The Value of Musical Simplicity

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  • @VenusTheory
    @VenusTheory  Рік тому +22

    So interesting question then: what's the least amount of tracks you've used in a project? 🤔
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    • @JasonGillmanJr
      @JasonGillmanJr Рік тому +2

      I only used three tracks when I made my demo track for Isometra

    • @philmarsh5593
      @philmarsh5593 Рік тому +1

      4. Cassette multitracker back in the 80s - 8 at the most then with lots of track bouncing going on. TBH even now with a DAW its always generally less than 20, even with drums on their own tracks. I have a hard time coming up with little filler/fluff bits that are only there to dress the track.

    • @davecorkum161
      @davecorkum161 Рік тому +2

      Late 70's, early 80's I had a Portastudio 4 track cassette, giving me 7 tracks after bouncing. I had a TR808, Minimoog, guitars and effects pedals. Not bad for high school

    • @MrKelegorm
      @MrKelegorm Рік тому

      12-16 tracks. Drums is one track mostly. Some tracks is just effects. Another tracks mostly melodic stiff: bass lines, arps, melodies, chords, pads. And some old versions of parties keep few tracks.

    • @MistyMusicStudio
      @MistyMusicStudio Рік тому

      I find ambient guitar or keys + nature sounds only needs 2 tracks. For Lofi I'll hook up my elektron cycles and Boss GT-1 together and do drums / guitar / bass on a single track while my buddy gets his own track to play guitar over it all. We run both tracks through the Arturia Mello-Fi + my master chain - works great! Just gotta record with good levels.
      There are some fantastic Motown documentaries where you can find entire bands carefully managing their velocity to create a good mix in the room with only 2 mics 😮 T'was a different time for sure.

  • @evrendagdelen9595
    @evrendagdelen9595 Рік тому +294

    i just want to share with you that today i landed my first job in music after three years since i started. having gone through all ups and downs of creating art, i have to say that it's so satisfying in the end when you feel like it's heading to something tangible. it's partly thanks to people like you who keep feeding those of us behind the screen with valuable information and your positive perspective. so, thanks for that.

    • @samliske1482
      @samliske1482 Рік тому +16

      Congrats 🎉 love hearing things like this

    • @kdgnz0-889
      @kdgnz0-889 Рік тому +8

      That's awesome! Good luck on your new journey!

    • @ranradd
      @ranradd Рік тому +6

      Awesome! Congrats and all the best. That is inspiring.

    • @lucaslutzerler5429
      @lucaslutzerler5429 Рік тому +4

      Congratulations 🍀

    • @torgenxblazterzoid
      @torgenxblazterzoid Рік тому +4

      Nice one, Evren. I don't know you but, good to hear from someone who's beginning to live the dream 🙂

  • @rajakhan2668
    @rajakhan2668 Рік тому +70

    You don't write songs, you discover them! - Venus Theory❣️

    • @Mikigami
      @Mikigami Рік тому

      Nah, that's a famous quote, however, I don't remember by whom

    • @mmyz7
      @mmyz7 Рік тому +2

      I have always thought the same thing before hearing this guy say it!! That's why it's amazing, because when I used to be into the flow when I first started producing on Reason years ago, I thought the same thing. I took a break for a while as my life wasn't in the best place, and that thought kind of lost some meaning to me. My passion for creating was violently re-sparked by my favourite artist inviting me backstage during ADE, and the universe seems kind of on a journey to bring me back into music with new meaning, this guy is part of it. Teaching me values I kind of already/intrinsically knew, but with a different perspective. Love it.

    • @westernnoir4808
      @westernnoir4808 Рік тому

      Somebody who hasn't spent long hours chipping away at a lyrical block of marble.
      Maybe you don't know the Hemingway quote about sitting in front of a blank sheet of paper and bleeding on the page.

  • @squishrabbit
    @squishrabbit Рік тому +76

    Couple of weeks ago I decided to make an entire album in 2 weeks. Raced through it cranking out tunes with no time to fiddle obsessively with details and: I actually ended up really pleased with the end result. Most of the neurotic polishing I normally do is close to being a waste of time

    • @GothProfessor
      @GothProfessor Рік тому

      ^^^^ Same!

    • @LukeSly91
      @LukeSly91 Рік тому +7

      The final 10% of finishing a track can be an unhinged nightmare. I'm almost never fully satisfied w the final mix, but I eventually just a reach a point and say fuck it, its done. Let's upload. You truly can spend an infinite amount of time in the final stage, but learning to know when to pull the trigger is almost an art form in and of itself lol

  • @ZpheroOfficial
    @ZpheroOfficial Рік тому +18

    "you don't write songs, you just kind of discover them" Venus theory -22
    This might be one of the best and most true quotes i have heard from any musician. I usually say "all music is good music in someones ears" wich i feel have a bit of the same feeling to it.

  • @GloveBunniesVideos
    @GloveBunniesVideos Рік тому +27

    I've forced myself to do all my writing in Reason. Once I have the song where I like it so much I cannot possible fuss with it anymore, I then export it as stems and import that into Logic. This forces me to only mix and engineer in Logic and not keep 2nd guessing my writing decisions. This might seem silly, but I've had songs that have taken me over a year because I get into the loop of writing, mixing, writing, mixing, engineering, re-writing, etc. and getting nowhere. Thanks for this video, it's very reassuring!

    • @ravenatorful
      @ravenatorful Рік тому +12

      Using logic and reason to your advantage, nice

    • @mojsterr
      @mojsterr Рік тому +4

      @@ravenatorful Haha

    • @derrickwayne4627
      @derrickwayne4627 Рік тому +1

      @@ravenatorful lmao that is an epic comment

    • @teamvrains1320
      @teamvrains1320 Рік тому +1

      Ah I know the pain go on rewriting n mix recording making like 5 to 10 different versions of the song

    • @groovethief711
      @groovethief711 Рік тому

      i do the same but using renoise and cubase.

  • @martinlymer9535
    @martinlymer9535 Рік тому +8

    I find it useful to remember that a good chunk of the best rock and pop songs were made by a drummer, two guitars and singer.

  • @PauLtus_B
    @PauLtus_B Рік тому +31

    One of the things I often find myself doing is that after I made something I like, I decide to give it some clean up getting rid of ugly bit by ugly bit.
    Then by the end of it, I bypass all that clean up and it sounds much richer than after all that attention.
    What I often find what happens is that in some attempt to be perfect I kill most of the character of a sound.

    • @Pictor13
      @Pictor13 Рік тому +12

      This is a lesson to remember about every single topic or activity.
      Perfection comes just with practice and (mostly) time! Trying to immediately achieve it (or just the expectation of it) will kill the real beauty of what you are doing.
      In music, in programming software, in drawing, organising an event or in planning a travelling 🙂
      The illusion of perfection makes us sterilise our work; and sterilisation is about killing what’s alive.
      Dirty & from the heart it’s usually better ♥

    • @BeridotSegas
      @BeridotSegas Рік тому

      sometimes you need to add a little back of what you lost in the process...

    • @PauLtus_B
      @PauLtus_B Рік тому +1

      I find the aim for perfection really kills a process.
      I recently gave up on trying to make something good and made more progress than I've done in ages.
      When it comes to clean up, I am not doing more than some compression/maximising and a low pass and high pass.
      I've also learned there's not much of a point in being very subtle with effects. It might sound nice in solo but you have to commit to it otherwise it'll just be some extra noise in your mix.

    • @bAvt_xyz
      @bAvt_xyz Рік тому

      THIS

  • @aquaticborealis4877
    @aquaticborealis4877 Рік тому +8

    99.9999% of people will never notice stuff like eq tweaks or half the things musician/producers fret over.
    The OXI One looks very cool. Having an interface that helps you flow and express with both hardware and software is definitely the ideal. Mouse clicking and complicated interfaces/menu diving is a vibe/workflow killer. Music interfaces are a labyrinth that can gobble people up for years. Just wanna make music. I’ve thought maybe the Deluge is the ultimate machine for this kind of thing, but I don’t know how easy it can map to stuff in your DAW, and vice versa. Maybe the OXI One is as good or better in this respect. The OXI One looks to have wonderful sequencing capabilities that would help creatively. The benefit of the Deluge over something like the OXI One is it’s internal synth engines, and it’s portability. You don’t need anything else. You can also do sampling through its microphone. Its sequencing capabilities are insane, but I guess that can be a downside if you want to limit yourself. It’s very tactile, but the shortcuts take time to learn into muscle memory.

    • @derrickwayne4627
      @derrickwayne4627 Рік тому

      yes omg i used to obsess over eq until i thought it sounded perfect and would listen to it the next day like "how tf did i demolish such a great idea" 😂 now i only hp to 20hz and lp to 10khz and remove only the piercing frequencies that compression couldnt manage, and limit myself to a single boost at the best part

  • @PoipleBabby
    @PoipleBabby Рік тому +28

    I watch a fair bit of music production side of youtube, you are top-tier at content production, as well as being a very talented artist. Your aesthetic presentation of the information definitely helps sell the information in the video.

  • @octaverengopa1147
    @octaverengopa1147 Рік тому +4

    "you don't write songs, you just kind of discover them" made me instant sub great video thanks

  • @iantanner7579
    @iantanner7579 Рік тому +9

    Superb advice, and very insightful.
    As someone who started messing around with electronica back in the mid 80s, - after getting into the London hip-hop scene, and then later the Acid and breakbeat scenes, - I often find it alarming at just how many people spend way too much time trying to make a sound fit via corrective plugin usage, or layering, instead of getting the sound correct at source.
    Most of the early, and now often classic, Detroit techno, Acid, UK Breakbeat, etc was created on a compact mixer, usually either a Mackie or Soundcraft, with simple eq cuts performed on said desk, maybe some graphic eq, cheap DBX and Drawmer compressors, maybe an Alesis Quadraverb, some pedals, and a Lexicon PCM, if very lucky.
    The closest thing I had to a computer was my Akai ASQ-10, the MPC60ii and an S-950.
    I'm no great musician, and have only ever approached my creative outlet as a form of aural therapy, that said, I still don't personally understand the over reliance on plugins and in the box production.
    What made the older electronica so appealing, even to this very day, was the punk approach to production and sound design, with whatever cheap tools and instruments "we" could lay our hands on, - artists back then weren't trying to pigeon-hole themselves to a particular genre, and they sure as hell weren't trying to sound the same as everyone else...
    - it was all about originality, and that seems to have been missed by many new up and coming artists, and personally I feel working in the box makes it harder to come up with a unique sound.
    love to ALL, feel no hate
    Currently listening to,
    Atsushi Izumi - Vendigris, Houzan Archives
    Filmmaker - The Love Market, Latex and Leather ep
    Autumn's - Your Words, Slow Release
    I Speak Machine - War

    • @Cr4z3d
      @Cr4z3d Рік тому +1

      Would be curious to listen to your tracks, if you still have them around in some form.

  • @broncoxy
    @broncoxy Рік тому +2

    Combining morning coffee with hot sauce sounds like a great idea to
    a) get up for work without any thought of sleep left
    b) spending most of your companies time on the toilet

    • @VenusTheory
      @VenusTheory  Рік тому +3

      Boss makes a dollar while I make a dime, that's why I shit on company time haha

  • @MrBrownAlliance
    @MrBrownAlliance Рік тому +9

    you should check out the Art of Noise from the 80's, I was massively into them. Have you noticed tracks sound amazing right at the end when there is minimal elements?

  • @pranicmusic
    @pranicmusic Рік тому +2

    "Coffee doesn't need hot sauce" -- I feel like this is a challenge!

  • @marcpaters0n
    @marcpaters0n Рік тому +12

    My process is pretty much the same as this. Sampling anything interesting, and mutating it beyond recognition into something cool.

  • @NathanielPrinceCoulter
    @NathanielPrinceCoulter Рік тому +3

    Yeah it’s like, I love squarepusher. I noticed the other day my favorite track is the one that’s most chill and simple. UFOs over leytonstone

  • @redpeople2192
    @redpeople2192 Рік тому +1

    "You don't write songs, you discover them" - couldn't agree more.

  • @ToyKeeper
    @ToyKeeper Рік тому +4

    Is my music too complicated? Frequently, yes. But I love it that way, because then I can listen to it on repeat and hear different things each time. It's not complicated production though... just a bunch of layers.

    • @derrickwayne4627
      @derrickwayne4627 Рік тому

      i do this to tracks i want to listen too as well, but for stuff i may want to market i use the less is more method

    • @aethrya
      @aethrya Рік тому

      love it for deep psychedelic shit

  • @_Garm_
    @_Garm_ Рік тому +1

    Love the quote :) A beginner question, can i use the oxi1 with out any hardware synths, and just with my DAW and the VSTs there ?

    • @oxiinstruments
      @oxiinstruments Рік тому +1

      with any MIDI synth, USB & Bluetooh devices and Eurorack rigs!

    • @_Garm_
      @_Garm_ Рік тому

      @@oxiinstruments Thank you :D

  • @dusry4717
    @dusry4717 Рік тому +10

    An old producer group I was in used to do something called THTS. Two hour track sundays. We'd pick a theme and start a timer and get to hear all the results. It was great.

  • @hydlidevlog
    @hydlidevlog Рік тому +1

    i often get frustrated with all those "lets make this song" videos and they go "add this, add that"... I am like... Noooo.... Don't add, take away. It's the same way with EQ, people tend to add bands, and often forget about 'subtracting' them. I always prefered the 'less is more approach'. Unless I am in the mode of creating a complete orchestra (that's a different mode).

  • @inwex8350
    @inwex8350 Рік тому +2

    Lately stuck in a rut where the actual composition is about 30%, where the rest involves automating and mixing. Was never this anal before. Now it feels I'm behind everything. Granted, it's taken years to get used to mixing. Eh, sometimes I don't want to work on these projects anymore. Painfully rewarding ...

  • @RathCampbell
    @RathCampbell Рік тому +3

    It is a vicious cycle. The more doesn’t always mean better. Great video! Thanks man!

  • @LayersOfSilence
    @LayersOfSilence Рік тому +5

    Thanks for video! I also get into same workflow with "external" sequencers recently, but I use iPad as my sequencer. Tons of fun with a myriads different sequencers on iOS, and probably this is a lot cheap option than dedicated hardware sequencer, but of course its working only within apple ecosystem. Totally agree also with mindset where less=better, at least most of the time.

  • @ndwknss
    @ndwknss Рік тому +1

    "You don't write songs, you discover them"...I so connect with that. Reminds me of I think Michelangelo who I think said something about how he would discover the sculpture in the marble, not turn the marble into a sculpture. Something like that. Anyway, poorly paraphrased and probably not accurate at all but you get the idea.

  • @Beatsbasteln
    @Beatsbasteln Рік тому +1

    Venus Theory: "check out how i keep it simple in this production now!" *extensively processes multiple iterations of noise and pads just to get some background vibe*
    cool workflow tho. i feel that! :)

  • @ketanhirani7606
    @ketanhirani7606 Рік тому +6

    hey dude....where did you learn audio engineering ?
    really appreciate the knowledge and wisdom you share here.

  • @futureuntold777
    @futureuntold777 Рік тому +1

    I just wanted to be an encourager and say whatever you are working on don't allow yourselves to be discouraged by others opinions just make music forget about the naysayers and just make and create art

  • @trollingisasport
    @trollingisasport Рік тому +3

    Nice. I make synthpop type stuff and I always feel when I'm trying to make things too complicated to just go back to the drums. I like using the Roland 808 and creating beats in its sequencer than outputing the midi and working with the drums of my choice.

  • @sleeptwitch8950
    @sleeptwitch8950 Рік тому +4

    I really dig the style of this track! Those chords aren't that complicated but sound very lovely.

  • @danielwarnersmith
    @danielwarnersmith Рік тому

    Amen brother. Amen.

  • @philipsnettleton
    @philipsnettleton Рік тому +1

    @Cameron, I am a composer, musician, producer and engineer. In no particular order. But in engineering, we can all learn from Elon Musk. "Fail early and fail often". DO NOT GET TOO ATTACHED TO AN IDEA. After all, it is just an idea. It could be a really bad idea. Rule of thumb: rapidly put together ten ideas and be prepared to throw out nine of them. That works in engineering, and it works in the other disciplines too. Hope this message finds you in good health and prosperity.

    • @philipsnettleton
      @philipsnettleton Рік тому +1

      Just adding to that thought, only in failure do we learn. Success teaches us nothing.

  • @SychovskiBeat
    @SychovskiBeat Рік тому

    hi Cameron, thanks for great inspiring video . . . wanted to ask how would you proceed with this clip arrangement - just play life and record it in tracks (as you did for this video?) Or you just paste those clips into tracks? I have a song fully arranged in clips and Scenes (somehow it was easier for me to build it) and now need to really transfer it to normal song tracks layout. . .thanks again man. . .

  • @deadstellarengine
    @deadstellarengine Рік тому +1

    excellent video. I am 5 years into taking music production seriously and you nailed it. A lot of times I just catch myself studying meter's and forgetting I am making something "emotional". and even if it sound's "bad" because of my technically immaturity, I tell myself to remember the days of a fostex 4 track and cassette tape. and like record collectors and punk fans, sometimes the mistakes become part of the feel and don't beat yourself up so much. If "the man" is gonna hire you and make you a rockstar, "he" is gonna run all the stuff thru their technicians and mastering engineers anyway.

  • @pocket1684
    @pocket1684 Рік тому +1

    True. Each song is different. Sometimes a song can only take very little time. Other songs might need more finessing and time to develop. Listen to engineers Phil Tans Story about the neptunes Drop it like its hot. That song was, mixed remixed, Many things were deleted, then at some point, Chad adds this synth, then it was mixed again at another studio 5 months later.... There was so much work put into that song, yet its a simple song w/o many instruments at all.

  • @choimdachoim9491
    @choimdachoim9491 Рік тому +1

    Basic translation: you start with a sound you like. The rest is history, too detailed to recall but enjoyable to listen to. That is a great performance tool/instrument you're demonstrating.

  • @tothemax6757
    @tothemax6757 Місяць тому

    Only recently I started writing my music in a "basic" sequencer. God, that helps sooo much to just focus on writing. If it sounds good in there Ill bring it over to my DAW.

  • @dshephardcomposer
    @dshephardcomposer Рік тому

    Question. Were each of those separate tracks (before yo added the MicroFreak) being sourced with the Donner B1?

  • @VIRALBEATS360
    @VIRALBEATS360 Рік тому

    Definitely. One of the reasons I started doing so many LIVE's is because it seemed to be the only time I could produce. Ironically, I recently reduced my LIVE schedule, and just finished a minimalist beat...great timing. Nice work. Your last LIVE was awesome!

  • @Tofu_tv
    @Tofu_tv Рік тому

    I agree with your first tip so much. I get into processing and it becomes a session unto itself. SO counter productive. If your not making a kick dominant bassline a kick is just a friggen transient. Give it some room to breath and move on!

  • @webstercat
    @webstercat 10 місяців тому

    The new career for many musicians is content creators. Venus Theory has a talent that is unique to him. His voice is his voice, his videos are equally as enjoyable as his music, maybe more so. Many people are creating music but few can produce great content.

  • @averagebedroomproducer5008
    @averagebedroomproducer5008 Рік тому

    I messed around with random stuff for a long time and could never finish anything because my brain knew how each part should end, but the random never resolved correctly. That last note of the previous section tells you so much of what the next section could be. I feel like randomization screwed me over for years, to an extent. Now I write "random" things by manually playing random values be it via CC or whatever, and honestly your biggest weapon that the computer doesnt have, is youve listened to tons of music you like and aspire to, you subconciously know what should come next if you put a controller in your hand and good prep, rather than relying on random for your main parts. Just my 2 cents.

  • @Dyenax_
    @Dyenax_ Рік тому

    I bought a tr8s at the Nashville guitar center and I also had a 707 at the time, I ended up having to sell them to pay for a laptop for audio engineering school. While I had them they were amazing machines, the flow they had together was really good.

  • @irishmossdubwise
    @irishmossdubwise Рік тому

    Gold

  • @MistyMusicStudio
    @MistyMusicStudio Рік тому +2

    What's our golden rule? If it sounds good, it is good ☺ Thanks for mentioning Motions and Echoes, found it on spotify and LOVE it! Edit: After letting the entire thing play through twice, I had to save it to my "Tranquila" playlist. Absolutely beautiful. Keep em coming :3

  • @lebronzejames9738
    @lebronzejames9738 Рік тому +1

    This was perfect for me right now - just seeing how you start and each step you go through teaches volumes! Of course it's not possible to show every single step without a VERY long video ;) but I thought the balance between too much not enough detail was perfect! Loved this so much! Thank you

  • @AndreasR86
    @AndreasR86 Рік тому +1

    Mostly I mix for others and I have absolutely no qualms about completely ditching tracks.
    I wish I had the same mindset while producing because I fall into the trap of doing too much all too often.

  • @pennzoilpete1576
    @pennzoilpete1576 Рік тому

    How did you like the TR8-S? The Roland Cloud application for it makes it really fun to use with unique samples!

  • @tp700
    @tp700 Рік тому

    idk how you hit the nail on the head every time but youre saying stuff no one is saying and its all so true 🙏

  • @d0grent
    @d0grent Рік тому +1

    I love the carbon based lifeforms vibe

  • @kerwinfernandes9583
    @kerwinfernandes9583 Рік тому

    Thank you for the peace and inspiration. God bless you on your journey. 🙂🙏🏼❤️

  • @djdanger9812
    @djdanger9812 Рік тому

    When im creating tracks the only processing on individual tracks I do is a high pass, levelling and panning if im double tracking mono instruments. All quick estimates so the low end isn't out of control and my double tracked stereo instruments are in the ball park. Workflow is essential to get ideas down quick without being distracted with mixing.

  • @bladonski
    @bladonski 11 місяців тому

    One of the best things about electronic music is how you can just inspire yourself while your making something through its vibe. I often find myself making a base patch for say a pad or something in vcv rack which then evolves into a full song just from me trying to make other voices which work well with said pad i made.

  • @Woahhhnow
    @Woahhhnow Рік тому

    thank you Venus! this was inspiring and its so true, addition by subtraction can really be a great way to give songs life and change the trajectory of the journey

  • @philhuston9426
    @philhuston9426 Рік тому

    Thank you for this. I was a synth clinician probably before you were born, and this issue of feeling the need to polish a vibe into oblivion unless there's a deadline. Beds and flying logos, particularly live, doesn't allow that sort of mindset. Now is now as opposed to "what if I..." Knob wanking isn't really producing. However, hot sauce DOES go with coffee. As does smoked jalapeno dust. Like EQ, in reasonable quantities. As soon as everyone realizes reverb and delay are instruments there will be world peace.

  • @obbekjaer
    @obbekjaer Рік тому

    My first released track was just me coming home from work, pouring a drink. Then making a simple 303 pattern and spending the next hour playing with cutoff and resonance hands-on while recording the automation in Ableton. Then came some weeks of fine tuning and adding the rest, but the basic flow of the track was already there so it was so easy to add things to.
    What you made here really gave me a Carbon Based Lifeforms kinda feeling. I really need to explore the use of probability more.

  • @tabitharasaproject
    @tabitharasaproject Рік тому +1

    This first part of this video is the funniest dang thing I have ever seen about production! Well-written and delivered with perfect timing!

  • @MyMusic-mt9gj
    @MyMusic-mt9gj Рік тому +1

    I've been thinking of getting a MC 101, as I spend most of my time in Bitwig and I just get overwhelmed with all the choices.

  • @IMForeman27
    @IMForeman27 Рік тому

    Thank.

  • @lozzamoore
    @lozzamoore Рік тому +2

    Another great video, but I was slightly surprised after the intro that was extolling minimalism and simplifying the workflow, when you opened up the 1st track and went through the 8 effects you had added. Filter, Texture, Mtremolo, PitchMonster, Blackhole etc etc.. Doesn't that slightly undermine the whole point of this video?

  • @mimikova390
    @mimikova390 Рік тому +1

    I have a hybrid workflow as well. But in the end, all that matters is the song.

  • @SullenSecret
    @SullenSecret Рік тому

    After all of the products that I've looked at, I still just have my cheap, old, electric piano that I like and my computer. I do have tons of VSTs, but that's it. I've even denied the tempation of making a tiny hardware synthesizer using 2HP (expensive AF). Simple is what I like... and I save money, too. =)

  • @firesailstudios1003
    @firesailstudios1003 Рік тому +1

    I am guilty of putting hot sauce in my coffee

  • @jamie9726
    @jamie9726 Рік тому

    You are the man. TY

  • @houdinididiit
    @houdinididiit Рік тому +1

    I personally feel that today's music is over produced to the point of being perfectly sterile. It's boring. I say this because here we are decades after "When The Levee Breaks" was recorded with a single mic in a stairwell... sampling the death out of it... because it still sounds unlike anything we can create in the box. Imperfection: It's a thing. And usually found in the best recordings.

  • @static-san
    @static-san Рік тому

    I did a music production course two years ago and the chap who runs it excels at adding lots of things to a piece, but then he really knows how to find the "holes" that need just a little thing, too. I... haven't got to that point. I put something together and it might have 6 sounds (including drums and bass) and I can't find anything else to add. And that works with adding things to sounds, too - most of my mixing is just balancing levels!
    Sometimes I make music with my Synthstrom Deluge and a few times I've simply recorded what I've put together and I can't fault it. Much less "mastering" than when I create in the DAW - and it still sounds great. Mixing as I create is a powerful skill.
    Really interesting to see you show us where you are still learning how to make music.

  • @g3cd
    @g3cd Рік тому

    Cool, I'm using the Polyend Seq to basically do the same thing. I do connect different sequences for a song, but in each sequence, there are no more than 8 tracks playing. With drums, this often isn't enough which is why I sample my drums into a 1010 blackbox and then launch that sample via MIDI from the Seq, compressing like 6 tracks of bass drums, snares, hi hats etc. into a single drum track. But so far, this has always been more than enough.
    Also if you listen to jazz or electronic or pop music on the radio, there's never more than 4-5 instruments at the same time, often you only hear one voice and one guitar and it's still a cool song. So don't overdo it, you're perfectly right with that 😉

  • @joshuachristensen771
    @joshuachristensen771 Рік тому

    Okay before you knock peanut butter on a burger consider this: it's peanut butter and BACON on the burger that makes the taste translate. In fact a peanut butter and bacon sandwich on its own is a thing of beauty. You can also go full "Elvis" and do peanut butter, bacon, and banana. If you don't like it, well you just don't like it, but I'd encourage you to give it a try first. I prefer using the all natural peanut butter, the kind that's not loaded with sugar, to give an extra savory bite to the burger without the strange sweetness.

  • @sunofmalaichi
    @sunofmalaichi Рік тому

    Cool

  • @norfsyq9660
    @norfsyq9660 Рік тому

    Definitely had this problem and this was also what I started doing to help.

  • @TonyThomas10000
    @TonyThomas10000 Рік тому +1

    I love that kind of workflow...less is often more!

  • @MARS041
    @MARS041 Рік тому

    Thank you for the advice

  • @audeon_visual
    @audeon_visual Рік тому

    I've been putting off watching this because I'm in mega-denial about my proclivity for over-working a project and getting bummed about the time I've spent on some infinitesimal aspect of a needlessly complex patch idea or something.
    As soon as I saw your framing of the video, I was immediately relieved about my own tendencies to 'over-render' sound design ideas.
    I'm so glad I watched this. Great work!

  • @PeterToml1nson
    @PeterToml1nson Рік тому

    Reminds me of solar fields! I’ve always been curious about the ambient/electronic side of sound design, and this was a great insight into it 🙂

  • @Rhekluse
    @Rhekluse Рік тому +1

    Great video. I think it's important to love the process and not worry too much about the end result right away. A combination of choosing the genre, key & the right sounds early can really do wonders for finishing tracks quickly with most of the work already done.

  • @synystermaggot2530
    @synystermaggot2530 Рік тому +1

    This is some cool stuff man, thanks for sharing. I personally think simplicity is the best recipe when it comes to production, there isn't a need for a complicated approach in most situations.

  • @michaels5166
    @michaels5166 Рік тому

    VT and everyone..There was music before Plug ins, sequencers, DAWs, and the various toys we enjoy now,and we are spoiled. So, imagine you have a Portastudio, some Maxell cassette tapes, a boombox, one turntable, one crate of records, the mic that came with the boombox, maybe a Pioneer dual cassette deck, maybe your Dad's Tascam reel recorder,and go make some music. It's as simple as that,and i tell photographers that all the time, that before your news toys,you had limited tools,and it worked out just fine.UA-cam is just a place where there's some fake agenda to buyy more,have more,and compare everything under the sun. The hilarious part is,we make music so the majority can dance or listen while they go about their everyday lives. MOST people do not have great hearing, they do NOT have a listening room to eat wine/cheese and wave their arms in bliss,and they can care less about our $4000 samplers, $400 DAWs, $700 microphones,and never will. I have a whole studio and listen to MOST of my music on my tablet,with headphones or on my TV/soundbar...

  • @hvandermillen3237
    @hvandermillen3237 Рік тому +1

    I love this channel, not just because of the great tips you have but just because you make me want to make music. Great video!

  • @Bartholomule01
    @Bartholomule01 11 місяців тому

    I love addition by subtraction. You don't always need a beat switch or a key change or a new melody.

  • @breteasley3581
    @breteasley3581 Рік тому

    You are always so helpful and unique in the instruction vibe you present

  • @michaelpuglisi5108
    @michaelpuglisi5108 Рік тому

    @7:50 Can someone explain this “Start up a basic sequence”
    Does that device set midi notes with the pads?

  • @djaii328
    @djaii328 Рік тому

    That whole intro bit about the EQ'ing on the drumtrack really made me sit back and go "damn" so thank you for that.

  • @InstrumentManiac
    @InstrumentManiac Рік тому

    Thank you for this video! I often find myself in a similar spiral especially when it comes to things like mixing and EQing. It's just so dang easy to fall down the rabbit hole of what is the "correct" way to do things. The Oxi is a really cool piece of hardware- I really like the vibe you made with it!

  • @OpenRuimte010
    @OpenRuimte010 Рік тому

    Workflow! Thanks.

  • @thomasosborne1343
    @thomasosborne1343 15 днів тому

    Hi Cameron, firstly really loving the music at the moment and especially the explanatory videos about your process. Awesome! Had a quick question about the Sparrow MIDI controller that you use...is it worth it? Have been looking for something very similar for a while however 175 dollars is pretty expensive when a nano korg is half the price. I guess my question is (since im guessing you might have got it for free), would you have paid for it if you had to?
    Thanks in advance for taking the time to respond. Have a great day / thom

  • @buildyourdreams7338
    @buildyourdreams7338 Рік тому

    Which DAW do u use

  • @slmtz2458
    @slmtz2458 Рік тому

    Great advice

  • @sachamerzian6640
    @sachamerzian6640 3 місяці тому

    love ya man 🤩

  • @makegamemusic
    @makegamemusic Рік тому

    This is fascinating, I’ve never even thought of writing music this way. Sounds beautiful to my ears,

  • @DarrenAudioguy
    @DarrenAudioguy Рік тому

    I feel that the issue is folks looking for answers from UA-cam in response to confusing options provided by music tech salesmen. Both ends of this spectrum are equally destructive.
    Just do what you do. Don't worry about finishing tracks or using too many Plugins.. Walk the path, smell the flowers and breathe in the journey because that's all there is.

  • @daviHuggMonster
    @daviHuggMonster Рік тому

    if you listen to "Spastik" by Plastikman you KNOW we are all trying to overdo everything. That track is just 9minutes of a drum machine and filtering and some sequence changes, and still it works :)

  • @De_Bar_Gullibles_Travels
    @De_Bar_Gullibles_Travels Рік тому +1

    Fucking love this channel!!!! Thank you…yet again!!! ❤️👍🇮🇪

  • @stevesm2010
    @stevesm2010 Рік тому

    Hi Cameron, Love your vids. I've learned a lot from them. I notice, you use the same controller as I have, the Arturia Keylab 61 MK2. I absolutely love it. Good build quality, bags of features.... However, unfortunately, it keeps sending spurious MIDI signals. I'll be sitting here, cobbling some sort of track together (beginner) and suddenly, a controller will change, or a mix fader, or worse, it will input notes in a recording. I have searched high and low online and it seems, I'm not the only one. One person recommended using the 5-pin MIDI ports instead of USB, so I bought a USB to MIDI interface cable - Same thing. I just wondered if you had ever heard of this issue, and if so, have you heard of a fix? I thought I'd ask before I throw in the towel and get the Komplete Kontrol 61 MK 2 instead!

    • @blkb33
      @blkb33 Рік тому

      I had a similar problem when I bought it. Was outputting a very high midi note when idle or when I was just playing it. That was before I registered it through Arturia and activated my serial. Once I did that and set up the midi in/out correctly it’s been fine

    • @stevesm2010
      @stevesm2010 Рік тому

      @@blkb33 Thanks for the reply. Sadly, I registered my device shortly after receiving it, so it's probably not that.

    • @blkb33
      @blkb33 Рік тому

      @@stevesm2010 that’s a shame. It’s a really amazing controller. I haven’t ran into this problem and hope I won’t in the future. Have you brought the issue up with arturia?

    • @stevesm2010
      @stevesm2010 Рік тому

      @@blkb33 Not as yet. I've found a post about the issue online and I'm looking into it.

  • @futuremontreal
    @futuremontreal Рік тому

    well said!

  • @ptoughneigh5481
    @ptoughneigh5481 Рік тому +1

    So I just had this realization myself and maybe it’s because you used a TR8s as an example. I use one too, but I always have reservations about using the bests that come together without effort. The reason is because I assume, correctly or incorrectly, that simple means unoriginal. If you were able to make a beat in 20 minutes after spending 15 minutes in the store with the TR8s, how many people have done the same thing?
    While I appreciate you touching on the topic, it doesn’t quite satisfy my issue. While I’ve made music for a long time, because I enjoy it more than anything else, but I’ve shared almost none. I seem to just shit ideas out effortlessly and so I don’t save or share them because like I said, if I did it effortlessly, how many people have, or will, do the same?
    And so for me the solution ends up being the problem you are actually addressing in this video, and in the process of assuring myself there will be an original product, the over complexity comes.
    What would you say to elaborate on this?

  • @danielnevels
    @danielnevels Рік тому

    I am inspired ! Thank you!

  • @captain_crunk
    @captain_crunk Рік тому

    I really dig it. The underlying pad is super duper and I appreciate you breaking it all down. If I could tweak one thing, I think the acid synth track feels a bit too "non-committal". I think it either wants to be low passed a little bit more to better vibe with that muted-lofi feel, or it needs more of that acid-bite-filter-resonance to better stand out. Anyway, exploding fist bump my dude, good stuff.

  • @NotBenCoultry
    @NotBenCoultry Рік тому

    5:24 This. And if you're spending your focus on EQing a kick it's impossible to notice the song peeking out at you from the edge of the woods. Analytical mind and creative mind seem to fight for the same bandwidth, probably down to the fact that inspiration and creativity tend to live in an unfocused thought-space where the analytical is hyper-focused on the details. Critics don't sing, play, or dance in other words.

  • @russiangoose7053
    @russiangoose7053 Рік тому

    Im just getting into this stuff but this reminds me of like a futuristic PS2 game for some reason, i can't explain it but it gives me that vibe