@@ckdraws410 Actually, in the 14 years Uber has existed, it has never turned a profit. Uber drivers absolutely deserve more than they get, but I unfortunately, the foundation of Uber was designed with underpaying drivers to make a profit.
@CK Draws you go into business to make lots of money, if not you just work for someone else and are less likely to lose everything. Risk reward factor.
No they actually don’t. Because customers will just pay for it. So they get away with enjoying more profits. They only have to change once its economically necessary to do so. This can be done down to a city by city basis cause of all the data they can gather by users. So city A can be slightly more expensive and 2 towns over can be a bit cheaper based on what people are willing to spend there
@@krowthecorvid1315 You're talking about what's fair, whereas I'm talking about what they actually "need" to do in real life to accomplish their goals as a company. They don't "need" to pay drivers any more if they're getting away with paying them their current rates and carrying on a multi billion dollar business as usual.
If no one wants to tiptoes go get your own food. I always go get my own food because door dash said they delivered my food. I never received it so I don't use these services anymore
@@krowthecorvid1315 why do they need to be paid more period? If that's your skill level isn't that your problem? Why should I make less so that you make more without you having any more skills or any risk?
He knows of the problem. Complains to the customers. Wants customers to pay his employees bet. Yep that tracks. Without tip Uber drivers get paid $0.44 per mile. The cost for maintenance, wear and tear, and gas is above $0.50.
Free? They're working. A lot of countries don't tip whatsoever because it's the responsibility of the owner to pay their workers. That's what the real world should look like, everywhere.
Exactly, the fees charged to the driver and the customer are ridiculous. Uber needs to take a smaller piece of the pie, and everyone would make more money, and I'd bet they'd still be hella profitable cause their service would be more affordable.
Especially considering these people drive and put wear snd tear on their own cars. The comp is only providing the online infrastructure. Come up off some of that percentage. It's wild that they convinced people to use their own cars and still they take a huge chunk lol.
Virtually no one will deliver your food from doordash or ubereats if you tip in cash... Cash is the way drivers would prefer it but without a guarantee of getting it they won't take the chance. Without a tip the driver is paying to deliver food for people which is absolute stupidity and any driver that would accept that I would not eat the food from😮
I wanted to just leave a little note for you. A lot of people who use delivery are not doing it because they are lazy. Delivery can be an incredibly important service for those who are disabled. And unfortunately, the money disabled people live off of is often just not enough to do anything and tipping is not an option, however if they don’t order food, they don’t eat.I personally am getting away from the laziness mindset and advocating for employers to pay their employees a living wage.
Exactly! Sometimes it is not laziness! But that’s still not an excuse for tip baiting. If you can’t pay a tip, don’t pretend you will. ❤ It may take longer to find a driver but it’s still not ethical to trick a low income person into helping us.
Ive been begging uber eats for the 5 years i worked for them. Yes in the beginning youre not making minimum wage, ghey wanna see that youre dedicated and not a theif, after a month of 120 hours you earn more.
@Andie that sucks. I hope you found a place better that appreciates your value. It's really hard tbh many jobs that hire are big companies and no matter how much and how long we work there it's like our work is never valued. With everything being more expensive, these mega companies need to pay us more cause price of living increased 😮💨
That's the problem tho, drivers know it is easier to shame/deny service for customers that don't tip than to go after the real culprit, the company. With the tips some employees get at some companies it is far more profitable for the worker to insist on tips instead of even a good wage. Everybody wants a tip these days and tips anywhere from 15% to 30% are now required, that's ridiculous, everyone is struggling.
She didn't mention anything about whether or not the customer got their order within a reasonable time. I got a feeling she's only saying one side of the story.
@@wisdomlounge4452 What’s the other side of the story? I had to wait 30 minutes for food to arrive, so next time I’ll trick underpaid service workers to get it faster.
I’m so grateful for delivery drivers and I always give a generous tip because without them I wouldn’t get my food when I don’t feel like going to pick up myself. 🤷🏾♀️ So thank you delivery drivers.
@@undauntable6456 if they aren't making any money maybe it's time to close shop or do a major reorganisation. Or just make your customers pay a fair price for your service. So you can pay your workers a fair salary/commission.
@@nacholibre4516 Why are you telling me they should go close down? Write a letter to the CEO and explain to him why he needs to close shop you lemon. But youre right.. Telsa should have closed shop when they werent making any money. Same for Facebook, Apple, Google, and most other companies that make up the XLK. Someone needs to make you a CEO right away. But listen to this cause its really crazy. People dont have to work for uber or lyft... Crazy right?
@@undauntable6456 I'm telling you because you're the one making the argument they can't quit the tipping system because they aren't making any money. And indeed these companies still exist, because somebody is making a shitload of money. But it isn't the hard working people at the bottom
Amen Lady. I ask my delivery drivers if they're getting all the tip I sent them. I even ask them to show me so I kno those restaurants aren't gettn ova on them but using me as the scapegoat. 💯👍🏾
@@a.mathis9454 They do that here too, a set delivery fee and a service charge that is percentage based on the cost of the items. Uber simply takes it all for themselves
We pay it either way. Tips are just currently easier to swallow for more people, as it hides the extra fees in the form of an "optional gift." Allowing the listed price for service to be lower. People who work in these companies go in with the full understanding that they risk low pay on some days, but have the potential for major profits from more generous guests. The gamble is worth it for enough people that the companies can afford to replace anyone pushing for higher guaranteed pay. Uber and other rideshare companies understand human psychology as it relates to money. If Uber raised the service fees to properly compensate drivers without tips, the price hike would result in more than half the customerbase boycotting them, meaning they would go from finally expecting to turn a profit this year, to going bankrupt overnight. The illusion of the payment being optional makes it easier to swallow, even though you end up paying the same on average either way.
@@myria2834 "allowing prices to be lower" is actually a big fat lie they came up with so you wouldn't argue about tipping. They make more profit by making their customers cover the entire wage of the servers essentially allowing them to have free labor and only pay taxes on their employees
@@myria2834 it's not about raising fees so they can keep their million and billion dollar profits rolling in instead of taking even a slight pay cut. They make more in an hour than any of their employees in an entire year of work.
Yes, thank you! Whether you agree with tipping or not, it's still my time, fuel and wear and tear on my car. It's really frustrating when you're bringing someone their food and your time and expenses mean nothing and you end up losing money.
I highly agree 😂 omgg I used to use Uber eats religiously a couple of years ago and I completely stopped and cook my own meals. If I want to eat out I go to a nice restaurant. The fees from delivery services are so dumb
That's fine. I barely use the service myself, but when I do, I know I'll be tipping and factor it into my cost/value of using the service. It's so convenient when you're sick or have had surgery, for example. I used to deliver too, and I delivered groceries to a lot of elderly and could see myself doing that when I'm older if I needed too.
you are amazing !!! everyone needs to see this . I don’t know if the customers think drivers get compensated for there gas and vehicle maintenance. But they don’t . They may only get paid $2.00 from Doordash for a 10 mile delivery. I wouldn’t do it myself , how do they make any money ? If you do not like to tip , then go get your food yourself .
Absolutely ❤ I'm gonna go out on a limb and say a huge percentage of young Americans get food delivered...for all different reasons. Not for you to judge. EW 🤢
Another problem is customers who lie and say we didn't deliver their food. I've had a customer look me in the eye, HAVE A CONVERSATION with me, and then report the food as not delivered! I can't imagine wanting a free meal so bad that I'd get someone in trouble just to get it!
Use a timesamp camera it also has gps feature so both will be embedded into the picture and I send it to them. Even if they want it handed to them I try to take a picture if I can before I do. Lying about not getting delivery is just part of the deal. Cover your ass
That's literally how I got fired from doordash, even though I had been their top dasher for MONTHS! All it took was 1 person claiming their food was never delivered..what's worse is it was a hotel delivery, so it could have been easily checked into on the security cams..
Yup this has happened to me. And they had a ring doorbell. So when Uber called me to ask me why I didn't deliver the food. I told him I did the customer has it on camera andi told Uber that they needed to get the video evidence to prove I did.
I've had a few orders that were missing items, so i complained but how would that be on the driver? Most places tape the bags shut these days so that would be on the restaurant for not including the item.
If Uber really cared, they would make the tip-baiters file a formal complaint in order for Uber to consider lowering the tip BUT THEY DON’t CARE because it doesn’t affect their profits. Also, I think Uber has recently LOWERED the SUGGESTED TIP amount. Ain’t nobody gonna stop their car, go to restaurant, wait for the order, deliver the order for low tip amounts.
@warhawk As an uber driver even accepting $4 for 3 hours has gotten me $50 not bad when youre in a pinch. As someone who has been wprking for uber for 5 years, they do pay hourly you dont see the rest until an hour after you end your shift. It always comes out to $23- $30 an hour for me. Ive never stole food and i stay constant. Tip baiting happens ALL the time so i just accept every order. I hate relying on tips but this is my source of income right now.i actually do something someone can do themselves. If someone is disabled ill go over and beyond to help, but someone who is simply lazy should pay more. Yeah. Uber eats needs to pay more too because even though i get that hourly $5 an hour still goes to gas.... My head lights. Tire accidents etc. Yes i get back in taxes.
If you pay attention a lot of the restaurants prices are jacked up $1-$2 on each menu item. I used it 1 time paid 70 sum instead of the 50 sum I usually pay, the amount of food was way less. It was cold, plus the fee for delivery. Plus a tip. I paid 2x the amount I usually do. I was done that day. I go it myself or I eat house food.
I don' recall burger king or olive garden having this 🤔. Did you tip that driver as well? Doesn't matter whose doing the driving. You should still be tipping. And if you can't afford to tip, stay home and eat. Or go through a drive thru window.
@@lazer2521 what ? didn’t talk about burger king. i’m talking about local restaurants. i live in france btw. and tipping isn’t expected since people have normal wages. i still tip a bit when i can tho. i’m a student
I am a rideshare driver, and a man gave me a $30 tip through the app. He kept telling me I was a great diver, clean car, great music, etc. He wanted to make sure I got it, so he stayed in the car and confirmed I received the tip after I closed out the trip. It popped up, and he left the car complimenting me again as he left. The next morning, the tip is gone. I called ADMIN, and they said the person took it back. I explained the whole interaction with her. She said that happens a lot, and it is called Tip Baiting. Look, if you don't want to tip, no big deal, dont tip. But to talk about the tip, wait in the car until i see it, I confirm it, and I believe I've received it, and then take it away is some low class BS.
People don’t realize that servers in restaurants also lose money when people do not tip due to tip outs. Usually they lose 20-30%, however at some places (like hibachi) servers lose 70% of their tips. We really need a solution to all of this regarding tipping culture in the U.S.
Yeah I don’t get why people assume that every one using delivery apps are just lazy and won’t just for get food. For some people it’s made life so much easier but they can’t afford to pay so much in service fees then be expected to pay the same amount in a tip. Even sadder than tip baiting is people refusing orders because the tip isn’t enough. Which happens more than tip baiting. Some people need delivery and Uber should pay these people a proper amount and tipping shouldn’t be necessary. People would still be greedy and want extra tips unfortunately but it would become less of a trend to just not take orders with low or no tips. Tipping culture has because insane and we shouldn’t be fighting each other we should be fighting the corporations who aren’t paying enough.
Yes! For me I don't have a car and if I use lyft/Uber to go back and forth to go get food. It would be cheaper for me to use the delivering apps and I tip every time.
I will never tip online for delivery again. I’ve had sooo many mess ups and lost way too much money. My rule is “I’ll tip you at the door”. It’s either leaving my food in the wrong place, giving the wrong order, missing an item, etc. I’ve seen good drivers working in fast food. when you tell them something is unavailable they call the customer. majority of drivers don’t and will bring you one out of the 6 things you ordered instead of telling you so you can get a damn refund or get something else. Restaurants are at fault too nothing is ever correct but then here comes Uber refusing to give you your money back even if you have proof. I’m so done with ordering food. I’ll get it my damn self even if I have to walk (I don’t drive).
They are not mandatory but if you want someone e to accept your order for delivery then tip. Most drivers will not deliver the food if it doesn’t even pay for their gas. Think of the tip as shipping. You paid for your items and now you are paying for them to be “shipped” to you. Otherwise you go and pick up your own food. Tipped workers are among the hardest workers out there and not justly compensated for it!
Exactly, I didn’t like her seemingly attempted guilt tripping, “ if you’re too lazy to get you’re food, the least you could do”. No. It’s their choice and their money, it is the companies job to pay them. You can tip if you want. If they don’t pick up your order, that’s up to them. Maybe getting another day is a choice.
yes but unless the system gets reformed the current system makes sure you're responsible to make sure they don't fucking starve so dont be a dick and waste their time and money when they need every fucking trip to get their basic necessities met dammit.
It's insane USA does not pay for their delivery drivers or waiters. In Europe Tip means extra not your entire wage (which should be paid for by the restaurant owner)
At my job, tips essentially add an extra dollar to my hourly wage. Even with that, I can't afford a studio apartment in the city where I live, however i am grateful to be able to save up
@@tedtimberson4262 For some reason, people keep gaslighting and trying to guilt trip people into tipping, which is wrong and manipulative. It’s their choice.
The best thing would be that companies pay their employees . This is what happens in Asia. There is no tipping. The waiters and riders get a fixed amount for every order and delivery.
right now we don't have such a system in the US and the privileged like you aren't fighting for the ones who are financially struggling, delivering your food. either you tip or don't use the service. a better system on the opposite side of the world does not entitle you to screw over the workers over here.
Delivery drivers are independent contractors, not employees. Your tip is a bid for my services. If you don't offer a "tip" and someone else does, I will choose to accept the offer that makes more financial sense for me to accept.
@@Dave_of_Mordor WTF! You are saying you don't have enough privilege?? An American?? Supposedly GreAtesT cOUntrY eVeR?? While my 3rd world country does!?!?
Its just amazing to live in a place where corporations have to PAY their workers and tipping is not only not expected, its only to validate above average service.
I’m disabled, and sometimes if I don’t order delivery, I don’t eat. Like, I have just enough energy to get from bed to the door and back and then consume the food; I don’t even have the extra energy for the two minutes it will take to pour a bowl of cereal. Plus, sometimes if you’ve been bedridden all day, what you really need is a hot, full meal to help with energy levels, but FORGET the 10 minutes it would take to even make a bowl of ramen with a fried egg. It just is t happening. Delivery (for food, groceries, prescriptions, etc) are vital services for those of us who sometimes (or always) have trouble leaving our houses. And we know we have to pay extra for these things - one of the many things that makes dealing with a disability expensive. BUT that being said, I don’t agree with tip baiting. It’s just exploiting other lower-income people, and it’s not right.
Uber should be covering for gas and millage not the customers. I dont really used pick up apps cuz im cheap but fuck tipping culture. Just pay your own employees.
Uber drivers and UberEats drivers are not employees of Uber. We are sub-contractors (self-employed). So when you make a fake claim of not receiving an order to get a refund when it has been delivered, they give us a "contract violation" and cancel our contract - we lose our jobs. If you don't want to tip, that's fine. BUT don't be surprised if your order/delivery gets "floated" around between multiple drivers before somebody accepts it..... it may take awhile before somebody accepts the delivery.
I hope every restaurant and food apps ban you. If you are cheap, cook for urself. As a student, i try my best to tip as much as i can give, no need to be so selfish.
What I do is I set my tip percent to 15% so the driver doesn’t think they’re getting baited, then I increase it to 25% after I get the delivery. I don’t order often so I like to tip big. Working gig work like that isn’t easy, I wanna show appreciation. I also tip in cash too if I have it.
So basically the company wants YOU to pay their employees and makes sure they don't classify them AS employees to do so, but then villanizes the customers for not doing what the company is actually supposed to do. Like THAT was the worst thing he encountered? Not the exploitation if the "independent contractors"?
@Bruce Wayne if you care so much about getting your food on time, you should act like you appreciate the service 🤷♂️. They aren't employees, they can be choosy. Doesn't make lying any more moral. If you don't want to tip, then don't tip. If that doesn't work, learn from it. Don't double down on being shitty.
@@brucewayne3892 changing what you pay after a service is performed is unethical and illegal most anywhere else. The fact that they allow it here is insane.
So happy to live somewhere where tipping delivery drivers is not a thing. The app I use doesn’t even have a place where you can add a tip. This is because delivery drivers are paid a decent wage and don’t have to rely on customers deciding whether or not they want to tip the drivers.
@@bohemianbookworm9361Anywhere where tipping is optional and is considered an added bonus - so not in the US apparently . I tip a couple of £2 when someone delivers my food and they are grateful because it's just not that common here in the UK.
@@JessicaMiller-pc4dj do service workers get paid the same as like, retail workers in the UK? Here in the US they get paid much less. If it wasn’t for the tips no one would be working those jobs here, they pay much less than the regular minimum wage. We live on the tips, our checks are like, gas money.
They aren't employees of the company. They are independent contractors. You are tipping the driver directly for providing you the convience of delivering your meals. If you want a driver to take notice, you offer them an acceptable amount to make it worth their while.
@@annward7794 I totally get that, but my take is that minimum wage workers in theory would never be able to eat out or order delivery because they can't afford it - because they have to top up the wages of even worse paid workers - does that make sense?
Thank you!!! Delivery drivers deserve to be tipped! They are bringing you food to your door!!! Out of all the outrageous tipping options now, delivery drivers are the most deserving of tips
Agreed and we should always aim $5 or more (usually 15% in my experience) for tips but I'd refrain from calling people lazy for not being able to pick up their own food. Some of us have multiple jobs and can't leave the gig/don't have enough of a lunch break or finanical means for transport, or even if we do then there's childcare to take care of. Kinda sucks when you're sticking up for service workers then....putting us down in the same breath?
I have a friend who was doing grocery deliveries and a woman had stated she would get a large tip. She had many many groceries including large cases of water that were heavy, heavy heavy. She delivered everything on time and even though it was a difficult delivery, she was looking forward to the money as a single mother. Then the woman took away the entire tip. She told me she was tempted to go back and slash every tire on the woman’s car but of course she didn’t. I admired her restraint.
I was tip-baited last week, and I fully had the dude’s address memorized somehow (he lived like 2min from my house so maybe that’s why lol) and I so wanted to go back and be like wtf dude. Obviously, not a good idea, but I know to cancel that dude’s trip since I know his name too since it was unique I was lucky enough to also get a few tippers that night that gave me extra tips on top of the upfront one so I was still covered luckily 😊
Had this happen to me too. I stopped doing grocery deliveries because of the number of people who take fully take their tips away even after they thanked me so happily as they took in their massive grocery orders from me. Ugh.
I've only removed my tip twice. First was because the driver literally ate half my fucking food. He tore the safety tape/staples that the restaurant placed. Second was because the driver opened his car door and placed my food in a puddle on the pavement and drove off. Like, you could have at least called me, I would've come out, but I didn't know he was even there.
I removed a tip once because I am disabled in a wheelchair and in my instructions I explicitly state that and ask them to please not block the path of the door with the groceries because I have to open the door all the way to get outside. Well this guy leans a 20lb bag of dog food against the door trapping me inside. So I call out after him asking him to please move it because I'm in a wheelchair and can't open the door now. He starts yelling at me and cursing while he's moving it then kicks the bag on his way out, tearing a small hole in it. I don't know what kind of bad day he was having but who yells at a person in a wheelchair for needing a little assistance? It's rude to put items against the door anyway, disabled or not. Especially if its drinks and the door knocks them over. I had someone do that once too but even then I didn't take away the tip completely, just reduced it.
Same. I live in a highrise smack dab downtown in the city so I rely on services. You would not believe how many times my food was tampered with. I'm a repeat customer and I know when half of my plate is gone. I tip generously and it makes no difference. 15% on 2 burgers that were 5 blocks away and $80, for you to call me and tell me to come down and get it instead of taking the 30 second elevator ride. They do sneaky stuff all the time. I'm sorry that your children are in the car, but I left you a good tip and personal things should not be placed on a customer. I had a woman threaten to come back later because I told her I'm disabled and I tip generously so there's no issue with the elevator. They try to text me for the pin when security is telling them "you can't leave that in the lobby." One guy texted me and said "you're lucky I even took your order" because $5 wasn't good enough for a tiny order from a dunkin 2 blocks away. 30% of my orders go objectively wrong. It's insane, the entitlement while servers wait on you for 1-2 hours for 18%.
@@mischievousamoeba "I'm sorry your kids are in the car, but i tipped you well" so you need to leave them in the car, because that's not my problem? That's one of those mitigating circumstances that YOU need to compromise on, don't you think?
Good ole America, making excuses for the person who brought their kid on a job and expecting the consumer to “compromise” for the workers personal problems. Here’s a fun idea, don’t bring your kids on a job if it’ll keep you from doing the job.
He needed to bring the kids with him to deliver it to her door. How is the person ordering suppose to know a driver is working with his/her family in the car. If the driver took on a job responsibility he/she is suppose to fill it to the end. It is what is expected. That is why the customer is allowed to add comments such as the one she requested.
I don’t agree with the last statement if we are too lazy to pick up our own food we also pay additional service and delivery fees . Tip baiting is disgusting but not tipping at all doesn’t make you a horrible person, it’s literally optional :)
For some of us, it's not laziness, we're just disabled. I use walmart+ delivery because otherwise I wouldn't be able to get my groceries safely. I tip as much as I can, but that's usually only two dollars, I can't afford a huge tip every time I get my groceries. I tipped $5 once because the deliverer was nice though.
It's not really about asking for a huge tip. There will generally be someone who sees the order and takes care of it (especially if it's a smaller order). I'm assuming you're not putting in a huge one and then changing it after.
@D O'Neill well, I can't afford to not have free delivery, so my orders are always above $35 usd, usually somewhere around 50 so I don't need to make multiple orders tho. I get everything I need for about a week in one go. And no, I don't usually change my order unless I forgot something essential. I can't afford to tip much, but I do try to tip as much as reasonably possible for me.
I dont think you understand what the issue is. What people are doing is the order itself is say 30$ and they put in a tip amount of 15$ so the driver delivers it faster. But once they get the order they make the tip amount like 2$ or nothing. Your 35$ walmart order you are not putting a 15$ tip on it then taking it back. Your tip amount is the same from start to finish. Its the people lying about the tip amount to get better service that are lazy shit heads. If 2$ is all you can afford thats ok- honestly I would expect most people dont tip anything with walmart deliveries because they actually get a "real wage" vs the people we normally would tip(food delivery drivers, waitresses, bartenders), many peoples financials suck right now especially with how poorly the USA sets up people on disability. In short- your good/you are not the a-hole here.
@@D.ONeill I dont think its that you explained it poorly- just that it's such a foreign concept of a new way to be a trash human is sometimes hard for normal people to understand. Like I would have never thought to do something like this ever. It hurts my brain that "people" are actually doing this to other people. Tipping culture seriously needs to go, and Federal Minimum Wage needs fixed.
Honestly this sounds like a government issue. I’m sorry you have to be paying a for profit company to make deliveries for you. I don’t think you should be paying for that if you have a disability. Getting groceries is a necessity and there should be a government funded program that allows you to get groceries delivered to you for free. That way you and the Uber driver both don’t get screwed. It’s just a fucked up system.
I was tip baited TWICE today! The first time, I was supposed to have been paid $10 ($2 base, $8 tip) but I was instead paid $4 ($2 base, $2 tip) and for another delivery, I was supposed to be paid $18.09 ($3.20 base, $14.89 tip) but I was instead paid $11.28 ($3.20 base, $8.08 tip). Bro! It’s one thing to not tip, but to deliberately trick a driver into thinking they’ll get a tip only to not tip them or reduce it is just borderline evil. If you’re the type of person who does this, you don’t deserve food delivery services.
This was a thing when I did Instacart for awhile as well. Once had a person with a $200+ order and a $15 tip, as soon as I got in my car from dropping it off, the tip was changed to $1. Really I don’t think it should be allowed to change tips after a certain time. I understand why it was implemented, sometimes a driver can just really mess up, but I feel it’s abused too much by people. Especially when you aren’t being compensated for gas 😅
Surprised you even get your food delivered. I'm a driver with several years of experience. I can tell you that I have never delivered an order based on a possible tip after delivery. If the initial pay isn't sufficient I don't take it. ❤
From a wise driver perspective. You can't invest time and money into a delivery hoping there will be a tip on the back end. It costs money to operate our vehicles regardless of how an order plays out. You can't gamble on post tips and expect to be profitable long term. The tip must be shown up front and be sufficient for the time invested by the driver. Period.
European here, the solution ought to be pretty obvious I feel: Just pay people a living wage, rather than relying on tipping. Here tipping is the cherry on top, not the norm. I’ve worked in a restaurant for a bit over half a year, and gotten tipped once, but I’m not hurting for money
I don’t think we should be advocating tipping on these platforms. If they LOSE money because customers don’t tip that’s an absolute problem with the company. The customer is already paying dramatically higher prices. These multi BILLION dollar companies need to provide for their employees. Employees get upset at customers bc they didn’t tip and it becomes not worth their time. Get mad at your employer who isn’t paying you! Employers sit back and love when public tell each other to tip and how wrong it is not to, that way they can continue to not have to pay more. Stop telling us to tip, and start telling companies to lay their workers justly.
She definitely said that tipping sucks and we need a better system, but for now this is the system we're dealing with, and it's true for pizza delivery people too. I delivered pizza for a long time and there were definitely days when I came home with less than it took to fill up my tank. I didn't want to continue working there, but no matter how many applications I put in I couldn't get a call back for anywhere else for over a year. In general I managed to scrape enough to pay my bills, and that was a lot better than just not having a job, so I stayed.
I def use food delivery bc my chronic illness makes it impossible for me to cook or drive sometimes, not bc I'm "too lazy to pick up my own food". But I hear you and Would NEVER do this!! 😱 Edit: I spelled 'delivery' wrong lol
Have you ever considered the prepackaged fresh or frozen chef meals that you can subscribe to online? I dated someone who did that because he’d forget to eat otherwise. Sometimes we’d go back to his house after one of my shifts and just heat up some meals. He’d always let me order them for him so he’d have the ones in hand that I liked, and they were pretty good. Way better than a regular frozen dinner because they were made in small batches by chefs in a kitchen and then frozen. I wish I could remember the name of the company, but there’s probably lots of them out there, and I’m sure it varies by region, but maybe something to look into?
I also have food and groceries delivered because I am disabled. I set the tip to 15% then raise or lower it afterwards depending on if they followed my instructions on how to deliver it or ignored it and made things super difficult on me. I do state why I need it done the way I ask.
I've seen and tip baited way before people were talking about it. The app controls that decision and that option to reduce or eliminate tip all together. This is bad for the driver, but it's just humans being humans finding flaws in the system and abusing it for their advantage. Food and deliveries are extremely overpriced and its just gonna get worse. This is why I use Walmart for groceries and I cook all my own meals ahead of time and just reheat. I miss eating at restaurants but I always got sick🤮💩 regardless if it's fine dinning, casual or fast food.
and uber and doordash whatever up charges all the food but now they are asking us to pay even more to their drivers instead of the money from the up charges food and delivery service!?!
I was a delivery manager for Panera Bread before they switched to Uber Eats and it was a sweet gig. Paid my drivers 12 an hour and they kept all their tips. They made at least 15 an hour in tips. Plenty of hours and all of them were normal hours. No insane nights. Just some early coffee runs and I was the AM driver. Uber eats sucks. The personal delivery driver is one of those jobs that use to be a decent stepping stone job. You could pay your bills and add to your resume as both a line worker and a driver. Really sucks, man. Always tip well.
It is good to an extent. I had a person deliver to the complete wrong building, give no image of proof they delivered, ignored my messages asking if they delivered to the wrong buildings and I had to walk to the other buildings multiple floors before I finally found it. I'd say thats a good reason to drop a tip to zero.
You know it's weird. Maybe tip baiting wouldn't be a thing if they didnt mark up prices by 30 percent because Uber takes a insane cut! Maybe if they weren't charging you extra fees and literally not giving any of it to it's drivers..
Gotta love that the CEO was complaining about people not tipping workers, where he could make tips unnecessary. Gotta love the subtle way to put the problem back on the consumers and not the company. Pay a living wage, not a fair wage (based on other companies wages is not “fair”), living wage. Period. Then tipping is not necessary and an extra bonus.
lol just don't order uber eats and hey it yourself then. Drivers are essentially independent contractors, luckily if you don't tip in the doordash app your food ain't getting delivered. Simple fix for uber would be remove the option to take away tip. There is no way to validate using tip baiting in a good way
Thank you for this. I door dash and this is so true. I’ve built relationships with restaurants and some customers but those that are new can be rude and sometimes claim they didn’t get the food when you literally handed them the order in order to get free food. Little do they know it’s a violation and will terminate your relationship with door dash. It’s rude and sad. However that’s not just with ride share.
Or pickup your own stuff. Waste your own time and gas and pick up your own groceries, food, whatever. Complaining about something that's been a part of this particular service industry is bs. Americans Know Why they're tipping. It's not to supplement low pay. It's to reward a person for good/great service. So, when you get good service, F'n Tip. If you get great service, Tip A Little More. The people in the service industry aren't complaining about tips because they know they can, and Do, make More If customers tip according to the service they provide. You're all about The Experience, right? Well, That's what they're providing -- a great experience. So, fold that into the price. The better the experience, the more you tip. If the service wasn't that great, be honest with the server, throw a buck or two on the table, and don't go back. But, there are certain groups of Americans that do not want to tip and so are now blaming the hiring company instead of just Paying for the Service and Experience they get. They want great service, for nothing. Just Pay the servers, delivery drivers, and whomever else is providing you a great experience and stop acting like you don't know what's up. And using "corporate greed" ideology as an excuse for stealing back a promised tip because you're running a game to, Again, get something for nothing, is the weakest, lowest, greediest move of all. Don't wanna tip, burn your own time and resources and get your own ish. Problem Solved
They need to make it so drivers cannot see the tip. People are doing that because they have the perception that if they don't make the tip high, driver's won't deliver in a timely fashion. Frankly, Uber needs to pay their drivers well enough that the tip is a perk and not considered in compensation. That said, keep your word, if you say you're tipping high, then you shouldn't drop the tip later.
@@SteimieStinker You see the total estimated amount earned (Based on the tip inputted by the customer) and the distance+time when accepting. After doing a few orders and getting the tips and figuring out what the base pay was with the miracle of subtraction, you get a feel for 'this 5 minute delivery has x base' or 'that 15 min trip has y' and therefore you can deduce the tip. Plus, it's pretty easy to tell the difference between 3 dollars and 17.
On Uber I never had too much of a problem with the top baiting. That was more common on Instacart but GETTING PUNISHED BY UBER FOR REJECTING TRIPS was the real struggle!
Consider that menu prices are increased when using delivery services. Also you you pay delivery fees included in your total. So the customer is also being finessed.
Uber should just pay their employees properly. I am already paying 2x my original order, and not all of us live in cities that are walkable to get our food.
I don’t user Uber eats but the reason people do that is because if you don’t the driver will literally just drive around and hangout with your food in the car with zero sense of urgency. Tip culture is the problem, abolish tipping and don’t work for companies that won’t pay you a livable wage.
If you tip-bait like this, your name/phone should be blacklisted by all the delivery services so you never get the opportunity to stiff them again. Sort of the 21st century equivalent of "do not take checks from this man"
Omg you just unlocked an ooooold memory i hadnt thought about in ages 🤣🤣 every restaurant i worked at inckuding my parents restaurant back in the 90s and early 00s had these lists posted...and i sh*t you not...my bff and i got hired at sonic at the same time and like the first or second day we saw the list...AND HER MOM WAS ON IT 💀💀💀
They are, just by the individual drivers. I did Spark all last summer and in the Reddit you could tell it was a serious problem in some areas. We all made notes of tip baiters and customers to avoid. It got so bad that people stopped taking orders with tips and instead took lower non-tip orders to guarantee pay. I left and haven't been back.
But what happens to your job when no one orders take out …less hours less money for you because now why one is getting it themself and you need a new job. It’s like pizza, delivery or takeout? They already have to pay a 6$ delivery fee, tips are great but you are still getting paid hourly to go on that delivery tip or not, people complain “pick it up yourself then if you can’t tip” but then when it’s all carry outs now they are mad again because we have to cut hours due to there being NO deliveries to take because it’s to expensive to pay 10$ tip and 6$ delivery fee. If you tip less then 10$ on ANY order then trust me the workers are talking shit and not gunna take to kindly to you and that’s just SAD
They shouldn’t be able to reverse the tip that they’ve already issued. Even if it’s before the delivery. It’s a delivery is bad. They can contact the company and negotiate at that time. Uggg people
I am very grateful to get my food delivered to me, right at my door. I do not tip them through the system, instead I always give their tip directly in their hand. Their gratitude and smiles let's me know that I'm doing the right thing for them.
@@wintersantiago2274 a tip is a gift not their wage. Don’t confuse the two. They are also independent contractor and pay for all the cost of operations not Uber. I pay more taxes than a good portion are salaried. I received nothing the last few years because my income is too high. If you are mad about taxes get mad at these corporations and top 1% . Trump billionaire status paid $750.
Unfortunately we can't see if you write that on your instructions, all we see is payout and distance so most drivers will decline the $3 base pay order for the $10 order that will come up after rejecting the $3 one. I also have 'gambled' on base pay orders to see if I would get cash, and it only happens less than 1% of the time.
@@superdave4543 I understand that some drivers don't take $0 tips, however I PERSONALLY have never had an issue where nobody took my order. That's just my experience, if drivers expect something they get something if they expect nothing they still get something. I know for a fact that it works because I do it 🤷♀️
The truth is rideshare services would be unaffordably expensive if the drivers were fairly compensated for their time, labor, expenses, and risk. The first company to charge anywhere close to what the service is really worth would lose their market share overnight.
I drive Uber Eats. My gas this week was $93 so far, my average hourly wage is $16.66. Gas alone is between 25 and 35% of my take home. I’m retired but need to work part time to make ends meet. Tips make the difference.
When you’re charged 2$ per item on top of the menu price plus a service fee and a delivery fee.. but that tip.. lol you’re damn right I’m picking up my own food.
Especially cause the drivers really don’t see that delivery fee. When I do DoorDash it’s a set amount per mileage they just launched their per hour recently. But it could be $2.75 to go across town. And I know some of the restaurant fees are more than that. At least with Grubhub you get a predetermined mileage pay.
But, also, as a driver, don't expect a HUGE tip on a small order. Like that one driver that went viral a while back for telling the customer she gave a "lousy $5 tip" when the order was less than $20. That's over a 20% tip. What did you expect, for them to tip as much as the pizza cost? And, drivers behaving that way isn't all the uncommon these days either. If it had been me with that guy I would have canceled the $5 tip, if he doesn't appreciate it there's no reason for him to keep it. But, you nailed it when you said we need to figure out a better way than tipping.
It can also be INCREASED after the delivery if the delivery person is especially courteous. Sometimes I give additional CASH directly to the driver BECAUSE I know they need to pay for gas and car maintenance.
The restaurant I work at has a system where we charge an additional delivery fee of $3-5 depending on how far the driver has to travel. And that payment goes straight to the driver. Our manager will check the receipt and give the driver the fee in cash MINUTES after they get back.
Even Pizza Hut advertises the delivery fee is not for the driver. It's bad enough we're taxed on top of taxes. So you pay a Delivery Fee then pay a tip based on a percentage of the order costs + tax+ delivery fee are you kidding me? BTW, any tip recorded causes the government to tax the order again.
That's cute; just curious, are the drivers employees of your restaurant, and how wide is your delivery area? Because at a certain point, $3-$5 isn't adequate compensation.
This was also causing a problem in carryout for restaurants because most of our orders especially during covid were just doordash and Uber eats orders and at that time we didn’t have such a big staff so I’d had a negative impact on our tips for sure. Thank god they’ve started something where we start getting a few cents per order, it’s not a lot but it all adds up! I pray people start having compassion when it comes to tipping. It’s truly how alot of people make most of their living
This is why other countries don’t even have gratuity. People are just grateful. And compensated properly. People think it’s cute to be stingy and rude in the US.
Well apparently English Restaurants have started doing it. I went to a sit sound Fish and chips Restaurant in Whitby in Yorkshire and they've started adding a £1.50 automatic tip added to your bill..
I don't mind an automatic charge. That's fine. But when customers decide what the tip is then that's BS. Your hiding the real price. And you are blacking the customer for decent service. Tip is for excellent service not default work. Why are they there if not to write down my order and bring my food. They nod and smile and pretend to be friendly. Then get mad at me cause they can't pay rent with their low paycheck? Um who is supposed to pay you me or your boss?
Hun it’s not stingy a $15 chipotle burrito delivered with fees can be $25 easy. On top of that add tip. Paying 40-100% up charge and expecting to pay more on top of it is the issue. The corporation not paying a fair portion to the workers that make it run is the issue. Quit blaming customers for crappy employee structures. Uber got paid big time and pays poverty fees to the drivers. Place your anger towards the corporations. Stop supporting businesses that treat workers like this.
Well the Uber CEO is in a perfect position to remove tips for Uber and pay a living wage to their drivers.
Like that will EVER HAPPEN. 🤣🤣
But then Uber, DoorDash, etc. would have to raise the price of delivery.
@@MimiKeelthey wouldn’t have to, they could just make less profit, but that’s never going to happen
@@ckdraws410 Actually, in the 14 years Uber has existed, it has never turned a profit. Uber drivers absolutely deserve more than they get, but I unfortunately, the foundation of Uber was designed with underpaying drivers to make a profit.
@CK Draws you go into business to make lots of money, if not you just work for someone else and are less likely to lose everything. Risk reward factor.
They dont need to "find out" how to pay their drivers a living wage, they need to actually do it, period.
No they actually don’t. Because customers will just pay for it. So they get away with enjoying more profits. They only have to change once its economically necessary to do so. This can be done down to a city by city basis cause of all the data they can gather by users. So city A can be slightly more expensive and 2 towns over can be a bit cheaper based on what people are willing to spend there
@@joelt1002 No, drivers need to be paid more, period. People are barely getting by because that's the only job they can afford to do.
@@krowthecorvid1315 You're talking about what's fair, whereas I'm talking about what they actually "need" to do in real life to accomplish their goals as a company. They don't "need" to pay drivers any more if they're getting away with paying them their current rates and carrying on a multi billion dollar business as usual.
If no one wants to tiptoes go get your own food. I always go get my own food because door dash said they delivered my food. I never received it so I don't use these services anymore
@@krowthecorvid1315 why do they need to be paid more period? If that's your skill level isn't that your problem?
Why should I make less so that you make more without you having any more skills or any risk?
The true villain is the CEO btw.
He knows of the problem. Complains to the customers. Wants customers to pay his employees bet. Yep that tracks.
Without tip Uber drivers get paid $0.44 per mile. The cost for maintenance, wear and tear, and gas is above $0.50.
Because no free money? Get into the real world.
@@BeeRich33 free money???
Free? They're working. A lot of countries don't tip whatsoever because it's the responsibility of the owner to pay their workers. That's what the real world should look like, everywhere.
That doesn’t make the customers any less of a villain.
I am cheap and I stay away from places that wants tips.
Boring selfish and selfish
It’s annoying and it keeps corporations greedy
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Good thats how it should be done theres nothing wrong with that its better than actually ordering service from someone and not tipping
Well stay off the luxury services then and do everyone a favor
If the CEO of Uber really cared, he would change Uber’s policies & not charge a 25% commission from their drivers!
Exactly, the fees charged to the driver and the customer are ridiculous. Uber needs to take a smaller piece of the pie, and everyone would make more money, and I'd bet they'd still be hella profitable cause their service would be more affordable.
If Uber cares they could pay their drivers a bigger portion of all the fees they care the customer.
@@sd1660 that's basically what op said
Especially considering these people drive and put wear snd tear on their own cars. The comp is only providing the online infrastructure. Come up off some of that percentage. It's wild that they convinced people to use their own cars and still they take a huge chunk lol.
@@aerternaeaerumna5158 and you take issue with me agreeing with them?? Slow day for ya
It's mind blowing that Americans don't push harder for living wages and still resort to tipping/tip shaming people
Literally was looking for this comment
Ikr. They'll do anything to defend their weird tipping culture it's bizarre
but girls love tip baiting people though
Exactly! Its shameful. Richest country in the world they say
@@PrincessAfrica3 30 trillion in debt
That’s y I always tip in cash. Those systems need,serious overhaul
Virtually no one will deliver your food from doordash or ubereats if you tip in cash... Cash is the way drivers would prefer it but without a guarantee of getting it they won't take the chance. Without a tip the driver is paying to deliver food for people which is absolute stupidity and any driver that would accept that I would not eat the food from😮
I wanted to just leave a little note for you. A lot of people who use delivery are not doing it because they are lazy. Delivery can be an incredibly important service for those who are disabled. And unfortunately, the money disabled people live off of is often just not enough to do anything and tipping is not an option, however if they don’t order food, they don’t eat.I personally am getting away from the laziness mindset and advocating for employers to pay their employees a living wage.
I absolutely agree
I feel like it's so easy to forget about experiences that aren't our own but are just as real
Your still going to pay. They add on extra fees.
Exactly! Sometimes it is not laziness! But that’s still not an excuse for tip baiting. If you can’t pay a tip, don’t pretend you will. ❤ It may take longer to find a driver but it’s still not ethical to trick a low income person into helping us.
@@shayelea oh definitely. Tip bating is bad for sure!
Uhhh what were you doing before these services appeared? Just curious
This could easily be fixed if CEO paid the workers more 😂
Ive been begging uber eats for the 5 years i worked for them. Yes in the beginning youre not making minimum wage, ghey wanna see that youre dedicated and not a theif, after a month of 120 hours you earn more.
I don’t want to be an employee
@Andie that sucks. I hope you found a place better that appreciates your value. It's really hard tbh many jobs that hire are big companies and no matter how much and how long we work there it's like our work is never valued. With everything being more expensive, these mega companies need to pay us more cause price of living increased 😮💨
That's the problem tho, drivers know it is easier to shame/deny service for customers that don't tip than to go after the real culprit, the company. With the tips some employees get at some companies it is far more profitable for the worker to insist on tips instead of even a good wage. Everybody wants a tip these days and tips anywhere from 15% to 30% are now required, that's ridiculous, everyone is struggling.
Literally!!!!
I don't agree with any system that requires tipping to make up the difference but holy hell tip baiting is just fucking mean.
She didn't mention anything about whether or not the customer got their order within a reasonable time. I got a feeling she's only saying one side of the story.
@@wisdomlounge4452 What’s the other side of the story? I had to wait 30 minutes for food to arrive, so next time I’ll trick underpaid service workers to get it faster.
@joanne palmer You'll just get reported.
Exactly we are already paying!!!
@@wisdomlounge4452 no, you can remove the tip no matter what.
I’m so grateful for delivery drivers and I always give a generous tip because without them I wouldn’t get my food when I don’t feel like going to pick up myself. 🤷🏾♀️ So thank you delivery drivers.
As a former server, I always tip more than what's suggested. Empathy
U need a medal for that? lol
Good for you nobody cares
@@DashieNCheekie kool
America needs to get its act together, pay a f***ing decent salary for service workers
They do. America's need to wake up that they are being lied to regarding tipping vs servers wages.
I’m not in America but yes I agree
Definitely need help. Stupid people go into dead end, entry level jobs and expect a living wage.
But in the meantime there is no excuse for taking it out on the workers.
@@katieedwards5926 just take it out on the customers. Thats much better.
Just get rid of this ridiculous tipping system. And pay your workers a fair pay.
How? Uber dosent make money in fact they're losing money hand over fist.
@@undauntable6456 if they aren't making any money maybe it's time to close shop or do a major reorganisation. Or just make your customers pay a fair price for your service. So you can pay your workers a fair salary/commission.
@@nacholibre4516 Why are you telling me they should go close down? Write a letter to the CEO and explain to him why he needs to close shop you lemon. But youre right.. Telsa should have closed shop when they werent making any money. Same for Facebook, Apple, Google, and most other companies that make up the XLK. Someone needs to make you a CEO right away. But listen to this cause its really crazy. People dont have to work for uber or lyft... Crazy right?
I wish that was the case
@@undauntable6456 I'm telling you because you're the one making the argument they can't quit the tipping system because they aren't making any money. And indeed these companies still exist, because somebody is making a shitload of money. But it isn't the hard working people at the bottom
lol I’m glad somebody is calling them out exactly tip accordingly
I did that last time.. guess I’m a terrible person
Amen Lady. I ask my delivery drivers if they're getting all the tip I sent them. I even ask them to show me so I kno those restaurants aren't gettn ova on them but using me as the scapegoat.
💯👍🏾
The fact that you have to tip, means you are already a scapegoat
"need to find a way to pay them a living wage..." they could just....... Pay them a living wage.
But yes.... Tip reasonably ~
Europe adds a service charge in most countries and sometimes an additional cover charge is also added.
@@a.mathis9454 They do that here too, a set delivery fee and a service charge that is percentage based on the cost of the items. Uber simply takes it all for themselves
You sound ridiculous these workers don't work for uber so no learn
how to tip adequately or pick up your own food
@@GH23d7sL45 if your business model can't support the employees you choose to hire, your business is failing to begin with.
Bro is worth 4 billion and he wants ✨️us✨️ to pay his workers better.
clearly no one here knows the valuation of Uber…
@@timland9855 gurentee it's more than what everyone who has commented on this post makes put together.
We pay it either way. Tips are just currently easier to swallow for more people, as it hides the extra fees in the form of an "optional gift." Allowing the listed price for service to be lower.
People who work in these companies go in with the full understanding that they risk low pay on some days, but have the potential for major profits from more generous guests. The gamble is worth it for enough people that the companies can afford to replace anyone pushing for higher guaranteed pay.
Uber and other rideshare companies understand human psychology as it relates to money. If Uber raised the service fees to properly compensate drivers without tips, the price hike would result in more than half the customerbase boycotting them, meaning they would go from finally expecting to turn a profit this year, to going bankrupt overnight. The illusion of the payment being optional makes it easier to swallow, even though you end up paying the same on average either way.
@@myria2834 "allowing prices to be lower" is actually a big fat lie they came up with so you wouldn't argue about tipping. They make more profit by making their customers cover the entire wage of the servers essentially allowing them to have free labor and only pay taxes on their employees
@@myria2834 it's not about raising fees so they can keep their million and billion dollar profits rolling in instead of taking even a slight pay cut. They make more in an hour than any of their employees in an entire year of work.
Yes, thank you! Whether you agree with tipping or not, it's still my time, fuel and wear and tear on my car. It's really frustrating when you're bringing someone their food and your time and expenses mean nothing and you end up losing money.
Exactly!
EXACTLY !!!!
I didn’t know one could even do that. That’s evil.
I just don’t use the service bc I refuse to pay an extra $15+ between tip and fees for a $9 order 😂😂😂
Exactly I’d rather boil and egg and call it a day 😅
Same but a loooot of people think it’s worth it. There’s a market for everything!
Yeah it's a luxury service it's not for broke motherfukers that don't want a tip
I highly agree 😂 omgg I used to use Uber eats religiously a couple of years ago and I completely stopped and cook my own meals. If I want to eat out I go to a nice restaurant. The fees from delivery services are so dumb
That's fine. I barely use the service myself, but when I do, I know I'll be tipping and factor it into my cost/value of using the service.
It's so convenient when you're sick or have had surgery, for example. I used to deliver too, and I delivered groceries to a lot of elderly and could see myself doing that when I'm older if I needed too.
The least the Uber CEO could do is pay these people a decent wage
i know right?
but how will the Uber CEO afford his next yacht and mansion?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!
Good one !😅
It’s not that easy tho…these companies don’t even churn a profit as it is
The model is flawed, the top ARE making big bank, and enticing investment. What do they care ? They're getting paid !
you are amazing !!! everyone needs to see this . I don’t know if the customers think drivers get compensated for there gas and vehicle maintenance. But they don’t . They may only get paid $2.00 from Doordash for a 10 mile delivery. I wouldn’t do it myself , how do they make any money ? If you do not like to tip , then go get your food yourself .
Not too lazy to pick up my own food but I order delivery due to a disability! So don't judge others! And I always tip well!
Absolutely ❤ I'm gonna go out on a limb and say a huge percentage of young Americans get food delivered...for all different reasons. Not for you to judge. EW 🤢
Another problem is customers who lie and say we didn't deliver their food. I've had a customer look me in the eye, HAVE A CONVERSATION with me, and then report the food as not delivered! I can't imagine wanting a free meal so bad that I'd get someone in trouble just to get it!
Record all your deliveries which includes the address of the place you are delivering to.
Use a timesamp camera it also has gps feature so both will be embedded into the picture and I send it to them. Even if they want it handed to them I try to take a picture if I can before I do. Lying about not getting delivery is just part of the deal. Cover your ass
That's literally how I got fired from doordash, even though I had been their top dasher for MONTHS! All it took was 1 person claiming their food was never delivered..what's worse is it was a hotel delivery, so it could have been easily checked into on the security cams..
Yup this has happened to me. And they had a ring doorbell. So when Uber called me to ask me why I didn't deliver the food. I told him I did the customer has it on camera andi told Uber that they needed to get the video evidence to prove I did.
I've had a few orders that were missing items, so i complained but how would that be on the driver? Most places tape the bags shut these days so that would be on the restaurant for not including the item.
If Uber really cared, they would make the tip-baiters file a formal complaint in order for Uber to consider lowering the tip BUT THEY DON’t CARE because it doesn’t affect their profits. Also, I think Uber has recently LOWERED the SUGGESTED TIP amount. Ain’t nobody gonna stop their car, go to restaurant, wait for the order, deliver the order for low tip amounts.
Bro its bulshit UBER doesnt pay hourly
@@warhawk837 how is that relevant?
@@brandonj7586 because its what makes driving around worth it to begin with.
@warhawk As an uber driver even accepting $4 for 3 hours has gotten me $50 not bad when youre in a pinch. As someone who has been wprking for uber for 5 years, they do pay hourly you dont see the rest until an hour after you end your shift. It always comes out to $23- $30 an hour for me. Ive never stole food and i stay constant. Tip baiting happens ALL the time so i just accept every order. I hate relying on tips but this is my source of income right now.i actually do something someone can do themselves. If someone is disabled ill go over and beyond to help, but someone who is simply lazy should pay more. Yeah. Uber eats needs to pay more too because even though i get that hourly $5 an hour still goes to gas.... My head lights. Tire accidents etc. Yes i get back in taxes.
@@andie3448 Yeah I know but I'm wondering how them paying hourly or not is relevant to the comment they replied to
Thats crazy I was wondering if that was happening to me last week and now I see this!!! This confirmed my theory
If you pay attention a lot of the restaurants prices are jacked up $1-$2 on each menu item. I used it 1 time paid 70 sum instead of the 50 sum I usually pay, the amount of food was way less. It was cold, plus the fee for delivery. Plus a tip. I paid 2x the amount I usually do. I was done that day. I go it myself or I eat house food.
Remember back in the day, when the restaurant had a car and one of their stuff delivered the food. Good times
now businesses just stay understaffed in reach of a greedy owners gain
it’s still like this in many places where i live. not all restaurants but it frequently happens
I don' recall burger king or olive garden having this 🤔. Did you tip that driver as well? Doesn't matter whose doing the driving. You should still be tipping. And if you can't afford to tip, stay home and eat. Or go through a drive thru window.
@@lazer2521 what ? didn’t talk about burger king. i’m talking about local restaurants. i live in france btw. and tipping isn’t expected since people have normal wages. i still tip a bit when i can tho. i’m a student
@@elisa1213 i wasn't even addressing you.
I am a rideshare driver, and a man gave me a $30 tip through the app. He kept telling me I was a great diver, clean car, great music, etc. He wanted to make sure I got it, so he stayed in the car and confirmed I received the tip after I closed out the trip. It popped up, and he left the car complimenting me again as he left.
The next morning, the tip is gone.
I called ADMIN, and they said the person took it back. I explained the whole interaction with her. She said that happens a lot, and it is called Tip Baiting.
Look, if you don't want to tip, no big deal, dont tip. But to talk about the tip, wait in the car until i see it, I confirm it, and I believe I've received it, and then take it away is some low class BS.
That is demonic!
I’m sorry that happened to you, I hope you get more tips. 💐
I hope nobody ever accepts his Uber requests again.
I was a driver before they allowed tips and I still did it and did well… Tipping isn’t a law.
That’s so disrespectful. I’m sorry that happened to you girl. This industry is cut throat.
I’m a broke as hell college student but I always try and pay at least two dollars for door dash.
People don’t realize that servers in restaurants also lose money when people do not tip due to tip outs. Usually they lose 20-30%, however at some places (like hibachi) servers lose 70% of their tips. We really need a solution to all of this regarding tipping culture in the U.S.
I tip, and I tip fairly. But I use these services because I’m disabled, not because I am lazy. That’s all 😊
Yeah I don’t get why people assume that every one using delivery apps are just lazy and won’t just for get food. For some people it’s made life so much easier but they can’t afford to pay so much in service fees then be expected to pay the same amount in a tip. Even sadder than tip baiting is people refusing orders because the tip isn’t enough. Which happens more than tip baiting. Some people need delivery and Uber should pay these people a proper amount and tipping shouldn’t be necessary. People would still be greedy and want extra tips unfortunately but it would become less of a trend to just not take orders with low or no tips. Tipping culture has because insane and we shouldn’t be fighting each other we should be fighting the corporations who aren’t paying enough.
Yes! For me I don't have a car and if I use lyft/Uber to go back and forth to go get food. It would be cheaper for me to use the delivering apps and I tip every time.
@@geenagreybull5359hello beautiful
Exactly. Annoyed with the ableist mentality that the only reason someone isn't picking up stuff themselves *must* be laziness.
I will never tip online for delivery again. I’ve had sooo many mess ups and lost way too much money. My rule is “I’ll tip you at the door”. It’s either leaving my food in the wrong place, giving the wrong order, missing an item, etc. I’ve seen good drivers working in fast food. when you tell them something is unavailable they call the customer. majority of drivers don’t and will bring you one out of the 6 things you ordered instead of telling you so you can get a damn refund or get something else. Restaurants are at fault too nothing is ever correct but then here comes Uber refusing to give you your money back even if you have proof. I’m so done with ordering food. I’ll get it my damn self even if I have to walk (I don’t drive).
Tips shouldn’t be mandatory. The employer is responsible for the employees wages, not the customer.
hush you make to much sense in this clown world.
They are not mandatory but if you want someone e to accept your order for delivery then tip. Most drivers will not deliver the food if it doesn’t even pay for their gas. Think of the tip as shipping. You paid for your items and now you are paying for them to be “shipped” to you. Otherwise you go and pick up your own food. Tipped workers are among the hardest workers out there and not justly compensated for it!
Exactly, I didn’t like her seemingly attempted guilt tripping, “ if you’re too lazy to get you’re food, the least you could do”. No. It’s their choice and their money, it is the companies job to pay them. You can tip if you want. If they don’t pick up your order, that’s up to them. Maybe getting another day is a choice.
yes but unless the system gets reformed the current system makes sure you're responsible to make sure they don't fucking starve so dont be a dick and waste their time and money when they need every fucking trip to get their basic necessities met dammit.
@@applefarm6126you sound like a horrible person
I shouldnt be tipping when their charging me extra money for my food but also in stupid fees just for placing a delivery order this bs
Back when I worked at Papa Johns, I'd hear delivery drivers coming in saying they got tip baited often.
It's insane USA does not pay for their delivery drivers or waiters. In Europe Tip means extra not your entire wage (which should be paid for by the restaurant owner)
It means that in the US also, just the income from tips became so reliable people were willing to work for a lower hourly wage.
At my job, tips essentially add an extra dollar to my hourly wage. Even with that, I can't afford a studio apartment in the city where I live, however i am grateful to be able to save up
What? They’re talking about Uber eats drivers and such. These are independent workers, they don’t work for these restaurants… You’re not understanding
That's what they do to keep you at minimum wage it makes no sense that the restaurant up charge 3x or more but don't pay workers minimum wage
@@tedtimberson4262 For some reason, people keep gaslighting and trying to guilt trip people into tipping, which is wrong and manipulative. It’s their choice.
The best thing would be that companies pay their employees . This is what happens in Asia. There is no tipping. The waiters and riders get a fixed amount for every order and delivery.
right now we don't have such a system in the US and the privileged like you aren't fighting for the ones who are financially struggling, delivering your food. either you tip or don't use the service. a better system on the opposite side of the world does not entitle you to screw over the workers over here.
Delivery drivers are independent contractors, not employees. Your tip is a bid for my services. If you don't offer a "tip" and someone else does, I will choose to accept the offer that makes more financial sense for me to accept.
@@Dave_of_Mordor I wouldn’t assume someone is “privileged”. Tipping is an option. The person didn’t say he/she’s “screw someone over”.
@@Dave_of_Mordor WTF! You are saying you don't have enough privilege?? An American?? Supposedly GreAtesT cOUntrY eVeR??
While my 3rd world country does!?!?
@@applefarm6126 Don't give me that BS. This is about tip baiting
Its just amazing to live in a place where corporations have to PAY their workers and tipping is not only not expected, its only to validate above average service.
I’m disabled, and sometimes if I don’t order delivery, I don’t eat. Like, I have just enough energy to get from bed to the door and back and then consume the food; I don’t even have the extra energy for the two minutes it will take to pour a bowl of cereal. Plus, sometimes if you’ve been bedridden all day, what you really need is a hot, full meal to help with energy levels, but FORGET the 10 minutes it would take to even make a bowl of ramen with a fried egg. It just is t happening.
Delivery (for food, groceries, prescriptions, etc) are vital services for those of us who sometimes (or always) have trouble leaving our houses. And we know we have to pay extra for these things - one of the many things that makes dealing with a disability expensive.
BUT that being said, I don’t agree with tip baiting. It’s just exploiting other lower-income people, and it’s not right.
Uber should be covering for gas and millage not the customers. I dont really used pick up apps cuz im cheap but fuck tipping culture. Just pay your own employees.
Not employees so tip thx.
Uber drivers and UberEats drivers are not employees of Uber. We are sub-contractors (self-employed). So when you make a fake claim of not receiving an order to get a refund when it has been delivered, they give us a "contract violation" and cancel our contract - we lose our jobs.
If you don't want to tip, that's fine. BUT don't be surprised if your order/delivery gets "floated" around between multiple drivers before somebody accepts it..... it may take awhile before somebody accepts the delivery.
I hope every restaurant and food apps ban you. If you are cheap, cook for urself. As a student, i try my best to tip as much as i can give, no need to be so selfish.
I hope gas and new tires are a write off for them. Especially with gas prices nowadays.
Uber drivers aren’t employees, they are contractors.
What I do is I set my tip percent to 15% so the driver doesn’t think they’re getting baited, then I increase it to 25% after I get the delivery. I don’t order often so I like to tip big. Working gig work like that isn’t easy, I wanna show appreciation. I also tip in cash too if I have it.
I work that’ gig and thank you. I love people like you bc when I see that extra tip my face lights up and it makes my day for real. Thank you! 🎉
Tank chew random stranger c:
I appreciate those cash tips!!!
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO TIP, YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY TO EAT OUT. PERIOD.
Screw that. I have enough for the bill. Thats all. Go cry about it
i aint tipping its up to the manager to raise salaries
Lol these tards and that entitlement mentality is why mfs be doing shit like tip baiting 😂 I'm glad 😊
It’s literally how it works in the rest of the world, blame the employers
If you’re not getting paid enough you should complain to your employer. Period.
In the same breath you trash tipping AND concede it is a great way to get your food delivered quickly.
So basically the company wants YOU to pay their employees and makes sure they don't classify them AS employees to do so, but then villanizes the customers for not doing what the company is actually supposed to do.
Like THAT was the worst thing he encountered? Not the exploitation if the "independent contractors"?
Not tipping is one thing. PRETENDING you're tipping then pulling the rug out from the worker later, THATS the scummy part.
@@Lugh314 yeah but drivers are not taking low tip orders. Customers are just using whats at their disposal
@Bruce Wayne if you care so much about getting your food on time, you should act like you appreciate the service 🤷♂️. They aren't employees, they can be choosy. Doesn't make lying any more moral.
If you don't want to tip, then don't tip. If that doesn't work, learn from it. Don't double down on being shitty.
@@KC-tk3oi drivers get to choose which order to pick up. Customers get to change their minds about the tip. I see no problems
@@brucewayne3892 changing what you pay after a service is performed is unethical and illegal most anywhere else. The fact that they allow it here is insane.
So happy to live somewhere where tipping delivery drivers is not a thing. The app I use doesn’t even have a place where you can add a tip. This is because delivery drivers are paid a decent wage and don’t have to rely on customers deciding whether or not they want to tip the drivers.
Where you live?
@@bohemianbookworm9361Anywhere where tipping is optional and is considered an added bonus - so not in the US apparently . I tip a couple of £2 when someone delivers my food and they are grateful because it's just not that common here in the UK.
@@JessicaMiller-pc4dj do service workers get paid the same as like, retail workers in the UK? Here in the US they get paid much less. If it wasn’t for the tips no one would be working those jobs here, they pay much less than the regular minimum wage. We live on the tips, our checks are like, gas money.
They aren't employees of the company. They are independent contractors. You are tipping the driver directly for providing you the convience of delivering your meals. If you want a driver to take notice, you offer them an acceptable amount to make it worth their while.
@@annward7794 I totally get that, but my take is that minimum wage workers in theory would never be able to eat out or order delivery because they can't afford it - because they have to top up the wages of even worse paid workers - does that make sense?
Thank you!!! Delivery drivers deserve to be tipped! They are bringing you food to your door!!! Out of all the outrageous tipping options now, delivery drivers are the most deserving of tips
Agreed and we should always aim $5 or more (usually 15% in my experience) for tips but I'd refrain from calling people lazy for not being able to pick up their own food. Some of us have multiple jobs and can't leave the gig/don't have enough of a lunch break or finanical means for transport, or even if we do then there's childcare to take care of. Kinda sucks when you're sticking up for service workers then....putting us down in the same breath?
I have a friend who was doing grocery deliveries and a woman had stated she would get a large tip. She had many many groceries including large cases of water that were heavy, heavy heavy. She delivered everything on time and even though it was a difficult delivery, she was looking forward to the money as a single mother. Then the woman took away the entire tip. She told me she was tempted to go back and slash every tire on the woman’s car but of course she didn’t. I admired her restraint.
Wow so evil that she would do that. What an awful poor excuse for a human being
I hope that woman gets karma. I can't believe someone is that lazy and selfish.
I was tip-baited last week, and I fully had the dude’s address memorized somehow (he lived like 2min from my house so maybe that’s why lol) and I so wanted to go back and be like wtf dude. Obviously, not a good idea, but I know to cancel that dude’s trip since I know his name too since it was unique
I was lucky enough to also get a few tippers that night that gave me extra tips on top of the upfront one so I was still covered luckily 😊
Had this happen to me too. I stopped doing grocery deliveries because of the number of people who take fully take their tips away even after they thanked me so happily as they took in their massive grocery orders from me. Ugh.
How about get a real job? 🤦🏿♂️
I've only removed my tip twice.
First was because the driver literally ate half my fucking food. He tore the safety tape/staples that the restaurant placed.
Second was because the driver opened his car door and placed my food in a puddle on the pavement and drove off. Like, you could have at least called me, I would've come out, but I didn't know he was even there.
I removed a tip once because I am disabled in a wheelchair and in my instructions I explicitly state that and ask them to please not block the path of the door with the groceries because I have to open the door all the way to get outside. Well this guy leans a 20lb bag of dog food against the door trapping me inside. So I call out after him asking him to please move it because I'm in a wheelchair and can't open the door now. He starts yelling at me and cursing while he's moving it then kicks the bag on his way out, tearing a small hole in it. I don't know what kind of bad day he was having but who yells at a person in a wheelchair for needing a little assistance? It's rude to put items against the door anyway, disabled or not. Especially if its drinks and the door knocks them over. I had someone do that once too but even then I didn't take away the tip completely, just reduced it.
Same. I live in a highrise smack dab downtown in the city so I rely on services. You would not believe how many times my food was tampered with. I'm a repeat customer and I know when half of my plate is gone.
I tip generously and it makes no difference. 15% on 2 burgers that were 5 blocks away and $80, for you to call me and tell me to come down and get it instead of taking the 30 second elevator ride. They do sneaky stuff all the time. I'm sorry that your children are in the car, but I left you a good tip and personal things should not be placed on a customer. I had a woman threaten to come back later because I told her I'm disabled and I tip generously so there's no issue with the elevator. They try to text me for the pin when security is telling them "you can't leave that in the lobby." One guy texted me and said "you're lucky I even took your order" because $5 wasn't good enough for a tiny order from a dunkin 2 blocks away. 30% of my orders go objectively wrong. It's insane, the entitlement while servers wait on you for 1-2 hours for 18%.
@@mischievousamoeba "I'm sorry your kids are in the car, but i tipped you well" so you need to leave them in the car, because that's not my problem? That's one of those mitigating circumstances that YOU need to compromise on, don't you think?
Good ole America, making excuses for the person who brought their kid on a job and expecting the consumer to “compromise” for the workers personal problems. Here’s a fun idea, don’t bring your kids on a job if it’ll keep you from doing the job.
He needed to bring the kids with him to deliver it to her door. How is the person ordering suppose to know a driver is working with his/her family in the car. If the driver took on a job responsibility he/she is suppose to fill it to the end. It is what is expected. That is why the customer is allowed to add comments such as the one she requested.
I'm unemployed and looking for work. I'd heard about this and THIS is why I don't do UBER EATS
I don’t agree with the last statement if we are too lazy to pick up our own food we also pay additional service and delivery fees . Tip baiting is disgusting but not tipping at all doesn’t make you a horrible person, it’s literally optional :)
For some of us, it's not laziness, we're just disabled. I use walmart+ delivery because otherwise I wouldn't be able to get my groceries safely. I tip as much as I can, but that's usually only two dollars, I can't afford a huge tip every time I get my groceries. I tipped $5 once because the deliverer was nice though.
It's not really about asking for a huge tip. There will generally be someone who sees the order and takes care of it (especially if it's a smaller order). I'm assuming you're not putting in a huge one and then changing it after.
@D O'Neill well, I can't afford to not have free delivery, so my orders are always above $35 usd, usually somewhere around 50 so I don't need to make multiple orders tho. I get everything I need for about a week in one go. And no, I don't usually change my order unless I forgot something essential. I can't afford to tip much, but I do try to tip as much as reasonably possible for me.
I dont think you understand what the issue is.
What people are doing is the order itself is say 30$ and they put in a tip amount of 15$ so the driver delivers it faster.
But once they get the order they make the tip amount like 2$ or nothing.
Your 35$ walmart order you are not putting a 15$ tip on it then taking it back. Your tip amount is the same from start to finish.
Its the people lying about the tip amount to get better service that are lazy shit heads.
If 2$ is all you can afford thats ok- honestly I would expect most people dont tip anything with walmart deliveries because they actually get a "real wage" vs the people we normally would tip(food delivery drivers, waitresses, bartenders), many peoples financials suck right now especially with how poorly the USA sets up people on disability.
In short- your good/you are not the a-hole here.
@@D.ONeill I dont think its that you explained it poorly- just that it's such a foreign concept of a new way to be a trash human is sometimes hard for normal people to understand.
Like I would have never thought to do something like this ever. It hurts my brain that "people" are actually doing this to other people.
Tipping culture seriously needs to go, and Federal Minimum Wage needs fixed.
Honestly this sounds like a government issue. I’m sorry you have to be paying a for profit company to make deliveries for you. I don’t think you should be paying for that if you have a disability. Getting groceries is a necessity and there should be a government funded program that allows you to get groceries delivered to you for free. That way you and the Uber driver both don’t get screwed. It’s just a fucked up system.
Of course the biggest issue he found was customers not tipping😂
I was tip baited TWICE today! The first time, I was supposed to have been paid $10 ($2 base, $8 tip) but I was instead paid $4 ($2 base, $2 tip) and for another delivery, I was supposed to be paid $18.09 ($3.20 base, $14.89 tip) but I was instead paid $11.28 ($3.20 base, $8.08 tip).
Bro! It’s one thing to not tip, but to deliberately trick a driver into thinking they’ll get a tip only to not tip them or reduce it is just borderline evil.
If you’re the type of person who does this, you don’t deserve food delivery services.
Why should we tip when we are already paying for delivery ? What with US and it's tipping culture.? The drivers are getting paid to do their job
This was a thing when I did Instacart for awhile as well. Once had a person with a $200+ order and a $15 tip, as soon as I got in my car from dropping it off, the tip was changed to $1. Really I don’t think it should be allowed to change tips after a certain time. I understand why it was implemented, sometimes a driver can just really mess up, but I feel it’s abused too much by people. Especially when you aren’t being compensated for gas 😅
If the food was still there i would have took that shit back and took it back to the restaurant.
I definitely think there should be Some way for the shoppers to still get their money, Like maybe they should set up a dispute system.
The company should pay for your gas not the customer.
@@gypsymoon246 If the shoppers don’t require a living wage from their employer, why demand tips from their customers?
@@wintersantiago2274 for the time being, you either tip or don't use the service, you entitled pos
I go the opposite. I typically give a low tip and if the order actually gets picked up and delivered I bump it up
Right! I didn’t know people also tipped high when wanting their food delivered fast 😭 I thought I was a genius. At least I’m no greedy monster.
@@OkayMaybe806 yeah I realized that's the play during Covid when my orders kept getting stolen
Surprised you even get your food delivered. I'm a driver with several years of experience. I can tell you that I have never delivered an order based on a possible tip after delivery. If the initial pay isn't sufficient I don't take it. ❤
From a wise driver perspective. You can't invest time and money into a delivery hoping there will be a tip on the back end. It costs money to operate our vehicles regardless of how an order plays out. You can't gamble on post tips and expect to be profitable long term. The tip must be shown up front and be sufficient for the time invested by the driver. Period.
@randyt-pi9oo Randy you typed a lot even though no one asked your opinion
European here, the solution ought to be pretty obvious I feel:
Just pay people a living wage, rather than relying on tipping.
Here tipping is the cherry on top, not the norm.
I’ve worked in a restaurant for a bit over half a year, and gotten tipped once, but I’m not hurting for money
I fking love how the entire solution came about as tip more.
I don’t think we should be advocating tipping on these platforms. If they LOSE money because customers don’t tip that’s an absolute problem with the company. The customer is already paying dramatically higher prices. These multi BILLION dollar companies need to provide for their employees. Employees get upset at customers bc they didn’t tip and it becomes not worth their time. Get mad at your employer who isn’t paying you! Employers sit back and love when public tell each other to tip and how wrong it is not to, that way they can continue to not have to pay more. Stop telling us to tip, and start telling companies to lay their workers justly.
She definitely said that tipping sucks and we need a better system, but for now this is the system we're dealing with, and it's true for pizza delivery people too. I delivered pizza for a long time and there were definitely days when I came home with less than it took to fill up my tank. I didn't want to continue working there, but no matter how many applications I put in I couldn't get a call back for anywhere else for over a year. In general I managed to scrape enough to pay my bills, and that was a lot better than just not having a job, so I stayed.
I def use food delivery bc my chronic illness makes it impossible for me to cook or drive sometimes, not bc I'm "too lazy to pick up my own food". But I hear you and Would NEVER do this!! 😱
Edit: I spelled 'delivery' wrong lol
Have you ever considered the prepackaged fresh or frozen chef meals that you can subscribe to online? I dated someone who did that because he’d forget to eat otherwise. Sometimes we’d go back to his house after one of my shifts and just heat up some meals. He’d always let me order them for him so he’d have the ones in hand that I liked, and they were pretty good. Way better than a regular frozen dinner because they were made in small batches by chefs in a kitchen and then frozen. I wish I could remember the name of the company, but there’s probably lots of them out there, and I’m sure it varies by region, but maybe something to look into?
I also have food and groceries delivered because I am disabled. I set the tip to 15% then raise or lower it afterwards depending on if they followed my instructions on how to deliver it or ignored it and made things super difficult on me. I do state why I need it done the way I ask.
You don’t have to tip SH!T because it’s not the law! Tip what you are comfortable with!
@@theoriginalkrabbypatty there are other reasons for tipping rather than it not being against the law to not tip...like not being an asshole for one.
Same. That comment annoyed me.
I totally agree. In my building most don't tip. I encourage them to do so but many are poor with no wheels. If I can't tip 30%, I don't order.
I've seen and tip baited way before people were talking about it. The app controls that decision and that option to reduce or eliminate tip all together. This is bad for the driver, but it's just humans being humans finding flaws in the system and abusing it for their advantage. Food and deliveries are extremely overpriced and its just gonna get worse. This is why I use Walmart for groceries and I cook all my own meals ahead of time and just reheat. I miss eating at restaurants but I always got sick🤮💩 regardless if it's fine dinning, casual or fast food.
Plus not everyone who uses a food delivery service is lazy. I’ve had surgery and couldn’t walk so I ordered delivery. Plus I made sure to tip.
Yea, and I live in a house of 3 working adults and we only have one car. So, when my roommate is in the office, I sometimes order food on doordash
and uber and doordash whatever up charges all the food but now they are asking us to pay even more to their drivers instead of the money from the up charges food and delivery service!?!
W customer
Set the price accordingly so driver won’t have to rely on tips.
I was a delivery manager for Panera Bread before they switched to Uber Eats and it was a sweet gig. Paid my drivers 12 an hour and they kept all their tips. They made at least 15 an hour in tips. Plenty of hours and all of them were normal hours. No insane nights. Just some early coffee runs and I was the AM driver.
Uber eats sucks. The personal delivery driver is one of those jobs that use to be a decent stepping stone job. You could pay your bills and add to your resume as both a line worker and a driver.
Really sucks, man. Always tip well.
I can't believe they even have the option to drop the tip after it's already put up
My dad works for uber and he screenshots the high tips for this reason
It is good to an extent. I had a person deliver to the complete wrong building, give no image of proof they delivered, ignored my messages asking if they delivered to the wrong buildings and I had to walk to the other buildings multiple floors before I finally found it. I'd say thats a good reason to drop a tip to zero.
You know it's weird. Maybe tip baiting wouldn't be a thing if they didnt mark up prices by 30 percent because Uber takes a insane cut! Maybe if they weren't charging you extra fees and literally not giving any of it to it's drivers..
Hey we found a tip baiter
@@nathanhendrickson790 lol what?
Gotta love that the CEO was complaining about people not tipping workers, where he could make tips unnecessary. Gotta love the subtle way to put the problem back on the consumers and not the company. Pay a living wage, not a fair wage (based on other companies wages is not “fair”), living wage. Period. Then tipping is not necessary and an extra bonus.
This is so stupid. I pay for the food + the delivery + I should also add a tip? What am I made of money?
”We need to find a better way to pay our service workers”…. Lady it’s called a decent wage. It’s not rocket science
Nah pay your workers better. Don't push that on your customers.
lol just don't order uber eats and hey it yourself then. Drivers are essentially independent contractors, luckily if you don't tip in the doordash app your food ain't getting delivered. Simple fix for uber would be remove the option to take away tip. There is no way to validate using tip baiting in a good way
It would still be passed onto the customers as higher prices. Still they should be paid better.
Exactly
@@JamFlexxyour food still gets delivered if you don't tip. I never tip to save money and I still get my food.
@@Waituntilyoulikemeagainyou can save even more money buy making your own food, cheap ass. Do you brag about that to potential dates?
‘Too lazy to pick up your own food’
I was with you till this line. Surely we can recognize that laziness is not the only reason for using one.
Thank you for this. I door dash and this is so true. I’ve built relationships with restaurants and some customers but those that are new can be rude and sometimes claim they didn’t get the food when you literally handed them the order in order to get free food. Little do they know it’s a violation and will terminate your relationship with door dash. It’s rude and sad. However that’s not just with ride share.
No job should pay it’s employees so low that they have to rely on tips. Period.
These aren’t workers for Uber.. everyone is independent contractors that get to decide their own work.
Or pickup your own stuff. Waste your own time and gas and pick up your own groceries, food, whatever.
Complaining about something that's been a part of this particular service industry is bs.
Americans Know Why they're tipping. It's not to supplement low pay. It's to reward a person for good/great service. So, when you get good service, F'n Tip. If you get great service, Tip A Little More.
The people in the service industry aren't complaining about tips because they know they can, and Do, make More If customers tip according to the service they provide.
You're all about The Experience, right? Well, That's what they're providing -- a great experience. So, fold that into the price.
The better the experience, the more you tip. If the service wasn't that great, be honest with the server, throw a buck or two on the table, and don't go back.
But, there are certain groups of Americans that do not want to tip and so are now blaming the hiring company instead of just Paying for the Service and Experience they get. They want great service, for nothing.
Just Pay the servers, delivery drivers, and whomever else is providing you a great experience and stop acting like you don't know what's up.
And using "corporate greed" ideology as an excuse for stealing back a promised tip because you're running a game to, Again, get something for nothing, is the weakest, lowest, greediest move of all.
Don't wanna tip, burn your own time and resources and get your own ish.
Problem Solved
They need to make it so drivers cannot see the tip. People are doing that because they have the perception that if they don't make the tip high, driver's won't deliver in a timely fashion.
Frankly, Uber needs to pay their drivers well enough that the tip is a perk and not considered in compensation.
That said, keep your word, if you say you're tipping high, then you shouldn't drop the tip later.
Drivers can't see tips LOL
@@SteimieStinker they can. It is reflected in the total pay for that trip. That's the whole point of tip baiting
@@SteimieStinker You see the total estimated amount earned (Based on the tip inputted by the customer) and the distance+time when accepting.
After doing a few orders and getting the tips and figuring out what the base pay was with the miracle of subtraction, you get a feel for 'this 5 minute delivery has x base' or 'that 15 min trip has y' and therefore you can deduce the tip.
Plus, it's pretty easy to tell the difference between 3 dollars and 17.
@@kiwisocks doesn't pertain to me. I don't deliver anything under $15 going around the block.
@@SteimieStinker Good on you for knowing your worth. But congrats, you know how to calculate your base pay* for that block now.
On Uber I never had too much of a problem with the top baiting. That was more common on Instacart but GETTING PUNISHED BY UBER FOR REJECTING TRIPS was the real struggle!
tipping should be illegal. the pay alone should be at a sufficient level for the workers.
I hate tipping in America, I really do. We be on another level with it while everyone else is either chill or don't take it.
Consider that menu prices are increased when using delivery services. Also you you pay delivery fees included in your total. So the customer is also being finessed.
They still shouldn't tip bait thr driver though, it's not their fault so why punish them?
Uber should just pay their employees properly. I am already paying 2x my original order, and not all of us live in cities that are walkable to get our food.
Perks of not having a car tho. Lmao
I don’t user Uber eats but the reason people do that is because if you don’t the driver will literally just drive around and hangout with your food in the car with zero sense of urgency. Tip culture is the problem, abolish tipping and don’t work for companies that won’t pay you a livable wage.
If you tip-bait like this, your name/phone should be blacklisted by all the delivery services so you never get the opportunity to stiff them again. Sort of the 21st century equivalent of "do not take checks from this man"
That’s a really good idea.
Omg you just unlocked an ooooold memory i hadnt thought about in ages 🤣🤣 every restaurant i worked at inckuding my parents restaurant back in the 90s and early 00s had these lists posted...and i sh*t you not...my bff and i got hired at sonic at the same time and like the first or second day we saw the list...AND HER MOM WAS ON IT 💀💀💀
There's member groups we share info. I also have my no go restaurants and areas because those customers tend to be the biggest nontippers.
They are, just by the individual drivers. I did Spark all last summer and in the Reddit you could tell it was a serious problem in some areas. We all made notes of tip baiters and customers to avoid. It got so bad that people stopped taking orders with tips and instead took lower non-tip orders to guarantee pay. I left and haven't been back.
Or just design the app so the tipp is paid in advance
"Tipping sucks but if you're too lazy to go get your food, tip the person who brings it to you." Wise words my friend.
Or if you won’t tip, pick up the food yourself.
Precisely ✨
What's the delivery fee for then?
But what happens to your job when no one orders take out …less hours less money for you because now why one is getting it themself and you need a new job. It’s like pizza, delivery or takeout? They already have to pay a 6$ delivery fee, tips are great but you are still getting paid hourly to go on that delivery tip or not, people complain “pick it up yourself then if you can’t tip” but then when it’s all carry outs now they are mad again because we have to cut hours due to there being NO deliveries to take because it’s to expensive to pay 10$ tip and 6$ delivery fee. If you tip less then 10$ on ANY order then trust me the workers are talking shit and not gunna take to kindly to you and that’s just SAD
Tips should only be an option after the delivery. A tip before a delivery is not a tip, it's a bid.
If your too lazy to pickup your own food the least you can do is PAY THE DELIVERY FEE. Tipping is garbage
They shouldn’t be able to reverse the tip that they’ve already issued. Even if it’s before the delivery. It’s a delivery is bad. They can contact the company and negotiate at that time. Uggg people
I am very grateful to get my food delivered to me, right at my door. I do not tip them through the system, instead I always give their tip directly in their hand. Their gratitude and smiles let's me know that I'm doing the right thing for them.
Correct in cash no taxes paid.
@@sd1660 If I have to pay taxes on my money, so should they.
@@wintersantiago2274 relax you pos
@@wintersantiago2274 a tip is a gift not their wage. Don’t confuse the two. They are also independent contractor and pay for all the cost of operations not Uber.
I pay more taxes than a good portion are salaried. I received nothing the last few years because my income is too high. If you are mad about taxes get mad at these corporations and top 1% . Trump billionaire status paid $750.
You are a huge blessing 😢❤❤❤
I just give a 0 dollar tip and pay them in cash instead.
Unfortunately we can't see if you write that on your instructions, all we see is payout and distance so most drivers will decline the $3 base pay order for the $10 order that will come up after rejecting the $3 one. I also have 'gambled' on base pay orders to see if I would get cash, and it only happens less than 1% of the time.
Do you wait forever to get your order? Because I wouldn't take a $0 tip order.
Don't do that!!! we can see the no tip and your food is getting cold!
@@superdave4543 I understand that some drivers don't take $0 tips, however I PERSONALLY have never had an issue where nobody took my order. That's just my experience, if drivers expect something they get something if they expect nothing they still get something. I know for a fact that it works because I do it 🤷♀️
i put $5 tip in the app but when they get here i give them $5 cash and change the tip to 0
The truth is rideshare services would be unaffordably expensive if the drivers were fairly compensated for their time, labor, expenses, and risk. The first company to charge anywhere close to what the service is really worth would lose their market share overnight.
I drive Uber Eats. My gas this week was $93 so far, my average hourly wage is $16.66. Gas alone is between 25 and 35% of my take home. I’m retired but need to work part time to make ends meet. Tips make the difference.
When you’re charged 2$ per item on top of the menu price plus a service fee and a delivery fee.. but that tip.. lol you’re damn right I’m picking up my own food.
Especially cause the drivers really don’t see that delivery fee. When I do DoorDash it’s a set amount per mileage they just launched their per hour recently. But it could be $2.75 to go across town. And I know some of the restaurant fees are more than that. At least with Grubhub you get a predetermined mileage pay.
Why cant the company they work for pay it??
They don't want too and find excuses not too...
But, also, as a driver, don't expect a HUGE tip on a small order. Like that one driver that went viral a while back for telling the customer she gave a "lousy $5 tip" when the order was less than $20. That's over a 20% tip. What did you expect, for them to tip as much as the pizza cost? And, drivers behaving that way isn't all the uncommon these days either. If it had been me with that guy I would have canceled the $5 tip, if he doesn't appreciate it there's no reason for him to keep it. But, you nailed it when you said we need to figure out a better way than tipping.
I was ready to laughing because "I'm a bad person" but I totally agree here
I didn’t even know you can change tip after you got your food delivered. Whoever is doing this is a terrible person!!!
It can also be INCREASED after the delivery if the delivery person is especially courteous. Sometimes I give additional CASH directly to the driver BECAUSE I know they need to pay for gas and car maintenance.
Lol I didn’t either I’ve only seen the option to add If the delivery was great which mine are and i do often.
thank god there are compassionate and considerate ppl in this world
Yes it's happened to me where I would deliver the item and one hour later it would show one penny tip 😅😅😅😅😅😅 I can't make this up
No, the company is. They caused this whole shit storm mess
The restaurant I work at has a system where we charge an additional delivery fee of $3-5 depending on how far the driver has to travel. And that payment goes straight to the driver. Our manager will check the receipt and give the driver the fee in cash MINUTES after they get back.
Even Pizza Hut advertises the delivery fee is not for the driver.
It's bad enough we're taxed on top of taxes.
So you pay a Delivery Fee then pay a tip based on a percentage of the order costs + tax+ delivery fee are you kidding me?
BTW, any tip recorded causes the government to tax the order again.
That's cute; just curious, are the drivers employees of your restaurant, and how wide is your delivery area? Because at a certain point, $3-$5 isn't adequate compensation.
@@geoffreyjones3832 the government does NOT tax tips on the order. They tax the DRIVER on their tips when they file their income tax return.
This was also causing a problem in carryout for restaurants because most of our orders especially during covid were just doordash and Uber eats orders and at that time we didn’t have such a big staff so I’d had a negative impact on our tips for sure. Thank god they’ve started something where we start getting a few cents per order, it’s not a lot but it all adds up! I pray people start having compassion when it comes to tipping. It’s truly how alot of people make most of their living
Just one of the many reasons I will be going to get my own food if I wish to eat from outside the house
This is why other countries don’t even have gratuity. People are just grateful. And compensated properly. People think it’s cute to be stingy and rude in the US.
Well apparently English Restaurants have started doing it. I went to a sit sound Fish and chips Restaurant in Whitby in Yorkshire and they've started adding a £1.50 automatic tip added to your bill..
I don't mind an automatic charge. That's fine. But when customers decide what the tip is then that's BS. Your hiding the real price. And you are blacking the customer for decent service.
Tip is for excellent service not default work. Why are they there if not to write down my order and bring my food. They nod and smile and pretend to be friendly. Then get mad at me cause they can't pay rent with their low paycheck? Um who is supposed to pay you me or your boss?
@@misslanapaulfordat least in the part of England I’m living in I haven’t seen that I mean there is probably a service charge but that’s it
Hun it’s not stingy a $15 chipotle burrito delivered with fees can be $25 easy. On top of that add tip. Paying 40-100% up charge and expecting to pay more on top of it is the issue. The corporation not paying a fair portion to the workers that make it run is the issue. Quit blaming customers for crappy employee structures. Uber got paid big time and pays poverty fees to the drivers. Place your anger towards the corporations. Stop supporting businesses that treat workers like this.
@@kylas1902 they get taxed for tips tho so ... its an assh*le not to give them