What I find wonderful, is that 40 years ago this place was at war, and now you're there making good friends through martial arts. How things change. Vovinam (Việt Võ Đạo) is not just a martial art, it is a philosophy, and a way of life, a friend opened my mind to this.
hi antonio! this is manny in Hanoi....i just saw myself in the video when we're in the gym....keep in touch 'man......im sure you will have better videos in HCM....post also a video of your philippine stint once you're there..
@GuardianDemonX First off, yes, I found out later this particular art is not exactly vovinam but probably a mix of vovinam with the Vietnamese strain of wing chun. later, in saigon, i did regular vovinam with the blue uniforms. .
@SolverRubiks Yes, I found out later that although the guy was a master of vovinam he had two or three other styles as well, and what he showed here was a mix of several styles.
@Benbanme Thanks for clearing that up. I knew him for several months in Hanoi and trained with him, but his art didnt look like vovinam i had seen in saigon. i also know he had knowledge of a lot of different martial arts.
Sorry your video link doesnt appear here. can you send it to me in a message or just tell me the name of the video and i will find it on youtube? What is the video and why should i watch it? also do you disagree with what I have written and which clearly proves that Vietnam does "give a shit" about China today?
@jasluvtian I don't understand your point, but none of the Chinese dialects have a separate written language, except Hong Kong Cantonese which uses traditional characters and includes a large number of unique Cantonese characters. Obviously Tieuchieu and other dialects don't have a writing system.
@GuardianDemonX as for Tae Kwan Do history, true modern Tae KWan Do was invented in the mid twentieth century, but the similarities I saw were in training techniques and kicking techniques, which, it is impossible that Vovinam influenced the development of tae kwan do, because Vietnam had very little contact with Korea. There is almost no vovinam in korma, but korean tae kwan do was exported to Vietnam.
we arent talking about grammar. vietnamese grammar is unique but the vocabulary is chinese. and you absolutely know this to be true. if not, read some of the articles i have published on chinese loan words in vietnamese language
@whitelotus77 I did a magazine article about taekyon when i was in korea. it is a really strange and well documented, very, very old martial art. also syrum wrestling in korea may be one of the oldest documented martial arts anywhere.
@GuardianDemonX Vovinam is definitely a synthetic martial art, a mix of many things. It is less than a hundred years old. Tae Kwan Do was not invented in the 1970's. it is from the mid twentieth century.
Taekwndo as a name was invenmted in the 1950s but the FORMS were created in the 1970s(Taeguk forms) and the Yadansha(blackbelt forms) and taekwondo's various kicks were invented in the 1970-onwards. Example there were only side kicks,turning side kicks,,round houses and front kicks in the 1950s-60s.......so technically Taekwondo as we know it today developed post 1970s
not sure what your point is, but an american general, Stillwell was supreme commander of chinese forces in world war II. yes, china did fight in their own civil war. what is your point?
@TheNguyenboi thanks. I hope my example does not sound so awful though hahah even my purpose was only to use non Han-Viet words so he has no idea what i was talking about
@pipopipo96 The borrowed words are almost in areas such as government,politics,literature and military..even in science. If someone is giving a speech in one of these areas in vietnamese and if you know chinese, you can make out atleast half of what is the speech is about. I also notice the sentence structure is similar..the only difference is adjective comes before noun in chinese but vietnamse is the other way around. However the systematic similarities between cantonese and
actually there is only one posting by an akha organization. the man got arrested and permanently kicked out of thailand and then wrote something bad about me. beyond that you wont find anything. but what ignorant statement did i make in this video?
@hhnam1989 The history of and the linguistics of the Vietnamese language have been well studied and documented, 80% of the vocabulary is Chinese. but no, i don't understand your comment. but my knowledge of the Vietnamese language does not change the history or the fact that most of the vocabulary comes from china originally.
Look everyone, Antonio will not list his source that says Vietnamese is "80" percent Chinese. because he made that number up. It is actually 40-60% like Korean and Japanese.
@jasluvtian It is a fact, researched and published by any number of leading scholars and journals that 805 of vietnamese vocabulary is Chinese. in my own study, i would go through vocabulary lists and identify Chinese words, such as viet Nam which is a Chinese name. there are so many every day words which are Chinese. but once again, i wil ask you, did you actually study Vietnamese and Chinese, or are you just a native speaker? there is a huge difference.
Vietnamese is not a Chinese language anymore so then Turkish is Persian. Influence doesnt change the language family. Example English is a Germanic language but has over 70% Latin vocab. So Is English a Romance language? No. Also Vietnamese contrarily to common belief does not have a strong affinity to Han-Chinese genes than any other east asian group. In fact according to the largest genetic research done by National Geographics actually shows Vietnamese to have less then 12% Han-Chinese DNA. genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations-next-gen/
@TQLCVNCH actually 70 to 80 percent of vietnamese vocabulary is chinese. all one sylabale words in vietnamese are chinese. mon khmer words are multisyalbic so only the longer words are vietanese. even the name of the country viet nam is two chinese characters.
Yes everyone who has seen this video says its not really vovinam. most people think it looks like vo co truyen. but as for the blue uniform, i really dont like wearing a uniform. i live in thailand most of the time and i train in shorts and T-shirt.
the Chinese didnt fight any civil way in the 1950's(implying it was in the 1950's lmao)....It ended in 1949....The conflicts in the 1950s were against bandits and outlaws just look that up.....The KMT were already forced to Taiwan by then....you're so dumb and pretentious
Actually Mexico was part of Spain for 300 years. And that is why they speak Spanish. 60 -80% of Vietnamese language is Chinese. I am a linguist and have published numerous articles on Vietnamese language. Even the word vo co truyen is a Chinese word. Even the country name Viet Nam. Nam is the Chinese word for south because Vietnam was south china.
@pipopipo96 i know it was bad. It was intended. Anywho...i agree the vietnamese language has quite a percentage of borrowed Chinese words. Its the obvious evidence of almost 1000 years being in the same union with China. I also need to mention most of these words are cantonese base. It makes sense since north vietnam was in the ame administrative zone with QuangDong and QuangXi. I also happens to know some cantonese and i am sure of what i say about vietnamese and cantonese
@brooklynmonk1 if you know Vietnamese history which you clearly don't. you can write Vietnamese language with Chinese characters and then compare the Chinese pronunciation to the Vietnamese pronunciation of those characters.
You can write a great many of the words but you diffinately cannot how write "Vietnamese" language with standard Chinese characters as they do not use the same Grammar, it must be modified hence how Chu Nom was developed rather then adopt regular Chinese duhh
The problem of the uniform is not for you, but for them..they are with t-shirt and VOVINAM train only with vo-phuc..the uniform.. Maybe this is not Vo Co Truyen..but Vinh Xuan..that is the vietnamese wing chung, and it isn't vo co truyen, vo co truyen wear the black uniform with the name of the school behind!
vietnamese and khmer are the only large group of mon khmer languages. true. and chinese is sino tibetant but 80% of vietnamese vocabulary is chinese. french doesnt even make up 5%. french language has a very small influence on vietnamese. if you read a newspaper in vietnames and go through circling the chinese words, it is almost all of them.
@bigtimes1 actually i am right. there was no vietnamese writing system until the vietnamese were forced to adopt chinese. which they then lost when the french forced them to adopt the current, latin based writing system. i never claimed chinese people could understand vietnamese. i said 80% of vietnamese vocabulary is chinese, and it is.
I love coming back to read your old stuff to point out how stupid you are lol Chu-Nom wasnt "forced on the Vietnamese" it was adopted and modified to fit the Vietnamese language" with new characters for many words. In fact can you link a source that states it was "forced" or did you make that up again for dramatic effect? The French didnt "force" the latin script to the Vietnamese, and the script was adopted and developed from Portuguese Jesuits in Vietnam not from the French....lol And where is it stated that "80%" of Vietnamese is Chinese vocab? Or did you make that up too? Pretty sure its around 60% in formal text and only 40% in spoken Vietnamese about the same as Korean and Japanese etc. You exaggerate way to much. Its hilarious
Chu Nom is based on Chinese characters but its usage is different then Chinese, as they used the characters differently. and have invented their own characters. Example Cantonese and Mandarin cant understand each other but in written form they cant. In regards to Vietnamese, a Chinese person cannot understand Chu-Nom writing at all.(different system). I cant think of any reason you keep bringing up Vietnamese as just Chinese other than someone(vietnamese) offending you and you retaliating and being petty by keep refering to a separate ethnic group as being just Chinese. The way you stereotype and insult a whole ethnic group reminds me of how Donald Trump uses words to code his hate talk.
Not sure if i understand your grammar. but i didnt leave. i am still in hanoi and i would love to train with you. please send me your phone number and contact information. hope to see you soon. antonio
Yes, this video confirms that a Vietnamese ship ran into a Chinese ship. besides proving that Vietnamese can't drive well, what is your point? And in what way does this refute the evidence i produced earlier about how dependent Vietnam is on China?
Wow, you're pretty racist....(Trump supporter eh) In todays cancel culture im a make sure everyone sees your old comments, using Asian stereotypes and singling out a Whole Ethnic group. Amazing how a educated adult like yourself will stup to racism insults and putting down a whole population just because someone upset you.
"bout 80 percent of the entries in any English dictionary are borrowed, mainly from Latin. Over 60 percent of all English words have Greek or Latin roots. In the vocabulary of the sciences and technology, the figure rises to over 90 percent. " www.dictionary.com/e/word-origins/
Also not true. Vietnam is the sixth largest purcahser of arms from Russia but the arms trade with Russia is so small that Russia is not even listed in the top ten trading partners of Vietnam. Once again, and this is not an opinion, but a fact, the US is the largest trading partner of Vietnam.
No one said that Vietnamese was 100% Chinese. in Fact, you copied a quote from me, putting the percentage at 70-80% Chinese. And surprisingly, Vietnamese is also 70-80% one syllable words. Those words are largely the Chinese origin words.
@brooklynmonk1 monk you seem very wise, i must agree with you on most of this. I've been taking a Vietnamese study course at my University and most Vietnamese people didn't even know half of their country's history. Shame.
If you are familiar with a Vietnamese writing system which predates the use of Chinese characters in Vietnam, please share it. Or, if you can prove that the Vietnamese latinized their script independent of French influence, please share that information. In fact, if you have any real information, please share it. Or, perhaps you could point out what it is that i don't know. Thanks or the "piece of trash" comment, I assume by that you mean better educated, more widely traveled and such.
Actually, China hasnt had many wars in the last 100 years, but Vietnam had nearly 30 years of constant war. Since WWII China had military action in Tibet, which was wrong and invaded vietnam once. but vietnam fought france, US, and then invaded cambodia and made cambodia a colony.
I never claimed Vietnam was America's number one trading partner. I claimed America was Vietnam's number one trading partner, which it is. How is it that you keep calling me stupid when I have real facts and you don't? Vietnam is such a small and poor country it doesn't even rank in the top 30 US trading partners. The top ten are Canada, China, Mexico, Japan, Germany, United Kingdom , South Korea, Brazil, Saudi Arabia, France
A Human Being got only 2 hands & 2 legs + a Head, so no matter what you tried do, there will be some similarity looks in their forms. Sometime things may look similar but that doesnt mean they came from the same root. For everyone that think VN came from China is dead wrong and ignorance. VN and China are two differences race and country. China took over VN for 1000 years, that dosnt mean VN & China were related. Ex; Mexico speaks Spanish, does that mean that Mexicans came from Spain?
@GuardianDemonX "other martial arts was introduce to the world first becuz they doesnt have much war like Vietnam do" This statement is preposterous. All countries have war. and a number of countries have had almost constant war. I know vietnamese people are taught to say that this is unique to Vietnam, but it's just not true. Clearly, I do know the culture and history and language of Vietnam.
Of course Vietnam is depedent on America. First of all, we are one of the largest trading partners. And second of all, coming into the American sphere of influence would be a buffer for Vietnam against China.I actually know quite a bit about Vietnam, as expressed in these posts, two of my books also deal with vietnam, as do a large number of my magazine articles and videos. Yes, I see how smart your country is. Choosing a communist system, which set you back fifty years was a brilliant move.
Trung Quốc từ thời cổ đại đã là một trong những nền văn minh lớn nhất trên thế giới cùng với Ai Cập hay Lưỡng hà.. văn hóa của nó ảnh hưởng và lan rộng trên khắp châu á. điều đó cũng giống như sự ảnh hưởng của nền văn minh Hy Lạp lên khắp Châu Âu vậy. vì vậy ảnh hưởng của văn hóa Trung Quốc lên Việt Nam là điều không thể tránh khỏi. Tuy nhiên đất nước Việt Nam còn tồn tài đến ngày nay là vì chúng tôi vẫn giữ được nền văn hóa của riêng mình.
Vietnamese dont generally think about cambodians. always the small country hates the big country, khmers hate vietnam and thailand but thais and vietnamese dont have any reason to ever think about khmers. if thais or vietnamese do think about khmers, however, they simply look down on khmers.
Actually America is Vietnam's leading export trade partner and leading trade partner overall by volume. Russia is not even in the top ten. are you sure you are doing research before posting? You seem to have a lot of facts completely wrong. Vietnam's top ten trading partners 1 United States, 2Japan,3China, 4Singapore 5 Malaysia 6 Germany, 7 Philippines, 8 South Korea 9 Netherlands,10 United Kingdom
A lot of Vietnamese don't like Chinese, but not Cambodian, i know Cambodian dont like Vietnamese because "the history of Chinese". I'm not sure all of us, but A lot of Vietnamese aren't blame Cambodian.
@TQLCVNCH more than 80% of the Vietnamese vocabulary is Chinese and that is a fact independent of my ability or inability to speak Vietnamese. and once again, all one sylable words and compound words which are composed of two single sylable words are chinese.
of course . Chinese and VIetnamese can't understand each other . but the truth is 50% vietnamese from chinese . it's really certain . Vietnam used to invade for 1000 years . I think everybody in vietnamese know this
No, southern China was never part of Vietnam. The reason why Viet Nam is called Viet Nam is because it was the southern part of China (Nam is south). Also, Vietnam was a vassal state of China for 1,000 years. You really need to read your history.
I am sorry for you but you didn't train VOVINAM...this isn't VOVINAM...he isn't a Vovinam Master and he didn't show you Vovinam techniques...it's fake!
@jasluvtian . Your E is very bad please stop writing like this . Vietnamese has over 50 percent words from Chinese . it's really certain because I used to learn both Vietnamese and Chinese . Many words sound very near and they also have the same meaning .Of course figure of words are very different . one more , grammars of both seem like the same .it's my thinking sorry if you don't agree
Once again, you seem to be very uninformed. you are citing a single instance, which proves nothing. Modern Vietnam is as concerned as ever about China. China has a population nearly 15 times the size of Vietnam. Militarily and in terms of influence, China is much more powerful than Vietnam. China’s economy is number 2 in the world. Vietnam is only number 56. So, they are very dependent on China. China is the number 3 trading partner of Vietnam.
What I find wonderful, is that 40 years ago this place was at war, and now you're there making good friends through martial arts. How things change. Vovinam (Việt Võ Đạo) is not just a martial art, it is a philosophy, and a way of life, a friend opened my mind to this.
You really should have a reality tv show documenting you trip and video diary. That would be pretty cool and bring the rare arts to the public.
You can go into any park in hanoi between 6 AM and 8 AM and find tons of people teaching and practicing martial arts.
Good stuff. Keep up the good work
Nice video, i really should start conditioning my shins, knuckles and stuff.
hi antonio! this is manny in Hanoi....i just saw myself in the video when we're in the gym....keep in touch 'man......im sure you will have better videos in HCM....post also a video of your philippine stint once you're there..
lucky finding that magical sword. i got have that song in your video for my angels.
excellent vid!!
whats the name of that song in the background Antonio?
great video ..how did you find master Tuan ? what is the cost per week
hello i like the music in the background what is the name of the song? whos the artist? tell me where can i download it?
@GuardianDemonX First off, yes, I found out later this particular art is not exactly vovinam but probably a mix of vovinam with the Vietnamese strain of wing chun. later, in saigon, i did regular vovinam with the blue uniforms. .
In Hanoi there Master LONG.he's the TD of Hanoi for the VIETNAMESE VOVINAM FEDERATION
Anyone now what Vietnamese song that was in the beginning?
@brooklynmonk1 i'm sorry 1950's and the reference is the way of the warrior by chris crudelli
Awesome. Where do Master Tuan train Vovinam now? Still in that park (Which park?) I stay in Hanoi and would like to come and train.
@SolverRubiks Yes, I found out later that although the guy was a master of vovinam he had two or three other styles as well, and what he showed here was a mix of several styles.
What is "Ppx"? I don't understand.
i miss vietnam
@Benbanme Yes, I realized that afterwards.
@Benbanme Thanks for clearing that up. I knew him for several months in Hanoi and trained with him, but his art didnt look like vovinam i had seen in saigon. i also know he had knowledge of a lot of different martial arts.
Sorry your video link doesnt appear here. can you send it to me in a message or just tell me the name of the video and i will find it on youtube? What is the video and why should i watch it? also do you disagree with what I have written and which clearly proves that Vietnam does "give a shit" about China today?
i from viet nam adn i want lear vovinam. where???
@brooklynmonk1 Sorry i meant 80% of vietnamese vocabulary is Chinese. i miss typed above.
@GuardianDemonX i know i was just saying that your date for taekwondo was incorrect
@wassupmanG Yes, I agree, but the Vietnamese people originated in Southern China and Northern Vietnam, then migrated down.
@horangi75 Cool, do you have a reference for that? I am not disagreeing, I just want a factual reference.
@jasluvtian I don't understand your point, but none of the Chinese dialects have a separate written language, except Hong Kong Cantonese which uses traditional characters and includes a large number of unique Cantonese characters. Obviously Tieuchieu and other dialects don't have a writing system.
@GuardianDemonX as for Tae Kwan Do history, true modern Tae KWan Do was invented in the mid twentieth century, but the similarities I saw were in training techniques and kicking techniques, which, it is impossible that Vovinam influenced the development of tae kwan do, because Vietnam had very little contact with Korea. There is almost no vovinam in korma, but korean tae kwan do was exported to Vietnam.
@GuardianDemonX That is true.
@brooklynmonk1 Yes this is true. The Vietnamese Alphabet wasn't introduced to Vietnam until late 17th century by a French Missionary.
we arent talking about grammar. vietnamese grammar is unique but the vocabulary is chinese. and you absolutely know this to be true. if not, read some of the articles i have published on chinese loan words in vietnamese language
@whitelotus77 I did a magazine article about taekyon when i was in korea. it is a really strange and well documented, very, very old martial art. also syrum wrestling in korea may be one of the oldest documented martial arts anywhere.
@GuardianDemonX Vovinam is definitely a synthetic martial art, a mix of many things. It is less than a hundred years old. Tae Kwan Do was not invented in the 1970's. it is from the mid twentieth century.
Taekwndo as a name was invenmted in the 1950s but the FORMS were created in the 1970s(Taeguk forms) and the Yadansha(blackbelt forms)
and taekwondo's various kicks were invented in the 1970-onwards. Example there were only side kicks,turning side kicks,,round houses and front kicks in the 1950s-60s.......so technically Taekwondo as we know it today developed post 1970s
@TamStuhMan this song call Bay cùng tình yêu
not sure what your point is, but an american general, Stillwell was supreme commander of chinese forces in world war II. yes, china did fight in their own civil war. what is your point?
he..he...nice video
@wolfmanno0 no ?
Well back then, Southern China was part of Vietnam. So Southern Chinese came from Vietnam not the other way around.
Cool send me his contact info and i will go train with him
@jasluvtian Oh I thought it was something else because that is a dau nga on ia
@TheNguyenboi thanks. I hope my example does not sound so awful though hahah even my purpose was only to use non Han-Viet words so he has no idea what i was talking about
@pipopipo96 The borrowed words are almost in areas such as government,politics,literature and military..even in science. If someone is giving a speech in one of these areas in vietnamese and if you know chinese, you can make out atleast half of what is the speech is about. I also notice the sentence structure is similar..the only difference is adjective comes before noun in chinese but vietnamse is the other way around. However the systematic similarities between cantonese and
it is all about being with the Nature. Thats how u grow :)
I know a lot of Cambodians(not most but quite a few) who don't like Vietnamese. Is it the same in Vietnam?
actually there is only one posting by an akha organization. the man got arrested and permanently kicked out of thailand and then wrote something bad about me. beyond that you wont find anything. but what ignorant statement did i make in this video?
@brooklynmonk1 We originated from Southern China but back then it wasnt considered as being China. It was originally land of the Lac Viet.
@hhnam1989 The history of and the linguistics of the Vietnamese language have been well studied and documented, 80% of the vocabulary is Chinese. but no, i don't understand your comment. but my knowledge of the Vietnamese language does not change the history or the fact that most of the vocabulary comes from china originally.
Look everyone, Antonio will not list his source that says Vietnamese is "80" percent Chinese. because he made that number up. It is actually 40-60% like Korean and Japanese.
@jasluvtian It is a fact, researched and published by any number of leading scholars and journals that 805 of vietnamese vocabulary is Chinese. in my own study, i would go through vocabulary lists and identify Chinese words, such as viet Nam which is a Chinese name. there are so many every day words which are Chinese. but once again, i wil ask you, did you actually study Vietnamese and Chinese, or are you just a native speaker? there is a huge difference.
Vietnamese is not a Chinese language anymore so then Turkish is Persian. Influence doesnt change the language family. Example English is a Germanic language but has over 70% Latin vocab. So Is English a Romance language? No.
Also Vietnamese contrarily to common belief does not have a strong affinity to Han-Chinese genes than any other east asian group. In fact according to the largest genetic research done by National Geographics actually shows Vietnamese to have less then 12% Han-Chinese DNA.
genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations-next-gen/
@TQLCVNCH actually 70 to 80 percent of vietnamese vocabulary is chinese. all one sylabale words in vietnamese are chinese. mon khmer words are multisyalbic so only the longer words are vietanese. even the name of the country viet nam is two chinese characters.
Yes everyone who has seen this video says its not really vovinam. most people think it looks like vo co truyen. but as for the blue uniform, i really dont like wearing a uniform. i live in thailand most of the time and i train in shorts and T-shirt.
just to clear it up Mr. Tuan is not a Vovinam practitioner hahaha. he's the master of Ngu Lo Quyen, a traditional Viet martial arts.
@horangi75 I said mid-twnetieth century, so 1950's would seem correct.
the Chinese didnt fight any civil way in the 1950's(implying it was in the 1950's lmao)....It ended in 1949....The conflicts in the 1950s were against bandits and outlaws just look that up.....The KMT were already forced to Taiwan by then....you're so dumb and pretentious
This is võ cổ truyền (Vietnam traditional martial art) not vovinam, vovinam is a model version of võ cổ truyền
lol the music soundsl ike stuff viet parents listen to, i lol'd XD
Actually Mexico was part of Spain for 300 years. And that is why they speak Spanish. 60 -80% of Vietnamese language is Chinese. I am a linguist and have published numerous articles on Vietnamese language. Even the word vo co truyen is a Chinese word. Even the country name Viet Nam. Nam is the Chinese word for south because Vietnam was south china.
@pipopipo96 i know it was bad. It was intended. Anywho...i agree the vietnamese language has quite a percentage of borrowed Chinese words. Its the obvious evidence of almost 1000 years being in the same union with China. I also need to mention most of these words are cantonese base. It makes sense since north vietnam was in the ame administrative zone with QuangDong and QuangXi. I also happens to know some cantonese and i am sure of what i say about vietnamese and cantonese
I'm actually unsure also, I must've misread, I was watching this at 3am ish
@brooklynmonk1 if you know Vietnamese history which you clearly don't. you can write Vietnamese language with Chinese characters and then compare the Chinese pronunciation to the Vietnamese pronunciation of those characters.
You can write a great many of the words but you diffinately cannot how write "Vietnamese" language with standard Chinese characters as they do not use the same Grammar, it must be modified hence how Chu Nom was developed rather then adopt regular Chinese duhh
@GuardianDemonX i'm not saying it is i'm just saying that taekwondo was not invented in the 1970s
The problem of the uniform is not for you, but for them..they are with t-shirt and VOVINAM train only with vo-phuc..the uniform..
Maybe this is not Vo Co Truyen..but Vinh Xuan..that is the vietnamese wing chung, and it isn't vo co truyen, vo co truyen wear the black uniform with the name of the school behind!
vietnamese and khmer are the only large group of mon khmer languages. true. and chinese is sino tibetant but 80% of vietnamese vocabulary is chinese. french doesnt even make up 5%. french language has a very small influence on vietnamese. if you read a newspaper in vietnames and go through circling the chinese words, it is almost all of them.
@brooklynmonk1
Sorry, sir, you still dont understand my language enough.
@bigtimes1 actually i am right. there was no vietnamese writing system until the vietnamese were forced to adopt chinese. which they then lost when the french forced them to adopt the current, latin based writing system. i never claimed chinese people could understand vietnamese. i said 80% of vietnamese vocabulary is chinese, and it is.
I love coming back to read your old stuff to point out how stupid you are lol
Chu-Nom wasnt "forced on the Vietnamese" it was adopted and modified to fit the Vietnamese language" with new characters for many words. In fact can you link a source that states it was "forced" or did you make that up again for dramatic effect?
The French didnt "force" the latin script to the Vietnamese, and the script was adopted and developed from Portuguese Jesuits in Vietnam not from the French....lol
And where is it stated that "80%" of Vietnamese is Chinese vocab? Or did you make that up too? Pretty sure its around 60% in formal text and only 40% in spoken Vietnamese about the same as Korean and Japanese etc.
You exaggerate way to much. Its hilarious
Chu Nom is based on Chinese characters but its usage is different then Chinese, as they used the characters differently. and have invented their own characters. Example Cantonese and Mandarin cant understand each other but in written form they cant. In regards to Vietnamese, a Chinese person cannot understand Chu-Nom writing at all.(different system). I cant think of any reason you keep bringing up Vietnamese as just Chinese other than someone(vietnamese) offending you and you retaliating and being petty by keep refering to a separate ethnic group as being just Chinese. The way you stereotype and insult a whole ethnic group reminds me of how Donald Trump uses words to code his hate talk.
Not sure if i understand your grammar. but i didnt leave. i am still in hanoi and i would love to train with you. please send me your phone number and contact information. hope to see you soon. antonio
Yes, this video confirms that a Vietnamese ship ran into a Chinese ship. besides proving that Vietnamese can't drive well, what is your point? And in what way does this refute the evidence i produced earlier about how dependent Vietnam is on China?
Wow, you're pretty racist....(Trump supporter eh) In todays cancel culture im a make sure everyone sees your old comments, using Asian stereotypes and singling out a Whole Ethnic group. Amazing how a educated adult like yourself will stup to racism insults and putting down a whole population just because someone upset you.
only 20% of english is french but it actualy latinate root words. but olnly a quarter of the amount of chinese in a vietnamese sentence.
"bout 80 percent of the entries in any English dictionary are borrowed, mainly from Latin. Over 60 percent of all English words have Greek or Latin roots. In the vocabulary of the sciences and technology, the figure rises to over 90 percent. "
www.dictionary.com/e/word-origins/
Also not true. Vietnam is the sixth largest purcahser of arms from Russia but the arms trade with Russia is so small that Russia is not even listed in the top ten trading partners of Vietnam. Once again, and this is not an opinion, but a fact, the US is the largest trading partner of Vietnam.
No one said that Vietnamese was 100% Chinese. in Fact, you copied a quote from me, putting the percentage at 70-80% Chinese. And surprisingly, Vietnamese is also 70-80% one syllable words. Those words are largely the Chinese origin words.
If you're unsure, maybe you shouldnt insult me like that...
Chinese and vietnamese are different people.... there may be some cultural influence but still....different people
Plus the MA rooted in southern china kungfu :P
@jasluvtian Rofl good one
you see that flag of him? that's why he's copied your quote.
@brooklynmonk1 monk you seem very wise, i must agree with you on most of this. I've been taking a Vietnamese study course at my University and most Vietnamese people didn't even know half of their country's history. Shame.
Conpared to most Americans knowlege of their own history, Vietnamese know a lot more. LOL
If you are familiar with a Vietnamese writing system which predates the use of Chinese characters in Vietnam, please share it. Or, if you can prove that the Vietnamese latinized their script independent of French influence, please share that information. In fact, if you have any real information, please share it. Or, perhaps you could point out what it is that i don't know. Thanks or the "piece of trash" comment, I assume by that you mean better educated, more widely traveled and such.
Actually, China hasnt had many wars in the last 100 years, but Vietnam had nearly 30 years of constant war. Since WWII China had military action in Tibet, which was wrong and invaded vietnam once. but vietnam fought france, US, and then invaded cambodia and made cambodia a colony.
I never claimed Vietnam was America's number one trading partner. I claimed America was Vietnam's number one trading partner, which it is. How is it that you keep calling me stupid when I have real facts and you don't? Vietnam is such a small and poor country it doesn't even rank in the top 30 US trading partners. The top ten are Canada, China, Mexico, Japan, Germany, United Kingdom , South Korea, Brazil, Saudi Arabia, France
A Human Being got only 2 hands & 2 legs + a Head, so no matter what you tried do, there will be some similarity looks in their forms. Sometime things may look similar but that doesnt mean they came from the same root. For everyone that think VN came from China is dead wrong and ignorance. VN and China are two differences race and country. China took over VN for 1000 years, that dosnt mean VN & China were related. Ex; Mexico speaks Spanish, does that mean that Mexicans came from Spain?
like if you're in vovinam or currently learning
Haha. kicking some trees, using what they got.
I don't think so!!!.
@GuardianDemonX "other martial arts was introduce to the world first becuz they doesnt have much war like Vietnam do" This statement is preposterous. All countries have war. and a number of countries have had almost constant war. I know vietnamese people are taught to say that this is unique to Vietnam, but it's just not true. Clearly, I do know the culture and history and language of Vietnam.
@GuardianDemonX taekwondo was invented in 1942
Of course Vietnam is depedent on America. First of all, we are one of the largest trading partners. And second of all, coming into the American sphere of influence would be a buffer for Vietnam against China.I actually know quite a bit about Vietnam, as expressed in these posts, two of my books also deal with vietnam, as do a large number of my magazine articles and videos. Yes, I see how smart your country is. Choosing a communist system, which set you back fifty years was a brilliant move.
Trung Quốc từ thời cổ đại đã là một trong những nền văn minh lớn nhất trên thế giới cùng với Ai Cập hay Lưỡng hà.. văn hóa của nó ảnh hưởng và lan rộng trên khắp châu á. điều đó cũng giống như sự ảnh hưởng của nền văn minh Hy Lạp lên khắp Châu Âu vậy. vì vậy ảnh hưởng của văn hóa Trung Quốc lên Việt Nam là điều không thể tránh khỏi. Tuy nhiên đất nước Việt Nam còn tồn tài đến ngày nay là vì chúng tôi vẫn giữ được nền văn hóa của riêng mình.
but i dont
@brooklynmonk1 your wrong. Vietnamese had its own writing system until the chinese destoried it, and no Chinese can understand Vietnamese.
Vietnamese dont generally think about cambodians. always the small country hates the big country, khmers hate vietnam and thailand but thais and vietnamese dont have any reason to ever think about khmers. if thais or vietnamese do think about khmers, however, they simply look down on khmers.
Actually America is Vietnam's leading export trade partner and leading trade partner overall by volume. Russia is not even in the top ten. are you sure you are doing research before posting? You seem to have a lot of facts completely wrong. Vietnam's top ten trading partners 1 United States, 2Japan,3China, 4Singapore 5 Malaysia
6 Germany, 7 Philippines, 8 South Korea 9 Netherlands,10 United Kingdom
This is not Vovinam !
A lot of Vietnamese don't like Chinese, but not Cambodian, i know Cambodian dont like Vietnamese because "the history of Chinese". I'm not sure all of us, but A lot of Vietnamese aren't blame Cambodian.
@TQLCVNCH more than 80% of the Vietnamese vocabulary is Chinese and that is a fact independent of my ability or inability to speak Vietnamese. and once again, all one sylable words and compound words which are composed of two single sylable words are chinese.
of course . Chinese and VIetnamese can't understand each other . but the truth is 50% vietnamese from chinese . it's really certain . Vietnam used to invade for 1000 years . I think everybody in vietnamese know this
No, southern China was never part of Vietnam. The reason why Viet Nam is called Viet Nam is because it was the southern part of China (Nam is south). Also, Vietnam was a vassal state of China for 1,000 years. You really need to read your history.
I am sorry for you but you didn't train VOVINAM...this isn't VOVINAM...he isn't a Vovinam Master and he didn't show you Vovinam techniques...it's fake!
VOVINAM has ONLY the Blue Uniform..they NEVER train with t-shirt. Your history is correct but Vovinam is other thing,watch my videos.
wow I practiced vovinam for 5 years and that doesn't look like vovinam
@jasluvtian . Your E is very bad please stop writing like this . Vietnamese has over 50 percent words from Chinese . it's really certain because I used to learn both Vietnamese and Chinese . Many words sound very near and they also have the same meaning .Of course figure of words are very different . one more , grammars of both seem like the same .it's my thinking sorry if you don't agree
Not vovinam!!! It come from Ngũ Lộ Quyền!!! Ngũ Lộ Quyền is made by Phan Bá in Anh Sơn-Nghệ An-Việt Nam!!! No China kungfu in there!!!
Once again, you seem to be very uninformed. you are citing a single instance, which proves nothing. Modern Vietnam is as concerned as ever about China. China has a population nearly 15 times the size of Vietnam. Militarily and in terms of influence, China is much more powerful than Vietnam. China’s economy is number 2 in the world. Vietnam is only number 56. So, they are very dependent on China. China is the number 3 trading partner of Vietnam.