Geat video. Really appreciated the reference to Gerado Rodriguez. I got back into studying the trumpet again about 6 years ago... after six decades! Starting to sound a bit better, but still a long way to go. I'll tell you one thing I've learned, I'm never putting the horn away again for anything more than a few hours. And I'm at least doing my "basics"; Caruso, lip flexibility exercises, note bending, etc. every day. Thanks for posting.
Check out "A New Approach to Altissimo Trumpet Playing" by John H. Lynch It's from the 1980's but I think it's still in publication and it helped me reach a double C and beyond. I love it because he's a physicist that worked for NASA and was also a trumpet player looking to play high notes. It's mostly text about the embouchure and some about the equipment, there's also some exercises in the high range. I'm 61 and still playing lead above the doubles. It worked for me.
Saying "how you use the air" is still giving too much credit to the air and the breathing apparatus. Efficiency happens as a result of how the embouchure functions. Everyone from a 7th-grade student, on up to an 80-year old person has enough air power to play double-Cs. What separates those who can from those who can't is the embouchure. This podcast confirms that. All these teachers - some of them who are respected and renowned - who say that "Oh, it's all in the air, it's all about your breathing," they're just flat-out wrong. Maynard Ferguson didn't help matters by sending people down a rabbit hole with all of his bluster about Yoga breathing techniques and all of that nonsense. Maynard didn't know why he could do what he did, and if you watch Denis DeBlasio's podcast about "the high-note book" it confirms this first hand. And a lot of these respected teachers who preach about air, they are great players, but a lot of what they do with their embouchures happens so unconsciously, they don't know what's going on, so they're left to theorize and they end up theorizing incorrectly that air is more important than it is. What Rashawn is saying is absolutely correct and I'm glad that he had the courage to point it out in spite of the fact that it goes against what is preached by a lot of the conventional trumpet wisdom.
I understand and support your point. I started playing the trumpet in 1973 and stopped around 76/77 and started again around 83 and played until 87/88. I started again in 94 and played for about three years under a tutor for about two of those. I started again in 2018/9 under a tutor, this time trying to focus on technique. No one ever told me anything about embrochure or aperture and placement of the mouthpiece. I was reaching C, two lines u above the stave and playing two octaves up and down in one breath, playing to the right of the centre of my lips. When my lips got tired it was difficult to control my aperture. I read Charlie Davis on UA-cam and tried to follow his tips on mouthpiece placement and discover that my teeth didn't allow for the ideal aperture but I could attain high notes, even high C at times but using muscles I wasn't using previously, but lost the control I previously had. I'm now working to improve my embrochure by lining up my bottom lip and teeth as recommended. After recovering from COVID I'm not holding breath for 30 crotchets as before and have to take a breath near the top of the second octave, sometimes on the up, sometimes on the down, and near the bottom of the lower octave coming down. I guess that will improve with time. It seems so much easier with Charlie's method that can't believe that, or understand why, I wasn't told of this before. I find these UA-cam sessions are invaluable and intend to use them as supplementaries in the future.
@@elsonharewood7933 There are a lot of cases like yours. But what people also don't tell you (mostly because they are unaware of it themselves) is that teeth contours have EVERYTHING to do with it. To give you and oversimplified hint of what I'm talking about, crooked teeth make high notes easy. Perfectly straight and perfectly spaced teeth make them difficult. The bite also has a lot to do with it. Even bites or underbites are a big advantage. Overbites and more challenging. Not impossible but challenging. Upper front teeth that angle inward are the most challenging. Every kid who has had braces on their teeth after they started playing the trumpet always says that the high notes were much easier before the braces than after.
I've been trying to pump out a scale, for almost a year. To see kids playing, flawlessly, and I'm an old man and cant do a scale...man! but its building my lungs back up from COVID & Pneumonia & a TIA. Thanks for your views!
@@general5104 Try deep breathing, holding your breath for long periods, and exhaling slowly. This will help in your phrasing. I tried counting to 60 and started exhaling at 40, most phrases would be less than a minute so that as a guide would help. You could also try walking and do some deep breathing while walking. I'm also looking at circular breathing which is breathing through the nose while playing.
I reckon it is like whistling. Some guys can, some guys can't. Except there's some radically different ways of whistling whereas the brass thing seems much more limited. But I reckon just like whistling those who can don't really know how come they can. They can tell you what they remember about how they got there. They can try and describe to you what they're doing when they're doing it. But they know bugger all about how other guys got there or what they're doing and even less about what's going to work for you... For me I suspect a big 'secret' is that it is found by delicacy, not by force. I say 'secret' because I've never ever seen it said: be delicate. Though I've seen some come close. This is the best I've found yet: ua-cam.com/video/KYM1e5acUQA/v-deo.html
Check out Doc Reinhardt compression studies. Play high c d e d c slurred soft thin asthmatic, rest them c d e f g f e d c same. Then arpeggio c e g e c. Slurred chromatic low c down to f# back up tp low c. These exercises are for response. Doc “ the squeaker today is a note of tomorrow. Look on line for his encyclopedia of brass cupped instruments for background.
There are like 5 major methods. Only one is likely to work for your combination of lips, teeth, tongue. Each one you try will take a few years to perfect.
@@kireduk2217 the oral cavity does not create air pressure. When playing a tone, the primary resistance is the instrument , the secondary resistance is the lip aperture, the resistance of the oral space is negligible compared to those. Narrowing the oral space to the point of creating a significant resistance will reduce the air pressure bearing on the aperture.
@@darryljones9208 in that respect, a typical straw and a coffee stirrer would have the same blow and the miniscule measurements between mpc throat, backbore, and tpt leadpipe sizes would be negligible. Releasing a breath of air is significantly less resisted by an "aw" than a "sss". You can add at both ends of the equation. I'm not saying you're wrong that exhalation effort isn't a factor. It is not, however, the only variable that determines pressure.
Too much talk on these vids saying a lot of nothing. All these comments saying how good this is but they’ve actually not told anybody how to do anything. Ends up saying I just figured it out for myself. Ok thanks for nothing and wasting my time listening to that rubbish
The Stevens-Costello is utter garbage that has ruined thousands of players over the years. Roy Stevens was a con artist who used to take a broken player, make them play with an upstream embouchure and pinch and squeeze until the faintest hint of a double C came out, then used that to sucker them into paying him a lot of money for lessons for years and years.
Love Rashawn's comments and vibe in this interview. Great communicator!
Geat video. Really appreciated the reference to Gerado Rodriguez.
I got back into studying the trumpet again about 6 years ago... after six decades! Starting to sound a bit better, but still a long way to go.
I'll tell you one thing I've learned, I'm never putting the horn away again for anything more than a few hours. And I'm at least doing my "basics"; Caruso, lip flexibility exercises, note bending, etc. every day. Thanks for posting.
Heard Ross on some award show this past year and he was playing some lick above the staff over and over and over for like forever. Amazing player. jw
Super helpful information thank you so much Jose!
Glad it was helpful!
Check out "A New Approach to Altissimo Trumpet Playing" by John H. Lynch It's from the 1980's but I think it's still in publication and it helped me reach a double C and beyond. I love it because he's a physicist that worked for NASA and was also a trumpet player looking to play high notes. It's mostly text about the embouchure and some about the equipment, there's also some exercises in the high range.
I'm 61 and still playing lead above the doubles. It worked for me.
Love this and love Reinhardt too 😎 thank you for posting this!! 🏆⭐️😎🎺❤️
awesome podcast. I learned a lot... thx
Saying "how you use the air" is still giving too much credit to the air and the breathing apparatus. Efficiency happens as a result of how the embouchure functions. Everyone from a 7th-grade student, on up to an 80-year old person has enough air power to play double-Cs. What separates those who can from those who can't is the embouchure. This podcast confirms that. All these teachers - some of them who are respected and renowned - who say that "Oh, it's all in the air, it's all about your breathing," they're just flat-out wrong. Maynard Ferguson didn't help matters by sending people down a rabbit hole with all of his bluster about Yoga breathing techniques and all of that nonsense. Maynard didn't know why he could do what he did, and if you watch Denis DeBlasio's podcast about "the high-note book" it confirms this first hand. And a lot of these respected teachers who preach about air, they are great players, but a lot of what they do with their embouchures happens so unconsciously, they don't know what's going on, so they're left to theorize and they end up theorizing incorrectly that air is more important than it is. What Rashawn is saying is absolutely correct and I'm glad that he had the courage to point it out in spite of the fact that it goes against what is preached by a lot of the conventional trumpet wisdom.
I understand and support your point. I started playing the trumpet in 1973 and stopped around 76/77 and started again around 83 and played until 87/88. I started again in 94 and played for about three years under a tutor for about two of those. I started again in 2018/9 under a tutor, this time trying to focus on technique. No one ever told me anything about embrochure or aperture and placement of the mouthpiece. I was reaching C, two lines u above the stave and playing two octaves up and down in one breath, playing to the right of the centre of my lips. When my lips got tired it was difficult to control my aperture. I read Charlie Davis on UA-cam and tried to follow his tips on mouthpiece placement and discover that my teeth didn't allow for the ideal aperture but I could attain high notes, even high C at times but using muscles I wasn't using previously, but lost the control I previously had. I'm now working to improve my embrochure by lining up my bottom lip and teeth as recommended. After recovering from COVID I'm not holding breath for 30 crotchets as before and have to take a breath near the top of the second octave, sometimes on the up, sometimes on the down, and near the bottom of the lower octave coming down. I guess that will improve with time. It seems so much easier with Charlie's method that can't believe that, or understand why, I wasn't told of this before. I find these UA-cam sessions are invaluable and intend to use them as supplementaries in the future.
@@elsonharewood7933 There are a lot of cases like yours. But what people also don't tell you (mostly because they are unaware of it themselves) is that teeth contours have EVERYTHING to do with it. To give you and oversimplified hint of what I'm talking about, crooked teeth make high notes easy. Perfectly straight and perfectly spaced teeth make them difficult. The bite also has a lot to do with it. Even bites or underbites are a big advantage. Overbites and more challenging. Not impossible but challenging. Upper front teeth that angle inward are the most challenging. Every kid who has had braces on their teeth after they started playing the trumpet always says that the high notes were much easier before the braces than after.
I've been trying to pump out a scale, for almost a year. To see kids playing, flawlessly, and I'm an old man and cant do a scale...man! but its building my lungs back up from COVID & Pneumonia & a TIA. Thanks for your views!
The name Bryan Davis of "Airflow" fame
@@general5104 Try deep breathing, holding your breath for long periods, and exhaling slowly. This will help in your phrasing. I tried counting to 60 and started exhaling at 40, most phrases would be less than a minute so that as a guide would help. You could also try walking and do some deep breathing while walking. I'm also looking at circular breathing which is breathing through the nose while playing.
I really enjoyed your comments Rashawn. Very encouraging.
What mouthpiece do you play on ? Is it a narrow rim or medium wide,? Just curious
Thank you
this channel is so good! top quality content, but could activate subtitles in portuguese and spanish....
Thank you for the suggestion. I will certainly look into that!
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I reckon it is like whistling. Some guys can, some guys can't. Except there's some radically different ways of whistling whereas the brass thing seems much more limited. But I reckon just like whistling those who can don't really know how come they can. They can tell you what they remember about how they got there. They can try and describe to you what they're doing when they're doing it. But they know bugger all about how other guys got there or what they're doing and even less about what's going to work for you...
For me I suspect a big 'secret' is that it is found by delicacy, not by force. I say 'secret' because I've never ever seen it said: be delicate. Though I've seen some come close. This is the best I've found yet: ua-cam.com/video/KYM1e5acUQA/v-deo.html
What book is he talking about?
Who is this Larry that he mentions couple of times?
He's referring to Larry Meregillano. Check out Episode 82 if you want to learn more about Larry.
Check out Doc Reinhardt compression studies. Play high c
d e d c slurred soft thin asthmatic, rest them c d e f g f e d c same. Then arpeggio c e g e c. Slurred chromatic low c down to f# back up tp low c. These exercises are for response. Doc “ the squeaker today is a note of tomorrow. Look on line for his encyclopedia of brass cupped instruments for background.
There are like 5 major methods. Only one is likely to work for your combination of lips, teeth, tongue. Each one you try will take a few years to perfect.
What book and videos is Rashawn talking at 8:20 /8:33 ??? (Names please, thank you) Cheers from Liechtenstein (Europe)
Embouchure Self-Analysis, The Stevens-Costello Embouchure Technique (Complete)
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Air pressure is not created in the oral cavity. It is by the exhalation effort.
Air pressure is created by the resistance of the exhalation, which can be provided by the oral cavity.
@@kireduk2217 the oral cavity does not create air pressure. When playing a tone, the primary resistance is the instrument , the secondary resistance is the lip aperture, the resistance of the oral space is negligible compared to those.
Narrowing the oral space to the point of creating a significant resistance will reduce the air pressure bearing on the aperture.
@@darryljones9208 in that respect, a typical straw and a coffee stirrer would have the same blow and the miniscule measurements between mpc throat, backbore, and tpt leadpipe sizes would be negligible.
Releasing a breath of air is significantly less resisted by an "aw" than a "sss".
You can add at both ends of the equation. I'm not saying you're wrong that exhalation effort isn't a factor. It is not, however, the only variable that determines pressure.
Resistance is not pressure, nor does it determine the pressure. It DOES determine the resulting flow for a particular pressure.
Exhaling without an oral cavity = wind blowing freely. Hold your trumpet up to the air without an oral cavity and listen to the sound it makes.
Who's being interviewed here? Let the guest speak.
Yes! Jose talks too much. Ask a simple question, and then let Rashawn talk.
@@thomasbarreca6305 it’s a conversation not an interview
Too much talk on these vids saying a lot of nothing. All these comments saying how good this is but they’ve actually not told anybody how to do anything. Ends up saying I just figured it out for myself. Ok thanks for nothing and wasting my time listening to that rubbish
Then quit complaining and go practice.
@@DillonM-mc6yw I do smartass 🖕
@@DillonM-mc6yw are you who I think you are? jw
@@johnwilder8517 I’m going to assume not, John. Who knows, though? Maybe
I agreed.
The Stevens-Costello is utter garbage that has ruined thousands of players over the years. Roy Stevens was a con artist who used to take a broken player, make them play with an upstream embouchure and pinch and squeeze until the faintest hint of a double C came out, then used that to sucker them into paying him a lot of money for lessons for years and years.