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Elio IS the MC! | Honkai: Star Rail Theory
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- Опубліковано 22 вер 2022
- Welcome all to my first theory video on Honkai: Star Rail!!
I know the theory has some holes in it and it's not a guarantee thing, I never meant for it to be, I just wanted to showcase a cool and interesting theory that I did not see many people talk about or bring up.
This is also a very different editing style than what I normally do so I would love to hear what you guys thought! Like I said since this is my first time making a theory video I have no idea if I did well at explaining my thoughts on the subject, but I tried as hard as I could to make as coherent as possible.
I would like to thank @Ashikai and Phoebe again for their fantastic help on getting evidence and resources for this theory. I would not have been able to make this video without them, so check out their socials below!!
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Kafka's Companion Mission pretty much debunks this. In one of her lines, she mentioned that Elio dumped the Trailblazer onto her lap. That gave an impression that Elio and the Trailblazer are two different people.
Blade also mentioned that we "followed Kafka for years." That meant the Trailblazer and Elio has been around for years as well.
late response, but I agree with this. I think it's far more likely that the trailblazer is the akivili the trailblazer, on a path to re-establishing themself and that the stellaron hunters were all together with them on the astral express or even as the nameless. It says that Elio recruited them using Sam to bring their team together, but it is very unclear what exactly they were being invited TO exactly. It's called the stellaron hunters now, but what if they were all astral express travelers up until whatever exactly happened to akivili and most wander away disheartened and the stellaron hunters took it upon themselves to go bring akivili back long before welt came into the universe or whatever. We only know of the nameless as akivilis followers, but it's highly likely there is at least one other factions associated with the Eon. While there are a lot of suggestions that the stellaron hunters follow the finality, this is not clear, and I would argue that it is equally likely they follow akivili with a leader that's guided by finality path powers just as multiple people of other paths join and even lead factions dedicated to other Eons. (Fu Xuan is not of the hunt and play critical roles in guiding the xianzhou loufu). I think people are putting an overly large amount of importance on the path of the individual and not the path of the group and their goal which is largely hidden.
But looking back at the 1st part of the game if u all pay attention at the simulated universe. The MC is called elio by all the aeons
This is a very well-made theory video. Honestly enjoyed watching it.
My take on Elio's 'endgame' is that he doesn't necessarily see the future, but the 'timelines/results of actions' and takes specific steps in order to achieve said results. It would explain him 'dying' and giving Stellaron + his data to Kafka if that was necessary for a particular result to be achieved.
Thank you! And I'm glad you enjoyed. That's a perfect way to explain what I trying to go for, I'm taking note of that lol
@@AzrialVanity SPOILER WARNING - Also remember that when you meet Kafka on the Xianzhou she says that Elio's script is guiding to a POSSIBILITY to defeat the god of destruction. If that is the case then Elio can see MULTIPLE timelines and is using his script to make the outcome that he/she wants
@@AzrialVanity I do not know why but I always had the theory of Elio potentially being Dan Heng or a future version of him.
Idk why.
I don't think the Trailblazer is Elio, but the reincarnation of Akivili.
I do enjoy that theory as well, the launch of the game had a ton of evidence pointing that being the case
Tbh I think so as well. I was thinking of the stellerons similarly to the remains of the dead gods in genshin. Since the gods remains cause calamity. I was thinking the stellerons were the remains of fallen aeons and MC was infused with the stelleron containing the essence of Akivalli.
that is a plausible theory too, since akivili is literally the "path of the trailblaze", also once known as the nameless god
Would explain why they are the key to defeating Nanook, if they have the power of an aeon.
he trailblazer
Can confirm this theory is true, I was the honkai
Honestly so true
Youre the will of honkai?
Honkai when the star is about to rail:
I can confirm he's telling the truth, I was the H in his name
Real. I was the tree
I'd say this theory is wrong, because on the Luofu Kafka said and I quote "Elio withheld key information from me", which would suggest that Elio is still alive and giving out the missions personally. Although the script could be like "read this next part only when my Copy/MC arrives at the Luofu" or some "super high-tech gadget" that reveals Elio's script at the critical moment...
...What if Elio is the cat on Kafkas splash art?
Edit: In the fake ending, when you choose to stay on the space station, Elio is titled as "Screenplay Director", someone in a movie who interprets the Screenwriters script and leads the pre-production, the shooting and the post-production. First of all, this suggests Elio is alive, but also suggests he doesn't write the script. Perhaps if Elio is an Emanator of Terminus and interprets Terminus' script.
Also, a line describing Terminus says and I quote "The apparition travels across the universe while murmuring a prophecy that is destined to be fulfilled" this is most likely the "script" Elio is interpreting.
Also kafka said that Elio's scripts just one of the multiple possibilities. But this video is based on the beta test, which possibly didn't contain the Luofu story line.
Imma say Elio is dead.. he did due to exposure to us over time.. same way Cocolia was being slowly mutated and mentally eroded.. STELLERON IS ALIVE.. a LIFE FORM… we are placed into a vessal.. by silverwolf we know her ppl like create stuff out of nothing.. aka she created us the stelleron a body of Kafkas choice.. we’re not Elio.. 😂 note we seem to be more educated and have a good relationship with kafka and silver wolf PRE start of the game.. they don’t see us as enemies and they literally lowkey guide us… I think we were all friends … stellerons grant wishes remember.. it’s easily possible we where stelleron inside of Elio and maybe he’s gift to see the future was us granting it.. aka he died as a result due to long term “cancer” and or reset was maybe part of the plan.. aka why kafka is still helping us and they all remember who we were.. ppl forget that important detail.. WERE A STELLERON LIFEFORM.. LIFEFORM… literally spawn of nanook.. basically out “daddy” Cocolias stelleron is basically our sibling.. stelleron grant wishes.. we are ones.. was there a wish involved pre start of the game with Elio..? I like to think Elio gave his life for the power he had to try to save the world with us by making a wish and it’s kafkas job to now read the script… conclusion Stellerons are inherent bad.. 😂 it’s how ppl use them and just their nature to mutate things.. aka we aren’t harming anything even though we almost blew up hertas ship on accident… we’re a stelleron that literally lost control in order to save a friend.. conclusion: I’m leaning towards Elio befriended us and made a wish to us.. die eventually.. we are unknowingly “good” stelleron that wants to help cause of pre existing relationship with Elio.. so I say subconsciously/unknowingly we are full filling elios wish.. which kafka clearly knows about… 🧐not convince stelleron was just aquired by herta by luck.. pretty sure Elio had us end up being on hertas ship.. aka we need to be there so we could get in the express after being reawakon with no memories.. 🧐
Elio is 100 percent the cat the new trailer makes it obv
In that same scene when she talks about Elio it shows a figure in the background that I assume is supposed to be Elio; the thing is the figure also looks identical to Nanook; the aeon of Destruction.
Kafka: "So you remember me" Silver wolf: *Obviously looks away at that moment* (or you know she 'reacted' or they wouldnt have panned over and have her do ...
An particular thing about the name Elio, which means "Sun". Which could be a worldplay reference for Helios, god of the sun. Concidentally enough, Helio is also called Hyperion, which is the ship's name at Honkai Impact 3.
If his endgame have something to do with time and gods --- at some point he met Dan Heng and Marvh 7th on his own timeline. And give the MC a chance to change something.
I CAN'T BELIEVE I FORGOT I ADD THE SUN REFERENCE BACK INTO THE VIDEO!!!
I rewrote the script a couple times and that just completely slipped my mind, thank you for bringing it up again!
And the fact that Hyperion has an A.I. *Ai Hyperion Λ*
And helius in gi aka daimichi no mikoshi
reminds me.
The time crystal that has the hyperion''s AI.
she's no longer in a loop, but i wonder if that just made the loop bigger?-- MUCH bigger
that would be strange...
Actually Hyperion is Helios’s father in Greek Mythology
I just thought MC was some sort of synthetic that Elio created that has his memories of Kafka and everything to carry out his plans and script more fluidly. I then jokingly thought of an idea,
"Lmao he's our dad 💀"
NICE THEORY THO. It honestly makes sense✨
I think that the Aeon of Terminus is the Herrscher of Finality who is currently Kiana Kaslana from Honkai Impact.
I think they are similar in nature as well, hopefully we get more info on them on launch!
The cocoon is more like an emanator, where it’s power only lies specifically in the dimension of Honkai Impact 3rd’s world/Earth. If Aeons, who are higher dimensional beings essentially beyond the concept of existence/time, were in place of any one herrscher at any point, all fights would end in zero or possibly negative seconds. Hi3 doesn’t expand on multi-dimensional stuff that much so….
I would also like to add that in the new trailer that shows all of the aeon of each path, from what i gathered Nanook seems to someday actually managed to do something to end the world (or something as destructive as that) and it is implied that the other aeon will then Help us beating Nanook. That is what Elio end goal, to possibly beat Nanook, it would also explain why when we met Kafka once more on Xianzhou, Kafka said that her reason on why she send us there is to make Xianzhou owe us and would then result in Lan noticing us.
atleast, this is what i've managed to grasp so far
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Herta is confirmed to be an Emanator of Nous, the Aeon of Erudition.
I was so glad they added that to hertas backstory in the final build
You forgot about the other key piece of the puzzle there: the Aeon of Remembrance Fuli.
_Intellection equals existence. Thus, memory is the evidence of existence that presides over the Path of Remembrance, and records all that has been forgotten and prepares for the _*_rebirth_*_ of the universe._
The narrator of the Myriad Celestia trailer is Black Swan, an emanator of Fuli, and it seems they know what our journey will entail... because those are memories already.
Now, if you think of rebirth as a rewind then both, Terminus's existence (who resets the universe by going back in time) and Fuli's existence (who believes in rebirth and pretty sure has Terminus's memories) must succeed in their goals in order to keep existing.
But that paints an interesting Nanook too, because maybe destroying everything in a finite way could mean being free of a perpetual samsara everyone is trapped in. And maybe the reason why is on antagonistic terms with Terminus to begin with.
Which, if that is how things are, I will almost cheer Nanook to bring an end to all.
I actually thought our MC might be connected to (or is) Akivili the Aeon of Trailblazing since when Kafka was talking about the different fates of past Aeons she strangly posed at Akivili and if asked how did it died she responds that no one knows and that it just disapeared one day. I dont believe that one bit. I think Kafka knows how Akivili passed away and I believe Akivili might be someone she knew well => MC might be Akivilis new incarnation. After all only Aeons can kill other Aeon and if we are expected to kill Nanook than we ought to be one or at leased and existence close to being one. And when it comes to Elio... who knows. Elio might just be Akililis mortal name or smth (we were taled that Aeons were mortals at some point in the past)
Good video. It would make sense the MC to be Elio but what if the MC isn't Elio but a reincarnation of Elio so the MC is it's own person but with Elio memory of Kafka and Elio future seer powers. Kinda like Eivor from AC Valhalla. *Spoilers from that game *
For example Basim from the same game is Loki reincarnation gets overtaken by Loki and becomes Loki with Loki memories and personality. But Eivor (Odin reincarnation) sees Odin memories but never becomes Odin.
So maybe the Receptacle is similar to that and we either become Elio again or we become our own person separated from Elio but with his powers and memories.
I would be so interesting to see the MC start to act differently on each planet we travel as we grow more into what Elio actually acts like. Would be an incredible character dynamic to see 👀
Kafka: I did it all for you
MC: Me?
Elio: US
Saw a comment about Akivili and it got me thinking, we all know that Akivili disappeared and is presumably dead, right? But of course, the cause was unknown. But what if the cause was...he tried fighting against Nanook and died?
How I thought of this was because from what Kafka told us (during Xianzhou quest) and a few of the other characters'dialogues (I don't remember who), they said Nanook wants to destroy the universe (for what purpose, I forgot). Akivili is an Aeon who pretends to be a human to travel the universe on the Astral Express to see the world.
By this, Nanook sees the world as broken while Akivili sees the world as beautiful considering he's seen those worlds for himself. 2 opposing paths. And as Kafka said, there are 3 ways to kill an Aeon. One of them was converging of opposite paths. So, I suddenly thought, could Akivili got himself killed in an attempt to protect the universe against Nanook?
How this theory then connects with the trailblazer is how for every quest, it is becoming a routine for them to gain the recognition of an Aeon to use its power to fight against a strong enemy (Doomsday Beast and Cocolia). If we think of it, the trailblazer is consider one who doesn't follow a particular path. Sure, they did go physical before preservation but originally, even before he picked up the bat, he literally was a person with no path. Only when he joined the express crew would he be what we considered as him following a path, the path of Akivili the trailblazer. Remember, path is not merely a method of attack/support but also a belief (like the archons in Genshin having their own beliefs like freedom, eternity, contract and wisdom). In that sense, he was definitely like the other express crew. But what makes him different than the other express crew is the fact that he possess a Stellaron.
A Stellaron is considered the cancer of the universe. A powerful yet dangerous thing that no human or machine could contain it. But where do Stellaron's come from? How was it created? We don't know the answer to these questions, but we do know the answer to why these Stellarons are so powerful. If in reality, a dead star leaves either a small light or a blackhole, Stellaron may have the same kind of origin except instead of dead stars, it's dead Aeons.
In Genshin, we see that archons are no different than humans as they make both enemies and friends throughout their lives. If we remember, Orobashi was killed by Ei, both of them are considered archons (gods) with opposing beliefs. Similar to Zhongli fighting against Osial during the archon war which eventually. Technically in Genshin, all of the adepti are considered gods who instead of making an enemy of Morax, they made him a friend.
This same thing could be applied with Aeons. Like how currently, Lan (Aeon of the Hunt) is hunting down the Aeon of Abundance because of what they did to his believers i.e. opposing beliefs. And remember how in almost every place we go to, there's always a Stellaron? Aside from Herta's space station which Herta probably bought the Stellaron for research purposes, how could the Xianzhou Luofu and Jarilo-6 have a Stellaron? It is a possibility that Jarilo-6 had a Stellaron because of the war with the Anti-matter Legion 700 years ago, but what about the Luofu? My thought, is that it's a possibility that there are actually 3 types of beliefs on the Luofu before and that these 3 Aeons coexisted with each other and we're probably friends, until the abundance screwed up and got into a fight. Possibly, another Aeon tried to stop the fight which ended up killing them in the process. The battle probably took place above the Luofu. When that Aeon died, the Stellaron probably fell onto the Luofu, hence why they have one in their possession.
If we think of the Stellaron as the power emanating from a dead Aeon, then it makes sense why the Stellaron is so dangerous and why the other Aeons trust the trailblazer to possess their power more than they believe their own people who DO follow their beliefs. But wait. How would this connect to Elio?...
Consider this, if Aeons were capable of death and only follow one path, then there should at least be one Aeon or someone higher than an Aeon who CANNOT die and have seen the death and rebirth of the universe in order for it to anticipate what would happen next but does follow any path. That possibility fits Elio who can see the future down to the finest details. It's possible that Elio is someone who is higher than an Aeon and that him being Elio is merely a way for him to execute a plan to save the universe after so many destructions.
From finding the cause of the universe's destruction to how to defeat the enemy (Nanook), Elio may have seen so many death and rebirth of the same universe over and over again right up to the point he's able to script everything down to the finest details. But one thing about scripts is that scripts can be changed. What if the existence of the trailblazer was actually not a part of the future that Elio foresee but a past that he wanted to happen in order to prevent the future he foresee? Now that really comes back to what Kafka said to the trailblazer that he/she needs to face against Nanook eventually so they need the help from all the Aeons in order to fight Nanook and the Antimatter Legion for good.
Now about getting help from the other Aeons, from what we know, Akivili has trailblazed throughout the universe and the routes that the current Astral Express is taking isn't something new to the train's experience. In that sense, the other Aeons would've known his existence since he had already trailblazed on their supposed home planets which would've made those Aeons his friends. If that's the case could it be that other than the fact that the trailblazer possess a Stellaron to help contain their Aeon powers, they see the trailblazer as like Akivili's true successor to fight against Nanook? It would be weird if the other Aeons didn't know about Nanook's plan to destroy the universe. But it would make sense why they didn't try to stop him because of how weak those Aeons are because they don't have obsessive believers of their paths (not like how Nanook is with the Antimatter Legion) which helps strengthen their power according to their paths.
Akivili may have been the only Aeon who undertook the risk of fighting against Nanook as it goes against his path as a trailblazer who trailblaze to see the beauty of the universe. Elio may have foreseen his death against Nanook and may have foreseen that after the death of Akivili, the death of the universe would follow. But instead of leaving it as is, he decides to change things by adding MC into the script of future events along with Kafka and Silver Wolf helping out in the process as they are considered destiny's slaves who follow Elio's script to the exact details. This is where the "lots of changes" that Kafka mentions take place.
In conclusion, Elio is a being higher than that of an Aeon who is trying to stop the destruction of the universe by creating MC as a variable that differs from the original script of how future events would occur and that he made the Stellaron hunters association for the sake of guiding the MC to collect and gain trusts and power of all the different Aeon's paths in order to fight against Nanook and prevent the destruction of the universe.
Similarly like Herta's Simulated universe where we have the ability to pick and choose different paths (not necessarily the ones we initially picked) and then combine all their different buffs to create a team strong enough to face the boss at the end of each simulated universe.
Alright, theory talking is over. Good night. Take this whole freaking theory with a grain of salt btw. See ya~
Intresting theory ngl and I kinda considered it as well.
But didn’t Herta say in the Simulated Universe that Akivili and Nanook never met? (SU World 3, to be precise). Unless she has wrong information, that one fact immediately breaks the whole theory down.
This theory broke my small brain bro
Such a great job 👏😊
MC is Elio and Elio is Terminus. What if at the end of his life Elio became Aeon who living backwards and he make Elio his emanator. As pair they can reload universe when something goes out of plan. Elio can tell his AEon what's wrong and he can pass new instructions in a past
Yo that's a sick ass concept
@@AzrialVanity In fact if Elio is Aeon that once started live backwards he avoid honkai or maybe he became aeon during next honkai and his main goal as aeon is help himself stop honkai. Actually Elio dont need to tell something to Terminus about things going wrong, because he is Terminus and he already knows everything ELio knows.
And I have another theory: what if in present Elio isnt exist, what if Elio is MC, but Elio who assosiate with stellaron hunters is Terminus who doing everything backwards like Neil in TENET. And he died someday in a past and create android or clone of himself, MC who become next Elio, Elio of next time loop. This explain Kafka's pharse about our future Elio chose
@@reveng3r main, time travel makes my head hurt
Luckily putting Alien artefacts in human bodys never ever went wrong in honkai
Well thats what happen to cocolia i think which makes the mc not human if they can house a frikin stellaron in thier body... And two of them too. Also wonder what kafka and the othes did to the other body that they dint wake up.
@@scarletrose8766 alas they only have one in them not two
@@Dante1282 i mean they have two bodies since kafka was able to pick which body to use for the stellaron.
@@scarletrose8766 I wonder what the bodies were for in the first place
@@Ji-zt7ny thats what i would like to know as to why they have them.
Great Video and Theory by the way, i like your theory think that MC is Elio but my version i think MC is Homunculus Version of Elio since there's no limit of Science and Alchemy in Star Rail and act as his Secondary too fulfil his end goal and Kafka put Stellatorn inside mc body act as his/her heart.
god damn... initially while theorymaking with a friend i thought that the mc could ba akavili but this also makes sense it would explain why the mc got visions of the future in that one vision he had at the start of the game
Great theory, We came to pretty much the same conclusions as you in one discord server a few months back.
Thank you!
Also I'm so glad to hear that others thought of the theory as well.
Has no one ever notice that the Terminus symbol is the Adventurer Guild symbol from Genshin that Alice created?
Maybe Elio is just simply the "other MC" (like lumine is the abyss twin, caelus is Elio)
That wouldnt surprise me really.
Not to self, look for someone that looks like us
Fr because there were 2 receptacles not one
Kafka asks if the explosion was in the script cause Elio's predictions don't include every detail, just the ones that are important enough
They also show multiple futures, depending on what choices are made. The Stellaron Hunters' job is to make the choices that, according to his prediction, will bring forth the future that they want. That's why they have to follow a script, since, if they Didn't, the future would change
Edit: Also, I know the video is old and the youtuber probably already knows all of this, but commenting just in case someone who didn't know got it recommended
Regarding the "Not remembering": there is a detail missing in english dub of the game, that is important:
When Kafka says "*Listen:*" - the sound of her voice changes, becomes reverberated and blurry. This is her power to Suggest, that she also uses in combat (ex. SU W5). She brainwashes the MC to do what she says after "*Listen:*", which is to be someone else, forget everything, and so on.
Just as a more concrete answer to the question.
The fact that there is "Path of Finality" means we could see a glimpse of our tuna in HSR
(just a maybe)
Please give me Tuna in HSR I BEG
I like this theory, though it's outdated now and there's evidence against it. Regarding the questioning of the script -- I think he only writes down some predictions onto the script but not all. As stated by Silver Wolf, attacking the anti-matter legion was not on the script so they had more freedom when it came to that. I'm assuming Elio's 'scripts' only contain important information regarding the future. I don't think he'd tell them everything.
Did you guys have the 2nd world (3rd if we count the space station) in beta?
With Kafka mentioning Ellio again, and how she told us we will face off against the Destruction path god ?
Looking back at this, I could totally see for example us being either Elio or Elio's trusted side kick. Then Elio going back in time to formulate a plan on how to deal with this situation and be more prepared next time we faceoff against the enemy.
But it will be a few years till their story will reach that goal. Also remember what the MC says "reach the end of your story in your own way" or something like that. I wouldn't say we are Elio himself, but we are definitely related to him, the steleron hunters, kafka, and that aeon of finality
I will save all my pull now for Elio from now !
Theres a theory that mc is the reincarnation of the aeon the who created the train forgot what hes nane was in the video of aeons that chick "myraid clestia" addreses us as that AEON 🤯
Kafka eludes to us brawling with an Aeon later down the line.
Flash forward to release: Elio doesn't see the future,, he sees many futures but picked his favorite to go after.
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No shot all of Jarillo-VI is only 3 days BRUH
💀💀💀
Yeah you're right. At the time I was basing it off the amount of times we slept but there were times we stayed awake multiple days before sleeping. I think it was actually around 1 week or so lol
Still a very short time
@@AzrialVanity It is probably at least 7 standard days (however long those are compared to Jarillo-VI's days), as that is the Express' standard stopping period.
If that's the case it's actually pretty simple to find out.
If you're playing the male MC and Kafka keeps calling Elio "HE" but calls Elio "SHE" if you play a female character that's all you need to know.
It was the same in FFXIV. While many players theorized long ago about it, THAT was the moment the theory was proven right without even saying it.
but.. Didn't they always call Elio he?
@@somenbything08 yeah Kafka always called Elio He.
@@somenbything08 Then either that's your hint that the theory is wrong or they deliberately misgender Elio to not make it too obvious 😂
@@Au_Ra804 it doesn't matter. It doesn't disprove anything. Elio was a man. Then he died. Then Kafka chooses an artificial body for him, Kafka chooses the gender of that body and puts Elio's data into it. It doesn't matter that Elio used to be a man. If he is the mc now, he is basically a new person with no memories of his past, so he can be male or female in his new body, he isn't supposed to remember anything. He is a blank page at this point. So it was Kafka's choice, which body to assign to him.
@@iamalienami good point I didn't think of that
Sad to say that this theory is impossible because we all know that Pom Pom is actually Elio
I can't believe you disproved it so easily 😢
I think Elio's consciousness was in the Stellaron and thats why the MC needs to have it inside them.
I heard another Theory. Of the MC is one of the two dead children from the commander of Honkai 3rd impact. This Theory is good too.
I’m so in love with Kafka
As you should be 😍
Great theory !
I'm glad you enjoyed!
unless the android can have heartbeat and pulse idk if the mc is an android since at the beginning dan heng says the mc pulse and hearthbeat is weak
Well, since the machine in the infirmary was unable to identify that Shiela was an android and thought she was a completely healthy human, then it could have done the same for us. Meaning that the android body itself is emulating normal health vitals.
Apparently Caelus is Aether's Son, and Stelle is Lumine's Daughter. However, Due to basic Science, and because M/M W/W, Stelle and Caelus were created by ether and Lumine as Vessels for Light. "Gods" (based off a quick google search lol but yeah the stellaron is like a ball of light and it’s inside the body of the mc’s (Stelle and caelus) technically meaning they are a vessel for light
At first i was like no way what a farfetched theory. But now Damn I have to admit that this is more reasonable than my own out there theory that we are the reincarnation of Akivili. 😅👍
What is Elio's end game?
First, wow, I did not realize HSR was already 8 months old. Dang, time flies.
I think Elio and the Stellaron hunters are ultimately good guys whose end goal is aligned with the Astral Express, the problem however, is that Elio's ability to see the future prevents them from being idealistic.
Let me put it like this. Elio foresees a future disaster and there's two roads ahead of him. Kafka can save a hundred people but her actions will ultimately result in millions dead. Or Kafka can kill a hundred people, but this action results in saving the lives of a million people.
To an outsider who doesn't understand or believe Elio can really see all future possibilities, Kafka's mass killing appears to be nothing more than the work of a psychopathic criminal, and they will never be able to make the connection that those hundred dead were necessary to save the millions of people, precisely because Elio's work ensured that those million were never killed, at the cost of his enforcers looking like monsters. While the Astral Express is free to be idealistic as they can only respond to events as they are happening, Elio and the Stellaron Hunters are forced to be cynical and pragmatic as Elio is capable of seeing the entire situation and what will happen if he tries to save everyone, or what will happen if he puts being a nice guy ahead of pragmatism.
What might seem like cold blooded callousness on the part of the Stellaron Hunters may simply be the reality that these actions are necessary for the best outcome. Silver Wolf and Kafka could have easily pushed back the Legion invasion of the space station. But they didn't. Even though that directly put the Trailblazer in danger by forcing them to confront the Doomsday Beast. So why didn't they do it?
Because Elio foresaw that Silver Wolf and Kafka pushing back the invasion, though on the surface appearing to be the best action, would cause irreparable harm by not allowing Trailblazer to catch Nanook's gaze and building that strong initial bond between 7th, Dan, Himeko and Trailblazer.
And so what this means is that the future Elio foresaw without his intervention was far worse than the future before his intervention.
I also find it interesting that everyone knows who Kafka and Silver Wolf are, with Kafka even having a bounty on her head from the IPC. But by the game's admission, even the IPC has no idea what Elio looks like. It would appear as though that, besides Elio, all the top brass of the Stellaron Hunters are known. And the top brass of the Stellaron Hunters all appear to be highly trusted associates of Elio... Except for one individual. The Trailblazer. Due to Kafka's connections to them, it's safe to assume that before being put in stasis and waking up as an amnesiac on the Herta Space Station, Trailblazer was likely also a member of the Stellaron Hunters. And surely a high ranking individual as well, after all, are you really going to trust some random, low level grunt with the power of a literally indestructible universe cancer god that routinely destroys planets for fun?
What if Trailblazer isn't an android. What if Trailblazer is actually the real Elio? Who foresaw that he could survive the implantation of the Stellaron into him but would lose his memories. The choice between Caelus and Stelle can be explained away as simply a gameplay quirk, especially with Mihoyo subtly pushing the idea that Stelle is the canonical Trailblazer. We could also explain away the Hunter's consistent use of male pronouns for Elio as something to throw off the scent of anyone looking for Elio. They would be looking for a man, not a young woman. This also explains why, despite apparently being a trustworthy enough associate to Elio to entrust with the power of an indestructible universe cancer god that routinely destroys planets for fun, literally nobody knows who Stelle is despite being a high ranking member of the Stellaron Hunters... Because Stelle is Elio and no one has ever seen Elio before so no one knows who Stelle is either.
Of course, all the evidence for Stelle and Elio being the same person is circumstantial, but I think you're onto something. At the very least, we know that before the events of the game, Stelle was a member of the Stellaron Hunters, and was likely a high ranking member who managed to keep their identity unknown and Elio trusted them enough to infuse them with the power of an indestructible universe cancer god that routinely destroys planets for fun.
> And surely a high ranking individual as well, after all, are you really going to trust some random, low level grunt with the power of a literally indestructible universe cancer god that routinely destroys planets for fun?
Yes, afterall, if he can see the future, he can select appropriate "materials" or "humans" or "bodies" or "randos" and entrust them with it. That logic doesn't add up especially since you went on about the pragmatism aspect. You have to keep it all the way.
At the same time, given the "sci-fi" theme. The MC could just be a clone body -> similar to how otto made clones of sirin as kiana, himself, fu hua or the "other kaslana" he simped for till he died. And then we just picked the "sim" or "clone" to awaken. My expectation however is for the gender of our character to not be relevant to the story as a whole, but only made it this way for the players to get some "customization option" and "get attached" to their character.
The same way it doesn't matter if you're a boy or a girl, Pokemon plays the same. But it still asks you if you want a boy or girl character
Honkai Impact lore buffs have even wilder theory:
"Elio is Captain of Hyperion"
This particular theory is to be highly considered, considering Captain of Hyperion once tried to save so many "misfits" to became his Hyperion crew members, he ended up overused his multiverse-travelling powers to the point of his consciousness fractured and splits into multiple alter egos, one of his fragmented consciousnesses being the Ferryman, with the Original Captain as "Mr Assassin" in both few-known "Honkai Three Kingdoms" events back in June 2019 to early 2020 being the original driver of Captain of Hyperion's consciousnesses and also the largest conscious fragments of OG Captain
And the nature of Captain of Hyperion also mentioned further in FR Rita battlesuit design documentary video of a designer/programmer lore-wise mentions Captain with Rita to be entities of "Higher Order" and mind you, said design doc video released in the middle of 2020, around a month prior to Genshin Impact even released worldwide, Mihoyo is cooking something huge regarding Aeons in the grand scheme of Mihoyo's "hoyoverse", with Captain of Hyperion might be emanator of one of the older Aeons, if not being among of the disappearing Aeons together with Rita too, and knowing of how main inspirations of Mihoyo games' cosmology to be inspired by "Gnosticism", Aeons comes in pairs called "Syzygy", much like how Captain and Rita is, especially OG Honkai Impact veterans knows the relationship, nature, feats and potentiality of journey of Captain with Rita pretty much being his consort to acts inside the grander Cosmological systems of Mihoyo games
yhea thats what i actually theorized too
would also explain his clayvorance because he could have already seen the events happen like the timeloop stuff in "The Day You Vanished with the Stars"
I had this same idea about elio, adding that he is the aeon of trailblazing.
Nanook gives the MC the blessing of destruction for not recognizing the MC at first, but later he remembers who the real MC is and nearly kills him in the simulated universe.
My guess is that elio had the blessings of all the aeons, so no wonder he made a plan to revive him if one of the aeons killed him, since elio, the aeon of remembrance would have such an ability to see Future and past.
At the start, if you choose to say "Who are you?" to Kafka, the screen blurs a bit and Kafka will look kind of in a offended and surprised, then she says to Silver Wolf "I thought you said he/she will remember me?" to which Silver Wolf replies, "Maybe you're not as important as you think."
i was thinking of this while playing the current web event and decided to look up theory vids
me and my friends think MC is probably one of the hunters but this is an angle on it we hadn't thought of lol
Honestly I think all the stellaron hunters are like us. Receptacles with a stellaron inside.
I just read one of SW’s “annoyance” voice lines that says “no one should be able to open an alt account, not even elio” 👀👀
What if Stelle turn back in time and thats why Ellio know what is going to happend
If we are Ellio
Honestly, i think the kafka rescue quest put a big hole in this theory after bladie gave us some backstory on our mc.
I cannot believe this is your first theory, it just makes so much sense djshsh
I think Elio’s plan is to get us to draw the gaze of all of the other Aeons and in turn gain enough power to be able to defeat Nanook or to awaken our power as the reincarnation of Akivili (but not die this time)
So the game has been launched and kafka mentioned that astral express crew is gonna take out the Nanook. What do you think about this? I also thought Stelle/Caelus could be the 5th Stellaron Hunter if not the Elio himself.
I'm probably going to make a video on it but I believe that we will face off against Terminus the Finality instead of Nanook.
Like Kafka said, Elio does not tell her everything that way the plan goes as needed. And in the Simulated Dev logs from herta she mentions that the Finality and Destruction path are very similar.
I could see Finality colliding with destruction and absorbing them, causing us to face off with them instead
@@AzrialVanity I don't have any evidence since there is literally no information going on about Elio but I think Elio is dead and got killed by the Nanook. He saw his inescapable end so he tried to pull of something
@@AzrialVanity I don't think that the finality could absorb the destruction, because even though Nanook can destroy solar systems in a matter of seconds if he wanted to, Fuli, the remembrance, could still reconstruct them, and so Nanooks destruction isn't final, and so it isn't in line with Terminus, because for something to be final it has to be irreversible, such as the destruction of the Memokeepers, as an example, because they rely on the memories of others to exist, so if everyone forgot that the Memokeepers existed they would basically die and stop existing, that would be more in line with what the finality stands for
Of course Fuli could just restore them, but if he were to also die due to some reason then it would be final
Though if that is the case then the destruction and the finality would coincide enough for them to fuse… well, I guess we just have to see then
This theory is so cool 🤩
Is this just my feeling or the opening story of Honkai Star Rail is a bit like Star Wars K.O.T.O.R If Mihoyo is inspired by that game then MC is not Elio but Elio's acquaintance, maybe like Elio's master
Ahh i really like your theory ❤❤❤but my only question is which gender of the MC correlates with the storyline?
That's a very good question I'm not really sure actually. They actively use both gender in trailers and marketing, so maybe both is "canon" and it's just like a timeline thing?
It doesn't matter.
The only playthrough that matters is your own. And nothing indicates this will be like Genshin(where it still doesn't matter who you pick)
Tbh you can just see the mc as “they” and thats it no gender. The aeons are all they. And with not knowing who the MC was before.. they could be an aeon.. who knows.
I think elio's end goal was mentioned when you interrogate kafka at the xianzhou, which is the defeat of nanook
WOW! Great video! Thx!
I think, if this was true, that the reason elio was able to predict stuff down to the second is bc he is an advanced AI. The trailblazer is just the body the AI used. When the stelleron was put into the body of the trailblazer it retained the personality of elio, being a little cold but still human like, and some of the trace of some memories. Which is why the trailblazer knows kafkas name but doesn’t REALLY know her. I also think the reason the trailblazer was set on the path of the nameless is bc it’s HEAVILY implied that many of the nameless are blessed by akavili in one particular way. Luck. We see this specifically with one of the previous members of the nameless, bai heng, the foxian memeber of the high cloud quintet. We know that she was formerly nameless and was also blessed with great luck. We see members like the trailblazer, Dan heng, and March 7th also exhibit signs of this luck. The best example is at the end of the belabog story mission where we literally see the MC almost DIE just to be saved and take down a character who literally should not be beatable by a rag tag group. We see this in Dan heng as when he’s facing off against blade he is able to bring out his power and is saved by his previous incarnations power which he himself is implied to have almost no idea how to use. It’s also very possible that march 7th was put on the path of the nameless by the followers of remembrance who we know she has connections to and who are trying to keep her memories away from her as to keep her on the path of the nameless. Perhaps the aeons know something big is happening and putting people on the path of the nameless in order to guarantee a good outcome as their warriors will have the blessing of akavili. We also know that Dan heng, the MC, AND March 7th all have memory loss which might have something to do with their connection to the upcoming conflict. I think it’s bc each aeon needs someone that has ties to them in order to guarantee loyalty to that aeon but obviously if they are TOO loyal to an aeon other than akavili they won’t want to become nameless which is why they all had their memories and past hidden from them as to not tempt them off the path of the trailblazer too early
Heya, after doing Kafka's companion mission and seeing the first time she meets Trailblazer, Kafka says "Listen". Meaning she's using her power the first time we boot up on character select. I think that's a really interesting thing since she's persuading us with her powers from the get-go.
Honestly, I thought that the MC could be the reincarnation of Akivili's mortal self. That Stellerons aren't just sources of immense power, but actually shards of the souls of fallen aeons.
Plus, that Elio needs the Astral Express (or Galaxy Express 999... please let this be a thing, I need Pirate Queen Esmeraldas to exist in this universe), ahem, to ride again so that he can thwart the future that he foresaw that ended in disaster.
Plus, I also believe that Elio is Welt. Since it's heavily implied that Welt is from the Honkai: Impact universe and is trying to prevent the tragedies that took place there.
Why would Nanook have souls of powerful entities to ruin worlds?
Who says Nanook is the one manipulating the Stellerons?
As we have seen, humans are more then capable of manipulating and placing Stellerons on their own.
@@sleeperboy221 Read the data bank of Stellarons. Its created by Nanook to destroy galaxies.
@@Doflaminguard Still doesn't answer, what is a Stellaron.
Ok elio es el prota MC y kafka la reina umu me gusta kafka queen!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I'm curious what happen if we using Elio as MC name? 😂
In russian translation characters always use she to speak with main character. May be it's not just translation problem
Good theory!
Terminus isn't a reference to a planet from the book I Robot, from Isaac Asimov? haha
Oh wow thank you for reminding me that it was Kafka that put the Stelleron in the MC
I find it very strange how this theory still makes somewhat sense, even with the more we have learned since the beta.
Just saw some clips of the new Kafka mission. Even Blade remembers you and says that Kafka and you have been on missions together. If the Trailblazer is not Elio then most likely he/she was a Stellaron Hunter with Kafka in the past. maybe we even got a deal with Elio as well.
It sort of makes sense that Herta can see other Aeons since she’s also an Emenator of Nouse if I remember correctly
Kafka:” you’re about to lose ELIO TOLD ME”
Trailblazer is aeon
Elio is caelus/stelle same with abbys order is lumine/aether
Did she read the script where i would sped hours at the simulated universe
There is a side quest ,i dont know what mission it is but , she said that he seen the mc following kafka in a mission, it means that the mc knows kafka in the first scene in the ship because they already team up in either one or a lot of missions by elio. Guys help me confirm this because I already forgot about the mission.
Elio is with the Stellaron Hunters and they are still talking face-to-face, like in Silverwolf's trailer.
Holy shit I didn't consider this but it seems possible
Elio is an unseen character (save by possibly Kafka). In the truth/lies game you can arrange it so that you know Kafka's information about Trailblazer's origin was a lie (clone body, no soul, no past, etc, that's all nonsense). Fuli calls you Elio in Simulated Universe. Blade mentions you've been running with Kafka for years. Kafka mentions Elio's "script", implying that Elio wrote down the path to true success against Nanook, and is not just prognosticating in real-time. I think it's going to end up being correct that Elio/Trailblazer are one and the same.
My theory is that he is Akivili lol
This has become a very popular idea and 100% back it too lol
There has been a ton of evidence pointing and suggesting that is the case, I may make a video on it down the road
@@AzrialVanity I would very much watch out for that upcoming video of yours sir.
I been said this when I was doing the story. It was confirmed for me on the Luofu. Also it was revealed when captured Kafka is that the end goal is to kill Nanook. You know what confirms that theory? The memory bubbles left on the space station. Nanook has been sending the anti matter legion all over the galaxy to destroy everything. I mean the stellaron is of his creation. The memory bubbles on the space stations are memories of past civilizations destroyed by them.
So, I think you're on the right track, but I think there's a few things missing from the theory... Or rather... Concepts... That could have been overlooked.
I don't believe Ellio was an Emanator so much as that he was a mortal who, at a young age came into contact with the Aeon of Finality, Terminus. Terminus' prophecies may be obscure to most, but to an impressionable teenager, which I'll explain why I think he was a teenager when this encounter happened in a moment, it was something that left a very large mark on his remaining years.
As I said, teenager, BECAUSE we know that Mihoyo, or Hoyoverse takes a lot of inspiration from certain Gainax anime products, the most notable being Neon Genesis (Shin Seiki) EVANGELION, which left a NOTICEABLE mark in HI3.
The Aeon Xipe AND Kevin's Stigma Project are literally the will of the Third Impact from EVANGELION, and Herrscher of Reason battlesuit in HI3 LITERALLY has color schemes for the main 3 Eva units, and Asuka was obtainable in an early Collab in game.
In EVANGELION, it's explained that only teenagers can be Eva pilots because teenagers are more likely to produce psychic wavelengths than they would ever be able to maintain as adults, and Asuka is literally kept at a teenager physicality in the rebuilds over a DECADE later just so she'd be able to pilot EVA 02.
So, when I say Ellio had an encounter, I believe that encounter caused the Aeon's memories to flash through his head, leaving the curse of knowing every path the future could possibly take engraved into his mind.
As his life waned, he was burdened by the knowledge that his body was unable to contain enough power to be able to stave off the Finality of the universe at the hands of Nanook, so he began observing the actions happening in the universe as a means to try to figure out which timeline he was a part of, how much time was left, and to write scripts for the various futures that could come to be.
As events happened, he could further narrow down which branch of the tree the timeline was following an fine-tuned the script to the point that, should he pass away, everything would still come to be as planned.
In the time he wasn't writing scripts, which was most likely done via a thought to text interface, he intentionally sought out individuals he could use as pawns to push things through, a mysterious woman with the motifs of a black widow, a deranged warrior from the Xianzhou, a reality hacker from Punklorde, and a Brawler from who knows where.
And when the script was complete, he sealed his mind. The main character is a vessel he prepared to house the powers that would be necessary to fight Nanook, and the reason the Stellaron was needed was because it was the only power source that would be able to sustain the body he needed, whilst stabilizing the energy the vessel would go on to inherit from the blessings of the Aeon's.
And I DONT believe it's a coincidence that the Trailblazer is able to change path, because I believe that is the power that Ellio saw would be needed. The power to break free from any given path, the power to break free from the line that led to the destruction of the universe.
Which, yes, likely means that the Trailblazer will at one point be able to change to all seven current paths, with potentially more coming in the future.
Ellio is using the body ingrained with his will, but not his memories, to fight a war he himself just did not have the aptitude to ever manage to do.
And I'm going to assume that Ellio's main body looks like an elderly version of the Yanqing stigmata from HI3, crossed with Siegfried Kaslana.
This is just a theory though.... A STAR RAIL THEORY. Lol.
Also, and I can't believe I forgot to address this one subject... The lack of memory was likely INTENTIONAL, and probably for the same reason that Dr Strange gave Tony for not telling him what needs to happen to bring about the one scenario that ensures victory over Thanos, because if the Trailblazer KNOWS it won't come to be.
Especially since most people scoff at being told that something is fate, or predetermined, and would go out of their way to avoid obeying a script that they believe would end in total destruction unless they, somehow, become the miracle the universe needs.
Most people would think "well, if the universe depends on me, we're kinda f#cked, so..." And then either not give enough effort, or trying to act in defiance, which aren't things you need when you need someone to follow a script.
So... Ellio denied answers to the Trailblazer to keep them on the path, and Kafka is meant to be the one forever dangling the carrot before the horse (answers), to keep the Nameless on the path that leads to salvation rather than destruction for all of existence.
I thought there were leaks about Kafka training MC and he/she and Kafka share same dna
I’m with your theory so far, but I think the main character is more of a cybernetic clone like a mix between android and organic machine.
Because the main character can eat sleep and survive, getting well nearly destroyed because a normal human would not survive getting blasted, then shish kebab by icicle. by the bosses.
Okay it must have already been said, but « terminus » in french is the end of a train track…
holy shit that would make almost some sense?
My theory, and mind you its very basic and barebones, is that the MC is an aspect of Nanook brought to the past by Elio. This comes from you talking about him possibly being an Emanator of Terminus. If we go by the description of Terminus, he is an Aeon that moves from the future to the past. This means Terminus knows how the future looks like and in turn Elio would too considering he would have equal powers.
In turn, the MC and Nanook look strikingly similar. Eyecolor, haircolor, general neutral although slightly intimidating demeanor and even their colorscheme (apart from skincolor). And most importantly: Both walk the path of Destruction right of the bat.
My theory is that Nanook from the future was entrapped by Terminus somehow, changed and transformed into an aspect of himself. Then brought back to the past in order to reshape history. Afterall, Elio seeks to create the best possible future he can envision. Elio doesnt follow a script unlike everyone else. He writes the script activly. Because he knows what already happened and knows just when to push in a few alterations that in the grand scheme of things dont matter too much to break reality but still alter it enough to cause a change.
Another way it could go that something happened that would end up killing Nanook which would lead to a far greater disaster. And so his body, lifeless as it is, was taken back. Already knowing Kafka by this point as she likely was present when the Aeon was killed he is now revived as the new form he was given by Elio. The rest of the above about Elio writing the script would still apply.
Did you already have, like the clue of Elio's end goal? I can see that this is a well-thought out theory from 8 months ago and I would like to point out that Elio had set the MC up to fight Nanook.
If we choose the bad ending, we know that both the Stellaron Hunters and Astral Express died, while we end up being a researcher after Herta lost interest on us.
So, what if Elio's goal is to become the strongest in the universe🤔 he will make us fight many different Aeons and in the end, try to possess us of some sort? But we have our own consciousness and try to fight him in the end? I don't know man
But actually, I kinda believe in Elio's android version more, because we're in the Herta Space Station. They invaded the station just to find a stellaron and we just so happened to be in Silver Wolf's inventory?
No way man. Why would they go all the way to Herta Space Station just to get a stellaron that can be found everywhere? And from what I see, Herta and Kafka has some beef going on with each other, so I think that Herta stole us from the Stellaron Hunters and decided that we are compatible to be a Stellaron vessel and stored us beside it. She kept us there in order to research us and find out their secrets, but then they invaded the station to stop her from doing that.
I got this because there's a puppet stationed in where we were first found. These are all just speculations to be honest.
terminus is dead, how could elio be an emanator of terminus if terminus cant lend him his power
As far as I am aware, Terminus is not dead. Do you remember where you saw that?
@@AzrialVanity i think in one of the devlogs about Nanook (i might be tweaking tho)
My theory is this. Y'all remember that Aeons are not "gods"; they're humans / creatures / things whose knowledge or ilumination was so grand that they 'ascended' to Aeons. Yes, they're perceived as deities by the people, but they're not in fact gods.
Having this in mind, and considering Akivili is "disappeared" (or deceased), I'm positive that MC might reach this level of 'ilumination' that Akivili possessed. That's to say, MC might be the new Aeon of Trailblazing.
And it's actually plausible rather than reincarnations or baseless theories. What do y'all think?
In terms of what they are setting up in the story, that is 100% what they are setting up. The evidence is pretty substantial in terms of us being at least connected to Akivili in some way, shape, or form.
Theories are just for fun, though, cause they are simply Theories. This video was originally going to be about the mc being Akivili, but at the time of the recording (second beta), there was not enough evidence
Omg bro is cooking
I'm intrigued 🤔
idk why i found Horizontal shish kebab quite funny-
Imagine if Elio is the Stellaron in the MC and it communicated with Kafka
silver wolf trailer....
This theory reminded me of MGSV ngl
He uh, killed us one time in the simulated universe : ) (Elio|Nanook whatever)
YEAH! Nanook killed us in the Simulated Universe almost on sight lol
Ok, I have Realized that my name was in Honkai Star Rail 💀
Could Elio be, The Kanchou?