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Narrated D&D Story: What It's Like Playing With A Party Mom With Major Main Character Syndrome
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>pretend to fall asleep in-game
This is just crazy, outright insulting on so many levels
It is just rude and if someone did that in a game I'm dming I would just tell them to leave
Seems like she has control issues she really needs to deal with...
I've been a problem player at one point, my character Dejoria hired a party to fetch a sword (3.5) and did everything that she could to ensure the party not survive from setting traps to kill them to swapping wine for sand
Sorry guys
That's what a spray bottle is for. Pretend to fall asleep? Zapped in the face with a stream of water.
player: [pretends to fall asleep at the table]
DM: "You look in horror as your comrade falls to the ground, dead of a massive heart attack."
Make a DC34 Con save as you have a massive heart attack
_sees the DungeonFog ad and thinks "Oh man, ATD&D really stepped up their animations"_
lol I saw it and I was like "Im gonna lose me job!"
@@cjdd8184 We won't let you escape, ever
I have to admit, it's my favorite commercial I've seen in a while
Fall asleep at my table, ok life happens and people fall asleep. PRETEND to sleep at my table because something didn't go your way, you will never be invited back.
Pretend to sleep at the table because your character is unconscious, you're Liam O'Brien approved!
@@stuarthutzler6670 ok ya I'll give you that one, I'd probably give the player inspiration for that.
There was a proficiency to pretend to be asleep that could also be used to see if someone was feigning sleep in one of the older editions. Perhaps she was really in character?
I have nodded off at a game I had hardly any sleep and that part was kinda boring the dm had us digging through rubble for 45 minutes real time :(
@@davidmorgan6951 like I said, life happens so you'd still be welcome back.
It's ok Gary we all been there the effort is appreciated
Gary is a highly relatable villain 😂
I have played with a team mom before but it was one of the funniest parts of playing
Mo-ma the half elf cleric whose buffs are kisses on the forehead, dispelling debuffs were her whiping smudge off our cheek, her holy item is the macaroni necklace our druid made in second grade even though he was 10x her age never went to school and just generally left screaming in confusion
And finally would always tuck our gloom stalker into bed at night
As much as i love the sound of this but its just too cute to be real
I love that she was at least trying to be helpful and/or learn about it. Some just don't understand or did a really bad job.
Played in a game like that. The player with main character Syndrome played an Enchantment Wizard and the DM treated Enchantment magic as full on mind control. If the party (my human Fighter, an Elf Druid, and a Human Rogue) did anything that the Enchantment Wizard disagreed with, our actions got controlled through a combination of Charm Person, Suggestion, or Hold Person. We asked the DM to intervene, and they said no. We decided to give it one more session, and that session ended the game. We entered a dungeon, and the Enchantment Wizard used Suggestion to prevent the Rogue from looking for traps. The Wizard then used Suggestion to have my Fighter walk straight down a dungeon corridor and the DM ruled that i couldn't look for traps due to how the Suggestion was worded. My Fighter gets dropped by traps and the Wizard uses Suggestion to prevent the Druid from healing my Fighter, who promptly bled out. We ask the DM to intervene, they don't. The player of the Enchantment Wizard said, "This is fun." And at this point myself, Druid, and Rogue all quit the game.
🤯
That player sounds like a power-hungry bitch
Yeah the only time I have ever had a dm allow suggestion to be cast on a fellow player is 1) the player it was to be cast on gave permission, and 2) It was to get them, who were in an otherwise uncontrollable state to return to safety and not get trapped behind a portal to another plane. In other words, we did it to get them to safety since the mechanic that had driven their character mad made it far too dangerous to otherwise remove them from the danger. And, as said, that player consented.
My condolences on your dm though. You deserved better for sure. Enchantment spells can be fun and funny and all, but one should really be careful how they are used and never use them on a party member without their explicit permission. My own experience is probably the only example where I would not mind it being cast on a fellow pc or even my own characters.
I wish you many better games and much nat 20’s
Booted her at the note taking part.
I have an opposite story, of how I drove my brother nuts.
It was my first time playing DND, at the ripe old age of 11. My brother, who's about 20 years older than me, missed playing DND, and seeing as we lived on a farm in the middle of nowhere without internet, he decided to run a campaign for just me.
Problem is, I didn't treat it like a story I was the hero of, and instead, was more of a time travler interested in getting to know absolutly everyone and everything.
So I'd get sent on daring missions, to warn the town of oncoming raiding parties, and gather force to drive off invaders, and instead I'd get distracted because my elf wanted to know the complete family history of the first house I came to.
Is there a shop? Better be prepared with what the clerks kids did in school today. Are kids playing in the street? I'm going to need all their names, and to go home with them for dinner.
He threw me in with a group of soldiers to get things moving, and found himmself fighting all the enemys himself, while I cheered everyone on from the side lines.
Ah yes SCS (side character syndrome)
I had a player who tried to sleep with ANY NPC I made- it got to the point of irritation so I told them of a risqué bar where many ladies of the night live. Each lady was cursed (I said it once and never again) with multiple really bad things- like...necrotic touch (this is a homebrew and this will come up soon).
So the party discusses and weren't really into it and said they'd go to a different place to get information.
The one player threw in that 'I can talk to them while you guys rest. I have my ways to get information'.
So the group decided (rather they remembered the curses and mentioned it and decided the player was going to do what they want) that it was OK so they let him go out.
After 'preparation' - getting nice clothing on, some smelly stuff he swore always worked (yes, he wrote it on his character sheet as his item he never parted with) he set off to the shady bar.
Ignoring the party (and my 1 warning) he decided to choose one of the ladies for 'some fun'. I made him roll a will save prior to set up the events that transpired after, I told him why and he rolled ignoring what I said. He failed.
When he was done (I never go into detail with the actions) having fun I had him roll to see what he got for a curse.
He acted like he was tricked but all other party members had even written it down knowing that he would do this- after a bit of sulking and begging without avail, he rolled and he got the lady with the curse Necrotic touch (in his character's nether region) and his character needed to get an elixir to save his 'mighty sword' (his words not mine).
After paying a good amount of gold he was able to save 'it' and from then on he would always be picky on who he went for- and ask 'is she cursed?!'.
Not all team moms are bad. I ended up playing one. I was playing a female elf witch hex chaneler archtype. DM went with rule of cool and I was loosly basing my PC on Repunzel from Tangled. My husband who was in the campaign played a Flynn Rider esque rogue. Quite a few players had real life issues including the guy whose character the plot was centered around. (But that's a story for another time) My PC was the party healer, had a +1 frying pan which was enchanted to season food to taste and 1 rank in profession chef. Also among all her gear in her handy haversack was a camp set. So she kept the party healed and fed. She always focused on the tactical situation during combat. Did what was needed to keep her and her party alive. Had a "No one is dying or getting left behind on my watch" After the guy playing our empoyer ghosted, the DM scrabled to salvage the story and find a way for our party to get off the island that we had been stranded on. People started looking to my PC for leadership. We had a party of 4 PCs and 1 DMPC and for one reason or another mostly having to do with the way they had writen their charater's personality no one wanted to take up the leadership position. Getting tactical input from some of them was like pulling teeth! There was no lack of role play. They would exchange witty banter in and out of combat all the time. With each other or the enemy. When it came to friendly NPCs .... um guys help?
That sounds familiar. I'm frequently the team mom for my groups, especially one group that is at least 50% newbies, and just needed someone willing to step up and be the one who said "okay, here's the plan." I'm quick to let a Charisma-based character take the reins when talking, though; I know that in-character even if my PC is the one stepping up to take charge of herding the cats, she's still a high-INT/low-WIS character, and we established early on that she's good at foot-in-mouth. It's a good balance for us, as I can help the group be tactical or take the first steps in grabbing a plot-hook, and still let the other party members have a blast roleplaying in places where my character has no reason to be the one taking the diplomatic lead.
@@MokiefraggleI got really lucky on Baeluril's stats. I had high Int, Chra and an decent wisdom. With a high dex adverage con and low str she was weak and frail
@@NessaEllenesse Yeah, my Swordmage is deliberately low-WIS/low-CHA, since we use standard arrays for our stats. Plus, the DM pre-genned the PCs for the initial group and made sure all of them had average-to-low CHA, so we wouldn't be able to just bluff/diplomacy/intimidate to get out of situations, but would therefore need to find more clever solutions. It's a weird Dark Souls/The Witcher/Monster Hunter-ish mash-up, where we're all members of a Hunters' Guild, tasked with hunting down dangerous monsters for a nominal fee, and much like Witchers, the normal folk are of course a little off-put by Hunters for their having powers that the average person sees as strange and fearsome. Later on, as other people joined the game to replace a player we lost, we got a couple of PCs with higher CHA, but by that point even our newest newbies had gotten used to finding creative other ways of solving things that would normally just be a Charisma skill in any other game.
Oh dear... I don't want to imagine how I would grow that party member.
I feel asleep during game once or twice and I still feel bad about it but in my defense I think one game it was around 3 AM and the other midnight so I doubt I'm that bad
Actually falling asleep, especially because it might be late for you, is one thing. Pretending to or getting bored because things aren't going your way is a different can of worms.
It happens, especially when the game runs late. We did all the accounting at the end, experience, gold, treasure, and whatnot, so if some fell asleep, that was fine because it was pretty boring.
What she did was attention seeking behaviour which is inexcusable.
My husband is the reason I ban phones at my table. Otherwise face is behind his screen unless its his turn at combat. I constantly having to catch him up on what happened when it wasn't his turn, like his character taking damage. His excuse is DND tools.
That can happen to anybody (I've done it more times that I'd care to count >_>), so I can't imagine the group would really hold it against you, especially if you had good reasons for it happening. This person, however, was faking it to get the center of attention once more placed squarely on her, and that's rude to *everybody* in that group. Totally different set of circumstances.
This isn't the revenge of Grunkalina, is it?
Just what I came to ask.
It may be
when she asked for the notes, I would have refused. But I've been burned before
Honestly that ad at the start killed me XD
MCS is a horrible disease that can effect even politicians. Was she planning on DMing? I would say the DM should hold on to the notes if not the individual players.
I wonder how many of these folks would get the quote, "Alright Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close up!" All the worlds a stage- and they're the only star.....
Want to bet she is one of those players that think table tops are like video games? She got mad when the wizard showed up and got the others involved, like a older sibling getting mad at sharing their video games to their younger siblings
I played a dragonborn bard who ended up being a party mom, but it was more of the nurturing and caring party member who buys all the potions, and other items the party needed. I literally was the one naking sure the party didn't go crazy.
The bard died in a tpk when our warlock threw a fireball into a room of treants. The trees killed me.
I once fell asleep at our table, after a very long shift at the supermarket breaking down deliveries and handling the Disposals (recording and getting rid of Rotten food so we can adjust our orders accordingly).
We were investigating a ruin and were posed a riddle with a picture of 2 Elven men standing face to face, wearing identical armour and weapons.
I cant remember the contents of the riddle but it revolved around sharing a Mother, a Father, the same day of birth, but not being twins...
after about 45mins of sleep (during which the party were still tryng to solve the puzzle or find an alternate exit) I suddenly woke up and blurted out "Triplets"
The DM laughed, described the wall parting and the image of a Third Elf over a Doorway appeared.
No idea what was going through my head though, to be honest.
Damn it Gary!
Yeah, I would have talked to this person out of game and let them know their behavior is unacceptable and they can stay, but only if they agree to stop the BS. Otherwise, I'll have to kick her from the group.
Ok but that sponser was pretty pog
i'm just confused on how she is able to be both so into the game that things that happen to her character personally effect her and so bored that she pretends to fall a sleep.
The game is only about her and when it's not, that is when she acts out.
She wasn't *bored,* so much as being a spoiled, petty brat the moment she wasn't the center of attention and able to bully everyone else into letting her take total control of what the party did. That's where the pretending to fall asleep came in; she was trying to spite the DM and other players.
Anyone else though she was flipping the bird?
The animation intro was awesome but the story itself...not so great; maybe because I'm burned out on horror stories? Dunno.
Agreed. So many stories of poopy people. I enjoy these to forget about the poopy parts of life and enjoy some funny or hella cool stories, not reminders of the former.
Tbh I wanted this channel to be more than just dnd horror stories so I agree with you. It seems every other YT dnd channel does it so I only occasionally watch the vids here now. I wish they'd expand their stories or do other segments, but ah well. Content is content.
@@hitsugatatsuro9978 I think personally it's lack of content (as in good stories) that kind of forces them to do horror stories
@@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 Uhm, we actually like to just do all kind of stories, but will try to cover more positive stories
@@allthingsdnd huh, well ok
that animation was amazing
I just saw an ad on another video and omg I didn't know you were in an advertisement for Mens Health. Hearing your voice talking about balding really threw me for a loop. Lol
That's a simple enough problem and solution...
Step one, have "the talk" with the problem Player... Explain that she is NOT the only one involved in the Game, that her PC is NOT the only STAR of the show, and she can just learn to get over herself and relax when other people step in for some spotlight...
Step two is giving her the space to absorb the critique, have her temper tantrum or whatever... and avoid shrapnel... The re-approach the Player with the understanding that if she wishes to continue, it's all well and good, and we can ALL forgive... It's easy (especially early on) to get over excited... whatever...
BUT if the antics like this are pursued... Step three... Show her the door. The other problem Player, too... Not partaking in the Game and Collaborative Story improvisation is just as bad as tyrannizing the thing... ;o)
I have never been this early ever.
Collecting notes?? She’s not even the DM! Its a clear sign of her wanting to meta game at BEST! If not must eavesdrop on the other players lives YIRBEL LIVES!
tbh I'd probably have had my own notebook already and I'd have been like 'oh no thanks, I already have my own' and if she tried to force hers on me, I would have just left it blank and to the side
cause I wouldn't have felt comfortable with another player handing me out a notebook anyway
@@iva_pk I mean, it's a nice thing to offer...until she went all teacher/mom on them and insisted on collecting them. I've known people in my game groups who would've benefited from having a notebook for a variety of reasons, but didn't think to bring one, and I often wish I'd brought a spare.
Then again, I'm a weirdo who likes to have notebooks all over the place for all kinds of things, so that might just be me.
In my current campaign my orc barbarian is, at the moment, the strongest character, and a common joke at the table is that he is the main character and since those jokes started I have been trying to move into the background so that the others can shine even brighter. I hope it's working, but I'm worried because during the last session at the final fight of the night my die kept rolling off the table and when it finally sticked there it crited, causing max damage and killing the mini boss, and I don't want them to think I was cheating just to keep that image of being a "main character". Playing via a call just does not allow my party to see that it wasn't intentional.
Let is know when Gary has the next level of the dungeon ready. Great job, guys!
This could be me... I like to have parts of the game about a certain character whether it’s backstory stuff or character development. Having some attention is nice as well as a really push for the character. I talk from a player and as a seasoned dm.
Thankfully my players(with the exception to follow), don't have to worry about these kind of toxic players. I run a homebrew open world with numerous playable regions. I tell everyone who enters that my world is rated R for Realistic. Actions have consequences, quests are there with deep secrets to be discovered but you can also explore. I do not, however, tolerate players who want to try and control, coerce, or intimidate my other players(many of which are friends. I don't pick favorites, I pick story and what I think will make it better. The few times I have had players who wanted to be difficult, I turn the world on them using their characters actions as a basis. Example: I had a player play a barbarian from the Great Plains of my world(think similar to the Dothraki of Game of Thrones). Then he decided he wanted the character to be an exile(that works), but it was exile due to a love obsessed chieftain's daughter who had been found with him and he had "supposedly" not slept with her even though the tribe thought he did.(edgy but workable) over the course of the character's few sessions he kept trying to spotlight himself while I planned ahead for his "consequences". He had managed to literally screw several of the female elven soldier at a fort he helped to defend (which is understandable but egotistical). He then was sent to help the elf capital of Bosnost but he had to help recruit troops using his spreading game to bring to the capital to break a seige. Along the way he would encounter various elves who either joined by choice or were forcefully conscripted. Then he hit the trap. In the forest there are many large carnivorous plants that the elves know about and manage by using druids and rangers. This player had neither with him and didn't feel the need to talk with "his" troops. So, when he saw a hillock with dead foliage around it that looked like a vantage point, he climbed on top of it. Then the trap clicked. He had climbed on top of a Tendriculous and there was also a Red Sundew on the opposite side of the road. The plant creatures had been ambushing the unwary and he walked right into them. So you understand, a Tendriculous can only be killed using fire or bludgeoning damage as they possess powerful regeneration abilities that make all other damage types non-lethal. A Red Sundew is immune to both acid and fire as it is coated in flame retardent acidic sludge. Both creature move slow and can't chase prey so the lay completely still to allow prey to mistake them for hillocks. A single Tendriculous can wipe a lvl 7 party if not prepared. A Red Sundew is a match for a lvl 13 party. Together, they were absolute death to this player who was too stubborn to give up the spotlight as a "hero". The only ones to survive that encounter were the players not present for the session (they were warned in private) and the NPC's smart enough to run away before they lost the chance. Btw, the player insisted his character name be Ron Fricken Burgundy (you know The Anchorman) or Ron for short... For history's sake I only even wrote him down as Ron but noted his real name was Eagle Wind(a tribal name of my choosing so as to keep continuity when the players meet his tribe.) The player never played again but I didn't want him too and neither did anyone else. Getting torn in two by two large carnivorous plants can be gruesome but he earned it for his arrogance.(side note: I did suggest running through an NPC as a test of humility for him but he refused giving an impassioned speech about heroism right before is drawn out death.)
UUUUGH. I have a player like this! He stays on his phone the entire session. He is only ever interested when the story is revolving around his character. Then he derails the party every time he decides to talk... Because most of the time, it's about something completely off subject. Im new, I am very new... But i still put a lot of effort into the story. It gets discouraging..
I actually use dungeonfog, my maps aren't the best but its an AMAZING program and the moderators are helpful. MrBluff
"There is no such thing as a main character."
Haha, tell that to some groups I've been in where the players are all so indecisive that I wind up as the de-facto party leader simply because I want to play the damn game instead of analyzing the situation for years. lol
And it's not just me being a blind "That Guy" who steamrolls everyone else and pretends it's their fault. I love being a support role, and other groups I'm part of, I can just sink into the background pretty easily. But damn are furries indecisive.
People in general can be indecisive so, no surprise there.
@@hitsugatatsuro9978 Yup, for sure. I'm just rippin' on furries in this case because that's the current group that's like that and because I am one, so it's a small bit of irony. :)
That is party leader, not main character.
@@Michael-fd1gx Fair I guess, but because I'm the one who winds up making decisions, the GMs start to subconsciously start to focus things around my characters.
Bro that opening sequence is epic.
I always have to pay attention to not do stuff like that. I do sometimes notice that I kind of suffocate everyone around me with my presence and subconsciously manipulate them, pushing through my ideas while nipping others in the bud.
Me not always being able to control that is one of the reasons why I dislike group activities.
I would have talked to her if I were the dm and If it were a player I would certainly ask the dm to reach out and explain that we were having problems with her behavior
I've actually fallen asleep on accident because I didn't have enough sleep the night before
We have a narcoleptic player, but most of us just took it in stride. To pretend to fall asleep though, super rude. I admittedly end up being "party mom" and "leader" most games, but that was because the guys all got off task really easy and even when I purposely made a support character I seemed to get pushed to the lead.
in one group I was in the dm basically had 1 character talk with omnipotent gods and play games with this entity and basically took us from lvl 4 to lvl 14 then a lvl latter the same character talked to the same entity and made us all lvl 20 gods as all of the old gods were just deleted from existance . . .
Can you explain D&D to me? I played like twice with a bunch of guys from work. Chose rogue and did roguey stuff.
Followed the rules and made people laugh with antics, etc, but I just can't see how this game can last for more than a single session? Doesn't it get old fast?
I think it can be very difficult to come by the free time that goes into making a great experience for everyone involved in a session, and it can't be risked to accommodate anyone that insists on being the bride at every wedding and the corpse at every funeral.
1 of the mistakes here was not taking your own notes independently. Especially the DM who should have kept notes for himself instead of writing it in Nicole’s notepads or relying on players.
a good main character syndrome character is a self aware one who is like aubrey from wandersong in my opinion atleast
if she collected the notes that I wrote down, they were most likely things my character would want to remember anyway so I wouldn't give her the ones I'd written on because she seems like someone that would metagame stuff about what my character thought and hold it against them in character for it. So any notes you take down you probably shouldn't have given back, unless she was the DM which in this case she wasn't.
WOW! An in party counter-spell!
So is this a second Grunkalina?
Why is this a horror story channel now? I remember awesome stories like Ashtoshan the Necromancer and Olivia the black Dragon.
Can you please update your spotify i was following you there and it wasn't updated in a while
I listen to you while i work and when i move from place to place
Spotlight hogging, understandable. Everything else, disgusting 😔
I am currently playing a bard, and I often have to be careful how much Spotlight I take during role-playing elements. I don't want to ruin anybody's fun so I always try to step back a little sometimes. Unfortunately my character is a very Charming friendly talkative person so
@@Paladinjon11 if you're aware of it you're probably nailing it 👍
Hi. I wanted to use the code they gave you, but it says it could not be found. I tell you because some companies get free promo and give you the code, only for it not to work. I doubt it would have expired already given you posted only yesterday.
So why did the dm let her split the party solely to woo the noble
Video starts at 1:30
Grunkalina 2.0
How did she know plot relevant information that nobody else knew ? So confused at to what events led up to this being possible
neat
hehe math rocks make the clickity noises
Whats going on!
My friends mom and sister wanna DM the game I'm about to play
*You kick these people out of the group or leave these groups .*
*These are the only two options after talking with the problem player .*
" this'll be a long one "
Me looking at the 7min video: Hmmm sounds fake but ok.
The idea of D&D having a main character....
I have to say, I hate when players show up, even for one-shots with no backstory. Essentially, you want a joystick and a set of stats to beat things with. I mean, the DM has so much to have to deal with and then build your character too. Come on, man.
Players, please, give us guys behind the screen a break and something to work with. If you can roll numbers and crunch math to build your character, take five minutes to make a backstory. Please.
First!
Aren't all the players the main characters? I get that it's wrong for one person to hog the spotlight, but the team and DM are (or should be?) the main characters in the story, right? Otherwise, what's the point?
Second
Why in the hells is someone enduring this over a few sessions? In former days there where much less roleplaying groups and there might be a reason to stick with such a person because of this. But nowadays there are so much groups and people who like to play.
There may be a lot of people who like to play but still a lack of DMs.
It's hard to get rid of a friend who is a problem player, and these kids all live in the same dorm and seem to be in the same friend group.
why do people put up with these kinds of people for so long
15th!
That's not very mom-like.
Bro more stories about the actual game and less about shitty persons
Sorry, but wtf was wrong with her to be that awful?
I've watched a few of your vids and it frequently sounds like you keep hooking up with immature snowflake types. Is real DnD like that now?.
The only problem player I've had was this one guy, and he very much had main character syndrome. In my campaign setting, a post-apocalyptic magi-tech fantasy world with giant robots, he made a warlock who's father was some elder fae, despite the fact i said the fae, abyss, and infernal dimensions don't exist. The fault there lies with me, but he so badly wanted his character to be the main, he picked a fight with our dragonborn paladin. Two hits later the warlock is tied up and being carried around like extra baggage.