Darren Bent says Vinicius Jr has the right to refuse to play after suffering racist abuse again
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2023
- Real Madrid forward Vinicius Jr was the victim of racist abuse once again as Real Madrid faced Valencia at The Mestalla, something Darren Bent believes needs to be punished severely!
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KLOP is such a great coach ! ❤ Such a coherent and decent human being !
Is this sarcasm? 😂, I mean I'll give you the first part
Great manager. Hypocrite though and a whiney excuse maker too. He needs to cut that out
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He’s right, these scumbags won’t act until you hurt their pockets. Then watch them do a 180 and immediately make swift decisions.
I love Darren Bent’s way of thinking. He relies on stats and nuances to form an opinion. When he says it won’t stop until it makes financial sense, he is obsoletely right. Until the pockets of those rich fat scums at the top of la liga and Fifa are hit, nothing will change. Those in charge at the top do not take racism seriously because to them, it’s “normal”.
I also think more people need to know who Tebas really is, he is a supporter of a far-right party, the Vox party, the leader of whom just last year called for a Reconquista, aka, the expelling of muslims from Spain. When the president is a supporter of that party, change in Spain is hard to foresee.
He cried, after a while he started crying and that’s when ancelotti called him over to talk to him and check on him, it was so depressing.
La Liga president Javier Tebas used to be a member of a far right fascist political party. He recently called Spains Conservative Party “left wing”. Tebas has openly said he now supports far right political part, VOX.
Does it now make sense?!
People say Vini provokes but what happened vs Valencia has been happening since he was at Castilla. Goalie went to him to attack him, RM players defended Vini but another Valancia player holds him in a chokehold from the back, Vini finally gets out & swings his arm to get away or to defend himself after being choked for 10sec. He gets a red.
Since Castilla, he got fouled w/no intent on the ball & Vini puts his hand up at the ref asking for foul & maybe a card... while doing that, the guy that fouled him goes on to bite his head while ref 2meter away stares. That guy didn't get a yellow, never mind a red but Vini got a yellow for complaining. This has happened all of his career, that's why he's emotional & aggressive.
Vinnie is such an innocent boy!
WOW i don't even know what to say
No messing about , no 3 strikes and your out , walk off ,we are done we are not coming back end of story.... Valencia players were urging V Junior to ignore it all as it happens most weeks at their stadium, for them it is a normal occurrence.
Dance celebrations after a goal, being animated etc are only a problem when Players of colour are doing it. No one had an issue with Peter crouch doing the robot dance when he scored for England and Tottenham. Everybody including myself enjoyed it. I'm the opposing fans found it "provocative" but everyone just got on with it.
Vini could by right rip up his Madrid contract and walk. He’s protected from any sort of abuse in his workplace under EU law. The authorities can’t and won’t provide him with a working environment free from racial abuse so he could just leave and there’s not much Real or La Liga can do about it. I doubt it’ll happen but Real should absolutely walk off at the next incident, straight onto the bus and home
This is interesting because this is what John Barnes was trying to explain to Simon Jordan in their interview when he said there could never be a black Simon Jordan. I'm using Vine jr as an example to speak about someone who is at the top of their game and perhaps a bit cheeky but when Simon does it its found to be top level entertainment but when Vini does it hes winding people up and deserves racial abuse because of it...
M8 this same station had pundits moaning that Brazil players dancing was too much disrespect but its a cultural thing n I don't sly digs on here
@@Blucifah what's your point?
Barnes’ point about boris was ridiculous tbf, the current pm is a minority as are several members of the cabinet
@@AlexLee360 there is a lot of layers of nuance in your response but as someone of color I'm honestly starting to feel like the truth is until you've walked in the shoes of someone who experiences institutionalized racism then maybe it just is really hard to fathom? because no way people as smart as Simon Jordan or even the people who watch Talksport can witness scenario after scenario of racism play out and still not understand the point John Barnes makes. For me it's very obvious, like not worth even arguing about obvious.
@@Blucifah the dancing was to much for a lot of people.
They don't do no harm by it, but it's only cultural when they are winning, if getting beat 4-0 and they score then they don't dance, why is that?
Also just because something is cultural it doesn't make it right or ok.
I noticed no black referees in prem league for the longest time...am i mistaken or missing something here....no linesmen too🤔
Come to England Vinny, come play for Citehad!!
Why isn't the Rich and Powerful RM organization protecting VINI. I find it puzzling that the president of RM has not come out threatening La Liga. Vini has endured vicious tackles and racial taunts by players and fans in La liga for the past 2 yrs. I am also shocked the other black players on RM and Valencia did not walk off the pitch during the game. If this continues I think VINI and every talented black player should play in England, France, or Germany only and avoid Spain and Italy.
Florentino Perez sued LaLiga and the government did nothing
There not black so they don’t care they don’t understand unfortunately they only care about the money it’s just business
He should leave spain
This a age old issue and the player's will never take a collective stand, it would take a courage that unfortunately football does not possess, pity if one team did, it would be over in a blink of an eye
So true as much as I feel sorry for these players... them staying out there and getting abused is not on. Vini and all the boys should say we are not having this and walk off together leave them all out there having wasted their time and money
The biggest problem is we want to keep treating these cases of racism like a football problem but it isn't. It's a societal problem and until it's fixed at a macro level racism won't stop in football cos it's not particular to football. It's muppets who think that they can say vile stuff and get away with it and a few happen to be football fans.
& to think FIFA chose Qatar to hold a World Cup, a country that treats all non-nationals & in particularly migrant workers as third class individuals in somewhat near-apartheid conditions...didn't see any migrant workers allowed by the Qatari organisers to attend any World Cup games...Racism is everywhere within football at every level, certain nationalities will always find issues with person(s) from other nationalaties...
@@_Ben4810 they chose Russia as host the World Cup before that and England themselves hosting the euros were no saints either. Unfortunately it is a society problem in nearly every country you can think of. Some countries just hide it better than others.
I'm Italian and the amount of racism I've seen in Italian football is absolutely awful. The videos of what happened in Valencia is absolutely unreal, while I've seen racism in italian football, it hasn't been anywhere near the same degree. Half the stadium should have lifetime bans.
I’m a barca fan and I have to listen to the league president’s BS every single week. So for anyone who is familiar with Tebas, then none of this behaviour should be a surprise. He’s a disgrace, not only to football and the Spanish league itself, but to the world in general. We need him gone.
Why would the Valencia players walk out when they feel exactly like the fans in the stadium? Even the Spanish players in the Real team feel the same, the only difference is that they're not chanting the racial abuse.
This comment is underrated..
O mundo com Vini Jr ❤🇧🇷
Looking at the comments here, Benty is right, the UK need to fix up their own house
The way the UK public and English media have conducted themselves with regards to Meghan and Harry says it all..
And just as I wrote the below, Benty stoke my thunder!!!
It won't happen because soon it starts affecting players' pockets they will cave immediately, especially with how much players are paid nowadays you can't have it both ways because ex-players say that they should be paid even more which is crazy so because of that the players on mass showing unity by not playing it will never happen
@CarlosAK47 can you explain that better, please? I will take a guess as to what I think you meant.
That wasn't the topic of discussion Benty and Andy were suggesting players should show unity by boycotting games and that's why I commented about it won't happen if it meant affecting player wages and because of how much players get paid in today's game and that is the vicious circle
BOYCOTTS WORK! AMERICAN CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT, THE BRISTOL BUS BOYCOTT, BOTH HIT THE RACISTS IN THE POCKETS! Every single world class black player should BOYCOTT SPAIN WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSFERS THERE! Also, EVERY SINGLE BLACK WORLD CLASS PLAYER ALREADY IN SPAIN, SHOULD NOW REFUSE TO PLAY AND DEMAND TRANSFERS OUT OF THAT BACKWARD COUNTRY!
He should leave spain, im definitely never going there again. I went to Barcelona and the only other black people i saw were selling sunglasses on the beach. I couldn’t believe it, and nor could my girlfriend. At least in England we have a chance, we might not always get the top job but we have an inch of a chance. Vini jnr has the balls to stick up for himself, I respect it. Next game if the fans do that they are walking off, i can only imagine the tension in the dressing room.
Spanish colonize only two countries in Africa . The uk and France colonize most of the continent that one of the reason because you don't see many blacks there. Mostly are mixed South American
@@glo8778 but why is a young man, who is great at what he does by the way. Subjected to such abuse every away game. Its clear the blacks aren’t wanted there, we dance to much and are too provocative. However thats who we are, theres no excuse for what this young man is going through.
Yeah i was in Barcelona for a friends stag do we were around 20 blacks and Asians and couple of white guys strong. But we were spending the most money in the restaurants and bars. Once they hear an English accent Spanish people seem to treat you differently. Doesn’t make it right but that was my experience.
Yeah they should walk off. Brilliant idea. They took the 3 points irl!
Lennon got the same in Scotland, blamed as he brings it on himself excuses. He’s not Black just a Irish Catholic!
Lennon is a bit of a pr*ck too. My mate was doing some renovations work for him one time years ago and he said he was an ignorant btard.
Bent never took a stand in his own career now asking others to stop playing
Bread buttered comes to mind lol
He should leave Real and La Liga, I wouldn’t mind him at Man United
You reap what you sow.
Premier league preaching laliga 🙏🙏🙏
Racism is not owhk and not understandable ,why is fifa not triggering a clause that says people caught doing that should be banned for life from the sport.
Come to the prem Vini Jnr the fans will love you
I was at the Tottenham vs Brighton game earlier this season and Mitoma was being called a "little Ch*nk* by some Spurs fans. What makes you think that Vinicius Jr won't be getting the same?
@@dirtyace1668 wishful thinking I guess mate, it’s fucking gross no excuses for it
Come to our league. We don’t behave like that here. We like a pantomime baddie if that’s what he is. I don’t believe it myself. It’s disgusting and totally unacceptable.
Don't punish the innocent, the majority of the spanish media are rightly calling it out
They should strip them of all 14 UCL cups...
I don't think Valencia have ever won the UCL.
@@cbarclay99 😂😂
@@cbarclay99 Madrid statements that followed
They are currently too calm
@@cbarclay99 Valencia is stupid
Mario ballettelli once say in his interview that black fb players especially africans must have there own premier league in theyr coyntry and stop going overseas to play for other countrys club because racism is ar large and no one is doing norhing about it, the guy shed his tears like never before n thats nit right for any foitball team to have racis supporters nor players every8ne should be.van team playwrs fanz everyone
Thats Tribalism for you.
Madrid should be embarrassed that they didn't walk off
Lol I play non league n got called a black c%&t few weeks ago n I'm mixed race 🤷🏾♂️ also these guys have sponsorships that don't care if they a abused
RM team should have walked off as one, awful and sickening
Boo hoo hoo. Victimhood mentality.
always the victim despite the stats
Enough is enough he should stop playing
The whole team should stop playing. It cannot be just the victim who has to lose the opportunity to do what he loves
Daycint bah
Come the England Vini ❤️❤️❤️
❤❤🙏
Ode to Vini
The racists ugly comments cannot obscure
Your beauty on the field
Their malice and hatred of
Your exquisite skills
Their vile contempt of civilised behaviour
Your proud and courageous stand
Their feeble excuses to deflect blame and
Their ignorance
Your anger and passion reveals your sense of injustice
In the shadows
Their shameless, vile and cowardly acts
In the light
Your brave and noble resistance
Their darkness will be illuminated by your brilliance.
Sounds like some lines from ChatGPT🤔
@@mirandaal4541 Chat gpt is good, but not that good.
Sorry this Journalist is Brazilian, he has been on a journey this year to point out the racism that Vini jr was under in spain, he was trying to bring the discussion to England, because week before this interview the spain media blamed Vini Jr for his abuse, and he asked this to bring the discussion out of spain to protect Vini jr, because days before La liga says this was ok in futball
The black players in La Liga need to decide if that is the best league for them to play their football.
Wow this is Spanish, one of the major EU nations. Seems more like 80s apartheid Africa
La Liga's TRASH.
As a black person who has dealt with racism I think there is a lot of false reporting here. Of course I condemn the racism but report it correctly. The whole stadium didn't abuse Vinny. They were chanting tonto which translates to Stupid and not mono. If you will provoke people they are well within their rights to call you stupid. That being said provocation should not be reason and isn't reason to racially abuse anyone and I hope the people involved get punished. As for the talk of Valencia forfeiting the match I get the sentiment but why would they when Real players are still on the pitch. It's a disgraceful situation all round that needs sorting clearly but people should keep their heads.
Not sure you been a victim of racism. You sound like someone pretending to be a black and shift blame to Vincius .
Your part of the problem pretending racism is not that bad in Spain....it is
The strange thing about all lot of Spanish people is they are very dark looking people themselves. If they go to America and tell some of the white Americans that they are white just like them they’ll get laughed at and told to get over there with the mexicans and hispanics.
if you going to make a chant , make one that people who dont speak the language can understand 100% of the time , tonto and mono with all the noise in the stadium can easily be mistaken 1 by the other , also believe me Vini was respectfull on his reaction to those chants.
The racists (such as those who abused Vini jr) would be proud of you
Racism in Spain is a society problem and it’s much worse than the UK, as there is much less cultural diversity.
The immigration is more South American than other countries .
Whos is here 2024 AGAIN 😅Spain has problems 🤮
Mr Bent, I was attacked on the way home for being white and being in the wrong area so racism in England works both ways!!!
Certain areas are "no go zones", right?
@@chrissymc886 I found out the hard way 😂👍 4v1 but I got one of the fuckers badly 😏
@@UnvaccinatedPureBlood-es1gg nice one. I just don't get it, so fecking stupid. We are all just people trying to get on with things. Some folk don't deserve to breathe air.
People seem to forget this fact, especially black people. So glad you got one of them badly.
@@UnvaccinatedPureBlood-es1ggYour case is the exception rather than the rule. As far as football is concerned show me A CASE where black fans are racially abusing white players.
Then don't play. You won't be missed.
People like you are the problem ✊🏿
When fans are chanting abuse in the form of threats, violence, cursing relentlessly, it never rises as news 🤷
Is there evidence that he was racially abused?
Yes there is loads
I think in the stadium they were chanting (on videos) “Mono” which means monkey and making monkey noises.
Who cares. Racism will always be in football as in daily life. Most fans are not racists. If you are paid that high of a wage to play football, learn to concentrate on the game and go buy a Ferrari to smooth your hurt feelings.
Ok so by your logic there’s a price for where abuse is ok ? What about a black football fan sitting in the stands. He or she or their children aren’t getting paid millions to be abused watching a football match ?
@@HdHd-hp6qz Then we are not talking about Vinicius Jr anymore are we... Dumb hypothetical. I wished I lived in a bubble made up world like yours. Where everyone gets along. 🤦
Spanish racists are so proud of you boi😂
Darren bent should be ashamed of himself start going down the road of refusing to play where does it end simple solution arrest the abusers and prison them
but its not fixing the core issue so the stakes have to be raised
@@MyNamesJohnny14 understand where your coming from Johnny we are never going to eradicate racism completely at least if they get prison time it might make think again just saying
But that doesn’t happen you donut, hence why he is talking about extreme measures.
@@MyNamesJohnny14 They're not doing it. There's clips of 50 fans chanting monkey and only 6 fans were banned from the games. The club just doesn't care and partially think "he's probably bringing it on himself".
Disagree ignore it and carry on playing and it will go away ffs
Er ... been ignoring it for decades and it doesn't go away.
What a stupid take
That never fixes it. Ever.
Stop winding them up them ! Simple
Away players winding up the home crowd is a part of football whereas racism isn’t!!
Oh please won't somebody think of the poor dirty racists!
Jog on.
Dani Alves was racially abused and he did nothing. He literally went to take a corner and a fan threw a banana at him. No behavior justifies racism
Racists spotted
Wtf are the black valencia players thinking while this is going on.