JOHN: "HE SHOULD HAVE JUST ASKED" OP: NO MOVE IN THE SHADOWS !! op risked his wife deleting the only evidence and not being able to get everything lined up. She could have got spooked and ran with the kids. He made SMART calculated moves. MOVE IN THE SHADOWS !
This episode really needed a woman’s perspective. The husband was not overreacting at all. Consulting a lawyer and trying to logistically prepare himself for various outcomes was smart. It’s what anyone in a situation like this should do.
I think the biggest issue with not addressing her first. Is that if he did address her first, she would have time to go and delete any evidence. So I think waiting to address it, was probably the best decision in this particular case. If he had addressed it. It would give her the time to do all the cleaning, especially since they are overseas with children. The proof would be crucial in the event of a divorce and alimony.
I don't understand why these guys keep saying, "it's wrong to snoop on a cheater/ liar. Just ask them..." Liars are gonna lie. He already knew she was lying when he went home and she wasn't there. That was all the proof he needed before gathering evidence. It's an awful feeling to confront a liar and say "I know you are lying" and them come up with a convoluted story/ excuse they want you to believe. These people who are lied to need the piece of mind that they aren't the crazy ones.
He he confronted her, she would have destroyed the evidence and he could be stuck living with a lie. It's better for him to know the truth than to hear her side of it.
Agreed. I agree when they say that either way the relationship is over because trust is lost so you shouldn’t snoop just for fun, but at this point he is very justified to gather as much evidence as he can before she finds out he knows
They explain a lot in other episodes It’s more so - if you don’t trust your partner enough to snoop it means the relationship is over Whether he found something or not - imagine he did snoop and found nothing … as in she wasn’t cheating but is always gonna be paranoid and suspicious and that will end up in resentment Once communication breaks down so does a relationship.. that’s pretty straight forward If you can’t talk to your partner and have to snoops means the communication is gone period
Yeah I agree it’s definitely better he looked without her knowing. Best case is he’s wrong he doesn’t hurt her feelings and then he can talk to her about his insecurities. But worst case, I’d want to have all the evidence before I heard their side so I could know the truth. Plus, depending on divorce laws proof might be important to collect. And allows him to start planning the divorce without her being aware, don’t want her pulling money out of the accounts!
How y’all talk about a guy who was married for 11 years and got cheated on, mocking him and stuff. Kinda killed some respect. Dude is hurting and being methodical about insuring he can be a father to his kids and that’s an issue? Are you saying he should just abandon them? I don’t understand. I need Sam and Sophie!!! Lmao
I’m sorry but it’s *NOT* a big assumption to think wife isn’t using protection. If it wasn’t a common thing for people to have sex without protection, there wouldn’t be so many cases of women not knowing who their child’s father is. And OP mentioned that his wife has had sex with the affair partner at least 4times. Sometimes I feel like they only hear what they want and go from there lol
Yes I don’t even see how that is possible lmao (as a SAHM myself). I’m too focused on these little monsters 🤣 What you have at home is safe!!! ❤️ My family & my husband is my safe space. It’s ridiculous how fast people are to do things like that. Can’t comprehend it.
What she did was wrong on so many levels. Ruining an 11 year marriage? That’s wild. But the husband? Renters have more rights to housing than this wife did. Less than two days to get housing together? She was a SAHM for 8 years?? This is so wild on both sides to discount the service she provided
In the USA if one parent takes the child out of the country without the others permission it is considered kidnapping. My husband and I have been taking about getting our kids passports and have to do it in person and both parents must be present.
In America, you can't take them out of the STATE without permission. My ex kidnapped our daughters from their elementary school on my custodial day, and I didn't see them for over a month & I HAD TO REQUEST A HEARING WITH THE JUDGE. the DA wanted to press charges, but I didn't want my ex arrested in front of our little girls and it screwed me.
My ex kidnapped our daughters from their elementary school. I didn't see them for over a MONTH when I HAD TO REQUEST A HEARING in front of the judge. I should've had him arrested because it ended up screwing me in the end, but I didn't want to do that in front of our kids. The DA wanted to press charges and I should've listened to them.
I don't understand why you have such a hard stance against checking phones, They stablish in the beginning of the relationship they will have an Open Phone policy.
Anyone that's in a relationship and feels they might be getting betrayed, yes, you have the right to snoop because they're not going to tell you the truth.
John, I say this with love, please stop reading to respond and start reading for comprehension. Alot of what you say doesn't make sense because the OP never even says what you are saying they said. He is saying He is not going to stop the divorce just because she'll get kicked out. If she wants to stay in the country, she can get a job and stay on a work visa. He can't control her visa situation are they divorce
I am dubious about this story, it’s not fair to just hear his side. My ex husband was on tinder and having affairs or at least trying to, but has made everyone believe it was the other way around. He sounds vengeful and unhinged. I don’t believe he’s so innocent in this.
Because they were together for 11 years and one day she just decided to cheat? It feels like there could be something deeper there. Doesn’t mean there is, but there definitely could be.
Right I get it though they gotta ask questions but people cheat for all kinds of reasons. Attention from a new person seems to be a big one that I’ve seen happening a lot lately I feel like.
I think that he has something to hide that will come out during the divorce proceedings, he’s gone super hard straight out of the gate and jumping very fast to how he will have it 100% her fault and leave her destitute even though she may not have been ‘working’ but she has been raising their family.
Why are they against him getting an STI panel? Even if she has only cheated with one partner (which who knows if there was an affair before this) OP said he was an f boy which means she’s not the only one he’s involved with…
I don’t think that’s what they were saying necessarily. I think they were talking about the commenter who assumed she was cheating without protecting but you never really know right
Weirdly enough most people having affairs and such aren’t using protection. That’s why there’s so many affair babies. I’m sure people are using them but the reckless don’t care.
Why woukd she ruin 11 years of marriage? Simple, boredom. Cheaters dont need a reason to cheat. There doesnt have to be anything wrong, any unresolved mental/emotional issue ... they just do it cause they can and they want to. Which is why you NEVER get back with a cheater you cabt prevent it because theres no reason they're just terrible ppl there is no working it out or saving the relationship, its dead its gone. Let this be a lesson even in a PERFECT relationship a cheater will still cheat. Can a cheater change, can a cheater be trusted. Yes... but not by you, IF they change and go on to never cheat it will be with a new person. If its with you its the same pattern and patterns repeat.
Something about the way this man is writing this makes me feel like he is not as good of a person as he claims. Together they decided she would be a Stay at home mom leaving her with no assets and not a penny to her name because of that decision. I understand she cheated, but that still seems wrong to throw out of the street with nothing
And if this type divorce leaves her destitute and with no/little contact with the kids, that punishes the kids for the mom's failings and dad's lust for revenge
@@moniquedhooghe SERIOUSLY! I hate how confident he is to write on a reddit post how he could exploit loopholes in order to reduce how much she would get from the divorce. "Oh yeah, I can just transfer ownership of this, give gifts and loans to X" like seriously? your wife sucks for cheating, but you're just a trash male in general.
Hubby and I can see each other's phones whenever, but we've both got security locks (my face and pword when my phone doesn't like my face 😅, and his fingerprint). Those securities are for protection from others getting into our phones. I hand over mine whether I need to unlock it or not, and he does the same. I've needed to use his phone to look at an Amazon order while I'm on my phone with customer service and stuff like that. It's not a big deal.
It's so messed up that he would get screwed out of the kids if they divorced in a European country even though she's the one who was cheating. Btw, adultery is illegal is some places. For example, while adultery is not illegal in California, it IS ILLEGAL in Virginia. In my state, VA, adultery is a class 4 misdemeanor and is grounds for divorce if things have gotten physical. Though a class 4 misdemeanor is a minor offense, it's still illegal, punishable, and can add to the punishment of the unfaithful spouse in divorce. If your spouse is cheating, check the laws in your area and gather evidence so you can get maximum justice.
I am very sure this is some lonely man's fanfiction. :D In another update he says "AP was a copy of me when she met me. Cocky, direct and mysterious." lol what? Sure dude! If this is true, he is definitely an unreliable narrator.
Um. The wife pretending to look for things he asked for is not the same as just saying you're home when you're leaving a store and about to be home lol
37:05 Split personality. Medical term dissociative identity disorder (DID) and boarder -line personality disorder. DID is more serve is due to lack of memories you fully don’t remember. Another person is in your body doing things you don’t remember. Waking up in places you don’t know how you got there. Where borderline you remember it. But can’t help yourself you feel like a diffrent person/people is/are acting as you. Both there are tendencies of schizophrenia where you hear other people voices or diffrent audio hallucinations.
Omg… I just looked this up… the OP is very active and has 18 posts relating to the first post…. His latest post was 3days from today. (1 day after they posted this video) I wonder how okop is going to breakdown each ep
i feel like im in the damn twilight zone did they not have this entire story uploaded a few weeks ago???? and the guy she was cheating on her husband with was younger, he met up with the guy, the guy was like kinda on his side but an asshole, the wife started deteriorating, her oldest kis started hating her they had to go to therapy etc etc etc
At 54:00 I thought he was gonna bring in Sam’s rule regarding cheating vs the longevity of the relationship. What is it? Something after 4 years but stronger the more years on it. There would be a chance for 11yrs but my concern is her continued behavior. Not only that but she’s aware. Worse she’s having sex 4-5times a week and still not satisfied? Sounds emotionally disregulated. Sex won’t actually fix that, only in the moment. Too many flags on the play. Divorce.
The funny thing is it's not over! This guy is actively posting, last update was last week. The guys a loser, the wife was absolutely wrong for what she did but his actions are significantly worse.
About a white lie if you are home or not, you could just text: I'm home in 20 mins or something, so you are not lying about something stupid. Lying because you are lazy to type or say more than 3 sentences is a bit weird in my opinion.
How do you know the mothers native language is English? I doubt it is since he said they are both from countries in the EU and there aren't any countries with English as the native language in the EU. But it's a shame that the kids didn't grow up with 3 languages (those of their parents and the one of the Asian country). Kids learn so fast and effortless. Such a missed opportunity.
This dude is trash he clearly never cared about her at all. It's obvious with how malicious deceptive sneaky he's been. To leave her with nothing and legally rape her of her children is disgusting. He's not a real man he deserved to get cheated on.
JOHN: "HE SHOULD HAVE JUST ASKED"
OP: NO MOVE IN THE SHADOWS !!
op risked his wife deleting the only evidence and not being able to get everything lined up. She could have got spooked and ran with the kids. He made SMART calculated moves.
MOVE IN THE SHADOWS !
I assume you watch Charlotte Dobre… 😅
Moving in the shadows is always the best way to deal with most things. 🥔
I came here to say the same thing 😂@@HamzaShadidI just watched her wedding dress video 🥲
This episode really needed a woman’s perspective. The husband was not overreacting at all. Consulting a lawyer and trying to logistically prepare himself for various outcomes was smart. It’s what anyone in a situation like this should do.
I think the biggest issue with not addressing her first. Is that if he did address her first, she would have time to go and delete any evidence. So I think waiting to address it, was probably the best decision in this particular case. If he had addressed it. It would give her the time to do all the cleaning, especially since they are overseas with children. The proof would be crucial in the event of a divorce and alimony.
I don't understand why these guys keep saying, "it's wrong to snoop on a cheater/ liar. Just ask them..."
Liars are gonna lie. He already knew she was lying when he went home and she wasn't there. That was all the proof he needed before gathering evidence.
It's an awful feeling to confront a liar and say "I know you are lying" and them come up with a convoluted story/ excuse they want you to believe.
These people who are lied to need the piece of mind that they aren't the crazy ones.
He he confronted her, she would have destroyed the evidence and he could be stuck living with a lie. It's better for him to know the truth than to hear her side of it.
Agreed. I agree when they say that either way the relationship is over because trust is lost so you shouldn’t snoop just for fun, but at this point he is very justified to gather as much evidence as he can before she finds out he knows
Because they haven't been in these situations. It's easy to judge and tell people what to do and what not to do when you haven't been in their shoes.
They explain a lot in other episodes
It’s more so - if you don’t trust your partner enough to snoop it means the relationship is over
Whether he found something or not - imagine he did snoop and found nothing … as in she wasn’t cheating but is always gonna be paranoid and suspicious and that will end up in resentment
Once communication breaks down so does a relationship.. that’s pretty straight forward
If you can’t talk to your partner and have to snoops means the communication is gone period
Yeah I agree it’s definitely better he looked without her knowing. Best case is he’s wrong he doesn’t hurt her feelings and then he can talk to her about his insecurities. But worst case, I’d want to have all the evidence before I heard their side so I could know the truth. Plus, depending on divorce laws proof might be important to collect. And allows him to start planning the divorce without her being aware, don’t want her pulling money out of the accounts!
How y’all talk about a guy who was married for 11 years and got cheated on, mocking him and stuff. Kinda killed some respect. Dude is hurting and being methodical about insuring he can be a father to his kids and that’s an issue? Are you saying he should just abandon them? I don’t understand. I need Sam and Sophie!!! Lmao
I’m sorry but it’s *NOT* a big assumption to think wife isn’t using protection. If it wasn’t a common thing for people to have sex without protection, there wouldn’t be so many cases of women not knowing who their child’s father is.
And OP mentioned that his wife has had sex with the affair partner at least 4times. Sometimes I feel like they only hear what they want and go from there lol
I'd say he's justified to check her stuff at this point. She DOUBLED DOWN with a lie that she's at home, she's definitely very sus.
Cheating as a SAHM while your husband supports you is diabolical
I would give anything to have a supportive husband like that. Some people just don't know how good they have it. Grass isn't always greener.
Or just plain stupid
Yes I don’t even see how that is possible lmao (as a SAHM myself). I’m too focused on these little monsters 🤣 What you have at home is safe!!! ❤️ My family & my husband is my safe space. It’s ridiculous how fast people are to do things like that. Can’t comprehend it.
What she did was wrong on so many levels. Ruining an 11 year marriage? That’s wild. But the husband? Renters have more rights to housing than this wife did. Less than two days to get housing together? She was a SAHM for 8 years?? This is so wild on both sides to discount the service she provided
Damn ! I’m super invested, can’t wait for the next episode. Although I hope Riley doesn’t loose is sh*t with this series 😂
as a 22 yo we’re definitely not the skibby toliet generation, that’s my 15 yo brother
My 7yr old son loves it 🤦🤦
Yeah im 26 and no funny skibitytoilet😊
Nah I know people older than me (I’m 21) who love it, they exist
Can we get playlists of the multi part stories please?
In the USA if one parent takes the child out of the country without the others permission it is considered kidnapping. My husband and I have been taking about getting our kids passports and have to do it in person and both parents must be present.
In America, you can't take them out of the STATE without permission. My ex kidnapped our daughters from their elementary school on my custodial day, and I didn't see them for over a month & I HAD TO REQUEST A HEARING WITH THE JUDGE. the DA wanted to press charges, but I didn't want my ex arrested in front of our little girls and it screwed me.
My ex kidnapped our daughters from their elementary school. I didn't see them for over a MONTH when I HAD TO REQUEST A HEARING in front of the judge. I should've had him arrested because it ended up screwing me in the end, but I didn't want to do that in front of our kids. The DA wanted to press charges and I should've listened to them.
These multiple part series are THE BEST!!!!
"Not sure ill be updatingagain." , "Oh he will" 😂😂😂
I don't understand why you have such a hard stance against checking phones, They stablish in the beginning of the relationship they will have an Open Phone policy.
Anyone that's in a relationship and feels they might be getting betrayed, yes, you have the right to snoop because they're not going to tell you the truth.
If you got some real shit pointing towards unfaithfulness, sure, but if you are just a paranoid prick, that kinda stuff becomes abusive real fast
Lmao John dissappearing! 😂😂
I love the multi part series!!! Let’s go!!!
John, I say this with love, please stop reading to respond and start reading for comprehension. Alot of what you say doesn't make sense because the OP never even says what you are saying they said. He is saying He is not going to stop the divorce just because she'll get kicked out. If she wants to stay in the country, she can get a job and stay on a work visa. He can't control her visa situation are they divorce
This is an edited part of a larger stream, it might have been addressed there. They take out a lot of chat talking they have in the edits
I am dubious about this story, it’s not fair to just hear his side. My ex husband was on tinder and having affairs or at least trying to, but has made everyone believe it was the other way around. He sounds vengeful and unhinged. I don’t believe he’s so innocent in this.
Why it so hard to just accept that OP's wife is a liar who made bad choices? It is not as complicated as you guys are making it
Because they were together for 11 years and one day she just decided to cheat? It feels like there could be something deeper there. Doesn’t mean there is, but there definitely could be.
because every story has a beginning
Right I get it though they gotta ask questions but people cheat for all kinds of reasons. Attention from a new person seems to be a big one that I’ve seen happening a lot lately I feel like.
I think that he has something to hide that will come out during the divorce proceedings, he’s gone super hard straight out of the gate and jumping very fast to how he will have it 100% her fault and leave her destitute even though she may not have been ‘working’ but she has been raising their family.
Why are they against him getting an STI panel? Even if she has only cheated with one partner (which who knows if there was an affair before this) OP said he was an f boy which means she’s not the only one he’s involved with…
I don’t think that’s what they were saying necessarily. I think they were talking about the commenter who assumed she was cheating without protecting but you never really know right
She proved she didn't care about her family / children when she stepped out on her husband. Screw her.
Yep. Done. Over. Never look back. Run.
THE FACT I DIDN'T SEE THIS WAS A PART ONE 🫠
Weirdly enough most people having affairs and such aren’t using protection. That’s why there’s so many affair babies. I’m sure people are using them but the reckless don’t care.
For some people the the risk adds to the appeal... 🤢
Why woukd she ruin 11 years of marriage? Simple, boredom.
Cheaters dont need a reason to cheat. There doesnt have to be anything wrong, any unresolved mental/emotional issue ... they just do it cause they can and they want to. Which is why you NEVER get back with a cheater you cabt prevent it because theres no reason they're just terrible ppl there is no working it out or saving the relationship, its dead its gone. Let this be a lesson even in a PERFECT relationship a cheater will still cheat.
Can a cheater change, can a cheater be trusted. Yes... but not by you, IF they change and go on to never cheat it will be with a new person. If its with you its the same pattern and patterns repeat.
No I need more NOW
AMEN
Something about the way this man is writing this makes me feel like he is not as good of a person as he claims. Together they decided she would be a Stay at home mom leaving her with no assets and not a penny to her name because of that decision. I understand she cheated, but that still seems wrong to throw out of the street with nothing
And if this type divorce leaves her destitute and with no/little contact with the kids, that punishes the kids for the mom's failings and dad's lust for revenge
@@moniquedhooghe SERIOUSLY! I hate how confident he is to write on a reddit post how he could exploit loopholes in order to reduce how much she would get from the divorce. "Oh yeah, I can just transfer ownership of this, give gifts and loans to X" like seriously? your wife sucks for cheating, but you're just a trash male in general.
I need the rest of the story…
I need the second part!!!!!! 😭
The suspense killing me!
Hubby and I can see each other's phones whenever, but we've both got security locks (my face and pword when my phone doesn't like my face 😅, and his fingerprint). Those securities are for protection from others getting into our phones.
I hand over mine whether I need to unlock it or not, and he does the same.
I've needed to use his phone to look at an Amazon order while I'm on my phone with customer service and stuff like that.
It's not a big deal.
I like John reading
Another multi part series?! Let's goooo
It's so messed up that he would get screwed out of the kids if they divorced in a European country even though she's the one who was cheating.
Btw, adultery is illegal is some places. For example, while adultery is not illegal in California, it IS ILLEGAL in Virginia. In my state, VA, adultery is a class 4 misdemeanor and is grounds for divorce if things have gotten physical. Though a class 4 misdemeanor is a minor offense, it's still illegal, punishable, and can add to the punishment of the unfaithful spouse in divorce. If your spouse is cheating, check the laws in your area and gather evidence so you can get maximum justice.
I like the worm on the timebar!!!!❤😂
I am very sure this is some lonely man's fanfiction. :D In another update he says "AP was a copy of me when she met me. Cocky, direct and mysterious." lol what? Sure dude! If this is true, he is definitely an unreliable narrator.
Fr... calling yourself mysterious is just laughable
You all posted this story last week! I believe Riley read it.
So wheres the rest of the episodes?
I want to ask the wife why? Just why?
The bell in the beginning confuses my dog lol
Tracker on the car, cameras in the house, and prenup. That’s the answer.
Um. The wife pretending to look for things he asked for is not the same as just saying you're home when you're leaving a store and about to be home lol
Hey John the term you were looking for was an alter
Where do I part 2,3,4 & 5?
37:05 Split personality. Medical term dissociative identity disorder (DID) and boarder -line personality disorder. DID is more serve is due to lack of memories you fully don’t remember. Another person is in your body doing things you don’t remember. Waking up in places you don’t know how you got there. Where borderline you remember it. But can’t help yourself you feel like a diffrent person/people is/are acting as you. Both there are tendencies of schizophrenia where you hear other people voices or diffrent audio hallucinations.
I need the update NOEW
Omg… I just looked this up… the OP is very active and has 18 posts relating to the first post…. His latest post was 3days from today. (1 day after they posted this video) I wonder how okop is going to breakdown each ep
OP needs to get checked for STI's in addition to DNA testing.
Ik for a fact line is used in Japan
i feel like im in the damn twilight zone did they not have this entire story uploaded a few weeks ago???? and the guy she was cheating on her husband with was younger, he met up with the guy, the guy was like kinda on his side but an asshole, the wife started deteriorating, her oldest kis started hating her they had to go to therapy etc etc etc
Aaaaaaaahhhhh I hate finding things in real time.
I HATE cliffhangers 😅
At 54:00 I thought he was gonna bring in Sam’s rule regarding cheating vs the longevity of the relationship. What is it? Something after 4 years but stronger the more years on it. There would be a chance for 11yrs but my concern is her continued behavior. Not only that but she’s aware. Worse she’s having sex 4-5times a week and still not satisfied? Sounds emotionally disregulated. Sex won’t actually fix that, only in the moment. Too many flags on the play. Divorce.
The funny thing is it's not over! This guy is actively posting, last update was last week. The guys a loser, the wife was absolutely wrong for what she did but his actions are significantly worse.
Justified
23:00 🤣🚨🚨🚨
About a white lie if you are home or not, you could just text: I'm home in 20 mins or something, so you are not lying about something stupid. Lying because you are lazy to type or say more than 3 sentences is a bit weird in my opinion.
How do you know the mothers native language is English? I doubt it is since he said they are both from countries in the EU and there aren't any countries with English as the native language in the EU.
But it's a shame that the kids didn't grow up with 3 languages (those of their parents and the one of the Asian country). Kids learn so fast and effortless. Such a missed opportunity.
Ireland is in the EU
If they are using LINE they live in Japan then
Good news if you didn’t married in you country of Origen you are not married there I find out the hard way
I hate the parts ...
This dude is trash he clearly never cared about her at all. It's obvious with how malicious deceptive sneaky he's been. To leave her with nothing and legally rape her of her children is disgusting. He's not a real man he deserved to get cheated on.
I just must say that the hat is the best use of a IKEA bag I ever seen. 🫶