree wasting hundreds of hours to download search and adjust adjust adjust tweak tweak tweak. I have done this hamster wheel madness since buying FSX 7 years ago but no more.
I have hundreds of scenery and planes for fs9 and with some converted FSX ground textures in FS9 it looks and performs good too with no tweaking and aggravation.
I have been doing FS since 1998 never before not even FS 2000 caused me so much aggravation as FSX. I have the sim but use FS9 mainly in my opinion FSX is a sim for millionaires who can afford to constantly throw large sums of money into new hardware every 2 years
Hi Froogle, I have a problem with FSX that I can't seem to get answered. Maybe you can shed some light on it. FSX runs OK but all the scenery has lots & lots of large black boxes all over. Even when I'm flying a mission flight. Have you heard of this before? I run a lot of Orbx scenery so I unchecked them all and the boxes are still there. I know you are very busy, but I don't know were else to look. Thanks.
+Bill Drexel Sounds like in the graphics options you have chosen Directx 10 Preview mode. If that's the case, turn it off.
+frooglesim Thanks so much for getting back to me so fast. Your the best. And yes Directx 10 was the problem. I did have it on for some time with no problem, but in the last week the problem started. I turned it off and the black boxes are gone. Thanks again. I knew I could count on you.
You're welcome Bill
Im doing it now #frooglesim . Thanks a LOT!
How do you know the right affinity mask number for your system?
Hey Luke. Kostas explains it at kostasfsworld.wordpress.com/fsx-software-and-hardware-guide/. Quad core with hyper threading off = 14. With hyper threading on = 84 if you want to use the physical cores only. 252 if you want to also use the hyper threads.
frooglesim And waht makes it so frustrating for us users is post like this; www.simforums.com/forums/the-fsx-computer-system-bible-in-pdf-format_topic46757_post284247.html#284247 in which NickN states: My thoughts on affinity mask is: I have never, ever seen a single system I have setup need that edit..... Affinity Mask in a modern system- IF IT TRULY makes a defined difference in users system: that means something in the users individual installation is hitting core0 TOO HARD and moving FSX to the next core will help. This is something that can be seen if a user runs programs other than FSX at the same time, OR, something in their OS or program startup system is hitting the CPU and the user simply does not have the TECH ABILITY to figure out what it is and shut it down.
Ah, Tecj ability, lol, now I see why I might have a problem.
Thanks Froogle
frooglesim Another interesting bit of information: Now, if you happen to use a lot of programs at the same time with FSX running you can actually make a change that will have far more efficiency and produce a better result than affinity mask by using the Windows TASK MANAGER. Launch FSX and all the programs you intend to use with it such as weather engines or other support applications and then launch the Windows Task Manager.. find ALL the support programs EXE files in the PROCESS LIST, right click them and select SET AFFINITY. When the box appears uncheck ALL but the LAST CORE for the programs you started running along side FSX and leave FSX alone and don't use affinity mask. I know you, Froogle, have most other programs running on another machine so maybe Affinity Mask is not right for you. So many experts, so many different approaches.
What is High Mem Fix?
Jon Martinez A change you can make to fsx.ini to enable it to more effectively make use of memory on modern computers.
What's the point of this video? Letting the com go smoothly during the harsh addons or is it just improving some fps? I don't really get it what the tweaks are for
+유재혁 By spreading support apps onto another computer you free up processing power on the main computer. That can result in higher FPS, but it also delivers a number of other benefits such as being able to run the sim in full screen mode but still have access to interact with other apps without having to alt-tab or pause.
It would be nice if you could find a cheap pc with low performance..and try tweaking and make a decent fps running 737 ngx with a addon airport
That's actually a REALLY good idea. Hmmm...
Nice idea - also you really do not need a system over £800 really for FSX, after using Froogle's great method I'm running a £600 PC in the same scenario on the video at an average of 39fps (just saying for those of you keen on saving money ;D )
Not forgetting to mention average 45fps with the PMDG 777 :)
I have 2 systems in different locations running FSX plus a raft of add-ons - an i5 4670K @ 4.4GHz with 8GB RAM and a 2GB GTX670 which I built last year, plus an E8400 Core 2 Duo @ 3.6GHz with 4GB RAM and a 1GB HD5850 which I built 5 years ago. The i5 system uses a 1980x1080 monitor and the E8400 uses a 1680x1050. I've tweaked both systems as best I could using online guides and forums, appreciating that each system will benefit from different tweaks due to different processors, etc. I also limited both systems to 30FPS. Anyway, it always impresses me how well the 5 year old E8400 performs, hanging on in there at mid-high 20s FPS-wise. It does get rather warm though...
yea but 3.6ghz 4.4 ghz is pretty good though..I'm talking something @2.5ghz, I'm getting 8 to 10 fps in 737 ngx cockpit..with just bit tweaking, I'm trying to get to 11 fps min in cockpit or atleast 9 fps
Hi Pete.
I do not know did you notice with your second tweak [BUFFERPOOLS]
Usepools=0 you wrote in fsx cfg UsePools=0 maybe that was problem you could not make next test.But away Thanks for your help how improve FSX.
you are correct. I left the error in there to show how the method used here helps you easily identify what went wrong when you do make a mistake.
I'm pleased I could help my FSX Guru.
hey Frooglesim just watch your video and i see you having problems with Bufferpools. on my machine it works fine without problems and i see that you add capital P on ( userPools ) when it should had be ( userpools ). tip use Poolsize=0. with capital P instead of userpools.
I may be incorrect but I see a difference in the spelling in the Bufferpool tweak addition as follows......UsePools=0 vs Usepools=0, which may account for the game not responding correctly.
Jack Smith Yup - it's been pointed out quite a lot in the comments in the year or so since this video was put live.
Thank you a lot:D
Why didn't you pan around the cockpit? That's a good way of testing frames..
It's also not repeatable. You can't guarantee on every single run through that you will change the view at the same rate, angles etc etc every single test, and thus it will invariably screw with the results. If you are going to follow a scientific approach to measurement then you have to follow pure and repeatable steps.
Hey froogle! Great video, i know your very bussy but if you have any time please tell us how you set up NVidia inspector,
Keep up the great work!! :D
Take a look through forum.avsim.net/topic/324786-nvidia-configuration-guide-inspector-2xxxx-drivers-version-20-explanations-of-all-settings/
i changed just the two settings in fsx.cfg but fsx crashes at startup
remove the changes, and if that doesn't work delete the cfg
thx froogle... I deleted the HIGHMEMFIX=1 line and it is okay...will try the other tweeks and see what happens
Frooglesim, thank you so much. I added bufferpools and gained 5+ FPS! Amazing.
+Sma Tube only 5?? i used other tweaks and have 103 fps in p3d v3.2
Silver CrestLP specs?
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pc specs?
Intel Core I7 6700K with 4x 4,70 GHz
Nvidia Geforce GTX 970
Crucial 8 GB DDR4-2133 Dual Kit
1 TB Seagate Desktop HDD
MSI Z170A Mainboard
Corsair Hydro Series H110I
Be Quiet Pure Power L8 500W
2x 500 GB Samsung 850 Evo SSD
Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-01
2x Samsung S24E391HL with 1920x1080
If you want i can send you the links where i buy my pc specs
You have a JetBrains plugin for Chrome, are you a developer too?
Yes I am a developer too.
frooglesim Cool!
What are your specs? Excellent vid!
krelshell4 My specs can be found at ua-cam.com/users/frooglesimabout
whats a tweak?
Imagine the average person going into the store, picking up FSX and say, "let me try this". Boy...are they in for a big surprise! Nice video for veterans though!
James Lyon hey mate, he did this before. U can check his ealy videos. Thanks frooglesim Cheers!
can see your Nvidia Inspector Setting ?
albert7293 My settings are the same as the ones in Kostas Tweaking guide.
frooglesim ok Thanks mate
thanks a lot !!
How can I unhide my appdata folder?
+iiMrLuckyX Press the Windows key on your keyboard, type in "Folder" and you'll see an option appear for folder settings. It's in there.
+frooglesim Thx alot froogle...
How do u downl8ad rex
You head over to your favorite online store, hand over a credit card, buy it, and they provide you with a link to download and a valid serial number.
Nice!
But what I do: use FSPS FSX booster, which does all stuff for me via a nice gui interface. That one works very good for me at least/
I used to use that, but in the long term it didn't work out for me. It injects a lot into FSX outside of simple fsx.cfg changes and I found it to be very limiting.
is this work with dx10?
***** It's a fairly scientific approach to let you accurately measure the effect of any change on your simulators performance. So yes, it will work with DX10. More to the point you can use it when switching to DX10 to see if you really are getting performance or not.
alright!
thx for the replies!