Thanks Brian. Really needed to see the breakdown of the magic keyboard. Most people showed it and moved on. You really broke down the hinge, and how far it extends, which was really important to me. Props.
I own a 12.9 iPad and a iPad Air, thickness is really a useless matrix because outside of Apple Store, I have never ever see a single iPad not use inside a case! no point to argue! it is simply THE TRUTH!
@@mracer8 The problem was that the 12.9" iPad Pro with the keyboard case was noticeably heavier and thicker than the 13" Macbook Air. The latest update now makes them on par in weight and thickness, which finally makes this a viable alternative to the Air (with more power, a much better screen, and touch capability).
@@mracer8tf i talking bout, my entire household uses it caseless, plus anybody who uses magic keyboard uses it caseless when detaching from the keyboard
@@shawnvegavelez121 yes, with the new ipad pro 2024, I'd recommend the Logitech Combo Touch; another reason : you can detach the keyboard, and keep your ipad protected... which is not the case with that Magic Keyboard... good enough if you only use you iPad at home or something (few chances you'll put on things that could damage it) EDIT : I mean, (when putting on some surfaces) scratch it 😅
@@grospoulpe951 Why do you say this? The current magic keyboard and this most recent release is one of the best products Apple has ever released/made... :)
16:05 Yes, finally a review with a kitchen scale and live scaling! 🎉Thank you so much, I was looking for the actual weight of the Magic Keyboard everywhere and couldn’t find any details. Another UA-camr scaled the Smart Folio iPad Pro 13", so I got all the information I needed.
Can we get a shout out for that dope background for this unboxing? I’ve said it once, and I’ll keep saying it. Brian Tong is the mf goat and best tech reviewer out in these streets!! Thx and love you bro! ❤️🙏🏾
The 13" M3 Macbook Air is the same exact weight (1.24kg) but they round down to 2.7lbs, so this makes the 13" iPad Pro WITH the new Magic Keyboard case the same exact weight as the Macbook Air! Finally!
For that price, the cover should be included. You should get a credit to pick the color you want. Wouldn't that be fun and make that price hike go down a little easier?
Thanks for showing the Logitech Combo but I wished you did the side by side comparison with the Magic Keyboard along with weights like you did with the older iPad Pro keyboard. The best reason for the combo isn’t the all around protection you mention but the removable keyboard you can flip around to the back or totally remove to allow one to use the Pencil Pro naturally.
Apple should just give us an option for Always on Display for any device with OLED. I’d love to have AOD on an iPad or some sort of Desktop screen saver options while charging.
I have the feeling (if they don’t simply redesign iPadOS to be more like macOS) they could do a feature where plugging in iPad to an external monitor, prompts running macOS on the external display and keep an iPadOS (hopefully more robust iPadOS) on iPad as a portable touchscreen OS.
I keep hearing about ipad not good enough for the M4. But I suspect that it will be updated to take advantage of the M4. First comes the hardware, then comes the software. I ordered my IPad Pro with the Logitech keyboard & pencil pro. 512 gb. Can't wait.
Also it would be nice to know if the OLED display is better than the M2 iPad pro screen. The M2 iPad Pro's screen is P3 color gamet, Retna and can be used as a reference Monitor display.
I'm not sure what gamet and retna mean... is that similar to gourmet and (???) The new one has P3 wide color gamut support and is a "Retina" display. (Literally not a single person uses the M2's display as a reference monitor. The default setting for it shifts colors based on environment, which is the last thing you want in a reference monitor.)
@@chrisdacosta1824 no it doesn’t, I have used iPad Pro for PROFESSIONAL music production since 2017 and it is so much better than any other tablet for that use case and pretty much any other pro use case
With my M2 ipad pro I honestly didn't enjoy so much the experience with the magic keyboard, personally I enjoy my ipad more with the smart folio this year I didn't get the magic keyboard 😊
The new magic keyboard looks awesome. Thanks for the weight comparison, I believe especially for the larger iPad, every gram they can save counts. Oh, and even if I don‘t need the function row: having an ESC-key is a VERY welcome update ;-)
I was subscribed to CNET for Brian Tong and followed his channel since the beginning! I waiting for this unboxing from you dude!! My favorite tech reviewer reviewing my favorite tech. Does Brian still read the comments?!?
I didn’t know there was an Apple-branded Smart Folio with the new iPad Pros. From their order page and their presentation, it seemed like the Magic Keyboard was the only option.
Quack ! LOL I want to know how to the speakers sound on the new M4 compared to the older iPad Pro models. I would think they might not be quite as full because it's so thin.
Curious your thoughts Brian on the M4 chip difference between the 512GB and the 1TB, I ordered the 512 but on the fence of upgrading to the 1TB. Not a need storage wise but tempting especially knowing the spec bump in M4 chips.
How do you plan on using the iPad Pro, that's what should really determine what you do. But I do NOT agree with them having a more limited chip on a Pro Model. If it's a Pro, then give them both the same chip so we don't have to even make a choice.
@@briantong I mostly use the 11" iPad Pro as a notebook w/ Goodnotes & Notability Apps & to watch media when needing to be more mobile & when multi-tasking as opposed to editing at this time but want to have the right tool for the job if I desire to do/learn more. I learned about the chip difference after my purchase but still thinking I got the most bang for my buck for what I need. Hmmmm
@@FFCOACHDAN There’s also double RAM with the 1TB models, from 8GB to 16GB. In my opinion though unless you plan to use it for intense graphics, editing or gaming stuff it should be plenty powerful with the 512GB model. Keeping in mind it’s still a stronger processor than the M2 chip in the iPad Air and that would still power through the tasks you described.
But can you actually use the combo on your lap for extended everyday use, anywhere? And not overbalance, wobble & generally be inconvenient like the last models?
😂 you are as always doing a great job and always love your laughter. I’m not sure that I upgrade from my M1 Pro cause it still fill my needs😎 keep up the good job👍🏻
Does anyone know if the nano texture screen on the iPad is the outside and therefore does it reduce the slipperiness of the Apple Pencil on the screen like Paperless?
I really love that logitech is making actual top quality products, I love their mouse and Im sold with the logitech combo touch case. I hate the apple magic keyboard for ipad pretty expensive and really cheap materials. My previous keyboard looks like trash even tho Im really careful with my stuff. Im lookin to updrade my ipad with this one. But I still have doubts.
It depends what your needs are. I would lean towards the MacBook Air, and save you $$$ and it has all the functionality to handle whatever college throws at you.
Why would you trade in your 2-3 year old M2 MacBook Pro for an iPad? Just buy a cheaper M1 or 2018 iPad lol, there's almost no difference and the difference can only be felt if you are using it for professional work.
The thickness of a product is measured at the thickest location. In this case at the camera pump. Therefore it isn't the thinnest product they ever made such as the nano. Just marketing.
I disagree. The 12.9” iPad Pro was too heavy to hold one handed for any reasonable period of time. Having a lighter iPad is a boon. I’ve never had an issue with the battery life. Bezel-wise, they could make it a lot smaller but how would you hold it without a ton of accidental touches? By making the iPad lighter the keyboard can also be lighter, so that’s a double weight reduction.
New iPad Pro cons ▫️Apple removed the 2nd rear camera 🔸Apple removed 1 studio microphone 🔹Apple Pencil 2 won’t work with it 🔻Existing Magic Keyboard won’t work with it 🔺The M4 chip in the 256 and 512 GB models is a binned one with lower CPU and performance cores than getting an 1T or 2T model which has the fully unlocked M4 chip.
The most relevant comparison wasn't made: Apple tells us that the new Magic Keyboard is only compatible with the new M4 iPad Pro, but what happens if we slot in the M1 iPad Pro in it? Does it work? I have an M1 iPad Pro, and I don't care about any upgrades present in the M4 one, but I do care about the newer, much better magic keyboard
Thanks for comparison between M4 and M2 magic keyboards. Would you know if there is there a more substantial case that could then go over the whole magic keyboard for teenager use?
@@briantong Was hoping that Apple may have designed a protective cover for the iPad and the magic keyboard to make it a bit more robust for school use! That could be your next design!! Thanks for quick reply.
Thanks Brian. Really needed to see the breakdown of the magic keyboard. Most people showed it and moved on. You really broke down the hinge, and how far it extends, which was really important to me. Props.
I like your unboxing unrehearsed. It makes it more real...
That's exactly what I'm going for :)
Anybody who wishes it was thicker has never owned the 12.9 iPad…
TRUTH!
I own a 12.9 iPad and a iPad Air, thickness is really a useless matrix because outside of Apple Store, I have never ever see a single iPad not use inside a case! no point to argue! it is simply THE TRUTH!
Straight Facts: No BBL!
@@mracer8 The problem was that the 12.9" iPad Pro with the keyboard case was noticeably heavier and thicker than the 13" Macbook Air. The latest update now makes them on par in weight and thickness, which finally makes this a viable alternative to the Air (with more power, a much better screen, and touch capability).
@@mracer8tf i talking bout, my entire household uses it caseless, plus anybody who uses magic keyboard uses it caseless when detaching from the keyboard
Brian:That's a ....Good Apple 🍎 !! 😆
I've never wanted a Macbook, but I want this new iPad Pro M4 and the Majic keyboard.
It so majical
The Logitech one is probably better, and cheaper, too (with mentioning : firmware upgradable, better protection).
@@grospoulpe951 are you saying so 8n regards to the new iPad Pro 2024?
@@shawnvegavelez121 yes, with the new ipad pro 2024, I'd recommend the Logitech Combo Touch; another reason : you can detach the keyboard, and keep your ipad protected... which is not the case with that Magic Keyboard... good enough if you only use you iPad at home or something (few chances you'll put on things that could damage it)
EDIT : I mean, (when putting on some surfaces) scratch it 😅
@@grospoulpe951 Why do you say this? The current magic keyboard and this most recent release is one of the best products Apple has ever released/made... :)
Mate this was outstanding. No fake hype and you answered literally every question I had in mind. Thank you!!
Very entertaining unboxing. Raw and unscripted which I like.
16:05 Yes, finally a review with a kitchen scale and live scaling! 🎉Thank you so much, I was looking for the actual weight of the Magic Keyboard everywhere and couldn’t find any details. Another UA-camr scaled the Smart Folio iPad Pro 13", so I got all the information I needed.
4:36 CORRECTION the black USB-C cable only comes with the space black iPad Pro not silver
Can we get a shout out for that dope background for this unboxing?
I’ve said it once, and I’ll keep saying it. Brian Tong is the mf goat and best tech reviewer out in these streets!!
Thx and love you bro! ❤️🙏🏾
I didnt get a change to respon to this, but THANK YOU for your support and your kind words. THANK YOU Bosely!
The 13" M3 Macbook Air is the same exact weight (1.24kg) but they round down to 2.7lbs, so this makes the 13" iPad Pro WITH the new Magic Keyboard case the same exact weight as the Macbook Air! Finally!
What happens (I know they are listed as incompatible) when you put the m1 IPad on the new magic keyboard?
It’s slightly off and doesn’t connect properly.
"i dont know if this is the case" reviewing the ipad case. very subtle
For that price, the cover should be included. You should get a credit to pick the color you want. Wouldn't that be fun and make that price hike go down a little easier?
Brian Tong representing one of my favorite X-Men, Gambit, with that shirt.
Thanks for showing the Logitech Combo but I wished you did the side by side comparison with the Magic Keyboard along with weights like you did with the older iPad Pro keyboard. The best reason for the combo isn’t the all around protection you mention but the removable keyboard you can flip around to the back or totally remove to allow one to use the Pencil Pro naturally.
Apple should just give us an option for Always on Display for any device with OLED. I’d love to have AOD on an iPad or some sort of Desktop screen saver options while charging.
Would like to see how much force it takes to tip it backward compared to the old one
Thanks for posting the weights with the keyboards.
You da man, B’ Ran! The tissue paper cover is SO satisfying! Power it up, babe!
I have the feeling (if they don’t simply redesign iPadOS to be more like macOS) they could do a feature where plugging in iPad to an external monitor, prompts running macOS on the external display and keep an iPadOS (hopefully more robust iPadOS) on iPad as a portable touchscreen OS.
Love your new background! 💜
I keep hearing about ipad not good enough for the M4. But I suspect that it will be updated to take advantage of the M4. First comes the hardware, then comes the software. I ordered my IPad Pro with the Logitech keyboard & pencil pro. 512 gb. Can't wait.
Also it would be nice to know if the OLED display is better than the M2 iPad pro screen. The M2 iPad Pro's screen is P3 color gamet, Retna and can be used as a reference Monitor display.
I'm not sure what gamet and retna mean... is that similar to gourmet and (???)
The new one has P3 wide color gamut support and is a "Retina" display.
(Literally not a single person uses the M2's display as a reference monitor. The default setting for it shifts colors based on environment, which is the last thing you want in a reference monitor.)
They're the same, just more colour accurate
In the EU we do not get any charger in the package anymore :)
Thank you EU
Hi Brian, you do such a good job in your video reviews. Always really enjoy them. Thank you.
Thanks Ted!
Did the new iPad work on the old Magic Keyboard??? Pls reply
No
Apple are so far ahead at this point they don't have to bother with an updated device for about 2 years!
Guess you haven't used another premium tablet because ipadOS dramatically holds this thing back.
No… It doesn’t
What a Sheep!
@@chrisdacosta1824 no it doesn’t, I have used iPad Pro for PROFESSIONAL music production since 2017 and it is so much better than any other tablet for that use case and pretty much any other pro use case
@@Melchezidekit only hold you back if you don’t know how to use it. I use iPad os and Mac OS - I don’t see the problem what people are talking about.
13” iPad + Magic Keyboard not quite 12-inch MacBook light, but this is the spiritual successor so far
BT blessed by the Apple god. Great to see so soon, still a bunch of other big channels without reviews up
Awesome stuff, I’m looking forward to receiving mine soon. Big upgrade from 2018.
I have the same M1 space grey and white keyboard! Thanks for comparing to the newer ones!!!
Doodle Jump is going to be epic on my iPad Pro M4!
Can’t wait to write my emails on my iPad Pro M4 with the bigger Magic Keyboard trackpad!!!
Unfortunately for me, I have to wait until I finish bootcamp in order to get my iPad Pro 😓 Definitely getting an 11" iPad Pro in space black!
With my M2 ipad pro I honestly didn't enjoy so much the experience with the magic keyboard, personally I enjoy my ipad more with the smart folio this year I didn't get the magic keyboard 😊
Hi Brian can you please compare it to the Samsung s9 ultra would love to hear your thoughts
Was waiting for this Unboxing, Let’s goooo
The new magic keyboard looks awesome. Thanks for the weight comparison, I believe especially for the larger iPad, every gram they can save counts. Oh, and even if I don‘t need the function row: having an ESC-key is a VERY welcome update ;-)
Love Brian keeping it real, no over produced videos here. FTW
I was subscribed to CNET for Brian Tong and followed his channel since the beginning!
I waiting for this unboxing from you dude!! My favorite tech reviewer reviewing my favorite tech.
Does Brian still read the comments?!?
Of course I do! I'm a busy guy but I at least jump in a couple times! Thanks for watching and rocking with me!
Would you suggest 11 or 13 inch for holding it?
Ok. This is a killer tablet. Predict wwdc will add some “pro” features for this bad boy. For now, ,ajar upgrade from m1 version I currently have
Just holding on to it with your fingertips was anxiety-inducing. 😂
You do a great review, more like a friend, thanks
Thank you so much for watching!
Outstanding demo! Thanks Brian.
Those new iPad Pro are great stuff; can't wait for iPad OS 18 (final version, this fall I guess) !
Not Fall, but June 10th at WWDC is when people said iOS 18 might be coming.
@@GabriellaBalagna in beta version, yes; but, usually, the final version is released after or around the release of the new iphones...
I didn’t know there was an Apple-branded Smart Folio with the new iPad Pros. From their order page and their presentation, it seemed like the Magic Keyboard was the only option.
The new Smart Folio case has magnet rails all along the case so you can actually set the stand in many Angles
Quack ! LOL I want to know how to the speakers sound on the new M4 compared to the older iPad Pro models. I would think they might not be quite as full because it's so thin.
Hey, Brian is a Ne-Yo fan. (15:36) 👏👏👏
Curious your thoughts Brian on the M4 chip difference between the 512GB and the 1TB, I ordered the 512 but on the fence of upgrading to the 1TB. Not a need storage wise but tempting especially knowing the spec bump in M4 chips.
How do you plan on using the iPad Pro, that's what should really determine what you do.
But I do NOT agree with them having a more limited chip on a Pro Model. If it's a Pro, then give them both the same chip so we don't have to even make a choice.
@@briantong I mostly use the 11" iPad Pro as a notebook w/ Goodnotes & Notability Apps & to watch media when needing to be more mobile & when multi-tasking as opposed to editing at this time but want to have the right tool for the job if I desire to do/learn more. I learned about the chip difference after my purchase but still thinking I got the most bang for my buck for what I need. Hmmmm
@@FFCOACHDAN There’s also double RAM with the 1TB models, from 8GB to 16GB. In my opinion though unless you plan to use it for intense graphics, editing or gaming stuff it should be plenty powerful with the 512GB model. Keeping in mind it’s still a stronger processor than the M2 chip in the iPad Air and that would still power through the tasks you described.
@@briantong I broke down, couldn’t resist the best M4 chip & 1TB model, it is snappy and beautiful screen! Such joy today! LOL
I just want an updated iPad mini pro!
I got the Combo Touch with my 12.9 M1, I thought and still think it’s a better option at least for me.
But can you actually use the combo on your lap for extended everyday use, anywhere? And not overbalance, wobble & generally be inconvenient like the last models?
The black USBC is where it’s at! BAM!
I still have 2019 iPad pro 12.9 it enough power for me what m4 will do why do I need it ???
I like the matte screen better
😂 you are as always doing a great job and always love your laughter. I’m not sure that I upgrade from my M1 Pro cause it still fill my needs😎 keep up the good job👍🏻
Brian, bruh! Getting iJustine vibes on that unboxing, lol.
Can we use the New iPad with the Old Magic Keyboard?
Nope :(
@@briantong ugh! Thanks for answering 😊 I hate Apple forces us to upgrade the whole set 😒
Can you see if Zagg Keys makes a keyboard yet for the Ipad. Also, could you please test the ESR Rebound Case?
I have a 2018 11” iPad Pro and this new iPad Pro is a game changer. I wish to purchase the 13” iPad Pro 1T to replace my 11” iPad Pro.
Really good explanation for this device
Cant wait to play Angry birds on mine! 👍🏽😜
Ummm. Did the pencil rotate off the charger when you laid it down? Will it not fit laid flat now because the iPad is too thin?!
How are the speakers?! I’m big into consuming content on my 2018 iPad Pro. So that will be a big deal
great review as always!. Wish they made a place for the pencil on the case somewhere.
Does anyone know if the nano texture screen on the iPad is the outside and therefore does it reduce the slipperiness of the Apple Pencil on the screen like Paperless?
Brian you’ve convinced me to buy the 11” cellular for my personal amusement.
I really love that logitech is making actual top quality products, I love their mouse and Im sold with the logitech combo touch case. I hate the apple magic keyboard for ipad pretty expensive and really cheap materials. My previous keyboard looks like trash even tho Im really careful with my stuff. Im lookin to updrade my ipad with this one. But I still have doubts.
The total weight(included the new case) of the new ipad pro 2024 is as same as macbook air 13 inch which is 2.7 lbs or 1.24 kg or 1240 g.
Would you recommend this set up with the pencil and keyboard OR a MacBook Pro for a college student?
It depends what your needs are. I would lean towards the MacBook Air, and save you $$$ and it has all the functionality to handle whatever college throws at you.
Dude you are hilarious, always fun watching your videos!
I just let the camera roll and whatever happens, happens! Thanks for watching!
Will the new keyboard bend backward/behind the back of the Pro, like the old soft keyboard?
Will adding a screen protector to the ipad pro make it look bad now that it is oled??
Nah, it’s just like adding one to your phone unless it’s like a cheap one maybe
Brian Tong Your the Best!!!
16:12 all i was wanting from these flooding reviews thanks
Like also the not 100% perfect recorded video, but it seems also a little bit hectic how you treat the devices.
If you don’t really do anything that you can’t do on the iPad Pro is it worth trading in you m2 MacBook Pro for this
Why would you trade in your 2-3 year old M2 MacBook Pro for an iPad? Just buy a cheaper M1 or 2018 iPad lol, there's almost no difference and the difference can only be felt if you are using it for professional work.
No. MacBook Pro battery life probably way better.
it's ok being so thin will just have to live in the magic keyboard case and possibly that protective case with the apple pencil Pro Holder 🙏🏽👍🏽
The thickness of a product is measured at the thickest location. In this case at the camera pump. Therefore it isn't the thinnest product they ever made such as the nano. Just marketing.
Apple doesn't know what the customers want. We don't need the iPad thinner. We need more battery and less bezel.
I disagree. The 12.9” iPad Pro was too heavy to hold one handed for any reasonable period of time. Having a lighter iPad is a boon. I’ve never had an issue with the battery life. Bezel-wise, they could make it a lot smaller but how would you hold it without a ton of accidental touches? By making the iPad lighter the keyboard can also be lighter, so that’s a double weight reduction.
I agree on making the bezels thinner but they can’t because the faced id sensor is thick and apple probably didn’t want a notch.
@@techinrl9869 iPad is 11" max, 13" you are talking of a laptop
@@Progamer8012 they can make camera under screen if they want to or place a notch like the iphone.
And more cowbell
Can you make a video for some rugged cases made for the ipad pro m4
Tand😊em OLED makes my heart sing! 3D modelists will feel incredible. Tear the green tab and you’re golden. Whoop! 😮.
New iPad Pro cons
▫️Apple removed the 2nd rear camera
🔸Apple removed 1 studio microphone
🔹Apple Pencil 2 won’t work with it
🔻Existing Magic Keyboard won’t work with it
🔺The M4 chip in the 256 and 512 GB models is a binned one with lower CPU and performance cores than getting an 1T or 2T model which has the fully unlocked M4 chip.
Off topic but nice meeting you at Google I/O today! I was the one who walked up the steps during the keynote and we fist bumped 👊
My Man ElantraMan!! Thanks for saying and keep up the dope tech reviews! Keep it going!
First! (Preordered the 11-inch. I am so excited to see OLED on the iPad for the first time!)
The most relevant comparison wasn't made: Apple tells us that the new Magic Keyboard is only compatible with the new M4 iPad Pro, but what happens if we slot in the M1 iPad Pro in it? Does it work?
I have an M1 iPad Pro, and I don't care about any upgrades present in the M4 one, but I do care about the newer, much better magic keyboard
is that new magic keyboard support with iPad Pro m2?
As soon as Apple allows full MacOs apps and games for run on the M4 iPAd they can have my money.
I can’t wait to pick mine up Wednesday
Thanks for comparison between M4 and M2 magic keyboards. Would you know if there is there a more substantial case that could then go over the whole magic keyboard for teenager use?
If you're talking about a soft case to go over everything, I just use a laptop case sleeve!
@@briantong Was hoping that Apple may have designed a protective cover for the iPad and the magic keyboard to make it a bit more robust for school use! That could be your next design!! Thanks for quick reply.
Do you have a suggested home screen layout? I bought the 1TB 13” and am ecstatic!
Did you sneak a Frank the Tank “wait” in there? 😂
Over here in Canada ,Québec it is expensive ,I have the 5th gen Ipad pro 128gb , maybe will do a trade -in . First time here ,nice video .
Nice review, awesome that you reviewed the Logitech as well.
So do you tubers get these products early on purpose? Expecting mine on Wednesday.
Popular ones get it early
Yes they're review units
Brain You are just too good to us!🤙🏽
🙏🙏🙏
You are totally the real true best.
Thanks for watching!
17:22 it’s interesting to figure that the total weight is lighter than a MacBook Air 13 m3