Save your money. COACH Leather is BETTER than HERMES Leather. I said what I said. || Autumn Beckman
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Save your money. COACH Leather is BETTER than HERMES Leather. I said what I said. || Autumn Beckman
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YEEEES! Those of us who are familiar with Coach vintage KNEW!😂😜
This was SO well done, Autumn.👏🏽👏🏽 Thank you for allowing us to "geek out" along with you as you deep dive into all of this.
THOROUGHLY enjoyed this video!
Thank you, Alana. :)
"It's vintage Coach all the way baby." My feelings exactly! Have you watched Tanner Leatherstein's channel? He is a great source of info on leather as he takes apart all kinds of bags and explains the quality, cost per materials and more. He himself is a trained leather worker. Great video!
Yes, his channel is fabulous. :)
I truly appreciate the extensive research behind this video
Thank you. I appreciate that. :)
hermes is just marketing. my coach bags are way better than any of my new chanel bags. from the stitching to the leather texture its a 10 out of 10
Autumn, I love your chanel and your handbags. Don't take it personally, but I would like for you to experiment with your sunglasses. I think you would look amazing in a honey color shade.
"live your most luxurious life within your budget" now that's a great tag line Autumn👍 Appreciate that you had various leather examples to show us. Well done.
Thank you. :)
This is great knowledge to share! I'm hoping some of it sunk in as I'm painting our hallway!
😍 I see bags in this video that I don't think you have shown us before!!
I have soooo many bags I haven't shown you guys yet including nearly 100 Coach bags, most of which I purchased to use in my Coach video series, restore, then resell.
Thank you for the info! I learned a little about leather from a former boss I had. She knew her stuff! We worked in a store. Let’s say a woman came in with a leather jacket. I’d be all dreamy about it. She’d say “it’s junk leather”. Then she’d explain why. She taught me all about Coach and Dooney. This was way back in the early 90s. …….. Where I live now they had a tannery. It closed before I moved here. Apparently it had to shut down because they let all the leather dye go into the creek which lead to Lake Erie here in NYS. You hear endless stories about the tannery and the glue factory next to it. …… I have watched videos by a leather guy, can’t remember his name. He will take a purse apart, mostly high end, and explain if it’s quality or junk. Keep on teaching us! ❤️
As of late, the price of vintage Coach bags have sure sky rocketed. Wish I would have shopped them preloved several years ago! Informative video - thanks.
I saw that. I have some vintage coaches inherited and purchased for less than 100 a while back and now the price has tripled
Love all your videos, but this is by far my favorite one! Thank you for researching and sharing all of this great information!
Thank you. :)
Thank you so much. I love learning and appreciate all your hard work. ❤
Thank you. :)
I look forward to all your videos. I learn so much good info from you. Thanks for all your hard work. I'm a Coach girl and I miss them using the old gloved tanned leather.
Autumn, so glad your video popped up on my phone. Lost you shortly after your move to Oregon. I'm a handbag lover and really enjoyed this info, am also a vintage Coach fan.
"It's vintage Coach all the way baby!" Absolutely LOVE this and agree, Autumn! My vintage Coach bags don't compare to anything else I own. I would also love to know the process for glovetanned leather, especially how they did it in the past vs now. Maybe they will see this video and share some of the process with us all! 👀❤️❤️
That would be nice but I won't hold my breath. ;)
Great video Autumn! I will say the title had me 😆 As you say near the end there is so much out there about leathers and SO MANY types, it gets confusing! You learn so much when you make these kind of videos so thank you for sharing with us. Also, thank you for the kind shoutout to my video ☺
Thank you. :) The sentiment of the title is certainly debatable but makes sense to me in the context of how I explained it. Yes, I learned so much but there's still so much more to learn. Your Hermes leather video was fabulous. Very helpful.
Fantastic video Autumn! Sometimes the deeper we dive the more confusing it gets hahah. Really loved all the info in this video!
I'm geeking out on all this leather knowledge! I love my vintage Coach bag (and Coach in general). My ex husband bought it for me in 1987 and now it's vintage and just as gorgeous as ever!
I'm glad you're still enjoying it!
A wonderfully comprehensive video and another which needs to be kept by us all for future reference! Thank you for the video!
Thank you, Daniel. :)
Loved this! All the information you shared was so interesting. Answered many questions about leather I didn’t know I even had. Thank you
Same! Thank you. :)
I love your videos! I always learn so much!
Great to hear. Thank you. :)
I was told Coach's Gloved-Tanned leather is a special process that's similar to the process used in making and conditioning a baseball glove. Like a baseball glove, the leather gets softer and my flexible over time. This explains why vintage Coach bags hold such great leather qualties.
Yes, but what is that process? That's the million dollar question!
I’m a Coach stan, I shop at Coach Outlet once a month and the pebbled leather is sooooooo good and buttery
It is really lovely.
You put so much work in it! GREAT!!!!! 🙂👏
Yes, this is very informative! 😊. Thanks for the research!
Thank you. :)
I have a degree in fashion and just learned more in this video than 4 years in fashion school about leather.
Omg I was looking for a video like this
Glad I could be of service. ;)
LOVED this video,Autumn..it must have taken you a lot of time to research this,but it was absolutely worth it I think!🙏🏻🥰
Thank you so much for this great series. Appreciate it!
Thank you. :)
Great video Autumn! No one has ever been able to figure out what “glovetanned leather” actually is. I do remember reading long ago that Coach developed a technique to make leather goods with leather that will break in like a baseball glove, hence the term “glovetanned leather”.
Whew. I love your extensive reviews, the very best! Thank you very much! 🎉Bravo! 👏🏼👏🏼👍🏽
Thank you. :)
great video!! loved the info ty
Thank you. :)
Thank you Autumn. Fascinating. xxx
Another interesting and informative video, thanks Autumn 💕
Thank you. :)
Great video!!! Loved learning about leather!
Impeccable review: I agree 1000%- COACH has always been top tier literally especially the LEGACY collection- “Save those Coins Ladies” & pay for your leather bags that will last you for yrs to come- Hermes is not worth it unless u get every piece insured, & you don’t want bags you can’t enjoy but always have to baby❤
Love learning more and nerding out on this topic 😊
Glad you enjoyed. :)
Now that was an avalanche of info Ms. Beckman, you certainly did your research! Thank you for quite an educational vid.
Thank you. :)
Terrific and magnificent video! So educational. You are a terrific teacher ❤❤❤
Hey there, Autumn. Another master class video that I find very fascinating. Your teaching roots really shine in these videos. Thanks so much for sharing!
Thanks so much. :)
VERY informative…. Thank you 🙏!
I'm glad. Thank you. :)
Thank you, Autumn!
The information that you provided in this video is a great help. Thank you for sharing your knowledge👜
Wow! I recognise great teaching when I see it. Thank you.
Thank you. :)
Great video, Autumn! I learned a lot about the various kinds of leather watching your informative video. Thank you for all your research and explanations among the different types of leather. As for glove tanned leather, I think I read somewhere it was supposed to feel like a baseball glove or something alone those lines.
This was a great introduction to all the intricacies of leather. This took a lot of work to dig through all of the available information and to weed out a lot of the nonsense. It definitely shows in the quality of this video! Thank you so much for sharing this with us (and all the eyecandy) and have a lovely weekend!
Thank you. :)
Great video. Thank you for all your research.
Thank you. :)
What a wealth of knowledge! Great information. ❤
Thank you. :)
Great deep dive!
Thank you. :)
Thank you Professor Beckman, very informative and interesting video. Best, Jane
Thank you. :)
I think you just opened Pandora’s box on leathers! Great primer and such good information about a (maybe purposefully) confusing area. Vintage coach is seriously good leather.
It hadn't occurred to me that brands might make leather information purposefully confusing but it's a great point. It makes sense.
Great information. Love the history.
Thank you. :)
I had to catch up on some of your videos and this might be out of context for this video but I wanted to keep it in one comment.
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Your videos are always so relatable and I always need to tell myself to watch it until the end before rambling in the comments of things you might have missed because you're always so thorough with your research!! Box leather isn't actually exclusive to Hermès, Celine and Chloé, Dior have all used this in their collections. Another fun fact about the "graining" is that, natural grains are a result of the shrinking process when drying from the wet state, hence why the hide is also supple is the more it shrinks, the more it's scrunched up revealing the textural and characteristics of the skin. That is also why Box leather is so coveted because the skin has to be near blemish free during and post processing as each time it is 'ironed' the process has a chance to scuff, mark or unevenly colour the leather.
So another leather that wasn't mentioned by Hermès is the Barènia, which were used for their saddles, and their first ever leather was untreated, vegetable tanned calfskin leather produced in the town of Barr in the northeastern part of France, and the reason why it's called Barènia.
I think all leathers are now by-products due to the movement for fashion houses to achieve sustainability. Even with the exotics, which is why they have to all carry a CITES certification when sold to a consumer. At least, that's the goal of Animal welfare and ethics.
I love Loewe leathers, it is an understated brand that has been around as long as Hermès, and their leathers are also quite notably luxurious. Although they haven't branded their own leather yet, you can see that it's not a two minute craft.
Sorry about the long comment! But I didn't want to blow up your inbox with three posts, when you could get a big fat one per above. Your content is absolutely worth pouring your efforts into. Also to respond to the one about your family members/ close friends not understanding UA-cam as a full time career. Remember how long it took you to pick up something new, it's scary for them to open up to new ideas, give them time, they're no spring chicken anymore. As a teacher myself (in a past life) adults are the hardest to teach because they have so much going on there's hardly any space (and time) for them to give to learning anymore 🤥
Thank you for this. I appreciate the thoughtful responses.
Great and informative video.
Hello Autumn, thanks for making such great content. I don't really have a lot of luxury handbags but I do have a lot of fine jewellery pieces. I would love something like your handbag collection organizer but for jewellery. Is that something that you would do in the future? or would it be easy to adapt with your template? Just a thought I have each time you show your organizer promo.
I have that on my to do list as well as a few other things but likely won't release any new products until early fall because of things we have going on between then and now.
Thank you for sharing this is very good information. Do you have a recommendation for cleaning and conditioning product for leather and canvas handbags? Thank you
Not yet but I will soon. I'll be filming a video about that this weekend.
i so love this video, it is such a diverse world out there in terminology, but do they mean the same thing. fasinating a thousand thumbs up
Thank you. :)
Great informative video. I think Coach has fabulous leather and I have had every designer leather good. It certainly holds its own against the big boys! I love you Bonnie cashin bag you showed at the end. Definitely hard to find!
Thank you. I lucked out on finding that courier bag in such great shape but I also payed up for it. ;) It's my second most expensive (in terms of what I paid) Coach bag!
So informative. Thank you for all the research! I really enjoyed this leather education. And yes, there are a lot of unanswered questions and ambiguities (which is likely intentional on the part of various brands), but one thing is really clear to me after watching - it's no wonder that after becoming a huge fan of Coach glovetanned leather in the mid 1980s, and continuing to collect bags ever since, nothing has ever been as good, as beautiful or as durable for me as those original Coach bags.
Glad you enjoyed. Yes, Coach is fabulous. :)
Zermatt is brand name for tannery Hass, it is chrome tanned, semi aniline, corrected leather
Thanks!
Thank you. :) I appreciate that.
Love this ❤❤❤
This was super interesting! Thank you. Dooney and Bourke also advertises Saffiano leather. Did this kind of leather just become a common type as opposed to brand specific? Or are these companies related? I swear i have seen the term saffiano elsewhere😊. As always, fantastic info😀love your channel!
Prada is the one that made Saffiano leather famous. Not sure if they developed it or just used it first in handbags. I'm also not sure if they have a copyright on calling it Saffiano. I've seen similar leathers used by other brands but don't know if they can call it Saffiano. I haven't looked into that but it's a good question.
👋🏾👋🏿👋🏼Hey There Autumn, these videos are truly quenching my thirst to be educated about Coach and different types of leathers. Thank You. The video regarding different types of Hermes leather by Caleb Snow( I don't know if that is the last name)I know you said you would link it, but I don't see it, I would like to view it, Thanks Again😎
Here's Caleb's link. ua-cam.com/video/hu_o0loAnnY/v-deo.html
And thank you! :)
@@AutumnBeckman Oh No, Thank You🙏🏽😎
Another awesome video 😁
Thank you. :)
If I knew then what I know now I wish I had my original vintage coach bag from the late 70’s.
😊 I am totally a big fan of Coach Handbags/Backpack/some of their perfume.
I love the leather on my now vintage Coach bags. I also have bags of exotic skins which are very old.
Vintage Coach is beautiful!
Great informative video. Tfs😊
Thank you. :)
Excellent video - so much good info. I totally agree with you, I think Coach puts out some of the best leather on the market. But I do love the LV vachetta.
Thank you. :)
I didn't see the Caleb Snell link; did I miss it?
Thanks for pointing that out. I missed it but have added it now. ua-cam.com/video/hu_o0loAnnY/v-deo.html
I own both Hermes and Coach and I agree! I live in my couch bags tho I own Hermes bags. At the very least they are on par! Especially 90s to 2000s coach leather.
I think a lot of people would be surprised...except maybe people who are already familiar with vintage Coach leather. ;)
Autumn what is ur opinion about the dior scandal in italy?
Unfortunately, I'm not very surprised. It's awful, of course.
thank you So Much Autumn I think I get the new suede rouge 39 my SA said do get it as we can not clean it and I thing it most expensive rouge 39 it $1, 142 so we see what do you thinK? thanks for help Autumn
Is that the peanut color suede bag? I haven't seen it in person but the photos look beautiful. The rogue bags have been done in suede before. You might look at the preloved market to see what else is available and what the prices are before deciding which to purchase.
@@AutumnBeckman yes it the Peanut color thanks for help love all your Videos
"ALL Weather Leather" (AWL) by Dooney and Bourke, which was a very special naturally "shrunken" leather (same as Henry's). I'm not sure if their current AWL is processed exactly the same as it was decades ago, but it's still advertised as "shrunken" with an aniline finish.
I'll need to look into that more! Thanks. :)
Excellent video it answered a lot of questions I had. I was recently looking at FLORENTINE LEATHER by dooney and burke and pebbled leather, and they appear to be better leather than coach, but not that stylish plus the bags are heavier.
Their Florentine leather appears to be vegetable tanned and aniline dyed. Given the weight it might be full grain. It's beautiful.
@@AutumnBeckman thank you but the tanner leatherstein dude just tested a dooney and burke all weather leather bag and you would be shocked! I recently got a new bag and coin purse from that brand Now i need a florentine bag. 😃
I haven't seen it yet but let me guess...subpar leather base with heavy coating of pigment and plastic. That's how you'd make a leather "all weather."
@@AutumnBeckman Actually no, He was quite impressed and the torture he put that bag through was pretty amazing!
Cool video! I didn't quite catch, what *is* vachetta? I mean, what makes something 'vachetta'? Is it the way it is tanned?
I never got a super clear definition of it. My understanding is it's vegetable tanned but fats are added during that process. Here's a more in-depth look I just found. www.carlfriedrik.com/magazine/vachetta-leather
@@AutumnBeckman thanks!
I like this. It’s an education in leather ❤
Great video 😊💚
Thank you. :)
@@AutumnBeckman your welcome
I was just at garage sale where the gal had several vintage Coach bags
The solid color all leather ones!
I'm not fan of the pebbled leather bags
Smooth ones all the way!
No huge logos
Dooney and Bourke florentine comes to mind ❤
Great one! Thanks. ;)
Great overview of leather tanning and finishing without getting booged up in marketing/sales name that don't mean anything.
Now I have to research the marketing names for leather. ;)
@@AutumnBeckman Glove Tanned, TOGO, Olivvia, Cullata...
Really great video!Technical terms mixed in with marketing terms make things confusing. Vintage coach collector on YT linked to a really comprehensive article one time about the evolution of coach leathers over the years that alluded to the glove tanned leather basically being a term coined by Coach to represent genuine or split leather. For me that tracks. Coach still makes high quality bags but I don’t find the glove tanned leather itself to be as nice as the vintage full grain leathers. I have to think that if Coach was still using full grain leather they would be highlighting it not hiding it behind a cryptic term that only they use. Then again exclusivity may be a factor 🤷🏼♀️
I'd love to read that! Miles Cahn developed (with help) glovetanned leather for Coach in the 1950s so it's my understanding that all of their original leather bags were glovetanned leather. I'd like to know what processes they used to create it since it seems to be vegetable tanned and aniline dyed. My research says it was a different process. I suppose it could just be a slight variation to vegetable tanning.
An excellent video, thank you. Maybe a colab with Tanner leatherstein 🤗💜
That could be fun. :)
I believe buffed leather is same as nubuck, buffering or sanding is process that creates nubuck.
Crazy Horse is waxed nubuck
Thanks for adding your knowledge through these comments. I appreciate it. :)
Did you mention Saffiano leather ? It's my least favorite! I would like to know more about it and why they call it leather.
I did. I don't like it either. It's leather because the base is leather. It's then pigmented and coated and the texture is added.
@AutumnBeckman Thank you! I must have missed you talking about it. BTW, I enjoy your channel very much! You're one of the few UA-cam channels about handbags that my husband will watch with me. Keep up the good work! 😊
Wow. Just Wow! It is all I can say. Your research is fantastic. :-)
Thank you. :)
Move over Tanner Leatherstein! Autumn is in the house 🏠 ❤
Thank you, Julie. :) Your Coach Borough Bowler video was very helpful. I ordered the new dark lime one the other day. Can't wait to see it.
@@AutumnBeckman I hope you enjoy it! 🍋🟩
I don’t think the words “glove tanned leather” mean anything. My vintage bags are, like you showed, beautiful full thickness leather with minimal finishes. Yet my most recent coach bag, which is similarly stamped “glove tanned leather”, feels like plastic. Honest to doG, I had to double check the new bag!
The newer leathers stamped glovetanned are definitely different from Coach's original glovetanned leather. Maybe the new ones start with that process but then they add pigments and coatings.
Hahaha 😂 great video I can imagine your brain 🧠 exploding 🤯 with all the contradictions and more questions. Definitely a whirlwind. Thanks so much for all the effort TFS 👛🛍️🚢🦆🙏
There is still soooo much more to learn!
I have an Hermes wallet, and I love it because it's Hermes, but it's not as impressive in real life as it looks in pictures or on screen. I heard from a shop clerk at Saks Fifth Avenue that Celine uses the same tannery as Hermes. My cousin breeds dogs and has leashes made of kangaroo leather. I feels divine, but kangaroos? I can't!
Meredith has some Louis Vuitton bags made from kangaroo!
@@AutumnBeckman I never knew LV used kangaroo leather.
i have always love Coach leather. now i know why😂.
It's fantastic leather. :)
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Florentine leather from Dooney and bourke
Good one! Thanks.
"Snake sea leather, also known as “sea snake” leather, is a type of exotic leather that comes from the skin of sea snakes."
Coach can't even compete with vintage coach
Ha, ha! That's true!
I’ve seen an elephant hide Hermes bag in a vintage store 🐘
I've heard of that, too!