The fact that the rest of the family in the first story (including OPs fiancé) acted like the mothers behavior was totally normal is whats so scary about all that. Shes so deranged the rest of the family has been battered into submission
abusive people get their power from normalizing their BS to the point their victims will stick up for them. Sometimes is not even about submission but purely control. my grandma was like that, if you weren't beaten into submission (grandma was very violent) you were placed in a situation where you had no control.
Exactly! Clearly the GF was not like her mother or he'd have noticed. She clearly reverts back to a submissive role when around her abusive mother and can't see past it. Wish OP had seen this situation for what it really was and not just dipped over a dinner!
Yep I was just coming to say this cus if they really thought she was right they would have been yelling with her (we’ve all seen entitled families on tic tok or in real life) but instead they all just sit there blank and don’t say a thing and just let her yell even the 6 year old don’t have a reaction to her yelling meaning even she’s used to it. They were broken down so much they think the entitlement is normal but for some reason don’t seem to act outwardly entitled themselves other then agreeing with the mom which is hella weird I’ve never seen that
*Story #1:* Yes ma’am Granny is a hero LMAO. OP’s GF’s family is UNHINGED, and the fact that OP and his pseudo-fiancé broke up due to the restaurant fiasco “Ellen” caused and once the red flags were exposed; OP not only acknowledged them he dodged a nuclear missile.
I feel bad for that six year old girl in the first story. She's either going to be a garbage human being, or she's going to think she's garbage because of who her mother is 😢
@@cherishhighvibes4283 I’ve known normal people who are embarrassed of their family with mothers like that it’s not 100% they do more often turn out like their parents sadly but not all the time
Jup. I don't see how OP could say they "both" dodged a bullet. OFC this is only one issue in their relationship, but I doubt he's getting anywhere close to the low bar the girlfriend's setting (who thinks her mum's was behaving normally)
Lil Udon, you sound like an awesome cat parent and I hope you and your kitties are able to be somewhere safe and away from your toxic family. Hugs and purrs from me and my big floof ❤😽
Story 1: Grandma for the win, op doged a necula bomb Last story: poor udon my cat means so much to me so i can only imagen the pain you went tough mentally, as a fellow autistic person i find my animals help me in some ways. Hope things get better for you soon and give yoour fur babies lots of cuddles that always helps me feel better. 54:44 I love thease daily episodes highlight of my day
I listen to OKOP daily while getting ready for work. I legit had to sit down because I was laughing too hard about the old lady knocking the mashed potatoes on the floor. 🤣😂🤣
1st Story: Man that dude is lucky to have gotten away from that family. I suspect the father wishes he could leave too. 😂 Last Story: So sorry you’re going through this. Maybe check some agencies like rehabilitation for the disabled or etc to see if you can get some assistance to move out sooner. Also, wouldn’t hurt to check places for abuse to see if they can assist with housing.
Yeah being rude to waitstaff for literally just doing their job is an immediate no for me. I’m surprised he stayed until they got kicked out. I would have walked out the second she pulled the tip bs. Unacceptable behavior
Having been a server for more than a decade, it’s common practice for families to order the childrens food first and often restaurants will ask/offer but the mom putting hers in as well while everyone else waits? Now that’s mean of her (as well as the rest of her entitled behavior).
I hope the last OP can get enough money together to get far far away from them and fast. No one deserves that kind of treatment. I’m so so sorry for you and your kitties, OP. ❤😢
It's cool that OP works at a non-profit. I work at an art nonprofit that specializes in glass art and classes. Just because someone works at a nonprofit, doesn't mean they don't get paid. It depends on the organization, but my work pays me $15/hr for part time work. We occasionally get volunteers but all staff including me get paid a set wage. That's a common misconception for nonprofits that workers don't get paid but we do.
I’m sorry the first story I wish someone would stand up to her it’s crazy . I would be so embarrassed she’s literally insane. Wow that 6yr old has more logic
Last Story: Oof, I know the feeling of not being able to move out of an abμ$ive home, save up, research some rentable apartments FAR from your family's place, get a decent enough job that can pay half the rent, and get ready to lawyer up because the "mom" might try some mess when you move out. Good luck to you and hope you succeed!
I really needed to hear the OP talk about freedom. I recently moved away from my home town and family a year ago and recently have been craving on going back mostly because it's what I know. But I feel a bit stronger to keep living my life the way I want.
Oh, if I was a waiter. I would absolutely take a $0 tip to prolong things as absolutely long as I can without looking like I am, just to mess with this lady $0 for a lifetime of enjoyment. I'll take 0.
the application story made me laugh, honestly. i'm the cute little receptionist at my job and i'm sure what ever miss paegent girl learned from her mama about customer service work ain't gonna fly at a real job, especially not nowadays lol. where i live, reception is a pretty hard job to get, especially since i work at a government office, i had to flex my 5 years of retail industry experience to get it.
Lil Udon I'm so sorry that your precious fur babies was poisoned. Stay strong and I hope you can move soon so you can have a happy place with your fur babies. Sending lots of love a fellow cat mom ❤
Story 3: Therapy is not necessarily the best option for all (a large part of my anxiety actually comes from a past therapist from childhood) but it comes down to a good support network whether from a professional or blood family or even chosen family
Story 3 was similar to what I had in the past. So glad to OP that she stood up to her folks in the end. The parents are bonkers in the end. I love the "end game" of the couple. Last story, I C U!
I may not agree with Riley on him saying "if the mom acts like that, the daughter will act like that" but I can definitely see why you guys feel that way. These mothers are horrific and obviously don't understand how the real world works. Also, I love you guys podcast and your reactions. ❤
Lil Don't, you deserve so much better. Letting you stay there without paying rent is no excuse to be abused by her. Wherever you go, let the police know so they can update the address for the restraining order.
Story 2- her parents have serious issues and enable each other to live in an illogical world run by their own rules. It’s horrifying enough any parent would treat their grown offspring like they are still children or extensions of themselves, but this extent of manipulation and guilt tripping is inexcusable. OP’s parents may be beyond help after being in their own world for this long. All that can be done is accept that this may not be fixable and it’s not a victim’s responsibility to fix it. We can only control our own lives.
I have an insane grandmother, my fiance has an insane mother... its not hard for either of us to see the insanity of our families. No second chance. If she was put in an ultimatum between him and her mother, she'd probably have chosen her mother. My fiance openly told his mother if it really came down to it he'd choose me.
First story: 0P definitely dodged a bullet! Not because of her mom’s behavior, but because of her own behavior of condoning her mother’s behavior and the inability to realize how wrong it was!
His comment about bringing potatoes to all the other tables around theirs was so funny. I can picture it now: Waiter: here's your potatoes Table: erm...we didn't order potatoes Waiter: I know. Enjoy. On the house, I have a petty revenge to work through. Table: visibly confused as the Waiter looks over that entitled mother and smiles as he walks away
For the third story, I had to "break up" with my mom for a while because I had become too disabled to work and I wanted to go on disability while I figured out my options for a potential career. My mom didn't like this. She thought that I just wanted to be lazy and take advantage of her, so then she kicked me out. Then her friend's son died and my mom realized that she was wrong for being mad at me for my choices. Now we are talking again, she's proud of me for having my own apartment, and she's supportive of me. You don't always have to agree with your kids' choices, but a good parent will try to understand and will be supportive anyway. I can back up that therapy helps so much. And if a narcissist parent wants to fix the relationship, only do it if they're willing to do both individual therapy and family therapy.
I am so glad he got to see this first hand. He saw other things as he said at the end, realizing they weren't on the same page. This was the last straw for him ❤
same here. my MIL is awesome but the FIL not so but they are divorced cos he is an alco, treats my wife like garbage thankfully he lives in another stare so we only see him once or twice a year
When they said engaged to be engaged, they didn’t mean they were engaged because they want to be, as if others don’t want to be engaged lol. It was meant like, they’ve made a promise to be engaged, they aren’t engaged to be married yet, they’re engaged to be engaged because they haven’t had a formal proposal.
S1 no, no chance because she's still attached to MIL and life wouldn't be liveable S2 no, no it's the south and it's a customer facing job. "Well bless your heart! You must be so proud of your daughter." The sweetest of smiles
For the story of the woman whose parents hate her lawyer boyfriend: I think her parents were attempting a power play, thinking if they got their daughter to give in, then they could control her forever, probably getting money out of her eventually. They were attempting some long-term manipulation that would solidify control. That's why they had no logical reason for disliking him.
Story 3: It would seem that no matter what desirable qualities OP’s boyfriend has, OP’s parents are always going to find something pathetic to dislike him for. So he’s a lawyer, educated, kind, understanding, reliable, etc. But Lord forbid that he didn’t do the driving to the cabin instead of OP, wore a hoodie to keep warm at the cabin and when they travelled to boyfriend’s parents for OP’s introduction they didn’t call in to them, even though they had already called to introduce the boyfriend. Boyfriend could give all his money to charity, help at soup kitchens every day and take part in overseas aid and it still wouldn’t be enough for OP’s parents. She’s well rid of them.
My parents do not like my husband. Mainly because he is 21 years older than me, but there are personality issues at play as well. When he got sick and needed a lung transplant, they let us move in with them because at the end of the day, he is my husband and the father of their grandson.
Last Op, stay strong and hold on tight. Find people who you can truly lean on. It seems you also need some comfort from a professional therapist. Maybe you can't afford it right now, but it's the best gift you can give yourself, so my recommendation is to not forget about it and try to also save up for that purpose. ❤❤❤
The one with the parents that 'just don't like her boyfriend' really sounds like their nest is emptying out, and none of them are willing to admit their daughter is a grown ass adult. They won't have any other children that 'need' them, and they since they aren't the center of her attention anymore , and don't want to 'share'-- they resort to slander/threats/tears. It might have been able to be worked out with group therapy, but in this context? It's like a part of them 'needed' to push her away first rather than accepting the inevitable. It 'needs' to be 'her fault' somehow, so they save face. So sad.
The one with the parents cutting off the daughter is so heartbreaking. Mine nearly did the same, ironically driving me further into the hands of my abuser and now that I've left him they get "I told you so" rights. (In a much better situation now dw)
For the guy who says his mother allowed him to think that his cat had died or was missing depending on where he lives, whether it's in the US or internationally, there are services and even grants and sometimes housing for those with special needs. He should look into what's available in his area for people with autism. If he's in America then the Americans with disabilities organization is a good resource.
maybe the parents just want her to get with a macho type lumberjack or smtn, someone who´s uneducated and does physical labor because that´s more "manly". Idk it just shows they're sexist and delusional and she's better off away from them.
My parents were like as well. When I was just interested in my now husband they asked if he was Christian and when I said “ya know, I never asked. I don’t think so” i knew it was gonna be a rough ride. They never treated him well, 4 years into our relationship he defended me when I had a panic attack in front of them and he was literally banned from not only their house but ALL family functions. My parents would fight with me all the time about him, tell me “it’s him or us, are you really going to choose him?” And I was like “are y’all? Gonna make me choose? For WHAT”. This went on for SIX YEARS. Then he proposed and ALL OF A SUDDEN the whole thing changed. My mom was over the moon ready to plan a wedding and begs us daily for her grandchildren. Once we got married he was allowed to family parties again 💀. I always feel bad because his parents always treated me like another daughter even before we were dating!
They never apologized or acknowledged any of it either it upsets me greatly. But my husband says if they wanna pretend it never happened then it’s fine with him we can play along, he’ll just never trust them for anything.
In the story with the Karen parents, I’m wondering if the boyfriend is a different raaaace? The fact that they said he wouldn’t “fit-in” with their family is a major red flag. Okay, never mind. They are a narcissistic duo, and are upset they are losing their number one source of supply. They’re afraid that if she has a healthy relationship then they won’t be able to gaslight her anymore with the bare minimum that they have been doing in her life. And, that this relationship will solidify that they truly are the source of her anxiety etc. My heart goes out to OP, she may have to gray rock them if not go full no contact.
If you are dining with someone who acts like that in a restaurant, and you don’t say anything, you’re also an asshole. I mean, barring very few scenarios (like your Grammy’s dementia or a domestic abuse situation), if you don’t speak up or remove yourself from the situation, you’re pretty much complicit in the assholery. I can not tell you how many tables I’ve had approach me during or after someone at their table has acted a fool, and quietly apologize to me for someone else’s behavior. Once, I had a lady stand up and throw her food at me before calling me and my coworkers horrendous names, because she didn’t like that the egg on the eggs Benedict was poached. That’s how it comes, and it says so on the menu. Not a single person at their table stopped her, or even made eye contact with me, as she continued on to tell me I should kill myself. It was a 12 top. As soon as they were done, all but one came up to me and meekly apologized. “We really don’t even know her that well, so we didn’t want to get involved.” Really? You didn’t want to get involved, while she threw food all over the tables around yours? Or when she told my manager that he was clearly retarded, and a charity hire? What would it have taken for you to say something??? What I ended up actually saying was, “I appreciate you saying so. If you ever find yourself in that scenario again, don’t be afraid to speak up. I have to respond professionally in those scenarios, but you don’t. And had she been mean to you, I could have kicked her out, because I can’t have someone verbally assaulting my other customers.” Honestly, I almost quit that day. Not because of her, but because the owners didn’t kick her out. I mean, the whole table stayed for 4 hours, and they were disruptive for at least 2 of them. I’m not a fighter, but I was so angry, I was shaking and fighting off adrenaline tears. When I have my own restaurant, I’m never tolerating that kind of behavior. Oh, and I’m actually gonna pay everyone too.
I don't understand parents who think they have any say in their child's life once they're adults. How can you tell your 20+yo who to date? Especially when there's no DV or anything involved. I've been no-contact with my parents and sisters for 9yrs+ & I have no regrets about it.
Unaccepted lawyer boyfriend-The parents met him one//two times??!! She could have forced more time together first. Crazy. The parents will come around if marriage & especially grandkids come ♥️
Since she knew that they don't want to see him, then I don't think forcing meetings would do anything good. For me it looks like they just didn't like to see her happy.
He was banned from the house and family functions for wearing a hoodie, those parents are nuts and the best thing that could happen is staying far away from them and especially if they have kids. Those kids will be subjecting to same treatment she was
The story of the parents not liking the boyfriend/lawyer, were rather possesive. They would've done the same thing with every boyfriend that she would've brought to meet them. She did what she had to do to leave that toxicity behind.
41:14 this is something my parents literally made my bf and I do 44:09 this is literally also something my father screamed at me about, maybe I ghost wrote this post??? (Although like he did physically discipline me as a child he just meant he at least MOSTLY stopped once I turned 14)
Those parents are irrational and it's about control. My mom has hurt her own feelings and created distance between us by creating narratives and treating them like reality
Granny is my hero! God i hope to be like her when im older and she sounds like both my dear grandmas who have sadly pass i miss them dearly! Also, im 4'9 and weigh 145lbs right now and i always weighed 110 until i was 32, im 34 now so, her height and weight is perfect! I bet shes a beautiful girl as well! Just because her daughter won a pageant doesnt mean shes a pretty girl inside or out, because a lot of girls and women who do the whole pageant thing, are usually seriosuly dolled up, heavy make up, hair, heck some of them even get plastic surgery done so early and can get disgnosed with EDs and other mental illnesses its rather sad so yeah. And the third story, if my parents ever said that to me without good and valid reasons, id go low contact or no contact because im an adult and her bf sounds like a smart, kind man. I get so tired of hearing about "traditional norms" and parents who care about money or status more than their childrens happiness its so disappointing and disgusting. Im so lucky and blessed for my parents and the life ive had and continue to have even though my mom has passed r.i.p momma i miss you! Love yall and this pod so much and the OK fam! ❤❤
25:15 exactly Riley! Cause you ARE pretty enough !! 🤣❤️ I be doing that awkward shifting to. People im close to absolutely hate it when I do it in public with them if someone is rude to me Lmao
The fact that the rest of the family in the first story (including OPs fiancé) acted like the mothers behavior was totally normal is whats so scary about all that. Shes so deranged the rest of the family has been battered into submission
abusive people get their power from normalizing their BS to the point their victims will stick up for them. Sometimes is not even about submission but purely control. my grandma was like that, if you weren't beaten into submission (grandma was very violent) you were placed in a situation where you had no control.
Exactly! Clearly the GF was not like her mother or he'd have noticed. She clearly reverts back to a submissive role when around her abusive mother and can't see past it. Wish OP had seen this situation for what it really was and not just dipped over a dinner!
Except the 6 year old.......THE 6 YEAR OLD!!!!!!!!
Yep I was just coming to say this cus if they really thought she was right they would have been yelling with her (we’ve all seen entitled families on tic tok or in real life) but instead they all just sit there blank and don’t say a thing and just let her yell even the 6 year old don’t have a reaction to her yelling meaning even she’s used to it. They were broken down so much they think the entitlement is normal but for some reason don’t seem to act outwardly entitled themselves other then agreeing with the mom which is hella weird I’ve never seen that
*Story #1:* Yes ma’am Granny is a hero LMAO. OP’s GF’s family is UNHINGED, and the fact that OP and his pseudo-fiancé broke up due to the restaurant fiasco “Ellen” caused and once the red flags were exposed; OP not only acknowledged them he dodged a nuclear missile.
Yay Granny! Respect to the OGG
lol Ellen
I feel bad for that six year old girl in the first story. She's either going to be a garbage human being, or she's going to think she's garbage because of who her mother is 😢
She's gonna be a nightmare when she's a teenager.
@@cherishhighvibes4283 I’ve known normal people who are embarrassed of their family with mothers like that it’s not 100% they do more often turn out like their parents sadly but not all the time
Yep. I'm actually mad at the girlfriend. No warning, mo standing up for her man. Terrible.
Why is it that nightmare children like just mashed potatoes? Their teeth gonna be WOOOOONNK
The elderly lady stood her ground and I’m glad 😀, OP dodged a big bullit, I feel sorry for the little girl
Story 1: Hell no. OP dodged a major bullet!
Jup. I don't see how OP could say they "both" dodged a bullet. OFC this is only one issue in their relationship, but I doubt he's getting anywhere close to the low bar the girlfriend's setting (who thinks her mum's was behaving normally)
No that’s a nuclear weapon not just a bullet.
The first story is comedy gold 😂 I'm deading
Granny is definitely my hero
granny is my HERO!!!!😂😂😂
Last story OP, stay strong! Bide your time and you will come out the other side and wash your hands of that whole toxic family!
Lil Udon, you sound like an awesome cat parent and I hope you and your kitties are able to be somewhere safe and away from your toxic family. Hugs and purrs from me and my big floof ❤😽
Story 1: Grandma for the win, op doged a necula bomb
Last story: poor udon my cat means so much to me so i can only imagen the pain you went tough mentally, as a fellow autistic person i find my animals help me in some ways. Hope things get better for you soon and give yoour fur babies lots of cuddles that always helps me feel better. 54:44
I love thease daily episodes highlight of my day
I listen to OKOP daily while getting ready for work. I legit had to sit down because I was laughing too hard about the old lady knocking the mashed potatoes on the floor. 🤣😂🤣
Omg thank you 🥹🥹🥹
Tennis walker granny is the GOAT lol
What a wild story!
GRANNY IS MY HERO!! :)
1st Story: Man that dude is lucky to have gotten away from that family. I suspect the father wishes he could leave too. 😂 Last Story: So sorry you’re going through this. Maybe check some agencies like rehabilitation for the disabled or etc to see if you can get some assistance to move out sooner. Also, wouldn’t hurt to check places for abuse to see if they can assist with housing.
Yeah being rude to waitstaff for literally just doing their job is an immediate no for me. I’m surprised he stayed until they got kicked out. I would have walked out the second she pulled the tip bs. Unacceptable behavior
Having been a server for more than a decade, it’s common practice for families to order the childrens food first and often restaurants will ask/offer but the mom putting hers in as well while everyone else waits? Now that’s mean of her (as well as the rest of her entitled behavior).
I hope the last OP can get enough money together to get far far away from them and fast. No one deserves that kind of treatment. I’m so so sorry for you and your kitties, OP. ❤😢
It's cool that OP works at a non-profit. I work at an art nonprofit that specializes in glass art and classes. Just because someone works at a nonprofit, doesn't mean they don't get paid. It depends on the organization, but my work pays me $15/hr for part time work. We occasionally get volunteers but all staff including me get paid a set wage. That's a common misconception for nonprofits that workers don't get paid but we do.
You’re an incredible and dedicated cat parent Lil Udon! ♥️ Far better than your own parent, I wish you luck & success in fleeing her soon 🤍
I’m sorry the first story I wish someone would stand up to her it’s crazy . I would be so embarrassed she’s literally insane. Wow that 6yr old has more logic
Last Story: Oof, I know the feeling of not being able to move out of an abμ$ive home, save up, research some rentable apartments FAR from your family's place, get a decent enough job that can pay half the rent, and get ready to lawyer up because the "mom" might try some mess when you move out. Good luck to you and hope you succeed!
I really needed to hear the OP talk about freedom. I recently moved away from my home town and family a year ago and recently have been craving on going back mostly because it's what I know. But I feel a bit stronger to keep living my life the way I want.
Story # 1 Granny Is a hero!! That Mom sounds unhinged on so many levels. Who acts that way in public. That girls Mom sounds like a Karen on steroids.
Oh, if I was a waiter. I would absolutely take a $0 tip to prolong things as absolutely long as I can without looking like I am, just to mess with this lady $0 for a lifetime of enjoyment. I'll take 0.
the application story made me laugh, honestly. i'm the cute little receptionist at my job and i'm sure what ever miss paegent girl learned from her mama about customer service work ain't gonna fly at a real job, especially not nowadays lol. where i live, reception is a pretty hard job to get, especially since i work at a government office, i had to flex my 5 years of retail industry experience to get it.
It’s 15 minutes after getting engaged and my FIANCE and I still wanted to watch your video of the day❤
Congratulations!! 🎉🎉❤
Lil Udon I'm so sorry that your precious fur babies was poisoned. Stay strong and I hope you can move soon so you can have a happy place with your fur babies. Sending lots of love a fellow cat mom ❤
Story 3: Therapy is not necessarily the best option for all (a large part of my anxiety actually comes from a past therapist from childhood) but it comes down to a good support network whether from a professional or blood family or even chosen family
Story 3 was similar to what I had in the past. So glad to OP that she stood up to her folks in the end. The parents are bonkers in the end. I love the "end game" of the couple.
Last story, I C U!
I may not agree with Riley on him saying "if the mom acts like that, the daughter will act like that" but I can definitely see why you guys feel that way. These mothers are horrific and obviously don't understand how the real world works. Also, I love you guys podcast and your reactions. ❤
I think they meant it as a general statement since more often than not they sadly do
Thank you for the long episodes. They are great company!
Granny is my hero!😂❤
OP 2 should have a very confrontational talk about their concerns!
Bra, Granny is my Hero!
Lil Don't, you deserve so much better. Letting you stay there without paying rent is no excuse to be abused by her. Wherever you go, let the police know so they can update the address for the restraining order.
Story 2- her parents have serious issues and enable each other to live in an illogical world run by their own rules. It’s horrifying enough any parent would treat their grown offspring like they are still children or extensions of themselves, but this extent of manipulation and guilt tripping is inexcusable. OP’s parents may be beyond help after being in their own world for this long. All that can be done is accept that this may not be fixable and it’s not a victim’s responsibility to fix it. We can only control our own lives.
that last story really ripped me up
I have an insane grandmother, my fiance has an insane mother... its not hard for either of us to see the insanity of our families. No second chance. If she was put in an ultimatum between him and her mother, she'd probably have chosen her mother. My fiance openly told his mother if it really came down to it he'd choose me.
First story: 0P definitely dodged a bullet!
Not because of her mom’s behavior, but because of her own behavior of condoning her mother’s behavior and the inability to realize how wrong it was!
Love that I get a video ever day, love that I go to look for one for a shower and you posted one 15 min ago 💗💗 you guys make my morning every morning
I listen to this show in the shower as well lol hifive!
His comment about bringing potatoes to all the other tables around theirs was so funny. I can picture it now:
Waiter: here's your potatoes
Table: erm...we didn't order potatoes
Waiter: I know. Enjoy. On the house, I have a petty revenge to work through.
Table: visibly confused as the Waiter looks over that entitled mother and smiles as he walks away
Granny is a boss! Love that granny in story 1 hahaha
GRANNY IS MY HERO FORREAL😂😂😂
EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON
Thanks!
Edit:Lol somehow accidentally bought this but you can keep it 😂
Nonna? Is that you?! 😂
For the third story, I had to "break up" with my mom for a while because I had become too disabled to work and I wanted to go on disability while I figured out my options for a potential career.
My mom didn't like this. She thought that I just wanted to be lazy and take advantage of her, so then she kicked me out.
Then her friend's son died and my mom realized that she was wrong for being mad at me for my choices. Now we are talking again, she's proud of me for having my own apartment, and she's supportive of me.
You don't always have to agree with your kids' choices, but a good parent will try to understand and will be supportive anyway.
I can back up that therapy helps so much. And if a narcissist parent wants to fix the relationship, only do it if they're willing to do both individual therapy and family therapy.
I am so glad he got to see this first hand. He saw other things as he said at the end, realizing they weren't on the same page. This was the last straw for him ❤
and here i thought I'd seen it all but that first post took my breath away...
30:59 clearly her parents don’t love her!! They are crazy! If they lose their daughter it’s the parents fault.
These stories make me so grateful my MIL is a saint! 🙏
same here. my MIL is awesome but the FIL not so but they are divorced cos he is an alco, treats my wife like garbage thankfully he lives in another stare so we only see him once or twice a year
The heart rate part caught me off guard as someone with POTS cause i forgot other people have to be exercising for it to get that high 😂
Love these stories. Something about entitled people blows my mind. Gives perspective how people can be so differentx
Last story, that's how my parents were. I'm so happy to be no contact now.
When they said engaged to be engaged, they didn’t mean they were engaged because they want to be, as if others don’t want to be engaged lol. It was meant like, they’ve made a promise to be engaged, they aren’t engaged to be married yet, they’re engaged to be engaged because they haven’t had a formal proposal.
Granny is my HERO! 🦸🏼
Granny Is My Hero XD
S1 no, no chance because she's still attached to MIL and life wouldn't be liveable
S2 no, no it's the south and it's a customer facing job. "Well bless your heart! You must be so proud of your daughter." The sweetest of smiles
The last story ==== Sorry you have to deal with that till you can move out
Granny is my hero, unironically.
For the story of the woman whose parents hate her lawyer boyfriend: I think her parents were attempting a power play, thinking if they got their daughter to give in, then they could control her forever, probably getting money out of her eventually. They were attempting some long-term manipulation that would solidify control. That's why they had no logical reason for disliking him.
Story 3: It would seem that no matter what desirable qualities OP’s boyfriend has, OP’s parents are always going to find something pathetic to dislike him for. So he’s a lawyer, educated, kind, understanding, reliable, etc. But Lord forbid that he didn’t do the driving to the cabin instead of OP, wore a hoodie to keep warm at the cabin and when they travelled to boyfriend’s parents for OP’s introduction they didn’t call in to them, even though they had already called to introduce the boyfriend. Boyfriend could give all his money to charity, help at soup kitchens every day and take part in overseas aid and it still wouldn’t be enough for OP’s parents. She’s well rid of them.
My parents do not like my husband. Mainly because he is 21 years older than me, but there are personality issues at play as well. When he got sick and needed a lung transplant, they let us move in with them because at the end of the day, he is my husband and the father of their grandson.
Last Op, stay strong and hold on tight. Find people who you can truly lean on. It seems you also need some comfort from a professional therapist. Maybe you can't afford it right now, but it's the best gift you can give yourself, so my recommendation is to not forget about it and try to also save up for that purpose.
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"This was all a TEST!"
My hopes and dreams are to be that grandma! She’s boss level!!!!
Yooooo, the first story was insane. Wtf hahahhaha
The one with the parents that 'just don't like her boyfriend' really sounds like their nest is emptying out, and none of them are willing to admit their daughter is a grown ass adult. They won't have any other children that 'need' them, and they since they aren't the center of her attention anymore , and don't want to 'share'-- they resort to slander/threats/tears. It might have been able to be worked out with group therapy, but in this context? It's like a part of them 'needed' to push her away first rather than accepting the inevitable. It 'needs' to be 'her fault' somehow, so they save face. So sad.
Granny is My Hero!
Start a go-fund me for lil udon and the furrbabies!!
granny is my hero lol
The one with the parents cutting off the daughter is so heartbreaking. Mine nearly did the same, ironically driving me further into the hands of my abuser and now that I've left him they get "I told you so" rights.
(In a much better situation now dw)
GRANNY IS MY HEROOOOO❤❤❤❤❤
For the guy who says his mother allowed him to think that his cat had died or was missing depending on where he lives, whether it's in the US or internationally, there are services and even grants and sometimes housing for those with special needs. He should look into what's available in his area for people with autism. If he's in America then the Americans with disabilities organization is a good resource.
I have pots and my heart rate is up in 170 for no reason. I don't even need to stand. Its no joke when it's that high. Boys lucky he didn't pass out
Free Lil Udon ✊
Sooo is it because he wore a hoodie and the fact that she drove her car? And is a highly educated …. Nice person?
maybe the parents just want her to get with a macho type lumberjack or smtn, someone who´s uneducated and does physical labor because that´s more "manly". Idk it just shows they're sexist and delusional and she's better off away from them.
yes because 'educated' means they have manners..
My parents were like as well. When I was just interested in my now husband they asked if he was Christian and when I said “ya know, I never asked. I don’t think so” i knew it was gonna be a rough ride. They never treated him well, 4 years into our relationship he defended me when I had a panic attack in front of them and he was literally banned from not only their house but ALL family functions. My parents would fight with me all the time about him, tell me “it’s him or us, are you really going to choose him?” And I was like “are y’all? Gonna make me choose? For WHAT”. This went on for SIX YEARS. Then he proposed and ALL OF A SUDDEN the whole thing changed. My mom was over the moon ready to plan a wedding and begs us daily for her grandchildren. Once we got married he was allowed to family parties again 💀. I always feel bad because his parents always treated me like another daughter even before we were dating!
They never apologized or acknowledged any of it either it upsets me greatly. But my husband says if they wanna pretend it never happened then it’s fine with him we can play along, he’ll just never trust them for anything.
😂😂 Go Granny!
Story 1: God damn, OP, why didn't he walk out of this hot mess of a family and block the failure of a girlfriend's number?
The craziest part of the first story was the woman thinking the waiter was going to bend over backwards and kiss her feet over an $8 tip.
In the story with the Karen parents, I’m wondering if the boyfriend is a different raaaace? The fact that they said he wouldn’t “fit-in” with their family is a major red flag.
Okay, never mind. They are a narcissistic duo, and are upset they are losing their number one source of supply. They’re afraid that if she has a healthy relationship then they won’t be able to gaslight her anymore with the bare minimum that they have been doing in her life. And, that this relationship will solidify that they truly are the source of her anxiety etc.
My heart goes out to OP, she may have to gray rock them if not go full no contact.
Dude, I'm 5'6" 155lbs and docs say it's a healthy weight/bmi. That mom and daughter can go to hell. Not everyone has to be a stick to look beautiful.
If you are dining with someone who acts like that in a restaurant, and you don’t say anything, you’re also an asshole. I mean, barring very few scenarios (like your Grammy’s dementia or a domestic abuse situation), if you don’t speak up or remove yourself from the situation, you’re pretty much complicit in the assholery. I can not tell you how many tables I’ve had approach me during or after someone at their table has acted a fool, and quietly apologize to me for someone else’s behavior. Once, I had a lady stand up and throw her food at me before calling me and my coworkers horrendous names, because she didn’t like that the egg on the eggs Benedict was poached. That’s how it comes, and it says so on the menu. Not a single person at their table stopped her, or even made eye contact with me, as she continued on to tell me I should kill myself. It was a 12 top. As soon as they were done, all but one came up to me and meekly apologized. “We really don’t even know her that well, so we didn’t want to get involved.” Really? You didn’t want to get involved, while she threw food all over the tables around yours? Or when she told my manager that he was clearly retarded, and a charity hire? What would it have taken for you to say something??? What I ended up actually saying was, “I appreciate you saying so. If you ever find yourself in that scenario again, don’t be afraid to speak up. I have to respond professionally in those scenarios, but you don’t. And had she been mean to you, I could have kicked her out, because I can’t have someone verbally assaulting my other customers.” Honestly, I almost quit that day. Not because of her, but because the owners didn’t kick her out. I mean, the whole table stayed for 4 hours, and they were disruptive for at least 2 of them. I’m not a fighter, but I was so angry, I was shaking and fighting off adrenaline tears. When I have my own restaurant, I’m never tolerating that kind of behavior. Oh, and I’m actually gonna pay everyone too.
Yassssss granny go hard!!!!
First story: He couldn’t know how the fiancee would be as a mother in future so, no he wouldn’t know til it was too late
LFG OKOP FAM!
I don't understand parents who think they have any say in their child's life once they're adults. How can you tell your 20+yo who to date? Especially when there's no DV or anything involved. I've been no-contact with my parents and sisters for 9yrs+ & I have no regrets about it.
Seeing Big Protein in the TV cracks me up 😂
Unaccepted lawyer boyfriend-The parents met him one//two times??!!
She could have forced more time together first. Crazy.
The parents will come around if marriage & especially grandkids come ♥️
nah dude 💀💀💀those parents are insane idk if OP will ever talk to them agaim 🤷♂️
Since she knew that they don't want to see him, then I don't think forcing meetings would do anything good. For me it looks like they just didn't like to see her happy.
He was banned from the house and family functions for wearing a hoodie, those parents are nuts and the best thing that could happen is staying far away from them and especially if they have kids. Those kids will be subjecting to same treatment she was
Granny is my hero!! Lol first story 😅 gross. Entitled, selfish people like that give me the super ick.
The story of the parents not liking the boyfriend/lawyer, were rather possesive. They would've done the same thing with every boyfriend that she would've brought to meet them. She did what she had to do to leave that toxicity behind.
WOOHOO OKOP!!
I like the John & Riley shiw.
old people are savage af
can't wait till I'm old lol
"First of all... and B)...."
41:14 this is something my parents literally made my bf and I do
44:09 this is literally also something my father screamed at me about, maybe I ghost wrote this post???
(Although like he did physically discipline me as a child he just meant he at least MOSTLY stopped once I turned 14)
Those parents are irrational and it's about control. My mom has hurt her own feelings and created distance between us by creating narratives and treating them like reality
Granny is my hero! God i hope to be like her when im older and she sounds like both my dear grandmas who have sadly pass i miss them dearly! Also, im 4'9 and weigh 145lbs right now and i always weighed 110 until i was 32, im 34 now so, her height and weight is perfect! I bet shes a beautiful girl as well! Just because her daughter won a pageant doesnt mean shes a pretty girl inside or out, because a lot of girls and women who do the whole pageant thing, are usually seriosuly dolled up, heavy make up, hair, heck some of them even get plastic surgery done so early and can get disgnosed with EDs and other mental illnesses its rather sad so yeah. And the third story, if my parents ever said that to me without good and valid reasons, id go low contact or no contact because im an adult and her bf sounds like a smart, kind man. I get so tired of hearing about "traditional norms" and parents who care about money or status more than their childrens happiness its so disappointing and disgusting. Im so lucky and blessed for my parents and the life ive had and continue to have even though my mom has passed r.i.p momma i miss you! Love yall and this pod so much and the OK fam! ❤❤
25:15 exactly Riley! Cause you ARE pretty enough !! 🤣❤️ I be doing that awkward shifting to. People im close to absolutely hate it when I do it in public with them if someone is rude to me Lmao