I run my Recycling RO to 130 TDS and PH 7.3 and keep it there😊👍 My trickle in only runs at 30ml per minute to simply replace the 1.8 litres per hour used to clean the drum filter😊👍
I’m in East Anglia and have run RO for nearly 3 years from 2016 to 2019. I didn’t see any great change in the growth rates etc. I prefer to run large Bakki showers, plenty of flow and stock koi with great growth genes such as Dainichi and Marusei, and feed high quality food
Interesting thoughts on RO... Not the be all and end all by any means, but another tool for a specific use. 👍 There is a big difference between straight RO addition, and Recycle RO though. Not least the water saving potential of a system recycling pond water and reducing dechlorinated water addition, by a factor of 4 times or more. And it is especially useful where your source water is either very hard, very bad, or both. by diluted addition, and concentrated contaminant removal. One of the reasons I like using recycle RO is it's ability to concentrate and remove nitrates, metals, and 99% of most other contaminants from the pond water. 🙂
As our source water gets worse and worse just look at the sewerage that gets pumped straight in to Rivers ro will certainly be important for skin quality and lustre I remember seeing something with Andy Finch of finch filtration saying people saw less parasite issues aswell be interesting to see him interviewed on here
Very one sided, wanted to hear more from Frank who is odviously an RO advocate, so his views would have been of great interest, poor fella couldn't get a word in 😂
As you noted RO is only one of many many factors in maintaining proper water quality for koi. While use of RO may help for some koi keepers it may be no use at all to others. I've been keeping koi for 50+ years and never used RO and although not champion quality my koi are happy and healthy with some, purchased as nisai, now 23 years old.
So far the only ways I've seen a fish getting big has been a combination of the following things. 1 - genetics 2 - constant feeding 3 - warm / good water throughout winter Throughout the koi hobby, too many people make claims from anecdotal observations with a super small sample size. Yet they will generalize it and assume it's correct. There's no way to determine certain outcomes unless there's a systematic way of testing on a large scale with a large size sample. For example, within a spawn, even with the best possible parents, only a very small portion comes out as good or better as their parents. Not all 100cm+ parents will produce even 10% of spawns that can reach that size. People need to understand the concept of regression to the norm. For koi, that's leaning towards the middle and any/all extremes are just that, extremes, and rare.
Question for Ricky - in your videos you advocate the great growth and keeping it simple. RO is far from simple, in my experience. Would you run RO on all your tanks at Koi Wholesale ?
You’ve got it Geoff, I wasn’t advocating it and would never run it on the scale I’m operating on. Recycled RO is quite an interesting concept however with the water quality problems that exist.
Interesting subject 👍
Shame the video didn't live up to the title and description 😢
Glad you liked it
I run my Recycling RO to 130 TDS and PH 7.3 and keep it there😊👍
My trickle in only runs at 30ml per minute to simply replace the 1.8 litres per hour used to clean the drum filter😊👍
Thanks for sharing
I’m in East Anglia and have run RO for nearly 3 years from 2016 to 2019. I didn’t see any great change in the growth rates etc. I prefer to run large Bakki showers, plenty of flow and stock koi with great growth genes such as Dainichi and Marusei, and feed high quality food
I’m with you on that one Geoff.
Just move to South wales guys thats the easy solution 👌
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Interesting thoughts on RO... Not the be all and end all by any means, but another tool for a specific use. 👍
There is a big difference between straight RO addition, and Recycle RO though.
Not least the water saving potential of a system recycling pond water and reducing dechlorinated water addition, by a factor of 4 times or more.
And it is especially useful where your source water is either very hard, very bad, or both. by diluted addition, and concentrated contaminant removal.
One of the reasons I like using recycle RO is it's ability to concentrate and remove nitrates, metals, and 99% of most other contaminants from the pond water. 🙂
It’s certainly each to their own. Personally there’s just other areas I like to focus on and prioritise.
As our source water gets worse and worse just look at the sewerage that gets pumped straight in to Rivers ro will certainly be important for skin quality and lustre I remember seeing something with Andy Finch of finch filtration saying people saw less parasite issues aswell be interesting to see him interviewed on here
You’ll probably see Andy soon enough but over on the Koi Talk channel.
Very one sided, wanted to hear more from Frank who is odviously an RO advocate, so his views would have been of great interest, poor fella couldn't get a word in 😂
You can see the full episode in one of our earlier editions of Q&A live.
As you noted RO is only one of many many factors in maintaining proper water quality for koi. While use of RO may help for some koi keepers it may be no use at all to others. I've been keeping koi for 50+ years and never used RO and although not champion quality my koi are happy and healthy with some, purchased as nisai, now 23 years old.
Absolutely not essential just one option out there depending on the level of work a koi keeper wants.
I run 120 TDS and PH 6.9 and keep it there.
If it works for you buddy 👍
So far the only ways I've seen a fish getting big has been a combination of the following things.
1 - genetics
2 - constant feeding
3 - warm / good water throughout winter
Throughout the koi hobby, too many people make claims from anecdotal observations with a super small sample size. Yet they will generalize it and assume it's correct. There's no way to determine certain outcomes unless there's a systematic way of testing on a large scale with a large size sample.
For example, within a spawn, even with the best possible parents, only a very small portion comes out as good or better as their parents. Not all 100cm+ parents will produce even 10% of spawns that can reach that size. People need to understand the concept of regression to the norm. For koi, that's leaning towards the middle and any/all extremes are just that, extremes, and rare.
Nicely put .👍
Agreed, very well said!
Question for Ricky - in your videos you advocate the great growth and keeping it simple. RO is far from simple, in my experience. Would you run RO on all your tanks at Koi Wholesale ?
You’ve got it Geoff, I wasn’t advocating it and would never run it on the scale I’m operating on. Recycled RO is quite an interesting concept however with the water quality problems that exist.