Kupe | Voyaging by the Stars
Вставка
- Опубліковано 2 сер 2017
- In the Māori mythology of some tribes, Kupe (10th century) was involved in the Polynesian discovery of New Zealand.Contention[edit]
There is contention concerning the status of Kupe. The contention turns on the authenticity of later versions of the legends, the so-called 'orthodox' versions closely associated with S. Percy Smith and Hoani Te Whatahoro Jury. Unlike the attested tribal traditions about Kupe recorded before Smith and Jury, the orthodox version is precise in terms of dates and in offering placenames in Polynesia where Kupe is supposed to have lived or departed from. The orthodox version also places Kupe hundreds of years before the arrival of the other founding canoes, whereas in the earlier traditions, Kupe is most definitely contemporary with those canoes (Simmons 1976). In addition, according to legends of the Whanganui and Taranaki regions Kupe was a contemporary of Turi of the Aotea canoe. In other traditions, Kupe arrived around the year 1400 on other canoes, including Tainui and Tākitimu (Simmons 1976:20-25).
Stephenson Percy Smith, 1905[1]
The orthodox version[edit]
In the "orthodox" version, Kupe was a great chief of Hawaiki who arrived in New Zealand in 925 AD. He left his cousin Hoturapa to drown during a fishing expedition and kidnapped his wife, Kuramarotini, with whom he fled in her great canoe Matawhourua. During their subsequent journeys, they overcame numerous monsters and sea demons, including the great octopus named as Te Wheke-a-Muturangi, and discovered New Zealand. Returning to Hawaiki, Kupe told of his adventures and convinced others to migrate with him (Craig 1989:127; see also External links below).
David Simmons said "A search for the sources of what I now call 'The Great New Zealand Myth' of Kupe, Toi and the Fleet, had surprising results. In this form they did not exist in the old manuscripts nor in the whaikorero[2] of learned men. Bits and pieces there were. Kupe was and is known, in the traditions of the Hokianga, Waikato, East Coast and South Island: but the genealogies given did not tally with those given by S. Percy Smith. The stories given by Smith were a mixture of differing tribal tradition. In other words the whole tradition as given by Smith was pakeha, not Maori. Similarly, the story of Toi and Whatonga and the canoe race leading to settlement in New Zealand could not be authenticated except from the one man who gave it to Percy Smith. Learned men of the same tribe make no mention of this story and there are no waiata[3] celebrating their deeds. Tribal origin canoes are well known to the tribes belonging to them: but none of them talk as Smith did of six large sea-going canoes setting out together from Raiatea. The Great New Zealand Myth was just that". (Simmons 1977).
People don't even know about lumeria (Hawaiki/Hawaii) It was the tallest mountain on earth (Hawaikinui) until the underground volcanic channels burst and had sunken the main land... Hawaii then had less land mass so our original ancestors travelled and settled around the pacific and other places. That movement then created different Polynesian caultures etc... Ego/human nature creates division between us, people forget, in spirit we are all the same souls having a human experience... it's funny watching us fight , the lessons will be learnt in time ... Aroha Mai whanau 😇
To,correct the dialect of this dudes name kupe,,,,is referred by his immediate family group located on his island of residence is Mauke.the name he gave for his final,he's Marae is Rangi manuka,,,,
final resting place is called Akatokamanava,,,,this dudes dependence gain matrimonial control of most royally line pin thee Cooks group.its was this dudes recognisance of most of the Eastern pacific all the way to Antarctic ,,, this Ukes report to Raiatea councils of chiefs also commission to hunt for the rebellious clan of Matua,,,,utu revenge for the killing of chiefs at the sacraments assembly of ui,, hui nui.....on Raiatea...some escaped to Rapa Nui, thus the hunt continues on to the next generation the final conflict came to head on Rarotonga, know as the battle battle of Tumuutevaro varo,,, original name of Rarotonga.....don't e d here too conflict between rhe Tongans dynasty to controll past Mangaia,,,to which this mob was expell by Tangiia from Tahiti.....more from elders mouth reo...few left to tell...
Z
I remember a docco that stated star navigation actually came from the Asian Steppes, people from there migrated south along the asian coast and then out into the pacific, mixing with the peoples already there and bringing that tech to them. This enabled them to travel over the horizon to places like Hawaii and Easter Island....and Aotearoa. The same docco said that the Maori remained in communication with their home for about 400 years and then simply stopped building ocean going waka and were cut off, and started building massive coastal/river war waka instead (similar size to the Indonesian Moluccas...hundreds of warriors per boat/canoe).
Any links?
in new zealand maori we acknowledge that everything has a spirit and a link to a god from which everything is born. each has its own place in the universe and governs its own laws to keep the balance in nature. we maori as kaitiaki today also have a responsibility to pass on knowledge of karakia to the younger generation to keep them safe from the spirits and taniwha that are guarding tapu sites.
shhhhhhh
I brother. Its sucks in today's times how we have to work watching our on people destroy our motu an moana over slave labour. Every time I'm with papatuanuku I'm blessed with the spirits in the bush an the wairua of my tupuna its sad our population is withering away. gets looked down on all natives by government world wide
Tautoko
e
Thanks for this. 👍🇳🇿
Particularly fond of vintage footage
The origins story of Rata is Samoa.
Rata is a timber used to make Taiaha and Patu mere kotiate and wahaika
My tupuna did not arrive in aotearoa, because they didn't leave, much love arohanui. Aotearoa is the gateway to hawaiki, hawaiki is a central plain to heaven, no hell. Ataahua beautiful.
Adam and eve. fuck off
Hahaha
adam and eve?? lol bro your comment was relevant till you said that🤦🏾♂️
smell the bullshit
Interesting whakaaro.
Kia orana,thank you maata for sharing this with us ,very educational hope our young ones will carry our culture into the future and share this taonga with their tamariki also. Aroanui meitaki maata.
13:39 best part
shut
Bro😂😂😂
just seen my uncle and my aunty in this video
Best comment so far 👌
@ 6:07 the tone and structures sound so similar to a tagalog language. Strange but there are a lot of cognates within the austronesian language family.
Same language family bro :) Maori also have that Austronesian gene and language base.
@@ngatibroffessor1840 bruh... we closer cousins than lotta folks might think- Flips & other islanders. Yeah derz d never ending debate f us Flips r Asian/Islanders. Fact of d matter is, we both. Look @ not jus language but also r physical traits & lot of precolonial cultural ties we share, & of course lot of those still remain & surface today; i.e. tattoo styles and production, inhale when greeting (kiss) loved ones, fishing tools, & i think even some apparel- although we Flips ain't got lavalavas (least not that i kno)
@@ibattibat5580 Filipinos live on a Island? Its safe and correct to call them Islanders. We do share a common genetic history and language. However Polynesians have genetic admixtures from the Papuan element they encounted as they Island hopped towards and across the Pacific.
5:50 😂😂
• Kupe one of our fathers, teacher, who taught maori astrology , ship building , star compass for navigation, hes the frist entity to navigate the star system ,he come from hawaiki , Hawaiki is not a country or a continent ,its a spiritual Realm, in european or biblical Terms, its Like heaven , Maori have lived in New Zealand since the beginning ,the proof is in the maori (waka)boats that were built, and the materials used to create the first seafaring vessels(waka) carved from a New Zealand's native tree ,the sails (te ra)woven of Flaxs (harakeke) the art of weaving was gift ,taught to maori by the (patupaiarehe)who also show maori kites ,fishing nets,agriculture and many more teachings were pass down from supernatural entity's(patupaiarehe). European have made up their own history ,about maori ,arrived in New Zealand's, 700, to 1000 years, which is a lie, Our (whakapapa) is proof of heritage, even the teachings of how the universe begins, these are keys to unlock creation its self. and its all starts with( te kore )or also known as the perantless one (te po) the darkness
Matariki?
Beautiful 🙏
4:00 Descendants of kupe..
Gttgggtgf
Llllll
At least u got that right😝😜😛
Nimrod films isn't that a Egyptian god
i think with all civilisations we have our own myths and legends of gods of each element. also we have evidence of fairys and giants. also we all should have encountered several ancient civilisations that left evidence of thier visit. and also have some oral history of being visited from aliens from outer space. and we maori from new zealand have all this. im sure also that we had the knowledge of every other civilisation on earth. and we settled this country for its uniqe geographical position that would allow us to be undisturbed for so long.
Yes the original place of creation started in Aotearoa, the first ancestors had children who then ventured around the world and taught there teaching, the first mountains, trees, birds etc had kids which are mountains, and trees around the world etc. The 12 heavens are stages of creation etc.
says also we have evidence of fairys and giants.
REPLY: Rubbish conspiracy theory. Fancy a Maori buying into that bullshit. Go ahead bro and site your sources and I bet they lead to Martin doutre Noel Hilliam and that rubbish Skeletons In the Closet. Google Martin Doutre Holocaust Denier.
Zero evidence support your claims dude...or lets see them?
@@jt9564 LOL WTF
Kupe was born in the Aotearoa
No he wasn't he was born in ra'iatea tahiti
Klapzie the NZ Māori people are descendants of Kupe but he was born in Raiatea
Hori FX no he was from raiatea who travelled through Rarotonga to Aotearoa
@@dukeofdank4077 I swear these people are thick as pig shit.
e
Why e
thats not e
this
is
e
E
e
e
spam e
The Subtitles are TEKO 👎🏽🙄
Kupe was from the maori people
No he was from the Ra'iatea people his descendants became maori
@@dukeofdank4077 💯
Hawai'i Been Da Begining Of All Polynesia!!! Yet All Us Polyz R From Da NAPHTALI TRIBE From JERUSALEM!!!
References?
Tee...Go Search 4 Urself, I Had2! Y Shud I Make Ur Knowledge EZ By My Hard Researching Of My BloodLine...
Pirihira kayy...Search 4 Ur Own Knowledge 2 Know My Heritage! I Will Not Make It EZ 4U 2 Get My Knowledge WitOut U Putting In Any HardWork Resaerching...
Tee... Ayo' Ill Answer U, If U Wud Answer Me, Wat Is Ur BloodLine&Nationality???
when you spell words incorrectly it makes it hard to believe
There has been a lot of misinformed and restructured info that has been structured to suit certain iwis and cultures in relations to land/shares/finances, there are iwis and cultures benefiting in large Amount of finances whilst the rest of us struggle, that's not our Devine fathers wishes!!!
you need to hustle if your struggling
shut the hell up LOL
@@hbmcgregor I'm not struggling, just stating facts.
@@mb68nz35 ko wai tō iwi ehoa?
@@jt9564 says structured to suit certain iwis and cultures in relations to land/shares/finances
REPLY: validate your claim with a citation or are you offering an unsupported opinion?