I hope you guys get a kick out of this one because it was a ton of "fun" to work on. If you're wondering why I sound odd towards the end, I had to get one tooth pulled and a root canal on a different tooth from the same side. So I had a hole in my gums and a temporary crown on one of my teeth. Couldn't quite get my mouth to do what I wanted. I'll sound normal next video. I promise. Also, I did some testing and it looks like my guess was correct. Those vertical bars in GameCube video output do seem to come from a low pass filter blurring the dithering. So if you own a Tink 5X, just turn your LPF off. Problem solved!
It's a shame vanilla Skyrim is absurdly boring, dull and has severe balance issues to the point where I'd rather just go back and play Morrowind again to dick about with mods and multiplayer.
@@kazer4 Capcom & TOSE had to skin it down because of the Wii's hardware limitations & was nothing to do with the amount of space that Wii discs could hold.
also let him believe what he wants to you might disagree but that doesn't make his opinions invalid or wrong or horrible whatever you want to call it rather then just reject it get into a discussion about it instead of just shutting it down
You forgot to mention that the GameCube version is the only one that has different damage values to weapons, mostly all do less damage IIRC. Broken B. maxed does 35 damage and 50 on every other release. So in theory it’s the hardest version. Amazing detailed video though, as usual.
I remember hearing back in the day the weapon rebalancing actually started in the European release of the GameCube original (I swear I read about the likes of the Red9 and Rifle being buffed in Europe before the PS2 port released), but I'm having trouble finding sources to collaborate this. I could probably boot up the EU version in Dolphin to check this, but meh.
Few games compete with RE4 in terms of replayability. I finished it dozens of times and yet I'm still not bored of it. What's funny is that in most of these times I wasn't even planning on finishing it, I just plan on dipping into it for a few minutes just to scratch an itch and the next thing you know I'm watching the end credits lol the progression of the game is just so well done. Once you pick it up it's so hard to put it down. Every new port that comes out is pretty much just an excuse for me to play through it again.
Ive been playing this game since 2006 and i never knew that you could close the well so the pendant doesnt get dirty 🤦🏽♂️. Still suprising me all these years later lol
24:21 The difference in audio sample fidelity has less to do with the capacity of the storage medium and more to do with the amount of audio RAM each platform had available to keep those samples on hand in. The GameCube had a luxurious 16MB of audio cache while the PS2 had to manage with a paltry 2MB. Note: The GameCube's actual audio ram was an even smaller 8KB, but most games would read in samples as needed from the cache.
Even then Skyrim and RE4 don't even hold a candle to Doom. Because the source code is so readily available for that game and it's so low spec, people have been porting that to literally everything. Now imagine playing RE4 on a pregnancy test because someone got Doom running on that, please release the source code Capcom.
I've lost count of how many streams I've watched of you gathering footage for this video but I loved every second of it. This video is basically the dessert after the buffet of streams.
I love hearing the Wii version getting some love. It was always my favourite and especially loved the reloading sounds coming from the remote..even if it was jank as hell
The whole complaint about the adaptive difficulty is easily remedied if you play on professional. There's no adaptive difficulty it just stays the same.
Except that you take twice as much damage. If only there was a way to play with professional mode settings, without the damage multiplier change. (Not that I can't beat professional mode, beaten it several times)
The Re4 HD project modder has a UA-cam channel and is consistently updating stuff in the game and he's nearly finished including all pre-rendered cutscenes, separate ways, the mercenaries, and also assignment ada. The modder youtube channel is named "Albert Marin" and he's spanish that's why we don't see him often. His work is very unprecedented and he deserves credit for his passion in the game.
Not gonna lie, the hype leading up to 4's release was real. People, who didn't even play video games were talking about. And that was just in secondary school. And I have to agree with you on what it did for the rest of the franchise. Didn't stop me from enjoying those games either, but I know exactly what you mean.
RE4 is my favorite game of all time, nothing can replace those days when me and my buddies were all playing it concurrently, swapping stories and notes, absolute gem, an action adventure with great characters, sass, mystery and fun, keep going back to it every few years to relive that nostalgia. Also a fan of the other RE games for sure, but this is just the sweet spot of the franchise for a born in 1980 kid like myself
Honestly, I find the original to be a little more fun for a repeat playthrough than the remake. There was definitely something special about this one. Also, big fan! Awesome to have you in my comment section dawg!
@@AvalancheReviews Omg! I didn't even get notified you responded! Thank you! You are kind of like an older brother to me. If that makes sense. You give me comfort when I am having a bad day! Keep up the great work!
That Evo Moment 37 mention was unexpected..but welcome. That being said RE4 did introduce some mechanics that ended up turning off fans of the series as time went on
everything in the PS2 version is downgraded simply because the hardware isn't as powerful as Gamecube. the extra storage space of the PS2's DVDs doesn't matter when the console can't render the original assets. there were alot more differences than the one's you covered. as an example alot of assets in the environments have been removed and every model has a lower polygon count, plus the lower resolution textures. this is why all the cutscenes were turned in to pre-rendered videos, the PS2 wasn't capable of rending the high quality models used in the cutscenes.
yes exact due to his very poor VRAM that was... 4 ...Mo Cube have 16 Mo something like that I advertise the Steam mdded version who is the better to all levels. And is finish almost (main game/Mercenaries and Separate ways...just wait for the extra costumes etc ..but 95% in done) Rest just the pre rendered cutscen. Actualy a programmer is trying to fix them..He is the one tha Albert hire for. I play the old 2018 patch HD ndrl
Yes! In addition, audio takes a lot more than just storage. Audio files can affect performance just as much as graphics. Unfortunately, there aren't as many methods of optimization/compression to audio as there are with visual assets like textures and models. To makes matters more unfortunate, audio codecs in 2004-2005 weren't as clean and lightweight as they are today.
Interestingly the hookman build spawned haunting grounds for the ps2, an amazing game with the hookman being a persuer that cant be killed only stunned and it being in a huge castle being the same, re4 even references haunting grounds with the dog you rescue from the bare trap which has the same model as huey the dog from that game :)
It's actually the Castle/Fog build where Haunting Grounds spawned from! The credited "draft" scenario writer for Haunting Grounds (Noboru Sugimura) was writing for RE4 during the Castle build, and when it was scrapped the script he made was donated to Production Studio 1, who later went on to do HG (this is the story told by the Resident Evil wiki on Fandom anyway). I think the pursuer concept probably originated specifically from Clock Tower 3; Capcom had some experience with the IP through that entry of the series, and I've heard HG described as a spiritual successor to CT3.
speaking of the Ultimate HD release I wish that version used the Wii Remote aiming mechanics for the mouse and keyboard. using the mouse to control the on screen reticle and the ASWD keys to move the camera while aiming would have provided that version of the game with significantly more accurate aiming than what was included.
@@AvalancheReviews Wii remote aiming mechanics are generally on par with mouse aiming so when the Ultimate HD version was announced I was expecting it to pull those mechanics from the Wii version, I was disappointed when it didn't. although I suppose you could play the Wii version in Dolphin with mouse and keyboard to replicate what it would have been like, that might be worth looking into.
@@JangoTheBlueFox I tried that, but at 30fps, the mouse movement just feels wrong. And I think they're using some kind of interpolation on the reticle that makes it even worse. My personally favorite way to play the game is using the steam version played with a Switch controller using Gyro to simulate mouse movement. I don't even have to sacrifice analog controls since steamInput can be configured to only simulate the mouse when a button is pressed, which I of course set to the aim button. And the game is able to seamlessly blend KBM and Controller inputs so I can mix gyro and joystick input as necessary. So I can use the joystick for wide movements and use Gyro for precise adjustments.
RE2 and RE4 are the best by far story wise and gameplay. It’s just something about raccoon city for me. Great seeing my video there. Deeply appreciate it!
I think RE7 would be my favourite story wise, I love the more smaller scale and intimate look into a small and once loving family torn asunder inside and out by a horrifying BOW who is a pretty sad character themselves. Almost everyone is tragic in their own way and it got my feels really going while still being a pretty bonkers story about bioweapons, terrorist organisations and all that good cheese the RE games are known for. Plus I always love that rural southern setting - something about it just gets me giddy.
I still remember when I first got re4 at the store it was my birthday and for and for 14 year me this was the turning point in my life and the world of videogames never before had I played a game like re4 it was so revolutionary I had no idea what I was in for I had played the OG Resident Evil before but had no idea how this story and gameplay had progressed since PS1 re, re2, and Code Veronica And also the 2 outbreak games
25:35 Indie game dev here. So, my speculation for why the audio files are more compressed is likely due to the PS2's cpu and memory buffer being much smaller/limited than the GameCube. Regardless of storage, all audio files will need to uncompressed at run time, which the PS2 is not great for (this is a CPU task). Decompressing audio files at run time, and running multiple audio files simultaneously will take memory, and cpu calls. If you notice many PS2 games vs the competition, this is the case, and it's the only conclusion I can draw.
First time I played 4 on PC, as a PCMR nerd, I used arrow keys for aiming because the mouse aim felt weird and... it honestly made it SO much better. I can't believe I'm suggesting using arrow keys to aim over the mouse, but it was fantastic. And to add to your bit about the Wii controls, CoD4 on the wii remains my favorite CoD title ever.
Watching a new entry of your RE retrospective is like meeting with an old friend. After all, that's how I found your channel. Hope that TGS next week confirms the RE3 Nemesis Edition leak, and we'll indeed see you very soon on the Resident Evil retrospective.
I love that you were going to review every port but you just reviewed the game for the first 20 minutes. You have an it's complicated relationship with Resident Evil 4 . I love your reviews dude
Are you going to review the vr edition of this game? Would love to hear your thoughts on that version game since it’s going to be a almost completely different experience from that of the Wii version
I got the Oculus Quest 2 version last week. Holy crap. I can't believe they were able to do this in VR. It's perfect. Something so familiar is brand new at the same time. Classic battles. New controls. More hands on than the Wii version. Definitely worth buying an Oculus for. The cabin and shed battles are so sick.
I really hope they find a way to make it work on psvr even if it isn't as good as the quest 2 tech wise. I want re4 vr, but I don't really wanna buy a new head set for it. Loved doom 3 vr.
Regarding your criticism of Dynamic Difficulty: Professional difficulty locks the slider to its highest, making every encounter consistently the same difficulty. I know you have to unlock it first, but just letting you know. Also, the existence of Professional also means there is an actual maximum difficulty that you can master to effectively conquer the game.
Jared, I love you, bro. The amount of work and research you put into these videos is absolutely insane. You're the one UA-camr I wish I could have a beer with and shoot the shit about survival horror, which is my favorite genre of gaming since RE1. Two things: 1. You are the only other person than myself that I've heard admit that RE4 has the same controls, just from a different viewpoint. 2. This could just be me as it's been years since I played the PS2 version, but I remember some of the enemy character models having fewer polygons (look at their feet when they're laying on the ground, they're rectangles like in RE 1-3 lol) Keep up the amazing work, my dude.
Doing a quick google search (which led me to wikipedia), I found out that the Gamecube uses 16MB of external auxiliary ram for everything sound related, whereas the PS2 only has 2MB of "sound memory" (not a lot of details on this one). I don't know if this information is accurate or not, but if it is, then the audio compression would make sense to me, assuming this memory is used for loading sound effects on both consoles and not for something completely different
"....with what it did to a franchise up to a point" God i couldn't agree more. i love RE4 but i hate what it did to the series (outside of ya'know - keeping it alive ) i remember seeing the trailers for RE4 when it was in its weird 'progenitor virus' infecting Leon stages and being so excited to see that RE4... still one of the lost/beta RE titles id love to see more of one day~
@Emo Gamer R i definately agree with your points- code veronicas opening was pretty crazy, and dont get me wrong- i dont hate 4 at all- i just found the trailers for the re4 betas so interesting- and was a bit bummed out they just sorta poofed into the aether :( But upon 4s release i played through that gane about 30 times consecutively, i was absolutely hooked- it inly dawned on me later that the earlier trailers told a diffrent story... sorta like the early trailers of revelations :o Though i will admit, i shamelessly love resident evil zero xD i love the fixed cameras, its pre rendered backgrounds- basically everything that ISNT the hookshot... because ya'know- nobody loves the goddamn hookshot xD
my first experience with re4 actually was that 2007 PC port, my computer barely ran it at like maybe 20fps (it was a cheap all in one computer since I was 11 at the time) and I played it on a keyboard. somehow I ended up 100 percenting that version and unlocked all the special weapons. no idea how I did it looking back lol
I did the same, I remember playing it as far as I could unpatched too as there was missing fog and shadow effects which made it run better. XD Had to patch the game to finish though as there was a consistent crashing issue.
For my money the GameCube version still reigns supreme. I still don't think I've played a game with tighter controls than RE4 on the GameCube. That game was made for that controller. After all these years this game still maintains a top 3 position all time for me, love it!
The only reason why I didn't initially like RE4 on the PS2 was because I had owned the PS2 late in my high school life and had the GC for most and had to catch up to a lot of PS2 games and how the controller feel. For me, the GC controller is superior
The PS controller always felt just right in my hand. There are some games where the GC controller works really well with some games, but playing a ps2 or Xbox port on the GC is a nightmare. Games really need to be custom tuned to that controller.
I'm surprised how he didn't go into how any port past ps2, Separate Ways used the compressed 480i video files from the ps2 on said port. The cutscenes look like garbage on anything but the ps2 which is why he mentioned that the HD Project wanted to remaster the Separate Ways cutscenes
I talk about those cutscenes being pre rendered, but sort of towards the end. I do mention all of the ps2 cutscenes being that way, so technically it counts. HA!
@@AvalancheReviews Yeah, I caught that you mentioned the main game had pre rendered cutscenes but I must have missed you talking about the Separate Ways ones. Great video regardless minus the missing mention of professional mode or easy mode.
You talking about how weird the controls were on PS4 sent me for a whirl. My first playthrough was the Steam version of the game, and the default controls were so alien to me that even that modified one felt unnatural. I eventually got used to it, but I can’t imagine myself playing the game with the “classic” controls - especially now that I’ve played RE5, which basically uses that control scheme by default.
Another great video :) I remember wen the r.e 4 mobile port released I still have it on my old iphone. I bought the iphone last year specifically for the older mobile games u can no longer get lol. For what it's worth it was fun considering it was a mobile port
The HD Project guy is still working on it; just a few days ago got a mail saying that 1.0 incl the AI upscaled Separate Ways cutscenes will be out around christmas.
I find it very odd that the PS3 or heck even the PS4 version, doesn't have move controller support, so you can have that Wii controller style support. One thing I find kinda annoying about the PS4 version is that, they didn't bother changing/adding new PlayStation trophies including a platinum trophy.
About the dynamic difficulty critique, RE7 solved that problem perfectly, for example, madhouse difficulty only alternates between level 8 and 9(max), nothing below that, normal in between level 3 to 6(if I remember that correctly), the greater the level, the more it reduces damage dealt and increases damage taken(HP from enemies and Ethan stays the same, the damage alternates by percentages, 0.25x in level 9, 1x in level 4 or 5, 2x in level 1 or 2, just a few examples cuz I don't remember the exact values)
Hey man, great retrospective comparison on the infamous RE4 ports as always and was happy to catch you streaming on getting footage on this video too! Even though I already have the original GC, PS2, and PS3 ports of the game, you convinced me to check it out again on Steam. Guess theres always something new as each port goes on haha
@@AvalancheReviews Lucky for me, I saved before I shot him. So I just loaded my previous save. I think once he is dead, he is dead forever. There was a puzzle or something where I had no idea what the hell to do with Leon, so I just said the hell with it and shot him out of frustration 🎮😆🔫😱
Ps2 sales were super boosted by the fact that a cheap DVD player was over 300 dollars. By combining them Sony made the ps2 a no brainer. The GameCube was more powerful from a hardware standpoint and also had 4 controller ports, but the bad controller and no DVD player made it less desirable by parents that didn’t play games.
Anyone watching this today, the RE4 HD Project has released it's full 1.0 version in february 2022, and it's not just a texture pack, but also contains new models and effects.
As one of those people whos first experience with RE was through RE4 and consider it a masterpiece, I understand your frustration. I feel the exact same way about Breath of thr Wild.
The reason the audio is compressed and cutscenes are prerendered is because of performance issues, not storage. Think of it as having a lot of high-quality assets stored at once on less ram and processing them with a weaker CPU, perhaps the specs aren't so different but it being a port could make it hard to find an optimized way to replicate a feature. For cutscenes similarly, perhaps they couldn't replicate all the visual effects of the gamecube/they'd lag cutscenes with the higher quality models and more complex light effects, etc. And about the RE4 HD Project, the seams you saw are most likely gone by the next release of the mod (Hopefully by December) since they learned and polished more than what they did already. The mod also fixes quite a bit of glitches, inconsistencies, errors, etc on many places so it's not only a texture upgrade. Furthermore it's worth noting that it aims to be accurate to the Gamecube not the PC ultimate edition itself so colors match the cooler colors of the GC rather than the warmer colors of the ports, and the real pictures they used are either taken from the original texture libraries they used during development on the official game or photos they took in real life from the real places they got the textures from so if anything it is one of the most accurate HD mods ever give or take areas that lacked any details that needed more than just better textures.
I have it on PS4, but even with the small issues it has on Switch, I plan on double dipping because a full blown portable version of RE4 is a dream come true for me.
10:05 there is actually a quicktime even system that doesnt have flashing button prompts, in Prince of Persia The Two Thrones, you have to push the attack button when the dagger lights up for a moment, otherwise you fail the action. not sure if it could be implemented in RE4 in some ways, but atleast there is one
According to Leon's voice actor (Paul Mercier) In the castle version Leon was actually going to die in the end but only after his arm mutated into something kinda like Krausers does in the final version of the game.
i love the ps2 version :) Playing it once in a while. it has in my op the best gameplay (the ps2 controller is better than the gc controller), the game is harder on the ps2 than on the gamecube which is a plus for me, i like the challenge. Leons flashlight is on in the scary village part and looks more atmospheric. The audio is muddy yes, but at least it is not buggy as the later ports (all of them..a lot)... one example, the sniper rifel reloading sound doesnt match the visuals in the later ports. And as i say ther are so many audio bugs or visual bugs(reloading the assault shotgun, the bullets clip through the rifle) (weird 60fps and 30 fps visual effect mix looks awful)... I also think...the higher the resolution gets the worse the game look...takes away the atmosphere in my op, its a horror/action game. (same what happend to the silent hill hd version) there are more things why i prefer the ps2 version over all others, but im to lazy to write :D
On your comment on QTEs, the only game I say has done QTEs right was Legend of Dragoon. And that's because it only was added to make you more engaged with the battles. If you failed them, you did less damage with your additions, so it wasn't like you fail and die and have to repeat the section over again.
You mentioned dusting off 7th gen consoles - mine never got put away. That got me thinking. We're nearly at the 15th anniversary of the PS3 launch. You know what else was 15 years apart? The US launch of the NES and PS2 (well, 15 years + 1 week). By Thanksgiving, it will be a longer time since the release of PS3 than the space between the launches of the NES and PS2. How insane is it that PS3 titles continue to hold up the way they do? Anyways, thanks for this Jared. I've been looking forward to it since I saw the live stream pop-ups from your collection of the footage. Great content as always.
14:00 I thought that is what Professional mode is for? The difficulty is always set to max, which makes the game more consistent for speedrunners and for those wanting the hardest challenge, all the time. I don't remember there being forced widescreen on the PS2 port of the game, which is the first version that I played growing up out of high school, I think it was in 2005.
My first time playing RE4 was the original PC port and it was just a few years ago. It was the only version my PC could handle well enough. I'm sure if I go back to it not after playing better versions I'd realize the downgrades but at the time I didn't feel like I was playing a worse version of something. Bc it still is the full game. Even though I did notice the cutscenes were video files and lower resolution than the game and the onscreen QTE controller prompts were generic button icons that made me fail more often than anything else. I also got lucky that some beautiful mad lad uploaded a version to the high seas (I did own the Ultimate HD version legit btw) that was already as modded with fixes as available at the the time. But nothing in that run through ruined the experience for me or made me think I needed to get a PS4 and play the game there. That's how good of a game it is, even a compromised version made a fan.
9:20 So true - IF you can't manage to scale the size down and knock-off the epilepsy-inducing FlAsHiNg text.... You're giving me Dragon's Lair baby, we already did that dance.
@@AvalancheReviewsAnd it will be the true Ultimate HD and best version for sure obviously ^^ I use the 2018 patch and have follow since several years the eolutions..it amazed me to not some details ws made ONLY for gameplay not for being..well real ...and credible in fcat . I think the light who come of nowwhere by example in the gardern of Salazar... When you go there and saw the garden..you can notice that the dor have some light but..no chandler...and candle or other stuffs . Same for the sky very ..weird and that i have notice the first time i play on ps2..long time ago.. Or the mmon light can't reach the dor etc... I advertise you to look theirs videos they explains a lot for that. And this release will have indeed a famous NEW room EXCLUSIVE never saw before. Their was a hint for , a way that was not use by original developers. Sort of..Hall of fame
RE4 wasn’t the first RE game I played, but it was the first I was able to actually PLAY. My brain isn’t wired correctly for tank controls (or non-inverted y-axis but that’s a separate issue). I literally can’t “get used to it”. I was thankfully able to play 1 in the REmake.
When you look at the PS2 original it cuts corners with everything with models, background details and effects, but what i found strangest of it all is that it's the only version where the villagers can wear glasses.
Excellent 👌 I wish you had mentioned some mote facts about the PS2 port like the lower poly ingame character models, (especially for the enemies) removed props, seemingly different color pallette and removing the jiggle physics. Also believe it or not the 2007 PC port used to be sold on Steam and was delisted, it was still available for a while even after the modern "Ultimate" port was put on Steam. 😄
During a modern playthrough, that quick weapon switching feels so much like it should be there. If someone modded it into the game, I'd lose my shit. It would immediately become 100% more fun.
I recently decided to revisit this game for the first time in years (my last attempt at the game was the PS3 HD remaster back around 2013) with the goal of finally beating it and I ended up going with the Steam version after watching your video. So far I’m a few hours in and I gotta say that you were right about it being the best way to play the game. Especially with the HD Project mod, which I’m absolutely glad I downloaded since it lets you mess with the camera FOV so that the camera is no longer right on top of Leon.
You're so right about multiplats suffering on the PS2 because they're weren't designed for the platform. That's why the original PS2 version of Silent Hill 2 has some graphical advantages over later ports; it's because it was designed for the PS2 from the ground up and took advantage of the PS2's unique strengths.
PS2 version could only put up to 6 enemies on screen due to tech issues. The GC version was able to produce more enemies on screen. Can notice this in the village section. I remember noticing after playing both versions back to back way back in ‘06. Just an interesting fact.
It probably has been said in other comments... the original re4 pc port, the one from 2007, has an official patch that restores everything the ps2 version had, which means shaders, fog and everything else. There's still no reason to play that version today tho. Also, one thing that I found interesting but i'm not entirely sure of, is that every version of re4 released after the first one (gc) has some graphic effects turned off. It was the case even for the steam HD version, until somebody found some script of those effects turned off and showed them to the public. After a while, a new version came out with everything turned on. If I remember correctly (I read those threads on the steam forums back in the day), it was the first porting with every graphic effects turned on. I'm not even sure if the wii version had all of them. But, as I said, I may be wrong. Some years has passed after all :P
... Wasn't the DVD read speed on the PS2 slower then the disks on the GameCube, or something? So the sound stuff was a compromise to avoid longer load times? Not sure, been ages since I read that 'why' so might be my memory playing tricks, alas.
I hope you guys get a kick out of this one because it was a ton of "fun" to work on. If you're wondering why I sound odd towards the end, I had to get one tooth pulled and a root canal on a different tooth from the same side. So I had a hole in my gums and a temporary crown on one of my teeth. Couldn't quite get my mouth to do what I wanted. I'll sound normal next video. I promise. Also, I did some testing and it looks like my guess was correct. Those vertical bars in GameCube video output do seem to come from a low pass filter blurring the dithering. So if you own a Tink 5X, just turn your LPF off. Problem solved!
Thank you keep up the amazing work!
All good fam, keep up the good work and keep them videos coming!
Hope you'll get better soon, respect from Iraq✌️
Get well soon and take a look at the RE 1st person fan game!
where's the IOS and zeebo port?
RE4 is the only thing that makes me understand why people keep buying and replaying Skyrim
If only God Hand and Viewtiful Joe got the same treatment.
they do in this house
I do both
It's a shame vanilla Skyrim is absurdly boring, dull and has severe balance issues to the point where I'd rather just go back and play Morrowind again to dick about with mods and multiplayer.
But Re4 is actually a finished product and good. Skyrim is a boring glitchy mess
The Wii version of Dead Rising is made with the RE4 engine. I would love to hear what you think about it.
salut punky
That's really interesting, I didn't know DR on Wii was on a different engine
The Wii version was my favorite I always felt like I was the best at that version.
@@holylettuce4730 only cos they had to skim down on content so it would fit on a wii disc
@@kazer4 Capcom & TOSE had to skin it down because of the Wii's hardware limitations & was nothing to do with the amount of space that Wii discs could hold.
I believe not even Skyrim has as many ports as RE4.
Eat your heart out, Todd Howard.
he's out for that record
The PS5 and Xbox Series X/S game libraries just won't be complete or awesome without new RE4 ports.
RE4 have what 12 ports? Tetris have over 65 ;)
We need to port RE4 into Skyrim.
@@nobel11 I bet someone modded that in
I’m impressed you managed to cram all 12000 ports into one hour, well played me boy
We need to rally and get Jared an iPhone with RE4 for that maximum jankiness!
Don't forget the port to Frigidaire that came bundled with Skyrim!
@Luis Collado no one cares lol
@Luis Collado why? politics aren't important when it comes to entertainment at least not to me
@Luis Collado so? it won't change a thing to me
also let him believe what he wants to you might disagree but that doesn't make his opinions invalid or wrong or horrible whatever you want to call it rather then just reject it get into a discussion about it instead of just shutting it down
You forgot to mention that the GameCube version is the only one that has different damage values to weapons, mostly all do less damage IIRC. Broken B. maxed does 35 damage and 50 on every other release.
So in theory it’s the hardest version.
Amazing detailed video though, as usual.
Wow I did not know this...
I was thinking the new version would be the hardest because of 60fps, but not if this is the case for the Cube version
I remember hearing back in the day the weapon rebalancing actually started in the European release of the GameCube original (I swear I read about the likes of the Red9 and Rifle being buffed in Europe before the PS2 port released), but I'm having trouble finding sources to collaborate this.
I could probably boot up the EU version in Dolphin to check this, but meh.
Few games compete with RE4 in terms of replayability. I finished it dozens of times and yet I'm still not bored of it. What's funny is that in most of these times I wasn't even planning on finishing it, I just plan on dipping into it for a few minutes just to scratch an itch and the next thing you know I'm watching the end credits lol the progression of the game is just so well done. Once you pick it up it's so hard to put it down. Every new port that comes out is pretty much just an excuse for me to play through it again.
Ive been playing this game since 2006 and i never knew that you could close the well so the pendant doesnt get dirty 🤦🏽♂️. Still suprising me all these years later lol
:)
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Reading this comment and had no idea. That’s sick
One of my favorite details it’s so silly and unnecessary
It's strangely poetic that the VR release gets a confirmed release date right after you post this.
I thought the same
Would love to play the vr version
it's such a good game and it was my introduction to resident evil games besides for resident evil Revaluations 3ds demo.
Then remake and they retconned whole story & characters...
Now theyre all bland now.
24:21 The difference in audio sample fidelity has less to do with the capacity of the storage medium and more to do with the amount of audio RAM each platform had available to keep those samples on hand in. The GameCube had a luxurious 16MB of audio cache while the PS2 had to manage with a paltry 2MB.
Note: The GameCube's actual audio ram was an even smaller 8KB, but most games would read in samples as needed from the cache.
You also have to account for all the prerendered videos taking up disc space too. I'd bet that's a problem as well.
I've been wondering if you'd ever get to this topic, since RE4 and Skyrim are on the same level of different ports. Nicely done, man.
Even then Skyrim and RE4 don't even hold a candle to Doom. Because the source code is so readily available for that game and it's so low spec, people have been porting that to literally everything. Now imagine playing RE4 on a pregnancy test because someone got Doom running on that, please release the source code Capcom.
I've lost count of how many streams I've watched of you gathering footage for this video but I loved every second of it. This video is basically the dessert after the buffet of streams.
Adaptive difficult doesn't apply for Professional, that's why it's the chosen one for speedrun, consistency
I love hearing the Wii version getting some love. It was always my favourite and especially loved the reloading sounds coming from the remote..even if it was jank as hell
The whole complaint about the adaptive difficulty is easily remedied if you play on professional. There's no adaptive difficulty it just stays the same.
Wdym? It's one of the only games thst uses adaptive difficulty well.
@@insertnamehere658 I never said it didnt.
Except that you take twice as much damage. If only there was a way to play with professional mode settings, without the damage multiplier change. (Not that I can't beat professional mode, beaten it several times)
@@MattAkiyama1 I'm just happy we got resident evil 4.
That's great to hear, that someone is actually making a higher and clearer resolution on the *Separate Ways* cutscenes
48:23 Yeahhhh Rewind Mike gets some love! There are dozens of us marking out. DOZENS!
At the very least
Hundreds even!
Before I watch, my favorite way is the wii version on a crt. Wii mote aiming makes the game so easy but it's so fun. Wanna see how it stacks up.
The Re4 HD project modder has a UA-cam channel and is consistently updating stuff in the game and he's nearly finished including all pre-rendered cutscenes, separate ways, the mercenaries, and also assignment ada. The modder youtube channel is named "Albert Marin" and he's spanish that's why we don't see him often. His work is very unprecedented and he deserves credit for his passion in the game.
Not gonna lie, the hype leading up to 4's release was real. People, who didn't even play video games were talking about. And that was just in secondary school. And I have to agree with you on what it did for the rest of the franchise. Didn't stop me from enjoying those games either, but I know exactly what you mean.
Nice! It's good to see a few people feel the same way.
RE4 is my favorite game of all time, nothing can replace those days when me and my buddies were all playing it concurrently, swapping stories and notes, absolute gem, an action adventure with great characters, sass, mystery and fun, keep going back to it every few years to relive that nostalgia. Also a fan of the other RE games for sure, but this is just the sweet spot of the franchise for a born in 1980 kid like myself
Honestly, I find the original to be a little more fun for a repeat playthrough than the remake. There was definitely something special about this one. Also, big fan! Awesome to have you in my comment section dawg!
Still bugs me why the Switch version of RE4 lacks motion control despite RE5/6/Rev1/Rev2 having them on the same console...:(
Oh hell yeah! My most played RE title! Thank you Jared! Your voice is so relaxing and helps me with my anxiety/panic attacks. You are amazing!
Happy to help my man! I'm glad these videos can offer that kind of a service to people.
@@AvalancheReviews Omg! I didn't even get notified you responded! Thank you! You are kind of like an older brother to me. If that makes sense. You give me comfort when I am having a bad day! Keep up the great work!
That Evo Moment 37 mention was unexpected..but welcome.
That being said RE4 did introduce some mechanics that ended up turning off fans of the series as time went on
Like?
everything in the PS2 version is downgraded simply because the hardware isn't as powerful as Gamecube. the extra storage space of the PS2's DVDs doesn't matter when the console can't render the original assets. there were alot more differences than the one's you covered. as an example alot of assets in the environments have been removed and every model has a lower polygon count, plus the lower resolution textures. this is why all the cutscenes were turned in to pre-rendered videos, the PS2 wasn't capable of rending the high quality models used in the cutscenes.
yes exact due to his very poor VRAM that was... 4 ...Mo
Cube have 16 Mo something like that
I advertise the Steam mdded version who is the better to all levels. And is finish almost (main game/Mercenaries and Separate ways...just wait for the extra costumes etc ..but 95% in done)
Rest just the pre rendered cutscen. Actualy a programmer is trying to fix them..He is the one tha Albert hire for.
I play the old 2018 patch HD ndrl
Yes! In addition, audio takes a lot more than just storage. Audio files can affect performance just as much as graphics. Unfortunately, there aren't as many methods of optimization/compression to audio as there are with visual assets like textures and models. To makes matters more unfortunate, audio codecs in 2004-2005 weren't as clean and lightweight as they are today.
Did you once mention that there are more enemies on screen in the gamecube version? The PS2 had an enemy on screen limit.
Interestingly the hookman build spawned haunting grounds for the ps2, an amazing game with the hookman being a persuer that cant be killed only stunned and it being in a huge castle being the same, re4 even references haunting grounds with the dog you rescue from the bare trap which has the same model as huey the dog from that game :)
It's actually the Castle/Fog build where Haunting Grounds spawned from! The credited "draft" scenario writer for Haunting Grounds (Noboru Sugimura) was writing for RE4 during the Castle build, and when it was scrapped the script he made was donated to Production Studio 1, who later went on to do HG (this is the story told by the Resident Evil wiki on Fandom anyway).
I think the pursuer concept probably originated specifically from Clock Tower 3; Capcom had some experience with the IP through that entry of the series, and I've heard HG described as a spiritual successor to CT3.
speaking of the Ultimate HD release I wish that version used the Wii Remote aiming mechanics for the mouse and keyboard. using the mouse to control the on screen reticle and the ASWD keys to move the camera while aiming would have provided that version of the game with significantly more accurate aiming than what was included.
Honestly, i think that would have been pretty damn awesome.
@@AvalancheReviews Wii remote aiming mechanics are generally on par with mouse aiming so when the Ultimate HD version was announced I was expecting it to pull those mechanics from the Wii version, I was disappointed when it didn't. although I suppose you could play the Wii version in Dolphin with mouse and keyboard to replicate what it would have been like, that might be worth looking into.
@@JangoTheBlueFox I tried that, but at 30fps, the mouse movement just feels wrong. And I think they're using some kind of interpolation on the reticle that makes it even worse. My personally favorite way to play the game is using the steam version played with a Switch controller using Gyro to simulate mouse movement. I don't even have to sacrifice analog controls since steamInput can be configured to only simulate the mouse when a button is pressed, which I of course set to the aim button. And the game is able to seamlessly blend KBM and Controller inputs so I can mix gyro and joystick input as necessary. So I can use the joystick for wide movements and use Gyro for precise adjustments.
RE2 and RE4 are the best by far story wise and gameplay. It’s just something about raccoon city for me. Great seeing my video there. Deeply appreciate it!
No prob! Thanks for giving me the ok to use it.
I think RE7 would be my favourite story wise, I love the more smaller scale and intimate look into a small and once loving family torn asunder inside and out by a horrifying BOW who is a pretty sad character themselves. Almost everyone is tragic in their own way and it got my feels really going while still being a pretty bonkers story about bioweapons, terrorist organisations and all that good cheese the RE games are known for. Plus I always love that rural southern setting - something about it just gets me giddy.
RE 4's story is rushed.
Babe wake up Avalanche put out a new RE video
I still remember when I first got re4 at the store it was my birthday and for and for 14 year me this was the turning point in my life and the world of videogames never before had I played a game like re4 it was so revolutionary I had no idea what I was in for I had played the OG Resident Evil before but had no idea how this story and gameplay had progressed since PS1 re, re2, and Code Veronica
And also the 2 outbreak games
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Indie game dev here. So, my speculation for why the audio files are more compressed is likely due to the PS2's cpu and memory buffer being much smaller/limited than the GameCube.
Regardless of storage, all audio files will need to uncompressed at run time, which the PS2 is not great for (this is a CPU task). Decompressing audio files at run time, and running multiple audio files simultaneously will take memory, and cpu calls.
If you notice many PS2 games vs the competition, this is the case, and it's the only conclusion I can draw.
First time I played 4 on PC, as a PCMR nerd, I used arrow keys for aiming because the mouse aim felt weird and... it honestly made it SO much better. I can't believe I'm suggesting using arrow keys to aim over the mouse, but it was fantastic.
And to add to your bit about the Wii controls, CoD4 on the wii remains my favorite CoD title ever.
Watching a new entry of your RE retrospective is like meeting with an old friend. After all, that's how I found your channel. Hope that TGS next week confirms the RE3 Nemesis Edition leak, and we'll indeed see you very soon on the Resident Evil retrospective.
The ps2 port was far inferior to the GameCube version. Worse visuals and less enemy’s able to populate on screen.
I love that you were going to review every port but you just reviewed the game for the first 20 minutes. You have an it's complicated relationship with Resident Evil 4 . I love your reviews dude
Complicated. That's a good way to put it. HA!
I'm loving this video so far, can't wait for your infinite Darkness review.
Are you going to review the vr edition of this game? Would love to hear your thoughts on that version game since it’s going to be a almost completely different experience from that of the Wii version
I got the Oculus Quest 2 version last week. Holy crap. I can't believe they were able to do this in VR. It's perfect. Something so familiar is brand new at the same time. Classic battles. New controls. More hands on than the Wii version. Definitely worth buying an Oculus for. The cabin and shed battles are so sick.
I really hope they find a way to make it work on psvr even if it isn't as good as the quest 2 tech wise. I want re4 vr, but I don't really wanna buy a new head set for it. Loved doom 3 vr.
Hey some people bought a Nintendo Wii just for Wii Sports. This is definitely worth the $300 to play Resident Evil 4 again with the immersion.
Honestly bullshit they are remaking RE4 instead of Code Veronica.
Well to be honest all talk about a RE4 remake is just rumours still.
@@Henrik_Holst I think it was pretty much confirmed in the latest NVIDIA leaks but yes you are correct.
Womp womp
Regarding your criticism of Dynamic Difficulty: Professional difficulty locks the slider to its highest, making every encounter consistently the same difficulty. I know you have to unlock it first, but just letting you know. Also, the existence of Professional also means there is an actual maximum difficulty that you can master to effectively conquer the game.
Solid point.
Another plus of the Switch version is that you can hook up a GameCube controller (using the Smash usb-adapter) for a close-to-original feel but in HD!
That's a good point. I didn't even think about that.
I feel like this video is a part of me since I watched every livestream you did for footage.
Jared, I love you, bro. The amount of work and research you put into these videos is absolutely insane. You're the one UA-camr I wish I could have a beer with and shoot the shit about survival horror, which is my favorite genre of gaming since RE1. Two things:
1. You are the only other person than myself that I've heard admit that RE4 has the same controls, just from a different viewpoint.
2. This could just be me as it's been years since I played the PS2 version, but I remember some of the enemy character models having fewer polygons (look at their feet when they're laying on the ground, they're rectangles like in RE 1-3 lol)
Keep up the amazing work, my dude.
Ha! Great minds think alike! Looking back on the footage, I think you're right. Crazy how I didn't notice that.
Doing a quick google search (which led me to wikipedia), I found out that the Gamecube uses 16MB of external auxiliary ram for everything sound related, whereas the PS2 only has 2MB of "sound memory" (not a lot of details on this one). I don't know if this information is accurate or not, but if it is, then the audio compression would make sense to me, assuming this memory is used for loading sound effects on both consoles and not for something completely different
"....with what it did to a franchise up to a point"
God i couldn't agree more. i love RE4 but i hate what it did to the series (outside of ya'know - keeping it alive ) i remember seeing the trailers for RE4 when it was in its weird 'progenitor virus' infecting Leon stages and being so excited to see that RE4... still one of the lost/beta RE titles id love to see more of one day~
@Emo Gamer R i definately agree with your points- code veronicas opening was pretty crazy, and dont get me wrong- i dont hate 4 at all- i just found the trailers for the re4 betas so interesting- and was a bit bummed out they just sorta poofed into the aether :(
But upon 4s release i played through that gane about 30 times consecutively, i was absolutely hooked- it inly dawned on me later that the earlier trailers told a diffrent story... sorta like the early trailers of revelations :o
Though i will admit, i shamelessly love resident evil zero xD i love the fixed cameras, its pre rendered backgrounds- basically everything that ISNT the hookshot... because ya'know- nobody loves the goddamn hookshot xD
Just when I needed a little pick me up. More RE content is always appreciated
my first experience with re4 actually was that 2007 PC port, my computer barely ran it at like maybe 20fps (it was a cheap all in one computer since I was 11 at the time) and I played it on a keyboard. somehow I ended up 100 percenting that version and unlocked all the special weapons. no idea how I did it looking back lol
I did the same, I remember playing it as far as I could unpatched too as there was missing fog and shadow effects which made it run better. XD Had to patch the game to finish though as there was a consistent crashing issue.
Man thanks for being so passionate about games and for making these amazing videos... Gems for the future.... Saludos desde Colombia!
For my money the GameCube version still reigns supreme. I still don't think I've played a game with tighter controls than RE4 on the GameCube. That game was made for that controller. After all these years this game still maintains a top 3 position all time for me, love it!
lol this video's ending aged well. They did go on to make a VR port and remake lol
The only reason why I didn't initially like RE4 on the PS2 was because I had owned the PS2 late in my high school life and had the GC for most and had to catch up to a lot of PS2 games and how the controller feel. For me, the GC controller is superior
The PS controller always felt just right in my hand. There are some games where the GC controller works really well with some games, but playing a ps2 or Xbox port on the GC is a nightmare. Games really need to be custom tuned to that controller.
I'm surprised how he didn't go into how any port past ps2, Separate Ways used the compressed 480i video files from the ps2 on said port. The cutscenes look like garbage on anything but the ps2 which is why he mentioned that the HD Project wanted to remaster the Separate Ways cutscenes
I talk about those cutscenes being pre rendered, but sort of towards the end. I do mention all of the ps2 cutscenes being that way, so technically it counts. HA!
@@AvalancheReviews Yeah, I caught that you mentioned the main game had pre rendered cutscenes but I must have missed you talking about the Separate Ways ones. Great video regardless minus the missing mention of professional mode or easy mode.
You talking about how weird the controls were on PS4 sent me for a whirl. My first playthrough was the Steam version of the game, and the default controls were so alien to me that even that modified one felt unnatural. I eventually got used to it, but I can’t imagine myself playing the game with the “classic” controls - especially now that I’ve played RE5, which basically uses that control scheme by default.
Another great video :) I remember wen the r.e 4 mobile port released I still have it on my old iphone. I bought the iphone last year specifically for the older mobile games u can no longer get lol. For what it's worth it was fun considering it was a mobile port
Re 4 VR got missed
The HD Project guy is still working on it; just a few days ago got a mail saying that 1.0 incl the AI upscaled Separate Ways cutscenes will be out around christmas.
I find it very odd that the PS3 or heck even the PS4 version, doesn't have move controller support, so you can have that Wii controller style support. One thing I find kinda annoying about the PS4 version is that, they didn't bother changing/adding new PlayStation trophies including a platinum trophy.
it also is bs considering the ps3 version of re5 has move support
@@theironquack I KNOW RIGHT!? But the PS4 version of resi 5 doesn't lol
@@CucasNerdyCorner i actually prefer the re4 wii version for the motion controls
13:00 This is the briefcase of a certified knife-fighter 👍
About the dynamic difficulty critique, RE7 solved that problem perfectly, for example, madhouse difficulty only alternates between level 8 and 9(max), nothing below that, normal in between level 3 to 6(if I remember that correctly), the greater the level, the more it reduces damage dealt and increases damage taken(HP from enemies and Ethan stays the same, the damage alternates by percentages, 0.25x in level 9, 1x in level 4 or 5, 2x in level 1 or 2, just a few examples cuz I don't remember the exact values)
Hey man, great retrospective comparison on the infamous RE4 ports as always and was happy to catch you streaming on getting footage on this video too! Even though I already have the original GC, PS2, and PS3 ports of the game, you convinced me to check it out again on Steam. Guess theres always something new as each port goes on haha
Fun Fact: Another great video! Did you know you can kill The Merchant in RE4? I had no idea you could do this until I shot him 🎮😆🔫😱
That was one of those things I found out about on the internet wayyyy after I beat it. I never even thought to shoot at him.
@@AvalancheReviews Lucky for me, I saved before I shot him. So I just loaded my previous save. I think once he is dead, he is dead forever. There was a puzzle or something where I had no idea what the hell to do with Leon, so I just said the hell with it and shot him out of frustration 🎮😆🔫😱
Ps2 sales were super boosted by the fact that a cheap DVD player was over 300 dollars. By combining them Sony made the ps2 a no brainer. The GameCube was more powerful from a hardware standpoint and also had 4 controller ports, but the bad controller and no DVD player made it less desirable by parents that didn’t play games.
3:37 LOL THIS IS SUCH A TRUE STATEMENT I LOVE IT
Anyone watching this today, the RE4 HD Project has released it's full 1.0 version in february 2022, and it's not just a texture pack, but also contains new models and effects.
As one of those people whos first experience with RE was through RE4 and consider it a masterpiece, I understand your frustration. I feel the exact same way about Breath of thr Wild.
Glad my complaining didn't make you leave the video at the 30 sec mark.
I hate how weapons break in BoTW.
The reason the audio is compressed and cutscenes are prerendered is because of performance issues, not storage. Think of it as having a lot of high-quality assets stored at once on less ram and processing them with a weaker CPU, perhaps the specs aren't so different but it being a port could make it hard to find an optimized way to replicate a feature. For cutscenes similarly, perhaps they couldn't replicate all the visual effects of the gamecube/they'd lag cutscenes with the higher quality models and more complex light effects, etc.
And about the RE4 HD Project, the seams you saw are most likely gone by the next release of the mod (Hopefully by December) since they learned and polished more than what they did already. The mod also fixes quite a bit of glitches, inconsistencies, errors, etc on many places so it's not only a texture upgrade. Furthermore it's worth noting that it aims to be accurate to the Gamecube not the PC ultimate edition itself so colors match the cooler colors of the GC rather than the warmer colors of the ports, and the real pictures they used are either taken from the original texture libraries they used during development on the official game or photos they took in real life from the real places they got the textures from so if anything it is one of the most accurate HD mods ever give or take areas that lacked any details that needed more than just better textures.
I have it on PS4, but even with the small issues it has on Switch, I plan on double dipping because a full blown portable version of RE4 is a dream come true for me.
Android emulation on dolphin is pretty good now if you have a phone that is powerful enough
@@johnking9999emulated re4 via dolphin doesnt require that much of a good phone lol
10:05 there is actually a quicktime even system that doesnt have flashing button prompts, in Prince of Persia The Two Thrones, you have to push the attack button when the dagger lights up for a moment, otherwise you fail the action. not sure if it could be implemented in RE4 in some ways, but atleast there is one
According to Leon's voice actor (Paul Mercier) In the castle version Leon was actually going to die in the end but only after his arm mutated into something kinda like Krausers does in the final version of the game.
i love the ps2 version :)
Playing it once in a while.
it has in my op the best gameplay (the ps2 controller is better than the gc controller), the game is harder on the ps2 than on the gamecube which is a plus for me, i like the challenge.
Leons flashlight is on in the scary village part and looks more atmospheric.
The audio is muddy yes, but at least it is not buggy as the later ports (all of them..a lot)...
one example, the sniper rifel reloading sound doesnt match the visuals in the later ports.
And as i say ther are so many audio bugs or visual bugs(reloading the assault shotgun, the bullets clip through the rifle) (weird 60fps and 30 fps visual effect mix looks awful)...
I also think...the higher the resolution gets the worse the game look...takes away the atmosphere in my op, its a horror/action game. (same what happend to the silent hill hd version)
there are more things why i prefer the ps2 version over all others, but im to lazy to write :D
On your comment on QTEs, the only game I say has done QTEs right was Legend of Dragoon. And that's because it only was added to make you more engaged with the battles. If you failed them, you did less damage with your additions, so it wasn't like you fail and die and have to repeat the section over again.
Can wait to see a remaster of this video covering the re4 vr port
The bit about perfect parrying chun legs was great. Love the content man!
Jesus christ ...practically feature length...great work as always man!
You mentioned dusting off 7th gen consoles - mine never got put away. That got me thinking.
We're nearly at the 15th anniversary of the PS3 launch. You know what else was 15 years apart? The US launch of the NES and PS2 (well, 15 years + 1 week). By Thanksgiving, it will be a longer time since the release of PS3 than the space between the launches of the NES and PS2. How insane is it that PS3 titles continue to hold up the way they do?
Anyways, thanks for this Jared. I've been looking forward to it since I saw the live stream pop-ups from your collection of the footage. Great content as always.
That fact makes me feel double old. HA!!!
14:00 I thought that is what Professional mode is for? The difficulty is always set to max, which makes the game more consistent for speedrunners and for those wanting the hardest challenge, all the time. I don't remember there being forced widescreen on the PS2 port of the game, which is the first version that I played growing up out of high school, I think it was in 2005.
I love that joeypocket reference for the switch joke
My first time playing RE4 was the original PC port and it was just a few years ago. It was the only version my PC could handle well enough.
I'm sure if I go back to it not after playing better versions I'd realize the downgrades but at the time I didn't feel like I was playing a worse version of something. Bc it still is the full game.
Even though I did notice the cutscenes were video files and lower resolution than the game and the onscreen QTE controller prompts were generic button icons that made me fail more often than anything else.
I also got lucky that some beautiful mad lad uploaded a version to the high seas (I did own the Ultimate HD version legit btw) that was already as modded with fixes as available at the the time.
But nothing in that run through ruined the experience for me or made me think I needed to get a PS4 and play the game there. That's how good of a game it is, even a compromised version made a fan.
WHAT!? I thought I knew every thing about re4 but the fact you can change it to 480p on ps2 is nuts
I love the zuit suit costume Leon has and matched up with the Chicago type writer that’s a true cool charactor
51:20 The HD textures project actually tracked down a lot of the original source photos.
9:20 So true - IF you can't manage to scale the size down and knock-off the epilepsy-inducing FlAsHiNg text....
You're giving me Dragon's Lair baby, we already did that dance.
And just like that my day got so much better.
You GOTTA do RE4 VR. It's one of the best games I've played in my entire life
Its like playing resi4 all over again
RE4 HD Project is about to release at the end of this year hopefully. Fella went all out and upgraded everything in the game, even cutscenes etc.
God, I can only imagine how hefty that download will be then!
@@AvalancheReviewsAnd it will be the true Ultimate HD and best version for sure obviously ^^ I use the 2018 patch and have follow since several years the eolutions..it amazed me to not some details ws made ONLY for gameplay not for being..well real ...and credible in fcat . I think the light who come of nowwhere by example in the gardern of Salazar...
When you go there and saw the garden..you can notice that the dor have some light but..no chandler...and candle or other stuffs . Same for the sky very ..weird and that i have notice the first time i play on ps2..long time ago..
Or the mmon light can't reach the dor etc...
I advertise you to look theirs videos they explains a lot for that.
And this release will have indeed a famous NEW room EXCLUSIVE never saw before.
Their was a hint for , a way that was not use by original developers.
Sort of..Hall of fame
RE4 wasn’t the first RE game I played, but it was the first I was able to actually PLAY. My brain isn’t wired correctly for tank controls (or non-inverted y-axis but that’s a separate issue). I literally can’t “get used to it”. I was thankfully able to play 1 in the REmake.
When you look at the PS2 original it cuts corners with everything with models, background details and effects, but what i found strangest of it all is that it's the only version where the villagers can wear glasses.
Excellent 👌
I wish you had mentioned some mote facts about the PS2 port like the lower poly ingame character models, (especially for the enemies) removed props, seemingly different color pallette and removing the jiggle physics. Also believe it or not the 2007 PC port used to be sold on Steam and was delisted, it was still available for a while even after the modern "Ultimate" port was put on Steam. 😄
yo who were the touring bands in your area staying over you mentioned?
I like how he did this review then 4 days later they release the vr version
The only thing the series still lacks is the ability to move while shooting and a quick weapon switch feature through the d-pad.
During a modern playthrough, that quick weapon switching feels so much like it should be there. If someone modded it into the game, I'd lose my shit. It would immediately become 100% more fun.
RE4 on PS2 may not be the best version, but it was the one I played first. So I have to at least give it that.
It's the version most played.
I recently decided to revisit this game for the first time in years (my last attempt at the game was the PS3 HD remaster back around 2013) with the goal of finally beating it and I ended up going with the Steam version after watching your video. So far I’m a few hours in and I gotta say that you were right about it being the best way to play the game. Especially with the HD Project mod, which I’m absolutely glad I downloaded since it lets you mess with the camera FOV so that the camera is no longer right on top of Leon.
You're so right about multiplats suffering on the PS2 because they're weren't designed for the platform. That's why the original PS2 version of Silent Hill 2 has some graphical advantages over later ports; it's because it was designed for the PS2 from the ground up and took advantage of the PS2's unique strengths.
You can always tell a man of culture in RE4. They end the game with the Red9, without the stock.
PS2 version could only put up to 6 enemies on screen due to tech issues. The GC version was able to produce more enemies on screen. Can notice this in the village section. I remember noticing after playing both versions back to back way back in ‘06. Just an interesting fact.
It probably has been said in other comments... the original re4 pc port, the one from 2007, has an official patch that restores everything the ps2 version had, which means shaders, fog and everything else. There's still no reason to play that version today tho.
Also, one thing that I found interesting but i'm not entirely sure of, is that every version of re4 released after the first one (gc) has some graphic effects turned off.
It was the case even for the steam HD version, until somebody found some script of those effects turned off and showed them to the public. After a while, a new version came out with everything turned on. If I remember correctly (I read those threads on the steam forums back in the day), it was the first porting with every graphic effects turned on. I'm not even sure if the wii version had all of them.
But, as I said, I may be wrong. Some years has passed after all :P
The Zeebo/iOS RE4 "port" is also available on android
... Wasn't the DVD read speed on the PS2 slower then the disks on the GameCube, or something? So the sound stuff was a compromise to avoid longer load times?
Not sure, been ages since I read that 'why' so might be my memory playing tricks, alas.