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I seem to remember that the 'original' crosses were, depending on wood availability, in an 'X' formation. The '+' version is somewhat more harsh in that it makes any sagging down the '+' and the extra stresses on the arms I guess. The 'X' version was just a little easier to set up. Fun...
The crosses are there because of A Witch Shall Be Born. In this novel, at a certain point, Conan is crucified, and he must escape his predicament by pulling his own nails out, much like the way he helps us in the intro of Exiles. The novel is, of course, quite good, and not long at all, I can absolutely recommend it for reading.
Funny how in "A Witch Shall Be Born" titular witch, Salome is suspiciously similar to Salome from Gospel of Mark, who was instrumental in killing John The Baptist.
That mention of Toth Amon's mercenaries being pushed out gives me hope we will see him, at least somewhat in a future age. And hopefully the next age will bring back Mek Kamoses and his plan to recover after AoW chapter one.
I'd like to see him at some point, but I also wonder exactly how much justice can be done to him in-game without damaging or adjusting the lore that happens after TEL in the source material. I wouldn't be against seeing a 'representative' of Thoth Amon, or having to deal with Nyarlathotep again, instead of potentially having a disappointing appearance of such an important character
@@Eradicati0nn They could and should continue Mek Kamoses' story. And find a way to implement The Servant of The Black Ring, Toth Amon's Anubis like flunkie. It would also be funny if there was a way to get the Black Ring of Set off The Keeper, and hold it for ransom.
@@TomLinkens They most definitely will pick up Mek's story again, it's just a question of when. AoS was wonderful lore-wise but heaving that heavy lore consistently can get a bit much, so a little time away makes it fresh again. The Serpent Ring is something I wouldn't be surprised to see in the future, though I think it's probably a 50/50 chance, it's one of many dangling threads
nice lore crafting i tend to agree with you about the idea of filters and something behind the scenes, a plan for these criminals, thx again for the nice video.
Fun fact: Despite being named after him, Fermi did not invent the Fermi paradox. Enrico Fermi was a nuclear physicist, not an astrophysicist. One day at Los Alamos, while having lunch with his fellow scientists, Fermi did ask the question “where is everyone?” In reference to the possibly existence of extraterrestrial life. Only years later did people find out about Fermi’s question, and only then did scientists coin the term “Fermi paradox”.
Always love a good Eradicati0n video! And those Savage Realms Monthly fellows sound like pirates and scallywags, but I hear they put out a pretty good magazine! LOL. I may be biased....
@@petroandras I understand from the Conan lore that despite Stygia has a monarchical government and noble houses the priests of Set holds the true power, in a behind the curtain kind of way.
@@davidfrancisco3502 You are right.. In Exiles's lore it seems that TA builds up this power using the Exiled Land. He starts by getting the Serpent ring of Set, making him the formidable power we know him as from the books, and then goes to do the whole scheme we learn about in Sepermeru.
Most definitely, though the Battle Pass tableaus seem to imply the order came directly from Ctesphon. The lore on the Age of War is fairly light, mostly just dressing for the content, so I don't think there's any deeper inference we can make about the political state of Stygia unless it's built on in the future, though deep-diving it might offer a bit more insight, I'm planning to do that fairly soon
Id like to know more about the disjunction. Ive always wondered about that place. I think its unfinished content. There is a lore plaque somewhere that says a little bit about it, but its vague 🤔
do you think every single person in the exiled lands was crucified (not just the player characters but all the human npc's too) or perhaps only some are crucified and others are not
Very little is known about the history of crucifixion, the earliest recorded was around 500 BCE in Greece, but we can assume that this method of punishment is much older than that. Assuming the fictitious Hyborian age takes place around 11.5k BCE, around the time of the younger dryas, it can be imagined that the pre-cataclysm civilisations of that age practiced this form of punishment extensively. And it definitely has nothing to do with the biblical versions of it simply because nothing in the bible has been proven to be true yet. Great video Erad!
Thanks Sin! The true origins of crucifixion would be interesting to learn more about, though it could be as simple as being based upon the human torso, given the two outstretched arms and the central post. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Funny you should say nothing from the Bible has been proven, because we have found multiple archeological references to kings who are named in the Bible. Maybe do a little more research before before making such a broad claim next time. Or at least specify what you believe is not true versus what has been found and confirmed.
@@AmericanAurochs nothing is confirmed the Bible is just a story that contains real things just like a Spider-Man book mentions New York. Does that mean Spider-Man is real? Do some research and try not to use logical fallacies to prove things.
@@gameforce514 A story that was written across (roughly) 1,500 years by over 40 different authors, doesn’t contradict itself and keeps being proven accurate by new archeological discoveries. We are both biased on this subject, please don’t be intellectually dishonest enough to pretend otherwise, but at least separate the moral teachings from the historical narrative. Especially if you’re going to make such broad claims about vast periods of Middle Eastern history.
@@AmericanAurochs Show us the evidence then? Where is it? I am not biased I am just seeking the truth, I want to believe but I can't because there just isn't enough evidence to do so. What convinced you that it is true?
Hey, brother. Do you know if they sell T-shirts with the covers on them?? I'm in my 50s and when I was growing up some of my favourite shirts were Boris Vallejo shirts bought at head shops. I can't seem to find anything like them anymore and those covers are sweet as hell.✌🏼
I've spotted a couple of old comic book cover shirts on Teepublic, but generally is seems like a lot of the same art, mostly stuff from the movie. Unfortunately, it seems like the sort of thing you'd have to really dig around for, or maybe get one done yourself through Etsy. I've had to order custom shirts for bands I like that don't have any merch before, so I feel your pain 😩
@@Eradicati0nn Thanks for the response. Sad that the magazine doesn't use the covers as merch, it's beautiful art. I didn't ask I guess I just assumed you knew who Boris Vallejo was or is. For me, him and Frank Frazetta were the pinnacle of sword and sorcery art. I wonder, have you ever seen Fire and Ice?? If not, brother, you're doing yourself a disservice. Take care.✌
Nothing. In fact, it's not a rare occurence: look at Sepermeru, New Asagarth and Mounds of the Dead. They're all more or less functioning city-states within the Exiled Lands. There's also The Summoning Place and The Den, but these people don't care about making things civilized, they're too caught up in worship of the dark forces they serve.
Theoretically nothing, they've arguably achieved some semblance of that with Sepermeru. I suppose the main problems would be the massively conflicting views on culture, religion etc. The perfect example would be the Setites and the Mitraens, deeply opposed on cultural grounds. That's probably Thoth's failsafe against an Exiled Lands nation, the internal conflict that would inevitably surface
I think it's much simpler. Conan is not in the game. Funcom needed something for him to do, voila, he gets us down from sure death. Also, they follow the original movie, ALOT, "Crucify him on the tree of Woe." I think it was a one two whammy of that.
They staple to your stomach the reasons you were crucified when you finish your character creation. Which are random. As to how you actually wound up on there, that's the thing they never really explained. Who put you there. Though given when you wake up on it, now bound by the bracelet, something we're left to assume you didn't have prior. Certainly you weren't in the exiled lands, so it stands to reason a nefarious sorcerer has placed you there, or at least is ultimately responsible for why you're there. Ultimately it stands to reason everyone and everything in the exiled lands is already dead. Or dying. And trapped in perpetual undeath if you will. Because when you do die, you just respawn. And ultimately the only way to escape the exiled lands is to remove your bracelet, and as you know, removing that, kills you. But end game once you gather all the items you need, you can permanently remove the bracelet. This also completely wiped everything you had in that process. So you're left with continuing to keep everything you've built, worked so hard to get, or sacrifice everything and like crom, simply vanish, laughing at the four winds. 🧐
I do agree with that, Mitra always comes across as a sort of proto-Christian religion, it's definitely the closest religion comes in-game to matching Christianity I'd say. It is understandably lacking the iconography and such though
I think you are already dead when you start the game. That's how the exiled lands seem to work. It is a curse, you die and respawn forever. When you are taken from the cross Conan calls you Deadman. Then you get hit by a sandstorm and die because that is what happens early game when sandstorms appear. Then you respawn in the desert after the storm has passed. The exiled lands are like a twisted purgatory, a different realm of corrupted dark magic, and Thoth Ammon feeds from the misery of those lost in exile. At least that is what it seemed before the Age of War. In the Sunken City Dungeon, there is an inscription that reads, " But that which can eternal lie. I sent my will through time and space - to a place beyond the reach of ordinary mortals. A place between places. A land of exiles." People will argue that it is a part of the Hyborian world but trying to place it on the map makes no sense. And yet I don't think we will ever get a straight answer from the developers. And yet it's a damn good game!
I used to think the purgatory theory was a pretty solid one, but as time has gone on, I've actually come to believe it's likely not true. The use of 'Deadman' or Arcos saying that he's seen people he'd heard were dead seems to allude more to the idea of being presumed dead, as prisoners sent to TEL were likely said to have died back in their home. They're also basically publicly 'dead', given they can't escape TEL or get word out to anyone. Dead in the sense of Orwell's 'de-personed', I guess; a metaphorical death. The sandstorm is a weird one, the solution is kinda weak. It's possible that it could have been the outer fringes of the storm, or the dunes could have provided just enough cover to survive, but they're a bit disappointing in terms of explaining it. I think it's one of those "don't think too much about it" things. The inscription in The Sunken City is also a weird one. It definitely does seem like a near confirmation of some sort of mortal barrier between TEL and everywhere else, so purgatory is a decent explanation. It's also possible it could be a little more metaphorical, or perhaps TEL is literally nearly impossible for 'ordinary mortals', as in peasants or those unprepared, to reach. Trying to place TEL on a map is definitely a fruitless activity tho, I'm sure the devs have said before that it's deliberately not on any of the Hyborian maps. I might actually tackle this concept in the next Raw Lore video. Regardless of if it's purgatory or not, I kinda hope the devs never confirm it. It's much more interesting with that idea being up in the air
In the original R.E. Howard story, Conan had help in escaping the Cross. It's been a while since i read it, but some guy cut down the cross with Conan still on it (which would basically break someons back when hitting the ground). Conan survived it (of course), but my point is NO ONE - not even conan himself - could escape the cross without outside help. Using the Cross as some kind mechanic to filter out only the strongest is nonsense imho. Especially when we see the countless inhabitants of the exiled lands. Have they ALL been crucified and freed themselves somehow?
I'd definitely say we're led to believe that at least the majority of those in TEL have been crucified, just from inference of those we've already met that have been on the cross. Based on what we know, I think it's safe to assume that anyone with a bracelet has been crucified Of those, three major characters stand out as being helped by others: Braga, Razma and The Exile. Razma and The Exile were of course helped by Conan, and Braga by Sanus, though I would imagine at least some of the exiles have managed to free themselves, there's no indication that Sanus was freed by anyone else, though also no direct reference that he wasn't. There's also other characters like Mek Kamoses, of whom we have no idea on their initial arrival to TEL If The Cross was the only filter, yeah, it'd be pretty weak. There are many other filters like the sandstorm, the beasts, the purge etc. It arguably still remains a filter, both in surviving long enough to be saved and leading into being able to be valuable enough to not be left behind from whomever saves the exile in question
@@Eradicati0nn ok, but how do you escape it, without any outside help? With hands and feet nailed to a big chunk of wood, there is no chance (at least that i can see) to free yourself.
@@nealsterling8151 I have no idea, at least not without horrid hand injuries 😂 Given the stuff that many Exiles have survived though, I doubt we'll ever get official confirmation as to how precisely the process of entering TEL works
@@Eradicati0nn The only way i could imagine was that there had been bands of... good hearted exiles (?) that gave themselv the task of freeing newly crucified Exiles on a regular basis or even had a Base in the south where they could get a constant flow of new arrivals. But even this theory wouldn't work well since there had to be at least one guy/gal to start the process. So... i have no idea how this makes any sense tbh.
@@nealsterling8151 Oh absolutely, if you take it right back to the first Exile then it starts to get a bit confusing. Taking it that far back is probably looking a little deeper than is necessary IMO, unless early exiles just weren't crucified for some reason
Once he says that it has no religious meaning end of video. He mentions that it predates the religious meaning, by which they got proscecuted thieves and criminals. Why a 7:30 min long video
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I seem to remember that the 'original' crosses were, depending on wood availability, in an 'X' formation. The '+' version is somewhat more harsh in that it makes any sagging down the '+' and the extra stresses on the arms I guess. The 'X' version was just a little easier to set up. Fun...
The crosses are there because of A Witch Shall Be Born. In this novel, at a certain point, Conan is crucified, and he must escape his predicament by pulling his own nails out, much like the way he helps us in the intro of Exiles. The novel is, of course, quite good, and not long at all, I can absolutely recommend it for reading.
Thanks for the knowledge drop! That makes a lot of sense, I like how Conan's struggle has been repurposed in this case for the Exiles
Funny how in "A Witch Shall Be Born" titular witch, Salome is suspiciously similar to Salome from Gospel of Mark, who was instrumental in killing John The Baptist.
Interesting
I really really like this as a concept
That mention of Toth Amon's mercenaries being pushed out gives me hope we will see him, at least somewhat in a future age. And hopefully the next age will bring back Mek Kamoses and his plan to recover after AoW chapter one.
I'd like to see him at some point, but I also wonder exactly how much justice can be done to him in-game without damaging or adjusting the lore that happens after TEL in the source material. I wouldn't be against seeing a 'representative' of Thoth Amon, or having to deal with Nyarlathotep again, instead of potentially having a disappointing appearance of such an important character
@@Eradicati0nn They could and should continue Mek Kamoses' story. And find a way to implement The Servant of The Black Ring, Toth Amon's Anubis like flunkie. It would also be funny if there was a way to get the Black Ring of Set off The Keeper, and hold it for ransom.
@@TomLinkens They most definitely will pick up Mek's story again, it's just a question of when. AoS was wonderful lore-wise but heaving that heavy lore consistently can get a bit much, so a little time away makes it fresh again.
The Serpent Ring is something I wouldn't be surprised to see in the future, though I think it's probably a 50/50 chance, it's one of many dangling threads
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now this is a good thinking piece of a lore video when making backgrounds for a RP server.
Thanks Pyro!
nice lore crafting i tend to agree with you about the idea of filters and something behind the scenes, a plan for these criminals, thx again for the nice video.
Thanks Paiva, glad you enjoyed it!
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Thanks Paollo, glad you enjoyed it! 🙏
@@Eradicati0nn Thank YOU!! My pleasure, you're most welcome! 😉
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Fun fact: Despite being named after him, Fermi did not invent the Fermi paradox. Enrico Fermi was a nuclear physicist, not an astrophysicist. One day at Los Alamos, while having lunch with his fellow scientists, Fermi did ask the question “where is everyone?” In reference to the possibly existence of extraterrestrial life. Only years later did people find out about Fermi’s question, and only then did scientists coin the term “Fermi paradox”.
Always love a good Eradicati0n video! And those Savage Realms Monthly fellows sound like pirates and scallywags, but I hear they put out a pretty good magazine! LOL. I may be biased....
King Conan is a huge threat to Thoth
Toth Amon is part of the stygian ruling class isn't? He should be able to command forces of the stygian army to do what he wants.
He does so indirectly. He provides advantages to the stygian sovereign, who in turn owes him favors.
@@petroandras I understand from the Conan lore that despite Stygia has a monarchical government and noble houses the priests of Set holds the true power, in a behind the curtain kind of way.
@@davidfrancisco3502 You are right.. In Exiles's lore it seems that TA builds up this power using the Exiled Land. He starts by getting the Serpent ring of Set, making him the formidable power we know him as from the books, and then goes to do the whole scheme we learn about in Sepermeru.
Most definitely, though the Battle Pass tableaus seem to imply the order came directly from Ctesphon. The lore on the Age of War is fairly light, mostly just dressing for the content, so I don't think there's any deeper inference we can make about the political state of Stygia unless it's built on in the future, though deep-diving it might offer a bit more insight, I'm planning to do that fairly soon
Well you see, Thoth-Amon was a commoner. he wields his power indirectly through the Priesthood and through his assassins.
Id like to know more about the disjunction. Ive always wondered about that place. I think its unfinished content. There is a lore plaque somewhere that says a little bit about it, but its vague 🤔
do you think every single person in the exiled lands was crucified (not just the player characters but all the human npc's too) or perhaps only some are crucified and others are not
Very little is known about the history of crucifixion, the earliest recorded was around 500 BCE in Greece, but we can assume that this method of punishment is much older than that.
Assuming the fictitious Hyborian age takes place around 11.5k BCE, around the time of the younger dryas, it can be imagined that the pre-cataclysm civilisations of that age practiced this form of punishment extensively.
And it definitely has nothing to do with the biblical versions of it simply because nothing in the bible has been proven to be true yet.
Great video Erad!
Thanks Sin! The true origins of crucifixion would be interesting to learn more about, though it could be as simple as being based upon the human torso, given the two outstretched arms and the central post. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Funny you should say nothing from the Bible has been proven, because we have found multiple archeological references to kings who are named in the Bible. Maybe do a little more research before before making such a broad claim next time. Or at least specify what you believe is not true versus what has been found and confirmed.
@@AmericanAurochs nothing is confirmed the Bible is just a story that contains real things just like a Spider-Man book mentions New York. Does that mean Spider-Man is real? Do some research and try not to use logical fallacies to prove things.
@@gameforce514 A story that was written across (roughly) 1,500 years by over 40 different authors, doesn’t contradict itself and keeps being proven accurate by new archeological discoveries.
We are both biased on this subject, please don’t be intellectually dishonest enough to pretend otherwise, but at least separate the moral teachings from the historical narrative.
Especially if you’re going to make such broad claims about vast periods of Middle Eastern history.
@@AmericanAurochs Show us the evidence then? Where is it? I am not biased I am just seeking the truth, I want to believe but I can't because there just isn't enough evidence to do so. What convinced you that it is true?
VERY COOL theory :)
the cross does appear as part of the iconography of Mitra.
Where abouts? I know of the Mitraen Ankh, though that symbol seems quite different from the modern Christian cross in terms of both meaning and usage
Hey, brother. Do you know if they sell T-shirts with the covers on them??
I'm in my 50s and when I was growing up some of my favourite shirts were Boris Vallejo shirts bought at head shops. I can't seem to find anything like them anymore and those covers are sweet as hell.✌🏼
I've spotted a couple of old comic book cover shirts on Teepublic, but generally is seems like a lot of the same art, mostly stuff from the movie. Unfortunately, it seems like the sort of thing you'd have to really dig around for, or maybe get one done yourself through Etsy.
I've had to order custom shirts for bands I like that don't have any merch before, so I feel your pain 😩
@@Eradicati0nn
Thanks for the response. Sad that the magazine doesn't use the covers as merch, it's beautiful art. I didn't ask I guess I just assumed you knew who Boris Vallejo was or is. For me, him and Frank Frazetta were the pinnacle of sword and sorcery art. I wonder, have you ever seen Fire and Ice?? If not, brother, you're doing yourself a disservice.
Take care.✌
Why does the Savage Realms covers look like AI art?
What's stops the people from banning together, forming their own nation within the exile lands?
Nothing. In fact, it's not a rare occurence: look at Sepermeru, New Asagarth and Mounds of the Dead. They're all more or less functioning city-states within the Exiled Lands.
There's also The Summoning Place and The Den, but these people don't care about making things civilized, they're too caught up in worship of the dark forces they serve.
Theoretically nothing, they've arguably achieved some semblance of that with Sepermeru. I suppose the main problems would be the massively conflicting views on culture, religion etc. The perfect example would be the Setites and the Mitraens, deeply opposed on cultural grounds. That's probably Thoth's failsafe against an Exiled Lands nation, the internal conflict that would inevitably surface
A major linchpin of my PVP RP server's backstory involves my faction building an empire within the Exiled Lands after our banishment.
I think it's much simpler.
Conan is not in the game. Funcom needed something for him to do, voila, he gets us down from sure death.
Also, they follow the original movie, ALOT, "Crucify him on the tree of Woe."
I think it was a one two whammy of that.
But all I did was pee in a well.
They staple to your stomach the reasons you were crucified when you finish your character creation. Which are random. As to how you actually wound up on there, that's the thing they never really explained. Who put you there. Though given when you wake up on it, now bound by the bracelet, something we're left to assume you didn't have prior. Certainly you weren't in the exiled lands, so it stands to reason a nefarious sorcerer has placed you there, or at least is ultimately responsible for why you're there. Ultimately it stands to reason everyone and everything in the exiled lands is already dead. Or dying. And trapped in perpetual undeath if you will. Because when you do die, you just respawn. And ultimately the only way to escape the exiled lands is to remove your bracelet, and as you know, removing that, kills you. But end game once you gather all the items you need, you can permanently remove the bracelet. This also completely wiped everything you had in that process. So you're left with continuing to keep everything you've built, worked so hard to get, or sacrifice everything and like crom, simply vanish, laughing at the four winds. 🧐
Actually the worship of Mitra has very Judeo-Christian/Greco-Roman themes to it.
I do agree with that, Mitra always comes across as a sort of proto-Christian religion, it's definitely the closest religion comes in-game to matching Christianity I'd say. It is understandably lacking the iconography and such though
On about the same level that early Christianity had lots of similarities to the veneration of Mithras in Rome at the time.
I think you are already dead when you start the game. That's how the exiled lands seem to work. It is a curse, you die and respawn forever. When you are taken from the cross Conan calls you Deadman. Then you get hit by a sandstorm and die because that is what happens early game when sandstorms appear. Then you respawn in the desert after the storm has passed. The exiled lands are like a twisted purgatory, a different realm of corrupted dark magic, and Thoth Ammon feeds from the misery of those lost in exile. At least that is what it seemed before the Age of War. In the Sunken City Dungeon, there is an inscription that reads, " But that which can eternal lie. I sent my will through time and space - to a place beyond the reach of ordinary mortals. A place between places. A land of exiles." People will argue that it is a part of the Hyborian world but trying to place it on the map makes no sense. And yet I don't think we will ever get a straight answer from the developers. And yet it's a damn good game!
I used to think the purgatory theory was a pretty solid one, but as time has gone on, I've actually come to believe it's likely not true.
The use of 'Deadman' or Arcos saying that he's seen people he'd heard were dead seems to allude more to the idea of being presumed dead, as prisoners sent to TEL were likely said to have died back in their home. They're also basically publicly 'dead', given they can't escape TEL or get word out to anyone. Dead in the sense of Orwell's 'de-personed', I guess; a metaphorical death.
The sandstorm is a weird one, the solution is kinda weak. It's possible that it could have been the outer fringes of the storm, or the dunes could have provided just enough cover to survive, but they're a bit disappointing in terms of explaining it. I think it's one of those "don't think too much about it" things.
The inscription in The Sunken City is also a weird one. It definitely does seem like a near confirmation of some sort of mortal barrier between TEL and everywhere else, so purgatory is a decent explanation. It's also possible it could be a little more metaphorical, or perhaps TEL is literally nearly impossible for 'ordinary mortals', as in peasants or those unprepared, to reach. Trying to place TEL on a map is definitely a fruitless activity tho, I'm sure the devs have said before that it's deliberately not on any of the Hyborian maps.
I might actually tackle this concept in the next Raw Lore video. Regardless of if it's purgatory or not, I kinda hope the devs never confirm it. It's much more interesting with that idea being up in the air
The quote sounds Lovecraftian. Possibly a clue to something, or just a nice touch that was added.
@@Eradicati0nn It is a great mystery not needing to be solved.
In the original R.E. Howard story, Conan had help in escaping the Cross.
It's been a while since i read it, but some guy cut down the cross with Conan still on it (which would basically break someons back when hitting the ground).
Conan survived it (of course), but my point is NO ONE - not even conan himself - could escape the cross without outside help.
Using the Cross as some kind mechanic to filter out only the strongest is nonsense imho. Especially when we see the countless inhabitants of the exiled lands. Have they ALL been crucified and freed themselves somehow?
I'd definitely say we're led to believe that at least the majority of those in TEL have been crucified, just from inference of those we've already met that have been on the cross. Based on what we know, I think it's safe to assume that anyone with a bracelet has been crucified
Of those, three major characters stand out as being helped by others: Braga, Razma and The Exile. Razma and The Exile were of course helped by Conan, and Braga by Sanus, though I would imagine at least some of the exiles have managed to free themselves, there's no indication that Sanus was freed by anyone else, though also no direct reference that he wasn't. There's also other characters like Mek Kamoses, of whom we have no idea on their initial arrival to TEL
If The Cross was the only filter, yeah, it'd be pretty weak. There are many other filters like the sandstorm, the beasts, the purge etc. It arguably still remains a filter, both in surviving long enough to be saved and leading into being able to be valuable enough to not be left behind from whomever saves the exile in question
@@Eradicati0nn ok, but how do you escape it, without any outside help? With hands and feet nailed to a big chunk of wood, there is no chance (at least that i can see) to free yourself.
@@nealsterling8151 I have no idea, at least not without horrid hand injuries 😂 Given the stuff that many Exiles have survived though, I doubt we'll ever get official confirmation as to how precisely the process of entering TEL works
@@Eradicati0nn The only way i could imagine was that there had been bands of... good hearted exiles (?) that gave themselv the task of freeing newly crucified Exiles on a regular basis or even had a Base in the south where they could get a constant flow of new arrivals. But even this theory wouldn't work well since there had to be at least one guy/gal to start the process.
So... i have no idea how this makes any sense tbh.
@@nealsterling8151 Oh absolutely, if you take it right back to the first Exile then it starts to get a bit confusing. Taking it that far back is probably looking a little deeper than is necessary IMO, unless early exiles just weren't crucified for some reason
Once he says that it has no religious meaning end of video. He mentions that it predates the religious meaning, by which they got proscecuted thieves and criminals. Why a 7:30 min long video
Because the question of 'why are we on a cross' wasn't answered? 😂