You have to turn off AF (auto focus), go to manual focus and swipe it all the way to unlimited that way it's not trying to focus constantly at every single object. You'll see a much sharper and cleaner picture 👍👍
@@saitamatatima8239 kook 😂👍 I don't really use my phone and add on's for moon and astrophotography. I use my Nikon D3200 and my Nikon P1000 to be honest.
I don't think anyone here understands how optics work. 3600x is impossible with the atmosphere in the way what you were seeing was 136x zoom. It adds not multiplies
An important problem that I noticed in these tests is the low quality of the optics of the lens tested on the smartphone, it is clearly seen how it distorts the colors and the blue halo around the image when increasing the zoom, I usually do precision shooting practices and optics play a vital role, the difference between a $300 rifle scope and a higher end one of 3 or 4 times the value is very noticeable
I think the problem with the moon shots is that you are filming with the telescope nearly horizontal , so the light travels through a lot of atmosphere hence a lot of distortion . Try filming when the moon is overhead in a location away from city ligh polution. This telescope is really for viewing sunbathers on a beach , that would make a better UA-cam.
I use this Lense for a lot of photography here on earth. The bokeh it produces is beautifully swirled (I enjoy it even if it's not indicative of a good lens) and immediately shocks everyone, photographers included in the image quality. It is very extreme for portraits and urban Phtography, but it still produces a very fascinating result. There is a decent amount of basic correction needed to adjust lens distortion and overall image quality, but at reasonable distances the image stays fairly sharp and produces stunning shots! I also use a different tripod and a really convoluted setup with a magic arm I had laying around. It holds the phone in line with the lens on the tripod off of the tripod so that any movements of the lens transfer to the phone and vice versa. This helps stabilize things a lot better but does create a super bulky environment where that tripod should probably be dedicated to 36x zoom photography.
You start out by saying that the first tripod is impractical, then you immediately get shown why it isn't, when you try to zoom. The reason why the tripod is so static is to avoid the wiggle. Also at that shot of Mars your ISO is set to 1250 when it probably counts have been set to 200
@@ljptech I've tried taking long exposure images with no zoom of the night sky and that is when I realized that a static tripod is the only way to go for taking pictures with your phone of the sky. Also that shot of Mars you should probably have lowered the ISO to 200 or 400 and not have it set so high.
Essentially the problem is the capabilities of the lens. If I were you I would use the biggest arpeture lens. The image stabilisation is also lens dependant. Space zoom is a gimmick. So say you used the main lens and 1.5x digital zoom along with the x36 optical zoom. It will give you 54x equivalent (1296mm) at 24mm although crop factor should also be taken into account. The only problem then is stability . Perhaps a delay between the shutter releasing could fix it. Or a remote Bluetooth trigger. In reality you need a proper telescopic lens for usable results not going on social media. I think Samsung and other companies are having a laugh at people's expense. Being as samsung sensors are currently smaller than type 1 from Sony, their light capture and lens capabilities are still limited. If you used a telescope or specialist adapter then you could do more than photograph the moon. I saw these apexel units on amazon before. I did consider it then I read the results are hit or miss. P.s. I did manage a moon shot handheld although it was very tricky with my s21 ultra.
You need to increase shutter speed when then the object is too bright (second to bottom on the pro mode) it also reduces motion blur increasing the chance of a clear image.
The reason the zoom is crap is because its only digital zoom, which means that its no different than zooming in on an image in an image editor and cropping the area and enlarging it. In other words, the 100X zoom is a marketing scam for gullible consumers who don't know the difference between optical zoom and digital zoom. To get a sharp 100X zoom, you would need a minimum 50mm lens. Samsung and other phone manufacturers are wrong for confusing people only for them to end up being disappointed. Another thing, because you were using digital zoom, you were not magnifying at 360X, you were magnifying at most, the 36X + the default phone optical zoom, which i believe is 4X if its activated which it only activates under certain circumstances, so that would be 40X, above this was digital zoom (image cropping, same as in any image editor). To see mars, you need a 70mm (lens) refractor minimum as a ball and maybe some surface detail under good atmospheric conditions and high true optical zoom, not the marketing trash claims phone manufacturers have been fooling people with.
Thanks for explaining....was in confusion to buy compact gears easy to travel yet non complicated and simple to maintain.... confuse between 20x60 82mm spotting scope n apexel 60x as it's easy to carry....thnx
Every image base it's sharpness on 2 main aspects: system aperture, and sensor pixel density. In other words: optical resolution, and digital resolution. You can have a lot of optical resolution, but a low resolution sensor (big pixels) which won't be a good match. And viceversa, a high resolution sensor (small pixels) won't be a good match for a low optical resolution system (small lens). Every lens or telescope has an optical resolution limit based on its aperture size, which will work very good with certain sensors. Quality may also reside on the lens components. I see it's not an apochromatic corrected lens, that's why you see a blue halo around the moon.
So the think is, that lens is just a trick, only think matters is how far can your smartphone or camera zoom itself right? Soon Samsung Galaxy S24 with 150x zoom & Xiaomi with 200x zoom? But There is Nikon P with 1000x zoom, what Sony got there? I hope this year can bring something special in terms of zooming.
I like zoom, this lens was something I would like to try too but when see the quality I think no, So thanks for sharing. I use my P1000 camera instead to do superzoom 😀👍
Dude, if you're so into the moon, just get a proper beginner telescope you will be shocked at the power and you can also attach your phone to most of them.
Vi o vídeo. Uma observação aqui: pode ser ultra, wide, mega, blaster... Não importa as colocações, um celular sempre será um celular. E uma câmera fotográfica semi profissional e profissional será sempre uma câmera. Simples assim 😉
Why not spin your phone 180° so that your phone is "sitting" into the clip rather than "hanging" from the clip.... Do you think getting higher x zoom than 36 would come with better results from using lower zoom of the Samsung lens ?
After using Apexel on this video, I don't think I will get another one for the quality of the lens...or maybe I am wrong. I will definitely have a look though. Thanks
@@ljptech cool, no problem. I thought the moon shots weren't to bad for a cheap clip on lens. It's not going to be the same quality as a real DSLR zoom lens.
Wait. 10x zoom with a 36 zoom lens is acceptable??? Can you show another phone that can take a picture of the moon anywhere NEAR that good without that 36x lens??????? Cuz id buy it in a heart beat. I think the word you were looking for was extraordinary for a smartphone camera, with a lens attachment.
Why didn't you try with the manual focus in pro settings with the zoom lens, because you have never touched it while taking the moon shot. I guess you might wanna try that too to get a fine tune of the object. Anyway, many thanks for the video, i was planning to get one of these for a moon shot.
from what i can see, from 3:15 onwards, you did not set the full resolution or maybe u cant, but on the left side of the screen (Full)....that is to fill the screen, which means it is cropped, if u r using the TELEphoto, that is 48Mp in 4:3 aspect ratio (GSM arena), but when u r in Full screen lime that, i think u r below 12 mp, maybe; something like 8 Mp. My ideea is to stay in 48Mp, 4:3 aspect ratio and then use the 36x telescope !!!
Thank you for this! I was looking to see the most powerful cellphone lens an the most powerful camera phone. Open the window, its nasty and throwing the clarity and contrast off bad.
I'm concerned about how this lense are clip in the back and front that put pressure on the screen.. why not make it like the tripod clip so the presure is on the edge of the phone instead of the screen
A canon or Sony compact camera with 40 x optical zoom and costing around £100 would give you a far more defined sharp image of the moon & its surface....
Why people think that they can achieve anywhere near an acceptable image with one of these lenses is beyond me. The chromatic aberration is appalling and the image is cloudy and coloured.
You have to turn off AF (auto focus), go to manual focus and swipe it all the way to unlimited that way it's not trying to focus constantly at every single object. You'll see a much sharper and cleaner picture 👍👍
Thanks
@@ljptech no problem, you're welcome, I learned that too a long time ago from someone else 👍
@@Shadowking81 i figured it out while fooling around in pro mode😅
@@saitamatatima8239 kook 😂👍 I don't really use my phone and add on's for moon and astrophotography. I use my Nikon D3200 and my Nikon P1000 to be honest.
@@saitamatatima8239 pro mode confused me so much 😆
I don't think anyone here understands how optics work. 3600x is impossible with the atmosphere in the way what you were seeing was 136x zoom. It adds not multiplies
Thanks for your input on this
@@ljptech no problem friend
also the fact that this guy could've used some mouse or other method to use the camera app, constant touching is shaking that setup alot .
Thanks expert
@@AemondTomahawk how? Please explain
An important problem that I noticed in these tests is the low quality of the optics of the lens tested on the smartphone, it is clearly seen how it distorts the colors and the blue halo around the image when increasing the zoom, I usually do precision shooting practices and optics play a vital role, the difference between a $300 rifle scope and a higher end one of 3 or 4 times the value is very noticeable
Thanks for your input on this 👍
Yeah the chromatic aberration is a bit too much
Okay
Wow how your killing skill transferred to the tech industry
I think the problem with the moon shots is that you are filming with the telescope nearly horizontal , so the light travels through a lot of atmosphere hence a lot of distortion . Try filming when the moon is overhead in a location away from city ligh polution. This telescope is really for viewing sunbathers on a beach , that would make a better UA-cam.
Thank you for your input on this 👍
"sunbathers on a beach"
I think you mean nudists at the beach
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The channel with such context will not last long
I use this Lense for a lot of photography here on earth. The bokeh it produces is beautifully swirled (I enjoy it even if it's not indicative of a good lens) and immediately shocks everyone, photographers included in the image quality. It is very extreme for portraits and urban Phtography, but it still produces a very fascinating result. There is a decent amount of basic correction needed to adjust lens distortion and overall image quality, but at reasonable distances the image stays fairly sharp and produces stunning shots! I also use a different tripod and a really convoluted setup with a magic arm I had laying around. It holds the phone in line with the lens on the tripod off of the tripod so that any movements of the lens transfer to the phone and vice versa. This helps stabilize things a lot better but does create a super bulky environment where that tripod should probably be dedicated to 36x zoom photography.
Thanks for your input on this
I believe you could have done a better job tweaking a bit more with the pro mode. You know iso settings, focus, and so forth.
he says ya i know i dont know what im doing,,ur response ya u could do better,,nice job exlax
I really don't care
You start out by saying that the first tripod is impractical, then you immediately get shown why it isn't, when you try to zoom. The reason why the tripod is so static is to avoid the wiggle. Also at that shot of Mars your ISO is set to 1250 when it probably counts have been set to 200
Interesting analogy 🤔
@@ljptech I've tried taking long exposure images with no zoom of the night sky and that is when I realized that a static tripod is the only way to go for taking pictures with your phone of the sky. Also that shot of Mars you should probably have lowered the ISO to 200 or 400 and not have it set so high.
Did you realised the simple click of the movement for this given tripod can move the position focusing on mars all the way to Jupiter? 🤔
@@ljptechNOOOOOOO!!!!! I thought it went over to Saturn instead. Maybe it pingpongs between all the planets?
This thing is better as real telescope, amazing and interesting!
Thanks … this helps me….
Sticking to DSLR or mirror less camera for moon photography for way much better quality
Essentially the problem is the capabilities of the lens. If I were you I would use the biggest arpeture lens. The image stabilisation is also lens dependant. Space zoom is a gimmick. So say you used the main lens and 1.5x digital zoom along with the x36 optical zoom. It will give you 54x equivalent (1296mm) at 24mm although crop factor should also be taken into account.
The only problem then is stability . Perhaps a delay between the shutter releasing could fix it. Or a remote Bluetooth trigger.
In reality you need a proper telescopic lens for usable results not going on social media. I think Samsung and other companies are having a laugh at people's expense.
Being as samsung sensors are currently smaller than type 1 from Sony, their light capture and lens capabilities are still limited.
If you used a telescope or specialist adapter then you could do more than photograph the moon. I saw these apexel units on amazon before. I did consider it then I read the results are hit or miss.
P.s. I did manage a moon shot handheld although it was very tricky with my s21 ultra.
Thanks for your input on this 👍
Could I use this for recording planes ✈️ at cruise altitude?
There is a 60X zoom lenz from Apexel, 4x60=240x optical zoom (way more clear). And try it with Note 20 Ultra (better camera) (5x60=300x optic zoom)
Thanks for letting me know
@@ljptech And if u can borrow Huawei P40 pro+ cuz it has 10x optical (10x60=600x just imagine how much better zoom u have comparition to S20 ultra )
It could be better....thanks
Note 20 ultra has the exact same camera as the s20 ultra.
Yes
Thanks for the video. At least we now know what to expect.
Exactly
Oh c'mon man, i know that you can afford P1000 .
It's for those who can't
I can afford multiple P1000, I can't find one...They are more rare than a Xbox series x
Very interesting indeed
I used 12x zoom with 10x zoom on my note 9 and it was quite similar with ur clearest zoom, i used the pro mode
Thanks for your input on this 👍
@@ljptech how about s23 ultra with this telescope?? How would the moon look?
I almost brought it for this reason but maybe next year, sorry
You need to increase shutter speed when then the object is too bright (second to bottom on the pro mode) it also reduces motion blur increasing the chance of a clear image.
Thanks
@@ljptech thanks your a***ss, re-do the video
You are welcome 😊
This video very useful for me, btw which case you use for your phone ?
Samsung official?
Good morning...congratulations for the excellent work.I have a question: what is the smallest magnification of this lens?Thank you
Thanks, it should be available on amazon
Wish that this review would have been more real world application vs trying to do something that it wasn't really designed for.
What more can you expect than this?
The reason the zoom is crap is because its only digital zoom, which means that its no different than zooming in on an image in an image editor and cropping the area and enlarging it. In other words, the 100X zoom is a marketing scam for gullible consumers who don't know the difference between optical zoom and digital zoom.
To get a sharp 100X zoom, you would need a minimum 50mm lens. Samsung and other phone manufacturers are wrong for confusing people only for them to end up being disappointed.
Another thing, because you were using digital zoom, you were not magnifying at 360X, you were magnifying at most, the 36X + the default phone optical zoom, which i believe is 4X if its activated which it only activates under certain circumstances, so that would be 40X, above this was digital zoom (image cropping, same as in any image editor).
To see mars, you need a 70mm (lens) refractor minimum as a ball and maybe some surface detail under good atmospheric conditions and high true optical zoom, not the marketing trash claims phone manufacturers have been fooling people with.
Thanks for your comment
Thanks! I'm in the market for a camera and this write up has shed light on what I've already suspected. I think I'll stick to looking for DSLRs
Damn dude, I think I could ask you thousands of questions about cameras(telescopes) and space
Thanks for explaining....was in confusion to buy compact gears easy to travel yet non complicated and simple to maintain.... confuse between 20x60 82mm spotting scope n apexel 60x as it's easy to carry....thnx
Every image base it's sharpness on 2 main aspects: system aperture, and sensor pixel density.
In other words: optical resolution, and digital resolution.
You can have a lot of optical resolution, but a low resolution sensor (big pixels) which won't be a good match. And viceversa, a high resolution sensor (small pixels) won't be a good match for a low optical resolution system (small lens).
Every lens or telescope has an optical resolution limit based on its aperture size, which will work very good with certain sensors.
Quality may also reside on the lens components. I see it's not an apochromatic corrected lens, that's why you see a blue halo around the moon.
Thanks for your input on this 👍
seriously! you must use gimbal instead tripod for better results because bigger zoom needs gimbal stability.
Thanks, that is a very good suggestion indeed!
Ty so much,that exactly what I try to find!❤❤❤
Great to hear
So the think is, that lens is just a trick, only think matters is how far can your smartphone or camera zoom itself right? Soon Samsung Galaxy S24 with 150x zoom & Xiaomi with 200x zoom?
But There is Nikon P with 1000x zoom, what Sony got there? I hope this year can bring something special in terms of zooming.
Thank you for your input on this 👍
Hi, can we use this lens for product videography, if the object is close to lens? Or it has to be at a great distance only?
It seems to be designed for great distance only
I have this lens and cobined with my oneplus11 its amazing
Cool!
I read the product description has 36x accounting for 2x from a phone camera... meaning that the actual optics you buy only provide 18x zoom...
Okay
ooo good/thanks
been wondering about this
Welcome
I like zoom, this lens was something I would like to try too but when see the quality I think no, So thanks for sharing. I use my P1000 camera instead to do superzoom 😀👍
That is a great camera!
When the video started, I thought for a sec that I am listening to a headphone test.....Man I've been watching too many dankpods vids
Lol
The moon did glow so blue, is it so radioactive?
I don't think so
I think it is all down to camera settings
@@ljptech that's called chromatic aberration, which is caused by very simple and straightforward optics organization within the lens
That makes sense. Thank you
@@allenginesrunning8820 i like it when you talk dirty 😄
Good review. I am hoping to buy a telephone lens for my S20 Ultra but wasn't sure whether this one will fit. Now I know it will. Thanks
Thanks for your comment
Thank you for this review, the astronomy videos of the planet's is what I wanted too see.
Hope it kinda showed you what you wanted
Yes thanks! I'm shopping around right now to see what other scopes that's out on the market. Thanks again!
All the best
Me too. I wanted to try this one from Amazon. Let me know if you find anything to view the planets.
All the best
Could you try the known dimensions and distances routine thanks.
I don't have this phone anymore nor the lens, sorry
Dude, if you're so into the moon, just get a proper beginner telescope you will be shocked at the power and you can also attach your phone to most of them.
Thanks
I have a Note 10. What do yall recommend for zoom
There are some experts here who criticise my method on this video so perhaps ask them via comment?
Vi o vídeo. Uma observação aqui: pode ser ultra, wide, mega, blaster... Não importa as colocações, um celular sempre será um celular. E uma câmera fotográfica semi profissional e profissional será sempre uma câmera.
Simples assim 😉
Thanks for your input on this
Why not spin your phone 180° so that your phone is "sitting" into the clip rather than "hanging" from the clip.... Do you think getting higher x zoom than 36 would come with better results from using lower zoom of the Samsung lens ?
I have absolutely no idea
Nys product
Okay
Any reason you were using full?
Otherwise someone would have asked me to
How well do you think this will work for PI work?
What is PI work?
nice watch
Thanks
This is because Samsung can't capture that far. They have applied AI for the moon shot.
True
Why not try using the ED glass tekescope. Maybe the results will be better
Maybe, thanks
Try it with the 60x lens. The S20 Ultra has 10x optical zoom, so it should give you 600x, you might be able to see Mars.
Which 60x lens do you recommend?
@@ljptech I saw an Apexel 60x lens on Amazon, maybe consider testing that one.
After using Apexel on this video, I don't think I will get another one for the quality of the lens...or maybe I am wrong. I will definitely have a look though. Thanks
@@ljptech cool, no problem. I thought the moon shots weren't to bad for a cheap clip on lens. It's not going to be the same quality as a real DSLR zoom lens.
Yup, that's exactly what I learned :(
Hello where did you buy the lense?
Amazon
Do you think this also work in Iphone 13?
Should do
Wait. 10x zoom with a 36 zoom lens is acceptable??? Can you show another phone that can take a picture of the moon anywhere NEAR that good without that 36x lens??????? Cuz id buy it in a heart beat. I think the word you were looking for was extraordinary for a smartphone camera, with a lens attachment.
This lens is not as sharp as I expected
@@ljptech hmm, through a window? i wonder why 🤔
I've s21ultra
It has 100x
If I use this lense will it be 3600x....I mean is it really way better than phone's original 100x????
Apple is useless
you use iso to much hight, try iso 50, f1.8 1/125 s (you have to adjust the time, the image must be clear and not too brigh)
Thanks
Why didn't you try with the manual focus in pro settings with the zoom lens, because you have never touched it while taking the moon shot. I guess you might wanna try that too to get a fine tune of the object.
Anyway, many thanks for the video, i was planning to get one of these for a moon shot.
Thanks for your input on this 👍
@@ljptech Really wish to see another test with that, if possible. Thank you..
Gave it to someone...:(
My question how can l buy this beautiful lens because l have interest on it?
Amazon
incredible ✌️
Thanks
This is what people should buy for Alien sites.
Needs to be better
bros got the dank pods mix tape
Okay
just get a spotting scope
It's a product review focusing the actual usage of the product
Tq for uploading
Thanks
from what i can see, from 3:15 onwards, you did not set the full resolution or maybe u cant, but on the left side of the screen (Full)....that is to fill the screen, which means it is cropped, if u r using the TELEphoto, that is 48Mp in 4:3 aspect ratio (GSM arena), but when u r in Full screen lime that, i think u r below 12 mp, maybe; something like 8 Mp. My ideea is to stay in 48Mp, 4:3 aspect ratio and then use the 36x telescope !!!
Thanks for your input on this 👍
What does the actual raw image look like without the stupid phone messing with it?
Bad
sorry I know I am a bit late to the party ... just wondering if you tried focusing the Apexel lenses or if that didn't make any difference?
Not really
does it made up of steel?
A mixture
Does the clip scratch the screen
not when I tried
Great review!
Thanks
So wat your saying is, don't buy it.... Great job nakama friend Shalom 🕎
Who's nakama?
@@ljptech I think he means the japanese word for friend 🤷♂️
Okay
Yeah, you're being stupid, not greedy. It's a physical lens with a software zoom. Zooming beyond 10% is just zooming in on pixels.
Thanks
Thank you for this!
I was looking to see the most powerful cellphone lens an the most powerful camera phone.
Open the window, its nasty and throwing the clarity and contrast off bad.
Thanks
Is the note 9 a good idea with this
Universal
My man exhausted himself just saying the name of the phone. What are you doing samsung? Naming conventions aren't short and precise enough...
Good point
Is it suitable for poco X2?
Universal mount
Brother, how much is the price of the lens?
Isn't there a link on the description?
@@ljptech Only 37£??? So cheap
I guess
Bro, how much price this device.
Please check on Amazon
I'm concerned about how this lense are clip in the back and front that put pressure on the screen.. why not make it like the tripod clip so the presure is on the edge of the phone instead of the screen
True
Very good I loved it.
Thanks
@@ljptech thanks you my good friend
Hello sir,,
Does it work in Mi 10 t pro...🤔
Don't know the phone, sorry
I was like. What the fuck is this. In 10x plus 36x lense.
Then switched from 240p to 480p, and I was shocked, obviously.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well done
Price?
Check on Amazon
It's £60 ,it's great for the money...it is not the Hubble space telescope.
Exactly
Is that the music that Dankpods uses for the headphones reviews
Thanks!
Hi , I use a canon eos rebel t2i and I want to ask which zoom lense will be best to buy for the camera , because my recent zoom lense stops at 75mm
I see
👍
So these should work with s21 ultra theres 2 telephoto lenses just wondering if it would be a waste ?
I would hope it be slightly improved? Don't know...I don't have S21 Ultra
You should have lower the exposure in pro mode when shooting the mars
Okay
@@ljptech can I have one of those😅nahh just kidding
Get it from Amazon
@@ljptech how much? I mean dang I'm just a kid who can't afford🥲
Never mind I'll pass
can i put it on a xiaomi redmi note 9 phone?
It is known to be universal
Please price
Check on Amazon
Thank You
You are welcome
Does it work on Samsung A51???
It's a universal mount
Does this work with Xiaomi Mi 10T Pro 5G?
Universal
Will thid worj to note 20 ultra response would appreciate it.
Universal
thanks man
Welcome
A canon or Sony compact camera with 40 x optical zoom and costing around £100 would give you a far more defined sharp image of the moon & its surface....
Thanks for your input on this 👍
What kind of Sony compact exactly please ?
@@McSiiSKO Sony DSC HX90 ís a compact super zoom camera I would recommend.
Thanks for the great information
@@Paul.in.Ireland So essentially DSLR's are still the better option?
That looks quite like those nikon cameras that go to 63x- 120x. But yeah you cant just stack lenses and call it 360x or something
I did try to see how it appears on 360x so I believe such claim is valid for this cideo
Bangladesh ei lencetar price koto ektu bolen please
Please check on Amazon
This lens has terrible chromatic abberation.if your going to buy this for astrophotography then your better of with a telescope
Thanks for your input on this 👍
If you use that on Jupiter you'll see its Galilean moons.
Thanks
Why people think that they can achieve anywhere near an acceptable image with one of these lenses is beyond me. The chromatic aberration is appalling and the image is cloudy and coloured.
Thanks for your input on this 👍
He appears to be shooting through a dirty window too
Thanks for pointing this out
Originally samsung note 20 ultra Can reach the moon just with his ×50 zoom I don't see what this telescope can do for ta
Thanks for your input on this 👍
Love the editing in this video but i feel like motion tracking was used a bit too much which made it not as interesting as others
Sorry!
Is aviable for s21 ultra this external lens?
Isn't this video self-explanatory? 😉
Ei lence ki poco m2 te use kora jabe
Yes
Can these lens use in all phones?
Universal
@@ljptech sry..universal?
Yes, universal
@@ljptech what universal?
For mounting