What is white supremacy? - A Response to Steven Crowder
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2019
- Yep, that's a reference to the Carlos Maza situation at the end, there. UA-cam needs to do better.
Content warning: all the racisms. all of them
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I work in a shop, I once said to a customer ‘aren’t we all just human beings?’ He said ‘that’s a very liberal attitude’. It’s liberal to believe/know we are all humans. It’s a very scary world
Elle Fifificii oh god. What has the world come to?
@spujpij What does it imply?
@spujpij I actually came up with a probable scenario for someone saying something like that after 10 secs. The customer is complaining about someone at the shop making a mistake, boom "aren't we all just human beings?" and I'm curious how it can possibly deligitimise differences when it means the exact oposite.
@spujpij Uh, fascists are definitely reactionary, they are trying to get back to a mythologised past which never really existed. Oh, they have revolutionary aspects to them, too, but they're very heavy on the reactionary themes which they then refract through a lens of pageantry (pomp and ceremony)
@@mduckernz This is true and all but I would like to point out there is zero point arguing with this guy. He's not about to change his mind and anyone who is "on the fence" about fascism is probably going to side with him. Really the only proper response to these people is to give em the old Richard Spenser treatment. Deplatforming and outright hostility up to and including violence is the only valid response. It's self-defense. Arguing with fascists legitimizes their views. They don't care about facts and logic and will just gish gallop dumbfounded opponents and look smart to dumb people.
'White supremacist' is too vague a term but 'THE LEFT!' is completely legitimate and succinct... righteo.
@@Sluppie damn,, really makes u think
Yes, it is succinct. To a comical fault.
"I'm willing to admit there are some crazies who support Trump, but the Democrats are all a bunch of leftists" -actual line from an argument I got into with a conservative a few months ago.
both are dumb. you get it right?
Shit. Did you know Ben Shapiro is a nazi and Candance Owens a white supremacist.
"They were starved to death, not gassed" Oh. That's much better.
People will defend that as "starvation was unintentional!!!"
That’s a common argument made by Holocaust deniers. The thing is, the victims dying from disease outbreaks or malnutrition still count as genocide as the Nazis enabled them to suffer those conditions by placing them in camps in the first place.
that's actually probably worse
Starved to death and being outright murder still counts as the same
In that aspect, the Americans that were starved to death in Japanese concentration camps weren't all that bad either.
My dad's side of the family is polish and they moved away from Poland in the 40s cause. You Know. And my Dad told me an interesting anecdote when I was still in High School that goes like this:
There are ten good men at a table. Another man walks up and says, "excuse me gentlemen, got room for a Nazi?" He sits down, and one man walks away. What do you have left?
One good man and a table of Nazis.
That's a good anecdote.
oh thats interesting.
"if there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people are sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis"
@@Ann-mj4xn You missed the part where one man walked away.
@@fyraltari1889 It's a simillar saying from Germany
Shaun: “I suggest you watch his video first...”
Me: “No, I don’t think I will.”
I don't have medication strong enough to suffer watching a crowder vid.
@@IRocaNox You are the hero we needed, but didn't deserve! 😉
@@IRocaNox I Can Stomach Crowder A Little. I'd Be Left With Less Brain Cells Than Stefan Himself If I Watched His Shit Though.
Seriously. I can feel my brain cells committing suicide one by one when subjected to his vitriol.
Praise Geraldo
"holocaust deniers don't deny it happened. they just say it wasn't bad" That's about as genius level as "Flat-earthers don't think the earth is flat. they just think it's not as round"
Its actualy the other way around, they say it didnt happen but they wish it did.
@@forcanisso1639 Think that's about on target..
I'm actual Holocaust denier, ask me anything.
@@gundude82 Do you deny it happened, or do you say it wasn't bad?
@@gundude82 What about systematic murder of Soviet POWs?
A lot of people in concentration camps did starve to death, because they had to do very physically challenging slave labor and were given basically no food. So that dude is basically saying, yeah, it totally makes it better that a bunch of innocent people didn't get straight up killed but instead mistreated horribly until they died. What a great, rational person.
It says a lot that his opinion is basically "well at least we got some work out of them before we killed them based on their race, that makes things a whole lot better"
Imo forced labor/slavery is a worst thing to do to a person than just straight up killing them. They are both horrible but the dead no longer suffer while the enslaved will suffer some of the most painful existience one can have.
they legit did something morraly worse than killing them
How could he even think that’s a defense? It’s still genocide.
And that’s… still genocide. (Provided the murder of an entire culture was the goal, even if secondary to free labor). Fucking idiotic
“I’m not a racist, I’m a racialist”
I died laughing when I heard that
ikr. like are they Frank Reynolds wtf
ikr. Nazis like "I'm not a 'Paleo-Nazi' I'm a Neo-Nazi" or white racists "I'm not a white supremacist I'm a white superiorist".
Then how did you manage to type this comment?
OMG Ghosts are real!
“I’m not a Racist, I’m a Race Realist”
- Steven Crowder, probably
i have to stop reading comments in the middle of videos. there is no fucking way he said that 😭
15:20 Stefan: "I felt safe having a debate in a mostly white country."
So you could say it was... a safe space?
Well, Ido not perceive Poland as a safe space, personally. Maybe because I'm an atheist far-leftist man :p
right-wing safe space: a nation with low murder rates, no "trucks of peace", and media not controlled by a perfidious alien tribe of coin-clippers.
left-wing safe space: a tumblr blog where you can pretend to be whatever unicorn gender you made up last week
i know it's subtle, but see the difference?
@@Normie_Normalson Boomer
@@dinnersandvich9329 hippie boomers are the reason we're in this idiotic mess
I guess white supremacists don’t think Poland is an economically backwards Slavic cesspool anymore. Can you say ‘opportunism?’
I like how Southern admitted that she has personal knowledge of Stormfront in-jokes, then spent two minutes trying to walk it back, and succeeded in making it even clearer.
@Scribbler Squire Really bad at reporting, but pretty racist?
@Scribbler Squire Bones aren't racist, but her brain and yours? Pretty racist.
Scribbler Squire She’s not a racist, she just peddles racially-based conspiracies about the need for hostility towards minorities.
@Buffy The Nazi Slayer Legitmtely concerning
@Scribbler Squire RIP
"I know what kind of jokes people make on neonazi forums" is a pretty self-damning statement from Lauren Southern there.
Lauren: “Nobody runs around with Nazi tattoos”
That one random guy: “I’m about to end this woman’s whole career”
1. yes, exactly 2. there are many people who have nazi tattoos/other signs that might not be recognized by "outsiders", it is horrible how many I've seen
Lauren has clearly never been to a Skrewdriver concert and it shows 😂
Shaun! I'm so glad you've recovered from the Brian Force injury 😁
He reverted to his normal form after being possessed by reasonablist bear.
R.I.P. Reasonablist Bear and his mighty bulge ;(
@@nob2243 Man that bulge was Yuuuuuge
What if he didn't recover? What if Reasonablist Bear did die?
- People turn into skulls when they die.
- Shaun is a skull
Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
@@fpedrosa2076 aren't we always skulls? 🤔
What's the difference between a Nazi and a Nazi sympathizer?
One takes longer to say.
@Scribbler Squire Russian bot or actual numbnuts?
@Scribbler Squire have you been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia? You are exhibiting symptoms.
@Scribbler Squire a lot of democratic socialists (like me) criticize capitalism and support free speech, even from hateful idiots (like you)
@Scribbler Squire Nyet, komrade.
@Scribbler Squire Anarchists, famously, love defending racism. I think I read that in Kropotkin.
"I'm not a racist, I'm a shmacist. So anyway, my main issue with people of the black shmace is...."
Lousy Shmarch weather!
When people say Hitler was a "great artist," I wonder if they've seen much art. His paintings were fine. They were better than what I could do. But they're bland. He can't paint anything organic particularly well and his style is better suited to buildings. But he wasn't great at painting buildings, either, since his geometry and relative scales were often off. People that say he was a great painter are usually being edgy or just looking for something apolitical to compliment Hitler on.
And "great writer?" Mein Kampf was a rambling mess. It's more of a barely-edited run-on rant than a proper book. It wasn't "great" by any stretch of the imagination unless you were sympathetic to those "ideas." And I say "ideas" with quotes because they were often too vague and inconsistent to be proper, well-fleshed-out ideas. They were more like broad concepts that had a nebulous, ill-defined form.
In particular, his paintings of buildings do not have a Vanishing Point, which is why the perspective feels so... off. The Vanishing point is a basic concept in painting, and his misuse or non use of it just shows how he did not know what he was doing.
@@Nanox19435 Yeah, his perspective is awful. On houses, none of his windows and doors line up and sometimes the buildings look like they're sliding down a hill.
Why do people have to find things about Hitler to admire, to the point of pretending he was a good painter or writer?
@@emericswitch2718 Best-case scenario, the layman lacks skill in art so is incapable of seeing the flaws in a bad painting that isn’t kindergartener-scribble-level bad. (I can attest to this. Before I started to learn to draw, I never noticed how bad some terrible artists actually were. I literally couldn’t see the flaws until I learned art myself.) Worst-case scenario, they sympathize with Hitler’s social views even if they think genocide was a step too far.
Good enough for art school but greatness is far above
@@MrBrendanRizzo i think they just like to say that they like hitlers art to sound edgy and to try say they like him without outright saying they like him. sort of like a dog whistle to an extent i guess.
i can't believe that i used to watch black pigeon speaks, james allsup and PJW just over a year ago. i'm so glad i found your channels and other channels such as three arrows and knowing better.
have a cookie some time.
What made you switch sides?
The irony is most anarchist and communists began as nazis.
@@wahoo2782 well you have OP who was almost sucked into nazism, but then you have me, I wasnt even 15 when i was obssessed with nazim then i became traditional right wing, then a centrist and now at 18 i have accepted communism into my heart.
I had a classmate and she went through these phases too
You can go around ask some anarcho-communists am sure youll find the same story
@@wahoo2782 actually a lot of the newly converted leftists made their way this way, if they werent full on nazis they were conservatives. And i think that the fact that these transitions are happening actually bring more good light than harm, because most of these coming from the far right are teenagers trying to make sense of the world, and it would just prove that alt-righters rely on feelings than facts which is why many teenagers get sucked in... but as they read more and more they see through the bs they believed. Rendering nazism, just a "teenagd phase"
How precious of Steve Cowder and others conservative hosts to worry so much about the word "nazism" losing its meaning when they basically spend the rest of the time calling democrats or anyone who disagree with them "socialists" and "communists".
I think Nazism is over used and i think most democrats aren't socialists. It's just that the loudest members of the Democrats such as the squad and their activist followers are socialists
Marcus Cooper nope
@@rowanbowan1439 what do you mean nope?
@@thaconnection8201 they're not, unless your knowledge of economics is limited to, "the government does things"
At least Steven will still talk to them. If you are to set in your head about an idea that you aren't willing to engage with the other side about it, you are the bad guy. That's it. If your idea is so weak that you can't even talk about it, without it getting destroyed, how can you hold that belief? Steven ACTIVLY talks to people who he disagrees with, and that's a good thing!
More than anything, I am surprised anyone can unironically call Hitler's art and writing 'good'.
Some of his paintings were pretty good. Better than postmoden art.
To the Strongest Their decent, but I can still see why they aren’t considered great enough to warrant an entry into an art school, also given the time period he was in.
@christopher snedeker Thank you. The whole "Postmodern art bad" circlejerk is really annoying.
Honestly, if Hitler wanted to be an artist by profession he should have kept learning. Like, they have promise, but a lot of the technical aspects of his paintings are shit.
That being said, fuck hitler
Mien Kamph is a horrible read
I like how Shaun starts every "response" video with an invitation to watch whatever they're responding to so you can be sure the creator's views aren't being misrepresented, despite the fact that each video is always scripted and edited in such a way as to virtually eliminate the chance that anyone could reasonably accuse them of this.
Also, the fact that the article from Crowder's website featured such savagery as "leftist ninnymuggins" has me in stitches.
Fuck man I don't know how to recover... I'm a ninnymuggin...
@@SonicKid7 IM CRYING HELPAHHDHDJFIGO
“I’m an empiricist, which is why I base my worldview entirely on anecdotal evidence!”
-Stefan Molyneux
I don’t know. Why does Germany? why does the Netherlands? Why does Sweden? Why does Poland have a higher murder rate than the UK, France, Germany, the Netherlands and Sweden?
@Absolute Mad Lad "Why was Poland not hit with same rate of Islamic terrorism as France and the UK?"
Because why would it be? Not much important shit to blow up here and it's pretty hard to smuggle in weapons.
If you want to perform a terror attack on a place you're not originally from, you don't pick fucking Poland. Why would you? You go to France, Germany, Spain, Italy. The historically and culturally relevant places.
You might as well be asking why were there no terrorist attacks in Moldavia, or Latvia. Because nobody gives a shit.
@Absolute Mad Lad Why are so many Polish citizens quit Poland then ? Poland has many other bigger problems. Organized crimes are big problems there. That's why everything look so "clean".
@@Arrakiz666 Agree. The worst fucked up shit could happened in Poland, It will have less attention than the most basic thing in the U.S. Poland is not marketable for the media despite its rich culture.
We are all empiricist, we all derive experience and knowledge from our senses.
What happens to Molyneux when they decide baldness is a sign of genetic weakness? Justice?
Jcewazhere lol 😂
Forcibly expel the balds 👨🦲
Is it a sign of genetic weakness though?
Fuzzy Dunlop
No, but that doesn’t matter. What matters is that they DECIDED it is.
@@fuzzydunlop7928 Yes. They are less attractive and therefore less capable of creating offspring.
Holy shit, Crowder dressing up as a Chinese man is the most blatantly racist thing I've seen in a while.
Having been fortunate enough to never really see a lot of Crowder's content, I audibly said "what the fuck".
I feel bad for laughing my ass off.
@@joesoldchanneldeprecated5948 it's so ridiculous you cant help but laugh lol. But that was really racist of him though
@@justcallmekai1554 At least I had a good laugh nonethless. He looked so stupid in that costume. Or my sense of humor is right-wing.
He brags about having "Half-Asian Lawyer Bill" on staff, so why didn't he just... make the Asian guy play the racist stereotype? The man is entirely tone-deaf.
*Crowder after alt-right terrorist attack:* “Let’s not politicize things!”
*Crowder after terrorist attack:* “ReLiGiOn oF pEaCe, ImMiGrAnT BaD”
Alt right violence is terrorism. Might want to rethink your wording. Seems a little suggestive.
@@MrFucktard12345 You're right! I changed it
Just a quick tip-in to say that you don't have to be one of these creeps to criticize Islam and it's close relationship with terror and violence.
Fascism was in large part borne from extremist reactionary christianity and at this time a similar islamic version fascism is damaging civil society across the globe. Coexistence with such political forces is impossible and undesirable. Particularly in Iraq and Syria this came to a head with the Islamofascists taking up arms and rounding up jews and shackling women to beds. The progressive and socialist left of this shattered region united to oppose them and were the principal footsoldiers in the confict against the Islamic State and their associates, creating a model progressive democratic state in Northern Syria in the process. Solidarity for Rojava.
@@anahata3478 I'm not gonna call you a right winger but I will say that you have to be either unaware of the tenants of christianity or of fascism and certainly of their history of cooperation and open alliance.
In merely scriptural terms he torah (old testament) is basically an instruction manual for the creation of a fascistic theocracy and the new testament firmly establishes divine authority, a hierarchical world, the idea of purity of race e.t.c. Ethnoracism, anti-humanist rhetoric and glorification of violence and suffering abound. I'd go as far as to say that in terms of scripture Christianity is actually worse, probably because it came even earlier in history.
@@anahata3478 Both Christianity and Islam use very similar holy books, and you can draw equally damaging interpretation from either of the religions. Saying that Islam is basically fascism is like saying that Christianity is basically Nazism, and pointing to medieval book burnings, witch trials and religion-based antisemitism to make your point.
Shaun you really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell LIES?
Who would ever do such a thing?
@The Viewer
Well Shaun would apparently.
@@liamscott1905 Such as...
@@liamscott1905 gottem
@SlyBiffrons
This video...
"Let's pretend you're Steven Crowder... apologies."
I sit through Crowder's video and then you do me like this.
😂😂
Argante Senn I ruined your 666 likes lmao
"I´m not a white supremacist, I´m a race realist" is basically the same as saying " I´m not a rapist, I´m a surprise non-consensual sexer"
No. He is saying that he has no interest in dominating or ruling over other races.
@@GK-op4ocwhen you listen to those people's opinions, they say the exact same things as white supremacists but they prefer to brand themselves differently.
They say race realism is merely acknowledging the differences between race but when you ask what should be done as a result of those differences they funnily enough reach the same conclusions white supremacists have come to for hundreds of years.
@@GK-op4oc and race realism has been exposed and debunked as primitive outdated archaic pseudoscience, it is blatantly racist 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@GK-op4ocBro don’t try to hide it. These Neo Nazis are doing everything they can to hide it. And you are too gullible to understand.
@@GK-op4oc”Race realism” is just racism, the sole difference of course being that “race realists” are more dishonest.
This reminds me of that German saying: "If there is one Nazi sitting at a table with 10 people, there are 11 Nazi's there"
I love that quote. I just wish people would apply it to communists as well.
honestly i was more shocked that Crowder considers himself a comedian
The only fun joke Crowder ever said is calling himself a comedian.
He’s about as funny as Leukemia
He's a genius at cringe comedy
Hes the sort of comedian who promotes nonsense yet demands to be taken seriously. Its funny in the ironic sense.
Funnier than Trevor Noah
"Let's pretend you're Steven Crowder" ...reaching for my gun
Eldar K
points at brain
Realize i don’t have a brain
He apologized, sheesh!
@@Anuscringe8814 after all, if you've never seen your brain, *how do you know you even have a brain?*
Personally of I was Steven crowder I'd try to use my show to change my audiences minds
Roguepsyker Haaker he should get another Christian on his show. The only catch would be that the other person would be a 2nd century style Christian. The fireworks would be visible from low earth orbit!
the way that stephan guy reassures the viewers the content is "fact-based" and "data driven" reminds me of how parents reassure kids theres definitely no vegetables in their food
It’s gaslighting. They never show the alleged evidence, but the more they say it exists, the more they convince their audience that it must be true. They are also vague enough to insinuate that they have new evidence that previous refutations did not take into account, even though they never do and never even have any original content since the 1980s. Basically, they want people to believe that if they are empiricists and care about data, then their opponents cannot. But they can’t prove it because they aren’t and don’t.
"Let's say you're Steven Crowder"
* visible regret, softer *
"Apologies"
Shaun you absolute sweetheart
"and like half the people on sites like stormfront are feds"
I find myself in agreement, just not for what I imagine is the same reason.
God, don't make this even more depressing to think about.
It's a scary world we live in. I will check if this is correct, but I heard that there was a study done here in Canada of the Canadian Armed Forces, in which 25% of members say that they encountered people they knew to be white supremacists during their time in the military.
Unfortunately, no "western" country is immune to the rot of white supremacy in the apparatus of the state.
feds are da reel nahtzees
the takes on this channel just keep getting hotter.
California Uber Alles
@@theocean1973 And you think any other country is different? Why just western? Only whites can be racist? They all have racism problems to an extent. All skin colors can be racist.
Lauren “Data is the plural of anecdote” Southern.
Dražen Keković that stream really stressed me tf out
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Lauren ‘Killing Immigrants Is Patriotic’ Southern
I don't even like lauren, but you people are either being autistic or disingenuous if you're taking that literally.
Phuck Joogle why don’t you like her?
If you need to ask "what is the line I need to walk to avoid being considered a white nationalist?" then you're probably too close to crossing that line already.
/ścum - it’s a pretty unhelpful and mean thing to be, a happy and stable society can be reached without needing to cause violence to people because they have a certain skin colour
@@tomio8072 profile checks out.
You're a white nationalist, David.
It means over emotional liberals throw labels around without context.
"Is believing that America is superior to Mexico white supremacy?" No, Crowder. That's American Exceptionalism!
Comparing USA to Mexico is wrong. There's many factors to consider in order to compare them both. Since they leads to different results, comparing both countries is both mathematically impossible as it is nationalist cause you're discarding all the factors that favor Mexico
@@RodrigoroRex not to mention the way the US govt just strolled onto Mexican land and was like: “aight this is mine now” and started killing brown people. as they tend to do
I mean, they're not too far apart...
@@RodrigoroRex yeah. Their origin stories are pretty different, which is part of the reason their governments are different. The Spanish model of colonization was the Spanish government being a helicopter parent for their colonies. They put a lot of authority in the mainland (European Whites were superior in the racial caste system to even Whites born in the colonies) and exploited the colonies as dry as they could. Central Mexico and the Andes in Peru were rich in gold and silver and had other valuable resources. Also, the Spanish limited settlement of the colonies to try to maintain their strict racial hierarchy. This led to an inability for the colonies to develop a free market or democracy, and thus, fall to dictatorship. The English model of colonization was "we'll let the colonists do pretty much whatever they want as long as they pay their taxes," also known as salutary neglect. All of their settler colonies (colonies founded as new societies built from the ground up) developed democracy even though English commoners weren't used to democracy, and that's despite England probably being the most democratic country in Europe at the time). The conquest colonies (colones founded via conquest of an existing empire) had a lot more exploitation of natives and a harder time at developing democracy, but it still had some influence. The colonies still had the issue of trade being controlled by Britain, but until after the 7 Year's War, the Thirteen Colonies pretty much governed themselves. Britain started putting more control on those colonies after the war to try to pay off their huge war debt and prevent rebellions in the territory they got rights to at the end of the war. All of that allowed the US to have a somewhat functional and stable democracy as well as a free market economy.
@@RJ-rr1zq what
"He doesn't think non-whites can be included in a harmonious America, but..."
Really puts the casual racism of my extended family into a very flattering context.
No, Stefan, the word you're looking for is "imperialist," not "empiricist."
I'm not a native English speaker so I didn't even notice he wasn't talking about empirialism at first lmao
I wonder if Molyneux ever gave Southern a talk about her precious white eggs
I find it impossible to contemplate Mr. Molyneux's tripe, because I can't get past his affected speech. Why won't he talk in his normal voice? He's pretentious to the point of self-parody. He could learn from people like Shaun.
"Delicious... eggs"
-Harris "bomberguy" Brewis
@@grouchomarxist5612 How can you be sure that's not his usual voice?
@@davidz2562 How many people do you know who talk like he does, with that exaggerated diction?
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I came here as a crowder fan and left as someone different holy shit.
glad some people accept crictism
why crowder? no insult, i'm curious, and i mean this honestly. what is it about crowder that appeals to people?
@@jasonclarke7557 probably that he's funny and entertaining until you realise what he's actually saying. aka Angry mans funny.
@@jasoncp3257 funny?
@@ceasemortal4318 yeah, they children and far ish right replublicans who are his audience, his humour appeals to young edgy kids
For all the time that Christian Republicans spend saying that the Devil isn't going to come out and tell you he's the Devil, they're incredibly bad at figuring when the Devil is actually misleading them.
Amen. They’ve bad discernment skills.
Yeah , why can't they just accept all the degeneracy is coming from god like you have ?
Heracles for an immigrant hater you speak really shit English
"Satan" was originally "The Satan" (Sah-TAHN) a figure within the court of heaven whose job was to challenge the status quo and push God's assumptions and ideas.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, stop insulting Satan by comparing him to Stephen Crowder and/or fascism.
Beautifully said
Those 8% are probably people who were confused about the meaning of "acceptable".
I was wondering what that word meant when I filled out the survey.
I wouldn't be so optimistic honestly.
Id imagine a few probably just dont want to admit their thoughts.
I would guess it's possible they are people from other cultures who are not so familiar with Western history, or even poorly educated Americans who don't actually know what a nazi is. And yes, those actually exist and in not-so-low numbers.
I once knew a girl who didn't know what the holocaust was. She found a book with loads of concentration camp photos, got freaked out, and her mate had to explain the whole thing to her. She was a nice person, I enjoyed being around her, but she seemed to not really know anything.
Omfg. My whole political life was a lie. I was sucked in and convinced of things. I am no WS, WN, or whatever else. Absolutely F them. But I can't believe I've been so blind to this. I should've looked into these people more. I honestly feel ashamed at my lack of education on these people. This video is truly enlightening to me. I don't know what else to say.
Edit: the more I think, the more I'm starting to believe that when any of these people are saying "I'm not a (insert bad thing)", they are that thing. They have to say it a million times so I'm tricked into believing it. I've been so stupid and blind. JFC...
honestly man, great job on doing your own research and coming to a new conclusion. it takes a mature person to realize they were wrong and change their opinion
Totally agree. Used to be into these guys without any rational thought, and I'm quite ashamed to say I used to watch these people
@@tekkitdoood2838 be proud that you saw through the lies! trust me a lot of people who act like they came out of the womb a leftist just got lucky with home, school, friends, or work environments
Glad you also escaped from this he’ll hole
How old are you ?
Who’s here in 2023 after Crowder’s life has fallen apart?
Can't imagine why his wife left him...
The clues were always there.
Them: I’m not a wolf! I’m a sheep!
Critics: But you hang out with wolves
Them: you’re the wolf!
more like : by using the vague term "wolf" over and over again, you are discrediting yourself and the losing the true meaning of the term. as a moderate centrist i have no other choice but to hang out with the wolves
Yeah, that’s the same thing people say about black kids when they hang out with their hoodlum friends.
jblue1622
Identitarian Centrist skeptacs: But they *said* they're not wolves.
@@SolveForX
I don't understand...
The problem with your analogy is ‘hang out’ with = ‘talk to’
Steven Crowder, or "What if an Alabama fraternity bro was in charge of a news outlet?"
CockatooDude he’s just an oversized nerd the football team would pick on, look at his mannerisms
He is a Canadian immigrant...
@@MegaReservist That may be, but he still behaves like an Alabama fraternity bro. Nationality has little to do with someone's behavior.
As a European, I fell like this will be the only chance for me to do this...
Ahem...
ROLL TIDE!
thanks
Crowder seems like a classic case of ‘started lifting weights because he was bullied so much as a kid.’
Is it just me, or does everything Sefan Molyneux say just piss you off? It's just so grating to hear basically everything he says
Because that’s what Neo Nazis do
Not as bad as Sargon, I can hear that shiteating grin from a mile away
Just you. Some people are less capable of understanding and tolerating opposing views
@@GK-op4oc well, that was unnecessarily rude. But OK.
Stefan Molyneux has ruined my enjoyment of other UA-camrs from Newfoundland like Steve Kauffman
I get in alot of online debates, and its still a semi hard to swallow pill that some debates arent worth having. Something worth learning is how to just walk away
If you are debating online, its always worth continuing and keeping calm. You arent debating the other person, you are offering a different view to the other people that might read the thread.
Dont convince the person, convince thr people on the fence who havent fallen down the rabbit hole
I get into pointless arguements online all the time and I really shouldn't because it's like being addicted to feeling morally superior, you can really get your piss boiling if you rant at some people online only to never change their stupid opinion and it's not healthy
This gets better with age. Mid 20s and I usually can't be bothered to even type. After enough debates you realise that the bad outcomes outweigh good.
@@int537 its not always worth continuing , In most cases they keep backpedaling and changing the topic and regurgitating talking points, if theirs anyone in the audience whos on the fence, theirs a high chance they will look at the far right easy explanation for why things are bad, and ignore the complex systemic analysis of the systems of power that lead to why things are bad
By responding to them youre giving fuel to their fire and giving them a chance to reply to you with a bunch of easy to digest but wrong talking points, the best course is to give them no platform, dont interact with their post and discourage others from doing so, they like when people reply to them with in depth explanatation of why theyre wrong, because they enjoy replying to your long in depth paragraph with talking down to you and regurgitating another poorly made talking point, and people reading will start to think "oh, one person is writing very long paragraphs and seem kinda mad, and the other person is saying very short messages that are way easier to understand"
the best thing we can do is not reply to those people, and instead post elsewhere in a different place (for example if theyre replying to a tweet and spouting bullshit write a message in reply to main tweet not the right wing person explaining further or bringing up more information so others can see that more easily)
Just my thoughts on it
Three Arrows in a Shaun video? Finally, a crossover worth talking about!
Blows Infinity War out of the water
Insanity Potato wait what? Did I miss it? Where!?
What about his HBomb crossover
@@tastethesoup I phrased it poorly, my bad, arrows helped with the video, so three arrow's _work_ is in the video, and I just fumbled over my words a bit.
The Jetsons meet the Flintstones was still good!
Stefan Molyneux: I'm an empiricist
Also Stefan Molyneux: tHe GrEaT rEpLaCeMeNt
Shaun "you won't become a minority you will be part of a plurality, with your group becoming smaller and smaller with time". 2018
@@AleXoEx0 and by "smaller and smaller" you mean bigger and bigger, but growin slower. I wonder whoose fault is it that you don't want kids.
@@AleXoEx0 literally only growing smaller because of the one drop rule, which whites made up themselves. "Suicide" by self-created racist standards
Phuck Joogle Detroit is bad because only the poor people stayed after the automobile companies left , it doesn’t have to do with race but class .
@@cameronhowe1110 yeah? you sure it wasn't the riots and murders?
"I have always been skeptical of the ideas of white nationalism, of identitarianism, and white identity,"
Oh good, Molyneux isn't as bad as I thou-
"HOWEVER"
God fucking dammit
Why are you against those things for white people but yet you take those things for granted when it comes to everyone else?
Poland is a beacon of free speech. That's why they arrested someone for saying the Bible was written by people smoking pot.
@@westonmeyer3110 Because "whiteness" isn't conceived of like other racial groups by design. Humans share 99% of DNA across all of humanity but have minor phenotypical differences in skin tone and facial features. When the people we call "white" began to colonize and enslave other humans in the past couple hundred years they needed a way to dehumanize those people and contrast themselves against them and thus our modern conception of race was born, before then there were no "white" people, there were French, English, Polish, etc. The term "white" was only made for people of European ancestry to congregate power to wield against those considered nonwhite, a perfect example of this is Irish and Italian people; they were not considered white when they began migrating to the united states and were kind of considered like light-skinned black people but when the dominant white power group of the country feared the Irish and Italians allying with black slaves, they allowed the Italians and Irish people to enter the white hegemony, people of other racial groups can't just envelop those of different racial groups into their own like that, meaning that whiteness plays by different rules.
When someone of prominent European ancestry talks about white identity or white nationalism or white pride they are really talking about power to wield over others, they are talking about supremacy.
@@westonmeyer3110 I too make shit up.
I was in a depression for a long time because of family abuse(physical included) and I was lost in life and searching for some advice so I stumbled on Jordan B Peterson because he's a psychology professor so he obviously knows(therapy helped me quite a bit so I thought he'd be trustworthy) but slowly and intertwined with his "helpful" ideas was all this weird talk about IQ and NeoMarxists or whatever, I never exactly paid attention to this, because it's not what I wanted out of anything but over the course of listening to him for a bunch of years and by association getting exposed to much of the other bullshit I gradually became disillusioned with everything happening in this right wing echo chamber, especially last year when most of the advice stuff was just sidelined completely and all the discourse in that echo chamber was about crushing the libs and calling other people evil, which considering I've been introduced to that community by a guy who says to not blame others and make oneself better first, I found the whole community dragging on my mental health but then I started watching some BreadTube (particularly philosophytube video on depression, which made me cry for the first time in months of being completely closed off emotionally) and he and some others exposed me to what that community I was a part of was really about, and since I really started hating capitalism after experiencing Amazon warehouses for 5 months, the whole thing just collapsed for me. The best you can get out of that community is the occasional piece of advice, which is not said in good faith and is very much hypocritical the worst you're gonna get is quite literally advocating for genocide. Fuck that entire space of people, it makes me sick to my stomach even listening to them these days and I believe videos like yours have a purpose of getting misguided kids like me out of the toxic realm of alt right ideology, which is very catchy for young minds particularly of boys/men if it's the first thing they see.
Thanks for sharing your story. I was in a similar situation as a teen. The feeling of intellectual superiority when watching right wing youtube was intoxicating to my idiot child self that was looking for validation. This kind of content truly is a nightmarish rabbit hole in which you can easily get lost in, these are seriously despicable and devious pieces of propaganda that can seriously damage the world view of an adult, let alone an impressionable kid. Judging you by your comment, you grew up to be a mighty fine person and that's all that matters in the end
@@gabagoolingeverywhere thanks dude
Thank you for sharing your story. I think if you had commented closer to the time the video first came out you would have gotten more responses and a great deal of encouragement. You deserve that encouragement and a lot of support.
I've run into people who were in your situation. It's difficult not to get into arguments with them especially when they repeat the things they've heard and learned or use those things to harm others. Attacking them is the worst thing you can do though because it moves them further to the right. And most people become less reachable, less receptive to what another person is saying when they are on the defensive.
As someone who has been on that side and understands how appealing the beliefs are (especially to confused, depressed or angry guys) you could help. People are generally more willing to listen when there is a shared background, shared experiences. You are in a good place to help by talking about how you were pulled in and what you saw over time and how it affected you. It will be much easier for other guys to listen without immediately going on the defensive or disregarding what you're saying because you speak the same language, you have that commonality of experience. You will also have more empathy for them because you've been in their shoes. You don't have to do this, but if you do I think you'd have more success than someone who hasn't been through what you have.
I wish you all the best.
That’s something to be proud of man, thanks for sharing! :)
That's the nature of the racket: Pulling in impressionable, young men who are looking for guidance and a father figure with genuinely helpful advice, and then slowly, almost subliminally exposing them to the ideology. A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down. And of course it's best to indoctrinate people before the age of 25, when their brain is still really plastic and receptive to new information, which is why the advice is geared towards young people.
Last time I was this early, Crowder was still monetized. 😂
Oh dang
He's been demonetized for a long time. Get your facts straight.
Greg That’s because I’m always early to Shaun’s videos.
Greg that’s the joke.
@@naggu1243 you say that like you'll _never eat those words._
Benjamin owen saying "work will set you free" aka the thing the nazis had written in the gates of Auschwitz "Arbeit macht frei" is the most disgusting thing I have heard in a while.
Truly those who do not learn from history (or learn history at all) are doomed to repeat it.
" I have to prove white is the right way" -
L0LWTF1337
@@kg356 I can blame Shun for promoting white supremacy as much. Actually i can blame him more Ben because From what i seen so far anyone who call themselves a socialist Seem to have white Agenda. Maybe cuase i'm afro=-latino i trust Ben more then shun cause shun people has done more damage to black and brown people then the last 250+ of American history
@Matt H suicide and mental illness. This is actually proven
@@ronnieDaking ???
"Don't believe people when they tell you who they are. Believe them when they show you who they are." True, true words.
"Lets say youre Steven Crowder"
"Apologies..." Youre quickly becoming one of my favorite youtubers. Thanks for all that you do!
Oh. Ma. God. It's been 2 months Shaun and just a couple days ago I was thinking "man when is Shaun going to post a video?". Great news
He did a cameo in the last hbomberguy video I think.
Honestly, I don't mind the wait. You can tell Shaun does the needed research and then some, rather than just shooting from the hip.
It's a refreshing change from the many creators who do 5 minutes of "research" and then release a poorly expressed & executed video.
Donate to his patreon for like a dollar like I did to see stuff early cuz I'm impatient
Get on his patreon yo
Lauren Southern “yeah there’s no Nazis now let’s move on and discuss the great replacement”
"there's no nazis now" - anyway, I commonly hang out on the daily stormer, a website that openly attacks jewish people for existing and argues that they're evil shadow folk hellbent on destroying "western culture."
My favorite mirror response to this is one by alt-righters:
"B-buh she's a secret jew so she can't be alt right"
So much fucking denial on all levels.
why are you against people discussing the great replacement?
@@nicktaylor8771 Why are you defending a racist conspiracy theory?
Oh right, because you're a racist, my b.
I live in paris i work as a med student in obstetric wards every month the french are getting replaced you can see it in all the medical and genetic data. Your disrespect of my people and your aproval of a genocide is disgusting. We are already a small minority of birth. Every people has the right to its genetic and cultural preservation.
I love it how Shaun is always nice and cool while Steven crowder is constantly insulting his opponents, it really shows the level of dignity between the two doesn't it?
Yeah. Also, I love Prussia. Such a fascinating history
Shaun nice and cool? He is clearly so petty and passive aggressive. It shows less dignity because he won't come out and say what he means and thinks for real.
@@nerif2849 Steven Crowder is a pile of shit mate, he can't take a single bit of criticism or even a view that is contrary to his own and yeah I don't know what you see but in pretty much every Shaun video he responds to his opponents in a calm and appropriate manner, that's why I like him.
Sure, I prefer a calm delivery. But even if it was the other way around Shaun would still be right.
@@nerif2849 Tolerance_paradox.jpg
"ive always been skeptical of white nationalists, but i cant help but notice i can have peaceful... and safe conversations with them" anything to do with the fact your white stefan?
Here's the thing most people who scream "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" the moment someone calls them out on their bigotry don't get: Freedom of Speech *ONLY* implies that you will not suffer legal repercussions for anything you say. The government cannot use your speech to fine or jail you. What other private citizens do in response of your speech, however, is their bussiness, and while people are entitled to their speech, they're not entitled to a platform.
Yes the government has to protect the freedom of speech and you are forgetting the "freedom of speech" is also a principle. A principle which also includes giving people opposed to your opinion a platform/ not denying them a platform.
@@IsomerSoma If they want a platform they can build one of their own; Nothing entitles them to yours.
@@CteCrassus You can't just selectively ban groups of people ... unless there is a pressing legal reason. You dont actually share the priniciple of free speech. You just find it convient because it benefits yourself - be honest.
@@IsomerSoma Big businesses are not goverments, they are privately owned by a person, literally capitalist free market.
Your platform, your rules, your world.
@@razi_man There's a difference between legal obligation and principles. As corporations platform are an essential part of modern discourse culture one has to think about how open discourse can be preserved in a digital, privatized space despite their being no legal obligation.
Tell us more about all the white supremacist discussion groups you post on, Lauren Southern.
she mentioned stormfront first... STORMFRONT...
she literally made a tweet identifying herself as Alt Right, when that became too muddy, she moved to Identitarianism, who are identitarians? find out for yourself: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identitarian_movement
The Alt right are very particular and actively tell people to "disavow" when they have to, but use euphemism and memes to court moderate white voters. They hammer very much on presentation, even Physical presentation so they don't look like monsters to the average person. The person Richard Spencer was talking to in this video, is Nick Fuentes, Nick Fuentes is not only a latino unapologetic white nationalist, but racist, traditionalist, i think Catholic, against "miscegenation", Anti Semitic, who made a tweet not too long ago about "hurr durr liberals call everybody Nazis". They know exactly what they are doing. it's all part of hysteria they have created. Quite genius tbh, they are definitely smarter than the average enlightened radical centrist, who believes that racists have to self identify as such before they are called one.The nazis know this and openly talk about taking advantage of how ignorant moderates are on their forums.
I laughed when she basically outed their little game they have where they accuse someone being impassibly racist as a "fed" so that they can signal to each other that you should tone it down if you're outside of their safe space, but also so they continue to downplay and pretend that white supremacists aren't really that bad anyone being bad is just a false flagging leftist or in this case a fed trying to catch some hate crime committers.
Weird that your platform might have a reason to be full of police trying to catch people doing illegal things...
@@loopholesloopy we dont signal to 'tone it down' by calling people feds where the hell did you get that from?
informants exist on all forms of social media and are indiscriminate to whatever idealogy you have.
You have to be pretty ignorant or blind to have not noticed a single fed subverting groups like Antifa and Alt-right, bots and feds are daily thing at 4chan and I think Reddits even more infested with them.
Please keep throwing shit at Lauren Southern, Alex Jones, Richard Spencer, Tommy Robinson, Andrew Anglin, Mike Enoch, Baked Alaska, etc. youre doing us all a huge favor
@@justinbailey5467 ok Nazi
It will never not be funny when Lauren admits she browses Stormfront
Stefan has just such a punchable "I'm better and smarter than you" grin, it's infuriating
Seems appropriate that Crowder just released a video today in defense of concentration camps
Top 10 most expected anime twists
I actually gagged when I heard about it. gross
Seriously man, you watched the video. I'm not even being rude or anything but you can't say he was defending concentration camps. That's just silly
@@dntn2223 I agree that he wasn't defending concentration camps, but it wasn't a well-structured argument either. I don't know enough about the asylum-situation at the border to comment about that, but the video was more about false holocaust-equivocations. It did still suck, because some weren't referencing holocaust, and the whole framing of the video was wrong. He seemed to suggest that people wanted something to compare the holocaust to, even though it is the opposite way around, finding something to compare a situation to, and using the holocaust.
The bit that might actually be considered a defense of consentration camps (if the situation at the border can be considered consentration camps), was not an actual holocaust reference though. There are other instances where consentration camps have been used, it is not purely a nazi thing... It is a word, strongly connected to the holocaust, sure, but not exclusive to it.
@@dig8634 he's a dumbass who doesn't want his opinions changed 😂 most of his argument are debunkable and outright stupid. He has so many subscribers, weird!
Crowders best comedic work to date is just himself. He is the joke. Just His sheer existence with such astonishingly poor intellect. Change my mind
Mal c.H no argument there :P
a number two numbers mind -> changed
I mean hes a normie meme, a political meme, thats like an insult to your legacy
"I am not white nationalist!" XD
Sorry I can’t. You just destroyed me with FACTS and LOGIC.
Lauren Southern trying to talk casually about a website called "Stormfront" and how chill and not racist it is: does she expect us to believe that the name was chosen because of all the meteorological chit chat they engage in?
Facts dont care about your feelings unless they are conservative feelings then the facts just get ommited
Funny you say that while this video leaves out so many facts. It is both sides that do this.
@Pranav M replying in case he decides to provide us with a list a month later
@@wennick4859 same here, but technically he was right - this video leaved out plenty of facts about some other 💩 for example.
Interesting how you never see a video titled "Conservative destroys Neo-Nazi with facts and logic"
they have no power so no point in doing so
@@crasykills4718 I mean, neither do college student liberals/leftists, but boy do they love going in on them.
Conservatives don't "destroy" Neo-Nazis because they are fundamentally fighting for the same thing. Conservatives aren't about holding the powerful to account, it's about making sure they hold the power
@@justthecoolestdudeyo9446 college student maybe not yet. the professors indoctrinating them hold power over their perseption of reality. these same students going into tech/media industries have or will have power to decide who gets to participate on public dialog. Facebook Twitter and google have to power to change the outcome of elecrions, and they already have a left leaning biase.
@@crasykills4718 Students might *maybe* graduate and go through life having been influenced by their professors (assuming that being pro-social-justice is wrong in your mind), but you can easily say that Neo-Nazis can also brainwash vulnerable young people who wind up watching their videos or following them on social media. Surely that's worth at least an occasional debunking? Especially since hate crimes are up, open white supremacist violence is on the rise, and people with Neo-Nazi/white-nationalist/"Identitarian" views are gaining in popularity and are amplified by UA-cam, Twitter, Facebook, and other tech/media orgs that favor far-right propaganda.
The reason college students are targeted more is because a) they are in greater opposition to conservatives than Nazis are, and b) are very young and more likely to not articulate their points very well, leading to an easy "own".
@@justthecoolestdudeyo9446 the reason college students are targeted is because they dont really know what they are talking about, its all informations that hasnt been critically analyzed and put through scrutiny at all, this is why its an easy "own". and ontop of that it leads to censorship of anything that would atemt to put the information they are receiving into scrutany thats why anything conservative to neo nazi is being censored online. the reason the censorship is backfiring is called the stizand striesand effect.
It's always a good day when Shaun debunks the alt-right
Just in time!
Lol when has Crowder called for a white ethnostate and talk about the JQ? Furthermore, he is a Zionist war supporter incompatible with alt right.
@@noimmigrantswelcome9251 thanks dead meme guy
@@noimmigrantswelcome9251 You need to get your script debugged, we've already cleared that questline.
Unique NPC He's still Alt Right buddy, but he's a Capitalist Fascist. He's broadcasted many white nationalist talking points but he's also a Capitalist, so a full on ethnostate is bad for him because then the Capitalists would be unable to benefit from the work of all races instead of just whites. Also he supports "Zionist war" (which is just Capitalist war but we need to find a way to blame everything on Jewish trains of thought, eh?) because it's good for business and it exerts American power on Anti Imperialist and Socialist nations.
Crowder is just reinforcing my belief that we should really get rid of IQ tests as a legitimate barometer of intelligence.
As someone who did quite decently in IQ tests, so someone who would benefit from making them seem valid, yeah. I think iq tests reveal something like any test for that matter. If I test your ability to knot your shoes, it is revealing something... But not how smart you are, rather if you learned that skill already or not. Being good in IQ test, reveal that you are good in IQ tests. Which... Shows... That maybe? you had a better environment to learn those skills? Maybe? How useful are those skills? Idk. Maybe better social skills would have been much better.
IQ tests measure a specific set of skills. This can be useful in some - particularly academic - situations. Of course there are tons of skills it doesn’t test, so it shouldn’t be applied as a general intelligence measurement.
"Just ban them all. And if they don't like it, fuck em." Truly words to live by.
When Shaun uploads, the day goes from good to great
Or in my case totally horrible to mostly horrible
@Hal 9000 Huh?
@Hal 9000 Jokes? Never heard of her.
"He didn't hate Jews, he was trying to clean up" - he's quoting Jordan Peterson almost directly.
Nick Zardiashvili really? Please link me ASAP
@@kx7500 There's a UA-camr called Knowing Better and he has a video on "subverting a narrative." I believe I've seen that bit of Peterson in that video.
Nick Zardiashvili okay I’ll look that up thanks
Nick Zardiashvili id really like to talk with an expert to figure out whether a lot of what that guy says is true. I seemingly have to just believe him when he says things are dog whistles but I’d actually like evidence for it.
@@kx7500 Well, dog whistling is not something one can concretely prove. There are no experts on it. It's a purely implied thing and you don't have to believe at all that those were dog whistles.
15:20 so hes basically saying "my ideas are barely opposed in all-white countries and that makes me comfortable because arguing is hard :("
The most sad & terrifying fact is that Steven Crowder has 4.4M subscribers. Just to think that so many ppl support his bigotry is really disappointing.
It is unfortunate that you are ignorant to the truth. Stephen Crowder is actually a normal person. You are looking at cherry picked evidence through a narrow world view.
@@_-___________ explain
@@emc448 Explain what? That if you are accusing someone of something that it is up to you to prove you accusations?
@@_-___________ you dropped this 🧠 hope you use it some day 💙
@Alligator Well you are a bigot sir.
Wait, we've got a hive mind? Why didn't anyone tell me? Do we have a volcano lair too?
I don't know. I was too busy following this hormone trail laid down by the other leftists that leads to the food source.
I must carry the food back to the mound now.
@@starmaker75 it helps if you can form coherent thoughts.
"the left is a hive mind"
*meanwhile tankies and anarchists are trying to strangle each other over irrelevant historical debate*
@@skele3310
Priceless comment
@@skele3310 *the left can't even agree on Brutalism*
Steven 'I'm not bad because all my friends are racist' Crowder
Just like Adolph "Some of my best friends are Jews" Eichmann
"I won't debate whether 2+2=5 with you, not because I can't prove it doesn't, but because there's no point. It's a waste of time. You know, take someone who thinks that 2+2=5, and will argue the point. I don't wat to convince them that they're wrong. I don't want them on my side. If they looked at the evidence and came to that conclusion, who knows what else they think? They're embarrassing. Likewise with questions of equal rights. Whether or not people deserve equal human rights is a question with a right and a wrong answer as clear-cut as the previous example."
I love you. This is so good.
Crowder calling himself a comedian his only funny joke.
If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and steps like a goose, it's a fascist
they actually sound like geese now too with all that honking
This truly is one of the most beautiful comments I’ve ever seen.
If it looks like duck sounds like a duck why is it goose-stepping
"We apologize and quit, because we're obviously incompetent."
That should be on a greeting card.
Wow I always thought Hitler was a nazi, but that can't possibly be since he doesn't have a swastika tattoo!
"until anti-fascists carved a swastika into Nazi Colonel Hans Lande:'s forehead at the end of the INGLORIOUS BASTERDS, how could we know that he was a Nazi"
@@alexscriabin ikr i thought he was just a simple Wehrmacht soldier
My day be so fine. Then boom, newest comments
Note that Molyneux's argument for white nationalism, the big thing that (he claims) changed his mind, boils down to "in Poland I got to say whatever I wanted with no pushback".
It's always been about freedom from consequences, about power without accountability. Removing minorities and their voices from the public sphere shields his fragile ego, so any ideology that promises to accomplish this, he'll support.
Sounds like he wants a safe, white, space ...
That's not all he said and it's also a misrepresentation of what he says. He has always been willing to have discussions with those that criticize his ideas. He can find few people of your side that will talk with him. And the pushback he talks about he has described what it is: threats of violence and deplatforming by threatening venues that would allow him to speak in a country are a few he mentions.
Why don't you call his show and tell him your criticisms? Change his racist mind.
@@magnificentgoldenbeast6099 I have no interest in talking to some reactionary propagandist on his own show, that's not how you defeat them XD
If Molyneux were open to reasoned arguments that go counter to his prejudices, he wouldn't be where he is today. The purpose of debate for these people is to demonstrate strength and ideological fortitude to their peers, not to exchange ideas and discover the truth. This goes double for professional propagandists like Molyneux, who make money by catering to established donors and an established audience -- if he actually changed his mind, he'd be ruined, so even if I magically convinced him he'd still have to pretend that I didn't.
@@HeadsFullOfEyeballs Those are very convenient reasons for not engaging in the debate. I suppose if you didn't believe you could win a particular battle; you wouldn't even try to win a war.
Your reasoning means that your side can only lose. And if you engage in the battle the only way you will is through violence against your fellow citizens. Our bloodiest war in the 1860s was done after debate failed. You guarantee your war will be worse.
@@magnificentgoldenbeast6099 the civil war was born of greed and evil, that used nationalistic fervour to whip up a disadvantaged populace that the slave-owning class made disadvantaged in the first place.
The north wasn't anti-slavery because of idealogy or morals-- it was because slavery artificially depressed wages for free white people. In fact, the only reason slaves weren't used up north is because of climate.
It wasn't about debate. It was about money.
Stephen Crowder's attempts to be funny are what I call "Negative humor"
It makes me go back in time and "unlaugh" at things I genuinely found funny
in other words, anytime Crowder tries making a joke, it widens the gaping hole in my heart and makes me feel like I've stared into the abyss
Exactly, it’s someone using humor to express pride in their ignorance. It kind of makes you want to not respond to them at all because they’ve articulated that they don’t care about changing their mind off of new evidence.
Steven uses sources from both sides when researching issues. Anyway, how does distasteful humor have any link to not changing your mind based on "new evidence"? Are all of Crowder's "attempts to be funny" in this "negative humor" category also? The impressions, everything? How about when he makes a point backed by logic but does an impression while doing it, does that also widen the hole in your heart? lol.
@@RSLCarkey It's not necessarily his sources, it's his approach. He kind of resembles John Oliver whenever he talks about Trump. For me it was his video that was a response to someone trying to explain Marxism. He would interject, throw in some really weird talking points, make logical leaps that made no sense, make no attempt to understand what the person was trying to say and overall just be proudly ignorant, doing nothing to learn what the video was trying to tell him. For instance, the Marxism guy said that Karl Marx felt that the contemporary work was dehumanizing and that people would get discontent over that, that he thought a world where people were more in tune with their work was better. Crowder responded by saying that this is why Communism lent itself so easily to genocidal murders like Mao or Stalin. Of course, I highly doubt he has any evidence for this. Then the original video talked about how Marx wanted to abolish private property, to which Crowder said "so you know your laptops or smartphones you're using right now? Marx wants those owned by the state". Of course that's not what abolishing private property means nor what Marx meant. It meant house and land ownership in an attempt to combat large estates and keep a landed elite from dominating. Neither Marx nor Marxists care about your smartphone. Most of his videos are like this, sometimes they get incoherent and difficult to understand, and it's frustrating when he gets basic facts wrong. The humor just drives it home that not only is he ignorant, he just doesn't want to know more because he thinks he knows everything.
It's odd, because he clearly puts little effort into his scripts, it's mostly rambling against people who can't respond. However the production values are a bit better, like if he put in the effort to actually read a book on Communism he could make a much more informed video. Instead he just churns out crap because it sells. It really is just missing a research team so he could have people who know what they're talking about research his bits for him.
@StalinLover1917 i bet you shaun wont debate him tho shaun never does lol y'all are hard libral leftist shaun doesn't debate in person because he has no real facts this is the truth
@@VitoHoffa Chuds are all the same. DEBATE MEEE. DEBAAAAAATE MEEEEE. Holy shit.
I loved that the first thing to come up when you googled “actual white supremacist” was a picture of Donald Trump.
i thank daveed diggs for that. what a king.
You realize this just proves google is biased right?
@@nerif2849 that proves it's an algorithm that can be manipulated. Also, Trump IS an actual white supremacist, though he's probably not the best example of one so in a world where an actual human was making the decisions on what pictures to show in order of relevance, he'd be like, 5th tops.
I love your content so much. I'm a COVID hospital frontline worker and your videos are really helping me through this tough time. You're a brilliant dude and I look forward to your next videos.
Oh my god, I've never seen the Milo password thing before. That genuinely left me speechless Jesus Christ
I didn't find it surprising, he's intentionally offensive and a self admitted attention whore.
It's pretty on brand, really.
@@bangarang3810 are you trying to say that he planned on his password being leaked. And that was his reasoning for making his private password Nazi shit?
@@PBDNR that he's unapologetically edgy and does things often for the lulz.
Planned on password being discovered? Can't say, but it wouldn't surprise me if he considered it.
This is the internet and he fucks people off.
He's also Jewish.
@@bangarang3810 ohh so just like Erhard Milch and Emil Maurice!
@laz kar He's half Jewish and half Greek, but don't take his word for his background or opinions on Nazi Germany or totalitarians or fighting against pedophilia - which the evangelical left seem to want to normalize btw, only take his word when it's out of context and convenient to your straw man.
Cause why bother with facts right?
I don't suppose you're referencing Milo crassly discussing his own sexual abuse by a priest - where he claimed to be the predator at 14?
Again, not quite the same as justifying raping children when the guy admonishes child rapist's in the same conversation.
You probably shouldn't be taking anyone's word for it at this point, 30 second Google away from evidence and you can't bring a single fact to an argument.
Your IQ can drop by 10-15 points if you are stressed and have bills that need to be paid.
#yanggang
@Ramses77 Two things regarding Yang's VAT, the first one is that it will exclude consumer staples like cheaper food and clothing. The second thing is that anyone currently on welfare will get an increase in the amount proportional to the VAT, so they are no worse off just in case they happen to buy something that isn't excluded from it. Don't polarize people like man, just because someone used to run a business (Venture for America was a non-profit at that) doesn't mean they must want nefarious things. Besides, since a VAT is the only type of tax that corporations can't dodge, and a tax that increases proportionally with economic growth, and how else are we going to get the rich to pay their taxes? Wealth taxes don't work because they always find a way around it, so this is the best option I see right now. And I'd much rather have luxury goods be 10% more expensive but get a grand more each month. The benefits vastly outweigh the drawbacks.
All I heard was 100% genetic and can't be changed. Stef fan lol
Now imagine how your IQ is affected if you are actively being oppressed by white supremacists
Yeah and it's not just current cultural and economic factors that play into the fact that African-Americans score lower on IQ tests, but also decades and centuries of oppression, poverty and horrific living standards. Contrapoints has a great video about it, the 'analysis of an uprising' one, the one on Baltimore.
I cannot believe I used to follow Stefan Molyneux. Holy shit.
Personal growth, people. It's immensely possible. (Although admittedly i was still in high school, I was dumb af back then. Still am, but at least I don't follow Stefan Molyneux. So there.)
“let’s say you’re steven crowder… apologies”
lmao
20:12 "History is often a zero sum game."
I've never heard something so mindblowingly idiotic before in my life.
Also alt-righters: "winners write history" "winner takes all"
Out of the other end of their mouth, they’ll say how capitalism is good because everyone benefits
You could see though how someone who consistently refuses to learn the lessons of history would end up at this conclusion.
i'm not even sure what it's suppose to mean
@@EphromJosine It means for every winner there must be a loser of equal but opposite proportion. The concept itself is not completely incoherent, but it is however demonstratably wrong.
"We can't be tolerant of intolerance."
EXACTLY! THANK YOU!
Bloomingtide But who gets to decide the definition of intolerance?
@@ColevLost let's start with: people who want to forcefully remove minorities from america
@Karthik Narayanan You mentioned only two few and very extreme groups that can be considered as minorities. You completely skipped hundreds of other minorities that aren't related to crimes and stuff like this. I think that you are intolerant because you mentioned only those minorities who are associated badly to show the minority as a whole as something bad.
@Karthik Narayanan Now think about WERE IT COMES FROM. Really, think about it. Because it has its causes and I just want to see if you're smart enough to know where it comes from. A small hint, whites can blame themselves for such a high statistic. You do not think that it just sits in 'their nature'. You're not that unwise, don't you? In addition, you confirm my assumptions about being a racist and being intolerant. You ignore the fact that there are many more minorities than those you are talking about, and in addition you mention here the KKK and present them in a good light.
@Karthik Narayanan There are some differences but it's not like black people make more crime stuff or they are less inteligent JUST because they are who they are. You can't take the statistics and make a point because of them. You need to explain where those thing come from. Even if there are any differences, I think that we will stop being racists if we stop paying attention to these differences.
I'm embarrassed that in highschool I used to be a fan of Gavin mcinness, and I realized I was being brainwashed when he said Hitler wasn't the aggressor in ww2 and Churchill was
...well it was mostly both, but that was all because Hitler had pushed deep thru Europe. As soon as Hitler's forces got to France was it? Yeah, I think so...at that point Churchill had no other choice. It was unforgiving what War produces, but what Hitler did and allowed to happen is something that will NEVER be forgotten.
Churchill was an aggressor but that was okay because it was towards the non whites
who's here to celebrate his divorce?
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Ah yes, all those pesky anti-capitalist tech CEOs.
Yeah, they are somehow the most cynical kind of CEO. They only want a basic income for everyone, cause they fear we won't buy their shit anymore if we are starving. If they belong to the left, everyone does, hell, propably even Crowder??? No, he definitly is a racist.
I dunno man, this account seems awfully like a rebranding of Reasonablist Bear's channel. WE'RE NOT FALLING FOR IT OBAMA
Matthias Joseph Thomas van Trigt
I am staying for the bulge...
Oh no, he’s been caught out! Quickly! Consume all the brain force!
Oh yeah sure, call it a “rebranding”. That’s a classic *S T R A W M A N A R G U M E N T*
I want that rule 34 and I want it now!!!!
Everyone knows that Reasonablist Bear tragically died after consuming too much Brain Force. Don’t besmirch his name like this.
‘Checkmate, Globeheads’ - Reasonablist Bear, 2019, RIP
Has Lauren Southern ever considered that a website named after "Der Stürmer" and having the Celtic cross as its fucking logo is going to attract neo-nazis.
Anyone rewatching older shaun vids waiting for him to post again?
yep.
and liking them if I haven't seen them before.