Water regulations could destroy family farms in Idaho
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- East Idaho farmer Brian Murdock details the water restrictions that he and other farmers are facing on ‘The Bottom Line.’
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Democrat or Republican there is no wonder why people hate our government -- this action is reprehensible
Yeah, these rhino Republicans are just Democrats in disguise!
Democrat or Democrat, no Republicans were involved.
This fight is mostly Farmers against farmers. Those who have senior rights. If you understand the whole issue you would not want politicians to get involved until the people have their say in resolving the problem. Do you want the government to resolve their issue?
@@AlanBaum WTF are You Talking About??? Food is FOOD for EVERYONE!!! For ANY ETHICAL Farmer to do this is a DISGRACE before GOD!!!! How the HELL is THIS supposed to be GOOD on ANY LEVEL??? GTFOH IDIOT!!!! This is for NEXT YEARS Eating and WHAT??? You THINK that Shutting OFF WATER to PLANTS/FOOD in the GROUND is OK???? Someone needs to FIRE you from SAYING/SPEAKING on Any ADULT Conversations!!!!🤬🤬🤬
Cobalt mining or either lithium mining takes a lot of water and they want to be able to build the batteries for the electric cars they want everybody to buy
3:30 He said it right there, "these guys are attacking our food supply"
Yep. We've been sold out
@@danskeeloNotHacked well people need to be outraged and tell them to STOP DOING THIS. WE DO NOT ACCEPT YOUR SHENANIGANS!
Your comment is going to be deleted and your account is going to be blocked and you’re gonna have to knock on the front door in the middle of the night
Yes, the Republican Governor is attacking the food supply...
Get real and read about the situation before you show your ignorance to the world.
Thats exactly what their doing. Globalist control power
CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY BY IDAHO GOVERNOR!!!
Who is by the way a Republican..
In all seriousness there is just not enough water for everyone. It is not about east Idaho vs west Idaho. It is about those districts that follow the rules and those who dont. Idaho's ground water (Eastern Snake Plain Aquifer) have been depleting rapidly in the last 50 years. From 18 million acre-feet to about 3.5 million acre feet.
@@hanshansen3885 Wrong. You sound like AI. There is plenty enough water.
The aquifer level was raised far higher than its natural capacity due to surface irrigation in east idaho from the late 1800’s to the mid 1900’s before commercial sprinkler systems became feasible.
Now, ironically, the same region responsible for raising the aquifer is now being punished by the state which handed out water rights to southern idaho based on poor information about the water supply.
It’s not a fun situation for anyone, but the onus comes down to the state and a realistic solution would be to change our water laws. Not fun or easy, but until that is done this cycle of threats and endlessly changing agreements will continue.
By the way, Gary Spackman and Matt Weaver (Dept. of water resources directors) altered the 2016 agreements significantly from when the pumpers originally signed on to it- changing baseline levels and water models- while refusing to hold hearings about the changes.
@@mackm1456 "From 2016 through 2022 groundwater pumpers, on average, conserved (through pumping reductions and aquifer recharge) over 312,000 acre-feet of water annually - much more than was required under the 2015 settlement agreement between canal and groundwater users," he adds.
There have been additional efforts made by farmers and other groundwater users to modernize, for instance, the Twin Falls Canal, only to have their offer rejected. It is almost as if the powers that be in Idaho want to starve the state's farmers of water in order to create a food crisis.
"It's hard to understand why the department chooses to be so openly hostile to groundwater irrigators or why they decided to inflict widespread, massive curtailment on the state in a year when water is abundantly plentiful," Young writes.
"This is not what sound resource management looks like."
The Dept. of water resources in Idaho have released a statement so you can just look there.
GROSS IRRESPONSIBILITY BY THE IDAHO DEPT OF WATER RESOURCES
Called an water emergency the aquifer is overdrafted.
Water your crops! Ignore the tyrannical government!
When the water runs out, it is called gone.
They actually put locks on the wells for the local canals.
Right...F that!
@@donaldkasper8346we have plenty of water. They're just shutting access down.
@@sweettoothmomma2621all the headgates in most area's have chains & locks on. Twin falls canal company has had their headgates locked for 40+ yrs. North side canal company put chains & locks on their headgates, 2 yrs ago.
CHECK THAT GOVERNOR'S BANK ACCOUNT ASAP
Brad Little is a republican.
He's a Republican Rino
How the heck does the Idaho water resources dept prevent farmers from using water???
Needed to be done,but why let them plant first? Should sue because of that. No reason they couldn't have told them last season aquifer was low.
@@jameskerrigan2997 No it absolutely DIDN'T need to be done. Watch again. The aquifers are busting at the seams.
@@sl4983 report I seen aquifer is at about 75% but like I said should have told farmers last year not after planting crop.
@@jameskerrigan2997 Well that tells you it's not up and up.
@@sl4983 Sure.
As a farmer that depends on putting water on his crop i feel them. Funny thing farmers are the most responsible water users. Unlike a majority of people that live in towns and cities, not saying everybody but a majority. Got to have that green lawn, got keep that golf course looking green.
Golf courses here in SoCal High Desert are commonly watered with city waste water.
Government is out of control
Yeah, the Republican Governor is out of control. Just because this guy whines on F0x then you believe everything that is said. Wake up.
@@hanshansen3885 You're either ai or a troll.
State regulations need to get fixed
From 2016 through 2022 groundwater pumpers, on average, conserved (through pumping reductions and aquifer recharge) over 312,000 acre-feet of water annually - much more than was required under the 2015 settlement agreement between canal and groundwater users," he adds.
There have been additional efforts made by farmers and other groundwater users to modernize, for instance, the Twin Falls Canal, only to have their offer rejected. It is almost as if the powers that be in Idaho want to starve the state's farmers of water in order to create a food crisis.
"It's hard to understand why the department chooses to be so openly hostile to groundwater irrigators or why they decided to inflict widespread, massive curtailment on the state in a year when water is abundantly plentiful," Young writes.
"This is not what sound resource management looks like."
Time for change! NOW
They want to own everything.
But they let people water their precious lawns.
What a communist thing to say
My lawn doesn't use 50 million gallons a day but local alfalfa farmer says that is what he pulls. Oh those shitty lawns. The lawns keep the carpenter ants out and the sand down so we can live here. Also keeps the house cool. Also allows dogs on the property. Alternative is filaree thorns. Thank you Mennonites in 1880s for bring that contaminated wheat from Russia with filaree, tumbleweeds, thornbush. Last week finished hauling out 20, 55 gallon trash cans of filaree weeds, then the mustard weed, then the tumbleweed, now the horsetail weed.
Alfalfa irrigation needs vary with a lot of things, but 33” per season a decent estimate.
Watering your lawn with 1.5” water per week May-September puts you a mere 3” less total use, and a lot of people over water their lawns.
So yes, on a per area basis, you are using very nearly as much water as that guy.
@@donaldkasper8346 160, 320, 640 acres of your lawn would use millions of gallons. think to scale one mans lawn vs a city of lawns.
@@publicdomain3378 In California 85% of water goes to farms. I think it should be the other way around and cities should get the 85% but I am not in politics to give cities a break. Overdrafting here going on just decades and finally state moved in and cut water drawdown for big operators 50%. So what are farmers here doing? Selling out their water rights and land to solar farms. Farming in a desert is a problem. You can only mine so much Ice Age fossil water.
Thank you Mr. Murdock for all your hard work and your voice!
Farmers had no warning. 4k to put an acre in, just to be left dry. Question, how many farmers got loans and who from? How many people are going to lose money and maybe their farm?
Good question
Sounds like you had a poor snow year, the reservoirs were not recharged. You did not bother to follow the runoff rate because why? You would ignore it only if you don't use that water.
A quick look at the Bureau of Reclamation’s upper snake reservoir page would tell you that Palisades and American Falls (the two largest reservoirs in the are) are at 98 and 98% capacity. So yes… they are definitely full and you must not live anywhere near here.
"From 2016 through 2022 groundwater pumpers, on average, conserved (through pumping reductions and aquifer recharge) over 312,000 acre-feet of water annually - much more than was required under the 2015 settlement agreement between canal and groundwater users," he adds.
There have been additional efforts made by farmers and other groundwater users to modernize, for instance, the Twin Falls Canal, only to have their offer rejected. It is almost as if the powers that be in Idaho want to starve the state's farmers of water in order to create a food crisis.
"It's hard to understand why the department chooses to be so openly hostile to groundwater irrigators or why they decided to inflict widespread, massive curtailment on the state in a year when water is abundantly plentiful," Young writes.
"This is not what sound resource management looks like."
@@sl4983 So you are saying state river discharge is at an all time high? Then you sue and get an emergency injunction using that data. Oh I see.
Idaho, Colorado, Kansas, Washington, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Missouri...control the food, control the people
Water is not infinite.
17 comments left, only 12 showing. YT censorship continues...
This is B.S.
Idaho get a crazy amount of snow. This is Democrats cutting off the food supply.
Don't let this happen.
Vote Trump 2024
Idaho is a Republican party state.
"These guys are attacking the food supply" said it right there. These regulations don't sound ethical, they should sue the government. Power to the people, let's all support our local farmers and pray for the ones facing such obstacles all around the country - one story after another....
Tell the state and governor to pound sand and water your fields. There is plenty of water in your state.
Has to be stopped
What does
Oh Lord plese pray Trump get's back in the Whitehouse.
@@sl4983 Biden's wanting to regulate the water now.
Follow the money
Ignore them
What is going on .....this is insanity.......
Flood the borders, cut the food chain, restrict the 💦's. Sounds like the agenda is going as planned. Governor Little is a useful tool, service to self.
And YT is blocking comments!!
@@sl4983yes they are
Well you've got a lot of Californians that moved here and everybody else it could be that it could be the Chinese watch your land
It's called... COMMUNISM
Time for subdivisions thats what going to happen.developers are waiting to buy the land cheap.
Homes for all the illegals and we can eat bugs 😢
Even if it went there they aren't going to get it cheap in Idaho
What In The World????
Manwhile rich communities can water their acres of lawns 🤦♂️
Reserved by chinese farms maybe?
You are a capitalist economy the owner of a resource can do what the hell they want with it ..... anything else is socialism
Nothing to do with chinese farms but F0x would surely like to imply that.
@@hanshansen3885 Has to do with Georgia Guidestones.
@sl4983 Ofc it is.... 🙄
I think that could happen too cuz they're buying everything up is there allowing that to happen
If there is a water shortage why are they not stopping new subdivisions with a ton of green lawns and pools from being constructed in the area?
Food or cobalt? We all need to keep corporate elites from F ing with farmers.
Hmm sounds like state made food shortage. No wonder food prices are going up, they always wanna screw with the farmers and ranchers these days
Yes, the very Red state is making food shortage...
But yet they got water for the golf courses and the swimming pools at the richh peoples houses.
The government thinks it OWNS the water😳 talk about government mismanagement 😡
Republican Governor with all Congressional seats filled by Republicans... Why are F0x viewers so easily manipulated?
@@hanshansen3885 their Democrats in disguise! They run as Republicans because they can’t getelected as Democrats!
It's intentional destruction of our food supply
Fed owns all water coming off Federal land, which is most all of it. Water coming off cities is contaminated with sewage and petroleum.
In the state of Idaho they do own the water, we have usufructuary rights
It goes deeper. The guys that ran the Twin Falls Canal company, got into positions at Idaho Dept of Water Resources and changed the formula that everyone was going by, to benefit the Twin Falls canal Co. FOLLOW THE $$
Idaho power just entered the chat..........................they can't use all the water so where's it going to go? thru the turbines and into the ocean
As someone who lives in Southern Idaho, mainly Twin Falls, I know the TFCC also bent over twice to meet Eastern Idaho Jr shareholders on changes in 09 and 15. Still, if TFCC or Southern Idaho didn't fight for it, Eastern Idaho would have gobbled this up and left everyone else high and dry over here. When the aquifer is full, you can drive to Thousand Springs, which tells you everything you need to know because it isn't flowing like you think.
TFCC still needs to fill the canal system to total capacity because I'm not getting my shares.
Glad that Fox is making this national news.... I voted against Governor Little 2 years ago in the Primary and General... He's the biggest RINO in the entire USA
Shut down the unnecessary car washes. I would rather eat than worry about a clean car.
I thought the governor of Idaho is a Republican ? Is he a " Rino Republican " who is " In Bed with the Democrats " ? The State Senate has to act FAST !
Yes they do!
Yes gov. little is a rino. He’s in bed with China.
BOTH PARTIES HAVE THE SAME AGENDA fact
He's a Rhino. He couldn't decide if he was going to roll over for Biden or grow a pair & say no .. he rolled over.
@@deborahwhit118 And then there is Maga , that has the same agenda as Russia .
So these are the repercussions of all the Californians that recently moved to Idaho. Ridiculous.
Bs
Only if they are the Snake River Plain and ground pumping wells, which most towns and cities have a reliance on the aquifer.
Meanwhile the mega apartment complexes don’t have a limit on the water usage.
This is a world wide problem caused by the un 2030 agreement government needs to get out of 2030 agreement government needs to be reduced
Un agenda 2030
This is a wet year! What kind of conspiracy is driving this stupidity!?
Where? It rained 3 times in the spring where I live on the Snake River Plains..
Wake up America! Henry Kissinger, Claus Schwab's college professor said "control the food, control the people." We are experiencing different farm attacks here in PA.
TRUMP 2024 🎉🎉🎉🎉
There is plenty of water in Idaho. Current government wants population depletion.
Does anyone know what that's going to do to the cost of potatoes and byproducts. Yeah
Not only potatoes but corn wheat barley sugar and many many other food items prices are about to be jacked up like no other
Sounds like the governor is either an ignoramous or has an agenda not in Idaho's best interest.
sounds like a dem in republican clothing
People should thank Brandon and his Bideonomics!
DO NOT COMPLY
This is what you get when you have California and everybody else moving here the governor is a rancher he's not going to let this happen but he'll keep raising those property taxes where nobody can afford their rent or their house bills
Ya it's IdaFornia now God help us
Wow! Guess the right wing Idaho government does care about its people!
The Gov. Of Idaho needs to do the right thing by the farmers and the state. I wish thee interviews would tell us what we could do to raise a voice and stop this.
Thats the plan, now you’re dependent on the government
70% of all Idaho potatoes come from this affected area. If they allow this to occur without immediate intervention and punishment it will starve the country. Idaho is also the top #1 producer by rank in potato production. This is too important for the country to be allowed to happen. This could create actual food riots.
Youll own nothing and be happy.
How is the Republican governor letting this happen?
The water belongs to the people! Not the government
Here is what is going to happen, family farms are put out of business and corporate farms take over. The current governor did not write the bill, the bill that was put in place was written a very very long time ago, farmers at that time lacked the foresight to protect their ground water rights. At the heart of this is a power company btw. The people must stand up for family farms and private property against this hostile take over by corporations all across the nation. If corporations have a right to own land so should the people. End of story.
Yes and no. Twin Falls Canel Company has existed since 1909, which makes them the senior shareholder for water in the Southern part of the state. ground pumpers came in the 1950s, making them Jr, so it's a matter of water rights. TFCC has come to the table multiple times, but Eastern Idaho keeps wanting more, and TFCC is doing what it feels is in the best interest of its shareholders, who are farmers as well. In the end, dang, nearly every city that is on the Snake Riber Plain is getting their water from the aquifer that the Eastern Idaho farmers are using.
I want to hear what the reason for that is, nobody talks about it
This needs a lot more Public Attention!!!
Someone is making a lot of money off of this and it’s wrong!
Where are the comments???
Censored by yt
@@shawnhayhurst9445 unbelievable
You people have been told to conserve your ground water for decades, you ignored it, now you are paying the price, stop whinning.
where’s the people????
don’t give up your farm?
fire the governor. He’s compromised.
Did you know Native Americans owned slaves? Happy Juneteenth.
I support the farms and oppose government overreach. We need smaller national and local governments. Just leave us alone. Let us live in peace. Stop the endless wars. 🇺🇸🙏
Funny how a lithium mine also in Idaho was grant 24 hr work schedule 1 day prior to this water restriction. Which requires alot of water. Hmmmmmm?
How TF is this legal? Stand strong and armed.
Idaho farmer here. I don't personally have a dog in this fight, so I hope to look at it rationally. I first thought "how can they do that to these poor farmers". The more I learn the more I see that there are deeper issues than these poor Farmers not getting their water. This aquifer, underground river through the state, is drying up and the farmers who are getting the press don't quantify that they have not been working with farmers down stream, who have senior water rights. Surface water and underground water are two different issues. It can take years for the surface water to make its way to the aquifer. This needs to be discussed with both sides in the press. No reason to make bad guys out of these politicians. This is a farmer against farmer with the Idaho department of water resources policing the issue. The governor can't take sides and shouldn't. We all need to learn more about this
The governor has the power, don't kid yourself
The aquifer is not drying up, what is the twin falls canal co. going to do with all the water they want to take? that's right, it's going down the river and in to the ocean, Idaho Power has just left the chat
@@annmatthews196 I assume, yes he does have the power. Which farmer do you feel he should side with? They have the opportunity to follow a plan and so far they have chosen not follow the plan. I'm not picking sides here, but it is an issue between farmers rights. I'm sure they will get their water but it seems that it will force them to follow a plan to conserve the aquifer from depleting further. We all need to learn both sides of this issue before throwing mud, or... dry clods
@@Jpaydirt sounds like an issue they need to sort out. It will force all to come to the table. This has been going on for over a decade and it has come to a head
@@AlanBaum with all due respect Sir, I am not throwing mud or anything else, I am taking a stand for
The people who need to grow food and for the people who need to eat it, the government is not being transparent and that is not right
Control the water control the food control the people
Economic Terroristism is the dictionary definition for this.
Why dont they stop all of the unprecedented housing going on in Idaho particularly in Boise.
Government destroying farming.
Force stop your UA-cam app if it doesn't let you comment. Then open it again.
Time to drive the tractors to Bosie.....
"The season before the harvest? Harvest is when I need you the most"
They interview one guy with one point of view. What's the rest of the story?
I live in the area. I think everyone is baffled at what the rest might be. There is a company who owns water rights for reservoir water and ground water. While the reservoirs are full the ground water is low so they are demanding their rights. Legally they can do that but the timing is critical for farmers, there was no discussion, just out of the blue (after crops were already planted and farms invested in this upcoming season) they were told they couldn't use ground water any more. It is a messy situation and hopefully can be resolved before it's dire for farmers. Farming is a dying profession and things like this will cut out even more of them. It's so disheartening.
@@kip3784 It wasn't out of the blue; they gave notice in late March and April, and the Sr shareholder isn't even at Capacity, nor are they delivering at capacity.
How would you go about and follow the money to see who benefits from this? Maybe a big corporate buy out in a few years when all the farmers are broke?
If they're going to cut off the water, they should do it after the harvest.
Farmers made a massive investment just to get their crops to this state.
Skyler Massey
Michael William Did you know the day before shutting the farmers off. The state of Idaho gave a water permit to mine Colbalt on the Salmon River. It takes roughly 34 billion gallons to irrigate the 500,000 acres yearly.
The Colbalt mine will use. WALLA!!!! about 34 billion gallons a year. There is a treaty with the Tribe so much water must reach the Columbia basin a year. To mine the Colbalt there was not going to be enough water to meet Idaho's required amount of water for both.
Hum, NEXT you have the biggest Chip manufacturing plant in the world being built in Southern Idaho.
Does not take a Rocket Scientist to see why the farmers permits were pulled.
We need to organize.
They want to create land for wind and solar power generation for California and it's EV mandate.
after bankruptcy, when tractors don't sell , do the chinese come in and take off with the equipment for their land use?
Cobalt mining look it up. Jervois 200 govt official investors
Paid for in Ukraine bill DOD .., put in any of that u will c
Unite farmers and an active coop. You mess with me, you mess with my whole family.
Look into the cobalt mining that happing in Idaho
Their goal
I have wonder if the presence of cobalt in that area and the Dept. of Defense putting money toward the mining of cobalt has anything to do with this water issue.
A quick primer in Idaho water law. Basically, it is first come first served. If you drill a well, or take water from a stream, you need water right issued by the state. Those who apply for and use a consumptive water right, are allowed to withdraw water so long as it doesn’t interfere with the right of someone who received their right earlier. Streams are pretty simple, if there are rights Senior to yours, downstream from your diversion, you have to let enough water pass your diversion that they can get their water. Even if letting that much water pass your diversion, means you don’t get any water.
Ground, (subsurface) water is the same concept, but complicated by the fact that you can’t see ground water flowing, and the knowledge of how water moves through the aquifers has exploded over the last few decades. Fifty years ago, there was very little understanding of how taking water, from one well or spring affected the other wells and springs on that aquifer, which might be hundred of miles away.
It is now known with a high degree of accuracy which wells come from what aquifers. And, the Idaho Department of Water Resources, is required to curtail junior well rights, to assure senior water rights are met. In southern Idaho, there are huge springs which have been steadily flowing since time immemorial. Those springs feed power plants and canals. Those users have very senior water rights on the aquifer, and users uphill from them on the aquifer have been told to curtail their use to assure the senior rights are met.
Looks lik Brad little is gonna get voted out in the next election
This really has little to do with him and more between Sr and Jr shareholders, basically farmers.
When will we stop complaining on UA-cam and start standing up.
What is the city or county government doing for their towns. Just give them the water. Just use the water.
Its untrue that water levels are historically high. Rivers and dams are always full during the spring due to snowmelt, but they need to manage through fall.
If anybody cares, they worked out a deal.
Goverment is doing this in every state why?
Lithium in the ground is worth more than potatoes.
Fox get your facts before jumping on one side
Of course they are intentionally doing this how else are they going to drive away the landowners. How else are they supposed to get the entire state of Idaho under Federal control if they don't force out the landowners?
Evil will prevail if good men stand by and do nothing……..
Lmao the lady in the beginning
Sell the land retire and starving America can ask the government for their food
What family farms? All I see is this guy’s corporation.
Time to take the law into your own hands.