Love your channel. I am a Bagmaker that primarily uses an industrial machine for these projects. I recently bought the HD9BE 🖤🖤🖤 and it is such a work horse. i especially love it because I can stand while sewing because of the table extension and the larger foot pedal.
@@janomejunkies2044what I find interesting is that my Janome dealer gets it wrong too. Had to return bobbins that didn't fit. Only their oldest pack was right.
Is it the same as the hd9 or the 1600? I want to learn to make bags, use denim etc without taxing my domestic. I definitely want the extension table too but heard the elna doesn’t come with one.
@@user-vm4fv6oy9u Yes it's the same as the HD9 or the 1600. You can even use their parts. Janome makes Elna Machines. I bought the extension table but I'm not using it because I have my machine in a cabinet.
So which is better for FMQ, the Janome HD9 or Juki TL18QVP? The features look similar, the bigger bobbin is a plus, but does one machine give you better results over the other?
@@janomejunkies2044 Did you make a video about this? I too am considering both machines and wondering about the differences. I want to mainly sew bags, but also want the ability to create the odd garment.
Thank you for showing this well designed video. You inform, that the max thread size for these machines are a Tex 70 thread. I like, that you use Tex-value to describe thread size, because international standards describe, what it means. You got other thread size information, that is incomprehensible. I looked the "Instruction book" to the HD9, and it got a table that specify needle sizes and thread sizes to be used at page 32. The thread sizes are named #20, #30, #50, and #60. #20 Is the thickest thread. Can you translate these Janome named thread sizes to a Tex value? All my vintage household sewing machines handles Tex 70 thread with no problem and several of them handles thicker thread than that. So I am a bit surprised, that these machines are limited to Tex 70 size thread.
www.gunzetal.com/enwap/servicestools/threadsizeconverter/ Here is a converter for Tex threads. The issue is this machine uses house hold needles which limits the thread size. It can handle more but its the needles that limits it :)
@@janomejunkies2044 Thanks you your answer. You can get household needles up to size 22/140, and such needles can sew Tex 135 thread. However they may have a bit longer point. Therefore the design of the machine may limit the size of needle, you can use. Vintage household machines like Singer 66, 201, and 237 are specified up to size 21/130 needles. But the HD9 specify needle size up to only 18/110, and it do limit thread size for this machine to use. I think the thread size numbers Janome uses are not able to be used in your referenced thread size converter. What Tex value do you think a #20 Janome thread is?
@@viggob4816 I totally agree with you. I scratch my head with the whole HD9 and i honestly see the value of $2000 when a HD3000 can do that exact same. i just bought one and as you mention I got a 22/140 and see T135 maybe even larger is possible T210?. If needle length is a issue I will likely take it off the top with a dremel. the whole needle sizing to thread is a absolute guessing game, not defined AT ALL. very frustrating
@@meanodustino9563 I have seen videos of a modified Pfaff 30 and a Singer 201 sew Tex 210 thread with a 22/140 needle in 6 layers of vinyl. The modifications include the motor drive and beehive tension spring, but it seems that these "not heavy duty" basic design of machines can sew much heavier jobs than a HD9. I think T210 is very much of the limit and perhaps over the limit for these machines after all. But Tex 135 is OK. The videos provided actually show how good the slow speed control is and the quality of the stitch: ua-cam.com/video/21D5S8ihspI/v-deo.html I should like to see videos like that of the HD9 and HD3000, that show the real performance on some real heavy jobs.
@@viggob4816 Size 22 household needle?? A size 22 would be for an industrial sewing machine not a home sewing machine. The shaft would need to be flat and not rounded (industrial machines). I know people love the older machines and like to push them beyond what they are capable of sewing, but you risk damaging the motor when pushing these machines beyond their limit. If you want industrial quality and strength, then purchase an industrial machine. I bet the HD9 can handle TEX 70 thread, and if that isn't thick enough, just use a topstitch thread. As for the thread weights mentioned in the manual, these are not Janome's thread sizes. These are sizes set by the textile industry. Thread weights 40/50 would be pretty standard for most home sewing projects, the lower the number the thicker the thread. The TEX numbers are just the opposite...the higher the number the thicker the thread. It is recommended that you do not use a commercial thread heavier than V69/TEX70. I tested the V69 on my machine, but I prefer the topstitch thread because it looks thicker. The 40 weight thread would equal TEX25
I have a HD9BE. His name is Quincy. He is my favorite. I have been using my machine for bag making. The 2 issues I have with him is I am not able to get the stitch plate off to clean and I am really bad with tension. I got him in December so I have 4 months before a yearly service is due but I may go early. I can only imagine how much debris is under that plate. I believe I read somewhere that righty tightly, lefty loosely does NOT apply to this machine. Any suggestions?
Sometimes loosening the screws for the first time its tough. Maybe after the service ask them to keep it hand tight so you can loosen it easier. Also what tool are you using to try to loosen the plate?
Great Video. I have been looking at these machines and I have also been looking at the Juki TL18QVP. If you had to choose one of these machines, which one would you choose? I have the Janome MC8200QCP, but it doesn't push the fabric through when I'm working with several layers. I'm looking for a straight stitch machine. So which machine is better?
Should the large screw that typically goes on with the T device also be used to put different feet on my HD9 V2? Others on the Janome forum indicate it is easier to change feet when using the larger screw. It does not appear to work on my machine. The feet fall off the post.
I've been watching your machine comparisons. I make bags and can't decide between the Janome HD9 vs Juki TL18QVP 🤔. Prices are very outrageous in Canada. I would love the Janome HD9, but it is way more expensive than the Juki TL18. What are your thoughts between these two machines?
Is there any difference (beside color and the extension table) between the HD9 and HD9BE? I was told by a local dealer that the motor on the BE was better because it was the newest model. Is this true?
The only differences between the BE and the regular HD-9 is the color and extension table. If you were told anything other than that you were lied to for a sale.
Enjoying this video, however the creaking of the tripod or whatever is in the back ground is so off putting and sometimes blocks out some of the sound.
Look at the silver plate, (where the model and serial numbers are on the back of your machine and if you have version 2 you will see a [V2] in the bottom left corner of that plate.
I have a Janome 1600P which is set up with a quilt frame. I have been trying to do free motion quilting with it and I have had trouble with missed stitches. I have changed the needle, re-threaded the machine and can't figure out what the problem is. Any suggestions?
You definitely need to wear a Lavalier microphone or have the camera a lot closer. We could barely hear you If you watch Vanessa at the UA-cam channel called the crafty Gemini her microphone quality is excellent She promotes the Jukie however that’s not the point I just want you to compare her quality of recording against yours
@@janomejunkies2044 you also might want to contact Cindy and she has a UA-cam channel called the Fabric Patch. She has a quilt shop in a somewhat remote area of Washington state. She uses an iPhone I believe for her filming and recently purchased some type of microphone because we could barely hear what she was saying
Love your channel. I am a Bagmaker that primarily uses an industrial machine for these projects. I recently bought the HD9BE 🖤🖤🖤 and it is such a work horse. i especially love it because I can stand while sewing because of the table extension and the larger foot pedal.
Thank you for the kind comment! I'm glad you're loving your HD9BE.
Thanks for noting the bobbin difference. For V2 users, it's usually a bit harder to find those bobbins in stock at shops.
Give us a call we can get you the bobbins if needed :) 813-661-9000 M-F 10AM-4PM est
What makes the V2 different other than bobbins?
@@janomejunkies2044what I find interesting is that my Janome dealer gets it wrong too. Had to return bobbins that didn't fit. Only their oldest pack was right.
I have the Elna Elnita EF1 which is the same as well. Made by Janome and a cute green color :)
Is it the same as the hd9 or the 1600? I want to learn to make bags, use denim etc without taxing my domestic. I definitely want the extension table too but heard the elna doesn’t come with one.
@@user-vm4fv6oy9u Yes it's the same as the HD9 or the 1600. You can even use their parts. Janome makes Elna Machines. I bought the extension table but I'm not using it because I have my machine in a cabinet.
Super informative video!! Thank you for posting this. ❤️
That was an excellent review. The additional 40% on bobbin size has sold me on the HD9.
Me too. Cheaper too😅😮😢😅
Heh there. Will the 1600P-QC hold up to consistent bag making?
So which is better for FMQ, the Janome HD9 or Juki TL18QVP? The features look similar, the bigger bobbin is a plus, but does one machine give you better results over the other?
That's a great question please email me sewingmachines411@gmail.com so I can elaborate. Or call us at 813-661-9000 10AM-4PM EST M-F.
It would be great to hear how these machines are for FMQ!
I would love to know if they work well for that!
@@janomejunkies2044 Did you make a video about this? I too am considering both machines and wondering about the differences. I want to mainly sew bags, but also want the ability to create the odd garment.
Enjoyed watching your informative video. I have heard that the HD9 and the 1600P machines are a bit loud. Can you comment? Thank you.
Great video, thanks
Thank you so much for this video!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for showing this well designed video. You inform, that the max thread size for these machines are a Tex 70 thread. I like, that you use Tex-value to describe thread size, because international standards describe, what it means. You got other thread size information, that is incomprehensible. I looked the "Instruction book" to the HD9, and it got a table that specify needle sizes and thread sizes to be used at page 32. The thread sizes are named #20, #30, #50, and #60. #20 Is the thickest thread. Can you translate these Janome named thread sizes to a Tex value?
All my vintage household sewing machines handles Tex 70 thread with no problem and several of them handles thicker thread than that. So I am a bit surprised, that these machines are limited to Tex 70 size thread.
www.gunzetal.com/enwap/servicestools/threadsizeconverter/
Here is a converter for Tex threads. The issue is this machine uses house hold needles which limits the thread size. It can handle more but its the needles that limits it :)
@@janomejunkies2044 Thanks you your answer. You can get household needles up to size 22/140, and such needles can sew Tex 135 thread. However they may have a bit longer point. Therefore the design of the machine may limit the size of needle, you can use. Vintage household machines like Singer 66, 201, and 237 are specified up to size 21/130 needles. But the HD9 specify needle size up to only 18/110, and it do limit thread size for this machine to use.
I think the thread size numbers Janome uses are not able to be used in your referenced thread size converter. What Tex value do you think a #20 Janome thread is?
@@viggob4816 I totally agree with you. I scratch my head with the whole HD9 and i honestly see the value of $2000 when a HD3000 can do that exact same. i just bought one and as you mention I got a 22/140 and see T135 maybe even larger is possible T210?. If needle length is a issue I will likely take it off the top with a dremel. the whole needle sizing to thread is a absolute guessing game, not defined AT ALL. very frustrating
@@meanodustino9563 I have seen videos of a modified Pfaff 30 and a Singer 201 sew Tex 210 thread with a 22/140 needle in 6 layers of vinyl. The modifications include the motor drive and beehive tension spring, but it seems that these "not heavy duty" basic design of machines can sew much heavier jobs than a HD9. I think T210 is very much of the limit and perhaps over the limit for these machines after all. But Tex 135 is OK. The videos provided actually show how good the slow speed control is and the quality of the stitch: ua-cam.com/video/21D5S8ihspI/v-deo.html
I should like to see videos like that of the HD9 and HD3000, that show the real performance on some real heavy jobs.
@@viggob4816 Size 22 household needle?? A size 22 would be for an industrial sewing machine not a home sewing machine. The shaft would need to be flat and not rounded (industrial machines). I know people love the older machines and like to push them beyond what they are capable of sewing, but you risk damaging the motor when pushing these machines beyond their limit. If you want industrial quality and strength, then purchase an industrial machine. I bet the HD9 can handle TEX 70 thread, and if that isn't thick enough, just use a topstitch thread. As for the thread weights mentioned in the manual, these are not Janome's thread sizes. These are sizes set by the textile industry. Thread weights 40/50 would be pretty standard for most home sewing projects, the lower the number the thicker the thread. The TEX numbers are just the opposite...the higher the number the thicker the thread. It is recommended that you do not use a commercial thread heavier than V69/TEX70. I tested the V69 on my machine, but I prefer the topstitch thread because it looks thicker. The 40 weight thread would equal TEX25
I have a HD9BE. His name is Quincy. He is my favorite. I have been using my machine for bag making. The 2 issues I have with him is I am not able to get the stitch plate off to clean and I am really bad with tension. I got him in December so I have 4 months before a yearly service is due but I may go early. I can only imagine how much debris is under that plate. I believe I read somewhere that righty tightly, lefty loosely does NOT apply to this machine. Any suggestions?
Sometimes loosening the screws for the first time its tough. Maybe after the service ask them to keep it hand tight so you can loosen it easier. Also what tool are you using to try to loosen the plate?
@@janomejunkies2044 Thank you. The screwdrivers that came with it and other small screwdrivers.
I bought a set of Craftsman Z Screwdrivers at the hardware store today and successfully removed the screws🎉🎊🪅
Great Video. I have been looking at these machines and I have also been looking at the Juki TL18QVP. If you had to choose one of these machines, which one would you choose? I have the Janome MC8200QCP, but it doesn't push the fabric through when I'm working with several layers. I'm looking for a straight stitch machine. So which machine is better?
I'm at the same crossroad. Which did you choose?
@hollyhall1948 After watching some video's, I went with the Janome HD9BE. It had more power.
Could you speak to the lighting on these machines? Lighting is an important feature that I'd be interested in knowing about.
Should the large screw that typically goes on with the T device also be used to put different feet on my HD9 V2? Others on the Janome forum indicate it is easier to change feet when using the larger screw. It does not appear to work on my machine. The feet fall off the post.
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How many amps and watts are shown on the back of the machine? If the wattage is not listed, what is the voltage and amps?
120v
Really helpful video, thanks!
Someone said that the black edition is a bit quieter. How do you feel about this?
I've been watching your machine comparisons. I make bags and can't decide between the Janome HD9 vs Juki TL18QVP 🤔. Prices are very outrageous in Canada. I would love the Janome HD9, but it is way more expensive than the Juki TL18. What are your thoughts between these two machines?
Interesting 😮😅😮😊
Is there any difference (beside color and the extension table) between the HD9 and HD9BE? I was told by a local dealer that the motor on the BE was better because it was the newest model. Is this true?
The only differences between the BE and the regular HD-9 is the color and extension table. If you were told anything other than that you were lied to for a sale.
Can you drop the feed dogs?
are the pressure feet interchangeable between the 1600 and the HD9? or do you need to purchase feet for both machines independently?
also, If you have a tex 70 thread to use for the 1600 can you use a guetermann (?) in the bobbin that is a different weight?
When using Tex 45 bonded poly thread, what size needle do I use & which thread path?
'thank you!
What's different on the HD9 version 2?
Enjoying this video, however the creaking of the tripod or whatever is in the back ground is so off putting and sometimes blocks out some of the sound.
So Sorry we are learning still :)
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I love it!
where can I see what version of hd9 that I have?
Look at the silver plate, (where the model and serial numbers are on the back of your machine and if you have version 2 you will see a [V2] in the bottom left corner of that plate.
What about Manville the Manatee?
HAHA Manville was tired...
Hallo madam
I need one where can I get one
Please let me know which shop that sells it
Call us 813-661-9000 10am-4pm est M-F!
What is a comparable Juki model to these?
I have a Janome 1600P-QC
wish I had pushed to buy an HD instead of the Elnita.
you didnt mention how much better the lighting is on hd9
Un bijou la hd9
Hallo madam
How can I get it in Africa
I have a Janome 1600P which is set up with a quilt frame. I have been trying to do free motion quilting with it and I have had trouble with missed stitches. I have changed the needle, re-threaded the machine and can't figure out what the problem is. Any suggestions?
Hi,I am trying to find a janome machine,I used this machine to make flower skirts and I want to get one,how much is these please
Call us anytime :) 813-661-9000
Does the extension table come as a standard accessory with the HD9 or is it a separate purchase?
The regular HD-9 its separate. The black edition comes with it.
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You definitely need to wear a Lavalier microphone or have the camera a lot closer. We could barely hear you
If you watch Vanessa at the UA-cam channel called the crafty Gemini her microphone quality is excellent
She promotes the Jukie however that’s not the point I just want you to compare her quality of recording against yours
Thank you, we will be upgrading some equipment shortly :)
@@janomejunkies2044 you also might want to contact Cindy and she has a UA-cam channel called the Fabric Patch. She has a quilt shop in a somewhat remote area of Washington state. She uses an iPhone I believe for her filming and recently purchased some type of microphone because we could barely hear what she was saying
You need a microphone.
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