Welding My Gate Together
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- Опубліковано 4 бер 2024
- I'm finally back to the gate project I started last summer. This video is an indepth look at welding
square tubing into the framework for a massive entry gate. Want to learn to weld? Watch this: • Introduction to Welding
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Can you imagine the luck of having this guy be your father or grandfather? Mine was a useless drunk but have found some great fatherly insights from this man. Thank god for UA-cam and thank god for this channel
I think I’ve been watching EC almost from the beginning. I think it’s great that you have Ken with you on so many of these projects. My eyes have been giving me problems the past year and I haven’t been able to wood work like I’ve wanted. Hopefully again someday. That said, I can see Ken sitting there, and I can feel through my TV screen how much he must want to jump up and help if he could. At least you give him this, though I suspect he gives you much more. Keep up the good work.
My man Mr Kenny sittin’ by the fire supervising. Love to see it
Been welding ,fabricating etc for around 40 years.
Good build and great safety tip which most welding channels leave out.
Bravo EC.
Oh wow! The closing segment where Scott discussed Shop Talk featured a picture of my firewood shed build that I shared during the chat. This is truly an honor!!!
Shop Talk really is a great community and a time I look forward to every couple weeks in my busy life. Thanks Scott and Nate!
I’m sure you have thought of it.
Power outage, the electromagnetic lock doesn’t lock.
Is it manually lockable?
I’m always thinking about SHTF
Love your videos. Love your wisdom.
Love what you stand for.
Hi mag lock power supply units have a battery backup for power outages 😊
Always nice to see Ken pop up in the videos
I love watching your channel. I dont weld ....yet. but i did buy one to start learning. What I enjoy most is the sheer knowledge of so many aspects of building that you have acquired. I too am 65 years young and have learned many trades. From construction to running a 4 color printing press,sheet fed to owning a floor covering business to meat cutter for The Kroger company for 12 years. My sister asked me once how I knew how to do so many things. My reply was I've had too many jobs..lol Cant wait to see the gate in place!
The good lord brings people together in their lives just exactly in the way it should happen and these two (Ken and Scott) have intersected for one another it seems at just the right time in their lives. Good stuff. Love the EC universe and have learned tons from this channel. That home building series should be in Vo Techs across the nation for the development if the next generation of Tradespeople. "Real world" examples of the approach, mind set and application of skills necessary to succeed in the trades. I Love what your doing!!
2:11 Yes, welding stresses are enormous.
Loving watching this project progress.
Super cool! I drive by your place every day and always look for the new gate. Figured it'd be something ornate.
As a welder I always raise my gates a little out of Level as well. Injoying the Serious
Sounds like a nice heavy rain in the background... aka, a nice day for a nap... Good on our essential craftsman, for being productive.
What a great gate!!!
I've been gathering materials and equipment to do a 24' heavy duty cantilever gate. Got an old Lincoln Diesel stick welder, the better HF stick welder, and the better HF Mig. Also got a Slugger mag drill. Just need/want a plasma. But most of all? Need the fraken skills lol. We'll see if I can develop some in the process. Probably will start with some heavy duty horses.
Great series on the gate. Have you though about putting a single large caster on the bottom side opposite the hinge? It would support the gate and eliminate the sag issue.
I bought my MM210 in 2004. It is a workhorse. That said, I still have my old Miller Model 250 stick machine.
I like to weld a gate in place, starting with the hinge side and then put in my main horizontal pieces and latch side pieces with preloading in mind and the latch side temp welded into place.
When the gate is done.
Cut the temporary supports off the latch side.
probably been mentioned already but ill mention it again, did you consider that the seam in the box tubing is visible once painted? this usually makes or breaks a good looking project, I usually face to the most least viewed position.
I’m an ole structural stick welder! I know what you mean when you say going from mig to stick kinda sucks lol I enjoy stick welding! But you can beat the quickness of wire feed, keep up the good work
Journeyman Metal Fabricator here, really appreciate your videos. From what I was taught a down hand MIG weld may be strong enough for your application of the technique here but it should be noted that it is not as strong as a weld performed in the flat position. The depth of penetration into the base material will be reduced for a downhand weld as compared to other positions.
A double gate design would have been my choice. Electric over hydraulic cylinders to open, close and lock the gates.. adjustable hinges for tweaking the fit year to year. Sounds more complicated, and it is somewhat but reliable. I have clients with gates like I describe and they work flawlessly, smooth and very secure. A couple are kits you install on your gate(s) and are not cheap but one is homemade with hydraulic cylinders from a tractor, a pump(s) and from a dump trailer! It works the smoothest of them all and is 20 years old now just having its paint removed recently and resprayed professionally. Mind you the owner is also the owner of a large agricultural equipment dealership. Think Orange!
Really nice gate and design you have and I look forward to the sun setting through it on day.....and you Sir in a suit of Armour standing guard!
Cheers 🇨🇦
There are a lot of times when I would really like to see pictures in the comments on UA-cam, they say that a picture is worth a thousand words and it helps to understand when you can see the actual parts of what the subject is. In your comment I’d like to see how you make an adjustable hinge, but there are a ton of other ones also. Just a casual comment, I’m not really picking on anything in particular.
I would like to see your homemade setup though. Lol
@Hoaxer51 it's about 50 kms from my shop but I do get called up there still for work. I can take a few photos and send you a link to them. I too wish commenter could post photos but links work.
@Hoaxer51 an adjustable hinges is one that is bolted to the upright post instead of welded. You can then adjust the hinge by turning the bolts in or out. When you oil the hinges yearly, you oil the bolts as well to keep them free for adjustment.
I'm retired from residential construction and renovation, and I still work from time to time looking after properties for those who can afford to have an old guy looking after their properties!! Cheers 🇨🇦
@@jamesmisener3006, Yes, I’d like to see some pictures if it’s not too much trouble. I read your post about the adjustable hinges, having bolts with an offset head makes a lot of sense. I’m a retired mason and my body is to beat up to work a real job but I get out in my shop 3-4 times a week and do all my tinkering around.
I get to go at my own speed out there so it’s still fun!
Yes, the chlorinated solvents when heated make phosgene. Not a nerve gas but definitely a chemical warfare agent - it kills through pulmonary edema. Good call-out to avoid it. Though welding makes so many kinds of horrible fumes in general that I'd recommend respiratory equipment in all cases.
Regarding cleaning steel tubing - Except for the coldest months - It's a lot of work but - I fill a wheelbarrow ( because it's big ) with soapy water and using extra coarse stainless steel wool I scrub my steel tubing completely clean and rinse it off. I then lay it all in the sun to dry as quickly as possible.
It makes everything soooo much easier especially when it's time for painting.
Great work! Downhill MIG is fine for the application of your gate, but uphill MIG actually penetrates deeper and is quite a bit stronger.
Well, that is a strong gate
Nice safety note about the chlorinated brake cleaner. Just a heads up, Phosgene commonly regarded as a Choking Agent in warfare, not a Nerve Agent. It isn't an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor like organic pesticides.
Nothing more humbling than a Green & Green Master Craftsman Kenny, prising his right hand open to shake your hand.
A great series. I watched it all. Really entertaining, makes me sort of miss the job site. Sort of.
Hey Scott,
What an enjoyable video. Love your honesty and integrity. You are someone who has inspired me to become a better person, professionally and personally.
Thank you for sharing your experience.
And glad you are wearing your og black carhartt work jacket.
Stay safe ,
Your Canadian subscriber from Montreal
Dirk
So impressive!!!
Great job. Thank you 😊
I can't wait till the gate is finished.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for the awesome content and great videos!!
Just found your channel, and enjoy it very much. I am on the craftsman journey, Sheet Metalshaping and fabrication. I love building things and the mindset behind craftsmanship.
Very nice SCOTT! Totally agree with racking that gate to “preload” it for sagging with that length. Love the Miller 210.paid not much more that you did for your used machine, new over 22 years ago. This past summer, my board went out. Tried all the other fixes, convinced it’s the board. Been using a 211, til I get the 210 back to service.
Keep these videos going!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Looks to be a stout gate.
15 years experience installing,repairing/adjusting. I would have went from 5/16 to a minimum of 3/4.
Always fighting gravity and arm-angle (probably not the correct term.
I fought back with hinge post leaning away,gate out of square,hinges spread as far apart as possible and $$$ adjustable hinges.
Typically manufactured gates call for 2in clearance on both ends.
Post ,and gates will all fatigue ..and hinges will wear.
Your hinge post is definitely strong enough.
Good adjustable bolt-on hinges will run $300 + per pair.
Good luck!
Love this guy ❤
Fantastic video as usual 👏 thanks for sharing 👍. Not sure if more people will agree with me but I think your might settings might be a little bit off?
Everything hinges on good planning and measuring. 😊
Great video
Have loved the channel for years! Thank you for your dedication. Just curious. Seeing the size of that gate, from the outside looking in through your videos, those hinges seem to be on the smaller side. I’m sure they are rated for a significant amount, however, after opening and closing several hundred/ thousands of times, is there any concern that having only two of them will wear prematurely. Definitely not coming across disrespectful, just curious. Cheers
Scott you should avoid welding perpendicular across square tubing in general. It concentrates strain there and will eventually create a fatigue failure. If possible always try to go at a diagonal or parallel. I don't think it's a problem on your gate but if you build anything for machinery you definitely want to avoid that.
Good episode
I thought the gate was split and opened from both sides down the middle.... I would've though you'd do it this way so you didn't have to be so far away from the gate when opening it.... but I'm guessing it will open inward towards the house and you'll have a remote switch in the car, house, and maybe even outside near where you park so it can be open by the time you get to it... and coming in off the road you can be right near the gate (as a guest) to buzz the intercom or whatever system you have for surprise guests....
This is a pretty sweet setup EC!!! :) GREAT JOB!
What are you trying to stop, a Mac truck?
If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing! 😁
The makeup will always get through.
Barbarian hordes I would guess.
Wranglerstar-esque
A wheel attached at the bottom, opposite of the gate hinges, could also be a fix to the whole “gravity will flex the steel a bit” fact
Surprised you dint add at leaset a 3rd hinge about 30% down from the top. None the less its a great job, good work.
A true jack of all trades haha nice -welder
I figured you just gave up on the gate idea and just didn't need it.... lol
I was wondering when you were gonna put the next episode out.... I REALLY figured you were gonna release a few videos about the design and building of the gate itself while the winter cold made it a bit difficult to work outside..... but then I realized you live in the Pac-NW and you don't seem to know how snow works and just never let all that rain freeze.... so maybe I had just missed it... but I DIDN'T!!! HOORAY!
Okay, on with the video!! :)
EC is like a dog with a bone.
Never gives up.
It would sure be nice if you could powder coat the gate (if a structure that size is even possible, except in commercial settings) and not have to do the scraping and painting maintenance as you continue to age. Thanks.
Grinders and paint make me the welder I ain't.
Acetone is a great option to prep steel for welding
I'm guessing you have the ace up your sleeve? If need be you can flame straighten or bend between welds or fixed points.
You could contact Steve Watkins. He’s a UA-camr who mostly shows his adventures in rebuilding vintage (non-CNC) machine tools. But one of his day jobs is servicing gates like yours. He’s in his early 70s, & has seen and fixed power gate problems for years. He may be able to save you some future aggravation.
Idk if you read comments, but could y'all do a blue shirt with the American flag anvil? I bought a white shirt and hoodie In the past but the white gets dirty so fast I'm always avoiding wearing them even though it's my favorite shirt and hoodie. I like the light blue color but the American flag theme logo is just awesome!
I worked in a business in which "racking" a door or gate was common.
More art than science and usually takes more than one try.
Never mind all the quality work and multi/cross-discipline skills. Where do you find the time sir?
Great work. Will the welds be pacified??
curious to see your gate operator choice, I know what I would choose, based on the length and the weight of the gate, it will have a tough time on windy days, please don't use liftmaster, they are 60% of my service calls and constantly breaking down. I really hope you are doing a pad mount operator and not an actuator arm. I wish I was there to help you on this project, would be fun to work with you on it.
Great work but what I find amazing is that people think they can't calculate things like the dimensions of the box section for strength and deflection. It's all do-able. That's the difference between engineering and trial-and-error. Simple designs can be hand-calculated. Something like this you would probably need a CAD model and something like Solidworks to do the FEA analysis.
Zombie deer apocalypse gate...I like it.
Wow that gate looks heavy - I presume the hinge specs say they can handle at least 20% more weight?
Does the gate have to be bulletproof?
Even your buddy Ken scratching his head
welding always shrinks...or pullls:)
Maybe my thoughts are going the wrong direction, I am missing something or maybe you made a weird choice which part of the hinge to put on which part of the gate.
Looks to me like you put the barrel with the pin onto the gate, so the barrel has to go onto the column, with the pivot/pin on the gate pointing down.
I wonder if that might not cause problems in the long run, as water will ingress no matter what, and this way the water will be trapped in the barrel, unless the barrel is open on both ends, which those don´t really look like.
I would have put the pin on the column and the barrel on the gate, as that way, at least with most of the hinges I know, any water would just run down the pin and the outside of the barrel, but nothing can get into the barell part that is formed like a cup
Don't know much about fabrication, though it feels like it should be easier and less prone to having the gate sag if you split it into two gates having hinges on each side?
glad.i ve finished my gate last year..plus 16 pannels for the fence..burning eyes sensation for like 3 nights...that was a nasty experience..
Did you use a proper welding mask properly?
@@jwiereng i was the one holding the pieces..you get caught by the flame
You can run plenty of rods downhill. 6010/6011 rods work well downhill.
6011 would just make a mess even if you used anti-spatter spray, being an AC rod doesn't help either.
Great work please wear safety glasses while welding
Racking it a quarter inch to 5/16th is necessary. A gate that heavy will sag. Ask me how I know. 😅
"We have an active shooter at gate seven."
That is one stout gate... Hope the hinges are up to the task. Will there be a way to keep them lubricated once in place?
That style usually has a grease zerk and has a bearing ball inside to reduce friction.
Do you need welder on the group?
Phosgene develops @ 350 degrees Fahrenheit = Military Grade W.M.D.
Keep the grand kids away. That’s going to be a lot of swinging mass once it’s moving. The sketches and design are cool, but dang that’s going to be heavy.
Hi Scott! If your terrain preempts a tracked gate, and you are asking a lot of the hinge pins being a heavy gate, keep an open mind to the possibility of installing a swivel caster to offset the hanging weight... I do not recommend relying on shrinkage in the heat affected zones to offset gravity, it is wise to consider it in the design but stress on stress results in cracked welds over time. Keep up the good work!!!
Argon doesn't combine with anything, especially brake cleaner. It is a Noble gas and unreactive.
More likely you are using a mixture of argon and CO2 or just CO2 IIRC
Look like your welder wire speed was set too high, the sound when you weld does not sound right.
So gate will keep cars out but not people?
Most thieves are lazy.
That's a lot of weight.
You definitely do not have your wire speed adjusted correctly. A simple trick to use is the sound. It should be smooth. No popping. Take some scrap and adjust the wire speed until the popping goes away. You will be happier with your welds.
The only way that gate is gonna sag is when the hinges wear.......in about 23 years time.
Unfortunately with today's times . Physical security is becoming more and more important .
That fence and gate is going to be nice to have .
Little bit light on content. Smells like a new strategy for the channel. Hopefully it does well for you.
Nah come on man, lots of downhill stick welding Wadsworth
It’s a breath of fresh air to have the old man back as the narrator. I just about unsubscribe every time they want me to sit through Nate’s spiel
That was a awful weld bead on that hinge
Elephant cage? Very nice explanation for the steps and work and ethics involved. You have a great mentor watching your every move with Ken.
Watching this gate project unfold is more suspenseful than a soap opera...will it swing or will it swagger? Stay tuned! 😄