It was actually utilized in ww2 by some German pilots, however irl using the airbrake maneuver had a significant downside: it reduced the pilot's ability to control the aircraft. When the propeller blades were set to a coarse angle, they would generate a large amount of torque that could cause the aircraft to yaw or roll unexpectedly, making it difficult for the pilot to maintain control. Additionally, the maneuver could cause the engine to stall if the throttle was not carefully managed. It was used in some situations, most likely used for tighter turning. Pretty interesting concept and history!
I recently found an airbrake myself!! On the J2M2 at altitudes under 1 km, supercharger gear 2 is extremely ineffective and MASSIVELY slows down the plane when you are on WEP. Your speed doesn't just stay level - it actually decreases a lot, even when you are diving at steep angles. I tend to use this feature for low-level dogfights: I can easily stay on a Yak-3's tail using it, and often surprise him in a low-altitude turn / energy fight (not a pure turnfight; he is still very good there). I mainly use it as insta-throttle: switching the supercharger gears is a lot faster than manually holding my hand over the throttle key, and I can get on his six within the first turn and then instantly whip my throttle back up to full so I can out-climb him when he inevitably tries to stall-fight. I don't have local host or anything, so I don't know if this just reduces thrust a lot or actually produces negative thrust, but believe me when I say the speed absolutely tanks when I use it. Caveat: I usually switch supercharger gear at around 2800 m, so at altitudes of 1500 m and above, the supercharger becomes effective enough that it is not an airbrake. ONLY use this for extremely low altitude! And also, I'm not saying to turnfight Yak-3's at low altitude! High altitude energy fighting is the superior strat against them, but hey, what's life without a little fun?
I found this maneuver a little while ago and it's saved my life so many times when limping back to base in my g-2/trop and an enemy spit decides to go for a free kill. I usually do it in a straight line to make them think I'm a defenseless plane with no maneuverability anymore. Also very helpful putting prop pitch to 0% when your engine dies and you need to glide to base.. what I'm realizing here as i type this is i get shot and disabled too much..
That's some nice smexy music to go with the video ;) Wish spitfires will overshoot, but they pull up pretty quickly to prevent that, and so messing with prop pitch might not be so helpful. Merry Christmas Adam! :)
Adams! I saw you in a match yesterday! Thought i was finally gonna be able to dance with ya a little, you were in a corsair and i was in my G14AS, we both took some shots from each other then a p51 got me. I was a little target fixated lol. I flew that BR the rest of the night hoping to cross paths again but no luck
I learned the hard way that the IAR-81C has these characteristics, too, which is strange because it's a Romanian plane, and the only German thing about it is the cheek clapping MG151s. It's got a Gnome-Rhône engine and it's in the Italian tree. I did not make it to the airfield.
@@AdamTheEnginerd I suppose it would have made more sense if it was the IAR-80 with the BMW 108 or the 81 with the DB605, but this is neither of those variants. Do you have any idea why this may be? Or is it just going to forever be one of the certifiably Gaijin quirks?
Hey man, I was using this airbrake to slow down for landing in sims. I was about to think to use it in combat. I set up control to simultaneously open radiators, set prop pitch to 100% and turn off thrust. I thought that it is not so much known in community.
The only issue with this is that an experienced Allied pilot can at least partially counter it using almost the same technique. Cutting throttle and sending prop pitch to max on almost any plane produces a solid amount of negative thrust. I've never used it in actual combat myself simply because I fight with my speed, but if I need to make a short landing it can allow me to reduce the length of my approach to almost half sometimes. I've used it to descend at over 5000 ft/min in a B-17 as well, at low speed, which can cause me to bleed so much energy that I can often undershoot the runway.
I can't seem to make it work, am I doing it wrong? 1) Pre-set prop pitch to 100% then switch to auto prop pitch. 2) Trigger airbrake by setting throttle to 0 and enabling prop pitch to back manual (preset to 100%) > propeller slows down, but thrust is not negative, it's between 1000-2000kgf while diving from 4000m, not sure if I'm slowing down so massively
Looking a little on the net, I have found that the propeller pitch changes the inclination of the blades, allowing the blades to throw more or less air backwards, in war thunder the speed of rotation of the engine (or "revolution per minute" [RPM]) is merged with the throttle. So as far as I understand the percentage represents the maximum RPM portion of the engine from 0 to 100% (and more with WEP). For German planes prop pitch 100% is like engine brake for cars... I think ?
thanks for your answer Adam, however i think you have the skills and editing talents to build a huge channel , you could make a series to teach newbies from zero to hero :p , or to review planes one by one (quick tut of 2 minutes) , big up for the light videos, your videos are by far more instructive with the descriptions instead of mick keep up the good work !
Hey Adam! I finally found the courage and self-esteem to take my piloting to the next level. How have you keybinded this? I normally don't like to use manual prop pitch, so I set a key that simultaneously cuts the throttle to 0% and sets manual prop pitch controls and a mouse button to set the prop pitch to 100% I think I feel OKish about these controls, but just wondering what's the way you do it.
Adam, would you ever have a reason to cut throttle if you’re not using MEC.. or does the game do it automatically for you when you go to zero % throttle.. say you’re in a dive or doing the maneuvers you show here... without MEC would cutting throttle be a bad choice is what I’m trying to say
It could be a bad choice if you're going to overshoot regardless, because then you'll be slower and the enemy will have an easier time following you and shooting you if you are slower. Only chop throttle if you're sure you can stay behind the enemy.
@@AdamTheEnginerd It's because he is on Philippines working, but he stays only for month and a half. Anyways it's nice to see that you are replying on comments eaven on a few months old videos. 😀
Default is 50%, but when you're in automatic mode you can "increase" the pitch before you go manual so that it's already at 100% when you switch to manual. Not sure if that's clear.
Using this in the best 109. Why is the G-10 best 109? High top speed? Better supercharger than previous 109s? Long rear wheel strut? Better matchmaking than the K-4? No. It is good because it is green.
If you want an even harder brake, turn your engine on. The higher the throttle, the harder the brake. Don’t leave it on for too long or else you’ll kill ur engine
It's called the "local host". How to access the "local host": You need to be running War Thunder or it won't work! Option 1: on the same computer that is running WT: -Type localhost:8111/ in the address bar and press enter and voila. Option 2 (which also works on the computer that runs WT): -Type Your_IP_Address:8111/ where you replace "Your_IP_Address" by your IP Address (192.168.X.XXX) in the address bar and press enter and voila, you can look at the characteristics on another device while flying.
I was playing with a p400 (I prefer low tier) and some guy in a ki-45 otso did this to me (or something similar) and it completely caught me off-guard, his plane was practically tailgating me lol. the match before, some aced pilot with a fw190 shredded me with some fancy maneuvers, I really should learn how to effectively engage players (I have only been playing war thunder a few months now, I know how to effectively use mec but I barely know any good maneuvers)
On Fw190s and Tas, you either burst it for 1-2s then quickly go back to automatic, or you put it at like 60% instead of 100% prop pitch. Make sure your throttle is at 0% too.
@@AdamTheEnginerd see I was in MEC and put In buttons for prop pitch and auto prop pitch and engine control mode n that’s it do I need to assign a button to another control also I’m sorry for bugging u n thx a lot for replying but I got it to work before but my controls reset and idk why it’s not working now
It's not just one button you need to bind, you need to set up MEC and toggle a button to toggle MEC. There are tutorials on how to set it up on UA-cam.
Does this trick still Works? When i putted 100% prop pitch in my F-4 the engine broke, and after that i never touched the prop pitch in german planes ( the same happens in my Bv 238 )
Nice content! Probably the best so far not showing off that kinda " Look at me how great I am", but instead use really effective tactics. I am just wondering what keyboard shortcuts you use for changing the prop pitch?
Also the 109 has a very good rudder u can suspirse enemyes when u go vertical then suddenly use ur rudder to point down to them well at least it works for me i am using the 109 g2 variant now
What those vectors shows (Im from poland and some sentences are hard to understand even with dictionary because some of these words are especially used in "pilot vocabulary" Great videos could you make tutorial how to escape from enemy attack from dive Thanks!
@@AdamTheEnginerd thanks for the info adam ! Im using it in the G10 right now and i feel like a little boy every time i use it against allies planes ! Hahahaha
I think they discontinued this feature as I’ve been using this from you for the last two years now n with the new update I don’t see the ability to have this anymore
AdamTheEnginerd nvm I fixed it my controls rest n I had toggle engine controls then put in values for max and min pitch idk it was just that I had to set up 4 new buttons rather then jus simply press a button to set prop pitch I got it tho thx man this isn’t the first time either last time bout two years ago I had to same convo to get it set up
You should shoot and dodge in nearly every aircraft if you have the speed to dodge effectively. If the opponent doesn't dodge, you'll get hits while preserving your aircraft, so might as well shoot and dodge.
buddy when you try to do this basically you put too much revs on the engine and u fuck it up, idk if u uploaded it maybe when this feature had not been implemented in game ;)
As long as you go to 0% throttle before switching to 100% prop pitch you'll never overrev and damage 5.3 Bf109 engines. I continue to use this and I don't overrev. In fact in my recent K4 video I used it when I was near the limit of ripping my wings in a dive. On some other aircraft like Fw190s, you can't use it continuously for more than a few seconds even at 0% throttle.
On German planes it is the most pronounced by far. Some other planes from other nations here and there have a respectable airbrake, but German airbrakes are many times more effective.
David G. You can do it with any plane that has a prop pitch control. Basically what it is is you’re making the propeller spin at maximum RPM while generating no thrust, so it generates a ton of drag. It’s literally the opposite of feathering your propeller. I think it works better on German planes for the same reason that if you use 100%prop pitch while NOT on 0%throttle, you will overrev the engine, while this isn’t the case for other fighters. The German props have a much higher maximum RPM, way past the allowable RPM for the engine, while for other fighters, you cannot overrev on 100% at all. I don’t think the German planes have constant speed props.
Nearly every aircraft in 1940 had constant speed props. You wouldn't be able to vary the pitch if they weren't constant speed props. Perhaps indeed 100% prop pitch for German aircraft is way over max RPM, though that begs the question: what's the point? P51D30 generates about 1/3 of the drag with this same technique. It's quite useful because it does it automatically when you go to 0% throttle (when you're using MEC), and it has a decent effect.
Adam514 well if the German planes have constant speed props then it’s really confusing why they have such a high max RPM. It’s like the Germans purposely built their planes to be harder to fly for no reason. Or perhaps they intended the pilots to use your little trick :p
Constant speed props simply means that the pitch can be varied to fly at the optimum angle of attack at all times. It's a simple trick to increase performance, they certainly had constant speed props. Indeed I have no idea why their prop pitch is different from other nations in the game. I can't think of any reason.
I'm not very technical with this sort of thing, is there any way this can be viewed as cheating and get me banned, can I just turn it off when playing online and not testing?
You are hands down the most underrated warthunder content creator, keep up the good work man!
Hahaha thanks man!
Keep in mind when you do this in an FW-190 when you're fast, your engine still overrevs.
That's kinda the point ;). If you mean that the engine gets damaged at high speed, yeah you may want to run 90% prop pitch on Fw190s instead of 100%.
Yeah meant the dying part x)
Turn the engine off completely, wont overrev unless something changed
hi defyn, 4 years later. BIG fan. 👌👌
i watched this video again, i feel like it needs more views
Record it and put it on your channel ;).
you both guys are great and underrated,i hope you get more exposure!
Thanks mate!
Adam and Grern fury are the best educators I have ever watched especially the boom and zoom tactics from green fury
Yeah, green fury’s little lessons has probably single handedly brought up my success rate by 20%
Especially the boom and zoom ones. So helpful
HE did it. “I’ll show you a little trick I learned ;)”. Good one Adam :D. Also, Merry Christmas! Thanks for the good videos dood.
Haha thanks! You too!
Germans like using other body parts of their planes as airbrakes like me163's rudder
Lol yeah, but they fixed the rudder airbrake on the 163 and Ki200, it's reasonable now.
It was actually utilized in ww2 by some German pilots, however irl using the airbrake maneuver had a significant downside: it reduced the pilot's ability to control the aircraft. When the propeller blades were set to a coarse angle, they would generate a large amount of torque that could cause the aircraft to yaw or roll unexpectedly, making it difficult for the pilot to maintain control. Additionally, the maneuver could cause the engine to stall if the throttle was not carefully managed. It was used in some situations, most likely used for tighter turning. Pretty interesting concept and history!
Nice videos man! You and Dogeness should get more views because these tricks are helping me alot.
Thanks! Feel free to share our channels with your friends!
Yeah, sure, will do!
I agree! Affirmative!
I recently found an airbrake myself!! On the J2M2 at altitudes under 1 km, supercharger gear 2 is extremely ineffective and MASSIVELY slows down the plane when you are on WEP. Your speed doesn't just stay level - it actually decreases a lot, even when you are diving at steep angles. I tend to use this feature for low-level dogfights: I can easily stay on a Yak-3's tail using it, and often surprise him in a low-altitude turn / energy fight (not a pure turnfight; he is still very good there). I mainly use it as insta-throttle: switching the supercharger gears is a lot faster than manually holding my hand over the throttle key, and I can get on his six within the first turn and then instantly whip my throttle back up to full so I can out-climb him when he inevitably tries to stall-fight.
I don't have local host or anything, so I don't know if this just reduces thrust a lot or actually produces negative thrust, but believe me when I say the speed absolutely tanks when I use it.
Caveat: I usually switch supercharger gear at around 2800 m, so at altitudes of 1500 m and above, the supercharger becomes effective enough that it is not an airbrake. ONLY use this for extremely low altitude! And also, I'm not saying to turnfight Yak-3's at low altitude! High altitude energy fighting is the superior strat against them, but hey, what's life without a little fun?
Hmm interesting! It would be pretty odd if 2nd gear gave negative thrust though.
You can also fire the guns to bleed speed if you have a high enough burst mass, or are flying a light aircraft.
Yeah, but most of them (the wing mounted guns) reduce your turn also. It's also well-known to the enemy of what you're trying to do.
I found this maneuver a little while ago and it's saved my life so many times when limping back to base in my g-2/trop and an enemy spit decides to go for a free kill. I usually do it in a straight line to make them think I'm a defenseless plane with no maneuverability anymore. Also very helpful putting prop pitch to 0% when your engine dies and you need to glide to base.. what I'm realizing here as i type this is i get shot and disabled too much..
Yeah definitely a useful trick.
The physics of war thunder is so good. Its marvelous just watch.
Thanks Adam to demonstrate these kind of maneuvers.
Hahaha this might be beyond the realm of physics though!
Perfect war thunder channel
Thanks mate!
That's some nice smexy music to go with the video ;) Wish spitfires will overshoot, but they pull up pretty quickly to prevent that, and so messing with prop pitch might not be so helpful. Merry Christmas Adam! :)
Then you pull up with them! They ragequit quite quickly afterwards though ;).
Adams! I saw you in a match yesterday! Thought i was finally gonna be able to dance with ya a little, you were in a corsair and i was in my G14AS, we both took some shots from each other then a p51 got me. I was a little target fixated lol. I flew that BR the rest of the night hoping to cross paths again but no luck
Hey! I remember!
Yes you did get fixated, and you paid the ultimate price ;).
Adam514 haha. Yes i did, you flying around that BR again tonight?
Nope I signed out a few hours ago. I should be online even more than usual this week though.
And now that i think of it, i don't think any of my shots landed.
Not on me no ;).
I learned the hard way that the IAR-81C has these characteristics, too, which is strange because it's a Romanian plane, and the only German thing about it is the cheek clapping MG151s. It's got a Gnome-Rhône engine and it's in the Italian tree.
I did not make it to the airfield.
Oh yeah.
@@AdamTheEnginerd I suppose it would have made more sense if it was the IAR-80 with the BMW 108 or the 81 with the DB605, but this is neither of those variants.
Do you have any idea why this may be? Or is it just going to forever be one of the certifiably Gaijin quirks?
I was looking for this soloution for a year ... thanks man ... it helps alot
My pleasure mate! Welcome!
Damn. Red tails manouver is real!
Haha a more realistic maneuver than Red Tails.
Thank you for this video. It was very useful for me.
My pleasure!
@@AdamTheEnginerd But anyways, Bf. 109 G-14 sucks very hard in RB now.
Very good tutorial. Continue making this kind of videos.
Also thx 4 learning me something new today ;)
Thanks man! I will!
Adam514 no problem, only if i had ur skill at dogfighting :(
Hey man, I was using this airbrake to slow down for landing in sims. I was about to think to use it in combat. I set up control to simultaneously open radiators, set prop pitch to 100% and turn off thrust. I thought that it is not so much known in community.
It's still not well known for sure, it requires MEC too.
Excellent stuff on your channel, lucky me that I have found you. :)
Thanks mate!
Im freezed. This trick is very pro! Very nice!
Thanks man!
How can you fully customise all of your controls though ... I can't find the prop pitch .
You need to set up Manual Engine Controls (MEC) in Full Real Controls. There are tutorials on how to do it on UA-cam.
The only issue with this is that an experienced Allied pilot can at least partially counter it using almost the same technique. Cutting throttle and sending prop pitch to max on almost any plane produces a solid amount of negative thrust. I've never used it in actual combat myself simply because I fight with my speed, but if I need to make a short landing it can allow me to reduce the length of my approach to almost half sometimes. I've used it to descend at over 5000 ft/min in a B-17 as well, at low speed, which can cause me to bleed so much energy that I can often undershoot the runway.
Depends on the plane, on Bf109s it's multiple times more effective than the average plane though.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Hence it only being a partial counter. Does help though.
at 1:00 you said that you activated manual pp but the game says it’s AUTO pp ON. I didn’t get it
I can't seem to make it work, am I doing it wrong?
1) Pre-set prop pitch to 100% then switch to auto prop pitch.
2) Trigger airbrake by setting throttle to 0 and enabling prop pitch to back manual (preset to 100%)
> propeller slows down, but thrust is not negative, it's between 1000-2000kgf while diving from 4000m, not sure if I'm slowing down so massively
Yeah so the indicator stays positive now even when it's drag, so that 1000-2000kgf is drag when at 0% throttle and 100% PP.
Interesting but what is prop pich ? Cause i doesn't really see where it is, and don't understand why putting it at 100 % slow down the aircraft...
It's part of Manual Engine Controls (MEC). There are tutorials on UA-cam that explain how to set it up.
I use manual control Adam514, but need to know the "effect" of prop pitch on the aircraft
Prop pitch in WT controls the RPM. In German planes if you force the RPM to the max (100%), it creates massive amounts of drag, as shown here.
Looking a little on the net, I have found that the propeller pitch changes the inclination of the blades, allowing the blades to throw more or less air backwards, in war thunder the speed of rotation of the engine (or "revolution per minute" [RPM]) is merged with the throttle. So as far as I understand the percentage represents the maximum RPM portion of the engine from 0 to 100% (and more with WEP).
For German planes prop pitch 100% is like engine brake for cars... I think ?
Yup that'd be a good analogy!
Please tell me that wasn't a red tails reference at 3:36
Haha of course! I'm a big Red Tails fan!
@@AdamTheEnginerd Haha Realistically accurate dogfights Kappa.
can you please add keyboard shorts ?! i'm a newbie and i don't the keys for doing so, also , does this works in Arcade mod ?
There are tutorials on UA-cam on how to set up MEC, you should check them out. I don't think they work in AB (they wouldn't be much use in AB anyway).
thanks for your answer Adam, however i think you have the skills and editing talents to build a huge channel , you could make a series to teach newbies from zero to hero :p , or to review planes one by one (quick tut of 2 minutes) , big up for the light videos, your videos are by far more instructive with the descriptions instead of mick keep up the good work !
In arcade the pitch propeller is ALWAYS auto
Hey Adam! I finally found the courage and self-esteem to take my piloting to the next level. How have you keybinded this? I normally don't like to use manual prop pitch, so I set a key that simultaneously cuts the throttle to 0% and sets manual prop pitch controls and a mouse button to set the prop pitch to 100%
I think I feel OKish about these controls, but just wondering what's the way you do it.
I guess that works haha. My keys aren't intuitive, I don't recommend them.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Thanks for the answer and thanks for the great content!
@@kiliaapo My pleasure!
how do you bind 100% throttle to a key ?
Adam, would you ever have a reason to cut throttle if you’re not using MEC.. or does the game do it automatically for you when you go to zero % throttle.. say you’re in a dive or doing the maneuvers you show here... without MEC would cutting throttle be a bad choice is what I’m trying to say
It could be a bad choice if you're going to overshoot regardless, because then you'll be slower and the enemy will have an easier time following you and shooting you if you are slower. Only chop throttle if you're sure you can stay behind the enemy.
@@AdamTheEnginerd you are a legend thanks
But when I try to activate manual engine control, it said that I turned on AUTO mode and cannot be activated, how to turn it off?
Any video teaching where to setup the controls for it?
Yeah DEFYN and I made a 2-video series on MEC and how to set it up, you should check them out.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Thanks!
My dream duel is Adam against Messer Smitty in this plane
Haha G10?
@@AdamTheEnginerd That would be cool, or any other 109! Please arrange that 😁
It doesn't look like he plays much anymore.
@@AdamTheEnginerd It's because he is on Philippines working, but he stays only for month and a half. Anyways it's nice to see that you are replying on comments eaven on a few months old videos. 😀
Of course!
Does turning off auto prop pitch control default the pitch at 100%? I saw you toggling it, but didn't see you adjusting it to 100%.
Default is 50%, but when you're in automatic mode you can "increase" the pitch before you go manual so that it's already at 100% when you switch to manual. Not sure if that's clear.
@@AdamTheEnginerd You just increase the throttle? Or press the increase prop pitch button when AEC is on?
@@tld00 2nd.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Thanks man. You've already taught me a lot. Thanks again
@@tld00 My pleasure!
Using this in the best 109. Why is the G-10 best 109? High top speed? Better supercharger than previous 109s? Long rear wheel strut? Better matchmaking than the K-4? No. It is good because it is green.
Haha!
I use mec on all my german planes and bounded the toggle prop pitch to a mouse button
To use this trick?
@@AdamTheEnginerd yea it's been really helpful especially when I want to land faster
Haha yeah for sure!
I know I'm late but how do you not over rev your engine when you pull that maneuver?
At 0% throttle you won't overrev on Bf109s above F4 in BR.
As in you won't take damage.
If you want an even harder brake, turn your engine on. The higher the throttle, the harder the brake. Don’t leave it on for too long or else you’ll kill ur engine
Well 0% is already massive enough, and no need to risk it. But indeed I've noticed that at some % throttle it's more effective.
How do I configure that? For air rb? I dont find the options
There are tutorials on how to set it up on UA-cam.
@@AdamTheEnginerd thank u so much
My pleasure!
For climbing/stallfighting: Can you also increase Prop Pitch until RPM is just below the given engine limit, for increased Performance?
Yeah you can! I used it at the end of my Bf109G14AS video to kill the Yak3VK107 in the vertical, it was cool!
@@AdamTheEnginerd thanks!!
we need more tricks !
I agree! I've got one planned!
Can you confirm they banned or removed this cuz It was really helpful when I had it
Was still working for me a week ago.
Like I chins this in controls so how would I get it so that I could use the prop pitch method
See my response to your earlier comment.
With this u could do amazing cobras
Not really cobras, but can cause overshoots.
When I activate manual prop pitch it goes to 50% by default. Is it the value it should have for this air brake to work?
100% has a bigger effect.
@@AdamTheEnginerd I think by default manual settings has 50% which needs to be increased but in video I didn't see you increasing the pitch
@@saurabhsingh5528 I increase before turning it on.
how do you show the stats in the black rectangle ?
It's called the "local host".
How to access the "local host":
You need to be running War Thunder or it won't work!
Option 1: on the same computer that is running WT:
-Type localhost:8111/ in the address bar and press enter and voila.
Option 2 (which also works on the computer that runs WT):
-Type Your_IP_Address:8111/ where you replace "Your_IP_Address" by your IP Address (192.168.X.XXX) in the address bar and press enter and voila, you can look at the characteristics on another device while flying.
hi, reviving your post to ask how i can put this carachteristic pop up on my war thunder?
I use this now:
Overlay: forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/483838-warthunder-real-time-information/
@@AdamTheEnginerd ty a lot my man
I think if you leave manual prop pitch for too long your engine starts taking damage as the prop spins too fast
Only when you leave the throttle on. If you throttle is at 0% your engine won't get damaged.
Right :)
Also, I knew that trick worked but not that well and I find it to be very useful to avoid overspeed in a dive
Yeah you can use it to dive 90° straight down no sweat, it won't let you go over 600km/h.
How to active this manual prop pitch it is somwhere in setting?
Could you write me how to do it in short points and when what to do okey?
Yeah, it's in Manual Engine Controls (MEC). There are tutorials on how to set it up on UA-cam.
@@AdamTheEnginerd thanks u are great!
Hey! How do you set up such a battle with a friend? Keep up the great work!
Thanks!
Just set up a custom match. If you click on the game mode, you have the option for a custom match at the bottom.
I was playing with a p400 (I prefer low tier) and some guy in a ki-45 otso did this to me (or something similar) and it completely caught me off-guard, his plane was practically tailgating me lol. the match before, some aced pilot with a fw190 shredded me with some fancy maneuvers, I really should learn how to effectively engage players (I have only been playing war thunder a few months now, I know how to effectively use mec but I barely know any good maneuvers)
Hej could you do a video on the G. 91(the first one to unlock) or the Italian F-84thingy? I'm not sure which to unlock first, thanks.
They are on my list! Both are pretty good jets.
How do I do this without using full real controls it won't let me use it with mouse aim
You need to bind a key to toggle MEC while being in mouse aim. Check out DEFYN and my MEC videos, they explain everything.
@@AdamTheEnginerd link it
@@viruspter1dactl ua-cam.com/video/RRzMcnCS4ag/v-deo.html&ab_channel=DEFYN
Can someone explain to me how to bind this to my keyboard and make it work??
There are tutorials on how to setup MEC on UA-cam already.
Head on me!
Ha!
Sure
oh yeah tricks in full realistic controls you should've said
It's just MEC.
When i put 100% prop pitch om my Ta 152 the engine just dies. Does the trick only work on bf109?
On Fw190s and Tas, you either burst it for 1-2s then quickly go back to automatic, or you put it at like 60% instead of 100% prop pitch. Make sure your throttle is at 0% too.
You just turn off auto prop pitch? Nothing else? I didn't experiment with this type of stuff since I'm on console but I'm doing good( i think lol).
And I set it to 100% prop pitch previously.
@@AdamTheEnginerd ok thanks
I just open my coolers to 100% and it s realy slows me down i m scared to use prop mac since i have bad experience on tge he100 with it
Radiators have like 5% of the effectiveness of the prop pitch airbrake.
You have just activated manual prop pitch or you did press another button?
I had the prop pitch increased to 100% before activating manual prop pitch.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Ok. Thanks!
What do you have to assign buttons to
You need to setup Manual Engine Controls (MEC).
@@AdamTheEnginerd is that different from the engine controls button
@@AdamTheEnginerd is that what I should look up under the control tab
@@AdamTheEnginerd see I was in MEC and put In buttons for prop pitch and auto prop pitch and engine control mode n that’s it do I need to assign a button to another control also I’m sorry for bugging u n thx a lot for replying but I got it to work before but my controls reset and idk why it’s not working now
@@rushikkisan7603 Check videos on how to set up MEC, there are a few traps here and there. Watching DEFYN's video on it.
how to show that additional indicators for aircraft?
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@@AdamTheEnginerd thanks!
Can you do a video on how to fly the ki-87?
Sorry I don't have it. From what I can see it's similar to the P47 since it has good high altitude performance, but sluggish at low altitudes.
Adam, which fighter is more maneuverable? G 10 or K 4
K4.
Thank you
Can you tell me where it is in settings please?
You need to set up Manual Engine Controls (MEC) in Full Real Controls. There are tutorials on how to do it on UA-cam.
I know im a little late but what button did u bind for that?
It's not just one button you need to bind, you need to set up MEC and toggle a button to toggle MEC. There are tutorials on how to set it up on UA-cam.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Aha thanks for the info you got a new sub :D
Welcome!
Can u show us how to set it?
Check DEFYN's and then my video on MEC (it's in 2 parts), they explain everything about MEC.
Does this trick still Works?
When i putted 100% prop pitch in my F-4 the engine broke, and after that i never touched the prop pitch in german planes ( the same happens in my Bv 238 )
You need to go to 0% throttle. On Bf109G and later you can use it a lot. Maybe on F4 you shouldn't use it for more than a few seconds consecutively.
Nice content! Probably the best so far not showing off that kinda " Look at me how great I am", but instead use really effective tactics. I am just wondering what keyboard shortcuts you use for changing the prop pitch?
Hahaha thanks!
I use Shift+P to activate manual prop pitch, then shift+. to increase prop pitch.
Superior allied fighters? :)
Inside joke haha.
Also the 109 has a very good rudder u can suspirse enemyes when u go vertical then suddenly use ur rudder to point down to them well at least it works for me i am using the 109 g2 variant now
Too bad I cant pull this off cuz my PP control is the entire keyboard away from my left hand...
Actually mine is half away, still doable.
@@AdamTheEnginerd gonna need to practice it seems
Hey, what are the key bindings fo this?
You need to set up Manual Engine Controls (MEC) yourself.
What those vectors shows
(Im from poland and some sentences are hard to understand even with dictionary because some of these words are especially used in "pilot vocabulary"
Great videos could you make tutorial how to escape from enemy attack from dive
Thanks!
Not sure I understand what you mean by "vectors".
Thanks! I did a video going deeply into what goes into dive if you're interested.
Can you give a link to this video?
Sure, here you go: ua-cam.com/video/rCUm2tE2vys/v-deo.html
@@AdamTheEnginerd thanks dude !
@@l3gacy125 My pleasure!
What do you type in to set it to prop pitch
You need to bind and set up Manual Engine Controls (MEC). There are videos on UA-cam showing how.
Ok can I still use mouse aim will setting this up
Yeah you just need to bind a key to activate MEC while being in mouse aim.
Omg i love this ! works perfectly with the bfs but i tried it with the fw d9 in test flight and after diving it kills the engine at around 400 km/h...
Hahaha it confuses the enemy!
Yeah you need to burst it for a few seconds maximum in Fw190s.
@@AdamTheEnginerd thanks for the info adam ! Im using it in the G10 right now and i feel like a little boy every time i use it against allies planes ! Hahahaha
@@adribrito9197 Haha my pleasure!
what can i set up this manuel control ?
Not sure I understand the question. There are guides on UA-cam on how to set up Manuel Engine Controls (MEC).
how do you activate manual prop pitch lol
You need to set up Manual Engine Controls (MEC). There are tutorials on UA-cam to set it up.
Thanks
@@AdamTheEnginerd Is manual prop pitch your ability to turn off the manual prop pitch cause when i do that the plane just gets wobbly not slow down
Euh it shouldn't make your plane wobbly. You need to stay in mouse aim.
Does this still work? IF SO IN WHAT PLANEA IM GETTING TRIGGERED CAUSE GERMAN Y IS SO BAD
Yes it does haha, and it works safely in Bf109s.
@@AdamTheEnginerd i dont stop gaining or lose speed when i dive though
@@StarWarsMasters You shouldn't be able to go above 650 IAS with this trick.
@@AdamTheEnginerd what classes do u take lmao
@@StarWarsMasters What?
I think they discontinued this feature as I’ve been using this from you for the last two years now n with the new update I don’t see the ability to have this anymore
Was still working for me a week ago.
AdamTheEnginerd Mabye my controls got reset how do you get it so that you can do manual prop pitch
AdamTheEnginerd I’ve set up my propeller pitch and toggle auto prop pitch and it still won’t work
Do you put prop pitch to 100%?
AdamTheEnginerd nvm I fixed it my controls rest n I had toggle engine controls then put in values for max and min pitch idk it was just that I had to set up 4 new buttons rather then jus simply press a button to set prop pitch I got it tho thx man this isn’t the first time either last time bout two years ago I had to same convo to get it set up
Damn how Long did you spend setting up your keybinds
Haha it didn't take long really, it's straightforward when you know what you're doing.
Great video. I was wondering however, should you head on with p-47s in FW190s?
You should shoot and dodge in nearly every aircraft if you have the speed to dodge effectively. If the opponent doesn't dodge, you'll get hits while preserving your aircraft, so might as well shoot and dodge.
buddy when you try to do this basically you put too much revs on the engine and u fuck it up, idk if u uploaded it maybe when this feature had not been implemented in game ;)
As long as you go to 0% throttle before switching to 100% prop pitch you'll never overrev and damage 5.3 Bf109 engines. I continue to use this and I don't overrev. In fact in my recent K4 video I used it when I was near the limit of ripping my wings in a dive. On some other aircraft like Fw190s, you can't use it continuously for more than a few seconds even at 0% throttle.
how to do you do this on consoles?
You can hook up a keyboard and mouse ;).
Apart from that, it's not worth setting up on console, but I'm sure there's a way.
+Adam514 I was actually thinking about getting a joystick to play around with. I'm on Xbox, just got the pre release and so far I'm loving it.
Why not play on PC?
How do u set this control up tho
You need to setup Manual Engine Controls (MEC).
What button?
You need to set up Manual Engine Control (MEC). Then you assign the button of your choice.
Does this work on other aircraft?
Yes, but to a lesser extent. It's less risky on other aircraft too.
@@AdamTheEnginerd thanks have to try and see.Will check back on how to works or if I need more info 😉
Sounds good!
I feel like irl this would absolutely destroy the engine haha
Definitely, there are tons of thrust on that prop haha.
@@AdamTheEnginerd props to you for replying on years old videos haha
@@AdamTheEnginerd that was my first thought, coming from a sim pilot. (Don't think this will fly in IL-2)
I tried this against dogeness and he was a fast p47 but didnt over shoot
I was 300km/h
@@StarWarsMasters Haha oof!
@@AdamTheEnginerd unhelpful boiiizzizizizi
@@AdamTheEnginerd does he have a yt
@@StarWarsMasters Yes.
Try this in a FW190 ;)
I do use it on Fw190s haha, just don't use it for more than 3s if you're going fast.
do it for to long and it turns into the german engine break.
Hmm on tier 3-4 Bf109s with 0% throttle, I've never damaged my engine doing this.
@@AdamTheEnginerd i've had it happen with fw 190's if i'm not careful, particularly the a models
For sure on Fw190s, don't use it for more than 1-2s continuously.
i did not know this was a thing, can only german planes do this
On German planes it is the most pronounced by far. Some other planes from other nations here and there have a respectable airbrake, but German airbrakes are many times more effective.
David G. You can do it with any plane that has a prop pitch control. Basically what it is is you’re making the propeller spin at maximum RPM while generating no thrust, so it generates a ton of drag. It’s literally the opposite of feathering your propeller.
I think it works better on German planes for the same reason that if you use 100%prop pitch while NOT on 0%throttle, you will overrev the engine, while this isn’t the case for other fighters. The German props have a much higher maximum RPM, way past the allowable RPM for the engine, while for other fighters, you cannot overrev on 100% at all. I don’t think the German planes have constant speed props.
Nearly every aircraft in 1940 had constant speed props. You wouldn't be able to vary the pitch if they weren't constant speed props.
Perhaps indeed 100% prop pitch for German aircraft is way over max RPM, though that begs the question: what's the point?
P51D30 generates about 1/3 of the drag with this same technique. It's quite useful because it does it automatically when you go to 0% throttle (when you're using MEC), and it has a decent effect.
Adam514 well if the German planes have constant speed props then it’s really confusing why they have such a high max RPM. It’s like the Germans purposely built their planes to be harder to fly for no reason. Or perhaps they intended the pilots to use your little trick :p
Constant speed props simply means that the pitch can be varied to fly at the optimum angle of attack at all times. It's a simple trick to increase performance, they certainly had constant speed props.
Indeed I have no idea why their prop pitch is different from other nations in the game. I can't think of any reason.
Caralho to cagando e ta sendo difícil.
Nice tricks maister o7
Thanks!
Just use 100% throttle
Prop pitch is the real throttle
nope , it kills the engine in German Props .
@@AverageDoomer69 above 450kmh and with "no 0% throttle" and in a dive above 60% dive and plus 3000mt long
:)
Dislike, because you complained that the 50cal spark... on the tail... where it should do no dmg...
smh
It's a fact, not a complaint that a spark happened.
How do you turn on that flight data display?
I use this now:
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I'm not very technical with this sort of thing, is there any way this can be viewed as cheating and get me banned, can I just turn it off when playing online and not testing?
@@cmbaileytstc They can't really know you're using it for one, but yeah when you don't run the overlay you don't see it.