Can Paul BEAT The Masters 8?
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2023
- Can Paul BEAT The Masters 8? FT @VeeVolt
Today, we'll see if Paul has what it takes to beat The Masters 8 from Pokemon Journeys, and we'll go through all of his Strengths, Weaknesses, and Accomplishments to see how many Pokemon Champions he can beat
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Do you agree with our choices? Which Masters 8 Trainers do you think Paul beats? 👀👑
If he could hold his own against one of them, he can definitely beat a majority of them
Plus he had a point when he battled Ash before. If Ash was struggling against Paul so much, there was absolutely no way he would win the tournament. Heck, he probably wouldn't be able to beat Iris or Alain, much less anybody else with how much he was being pushed against the ropes
He could beat Lance, Steven, Iris, Alain And Diantha
@@eljordinio7647It’s kind of amazing how Paul went from Ash’s most bitter rival to ironically his biggest supporter as far as trainers go. Paul played the biggest role in supporting Ash for the tournament.
Paul’s training was exactly what Ash needed to prepare for the Masters 8. Not just getting his Pokémon fired up, but also actually prepared. They managed to harness more of their inner strengths and learn new moves and skills thanks to their battle with him and the pressure he put on them. Some of those moves and abilities ultimately ended up as instrumental in Ash defeating certain Champions’ Pokémon.
An Instagram post summed it up perfectly. Rivalry isn’t your enemy, it’s partnership in disguise.
@@jakandratchet9930 I have to agree
The battle with Paul gave Lucario a stab priority move which was definitely better to have on him than steel beam (shame Cynthia didn't use Max mindstorm cos Togekiss was getting clapped by bullet punch)
Dragonite actually tried out a new use of Draco Meteor that really paid off against Leon and gave her some much needed redemption
Plus Gengar having will-o-wisp really helped out against Steven, even tho Aggron should not have fallen to burn damage
@@eljordinio7647that would've been crazy if she did that. Realistically she would've won the battle if she did that if we're using game logic which the masters 8 tournament mostly went off by. The writers just wanted ash to win
Another thing about diantha you forgot to mention about diantha is that her battle style changes with each and every Pokémon she uses, making her highly unpredictable hence why her unpredictability stat is so high
If I had to guess Diantha's battle style with her Hawlucha & Tyrantrum because we never got to see them (as well as Journeys made a lot of game reference parallels for the Masters 8 for both pokemon selection & movepool), I'm betting with her Hawlucha she utilized Hawlucha's dance attacks like Swords Dance or Feather Dance in its fight and then went into heavy power battling with Tyrantrum (especially since Diantha's Tyrantrum actually beat Leon's Dragapult)
I actually think Diantha's fast style changes would be a great foil to Paul. I definitely feel it they would each be down to their last Pokemon, but ultimately, Diantha would emerge victorious.
@@dandeleon2764 my thoughts exactly
Yeah she took off all her clothes in mine randomly but I would ngl.
And she got bodied by Rillaboom
I always hated the idea of Leon allegedly being the "greatest trainer in the world." The writers tried so hard to force that idea down our throats, and it felt disrespectful to the likes of Cynthia, Steven, and Diantha. Cynthia doesn't need any explanation, but in the anime, Steven's Metagross wrestled with the likes of Mega Rayquaza and Primal Groudon, and Diantha's Gardevoir was putting in work against Zygarde. That's without mentioning the sheer disrespect to Alain, whose Charizard has fought primals, legendaries, and so much more. It's hard for me to accept that Leon is just that far ahead of them.
Leon's opponents took dives for money, and Ash was the only one who couldn't be bribed.
i love how people were acting like cynthia also wasn't needlessly hyped up in her own season. like her "unbeatable" garchomp who pretty much swept paul. i feel like all the hype around her comes from everyone being dumb kids and playing gen 4 blind. nowadays she's easy as shit. hell even GOU could beat cynthia if he put his mind to it. leon was hyped up in the journeys season because it was the WORLD tournament, not just a regional league. he's the world champ. get over it.
@@spaciebun Yeah, she is pretty easy in Pt, but she's definitely still tough if you're doing a challenge run, especially in DP or BDSP. I don't think Gou could defeat her though. He's consistently shown to be awful at battling.
@@spaciebun Gou can't fight his way out of a paper bag, let alone Gary, and you think he could beat Cynthia? And we all know why Cynthia was easy for you, you over leveled your Pokemon before you reached her. Everybody knows the strat. Always that weirdo trying to be unique.
That's because they *had* to fight legendaries in the climax of their *own* region with the main character. Leon's thing is that he is the best combatant, and his team is also pretty good in *his* series. In fact I would say that fighting this other champion legends, is the equivalent of fighting legendaries in their own unique timeline/series.
Leon is what ash was supposed to be. He has all the starters of his region , the pseudo legendary of his region, and his ace is massively popular starter from the original series and games. Ash had to transcend and become better than the best through his legacy and...all his journeys. Hence Pokemon Journeys.
Leon is the undefeated champion he needs to be OP to justify his strength. It is clear he is in a league of his own from the battle with Diantha.
Another thing about diantha is that she can immediately take control of the field if she wants even Cynthia herself acknowledged that in her battle against lance.
We need to realise that Diantha and Gardevoir is the best trainer Pokémon combination. They communicate with their eyes and seemingly control each others emotions. It’s the undisputed best communication of all trainers with Iris Haxorus and Ash Pikachu being behind her
But for some reason, their bond isn't highlighted in the match just so that they can give air time to the lost kid. If it was a whole episode of Leon vs Diantha, Mega Gardevoir might dance around and dodge max moves.
Sounds like N
@@thefearlessone2649 they should’ve made Diantha vs Leon two episodes. Maybe ending halfway through the first. It’s just that the rest of her team ain’t too strong.
@@geki4269 the battle should have been a 6v6 where Diantha takes out atleast 4 pokemon, instead get 3 recaps in a row give us 1 episode of Ash and Cynthia backstory while the other 2 Diantha vs Leon
My Diantha vs Leon:
Hawlucha vs Dragapult
Dragapult wins
Dragapult vs Tyrantrum
Tyrantrum wins
Rillaboom defeats Tyrantrum and Gourgeist
Aurorus defeats Rillaboom
Cinderace switches against Aurorus
Leon should have had Aegislash, So Aegislash vs Aurorus, Aurorus loses
Goodra vs Aegislash
Aegislash loses
Mr rime was goodra
Goodra loses
Gardi vs Mr Rime
Mr rime loses
Gmax Char vs Mega Gard
Ending: base char vs mega gard
Charizard wins.
@@thefearlessone2649 They did Diantha so dirty. We all knew she would lose to Leon but the writers were outright cruel, almost like they had a personal vendetta against her. They should have had Diantha take out at least 4 Pokemon first, including Gigantamax Charizard. Mega Gardevour should have proven that it wasn't unbeatable before going down.
For Ash let's not forget that his pikachu is on another level compared to diamond and pearl. Ash pikachu was a menace in masters 8 and that was the reason Cynthia wanted to get rid of him early. Pikachu just has some amazing feats
If he could hold his own against one of them, he could definitely beat a majority of them.
Plus (Brandon had a point when he battled Ash before. If Ash was struggling against evil Paul so much, there was absolutely a way he would win the tournament. Heck, he probably would be able to beat Iris or Alain, much less anybody else with how much he was being pushed against the ropes or lines. Eljoindo user is still half wrong.
Back when ash greninja wasn’t mastered, the battle with diantha was when it was at its strongest, with clement stating, “these are the strongest yet”. The waves were so strong it got the water shuriken on its back. In ash’s second battle against Alain the waves weren’t nearly as strong and greninja knocked down charizard,and charizard didn’t seem to be getting up either.
It would be wild if Paul had an ursaluna. Ash could even ask how he has a Pokémon like that, and he blows him off, and then they show a small flash back of idda ring evolving in hisui. Of course arceus would pick Paul to save the world, he even has other Pokémon from that region
That would be interesting to say though. A lot of people felt like they would give it to Paul since his powerful Ursaring is very iconic. The only thing in my opinion would be that literally first impression-wise when they revealed Ursaluna in Legends was that some people saw its evolution as a sad & depressed looking Ursaring; plus given Paul's movepool & fighting style that he has for his Ursaring has a hard time in my head being portrayed onto an Ursaluna
Paul knocking out Volo 👊 after their battle despite Volo towering over him in size and almost looking like a Greek God. I wish we did that in PLA showing how surving out in the Wild turned us into a badass. Pokemon Legends: First Blood. Lol.
Paul breaks the screens with Brick Break in round 4
I have to disgree
The battle with Paul gave Lucario a stab priority move which was definitely better to have on him than steel beam (shame Cynthia did use Max Mindstorm cos Togekiss was getting clapped by a bullet punch)
Dragonite actually tried out a new use of Draco Meteor that really paid off against Leon and gave her or him some much-needed redemption
Plus Gengar having will-o-wisp really helped out against Steven or Leon.
Paul would not compete without a special ability and with that Paul would be DANGEROUS like VERY dangerous
He is creep and evil.
@@Gadget-Walkman18mi-ez3td yep.
Right-O.
24:28 Paul in the sinnoh league took down Ash’s Gliscor by having Electivire use thunder on the field to make a pseudo rock slide. If that is not using the field and on the fly thinking, then I don’t know what is.
I guess what comes down to it would be depending on Paul's members of who he would end up using against the champs'.
Pokemon Mezastar could sorta help in showing all the champs' teams as it actually did hint on other pokemon members before the tourney eps happened (biggest ex. was Leon's Mr. Rime), so they might've been factual. And I think it's fine if some pokemon are repeated as another name for the Masters 8 could be called the Tournament to End All Dragonites. As well as Journeys made a lot of game reference parallels for the Masters 8 from both pokemon selection & movepool. So for the champs' teams (minus ash's since we already know):
- For starters like Iris we only know she has 5 pokemon, so her 6th could actually be a Hydreigon (Mezastar); in which I wish they did so that Journeys could show some form of Champion Iris (I know a lot of people were fans of champ iris happening, but honestly the way they portrayed her return made iris still feel like the same BW Iris who the anime made her lean towards becoming gym leader. I mean in the tourney iris literally bet everything on Horn Drill. Everything else after the battle & then against ash only made her shine in her growth was thanks to Haxorus; which was obvious from the start because it's her Partner Pokemon, Her Ace; so of course it'd be OP)
- For Alain's team it might've done better if they didn't give him Malamar as it got swept so easily as at least Chesnaught & Charizard did good. I will forever hate how Journeys portrayed Alain to the end now; they should've just gotten another trainer to lose to Leon that would've done the same effect & we would've been fine with losing... Like Tobias!!!!!
- Since they made Lance be Champ of Kanto & Johto, the very least they could've done was give him a Johto Pokemon to his dragon army like Kingdra. As for the other members I would've suggested Aerodactyl as that's also staple in most of his team & Mezastar also hinted him with a Lapras which could be under the same pretense too. And I never realized this but I forgot that Hyper Beam is Lance's signature move for most of his pokemon throughout all game version appearances of him
- Steven's team has Metagross, Aggron, & Cradily (technically 4 with his Aron), but I can imagine the rest of his team with Skarmory, Armaldo, & Claydol since Steven has official art with his Full Team (although Mezastar also shows him with an Aerodactyl)
- I'm fine with Diantha's team, but I curse those 2 little kids that made us miss half of her full battle against Leon. I'm betting with her Hawlucha she utilized its dance attacks like Swords Dance or Feather Dance, and then Diantha would go heavy power battling with Tyrantrum (esp. since Tyrantrum beat Leon's Dragapult)
- I'm also fine with Cynthia's team; although it would've been cool to see her fight with Kommo-o And would be awesome to see a Champion-level Eeveelution battle with her Glaceon
- The anime did portray Leon to being similar to our protagonist, and what's more like Ash Ketchum than having all 3 Starter Pokemon of said current region (albeit Leon one-upped him by doing better than Ash by fully evolving his starters)
No not at all he is getting stopped at Cynthia or Steven
But in Journeys a lot of the champions were nerfed.
Cynthia didn't have Sandstorm, or brick break for some reason
They forgot Diantha doesn't need to communicate verbally with her Gardivor
And Alain was just done super dirty they just forgot Mega Zard X was the strongest Mega in terms of stats and isn't a legendary
Y'all down played Iris as well she could have easily beaten Ash in their battle because she was the one that gave Ash's Dragonite the confidence to battle because his Dragonite was emotional unstable. Plus she only lost cause conveniently they blew the roof off the stadium and it allowed Dragonite to strike Haxorus with maximum power of draco if I remember correctly.
Iris Haxorus is a pretty impressive ace being that it put out as much power as Cynthia's mega Garchomp only losing to the strongest Dragon move from the 2nd best trainer in the world's strongest Pokemon
DP really portrayed Cynthia & Garchomp with its strongest moveset of just Draco Meteor, Dragon Rush, & Brick Break (which even extended to BW). Garchomp definitely could've been even more OP in battling in the M8 though if it knew a Ground-type attack
@@GreyLeo I mean it's not like Ash's Dragonite was dealing with that instability intensely or for a long time though. She was more just overwhelmed when fighting against Iris's Dragonite as he's a brawler; he loves to starting a fight with anyone. And I mean what were people expecting from the strength of Iris & Haxorus, he's her partner pokemon, her signature, her ace; the two have been through a lot together in the anime so it makes sense that their development up to his reappearance would show his dreamed of prowess.
(I know a lot of people were fans of champ iris happening, but honestly the way they portrayed her return made iris still feel like the same BW Iris who the anime made her lean towards becoming gym leader. I mean in the tourney iris literally bet everything on Horn Drill. Everything else after the battle & then against ash only made her shine in her growth was thanks to Haxorus; which was obvious from the start because it's her Partner Pokemon, Her Ace; so of course it'd be OP)
@@GreyLeohaxorus was cleanly choreograped for that battle
@@GreyLeoI agree, Steven should of been abit higher in the order Alain should be lower. I honestly think Paul would beat Alain bearly but that's his limit.
I personally think diantha destroys both paul and alain
Yeah.. True, Diantha is most underrated champion. Also goes to Cynthia I feel she should have won the tournament..(No hate for Ash) If you think carefully she has been their way before Leon and was champion when Ash was just a trainer, & if you consider her team, her team has the most balance Statistics. Without plot armor nor Ash or leon would have won against her.. She had trump card because of sprittoumb by using him she could have eliminated Leon's charizard, just like she did with pikachu. If leon and Cynthia would have battle first, No one would have guess she had that under her belt. I love ash as antagonist but Cynthia was born champion for me...the writes just made them lose their charm just to glorify Ash😅.. Both Diantha and Cynthia where introduce to us like Ultimate champion and all of sudden leon appeared and writer just rushed to finish screen time of this beautiful female characters😅
No, Alain mega Charizard can beat diantha mega gardervior but mega x Charizard is the most powerful Pokemon. But why diantha 's gardervior lost against Leon gmax Charizard.
I agree diantha can beat Paul,
Alain mega x Charizard 's blast burn or flame thrower can destroy diantha 's mega gardervior 's moonblast move ..
DIANTHA is pathetic Alain and Paul would DESTROY DIANTHA
That’s just in my opinion but I guess if that’s what you see I guess sure but this is my opinion so I am not going to disrespect this comment
@@pravinpanchal_wildlifeartPlot armor? Ash has almost no Plot armor, hell,It's more that he has Anti plot armor than plot armor
In XYZ charizard nearly lost to greninja when the ash greninja bond phenomenon waves weren’t, back shuriken levels, while gardivoir got up almost immediately after getting hit the giant water shuriken
Paul is and will always be the undisputed GOAT
One of the best the to ever do it!🙌🏾
The uncrowned champion
@@AuraZora bro is saying paul team lack raw strength but when you realize the fact that Paul torretara surpassed
Lucian bronzong, Bertha hippowdown and aron draphion in start of sinnoh arc. End of sinnoh arc torretara would be on par with flint infernape. And current torretara should be on par with Cynthia mega garchomp
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Never forget Paul’s roasts in DP🤣
or it could be type evil nor, diverse.
hmm.
Yeah, Paul is extremely cut throat when it comes to battling, and is probably the best strategist in the entire series. He can also quickly analyze other trainer’s battle styles and improve on them as well. Unless you just straight up overpower him, or do unconventional shit like Ash does regularly, you are completely screwed.
Cynthia would be the only trainer in the series that would have a case for being more skilled than Paul. I've never been sold on Iris "overpowering" Paul and being way above him.
It's not like all the trainers in the Masters 8 are all equal and if most peoplehad to pick from the M8 on who the weakest championis it wouldhave to be Iris.
In a battle against Paul her best chance at winning would be in a 1 on 1 but a 3 on 3 or a full battle I'm giving it to Paul.
@@rashadameen1923 I mean the Masters 8 were ranked for a reason. Considering what we saw, I thought the rankings were pretty accurate. I don’t see Paul beating Ash, Leon, Cynthia, or Steven. I think with the right strategy, he can beat the others pretty easily. If I’m not mistaken, I believe Paul has at least one Pokémon of each type as well. So he’s extremely versatile.
If he could hold his own against one of them, he could definitely beat a majority of them.
Plus (Brandon had a point when he battled Ash before. If Ash was struggling against Paul so much, there was absolutely a way he would win the tournament. Heck, he probably would be able to beat Iris or Alain, much less anybody else with how much he was being pushed against the ropes or lines. Eljoindo user is still half wrong and literally a pathetic narrow-minded freak!!!
No, he loses easily to any of the competitors lmao
I respect your opinion.
@jeemiahedwardiii6857 I don't. He'll will be able to beat everyone to Steven.
He won't be able to beat Cynthia, Leon, or Ash tho.
@@tonygrace565 You're crazy overrating Paul, he ain't a champion for a reason
@@natalimoina Yea, cause he doesn't care about being a champion in the first place. We also see Paul has new pokemon, meaning he has been traveling and getting stronger.
@@tonygrace565 NAH.
My bro! Fantastic discussion in this video! I loved the points you made and I can definitely agree that Paul doesn’t beat Ash & Leon but can beat Cynthia if he really wants it
In some ways I think Paul l’s adaptability might surpass ash in some ways. He definitely can’t beat ash or Leon. But he sometimes doesn’t even use moves for his strategies. A classic is how electivire always raps pikachu with his wires to prevent it from moving or starapter being slammed into the ground to get the poison effects of the toxic spikes.
Paul is definitely as scary as Cynthia if he wants to be!
Roh he can't even beat ires talking about sintya
That ash bearly won
That ash bearly won
Nah, I don't even think he beats Steven. Paul stated he failed to beat Cynthia with what can be assumed to be the same team Ash fought in Journeys. Plus Steven's bad showing in Journeys shouldn't detract from his overall strength, in the Mega Evo series he and Alain were fighting Primal Kyogre and Groudon and Steven wasn't even doing too bad for fighting some of the most powerful pokemon on the planet. I believe Paul can be/is competitive with Diantha/Alain simply due to their scalings against XYZ Ash
Judging from the fact that Paul plays Pokémon like most competitive players today, there should be no reason why he’s not at the top echelon of trainers. I wouldn’t be surprised if he does EV training too. Paul disregards weak Pokémon’s and look for Pokémon with the highest stats abilities and performances, nothing less. Unlike Ash would with most of his Pokémon Paul, make sure everyone of his Pokémon are fully evolved, and fully capable of whatever he needs them for. Paul is extremely intelligent in the world of Pokémon, making sure to always be at a type advantage, and use a strategy to win.
Pre-vid thoughts:
No. Absolutely not.
All we know is that Paul can keep up with Base Lucario, Dragonite, and Base Gengar.
His mons probably get washed by Mega Lucario and GMax Gengar.
I can see him possibly beating Iris and Alain and that's about it. I need him to demonstrate a gimmick or at least more concrete feats. All of his Gen 4 pokemon are featless in Journeys, and so I can't say how strong his Electivire is other than it's stronger than his Garchomp and thus stronger than Ash's Dragonite. Yeah, Electivire scales to Ash's Infernape, but Ash's Infernape is also kinda featless in Journeys; it didn't KO a notable mon, only contending with and losing to Moltres
Vid live reactions:
HOLD UP, ALAIN IS A TOUGHER OPPONENT THAN STEVEN OR DIANTHA? I pride myself in being an Alain-tard, but I wouldn't go that far! Steven's Metagross is crazy
I can see Lance leaving himself very open, but I'm not sure if Paul has the power to properly take advantage of the opening. I only see Electivire and Garchomp leaving a noticeable dent in them
I agree with the Iris takes.
Hmmm, I'm still unconvinced on the Steven take. I just don't see Paul being able to keep up with someone who felt comfortable 1v1ing a Primal Kyogre
I think Paul could outsmart Steven, but I don't believe Paul has the power to decidedly win. The strongest feat Paul has is beating Ash's Dragonite, which a lot of other mons have done too
Love the Mega Gardevoir respect. The silent dodging and use of Pyschic goes crazy. A battle of tactics between Paul and Diantha would be amazing.
I disagree that Diantha wouldn't be able to knock a single mon before Mega Gardevoir tho; Diantha wouldn't let herself get outsmarted and countered by weaker pokemon that badly
I agree, Alain's team sucks. Oi, Alain's dealt with the status of poison before, from Mega Venusaur!
Ngl, I don't think Paralysis would slow down Mega Zard that much. Alain's used to fighting as an underdog: against Siebold, against Steven, and against Primal Groudon
Ok, so I can see Paul demolishing maybe half of Alain's team. But I don't see Paul easily getting past Malamar, Chestnaught or Mega Zard.
Malamar was able to dodge and counter some of the attacks from the world's strongest Charizard
Chestnaught was able to contend with GMax Rillaboom, a mon who was able to KO 4 of Diantha's pokemon in BASE.
And Mega Zard's power and endurance speak for themselves
I agree with the Cynthia takes. Paul would be at his absolute strongest against Cynthia; he would've prepared for that battle like his and Reggie's lives depended on it
I honestly don't know if Paul with 1 gimmick can beat Cynthia. Cynthia's got way more experience than him, and she handled Ash with 1 gimmick pretty well
Give Paul 3 or 4 gimmicks, and he can probably beat Leon. Paul is certainly smarter than Leon No gimmicks, I can see Paul beating 2 or 3 mons
Ash with no gimmicks could narrowly lose. Ash with 1 gimmick could narrowly beat Paul. Ash with 3 or 4 gimmicks overwhelms Paul.
Need I remind everyone of how many attacks Ash's Pikachu tanked from the world's strongest Charizard and Cinderace? I just don't think Paul has the power to definitively KO Pikachu
Post-vid thoughts:
VeeVolt, I love your content. But I am going to throw hands with you over your "Alain is mid" takes /j
My guy typed a whole story
You are wrong for Leon. Before Ash, no one has knocked out more than 2 of his Pokémon in a single battle. Paul can only knock out 0-1 Pokémon assuming champions level trainers can knock out 2 (based on Diantha vs Leon).
@@paos123 I'm assuming Paul was champion level, smarter than Leon in the heat of battle, and planned extensively for the battle
@@jayd.doubledubs Ash doesn’t plan nor is smart yet he defeated Leon.
@paos123 That's cause he's super adaptable and unpredictable, and his mons get giant power boosts during battle. Paul is Ash's complete opposite which is why Paul vs the Masters 8 is so interesting
Dope discussion, I think there is tons of options here of how things can play out. I wonder how a Paul would really fair if he was in the Masters 8! Good video bro, this was a dope idea!
Nice to see you around these part bro! Love your videos
f he could hold his own against one of them, he could definitely beat a majority of them
Plus he does;t have a point when he battled Ash before. If Ash was struggling against evil evil Paul is so much, there was absolutely way he would win the tournament. Heck, he probably would be able to beat Iris or Alain, much less anybody else with how much he was being pushed against the lines or ropes/
Great video! This is/was amazing! I love to see you do a video of underrated Pokemon bard, Nando next. Poor Nando is so very underrated, and the writers really did my favorite bard very dirty pinning him against Ash in the 1st round of the Sinnoh League- I'm still pretty salty about that, honestly! Here are some Pokemon Nando videos I'd love to see ( and this are just suggestions, but you can definitely use them if you wanna ):
1. New Pokemon for Nando ( NEW Potential Pokemon Teams for Nando )
2. Nando's BIG comeback! If Nando returned for Pokemon Journeys, or Pokemon Horizons
3. Nando's Journey AFTER the Sinnoh League/Grand Festival ( Where has he been all this time?! )
4. If Nando didn't face Ash TOO EARLY in the Sinnoh League ( plus, if Tobias NEVER Entered )
5. If Nando WON the Grand Festival
6. Nando's Backstory ( Why did he struggle choosing Gym Battles or Contests? )
40 minutes of peak. Amazing video.
Alain's the weakest in masters eight, even Iris was able to held her own against Cynthia without mechanic. Theres no way Alain is stronger then all the 8-5 champions
I wish Journeys didn't do that to Alain as that will be the last thing we remember him by. I wish they could've chosen a powerful character that fans would've been fine with being defeated while also be a strong champion contender to highlight Leon.... like Tobias!!!!!!! Everybody hated Tobias & seeing Leon defeat a Trainer with only Legendaries would've definitely raised his fame
Base Charizard one shotting Gmax boosted rillaboom, that same Rillaboom destroyed 4/5 of Diantha’s pokemons (also tanked a fire blast from Goodra) and also defeated 2 of Ash his pokemon. That alone is a huge feat for Alain’s base Charizard.
if ash was going to face Leon, he HAD to win. Ejorndio user is suck and with bad insult people too.
Paul doesnt beat Steven confidently, unless he gets ash's plot armor
I can agree with this but I also disagree. I feel like against someone like Steven, Paul has a much better chance of beating him than Ash and I whole heartily believe after seeing Steven's performance Against Ash, Paul would without a doubt have very good strategery to be able to confidently beat Steven but I do understand where coming from I could the writers making it way closer than how I would see it unfold haha xD
@@AuraZora valid point, but I stand by my opinion :')
The writers like Paul so he probably going to get plot armor look at his battles till Cynthia I can say confident he beat those. They even wrote it so he wouldn't take part Ash even wanted him to fight so Ash thinks he is an equal so I'm going to think of him as an equal
One thing I didn't like about the Masters 8 is how standard and ordinary their battle formulas were. During the Sinnoh series, Paul was such a wall to overcome. He had so many strategies and it felt like Ash was slowly getting choked by overwhelming force. But the masters 8 are too easily defeated and the way they battle seems too straightforward for literal champions. By the way do we remember how powerful mega evolutions were? When Alain battled a mega Absol and they left cataclysms in their clash. Why is everything so rushed?
Paul's best team imo:
-electivire
-torterra
-drapion
-metagross
-garchomp
-gyarados
(I picked the 3 I thought were strongest from sinnoh, along with the 3 mew ones he revealed in journeys since they were on par with ash's strongest team ever)
Honorable mentions:
-ursaring
-aggron
Yeahh I very much agree with this and if it was the team to go into the Masters 8 he would certainly get far!!🔥
@@AuraZora What new pokemon do you think Paul would use in the M8 if he decided not to use any of his old pokemon? I'm in the camp of old mix with new mons but It's Paul always changing and doing new things with his large roster of team members.
@@Justin-pl3qx
Gyarados
Metagross
Garchomp
Grimmsnarl
Golisopod
Electivire (I think he'd always have, what has basically become his ace, on hand)
No lie, I feel like a lot of the Champions were artificially nerfed to make Leon look stronger. Getting down to brass tax, I just don’t think his team is all that impressive.
Also Ash never nearly defeat Diantha, Diantha was just testing his skills as she was using light screen and teleports but not moonblast, the moment gardevoir almost got down the next frame it was up. If Paul switches Diantha can just use reflect to resist both types of moves
That wasn’t teleport that was just how fast dianthas gardevoir spreed they definitely forgot that gardevoir as literally the fastest out of the masters 8 pokemon
@@girlgaming7346 nah steven's mega metagross is faster
Paul could cut it close with any of them because Paul is 99.3% compared to Ash's 99.5%. It all comes down to chess pieces.
Elekid is my favorite Pokémon since gen 2 and when I saw that Paul had one I started liking him ❤️
You could've added the teams that Paul would've used for each battle.
Thank you very much for the suggestion on this! Me and VeeVolt didn't think about it beforehand but it certainly something I will incorporate in the next gauntlet style videos for you guys which make it more fun and easier to understand our thought process 😁
Aside from the chosen Champions; Shinji beats Lance, Iris, and Diantha.
Alain and Ash would be the mid tier buffer, those two are similar in demeanor when it comes to spontaneous strategies. These are two that are great at a back and forth battle. More of a 50/50 with these two. "Easily" beat Alain is one thing I'd never thought I'd hear someone say. I usually chock it up to that person not seeing the Mega-Evo special. Throw in the bad writing of the M8 battles, Alain was shafted. I do like, how Alain got beat by Leon and everyone just craps on him for being a "weak" trainer henceforth.
Steven, Cynthia, and Leon would most likely dog walk Shinji.
I think all of the M8 challengers should have been given a D-Max band.
Paul doesn’t stand a chance against diantha especially considering how unpredictable she is. And the fact that she’s stronger than Alain and more experienced.
When I first saw the masters 8 line up I was sad Paul wasn't there
But after watching the masters 8 I'm glad he wasn't
LMAO your not wrong at all
LMAO your not wrong at all
Facts. They battles were incredible
Tbh Paul or even Tobias should have been there in place of Alain because there was really bo point in having Alain there if he didn’t rebattle Greninja or battle Ash at all besides getting embarrassed by Leon
I personally don’t think Aggron could defeat gardivoir just because of type advantage, dianthas gardivoir beat wikstroms mega scizor with a 4x ineffective moonblast.
Omg my bro protecting Alain's power. Same! I totally believe Alain Vs Paul will be a such an epic battle, and solely believe Alain would win. In fairness Paul is shown studying other trainers but we kinda all forget Alain was a research assistant. As long as he falls back to being more analytical he can truly learn to battle with more than just brute strength.
CAN AGREE. Alain is also my man. He beated like 20 battles with his Charizard, and seeing how he was in the Kalos League, he only used his Charizard and Metagross except in the final round against Ash. LITERALLY this man bodied the kalos league with strategies and calculating the area too. BRO EVEN USE 'MATH' TO BEAT TREVOR's CHARIZARD. But sometimes it also depends on who would win but i say Alain.
Total agreement. I mean Alain's analysis of studying Leon of when he decided to use Chesnaught to be able to withstand the power of G-MAX. Albeit I think his achilles heel in that battle was Malamar; I wish he chose someone from his original team (my guess maybe Pokemon Mezastar was leaning towards either his Tyranitar or Weavile for a better viable option)
@@MarcusMapua I think the only reason he used Malamar is specifically because he comes from Kalos and they needed XY representation from that region since his Charizard is a Kanto starter. I wish Manon had gave him her Chespie to battle with but his own trained one was good enough.
@@CoRona.11 Yeah. I had a feeling that the Kalos representative thing was a factor in it too (unless you choose to count Mega Charizard as a Kalos pokemon), which they could've counted diantha for anyways. The only exceptions were just ash, iris, lance, & leon
@@CoRona.11 although it would've been cool to see Cynthia fight with Kommo-o And would be awesome to see a Champion-level Eeveelution battle with her Glaceon
All ash managed to do in his fight with diantha was knock it down and it immediately got back up, and diantha was not aiming to win like ash she was aiming to observe and learn more about ash her ninja which was why she kept on stalling out the battle with ineffective shadow balls. I mean the title of the episode is championing a RESEARCH battle for Pete sake
Thank you some that has eyes
I honestly think he won't even stand a chance. The champions doesn't just have pokemon way above Paul's league but he also had no recorded gimmicks to back it up. Plus the champions can match up to Paul's strategies since they have so many feats backing up their biq. And i cant take this seriously since u put alain above everyone else spcially steven and diantha.
The Lance disrespect is crazy he fought against the same charizard who 2 shotted Alain
Maybe Leon used full % of his power against alain lol
Or he trained more after fighting lance
Leon, Paul, Steven, Cynthia, Allan are Ash's best and strongest rivals. I don't know about Nemona yet of how strong will she be in the anime comparing to games.
Paul is like the only pokemon trainer in the anime that knows what IVs and EVs are 💀
And he fears Stealth Rock, while Ash reacts like it’s a seven year old’s first time playing the game.
Nope and nahh he doesn't know anything.
Without plot armor, I think Paul would win for most of them. Videogame wise, I think Leon sucks as a champion. I think Paul would beat Ash if there were no plot armor.
paul diffs alain absolutely hard. alain is the only non-champ there, and paul could keep up with lucario and gengar - arguably ash's two aces of journeys.
in the order you guys put up, i think he'd get to diantha and lose. diantha is able to change the pace of the battle at her own command, due to her own unpredictability. she could throw him off with trick-or-treat, the screens, maybe even refrigerate on her aurorus. paul simply won't be able to keep up with diantha's pace.
paul is basically a competitive battler
He may be able to come out the plans but the argument should be it's his Pokemon strong enough to combat there's
Yeah your right too thats why i struggling with seeing him beat Cynthia when it comes down to strength but I strongly belive he can beat everyone under Cynthia.
I feel they winked him too hard he's a very very good trainer but these people have spent their lives with their Partners they making it seem like he can use random Pokemon he caught to combat their Pokemon to come up with a plan
He’s calm until someone throws him off his game Steve’s Metagross almost Solos
Also for Ash vs Cynthia, the main reason Ash didn’t turn it around faster was due to Pikachu getting taken out by Destiny Bond, but good job to Sirfetch’d and Lucario carrying
I feel as though Paul is that character that would bust out Terastilzation, and capitalize on it to the Maximum. He has the strategic ability to switch up throw off everyone.
Switching is OP in anime but a gamble in the game. It’s essentially a free turn for your opponent to set up or attack.
MOST INSANE BATTLE WOULD BE PAUL VS SAWYER BOTH ARE MOST TACTICAL THAT WE GOT
If pokemon challenges was a character in the anime
i thought he was going to play the game with paul’s pokémon 💀😭
No way he could beat Cynthia
“Bro Cynthia literally ten times the trainer Paul is, more experienced, and have Mega Evolution and Dynamax on her side. I don’t think Paul is winning this one”
“I hear you bro, and I understand that…..Buuuuuuuut Im telling you bro, PAUL WOULD REALLY WANNA TO WIN.”
Bro must think Paul is Ash Ketchum💀
What Mega would Paul have top go against Cynthia's Garchomp? Gyarados, Garchomp, or Aggron? I guess with her team Gyarados makes the most sense since it can learn ice moves. I def think it would stop at Cynthia unless he did have mega evolution but he not making it to Leon or Ash lol. It took Ash all 3 of his mechanics himself to beat Leon lol. With his Champiom team, it would be close but I think if Ash pulled from his roster, I don't think it would be as close, Pikachu, Charizard, Infernape, Septile, Greninja, Snorlax, Krookadile, any of his Alola team, Bulbasaur, Herracross, Talinflame, lol. That man got weapons
12:40 I don't think that Metagross' strategy comes from Steven. I think it comes from the literal 4 brained supercomputer of a Pokemon that is Metagross. Also even if Paul were to use his Metagross to analyze the strategy I don't think Paul would realize that Metagross' Mega Evolution not only amplifies it's power but also links its Brains to Stevens which allows it to communicate during the battle.
So no I think Steven would win that one.
Honestly you gotta give it up for Alain as he & his Metagross were the ones that started the Metagross-Agility tactic in the anime in the first place; which later ended up being used by Paul & Steven
How would Ash have done in the Masters 8 if he had used his regional teams? That's an idea for a video imo. How would he have done with his Kanto team exclusively? Johto? Hoenn? Etc
All of his teams get destroyed except Sinnoh and maybe Alola have a chance. Kalos would be good but lets be honest Greninja carries that team hard along with maybe Hawlucha. Talonflame, Goodra, and Noivern did nothing but take L’s
Its crazy he just pulled up with Ash's opponent's Ace Pokemon and wasnt in the Masters 8
Steven and daiantha easier then Alain?
Hey. This would be my team for Paul’s team. Alola ninetales, g-max toxtricity, Salamance, Samurott, Mienshaou and Mega Diance.
Ooo this would be cool, I really the additions of Salamance, Samourott and Mienshaou but Mega Diance isnt one that would come to my mind but I think be very cool especially Paul's development personality wise that he could have one it make him more nicer and easier to interact with other people I think :)
@@AuraZora thanks. The thing with mega Diance is this backstory: Paul searches for strong pokemons in reflection cave but gets trapped and finds a damaged and sick Diance with A mega stone. Paul helps diance heal up and when it feels much better the cave is about to collapse and when paul is about to be buried diance saved him with Diamond Storm. After that Paul learns the meaning of trust and compassion and ask diance to join him which it accept. And thats how Paul got daince and became nicer
@@AuraZora Also. Steven always tries to convince paul to trade Diance for money ;)
I think Paul gets past Iris and Lance easily but starting at Steven and Diantha is where he probably losses the rest of the battles
I agree. There's no way paul would beat those two unless he got plot armor
Interesting, how would either Gary, Ritchie, Harisson, Tyson and Virgil fare in your opinion? Or hell throw in Tobias.
bad show you guys! Although I have to say, I do kind of disagree when it comes to comparing power-scaling the trainers.
Because while Paul hasn’t shown/showcased an onscreen gimmick mechanic like a Z move, Mega Evolution, or Dynamax, his Pokémon’s base power is still very powerful.
He was able to overwhelm Ash with a few moves without even trying to win their battle at Oak’s Lab, and even before Paul was anywhere close to that level, Paul’s Torterra managed to Giga Drain Cynthia’s Garchomp close to where it might’ve fainted.
Yes, Garchomp was vulnerable after using Giga Impact, but the damage and strain that momentarily brought it to its knees was all from Torterra’s Giga Drain. Even members of the Elite 4 struggle to even budge Cynthia’s Garchomp, or her other Pokémon for that matter. Cynthia even said it herself that she was especially impressed with Paul’s Torterra, implying even among some of the strongest trainers she’s faced, not many have pushed her Garchomp to that extent.
That was before Paul was around champion level as well.
While Paul’s base power without special mechanics might not be quite as powerful as some of the Masters 8 with their mechanics, I think Paul’s base power should be around at least some of theirs.
Plus, since EVIL Paul didn’t enter the tournament, we didn’t see whether or not he had those mechanics. But I wouldn’t be surprised if he honestly had them.
Also, while many probably don’t see Paul with Z moves, I can honestly see him with them! If Paul kept up with Ash’s progress, including his Leagues, I wouldn’t be surprised if Paul visited the regions of the Leagues Ash competed in, after the Leagues were finished.
don' imagine evil Paul would want to use Z-moves with his Tortora against Cynthia’s Gar chomp, especially grass type moves.
It's hard to say in some matchups, because we don't know exactly how strong THE BOYS are from his old mons
Think he clears up to round 7, I'm sure he'll dynamax Electivire or something. If he doesn't then it's GGs by round 6 lmao
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Paul is strong but he's not beating any of the Masters 8 but might be close.
He got destroyed by just garchomp
Paul doesn’t get past rillaboom
An option Paul could do is that considering Leon's Rillaboom''s moveset, Paul's Magmortar would not only have a type advantage, but Flame Body would really impede its prowess.
And/or: Battle of the primates!!!!!! Rillaboom vs Electivire!!!!!!!
Nobody gets past Rillaboom 😂 he's built different
@@MarcusMapua Leon would definitely swap it out against magmortar
As much as I like Paul, Cynthia would anihilated him. Even Ash won just because of his strong aura conection and his unpredictibality. But as you said Paul isn’t the best at battles that are too unpredictibal and Cynthia is just a big mystery box, you never know what she is about to do. Plus her team is pure GOAT (maybe except for Gastrodon and even that thing is at least super bulky).
cynthia he would never beat. ash wouldn't either actually.
Ash beat Cynthia.
@@Thatclownwalking cynthia would never end a battle without her mega garchomp.
I think that even with mechanics Paul would never beat Cynthia, not even close
I can totally agree with this to an extent as I do think it would be closer with Mechanics as he can make up for his missing strength with one
NAHH> he is suck.
15:52 toxic spikes with Drapion
The DP battles were definitely savage, shown clearly with Cynthia
I think Alan relies too much on mega evolution. If that was taken away, he definitely can’t beat Paul Sorry, this might be a hot take but without Mega Zard X, I think he goes down to Iris’s level.
28:26 I totally agree.
In some ways I think Paul’s adaptability might surpass ash in some ways. He definitely can’t beat ash or Leon. But he sometimes doesn’t even use moves for his strategies. A classic is how electivire always raps pikachu with his wires to prevent it from moving or starapter being slammed into the ground to get the poison effects of the toxic spikes.
Paul is definitely as scary as Cynthia if he wants to be!
I actually think Dinamax perfectly fit Paul’s battle style. He would be able to utilise moves like Max Nicole, Max Air streem, or even Max Guard as stat boosting moves and protection
yall give give him too much credit lol
No way paul is beating alain. paul cannot use mega evolution because he does not connects with his pokemon like that. He does not have that bond that gives a pokemon an extra edge despite being in a tight situation. He has less outplay potential against an ace pokemon. paul is an elite pokemon trainer who trains strong pokemons. but any champion on this list trains their pokemon to become stronger. there is that difference. In my opinion paul may only beat lance, diantha or maybe iris. but he is not beating anyone else without a gimmick. mega evolution is not for paul because he does not have that close of a bond with a pokemon and even if he had it with electivire, it cant mega evolve. the only gimmick he can use is dynamax and he can somehow beat steven using dynamax but beating alain is a different story. You guys are thinking alain is weak because the writer made him lose badly to leon. but if it was not leon then alain would have bodied that trainer otherwise. Remember alains mega charizard x beaten ash greninja thrice and is on a mega evolution winning streak. His charizard beaten xy pikachu without mega evolving( not that pikachu was exhausted beating 2 psudo legendaries but that win should still count) and his charizard was the strongest ace pokemon beside cynthia's garchomp untill leon came into the picture. Leon's pokemons are simply over experienced and over leveled but alain got a very close bond with his charizard. if paul even manages to beat all of alains pokemon and put him into a corner, alain can sweep paul using his mega charizard x
Alain has the stronger ace but Paul has the deeper team.
Paul in joruneys changed in personality compared to when he was in Sinnoh after Ash beat him, he definitely could use mega evolution but not with his pokemon that have mega’s because they aren’t his ace like Electivire or Torterra so he’s not that close.
I know you spent a while on this but that's goofy alt how he beats Alain and diantha
I remember his chimchar
He can but this isn’t Paul story so it would be nice if he make it past round one and very nice if he doesn’t get swept in round 2 against Leon
A cool rival that pushed ash to his limits kinda like naruto and sasuke and goku and vegeta
Respectfully I don’t think you’ve considered what Iris has needed to do to get here, not only did she collect all 8 unova gym badges but she challenged the Unova Elite 4 to challenge Alder AND beat him. But we still don’t know if Paul managed to beat Brandon the second time round…
Paul vs Iris with her anime team is a potential mid to high diff.
Paul vs Iris with her game team which includes, Salamence, Aggron, and Lapras instead of Dragonite, Excadril, and Druddigon is an extreme diff if she doesnt straight wall him.
Shes literally the only champ who not only didnt have a gimmick but was forced to use her non canon team. Despite this being the perfect time to show it off in the anime.
what is paul’s 6 pokémon in this scenario?
Maybe the 6th could just be Electivire to just signify Paul himself
Paul isn’t getting past Diantha nor Cynthia
1:lance is too low, he should be higher, steven and diantha are stronger than alain, and steven BY FAR NOT EVEN CLOSE, was wining against him with only not very effective moves, paul doesnt beat cynthia ash and keon not even on his dreams or on their wrost days or with cynthia garchomp trash moveset, cynthia loses 2-3 pokemon at max, leon 1-2 and ash 1-2
I don't know how I feel personally. I think Iris would be shifted to Round 5. Iris has the same thing going for her that Leon and Ash have. That immense unpredictability, and the series has shown Paul likes to prepare and use previous experience and knowledge to battle his opponents.
Paul could have an immensely easier time against Alain, Lance, and Steven. Alain has the weakest showing and feats from the Masters 8. Alain is a bit of jabroni, and probably moves to round 1. Lance and Steven we know Paul has studied.
Diantha has a very diverse team and we don't know if Paul has any information for him to go off of.
Cynthia doesn't have anything to worry about. She probably wipes Paul because she also understands threats.
For me?
Round 1: Alain Low Diff
Round 2: Lance Low Diff
Round 3: Steven Mid-High Diff
Round 4: Diantha Mid-High Diff
Round 5: Iris High-Extreme Diff
Round 6: Cynthia Extreme Diff (High Diff if Cynthia wins)
Round 7: Ash (if rules apply)/Leon [Extreme Diff if it's Ash/Loses to Leon]
Round 8: Leon (if rules apply/Ash with all gimmicks) [No shot he wins. Unless we give Paul all 3 Gimmicks? He loses.]
I think Alain should’ve been contestant number one. Steven after Diantha, and Lance after Iris. There. I said it lol. No other complaint hahaha
Honestly, Ash wins through LOTS of plot armor. If Paul had those gimmicks, he would win.
Paul would only beat Lance, Alain and Iris😂😂 Steven is a strong champion and can easily defeat Paul, Diantha is great at strategy and a mastermind while Paul is brute force. Theres no way Paul can sweep ANY of the masters eight.
Paul only brute force ? You clearly don't know paul.
I don’t think Ash would of won if he didn’t get Paul's help
Bruh I know u are brother but I couldn't tell who was who for 90% Of the video
An amazing video.
I have some thoughts:
Firstly Steven would be in Round 4 and Alain will be in round 6.
Paul can outsmart Lance raw brute strength with his tactics like using ninjask, froslass, electivire and even newer mons.
He has simply more experience than iris and can handle her monstrous haxorus with his heart bonded with iris by employing unconventional tactics.
Now one thing to note is that Paul would definitely have a battle mechanic, judging by his battling style, dynamax seems more fitting but he can also employ mega evolution (just like Cynthia who was like an end goal for him).
Against Alain, Paul could use mega Gyarados against Alain's mega charizard X, or any other mega pokemon from his arsenal. He has the tactics and strength to go toe to toe with MCX, and at the end it'd take Paul's 2 pokemon to take down Alain's MCX (a mega pokemon and his electivire)
Now for Diantha, it'd be the most challenging and toughest match for Paul regarding strategies because Diantha herself has a lot of tricks up her sleeve and this match I imagine them both saying "checkmate" just like Ash used acounter against Counter (Lycanroc battle). Paul would win narrowly. Using Torterra and his other ace.
Now comes the beastly champions, the ones who are on another level,
Firstly Steven (he'd use Aggron, cradily, claydol, Diancie, another Fossil, Mega metagross), Paul would have to use every kind of tactic against Steven to take down his behemoths who have a lower attack but insane stamina and defense, he'd to employ thunder wave, thunder punch, will o wisp, flame body etc to further limit Steven's assaults and finally use Ash's techniques using fiery rings, Torterra's frenzy plant vines or thunderbolt rings to contain mega metagross to finally land a finishing blow.
Now comes Cynthia, the champion Paul looks up to. It'd be the most challenging for Paul , not battle wise but emotionally, Paul would have to use tactics and a cool demeanor, I imagine Cynthia giving him the eye opening reality touch during the battle, Paul would use all his underlying strength and stamina along with his prior knowledge to stand up to Cynthia, understanding the bond between him and his pokemon, his pokemon refusing to give up even when Paul trying to recall them and thinking they can't battle further which will be the most emotional moment for him as he finally gets to understand Ash and his battle style and finally after a long battle, using 2-3 pokemon (Torterra,Electivire and gyarados) to finally take down garchomp. (Imagining dynamax togekiss vs mega aggron).
Then comes Leon, it may be a bit controversial but I'd tune Leon a little bit, he'd also be able to use mega evolution and dynamax and his pokemon wouldn't be as busted as in the anime which is poor writing nothing more.
Leon has raw strength+clever moves+strong bond, with his pokemon, so you can say he's like an amalgam of all of the past champions, so Leon would have a great arsenal of varying moves that Paul would find difficult to comprehend, but his rilaboom would be in a power level similar to Cynthia's togekiss, and his charizard would be stronger than her garchomp by a narrow margin instead of being a total menace like in the anime that it's laughable (since the last opponent is Ash Ketchum now). After a draw with Torterra vs Rilaboom,
And after a long battle, Paul would lose 6-5 with Leon's dynamax charizard beating dynamax Electivire.
If and only if he gets to battle Ash, by miraculously defeating Leon, Paul would lose to Ash in a similar manner but this battle will be the one where Paul gives his all emotionally like truly motivating his pokemon, praising them, enjoying the battles, employing the tactics and when they backfire, instead of panicking, complementing Ash and having a healthy competition. After losing to Ash by 6-5 ir 6-4, it'd be a wrap up for Paul and these battle will finally make him understand the real meaning of pokemon battle that is much more than winning.
You are overrating Paul in his battle with Leon. When there is an article stating Leon lose at most 2 Pokémon in a single battle. Paul will be lucky if he only knock out one assuming Leon’s challenging battles are against champions.
@@paos123 if you read my comment carefully, I stated that I feel like Leon is too busted and OP due to poor writing, I'd tune him up a bit so that he's a bit stronger than Cynthia but not like an OP champion who has plot armor on his side and Ash had to use 4 gimmicks to defeat him while it took him 1 gimmick to defeat Cynthia and Steven as it is clearly a disservice and disrespect of previous gen champions. So by that scenario, If Leon is brought to a realistic level of power then Paul would have a small chance of winning. Otherwise by the stupid JN writing, not even Ash or Cynthia can defeat him one on one by using only one mechanic.
@@arslanakhter3034 Journeys depict Leon in a league of his own. How do you think he can be called ‘undefeated champion’ with record breaking winning streak.
@@paos123 I actually have a problem with this kind of depiction, being undefeated and being so OP that other champions look like a joke are two different things. Massive disservice to Cynthia and Steven Stone
@@paos123 if 9nly Leon had been introduced in one or two generations before, we could have more insight into his character, his power level, but JN showed him a Galar champion and then a monarch who's too powerful for other champions to even defeat half of his team when Ash NARROWLY defeated Steven and Cynthia before. Ash using 3 gimmicks vs Leon's 1 is also just a silly excuse to give Ash the victory or portray Leon as an insanely strong trainer that Ash defeated Steven n cynthia with 1 battle mechanic and Ash had to use 3 to defeat Leon.
I think Paul would get a mega evolution if he competed in the masters 8. He definitely could find one and master it. Same with Dynamax.
Mega for someone who does not value bond. It’s is clear in anime that it is an important factor.
Paul can do Mega Evolution if he wants. Remember in the SM series a Team Rocket Grunt used Mega evolution mega evolving his Aggron against Kukui's Braviery. If a grunt can do mega evolution from an organization so can Paul. Paul's bonds with his pokemon have improved and changed his outlook on pokemon after his Sinnoh league lost. Argument Paul can't do Mega evolution was put to sleep in SM. I'll say this three of Paul's pokemon are like him Electivire and Torterra. Garchomp resembled his personality serious and loves to battle that's the vibe it gave me. Paul has four pokemon he can mega evolve will he be able to do it yes.
Everyone shitting on poor lance
😭😭Its rough out here for the Kanto and Johto boy
Stop cursing its a sin dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......
Paul murdered Tobias, that’s why he didn’t join the tournament. He has to keep a low profile.
Evil.
If it was paul battling Tobias he likely would have been slammed just like Ash. He definitely could beat Darkrai but then likely destroyed by Latios depending on what pokemon Paul uses
i disagree cynthia can beat leon if leon suggest that they all use their gimmicks!