Rapido Trains UK 15XX Rant!

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  • @ralphwallis1017
    @ralphwallis1017 7 днів тому +6

    I feel your frustration. They should honour the warranty. They are at fault. They made you so upset, it’s not right. Love your channel, keeep going.

  • @andrewstevenson5449
    @andrewstevenson5449 5 днів тому +2

    Good to see an honest opinion, rather than trying to skirt round issues by concentrating on the good points. The key thing for an model railway locomotive or rolling stock is does it run on something other than the manufacturer's test track. Just seems to be too much emphasis by manufacturers these days on silly little added extras that only serve to bump up the price.

  • @malcolmmyatt9092
    @malcolmmyatt9092 3 дні тому +2

    Hi Julian, I have this model from Rapido with more or less the same problems, it just will not depend an incline smoothly. I sent mine back and they replaced the chassis as claimed in the accompanying letter. Unfortunately this didn’t really fix the issues completely. It still won’t depend an incline smoothly and still wobbles side to side, I don’t mind the slight wobble and now don’t run it up or down the incline. I decided to keep it because it looks great but it sits on my layout mostly as an ornament. I have a few quite old Hornby models which I converted to dcc which run perfectly. This for me throws into question whether the motors are really up to the job..? One thing for sure, I won’t be in a hurry to buy anything from Rapido in the near future. If ever again. But, and a big but, they are not the only maker that charge far too much money for what I term as junk. Another honest UA-camr does give honest opinion and reviews new models. Sams Trains. Always worth a view to get an idea about the models he has also spent good money on which turn out to be expensive junk. Love your Chanel and attention to detail Julian. Good luck with your loco. I’m hoping they will replace it for you with a perfectly good model.

  • @huwevans2653
    @huwevans2653 7 днів тому +2

    One of the reasons I enjoy your channel IS your amazing attention to detail and quiet, gentle commentary, So to hear your rant was such a joy, well done, these company's need to be called out, especially with the eye watering amount of money they charge. When someone as genital and considerate as yourself, has to resort to Anglo Saxon (very appropriately in my view) you know something is very wrong. Keep up the good work.

  • @johncraggs3155
    @johncraggs3155 7 днів тому +2

    Julian, a truly honest review of this 15XX. Thanks for warning others about it. Best of luck in retrieving a refund.😊

  • @ajmatthews7700
    @ajmatthews7700 6 днів тому +2

    Wow! That thing's a lemon. I hope you get a refund.

  • @michaeltrotman6960
    @michaeltrotman6960 7 днів тому +1

    It's about time someone said what they actually thought of a model you pay so much money for these things you expect it to be perfect I'm with you you put that so well thank you

  • @richardlee653
    @richardlee653 День тому

    Interesting video. Sorry to hear of your experiences. I haven't got anything from Rapido yet, but I have a Rapido E1 on pre-order from Kernow. The impression that I had was that Rapido was well thought-of as a manufacturer.

  • @UndergroundEric
    @UndergroundEric 2 дні тому +3

    You were doing well til you said about accurascale, theyve had their fair share of problems too.
    Thankfully both companies with newer releases seem to be doing better

  • @stephenmarshall9574
    @stephenmarshall9574 18 годин тому

    It might be a good idea to try fitting Alan Gibson plunger pickups. I’ve used them before several times in DJH kits and have never had an issue with them.

  • @user-kw7yv2gi7d
    @user-kw7yv2gi7d День тому

    Thanks for the heads up Julian. I was actually thinking about getting one of these, but will not do so now. I agree about Accurascale being top notch. Defo a 'go to' company. All the best and thank you for your honest and detailed review.

  • @dexterdog62
    @dexterdog62 7 днів тому +2

    And my 65 year old Tri-ang locomotives just keep on rolling problem free. This is the problem with the hobby these days. Over-engineered yet poorly designed mechanisms. Yes the detail levels on current models are impressive, but I am more than happy to have less detail and simpler motors that are easy to service and much more reliable.

  • @PaulSmith-pl7fo
    @PaulSmith-pl7fo 7 днів тому +1

    Hi Julian. I've always wanted to be fluent in French (LOL)! No, really. I fully understand your frustration. Rapido should just hold their hands up.

  • @muir8009
    @muir8009 День тому

    Hate to say this Julian but you were never going to have joy with those plunger pick-ups especially in the future. Reason is Rivarossi used them for many years on their later steamers (yes they're a fail, even if better implemented than Rapido) as the tiny springs are the electrical paths as well, and as time goes on the springs lose their tension especially with power running through them and not only gradually lose contact, but the power also causes the minute plunger housings to distort as well.
    Someone above did mention that the first year triang rovex princess had plungers, and of course the dublo 3 rail 8f and castle, however not only were these basically unique, they were also very robust (being massive) and heavily engineered. The prewar lionel bildamotor as used in some standard gauge locomotives e.g the 381 used a plunger to provide the contact between the roller pickup plate and the brush lead: these also are notoriously prone to fail, due to again power consumption weakening the springs.
    It's just plungers can work, in some situations as an idea, but the reality is they don't function well in practice.
    Triang did their plungers for budgetary concerns: they could run all plastic wheels with no expensive metal bits.
    Dublo did theirs as the diecast six wheel tenders didn't allow space for their normal 3 rail pick-up in the tender.
    Lionel did theirs as, inferred by the name, the bildamotor was intended to be taken apart and put together by the youthful owner as a learning experience, part of the hobby.
    Rivarossi did theirs because they are Italian and just wanted to see if they could improve pick-ups (fair enough as there wasn't a precedent) but Rivarossi learnt.
    Rapido? Absolutely no reason as it's all been tried before and didn't work. Did Rapido think theirs would be the best? Mighty ambitious thinking that what they would produce would be perfect...

  • @hotdogpilot6319
    @hotdogpilot6319 7 днів тому +3

    Every company occasionally produces a Turkey, in Rapido's case it's the 15XX. Every other model I've had from them is excellent so I'm not prepared to throw them under the bus for one turd. I'm not excusing it but I tend to judge the whole range over one black mark.

    • @raymondleggs5508
      @raymondleggs5508 День тому

      Hornby will never be able to live down the old hush hush and the Mazak rot era in some peoples eyes

    • @1Klooch
      @1Klooch День тому

      Even the venerable Kato famous for quality and reliability had their dog in the early runs of the N scale GS-4. Poor quality gearing, built in shorting problems. Have never felt quite the same about their products since.

  • @northwesttrainsmodels
    @northwesttrainsmodels День тому

    very interesting video, i bought 3 rapido locos last year, one was the hunslet which got sent back twice because it kept stalling even on straight and level track and the 2nd time it came back it had marks on the paintwork so i just ended up getting a refund the 2nd was lion which started of ok but then stopped working and send it back to rapido i got a new tender for it and presume it was the tender connection that was to blame, seems ok since, the pannier tank had glue marks all over it and a few chips on the paint work and the buffer beams fell of after being run a few times, i was that fed up of contacting rapido and sending locos backwards and forwards i decided to keep it, i must admit it runs much better but that doesnt excuse all the quality control issues, i was tempted by the new s160 loco but am very reluctant to pre order any more especially with the high price this model is going for, thanks for sharing. Tom

  • @barrystark3603
    @barrystark3603 7 днів тому +1

    Well done. Triang had plunger pick-ups in the late 50s

  • @vernongardner1958
    @vernongardner1958 7 днів тому +1

    Haha. Believe me when I say that I''m truly sorry to hear of your issues with your 15XX and Rapido Trains UK. For someone who seems so collect and perhaps a tad reserved, it is a bit amusing to see you so enraged. Go Julian go and let off that steam!! Seriously though, thank for sharing and the warning to others. I was looking forward to getting a forthcoming model from Rapido Trains UK but after seeing yours and other people's issues, then I'm not prepared to even put down a pre-order deposit until I've actually seen a good review of the model I want. If that means I don't get one in the main run then so be it. I'll either wait for a re-run or wait for something to appear on the second hand market. £200+ for the rubbish that you've shared with us, is simply not on for the average modeller. I hope Rapido take note and change their ways, otherwise, I do not rate their future prosperity.

  • @Shauniboy1984
    @Shauniboy1984 День тому

    Hi matey, I saw nothing but bad reviews on this model. Its a real shame, my hunslet is really good, just took a lot of running in. Ive got the j70 and pannier, the pannier is actually brilliant. Ive also got the stirling single, which is very delicate and doesnt enjoy certain track setups. I really think these guys have the best intentions, and Ive had great customer service on a 5 year old model, but like any of the manufacturers these days, they all seem to have duds. Cheers Shaun

  • @stephencameron4032
    @stephencameron4032 3 дні тому

    Hello Julian, sorry to hear about your experience with this model,I wonder, are manufacturers over-complicating things to an unnecessary degree these days?, when you think about it, the thing that made the old Tri-ang and Hornby-Dublo locos successful was simplicity, I wonder how many of the super-detailed being made today will still be going strong in 60 years time,who knows?, anyway I hope you have more luck with the Hunslet, just going to like and sub, take care, all the best from, Scotland, Stephen.

  • @anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204
    @anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204 7 днів тому

    good vid trains keep up the good vids you do thanks lee

  • @JPoulAndersson
    @JPoulAndersson 7 днів тому

    Nice rant, I completely feel your frustration Julian. Rapido should really have created a better design. Funny hearing you swear too hehe😊 Rgds from Holland, Joachim

  • @stevethompson9862
    @stevethompson9862 День тому

    My tram locomotive is going back to the shop for the second time.

  • @monsvillerailways5736
    @monsvillerailways5736 7 днів тому

    Good on you.
    Haha Julian 😅
    Don't hold back...
    Why don't you tell it how it is?! 😅
    Fantastic review! Up front and honest, exactly how it should be!
    Hope the other one is a whole lot better. 🤞
    Good luck.
    Stay safe and happy modelling
    Mon

  • @OlivierGabin
    @OlivierGabin 7 днів тому +1

    Ouch ! I've bought two of them... As far as it goes, both runs correctly, shall I consider myself as lucky ?
    Anyway, such quality problems are unacceptable. Your unit should not had left the factory anytime...
    Well, if mines goes awry, at least, I know where the problem would be !
    As you said, in model trains, good designs are not convoluted. Thanks for your video.

  • @IronHorseRailways
    @IronHorseRailways 7 днів тому +1

    Agh, mate that's a shame as, it's a beautiful looking thing - but you can't ignore issues like this...
    I hope you get something sorted mate 😢
    Though, Rapido may refuse as you've taken it apart ...

  • @raymondleggs5508
    @raymondleggs5508 День тому

    Rapido Should have stuck with the wiper contact, it's only a 130 year tried and true method for powering model locomotives.

  • @PlatformONE
    @PlatformONE 19 годин тому

    I would've sent it back to where you brought it from, without opening the locomotive.

  • @Nick-vr2pf
    @Nick-vr2pf День тому

    Had purchased myself one of these and sent to the US. Wobbly runner and fouled detail, glue marks etc. Hardly ran it, and would have cost over $150USD to send back for warranty. Cut my losses and sold it off at a great discount. Not impressed by Rapido, aside from my Stirling Single which runs beautifully.

  • @alanwagstaff16
    @alanwagstaff16 7 днів тому +1

    My local model shop had a problem with these locos had send some back.

  • @gordonmcillroy455
    @gordonmcillroy455 6 днів тому +1

    It maybe that you voided the warranty by taking it apart etc. However they are required to provide a product that is of merchantable quality and fit for purpose which they have not. Your cheque should be in the post!

  • @ModelRailwaysUnlimited
    @ModelRailwaysUnlimited 5 днів тому

    And that's why I cancelled my E1 orders

  • @Sandlingjunction
    @Sandlingjunction 7 днів тому

    I feel for you chum, sadly some companies push out crap on unsuspecting buyers, without fully testing and checking the designs and the processes that mean that it will function correctly for the end user. This is a prime example of profits over we don't really give a ****. There is a trading law that products have to be fit for purpose in the UK, your loco although now modified was reported on the issue before it was so changed. There is a paper trail attesting to this fact. Rapeedo should be concerned with helping clients not pushing them away, and they, I feel are duty-bound to refund you, forgetting all the lost time and therefore money in trying to sort out their crap. cheers Paul

  • @smhorse
    @smhorse День тому

    'Tis true what they say: "You should never meet your heroes. You'll only be disappointed."
    I prefer kitbuilding. At least any mistakes then are your own.

  • @user-vg2uu3ip8m
    @user-vg2uu3ip8m 7 днів тому

    Hi Julian, I feel for you. I'm in total agreement with you in the urge to want this model. It is a fantastic looking locomotive. But you don't just want to look at it. You want to see it run. If you wanted a static model, I'm sure there would be someone who makes it for far less of your hard earned monies. Unfortunately, or perhaps now, fortunately, I don't run DCC, I have a lot of old locos, and I'm trying to build kit ones, which means that the chassis is a return path for the voltage, or is that current?, I'm useless at electrics!, plus an expense to convert them all. A great concept which I wish was thought about many, many years ago. Perhaps, as I've mentioned before, plunger pickups have the disadvantage of having to remove the wheels to adjust them correctly, a very sore point in your case. It really is a great shame about this, and it will make me think long and hard about getting one. In a few years time if Rapido doesn't fix this issue, there will be loads for peanuts on a well-known auction site, perhaps that will be the only positive outcome!! I just hope that someone from Rapido watches your exceptional channel, fixes the issues, and has the decency to send you a fully fitted and working locomotive with maybe some form of additional compensation. Good luck, Lawrence

  • @sardine158
    @sardine158 7 днів тому

    Sorry to hear that Julian. It's very disappointing that the Class 15 is proving to be a lemon... There are others on UA-cam that have had problems too. Very, very sad.

  • @andyhubble8487
    @andyhubble8487 7 днів тому

    Nice honestly Julian, it’s a shame Rapido gave this project to a designer when the wheel was invented once before. Thank god they haven’t released an N gauge version that I’m aware of. What’s wrong with tried and tested wipers .? Keep up the good and very neat work

  • @arthurthorpe5445
    @arthurthorpe5445 7 днів тому

    All I can say is thank you.

  • @mickeybarrass3625
    @mickeybarrass3625 7 днів тому

    Wow Julian, that was some rant. Sounded totally justified Sounds like a job to send for 00 Bill, to have a look at, not rapido.

  • @newlynnrailway
    @newlynnrailway 7 днів тому

    Your quite right to vent your frustration, You`ve been through the mill with this one, if they don`t refunde you I`d do a Credit card chargeback if you can, It`s not fit for purpose.

  • @christopherclarke9316
    @christopherclarke9316 7 днів тому

    👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍Bore it up'em Kiwi.

  • @birtle123
    @birtle123 7 днів тому

    What sometimes looks amazing on a computer screen isn't always the same in the real world, especially if the designer never had to assemble it themselves. Sams Trains gave this five stars for the mechanism ...........but then he never had to dismantle it.

  • @fredjcarss7788
    @fredjcarss7788 7 днів тому

    Think I will try to keep clear of Rapido.

  • @stephenbromley2302
    @stephenbromley2302 7 днів тому

    I was looking to buy one of these

  • @nigelericogden3200
    @nigelericogden3200 7 днів тому

    Blimey … it’s not like you to swear Julian … I’ve got one, but I’m scared to run it …
    I’ll give it a go … but … in the end I’ll keep it as a static model.
    I’m sorry to hear of your frustrations, it is a beautiful looking locomotive.

  • @bluebellModelrailway
    @bluebellModelrailway 7 днів тому

    If it's not broke why fix it... those plunger pickups when kit building there's a choice plunger pickups which I don't like or the wiper pickups ... I don't understand why they move to this system when the wiper pickups work just fine.
    Romford plunger pickups weren't great either.

  • @paulmarmion358
    @paulmarmion358 7 днів тому

    Well said mate 👍

  • @_RandomPea
    @_RandomPea 7 днів тому

    One thing I've noticed on all modern locos is a trend to make them almost impossible to self maintain, so that you actually void the warranty.
    It's nice to see someone not bashing Hornby for once 😂
    They are all in my view crooks. They are essentially toys made of mass produced parts and plastic, and somehow get folks to pay near eye watering £££ for them!!

  • @henrycummins764
    @henrycummins764 3 дні тому

    Mine kept failing because of the fucked up esu lok sound 5 decoder

  • @mobius8002
    @mobius8002 День тому

    Don't bachmann do a 15xx?

  • @raymondleggs5508
    @raymondleggs5508 День тому

    Locomotives cost as much as a Car payment, Ultilities or rent. They should not be so bad, for that price.

  • @paulrockingham6625
    @paulrockingham6625 7 днів тому

    nothing wrong with having a rant, good for you for telling it as it is, but surely they would know you have to disect the whole thing to install the plungers and if they know that, then it cant affect your warranty, if it does then smash it into little bits with a big hammer with a note saying...now you fix the bloody thing

  • @justinclayton3022
    @justinclayton3022 7 днів тому

    Sad that this poorly designed loco is causing such frustration. Detail, in the visible places, is what we as modellers, desire. But complicated designs on the inside lead to problems and difficult to maintain models. Keep it simple. Very justified rant IMO.

  • @kellypaws
    @kellypaws 7 днів тому

    These days, I like *watching* steam locos run round the layout, but I much prefer *owning* diesels. This is a stinker of a design, but it's not alone.

  • @gc7820
    @gc7820 2 дні тому

    I sent 2 duds back then gave up and had a refund

  • @JamesNagington
    @JamesNagington 7 днів тому

    Do you have a swear jar in your house 😂 of so looks like you will have a good holiday from that video 😂

  • @johnstephens649
    @johnstephens649 7 днів тому

    Whilst I feel your pain, in a strange way it was quite revealing watching and hear you loose the plot in a calm and considered way! What I don’t understand is how a relatively new manufacturer can produce such a troubled model? Surely they have to be better than best to fight off the big boys like Hornby and Bachmann so can’t need this sort of bad press? Comparisons with Accurascale who seem to produce differently seem fair. Please review the Hunslet as you want this to be an isolated case. I have a Rapido Met E class on pre-order and am now going to search UA-cam for Rapido loco reviews. I really want to see generally good stuff but am also ready to cancel the order…

  • @Haymarket47
    @Haymarket47 7 днів тому

    Shocking design. They should do a recall like they do with cars and sort it once and for all. Given your normal, calm demeanor it’s obvious that this sorry episode has cost you a lot of money and time as well as frustration.

  • @andrewcalladine2507
    @andrewcalladine2507 7 днів тому

    And people complain about Hornby.

  • @alanwagstaff16
    @alanwagstaff16 7 днів тому

    I nearly got one of these locos . But at the last minute I changed my mind and then started watching people reviews on said bit of junk. What a waste of time and money.

  • @modelrailroader5619
    @modelrailroader5619 2 дні тому

    I live in Canada and I have bought one Rapido engine. I will not buy another.

  • @Gscalenut
    @Gscalenut 7 днів тому +1

    I have several Rapido locomotives and after the last two purchases, the 15XX, I will never purchase another Rapido model as I cannot trust the engineering that has gone into the model. The plunger power pickup arrangement is too fine to handle the amperage that may occur with a short circuit, fusing the plunger in its casing. My Rapido models stay cocooned in their factory packaging, never to be used. Such a disappointment. Do not get me started on the EFE-Rail CC1 "booster", a poorly engineered and assembled model.

    • @Shauniboy1984
      @Shauniboy1984 День тому

      99 quid on sale already - EFE locos are generally just garbage

  • @johnchild5246
    @johnchild5246 День тому

    I think sams trains gave the loco a thumbs down as well

  • @4994DowntonHall
    @4994DowntonHall 7 днів тому

    Oh dear. In all the years being subscribed, I think this is angriest you've been, and rightfully so. Unfortunately returning items to the UK is a faff, and mechanical design should be robust. Take care.

  • @Gscalenut
    @Gscalenut 7 днів тому

    You obviously have the talent and experience to reassemble the model but at the end of the day why bother as you are delaying the inevitable. The model needs re-engineering with finger style pickups.

  • @steveg3981
    @steveg3981 7 днів тому

    Wow. Shocking product. Hope Rapido refunds you.

  • @brianrobson1481
    @brianrobson1481 2 дні тому

    I enjoy your channel but how disappointing you used the F word which i feel was totally inappropriate and i feel unable to continue despite your warning.Very sad you went down to that level.

  • @mobius8002
    @mobius8002 День тому

    Too many locos these days are too fiddly and complicated using gimmicks like silly DCC sounds and trying to fit too much in. They need to go back to reliability and value .bachmann Hornby etc have there problems but not like this effort.

  • @JohnJohnson-cn9fh
    @JohnJohnson-cn9fh День тому

    overpriced,badly designed,i have old triang loco,s that are better runners,the beach boys once did a song ,no go showboat that was about a car,this sums up this loco,sorry you have had such problems...........................jpj

  • @1701_FyldeFlyer
    @1701_FyldeFlyer 7 днів тому +1

    Dontcare how frustrated you are with the loco, I dont expect to hear such profanities on a model railway channel. Unsubscribed.

    • @StationRoadModelRailway
      @StationRoadModelRailway  7 днів тому +5

      All the warnings were their and clearly displayed so you had advanced warning not to watch if you're adverse to profanities. You're choice to unsubscribe.

    • @Ron_Ventura
      @Ron_Ventura 5 днів тому +3

      What a delicate flower. They were warned. The level of frustration must be enormous to elicit that sort of language from someone as gentle as yourself. Well done Julian. Brutal honesty.