Scoped Rifles: The British actually tested a scope on a "rifle" in 1840... it was successful but the British deemed it (like many other things) "Un-Gentleman like". The guy who designed it (Chapman) moved to America and sold it to USA patents.
Seems like Lauri Tõrni joined whichever force that would fight against Soviet. Joining both the nazis and the Americans he seemed to do it solely to fight the Soviets. "enemy of my enemy" through and through
He realized that he wasn't a man built for peace so he went where he could delete some more soviets. He didn't give a crap about politics, just turning soviet soldiers into soviet statistics.
Correction: Finland didn't advance as far as their original border. They absolutely did conquer a sizeable bit of Russia as well, but they refused to go too far, irritating Hitler.
There is whats been written and what actually happened. From my understanding the Fins ordered a full stop so the Germans wouldn't expect help or rescue for the 6th army in Stalingrad.
In the show ancient discoveries there was an episode where they explored the ancient worlds deceptions. One such tactic was in Egypt where one military force was trying to conquer the other but was severely undermanned and didn't stand a chance against the other group. So the leader of the smaller group was able to wrangle all the animals he could such as donkeys cattle horses and tie brush to their tails and made them circle around and make a dust cloud that was enabling them to see what was going on. When the greater military force saw that they fled thinking that there was a bigger army coming to defeat them.
You should talk about "the dai hong dan incident". Where in 2007, a north Korean cargo ship got hijacked by Somalian pirates. And a US warship came to the rescue after hearing their distress call. Fortunately, the NK sailors took the ship back after killing 2 of the baddies, and capturing 5 more. 3 of the sailors needed medical treatment, where US Navy medical personnel helped them. When the news spread around NK, they made a VERY RARE statement, PRAISING the US navy for answering the distress call for the their sailors. Worth talking about it. I'mma keep posting this comment until I get Simple History's attention! 😅😅 BREAKING NEWS: Simple History got back to me on Instagram DM, and they said they’ll do it!!!!
During the spy scare in the US Army, Gen. Bradley had also been arrested. He was quizzed on which city was the capital of Illinois. Bradley had correctly answered Springfield, but the questioner thought it was Chicago.
First British scopes used in WWI were from Germany. Germany needed rubber (which they couldn't get because of the blockade), and Britain needed scopes. Being friendly, combative, nations the two came to a deal in Switzerland.
The movie "The Man Who Never Was" takes some liberties with the Mincemeat deception but does a great job of telling the story. It is one of my favorite movies.
in vietnam, i think, the locals were fighting the americans and the americans were bombing bridges. so the locals made bridges UNDER the river, just a few centimeters. they could cross rivers, but the planes were unable to see the bridges
I have the book The Ghost Army of World War II. This is a wonderful book. It does in depth to what the Ghost Army did not only in England but on the European continent.
Lee-Enfield No 4 rifle in .303 British calibre, I was issued one after joining the Canadian Rangers. They were finally replaced with the Colt Canada C19, Finnish-designed Tikka T3 CTR bolt-action rifle modified for the Canadian Rangers. Though we have been trained to use every gun the Army uses. The Canadian Rangers role is Domestic operations; surveillance and sovereignty patrols, first response. Our rifle is protection from whatever, a nutcase, polar bears get to close, so we shoot a round to scare it off. lol. Yup.
Operation Grief is probably one of the most Interesting Stories I’ve ever Heard, I can only imagine how modern Militaries would Try to do something similar
May sound good on paper but i might be something that wears on you over time knowing why they were created in the first place. To me it'd be spooky to look at one in the middle of the night on the way back from the bathroom :)
27:27 The battle of the bulge... it is rumored that to this very day Americans are still fighting this battle... especially Americans over 40 years of age... (I know, I am one of them...) (Edit: Time stamp correction)
"WW1 "unofficial" anti - sniper measures" also included British Army officers disguising themselves as low ranking, rifle carrying, ordinary soldiers or even sappers while serving at the front. This early initiative eventualy morphed into today's "official combats", a complete suite of clothing, protective meaasures, etc. worn by all to help minimize casualties.
35:20 Likely would've worked without all the vehicles. Needed to just have skirmish teams in groups of 5 or up to 12 men. Have jeeps or other trucks try to drive most of the men, to a dismount point and have them infiltrate on foot. The jeeps an trucks after the dismount point could take a team of 5 an go further on to other points. Skirmish teams could operate more effectively an quietly and move quickly from point to point, an if neccessary "Acquire" what they need along the way, an when their mission is deemed over they may try to blend in later on with civilians and retreat back, or act like awols if caught of either military, or crazed..
Although it feels that way, the warriors positions got the most glory, respect, promotions, and medals. On the positive side, the non-combatants had a much higher likelihood of surviving the war...
You can't be AWOL if you have leave. AWOL stands for Absent With Out Leave. Meaning you have left your unit without permission. It sounds like he was granted leave to return home, but chose to remain with his unit after his recovery. If he had been ordered to return home, he may have been in violation of his orders, but he could not be AWOL for two reasons. First, he had leave, and the other, he was not absent. If it were a thing he could be PWL, Present with leave. Depending on policies and regulations a solder may refuse to take leave, but me may also get into trouble. If circumstances dictate, the solder may refuse leave, at least until the current circumstances change. This is what happened in the movie Saving Private Ryan. Captain Miller and his men were ordered to find Private Ryan and return him to a place where he could be sent home. When Miller and his men finally find Ryan, he is part of a unit tasked with holding a certain town against an imminent German attack, because Ryan believes he will be able to make a difference in said attack. At this point Captain Miller could have disagreed and ORDERED Ryan to leave. Or he could agree and Miller and his men would join in the defense of the town.
In ww2, even though the Whermacht were developing jets, rockets, they were still one of the least mechanized armies, still heavily dependant on horses!
Perhaps a little known fact the first foreign fighers in the second Indo-China war known as Vietnam were not Americans or French but ANZACS or the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps . This was largely a civil war between North and South Vietnam which quickly escallated into an international incident . Just before the Americans arrived the ANZAC were pulling out . The UK weren't directly involved but they did take in refugees known as "Boat People " since most arrived on boats or ships .
@@AtSafeDistance During the Korean war a few years before Vietnam all kinds of soldiers were involved including the UK and especially Sergeant Big Bill Speakman - Pitt who with a few men held off a Chinese regiment with a few grenades , potatoes , tins of pilchards and beer bottles until reinforcements arrived . Sergeant Speakman - Pitt earned a Victoria Cross (VC) the highest British military medal for his efforts .
In fact, the Aussie drip rifle was eventually made much more sophisticated than your depiction. When the ANZAC's were transferred to Europe, they made "sentry guns" that had a proper clock-work escapement running the trigger. They have a full sized model of the repeating version of it that the men developed, at the Australian War Memorial Museum, Canberra. . The rifle sat in a shaped container that the soldiers called "The saddle" and when it fired, the recoil rocked the rifle around in the "saddle" which worked the bolt, and chambered another round. The purpose was to make the trench look like it was fully manned, and to attract the fire of fixed guns and the like. The Aussies also dealt with the enemy machine gunning their trench at night time. They set up theodolites looking down periscopes, which enabled them to watch and mark exactly where machine guns were set by looking at night time, and spotting the muzzle flash. This would give them exact bearings for the distance and angle . All the forces did this, and then called in Arty but the germans would simply disappear into their bunkers when the arty started. The aussies used the exact bearings for the distance and angle a different way, they would go carefully along the trench and lay sand-bag embrasures with the correct angle and elevation calculated for each man. Then when the machinegun would start firing, they would wait for the pause when its ammo ran out, and in that instant all along the trench men would leap up, fire one shot down the calculated line, and drop back into the trench. The germans got the message and stopped bothering the Aussies at night. .
"Финляндия продвигалась только до тех территорий которые она потеряла". Что финские войска делали в Петрозаводске? Расстреливали людей вышедших на улицу после 9 вечера?
These area's where traditional finnish speaking area's and the finnish army came to protect the finnish speakers, being russian you understand protecting native speakers of your language 😂
I don't buy the argument that he knew nothing about the ss oath he swore to. All the Germans and Fins serving were nazis and those in the ss were given no excuses before the Hague. He loved killing and was good at it and therefore did whatecver he could to continue. And remember, the fins and Americans invaded the Soviet Union before as well.
He’s not knocking those jobs. But when you’re a soldier with that type of experience, not being able to find any other job except those, which anyone can get, feels like a “reduction”. I guess if you’ve never sworn an oath like that you can’t understand that.
"Back there I could fly a gunship, I could drive a tank, I was in charge of million dollar equipment, back here I can't even hold a job *parking cars*"
Scoped Rifles: The British actually tested a scope on a "rifle" in 1840... it was successful but the British deemed it (like many other things) "Un-Gentleman like". The guy who designed it (Chapman) moved to America and sold it to USA patents.
America ain't giving up a chance to win war
Any man who says he's gentle isn't so
@@reycesarcarino4653 man? I'm an UH-60 Blackhawk utilitary helicopter, I request permission to land at Atlanta Airfield.
@@Account_abandoned-q7m Black Hawk Down 👇 😂
@@reycesarcarino4653 ? Attack the d point
11:04 Friendly shrapnel mine; remember, kids, once Mr. Mine is armed, he's no longer our friend.
Seems like Lauri Tõrni joined whichever force that would fight against Soviet.
Joining both the nazis and the Americans he seemed to do it solely to fight the Soviets. "enemy of my enemy" through and through
Donnie still loves vladdy
He realized that he wasn't a man built for peace so he went where he could delete some more soviets.
He didn't give a crap about politics, just turning soviet soldiers into soviet statistics.
Correction: Finland didn't advance as far as their original border. They absolutely did conquer a sizeable bit of Russia as well, but they refused to go too far, irritating Hitler.
There is whats been written and what actually happened.
From my understanding the Fins ordered a full stop so the Germans wouldn't expect help or rescue for the 6th army in Stalingrad.
In the show ancient discoveries there was an episode where they explored the ancient worlds deceptions. One such tactic was in Egypt where one military force was trying to conquer the other but was severely undermanned and didn't stand a chance against the other group. So the leader of the smaller group was able to wrangle all the animals he could such as donkeys cattle horses and tie brush to their tails and made them circle around and make a dust cloud that was enabling them to see what was going on. When the greater military force saw that they fled thinking that there was a bigger army coming to defeat them.
"Deceiving deceptions."
Edit: They changed the title.
Deceivingly deceptive, isn't it? 😏
Ain't never deceived deception most bestly ever once.
I was broke and I had no money....
Ain't no way he just repost the video😂
@@christianJ8869
. . . so broke, I couldn't pay attention! 😩
"All warfare is based on deception."
-Sun Tzu
"AMBATUKAM"
- Dreamy Bull
"Allahu Akbar"
-Some guy
it's SUN TUH'ZOO! SUN TUH'ZOO! The Chinese Prince Machabelli!
@@mortache Some guy's last words! 👻
All warfare is based
-Sun Tzu
You should talk about "the dai hong dan incident". Where in 2007, a north Korean cargo ship got hijacked by Somalian pirates. And a US warship came to the rescue after hearing their distress call. Fortunately, the NK sailors took the ship back after killing 2 of the baddies, and capturing 5 more. 3 of the sailors needed medical treatment, where US Navy medical personnel helped them. When the news spread around NK, they made a VERY RARE statement, PRAISING the US navy for answering the distress call for the their sailors. Worth talking about it.
I'mma keep posting this comment until I get Simple History's attention! 😅😅
BREAKING NEWS: Simple History got back to me on Instagram DM, and they said they’ll do it!!!!
As an UH-60 Blackhawk, shut up
@@Account_abandoned-q7m no!
@@OfficialA.D. attack the d point
@@Account_abandoned-q7m What???
Warthunder reference. It's a game about capturing points. The D point existed in some gamemode in the past, and is now a joke. @@OfficialA.D.
Escaping with no one dying, yup that’s worth a medal
Washington would be proud.
These inventions are truly genius. And as for the Finnish soldier who fought in three armies, I’m surprised he isn’t more well known
He is, lots of great youtube videos about him
Check out Johnny "two gun" Hart(e). Tarantino would be the best person to make a biopic of him.
Sabaton has a song about him “Soldier of three Armies”
During the spy scare in the US Army, Gen. Bradley had also been arrested. He was quizzed on which city was the capital of Illinois. Bradley had correctly answered Springfield, but the questioner thought it was Chicago.
Man, Larry Alan Throne was an absolute soldier, man it sucks he went out that way
Part of me thinks he survived😭 I wonder if they found his dog tags on some bones or if they did dental records / DNA.
@@Mfrasier88 well if he did I hope he enjoyed his life! True soldier!
The only Waffen SS soldier buried in the Arlington National Cemetery. Funny how life works.
He went out with his boots on!
@@Mfrasier88they did in 1999.
First British scopes used in WWI were from Germany. Germany needed rubber (which they couldn't get because of the blockade), and Britain needed scopes. Being friendly, combative, nations the two came to a deal in Switzerland.
Still voting hard on a unit video on MACV-SOG the black ops unit in Nam
“Sir how will we beat the enemy?”
“Puppets.”
Thanks!
This was an amazing video I was hooked the entire time. Very well put together. Thanks!
“You should be ashamed of your military honor!” Theodore Roosevelt
Everyone knows you're back at home like "thank God for pearl harbor"
Deception has a very long history in warfare. It is very important! Many nations have used it. I particularly admire the British use of it!
The movie "The Man Who Never Was" takes some liberties with the Mincemeat deception but does a great job of telling the story. It is one of my favorite movies.
Jayne : Not as deceiving as a low down, dirty... deceiver.
Mal : Well said. Wasn't that well said, Zoë?
Zoë : It had a kinda poetry to it, sir.
Monty Python?
@@BrandonSLedford Firefly 😁
I seen these decoys on the Baltic sea coast in Latvia near Jurkalne in Soviet times. They been made of plywood ( howitzers and cannons).
in vietnam, i think, the locals were fighting the americans and the americans were bombing bridges.
so the locals made bridges UNDER the river, just a few centimeters.
they could cross rivers, but the planes were unable to see the bridges
"To trick your enemies you must first trick your allies "-Persona 5
There was a good movie in 1956 about Operation Mincemeat called,
"The Man Who Never Was"
I have the book The Ghost Army of World War II. This is a wonderful book. It does in depth to what the Ghost Army did not only in England but on the European continent.
Larry Thorne a True Soldier....Excelled in every Army he joined🥇
Lorni Torni was freedom loving, communist hating, badass. Apparently John Wayne's character in the movie "The Green Berets" was based on Torni.
I can't hear " Adolf Hitler " now without thinking " Commander of the Third Reich. Little known fact: Also dope on zhe mic "
Lee-Enfield No 4 rifle in .303 British calibre, I was issued one after joining the Canadian Rangers. They were finally replaced with the Colt Canada C19, Finnish-designed Tikka T3 CTR bolt-action rifle modified for the Canadian Rangers. Though we have been trained to use every gun the Army uses. The Canadian Rangers role is Domestic operations; surveillance and sovereignty patrols, first response. Our rifle is protection from whatever, a nutcase, polar bears get to close, so we shoot a round to scare it off. lol. Yup.
Nice
Operation Grief is probably one of the most Interesting Stories I’ve ever Heard, I can only imagine how modern Militaries would Try to do something similar
We have many cards up our sleeves. ± I'm an American U.S. Army Veteran. ±
OIF/OEF ²⁰⁰⁵
I have to say that this video 📹 is one of your best based on the videos content.
We trolling the opps wit dis one 🗣🗣
Larry Thorne: Some guys are just built differently.
The decoy heads would make nice wall decorations xD
May sound good on paper but i might be something that wears on you over time knowing why they were created in the first place. To me it'd be spooky to look at one in the middle of the night on the way back from the bathroom :)
This is the best UA-cam channel ever it is very very useful ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Excellent work dudes!!
27:27 The battle of the bulge... it is rumored that to this very day Americans are still fighting this battle... especially Americans over 40 years of age... (I know, I am one of them...) (Edit: Time stamp correction)
Wow, lining up the bullet holes to find the direction of the sniper is SUPER SMART o.o
"WW1 "unofficial" anti - sniper measures" also included British Army officers disguising themselves as low ranking, rifle carrying, ordinary soldiers or even sappers while serving at the front. This early initiative eventualy morphed into today's "official combats", a complete suite of clothing, protective meaasures, etc. worn by all to help minimize casualties.
Simple history pls respond I’ve been a fan for 5 years
Thank you for your dedication! We really do appreciate it!♥
In your opinion, for the last two years, they haven't uploaded only the previous videos with some edit?
😞
@9:34 - you cannot promote a first lieutenant to a second lieutenant. Thats a demotion. A first lieutenant outranks a second lieutenant
Unless you're Kim Jon Un
I believe he meant Senior Lieutenant.
Best thumbnal
35:20
Likely would've worked without all the vehicles. Needed to just have skirmish teams in groups of 5 or up to 12 men. Have jeeps or other trucks try to drive most of the men, to a dismount point and have them infiltrate on foot. The jeeps an trucks after the dismount point could take a team of 5 an go further on to other points. Skirmish teams could operate more effectively an quietly and move quickly from point to point, an if neccessary "Acquire" what they need along the way, an when their mission is deemed over they may try to blend in later on with civilians and retreat back, or act like awols if caught of either military, or crazed..
Theatricality and deception are powerful agents to the uninitiated
how the sniper was invented:
“hey lets add the metal tube with some glass to this rifle”
True
Fetch me that looking glass 😂
38:57
dude, that smile...
Now war is getting harder and harder to do stuff like this to much cameras and technology
4:17 imagine being killed by no one
Theres a prob that one of those soldiers got killid by one of those auto shooting rifles
That would suck
I went to look at cells in Alcatraz, I saw one cell with a realistic head sticking out of a bed with probaly pillows for the body
The thumbnail alone made me laugh XD. And got me hooked too
Although it feels that way, the warriors positions got the most glory, respect, promotions, and medals. On the positive side, the non-combatants had a much higher likelihood of surviving the war...
Imagine getting killed by a drip rifle.
"All Warfare is based on deception." Art of War by Sun Tzu
They can definitely learn more about us and learn our language ,slang ,sports and actors
You can't be AWOL if you have leave. AWOL stands for Absent With Out Leave. Meaning you have left your unit without permission.
It sounds like he was granted leave to return home, but chose to remain with his unit after his recovery. If he had been ordered to return home, he may have been in violation of his orders, but he could not be AWOL for two reasons. First, he had leave, and the other, he was not absent. If it were a thing he could be PWL, Present with leave.
Depending on policies and regulations a solder may refuse to take leave, but me may also get into trouble. If circumstances dictate, the solder may refuse leave, at least until the current circumstances change.
This is what happened in the movie Saving Private Ryan. Captain Miller and his men were ordered to find Private Ryan and return him to a place where he could be sent home.
When Miller and his men finally find Ryan, he is part of a unit tasked with holding a certain town against an imminent German attack, because Ryan believes he will be able to make a difference in said attack.
At this point Captain Miller could have disagreed and ORDERED Ryan to leave. Or he could agree and Miller and his men would join in the defense of the town.
Amazing video as usual, keep it up! 👍
I think you have been following for three or four months, because there has been no new content from this channel for two years
In ww2, even though the Whermacht were developing jets, rockets, they were still one of the least mechanized armies, still heavily dependant on horses!
Blitzzz 🎉 36:47
Elvis ❤
Perhaps a little known fact the first foreign fighers in the second Indo-China war known as Vietnam were not Americans or French but ANZACS or the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps . This was largely a civil war between North and South Vietnam which quickly escallated into an international incident . Just before the Americans arrived the ANZAC were pulling out . The UK weren't directly involved but they did take in refugees known as "Boat People " since most arrived on boats or ships .
I remember learning that; though in todays world what I learned may not be any longer true.
@@AtSafeDistance During the Korean war a few years before Vietnam all kinds of soldiers were involved including the UK and especially Sergeant Big Bill Speakman - Pitt who with a few men held off a Chinese regiment with a few grenades , potatoes , tins of pilchards and beer bottles until reinforcements arrived . Sergeant Speakman - Pitt earned a Victoria Cross (VC) the highest British military medal for his efforts .
In fact, the Aussie drip rifle was eventually made much more sophisticated than your depiction. When the ANZAC's were transferred to Europe, they made "sentry guns" that had a proper clock-work escapement running the trigger. They have a full sized model of the repeating version of it that the men developed, at the Australian War Memorial Museum, Canberra. . The rifle sat in a shaped container that the soldiers called "The saddle" and when it fired, the recoil rocked the rifle around in the "saddle" which worked the bolt, and chambered another round.
The purpose was to make the trench look like it was fully manned, and to attract the fire of fixed guns and the like.
The Aussies also dealt with the enemy machine gunning their trench at night time. They set up theodolites looking down periscopes, which enabled them to watch and mark exactly where machine guns were set by looking at night time, and spotting the muzzle flash. This would give them exact bearings for the distance and angle .
All the forces did this, and then called in Arty but the germans would simply disappear into their bunkers when the arty started.
The aussies used the exact bearings for the distance and angle a different way, they would go carefully along the trench and lay sand-bag embrasures with the correct angle and elevation calculated for each man.
Then when the machinegun would start firing, they would wait for the pause when its ammo ran out, and in that instant all along the trench men would leap up, fire one shot down the calculated line, and drop back into the trench. The germans got the message and stopped bothering the Aussies at night.
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Russia is like a jilted lover who can’t take ‘no’ for an answer. Take a hint buddy, no one wants to be annexed by you.
russia is the bully of eastern europe
have you wondered why so many countries in eastern europe are so EAGER to join NATO?
"OP trees" sound almost too modern for that date
For the ad i just watched: No I will not sign your petition.
25:40 they might spot an arm poking out. 😳🙆🏼♂️🤣😂😂
What with the thumbnail😭
Basically how to troll your foes in war
The high stakes of trolling.
Jolly good content and narration!!! however, next time please please tone down the music: it was much too distracting.
Perhaps snipers should be banned in war, when in any area that non-aggressors might be wondering about.
"Финляндия продвигалась только до тех территорий которые она потеряла". Что финские войска делали в Петрозаводске? Расстреливали людей вышедших на улицу после 9 вечера?
These area's where traditional finnish speaking area's and the finnish army came to protect the finnish speakers, being russian you understand protecting native speakers of your language 😂
The most deceptive force usually wins
Can you do the USS Sangamon cve26 converted to oiler to an escort carrier
Seriously? That’s wild 0-0
I wonder if Larry Thorne is the only SS officer to be buried in Arlington ?
the thumbnail scared the living daylights out of me
27:52 wie bitte?
grandpa lore:
"I'm an OP-tree, yeah you know me"
I don't buy the argument that he knew nothing about the ss oath he swore to. All the Germans and Fins serving were nazis and those in the ss were given no excuses before the Hague. He loved killing and was good at it and therefore did whatecver he could to continue. And remember, the fins and Americans invaded the Soviet Union before as well.
Same here
Pfffffft
FACT 8 million horses where killed in WW1
The thumbnail 💀
Make a vid about ata island 1966 6 teens lived there
Japanese Sharpshooters probably the only thing in ruse art of deception Xbox 360 game PC
All warfare is based
-Sun Tzu
Man, i read "military decapitations"...
Is it weird that I read the title as “Deceiving Military Decepticons”?
This title is out of control 😂
Sad that Lauri wasnt brought to Finland
26:53 No matter who… that is some Titanium Balls, extra heavy and itchy.
“Dummy Head” 🥵
That's a belly flop that ya momma would feel!
nice, an overpowered trees
44:35 dusko popov u sure is fictional
Yo dawg, I heard you like deceptions😂
Decepticons
Bro should have crawled
Micheal may have had a sad life, but if only he could’ve known that even in death, he was a war hero. His body helped start Operation Mincemeat
Check out the movie "The Man Who Never Was" 1956
Deceit is the first step in war
You dont blow into a dummy heads cigarette tube, at least not untill you have inhaled a nice relaxing lungfull of smoke
Ikr? I mean, that's like "Smoking 101" material there! 🤦
american civil war had snipers.
WTF???? He was "REDUCED" to doing carpentry? And cleaning jobs? Like these are base employments? HOW DISRESPECTFUL to honest workers and honest work.
He’s not knocking those jobs. But when you’re a soldier with that type of experience, not being able to find any other job except those, which anyone can get, feels like a “reduction”. I guess if you’ve never sworn an oath like that you can’t understand that.
🙄
A soldier will often feel reduced when going back to civilian work. I know from personal experience.
"Back there I could fly a gunship, I could drive a tank, I was in charge of million dollar equipment, back here I can't even hold a job *parking cars*"
@@alericantonelli4656all the soldiers I knew felt like they were going onto bigger and better things in civilian life, me included.