One of the things I've really appreciated about the series thus far is how each companion has gotten a unique send off, including Donna who now has two unique endings, both memory wipe and then living with the Doctor as part of her family... Joking aside about whether the pond's exit counts as a death or not, I like how there is genuine ambiguity in the sort of "everyone dies" and "good health is the slowest cause of death" way
I think it is interesting to note that in goblin folklore, when goblins take a baby, they replace it with a baby of their own, known as a changeling. Looking at how all the myths and legends are becoming reality could this be part of the explanation ?
@@Andreamom001 Ah, ok, thank you for correcting me on that. It could be used in Doctor Who, as you say, and explain some sort of alternate timelines and questioning which 'Ruby' The Doctor is travelling with ?
@@LisaBeta-42 yeah, something along those lines. Like when The Doctor went back to save baby Ruby from the goblins, they gave him a changeling as a decoy. I do like the idea of a Ganger being referred to as a 'big milk thing', though it does bring a whole new meaning to those, 'Got Milk' campaign. Not gonna lie, it also makes me thankful that I only drink soya milk now ! lol ! :) x
While very long term fans wonder why every companion has to end up worse off (until they get a Dr 10 byproduct to keep as their own). Yes, there were deaths and sad departures in the classic series, but we also had ones finding new families to be part of (Victoria), finding their callings (Romana II), even becoming ruler of a planet (Steven). Most simply went home. And of course some got married. Though not as many as people think,
According to online dictionaries I've checked, there are up to 9 different acceptable pronunciations for "diplodicus." Ellie's pronunciation is a correct one.
Ruby's fate and 15's promise - hasn't every Doctor promised to keep his/her companions safe? Jackie Tyler didn't trust 9, Francine Jones didn't trust 10, Mr Pink didn't trust 12, etc. Seems par for the course. With the Doctor danger and adventure are interposable. Cheers....
I'd like it if everything is happening in spite of Ruby's presence, rather than because of it. I want her to be the biggest red herring in history. I don't want y'all to stop speculating, because I enjoy these videos immensely. I just think it would be funny if everything points exactly at everything you've mentioned, and it's all wrong. I've always said and heard "Dip-luh-Doh-cuss". And it looked like one to me. And if it's not, that's quite the pivot. Hey, I can make Ross references, too.
You know I can't wait for them to make a companion that slowly turns into a villain for the doctor. If done right could become an ongoing villain that could always come back like the master. What if Ruby is that?
Just a thought... What if, in the "Beatles episode", Ruby Sunday gets introduced to the Rolling Stones, and they get an idea for a song, but change it from "Sunday" to "Tuesday"? That's how I like the Doctor affecting history... inadvertently... ;-)
Russell T Davies doesn't kill off his main characters, Captain Jack got revived (and has since come back to life hundreds of times), Rose is living a happy life with her family and her own version of The Doctor, Martha got a happy life with her family and even got married, Donna got a happy life with her family and The Doctor, Jackson Lake got his kid back, Lady Christina De Souza is still a cat burglar and (in universe) Wilf has a happy family life (because Donna has a happy family life). And even The 14th Doctor didn't regenerate. The only main characters/companions he has killed and they have stayed dead is Astrid Peth and Captain Adelaide Brooke, and Captain Adelaide Brooke's death was basically a fixed point in time. So I think Ruby will not only survive her time with The Doctor but have a better life after her travels.
So I think the section of "Wild Blue Yonder" with Isaac Newton is the key to what broke time Maverty is used from there on then the Doctor at the edge of the universe invoke superstition making it possible for the Toymaker to enter and other stuff.
I agree! There’s been discussions about them wanting to create a Doctor Who multiverse and the way mavity was used , seems to indicate that change. Because as the Doctor states in wild blue yonder, he’d feel the effects of time travel in his bones. There’s already an allusion to the toymaker not being from their universe. This would also help to keep previous regenerations as cannon, while still being able to now have bigenerations as canon (but in a different universe). It would also let the writers play around with different histories of the timelords and different versions of the Doctor without changing the character of the Doctor.
My theory, hear me out: Ruby *is* what's wrong with time. The goblins and the accidents were essentially time trying to correct the issue, and that's how they traveled back in time to get her. It's why time doesn't heal itself and Mavity is a thing. Now, why she's the problem is interesting, but I'd wager the hooded mom is essentially her dropping herself off and the scene of the doctor crying in that Christmas episode is from him saying goodbye to her, not from the him going back to save Ruby.
The props department didn't do a very good job of ageing the gravestone. I've seen ones in my local cemetery that aren't as old as that one is supposed to be, but look older.
15:17 maybe Ruby is a Changeling Edit there’s also a whole family of long necked Dinosaurs they’re called Sauropods they include Brachiosaurus, Apatosaurus and more
If impossible things are now possible in Doctor Who, could Ruby possibly be her own mother? Or at least she's the one who drops her baby self off at the church. The hooded figure looks like it could be her.
I really hope they bring back The Beast from the Satan Pit in this season. Makes perfect sense with all the fantasy this season, and they even say in the trailer that "the whole world is going to fall into the pit"
I think she might survive since we know Millie Gibson has filmed stuff for Ncuti Gatwa's next season based on an article thst came out this year but she might be in danger this season that has the Doctor try to save her but I definitely think she'll survive this season until she leaves the TARDIS for good unless they bring the actress back before the episodes she's filmed for the next season, I mean it wouldn't be the first time one or more of the Doctor's past companions came back for an episode or two but we'll have to see what happens this season
The irony is Moff is the only one to "kill off" all the compsnions ...Rose, Martha, Donna and of course the Fam are all safe and fine with kives transformed forever but we literally saw Amy Rory River Clara and Bill die in front of our eyes ....RTD will give Ruby most likely lead role in a spin off
Well I feel RTD still gave his characters tough consequences even though they didn't die, and I think at some point he is going to kill off a companion.
I often think back to Cassandra and realize how sad her ending was. Turns out that the last person who ever told her she was beautiful was herself. It's extra sad, knowing how concerned she was with outward beauty.
I'd rather then didn't get rid of the companion, then bring them back. We've seen it happen with Nyssa, River Song, Jenny, Donna, Rose, Clara, Bill, even past Doctors. (I don't always dislike their return but…) (But I would like to see Susan one last time.) As always thank you all so very much for the videos. I don't get "hung-up" on pronunciations. I was born in California in 1960, then in the later 60's I started going to school in England, and watching a new show called "Doctor Who", and in a few years returned to California with my Aussie father, and Canadian mum. And I've learned, and come to accept, there are many alternative pronunciations. (Heck, I first learned to call them Brontosauruses.)
I feel Mrs Flood might be a kind of guardian to Ruby, like Obi-Wan/Ben Kenobi looking over Luke on Tatooine in Star Wars. Could she somehow have played a hand in Ruby being fostered/adopted by Carla? This is why she is just a seemingly kindly neighbour, but there is a bigger link we don't know yet?
What if bigeneration is only a myth in the sense that it's not a myth amongst Timelords, but a myth amongst Galifreyans? Regeneration exists because of the Doctor. And the Doctor's origin is still technically unknown. The reason bigeneration could be considered a Timelord myth is because Timelords were considered to be exclusively Galifreyan. The Doctor, not being Galifreyan, may be technically capable of bigeneration. So the Doctor bigenerating may not be the result of invoking the impossible, but rather revealing what was previously thought to be impossible as possible. I could expand on this idea and say that bigeneration was impossible in THIS universe. But because the Doctor isn't from this Universe, he can technically invoke what is possible in his original universe. The only reason he hasn't until now was because the universe was so vast that he was subject to the laws of this universe. But as the Doctor grew in power, including going beyond the 12 regeration limit and the advent of many lives prior to the 1st Doctor, and with the Flux erasing half of this universe from time itself, perhaps the Doctor has grown powerful enough to influence the natural laws of this universe. Perhaps that's why the Timelords would reset his memories, so that he doesn't grow so powerful that he can influence this universe. What if Ruby is from the same universe that the Doctor is from?
Time Lords were not exclusively Gallifreyans, at least if we venture into EU. Just mostly do. Leela after she stays on Gallifrey was supposedly in training to become a Time Lady.
@@myrddinemrys1332 To be fair, River could also be considered a Time Lord too. Or at least part Time Lord. But it does seem as if Galifreyans have exclusive rights as to who becomes a Time Lord at least. But it still means that my original point still works. The idea that bigeneration isn't a Time Lord myth, but a Galifreyan myth.
They've made a big thing about this Doctor getting over the ubiquitous angst of the previous Revival Who. I think it would completely undermine that to have something horrible happen to his first companion! Let's let him be a cheerful, happy-go-lucky breath of fresh air for a while!
how bout that scene where she looks older with the glasses is something like the amy waterfall thingy where she ages on a separate time stream but this time ruby gets evil in a more resoluted way and turns against the doctor?
There was something in what you mentioned that scratched a mental itch I've been having about salt. In the 2nd DT special the doctor invokes salt as a line his doppelganger couldn't cross and then regretted using superstition at the edge of the universe. In the toymaker episode after TM is defeated Kate orders the box to be locked in salt.....it seemed a strange thing to say.... but for salt to be used in 2 episodes in a superstitious was felt like it was going to lead to something else. But not mentioned in the Christmas episode?
I think she ordered it locked in salt after hearing that salt worked once before. It's a weird superstition, sure, but I think she'd take anything she could get to stop the TM.
Ah, we know that RTD likes to give his companions dark endings, but RTD knows that we know he does that, so maybe he won't. BUT HE KNOWS THAT WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW, so maybe it will end in tears yet!
Don't forget that Disney is quite bloodthirsty in its own way. Very few characters in the earlier movies had more than one parent, not all the characters made it to the end, and the main character often has to survive some kind of adversity to grow into the hero they need to be to save the day.
I just went on EE tv to buy a movie and found Doctor who. I clicked on it and it's £20 A SEASON! THATS £260 FOR DOCTOR WHO 2005-2023. Whats makes this worse was that it was on the trending page. Thank god I have BBC iplayer.
The fact that they made such a spectacle in the giggle with the whole thats alright then, I dont think they will go for doing major harm to Ruby. She might leave peacefully like martha (All traumatized😐)
Honestly after everything the doctor has been through I'm very happy just to have a season of doctor who with the doctor and his companion simply having fun.
Could Mrs Flood be Amy and Rorys adopted daughter? Could make sense as would explain her shock when the Tardis dematerialised as Amy and Rory would have told her stories of the doctor during her childhood so it's the shock of it all being true and would also explain why she k ow its a tardis. And yeah I know Amy and Rory lived and died in America but rs flood could have immigrated.
I think Rani would be someone to create a companion for the Doctor. Cause she’s all into science and such. Also Rani may be hiding as the old companion at Torchwood
Ruby is an ... interesting case. The Goblin king, after being foiled by the Doctor and Ruby, mucked about with time and ate Ruby as a baby, then the Doctor went back in time and impaled the Goblin King on the church spire before he could eat Ruby. This, plus the Issac Newton thing, plus the butterfly thing, makes this upcoming season completely up in the air; it's like time can be changed willy-nilly, like Earth is no longer a Temporal Nexus Point. If the stability of the timeline is in flux like it's a Bill and Ted movie, that alters the whole mavity of the show.
I'd go one further than Ellie regarding her theory on the Doctor's salt antics at the end of the universe - because the Doctor is a being for whom time is not exactly linear, I think that the ripples from his actions actually went both forwards AND backwards in his personal timeline - the gravity/mavity thing was almost like a warning shock of what was to come...
The question to ask is what is a Ruby. We know she takes risks, aka stepping on a butterfly, we know it also is a stone or or immitation, that is calming or open source in programming.. Each character has a great surname dont they. Blue tardis colour doors on Rubys street. A tardis sparking /igniting electrical discharge between conductors. A conductor likes musis or attracts lightening... think about it...
I can't help but think Bigeneration was introduced to some the Fugitive doctor thing. Like we find out the forced regeneration of the doctor caused there to be a second Doctor who served at the whim of the Timelords.
I’ve heard rumors that she appears in Season 2 mid-season at some point, so I find a death pretty unlikely. I’d bet that she’s actually the one carrying herself in The Church on Ruby Road, and with all the trauma he faced with companions, any danger she’s in will lead the Doctor to save Ruby no matter the cost.
Did I miss it or was there a mention of the recent interview with RTD where he strongly suggested the oncoming demise of the BBC and that there would have been no future for DW without Dinsey. Tharries has mentioned this and it is a huge thing so I am surprised it was not mentioned - unless it was during a knock on my front door. Cheerio
The whole character of Ruby and the doctor reminds me of 11 and Clara ( without the romantics hopefully) situation and how they were set up Missy and it just feels like day ja vu to me. Probably miles of but oh well😂 Also think she’s ☠️
Someone created the perfect companion for the Doctor, didn't that remind anyone of Clara Oswald? Because Missy put her in his path, right? And of course also River Song by the Silent. And also Rose was put in Doctor's path by BadWolf (herself). But somehow, Ruby keeps reminding me of the "Impossible Girl" in some way...
I know it's dark but I really hope Ruby does die, we need a good shocking companion death, Moffat almost had it with Clara until he saved her and gave her a Tardis of her own and almost nailed it with Bill being converted into a Cyberman but allowed her consciousness to survive.... We need to see how dangerous traveling with the Doctor really is, as awful as it is, I'd love to see Ruby die, horribly in a terrible situation to convey the message that travelling with The Doctor isn't safe, my biggest disappointment so far is that none of the Chibnall companions died, I adored Jodie's run, I know not everybody did but her and Matt are my all time favourites but there should have been more tragedy
Ruby, in one form or another, is toast. Ncuti's Doctor himself has already been given his walking papers before we get to see the first story of this season...
Honestly, I was so confused about the salt... I've never heard that myth so I just thought it's something the Doctor made up on the spot. Just a little silly made-up thing. So for it to suddenly be this giant thing that allowed the Toymaker to come and possibly change the fundamentals of the whole universe is a bit... jarring for me. Also, I really expect this to be more of a fresh start. With some references to the past but not something that would affect the plot too much.
The Trickster is pretty much scarier than like all Doctor Who villains (par like the mummy on the Orient Express) even though the SJA was made for kids lol.
The actually think that every episode or every other episode we will have something that alters Ruby's timeliness and thus Ruby in some way. In the Christmas special she didn't exist at all. In the trailer we see all this different Ruby's so whatever is happening is changing Ruby's timeliness again and again. We actually see he becoming an alien when she steps on the Butterfly. So whatever is happening is changing times lines around. I think she will survive. I think she will end up being different in some way though. I can see her not remembering the doctor but I a different way from Donna.
To me, "The Trickster" is a Flash comics villain... like I've said, I'm old. I always say that I'm 2 days older than dirt... ;-P BTW, that "Trickster" was played by Mark Hamill in the John Wesley Shipp Flash TV show...
We know that RTD likes to re-use old scripts (the lift/elevator episode that got converted for Wizards Vs Aliens) so I do wonder if this might be his way of re-visiting the “Sky” plot from TSJA where she was the trickster’s daughter
I wish we had more with him. He played "the house" in the Matt Smith episode where the Tardis was a human woman for awhile. It was only a voice acting part. Sheen and Tennant are magic together!
I do think your on to something, I wonder if this is all fantasy within the doctors mind, linked to the possible ‘memory machine’. The perfect companion, who just so happens to be a foundling like the Doctor, at a point where this is the most fresh trauma for a Doctor who has overcome his trauma. This may be a world created around the doctor to keep him occupied or trapped in his own bubble. I agree would love this to be the Trickster, most underated villain in doctor who, could easily be a big bad. Also: Toymakers- legions Tricksters - Brigade Rubys mum had a black hood, I’m reaching 😅
Do we count those lock down videos as cannon? Cause we have video where Rory is talking to his future adopted son Anthony , and there is a story that Anthony gave Brian a letter from Rory to explain what happen the day after Rory and Amy left. I do think that Ruby is going to be like Class. A lone survivor of an alien species. Or perhaps she could be from the other universe that child was standing in front of.
A thought . Mrs flood is an older Ruby. Something happened to her with the doc. She gets aged somehow and memerory erased. An older nchuti houses her back next her past self.
The more we find out about this series, the better it’s becoming. I find it really confusing that they only have her for a season, but we’ll see! (Why so many trailers?! It’s more and more writing every week 😂)
Here's a wild theory on Ruby. She could be Jenny's daughter. Season 1 title used as the show is starting with Doctor travelling with his granddaughter like the first time. Watch out for a scene in the finale when a flashback shows Jenny regenerating into a young Angie Watts and Doctor has emotional embrace with Mrs Flood as his long lost child.
Undoing the magic wouldn't necessarily get rid of the 15th doctor, but it might get rid of the split off 14,or it might mean that briefly the doctor would have a different face in the episode, there are simple ways they could address the logic of undoing the magic
Hey Sean I'd join you in Jurassic Park and Ellie I recommend watching Dinosaur Train to learn about Dinosaurs. I'm going to let others come up with theories and I'll sit back and wait.
I believe and hope that Ruby’s a fresh new character. But I must disagree with what’s been said during the vid, to have writers that haven’t seen the show before and know little about it is a rather risky choice. Star Wars’ latest films and series haven’t been exactly welcomed by fans and some find them too detached from the pre-Disney lore.
An interesting direction that probably will not happen is that what if Ruby is the one who dropped off baby Ruby (and even that Ruby is Ruby’s own mother…)
When Millie Gibson was first announced as the new companion Ruby Sunday and when I first saw, I believed she could be the best Who companion since Karen Gillan. I don't know what the fate of Ruby Sunday will be. Nobody does. It was announced a few months ago, Russell T. Davies is dropping Millie Gibson from Doctor Who at the end of the upcoming new series in favour of another actress. It's likely Ruby Sunday could be getting killed off or... maybe she just disappears.
At this point, I'd be more worried about the Doctor... Fourteen broke reality in Wild Blue Yonder, this allowed The Celestial Toymaker to enter our universe, and changed things so myths could become real... but surely that includes the myth that was "bigeneration". If things get fixed, what happens to Fifteen? Can he still exist if his creation was "impossible" by the natural order of things? Will Fifteen fix the universe, but fade away as a result, leaving us with Fourteen having to regenerate into "real" Fifteen / Sixteen / who knows???
Ruby is a "Well that's allright then!" waiting to happen
WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN
I love that
I love how we already have iconic catchphrases back again.
Came here looking for this comment 😂
Yep
I mean to be fair, Amy and Rory died of old age. In a way they were safe because they were forced to stop traveling with the Doctor.
and then resurrected as cybermen by the master along with all the other dead on earth.... swings and roundabouts, lol.
Well that’s alright then!
@@SilentBob2112 Made my day 😄
One of the things I've really appreciated about the series thus far is how each companion has gotten a unique send off, including Donna who now has two unique endings, both memory wipe and then living with the Doctor as part of her family... Joking aside about whether the pond's exit counts as a death or not, I like how there is genuine ambiguity in the sort of "everyone dies" and "good health is the slowest cause of death" way
Came to comment this@@SilentBob2112
9 minutes 42 seconds until Ellie mentioned River Song. This may just be a record!!
The whole "butterfly" thing is a 'myth' too, in the Doctor Who multiverse. Remember how 10 laughed at Martha for mentioning it in the Shakespeare one.
And Bill mentioned it in Thin ice too! 😄
RTD has said the new season is going to be more fantasy than sci-fi. Basically, anything can happen because it's all magic.
What was the butterfly thing?
Dam, you make a good point 😮
I think it is interesting to note that in goblin folklore, when goblins take a baby, they replace it with a baby of their own, known as a changeling. Looking at how all the myths and legends are becoming reality could this be part of the explanation ?
Fairies or elves leave changelings. It’s not normally goblins…but Dr. Who could do it with goblins.
@@Andreamom001 Ah, ok, thank you for correcting me on that. It could be used in Doctor Who, as you say, and explain some sort of alternate timelines and questioning which 'Ruby' The Doctor is travelling with ?
Like the "big milk thing" Amy that travelled in the TARDIS since Day Of The Moon, while the real Amy had a save pregnancy on Demon's Run...
@@LisaBeta-42 yeah, something along those lines. Like when The Doctor went back to save baby Ruby from the goblins, they gave him a changeling as a decoy. I do like the idea of a Ganger being referred to as a 'big milk thing', though it does bring a whole new meaning to those, 'Got Milk' campaign. Not gonna lie, it also makes me thankful that I only drink soya milk now ! lol ! :) x
“WELL, THAT’S ALL RIGHT THEN!!”
Long term Doctor who fans quietly handing new Doctor who fans the tissues and giving them a hug.
While very long term fans wonder why every companion has to end up worse off (until they get a Dr 10 byproduct to keep as their own).
Yes, there were deaths and sad departures in the classic series, but we also had ones finding new families to be part of (Victoria), finding their callings (Romana II), even becoming ruler of a planet (Steven). Most simply went home. And of course some got married. Though not as many as people think,
The Doctor: I will keep her safe. I promise.
Almost every fan: Somebody's going to *die* this series.
The Toymaker: Well that's alright then!
Rule Number One: the Doctor lies...
but companions dont die in Dr Who
@@gregevigan Tell that to Adric...
@@gregevigan Tell that to Amy and Rory. Tell that to Clara. Tell that to Adric. Tell that to Riversong.
The best example of “promise they’ll be safe” is definitely bill potts
That Dinosaurus that Fred used when he worked at the Slate Bedrock Company.
Lets hold a memorial for Ruby Sunday back in this comment section when the time innevitably comes... we can all cry together.
According to online dictionaries I've checked, there are up to 9 different acceptable pronunciations for "diplodicus." Ellie's pronunciation is a correct one.
"Have you been to Michael Sheen's house?"
"Not that HE knows!"
I nearly spat out my drink laughing!!
Ruby's fate and 15's promise - hasn't every Doctor promised to keep his/her companions safe? Jackie Tyler didn't trust 9, Francine Jones didn't trust 10, Mr Pink didn't trust 12, etc. Seems par for the course. With the Doctor danger and adventure are interposable. Cheers....
I'd like it if everything is happening in spite of Ruby's presence, rather than because of it. I want her to be the biggest red herring in history.
I don't want y'all to stop speculating, because I enjoy these videos immensely. I just think it would be funny if everything points exactly at everything you've mentioned, and it's all wrong.
I've always said and heard "Dip-luh-Doh-cuss". And it looked like one to me. And if it's not, that's quite the pivot. Hey, I can make Ross references, too.
I’d never heard it the way Ellie said it before she said it. I’ve never heard or said it any way but “dip-LA-da-kiss”.
You know I can't wait for them to make a companion that slowly turns into a villain for the doctor. If done right could become an ongoing villain that could always come back like the master. What if Ruby is that?
Adam? It was in audiobooks, but he became a villain out of anger at the Doctor.
Wouldn't you class Turlough (5th Doctor) as a villain?
Yes, originally he was.
Just a thought... What if, in the "Beatles episode", Ruby Sunday gets introduced to the Rolling Stones, and they get an idea for a song, but change it from "Sunday" to "Tuesday"? That's how I like the Doctor affecting history... inadvertently... ;-)
Russell T Davies doesn't kill off his main characters, Captain Jack got revived (and has since come back to life hundreds of times), Rose is living a happy life with her family and her own version of The Doctor, Martha got a happy life with her family and even got married, Donna got a happy life with her family and The Doctor, Jackson Lake got his kid back, Lady Christina De Souza is still a cat burglar and (in universe) Wilf has a happy family life (because Donna has a happy family life). And even The 14th Doctor didn't regenerate. The only main characters/companions he has killed and they have stayed dead is Astrid Peth and Captain Adelaide Brooke, and Captain Adelaide Brooke's death was basically a fixed point in time. So I think Ruby will not only survive her time with The Doctor but have a better life after her travels.
So I think the section of "Wild Blue Yonder" with Isaac Newton
is the key to what broke time Maverty is used from there on then the Doctor at the edge of the universe invoke superstition making it possible for the Toymaker to enter and other stuff.
I agree! There’s been discussions about them wanting to create a Doctor Who multiverse and the way mavity was used , seems to indicate that change. Because as the Doctor states in wild blue yonder, he’d feel the effects of time travel in his bones. There’s already an allusion to the toymaker not being from their universe. This would also help to keep previous regenerations as cannon, while still being able to now have bigenerations as canon (but in a different universe). It would also let the writers play around with different histories of the timelords and different versions of the Doctor without changing the character of the Doctor.
My theory, hear me out: Ruby *is* what's wrong with time. The goblins and the accidents were essentially time trying to correct the issue, and that's how they traveled back in time to get her. It's why time doesn't heal itself and Mavity is a thing. Now, why she's the problem is interesting, but I'd wager the hooded mom is essentially her dropping herself off and the scene of the doctor crying in that Christmas episode is from him saying goodbye to her, not from the him going back to save Ruby.
Yep basically 👍 the BIG clue is being told she has no living relatives
The props department didn't do a very good job of ageing the gravestone. I've seen ones in my local cemetery that aren't as old as that one is supposed to be, but look older.
15:17 maybe Ruby is a Changeling
Edit there’s also a whole family of long necked Dinosaurs they’re called Sauropods they include Brachiosaurus, Apatosaurus and more
If impossible things are now possible in Doctor Who, could Ruby possibly be her own mother? Or at least she's the one who drops her baby self off at the church. The hooded figure looks like it could be her.
I really hope they bring back The Beast from the Satan Pit in this season. Makes perfect sense with all the fantasy this season, and they even say in the trailer that "the whole world is going to fall into the pit"
RT does like spreading David around the place, I am not complaining my first born Rose 2nd Billie ❤❤❤
I think she might survive since we know Millie Gibson has filmed stuff for Ncuti Gatwa's next season based on an article thst came out this year but she might be in danger this season that has the Doctor try to save her but I definitely think she'll survive this season until she leaves the TARDIS for good unless they bring the actress back before the episodes she's filmed for the next season, I mean it wouldn't be the first time one or more of the Doctor's past companions came back for an episode or two but we'll have to see what happens this season
The irony is Moff is the only one to "kill off" all the compsnions ...Rose, Martha, Donna and of course the Fam are all safe and fine with kives transformed forever but we literally saw Amy Rory River Clara and Bill die in front of our eyes ....RTD will give Ruby most likely lead role in a spin off
Actually Rtd killed River song
Bill survived and became human again dying of old age in the expanded universe
@@Nonamer69420 how? It was a Moff episode written by Moff for his arc not RTD
@@joshuawilliams2063 ....suee
Well I feel RTD still gave his characters tough consequences even though they didn't die, and I think at some point he is going to kill off a companion.
I often think back to Cassandra and realize how sad her ending was. Turns out that the last person who ever told her she was beautiful was herself. It's extra sad, knowing how concerned she was with outward beauty.
I'd rather then didn't get rid of the companion, then bring them back. We've seen it happen with Nyssa, River Song, Jenny, Donna, Rose, Clara, Bill, even past Doctors. (I don't always dislike their return but…) (But I would like to see Susan one last time.)
As always thank you all so very much for the videos.
I don't get "hung-up" on pronunciations. I was born in California in 1960, then in the later 60's I started going to school in England, and watching a new show called "Doctor Who", and in a few years returned to California with my Aussie father, and Canadian mum. And I've learned, and come to accept, there are many alternative pronunciations. (Heck, I first learned to call them Brontosauruses.)
I feel Mrs Flood might be a kind of guardian to Ruby, like Obi-Wan/Ben Kenobi looking over Luke on Tatooine in Star Wars. Could she somehow have played a hand in Ruby being fostered/adopted by Carla? This is why she is just a seemingly kindly neighbour, but there is a bigger link we don't know yet?
What if bigeneration is only a myth in the sense that it's not a myth amongst Timelords, but a myth amongst Galifreyans? Regeneration exists because of the Doctor. And the Doctor's origin is still technically unknown. The reason bigeneration could be considered a Timelord myth is because Timelords were considered to be exclusively Galifreyan. The Doctor, not being Galifreyan, may be technically capable of bigeneration. So the Doctor bigenerating may not be the result of invoking the impossible, but rather revealing what was previously thought to be impossible as possible.
I could expand on this idea and say that bigeneration was impossible in THIS universe. But because the Doctor isn't from this Universe, he can technically invoke what is possible in his original universe. The only reason he hasn't until now was because the universe was so vast that he was subject to the laws of this universe. But as the Doctor grew in power, including going beyond the 12 regeration limit and the advent of many lives prior to the 1st Doctor, and with the Flux erasing half of this universe from time itself, perhaps the Doctor has grown powerful enough to influence the natural laws of this universe. Perhaps that's why the Timelords would reset his memories, so that he doesn't grow so powerful that he can influence this universe.
What if Ruby is from the same universe that the Doctor is from?
Time Lords were not exclusively Gallifreyans, at least if we venture into EU. Just mostly do.
Leela after she stays on Gallifrey was supposedly in training to become a Time Lady.
@@myrddinemrys1332 To be fair, River could also be considered a Time Lord too. Or at least part Time Lord. But it does seem as if Galifreyans have exclusive rights as to who becomes a Time Lord at least.
But it still means that my original point still works. The idea that bigeneration isn't a Time Lord myth, but a Galifreyan myth.
They've made a big thing about this Doctor getting over the ubiquitous angst of the previous Revival Who. I think it would completely undermine that to have something horrible happen to his first companion! Let's let him be a cheerful, happy-go-lucky breath of fresh air for a while!
I have a good feeling about RTD getting the balance between Lore connections and original lore, managed that great already in 2005.
how bout that scene where she looks older with the glasses is something like the amy waterfall thingy where she ages on a separate time stream but this time ruby gets evil in a more resoluted way and turns against the doctor?
There was something in what you mentioned that scratched a mental itch I've been having about salt. In the 2nd DT special the doctor invokes salt as a line his doppelganger couldn't cross and then regretted using superstition at the edge of the universe. In the toymaker episode after TM is defeated Kate orders the box to be locked in salt.....it seemed a strange thing to say.... but for salt to be used in 2 episodes in a superstitious was felt like it was going to lead to something else. But not mentioned in the Christmas episode?
I think she ordered it locked in salt after hearing that salt worked once before. It's a weird superstition, sure, but I think she'd take anything she could get to stop the TM.
Ah, we know that RTD likes to give his companions dark endings, but RTD knows that we know he does that, so maybe he won't. BUT HE KNOWS THAT WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW, so maybe it will end in tears yet!
Don't forget that Disney is quite bloodthirsty in its own way. Very few characters in the earlier movies had more than one parent, not all the characters made it to the end, and the main character often has to survive some kind of adversity to grow into the hero they need to be to save the day.
I just went on EE tv to buy a movie and found Doctor who. I clicked on it and it's £20 A SEASON! THATS £260 FOR DOCTOR WHO 2005-2023.
Whats makes this worse was that it was on the trending page.
Thank god I have BBC iplayer.
@YungAtz The BBC wont take it off BBC iplayer. They wouldn't risk getting rid of the BBC program.
The Doctor invoked “superstition.’
That Flash/arrow Grave meme killed me. Hahaha
Hocus, pocus,
plodding through the swamp;
I'm a diplodocus,
chomp, chomp, chomp!
"I'm a Diplodocus" by Judith Nicholls
The fact that they made such a spectacle in the giggle with the whole thats alright then, I dont think they will go for doing major harm to Ruby. She might leave peacefully like martha (All traumatized😐)
"I will keep her safe... I PROMISE"... she is sooooo screwed.... ;-P
Rule one: the Doctor lies (mostly to himself, as Donna observed).
😂 Ellie when you said ‘diplo-docus’ I legitimately thought this was an alternate British variation of the name! Now I am cracking up!
Honestly after everything the doctor has been through I'm very happy just to have a season of doctor who with the doctor and his companion simply having fun.
Could Mrs Flood be Amy and Rorys adopted daughter?
Could make sense as would explain her shock when the Tardis dematerialised as Amy and Rory would have told her stories of the doctor during her childhood so it's the shock of it all being true and would also explain why she k ow its a tardis.
And yeah I know Amy and Rory lived and died in America but rs flood could have immigrated.
They adopted a son.
I think Rani would be someone to create a companion for the Doctor. Cause she’s all into science and such. Also Rani may be hiding as the old companion at Torchwood
15 would still exist without bigeneration. Bigeneration is just regular regeneration with silly special effects.
Ruby is an ... interesting case. The Goblin king, after being foiled by the Doctor and Ruby, mucked about with time and ate Ruby as a baby, then the Doctor went back in time and impaled the Goblin King on the church spire before he could eat Ruby. This, plus the Issac Newton thing, plus the butterfly thing, makes this upcoming season completely up in the air; it's like time can be changed willy-nilly, like Earth is no longer a Temporal Nexus Point. If the stability of the timeline is in flux like it's a Bill and Ted movie, that alters the whole mavity of the show.
Isaac not Issac.
@@Lazmanarus blame my TYPOist.
Idea- Russel T does what he always said he would do if he returned to Dr Who, and put pieces into trailers that dont happen in any episode.
I'd like to think that Rory and Amy found Bryan at some point in his younger days
They did not kill off Amy and Rory they were just sent back in time, they lived a full and happy life just without the Doctor and River
And then they died of old age.
I'd go one further than Ellie regarding her theory on the Doctor's salt antics at the end of the universe - because the Doctor is a being for whom time is not exactly linear, I think that the ripples from his actions actually went both forwards AND backwards in his personal timeline - the gravity/mavity thing was almost like a warning shock of what was to come...
In fact, that could also explain why the Doctor went back to an old version of himself...
The question to ask is what is a Ruby. We know she takes risks, aka stepping on a butterfly, we know it also is a stone or or immitation, that is calming or open source in programming.. Each character has a great surname dont they. Blue tardis colour doors on Rubys street. A tardis sparking /igniting electrical discharge between conductors. A conductor likes musis or attracts lightening... think about it...
They went past the edge of the universe, whose to say the came back to the right universe....
I can't help but think Bigeneration was introduced to some the Fugitive doctor thing. Like we find out the forced regeneration of the doctor caused there to be a second Doctor who served at the whim of the Timelords.
I’ve heard rumors that she appears in Season 2 mid-season at some point, so I find a death pretty unlikely.
I’d bet that she’s actually the one carrying herself in The Church on Ruby Road, and with all the trauma he faced with companions, any danger she’s in will lead the Doctor to save Ruby no matter the cost.
And even better is that there's a second trailer dropping on Easter Sunday! (Along with the episode titles of course)
Idk if its true but i heard we might be getting a trailer on sunday revealing the titles
It is true! We'll be covering that news as soon as it drops.
@@WhoCulture omg! I'm so excited
Did I miss it or was there a mention of the recent interview with RTD where he strongly suggested the oncoming demise of the BBC and that there would have been no future for DW without Dinsey. Tharries has mentioned this and it is a huge thing so I am surprised it was not mentioned - unless it was during a knock on my front door. Cheerio
Just so you know I took my daughter to premier midnight showing of Jurassic Park. We also listened to the Audio book before the movie came out.
The whole character of Ruby and the doctor reminds me of 11 and Clara ( without the romantics hopefully) situation and how they were set up Missy and it just feels like day ja vu to me. Probably miles of but oh well😂
Also think she’s ☠️
Omg I agree on all of this except maybe day ja vu 😂
Ah yeah, It's Deja Vu all over again.
@Cheese16384 Omg I just realised I spelt that so wrong 😂. Should I change it?
@@johnnyash6384 nah it’s funny
@@Cheese16384I wish it was called day ja vu, love it 😂💗
Someone created the perfect companion for the Doctor, didn't that remind anyone of Clara Oswald? Because Missy put her in his path, right? And of course also River Song by the Silent. And also Rose was put in Doctor's path by BadWolf (herself). But somehow, Ruby keeps reminding me of the "Impossible Girl" in some way...
I know it's dark but I really hope Ruby does die, we need a good shocking companion death, Moffat almost had it with Clara until he saved her and gave her a Tardis of her own and almost nailed it with Bill being converted into a Cyberman but allowed her consciousness to survive.... We need to see how dangerous traveling with the Doctor really is, as awful as it is, I'd love to see Ruby die, horribly in a terrible situation to convey the message that travelling with The Doctor isn't safe, my biggest disappointment so far is that none of the Chibnall companions died, I adored Jodie's run, I know not everybody did but her and Matt are my all time favourites but there should have been more tragedy
Ruby, in one form or another, is toast. Ncuti's Doctor himself has already been given his walking papers before we get to see the first story of this season...
Honestly, I was so confused about the salt... I've never heard that myth so I just thought it's something the Doctor made up on the spot. Just a little silly made-up thing.
So for it to suddenly be this giant thing that allowed the Toymaker to come and possibly change the fundamentals of the whole universe is a bit... jarring for me.
Also, I really expect this to be more of a fresh start. With some references to the past but not something that would affect the plot too much.
Salt is common in folklore as a way to ward off bad luck, protect from demons, that sort of thing.
The Trickster is pretty much scarier than like all Doctor Who villains (par like the mummy on the Orient Express) even though the SJA was made for kids lol.
"Can we have the Doctor?"
"We don't to get a Doctor, we've already got a Doctor at home."
Doctor at home: BTEC / Discount Doctor.
The actually think that every episode or every other episode we will have something that alters Ruby's timeliness and thus Ruby in some way. In the Christmas special she didn't exist at all. In the trailer we see all this different Ruby's so whatever is happening is changing Ruby's timeliness again and again. We actually see he becoming an alien when she steps on the Butterfly. So whatever is happening is changing times lines around. I think she will survive. I think she will end up being different in some way though. I can see her not remembering the doctor but I a different way from Donna.
Here's a wild theory, at 23:01 I'm seeing Anthony Ainley. Or I could be imagining things.
doctor is fun, has light hearted moments but in all its actually quite dark
I always used to say diplodocus like Ellie, then I changed to the US pronunciation 'cause I thought I was wrong. I'm now happily changing back :)
Heavenly Host:(bing)Information,...
Ruby Sunday is going to going to dye...😂😜✌️🥃
Flood River Song, the Doctor Rivers offspring 😊
To me 8 episodes is half or a third of a season. Whatever its going to be it will be rushed.
Ellie is so adorable!!❤❤❤❤
I think the phrase you were looking for is the doctor invoked superstition at the end of the universe.
To me, "The Trickster" is a Flash comics villain... like I've said, I'm old. I always say that I'm 2 days older than dirt... ;-P
BTW, that "Trickster" was played by Mark Hamill in the John Wesley Shipp Flash TV show...
Didn't Missy put Clara in the Doctor's path, to be the perfect companion?
There doing a Dallas story, In the end of the 2nd series the Doctor wake's up and it was all a bad dream !
We know that RTD likes to re-use old scripts (the lift/elevator episode that got converted for Wizards Vs Aliens) so I do wonder if this might be his way of re-visiting the “Sky” plot from TSJA where she was the trickster’s daughter
We really need to get Micheal Sheen in the Who diverse, ideally with Tennant.
I wish we had more with him. He played "the house" in the Matt Smith episode where the Tardis was a human woman for awhile. It was only a voice acting part. Sheen and Tennant are magic together!
I do think your on to something, I wonder if this is all fantasy within the doctors mind, linked to the possible ‘memory machine’.
The perfect companion, who just so happens to be a foundling like the Doctor, at a point where this is the most fresh trauma for a Doctor who has overcome his trauma. This may be a world created around the doctor to keep him occupied or trapped in his own bubble. I agree would love this to be the Trickster, most underated villain in doctor who, could easily be a big bad.
Also:
Toymakers- legions
Tricksters - Brigade
Rubys mum had a black hood, I’m reaching 😅
Do we count those lock down videos as cannon? Cause we have video where Rory is talking to his future adopted son Anthony , and there is a story that Anthony gave Brian a letter from Rory to explain what happen the day after Rory and Amy left.
I do think that Ruby is going to be like Class. A lone survivor of an alien species. Or perhaps she could be from the other universe that child was standing in front of.
Assume yes, Ruby will die. Then mentally and emotionally prepare for it. Then, if it turns out she survives, it's a pleasant surprise!
A thought . Mrs flood is an older Ruby. Something happened to her with the doc. She gets aged somehow and memerory erased. An older nchuti houses her back next her past self.
one of these days I want a companion who turns out to be the master
That would be so cool!
The more we find out about this series, the better it’s becoming. I find it really confusing that they only have her for a season, but we’ll see!
(Why so many trailers?! It’s more and more writing every week 😂)
Here's a wild theory on Ruby. She could be Jenny's daughter. Season 1 title used as the show is starting with Doctor travelling with his granddaughter like the first time. Watch out for a scene in the finale when a flashback shows Jenny regenerating into a young Angie Watts and Doctor has emotional embrace with Mrs Flood as his long lost child.
I'd like to see the Trickster.
(Equally as creepy as the Gentlemen in Buffy in "Hush"😲)
Undoing the magic wouldn't necessarily get rid of the 15th doctor, but it might get rid of the split off 14,or it might mean that briefly the doctor would have a different face in the episode, there are simple ways they could address the logic of undoing the magic
Hey Sean I'd join you in Jurassic Park and Ellie I recommend watching Dinosaur Train to learn about Dinosaurs. I'm going to let others come up with theories and I'll sit back and wait.
I believe and hope that Ruby’s a fresh new character.
But I must disagree with what’s been said during the vid, to have writers that haven’t seen the show before and know little about it is a rather risky choice. Star Wars’ latest films and series haven’t been exactly welcomed by fans and some find them too detached from the pre-Disney lore.
if Star Trek and Doctor Who ever did a cross over at this point....it should be "P'ting, I Choose you!"...."Moopsy, I choose you!"
This is beside the point, but "Ruby Sunday" sounds like the name of an ice cream.
An interesting direction that probably will not happen is that what if Ruby is the one who dropped off baby Ruby (and even that Ruby is Ruby’s own mother…)
When Millie Gibson was first announced as the new companion Ruby Sunday and when I first saw, I believed she could be the best Who companion since Karen Gillan. I don't know what the fate of Ruby Sunday will be. Nobody does. It was announced a few months ago, Russell T. Davies is dropping Millie Gibson from Doctor Who at the end of the upcoming new series in favour of another actress. It's likely Ruby Sunday could be getting killed off or... maybe she just disappears.
Lines in trailers and promotions are known to be cut and spliced to avoid spoilers so I'd not take anything at face value.
Being a trap and a mystery to solve is much more Clara than River imo
My thoughts exactly 🙈
At this point, I'd be more worried about the Doctor... Fourteen broke reality in Wild Blue Yonder, this allowed The Celestial Toymaker to enter our universe, and changed things so myths could become real... but surely that includes the myth that was "bigeneration". If things get fixed, what happens to Fifteen? Can he still exist if his creation was "impossible" by the natural order of things? Will Fifteen fix the universe, but fade away as a result, leaving us with Fourteen having to regenerate into "real" Fifteen / Sixteen / who knows???