Ranking Every Death Battle Episode (Part 9)

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  • @JonathanFrostathan
    @JonathanFrostathan  11 місяців тому +20

    *HEY*
    Music list:
    docs.google.com/document/d/15fTgxM8is6g8efUbzrptSmP54IGdVL_Sr3dCU6tPDi0/edit?usp=sharing
    Not too much to say again, but here's the Hercules vs Sun Wukong analysis by Jim McClanahan:
    journeytothewestresearch.com/2022/06/18/hercules-vs-sun-wukong-death-battle-analysis/
    Death Battle Cast episodes cited:
    ua-cam.com/video/n5rNonRnH9Q/v-deo.html
    Trunks vs Silver Q&A by ultraguy:
    ulltraguy.blogspot.com/2022/10/silver-vs-trunks-q-and-a.html
    Death Battle storyboards by John Mitchell:
    www.deviantart.com/universal-fro/art/Harley-vs-Jinx-DEATH-BATTLE-Boards-911384352
    www.deviantart.com/universal-fro/art/Thor-vs-Vegeta-DEATH-BATTLE-Boards-915676112
    www.deviantart.com/universal-fro/art/Magneto-VS-Tetsuo-DEATH-BATTLE-Boards-918547214
    www.deviantart.com/universal-fro/art/Excalibur-VS-Raiden-DEATH-BATTLE-Boards-922267078
    www.deviantart.com/universal-fro/art/James-Bond-vs-John-Wick-DEATH-BATTLE-Boards-928541501
    www.deviantart.com/universal-fro/art/Jason-VS-Michael-DEATH-BATTLE-Boards-935230823

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 11 місяців тому +1

      Oh! I was wondering where you found the storyboards!

    • @akirayamaguchithekitsune4010
      @akirayamaguchithekitsune4010 11 місяців тому +1

      btw when are you going to voice in Death Battle

    • @angrybrony
      @angrybrony 11 місяців тому +2

      you referenced the best tales game so you're now my favorite death battle youtuber.

    • @janisrivera229
      @janisrivera229 11 місяців тому +1

      Well it’s glad I’m not the only one who loves Jason vs Michael 2:14:20

  • @grumpo89
    @grumpo89 11 місяців тому +148

    According to Liam, Omnilander took place during Christmas solely because it was around Christmas time when he wrote the fight. I found that rather amusing.

  • @diputsnoob3815
    @diputsnoob3815 11 місяців тому +55

    As both My Hero and Black Clover fan, you can't imagine how that episode pissed me off. What should've been All Might vs Might Guy successor, a friendly sparring match between 2 boys got butchered. Not only both series is in final arc (they both still got new power up after the episode) but Asta is completely mischaracterized and Deku got brutal death
    Deku barely uses any smash moves, does not combine multiple quirks while Asta only uses one named move and does not uses his strongest move in final clash
    Asta doesn't scream for no reason, he has inferiority complex. He grew up with no power, got discriminated while everybody have power. Hence he scream to remind himself to not give up.
    2:51:30
    About Ki sensing. Everybody has magic sensing except Asta, but he is one of 2 characters that can use Ki sensing to compensate for lack of magic sensing. It activate 24/7, so that's why most people really hate the death scene when he supposed to know Deku is dead. Heck they show panel where asta dodge light when he's sleeping
    His fighting style is reacting to the battle with ki sensing, find opening and deal one devastating blow yet they reduced him to dumb brute

    • @diputsnoob3815
      @diputsnoob3815 11 місяців тому +1

      Been binging your entire season ranking, looking forward for season 10. Best Season

    • @mangamandrew
      @mangamandrew 11 місяців тому +3

      To be fair for Deku and his quirks, the ability to use multiple quirks is not something that can be visibly done on such a smaller interaction such as this. When this was released, the most combination we got was OFA, Black whip, and fa gin. And gear shift was only recently revealed and we did not get much of that. And even then, we did not really get quirk combinations until this episode released.
      And while Deku does have a lot of different smashes, Detroit is his most well known and his final smash is his strongest.

    • @buttmuncher-cm5tl
      @buttmuncher-cm5tl 11 місяців тому

      Imagine being a mha fan...

    • @diputsnoob3815
      @diputsnoob3815 11 місяців тому +1

      @@buttmuncher-cm5tl at least deku got treated way better than asta

    • @buttmuncher-cm5tl
      @buttmuncher-cm5tl 11 місяців тому

      @@diputsnoob3815 naw go be with the fans who harrased the creator of mha over deku not fucking bakugo. Ill just go watch a good super hero show.. the justice league cartoon

  • @RaccoonBroVA
    @RaccoonBroVA 11 місяців тому +38

    -I love LOVE all the Magneto vs Tetsuo love in this ranking!
    -I think Wiz was just referring to Boomstick being really drunk during the Sun analysis, but it came off as weird structuring since the wife part was last.
    -Yes I am still peeved that that's my highest viewed video despite being zero effort, thanks for asking!
    -It took me until now to realize the time stop effects you do is an actual power you have.
    -I'm not sure who this racconbrova person is are why I should subscribe to them, but raccoonbrova is pretty based if you ask me, lol
    -The whole breakdown of the death of the author with Ian Flynn was super refreshing to see.
    -Sauron vs Lich King love, we love to see it! It probably could've been my favorite episode too if I was more into high fantasy.
    -Even though I put Deku vs Asta at the lowest rank in my review, sometimes I still wonder if I was too easy on it.
    -Glad to see 3 of my favorites make it into the supreme tier!
    -Oh ho ho ho ho, we are not ready for next time!
    -Here's my interpretation of the portal scene. Aquaman just got done being molly-wopped by some random sea sponge with the IQ of a door mat, and all of his attacks were rendered useless. Not to mention the source of his power was completely drained, so he's not only physically weak, he's going through a lot mentally, and likely suffering from a lack of hydration. And then a portal opens up, and while it would've been nice seeing them do stuff (probably a budget thing), all it took was him seeing other Aqua men for a second to tell that they were way cooler than him, likely not even needing water to live unlike him. While this is likely something that's never been explored in his original series, Saitama had a similar moment of unique character development that managed to still feel in line with his themes. In this story, Aquaman tried to be an awesome hero but failed at every turn, and this had his will tested like never before in a very unique situation. Have I ever been a real hero? That's what makes Spongebob's speech so impactful to me, because it's likely the first time Aquaman has ever been able to relate to anyone in this way before of not feeling adequate to everyone's standards. I also don't interpret the trident stab as a dick move, that was just him setting the stage for the final phase of the fight and needed to be quick for time constraints. And his change in attitude from trying to be cool taking down a villain to having a friendly sparring match with a kindred spirit is complimented by the fact that he actually does get to do some cool stuff here and manages to hang in there for a bit, even getting off some big brained strategies. Also goes without saying, but major major disagree on the "I'm ready" line delivery, I still stand by what I said in my video of it being my favorite line read in all of Death Battle, and I'll die on that hill, lol.

    • @vaggos2003
      @vaggos2003 2 місяці тому +1

      Dear God, considering how based generally your content is, a low-effort shitpost being your most viewed video just sucks already as is (The Rappter sympathises with you, btw, at least I pressume), but the fact that it's a shitpost of the community unironically and unshamefully celebrating a character getting misrepresented and (obviously, unintentionally) spited and humiliated just because they didn't like how she was portrayed in a few specific pieces of media (half of them are about her adaptations and not her comic self, btw) makes it so much worse. Seriously, most Wanda haters justify their stance of the character with some version of "bUt HoUsE oF m" and treat that awful story arc as it being somehow "in character" for her and not the ginormous chatacter assassination it is. This is a worse version of the akready bad Carol Danvers discourse all over again.
      But I guess characters getting disrespected is only bad when the community likes a character apparently. 🙄
      And the fact that this episode and Deku vs Asta came out in a modern Death Battle season and on the same season as Sauron vs Lich King, Magneto vs Tetsuo, Omni-man vs Homelander and Trunks vs Silver (the latter one having a GOATED Silver portrayal for way more reasons than just "making Silver cool", Silver was always cool, but for also being very accurate to Silver's great arc in Archie, watch Lowart's vid on Archie Silver and you'll see what I mean) baffles me.
      (And Wanda vs Zatanna being the way it is in the same season Magneto vs Tetsuo was the way it was makes me extra salty as a currently becoming Wanda stan when you consider the complicated and often beefy relationship both of them have in the comics, which none of the two episodes even hinted at, obviously, despite other episodes hinting nicely at other episodes before and after and Magneto's episode quite nicely hinting at Heracles vs Sun Wukong.)
      Welp, I got a few things off my chest, thank you to all who bothered to read my ramblings over a few episodes of a silly but GOATED AS FUCK Internet show.

  • @tentonterror2274
    @tentonterror2274 11 місяців тому +16

    Trunks vs Silver is easily my favorite. Hedge of Tomorrow is such a banger! Great video.

    • @vaggos2003
      @vaggos2003 2 місяці тому +1

      And Silver's portrayal in the fight is GOATED and fits very well with his portrayal in the Archie comics.

  • @tyforestreacts
    @tyforestreacts 11 місяців тому +76

    I feel like for Asta, Liam didn’t bother with research, and just read a few wikis and found both current AND outdated videos talking about Black Clover.
    As a Black Clover nut myself, that episode HURTS me in so many ways, and my preferred character was the winner! Goes to show that it doesn’t matter if you’re preferred character won if the episode is mid at best.

    • @dusky5535
      @dusky5535 9 місяців тому +6

      At least you weren't someone who said the episode sucked because Asta took more than 2 seconds to win.

    • @wingedbluj1674
      @wingedbluj1674 7 місяців тому +1

      I got SUPER into Black Clover when the episode was announced because I was already into MHA and I wanted to go in without spoilers.
      I waited over a year to watch the episode, and was disappointed on how they got Asta's character wrong.

  • @maniacalmalamar8332
    @maniacalmalamar8332 11 місяців тому +23

    Magneto vs Tetsuo getting that high a score is BASED

  • @maahuu2379
    @maahuu2379 11 місяців тому +17

    I like too how the James bond shot also conveys that while wick may be a perfect shot it doesn't really matter because bond can put 3 bullets in him before wick can pull the trigger

  • @bernardlegayferrari3061
    @bernardlegayferrari3061 11 місяців тому +28

    In Deku vs Asta, you mentioned how Liebe's exclusion from most of the fight was a shame. While I agree with this, since it would have helped Asta's characterization with friendly banter between the two, I think it is more of a shame when you know that Deku also has something similar.
    For those unfamiliar with the latter parts of mha, One For All, Deku's quirk which was passed down from All Might to him, went to multiple people before All Might and stores their different powers, which is how Deku has access to all of these powers. However, it also carries the vestiges of those previous users, basically their spirits, who can communicate with Deku in his mind. At first, it was only while he was unconscious, such as asleep or mind controlled, but after some time, they are now able to communicate with him at all times to give advice on their quirks and how to use them.
    So, basically, we could have had a fight were both combatants would have been guided by their mentors/friends, creating more character dynamics, and better representing both fighters. As you said, the presence of the guides wouldn't have affected the outcome, since neither party can intervene physically, only advice the fighters. I get that this would have required more voice actors and thus more resources, but it was seriously a missed opportunity.

  • @JustAPaperface
    @JustAPaperface 11 місяців тому +15

    As a big My Hero fan, i think Deku's portrayal is, while not as poor as Asta, it's still a really bad portrayal, he wouldn't spam detroit smash, and blackwhip doesnt look like that. I think he should have hit him with a smash, then jumped into the air and slammed him onto the ground and hit him around before Asta cuts blackwhip (which i dont even think has happened before lol)

  • @cortfun7775
    @cortfun7775 11 місяців тому +7

    I'm late since I've been getting wrapped up in watching Kamen Rider W, but anyways. Hey look mom! I made it in a Jonathan Frostathan video! Also thank you for putting into words about my dislike about Asta's portrayal as a big Fan of Black Clover and Asta. And your line about thinking about the people who were excited about this episode then watched Asta's analysis? That was me... When I was painfully sick, Yeah, you could imagine the sadness I felt watching one of my favourite characters getting disrespected while being the sickest I have ever been in my life. I'm also glad you put respect to Trunks vs Silver and Sauron vs Arthus because those are my two favourite episodes of the season. Can't wait for you to cover season 10. Great video Johanahanahananathan

  • @MiiRailgunner
    @MiiRailgunner 11 місяців тому +19

    Chat going bonkers as soon as the sus notes come out will never not be funny to me as a musician

    • @JonathanFrostathan
      @JonathanFrostathan  11 місяців тому +5

      Huuuuuuuuuuuuuh, I kinda walked into that one and didn't realize it. -_-

    • @snailcat5806
      @snailcat5806 11 місяців тому

      Oh Hey Dawn!

    • @MiiRailgunner
      @MiiRailgunner 11 місяців тому +2

      @@snailcat5806 Hey, Snail!!!!

  • @alviabtahi5440
    @alviabtahi5440 11 місяців тому +69

    We fucking LOVE Magneto vs Tetsuo in this house. Best episode of the season with almost no contest.

    • @JonathanFrostathan
      @JonathanFrostathan  11 місяців тому +19

      It should've made the top of the list. But no, Sauron vs Lich King just had to have that fucking staring contest. -_-

    • @tudoraragornofgreyscot8482
      @tudoraragornofgreyscot8482 11 місяців тому +9

      @@JonathanFrostathanYou still didn’t give it a 💯 which is a load of coal.

    • @vaggos2003
      @vaggos2003 2 місяці тому

      ​@@tudoraragornofgreyscot8482Cry me a river.

    • @vaggos2003
      @vaggos2003 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@JonathanFrostathanLook, an episode needed to be PEAK FICTION, it's not Sauron vs Lich King's fault for being born that way and embracing who they are.

  • @longthornhenderson331
    @longthornhenderson331 11 місяців тому +12

    Another amazing video jon! Love hearing your death battle opinions! And such unique ones!! Also as a big dragon ball nerd….. yeah trunks is kinda e h i mean hes cool but hes either like standing around or screwed over in his own arcs lol. Great character. Not as special as some make him out to be. Also these videos is how I learn how toxic the db community can be. They get mad over the silliest things it seems. Looking foward to your season 10 review whenever it arrives! You cooked hard!

  • @SuperRandomNation
    @SuperRandomNation 11 місяців тому +11

    The moment with Discord appearing during a background scene saying he’ll see us soon is pretty good

  • @aipomandmimikyu
    @aipomandmimikyu 10 місяців тому +5

    I think, regarding not wanting to spoil Demon Slayer stuff that wasn't vs related, I think the reason they avoided any story spoilers was because of people complaining about Attack on Titan spoilers in Mikasa's rundown. Even though they had put up a spoiler warning at the start of Mikasa's rundown but people decided to just ignore that and complain.

    • @vaggos2003
      @vaggos2003 2 місяці тому

      Yeah, I think that's the case too.

  • @crismegafanxd1518
    @crismegafanxd1518 7 місяців тому +3

    1:35:05 XD
    I don't blame you
    Hedge of Tomorrow is an absolute BANGER

  • @AlexT7916
    @AlexT7916 11 місяців тому +19

    I think the reason they gave Asta so much shit for his screaming was because that is one of the most prominent things people who don't like Black Clover complain about, why they decided to cater to the haters instead of the fans I don't know

    • @vaggos2003
      @vaggos2003 Місяць тому

      Apparently, I heard that Liam based his wroting of Asta's rundown on negative reviews for Black Clover.

  • @lopresti101
    @lopresti101 11 місяців тому +7

    2:55:26 Okay so- about that line with Death Battle disrespecting other franchise characters not through them losing, but through their pitch in the analysis, I really do agree with you there. There have been many examples I’ve seen and even more from other reviewers who know characters I don’t, of times where death battle shits against a character for the hell of it without understanding why that character matters to people.
    But in defense of critiquing the Ben 10 episode: My issue isn’t the fact that Ben lost, in characterization and something of a theme, it’s that they treated him like he was his regressive 10 yr old self with future series feats stapled to him and treated Hal as if he’s just a wacky space adventure comics character in DC. Pulling unpopular bits and even lesser known powers to try and be clever and just not coming across as well as I wish it did. And in terms of wacky space adventure comics, they didn’t even bring up Green Lantern Willworld, I just read up on that and they could have wed it to current stuff by Grant Morrison or Geoff Johns, that would have been perfect.
    There were so MANY things they could have talked about, even just in similarities, from Ben 10 Ultimate Alien’s finale or the Multiversal Time Bomb to Green Lantern’s family issues from Geoff Johns secret origins or Vlthoom the First Lantern and really show how Hal is THE GOAT of all Green Lanterns put together.
    But instead….well we know what happened, mixed bag reaction.
    I think Liam is an incredible writer when he has time and motivation to tackle characters and subjects he has passion in, showcasing the best of both characters and trying to come out fair. But much like other writers on Death Battle, it really just cuts down to him just not taking a second draft (metaphorically speaking) and going over the specifics of whether or not this characterization fits or what a fandom would expect from it, or even their favorite moments fed back to them in the analysis to hype their character up and/or watch them fall.
    It goes from “oh let’s ironically playfully jab a character in perspective viewing the medium he’s in” straight to- “I think this character is annoying, or not of interest to me, or beneath me. Hopefully others agree.” (not that Liam is saying that, it’s just writer’s tunnel vision. Happens to the best of us).
    And in the case of Deku Vs Asta, that clearly was characterized worse for Asta than B10VGL or most any other Death Battle. And that hurts, I know the feeling from other matchups like Hulk, Captain Marvel, Batgirl, etc.
    (Also Strongest Alive SLAPS! Best song of the season for me)

    • @JonathanFrostathan
      @JonathanFrostathan  11 місяців тому +3

      Yeah, for sure. I just mainly used Ben vs Hal as my visual for that part because it's usually the first episode people think of when people say "Death Battle is biased" or whatever. I did forget about Ben's characterization issues, admittedly, but I don't always see those nearly as often.

    • @lopresti101
      @lopresti101 11 місяців тому +3

      @@JonathanFrostathan I imagine that’s a thing that can kill Death Battle for a lot of people, not misrepresenting characters in general, but when they are misrepresenting personal characters. You said it yourself, if you were a Black Clover fan you would be far more pissed (which I’m not sure how that’s possible given the rant, but fair point)
      I thought Hulk was mischaracterized in his fight against Doomsday (later fixing that with Broly), but that didn’t make me go against the show for that picking and choosing of what they do want to represent fairly. Maybe a Twitter post or two to get ignored but nothing substantial. I was still watching and supporting the show.
      Jesus I just realized since Ben Singer wrote about it before the 3rd rematch, Goku Vs Superman 1 & 2 might be viewed as mischaracterization by some for using the parody voice cast. Ben said himself he hates the second one. For painting Goku as insane and Superman as “too goodie goodie to be not relatable”.
      I don’t really agree with that (at all) but it really makes me think about the perception an audience will take based on whether the intent or the execution is taken into consideration. Or even just people caring about the outcome (which is important) vs caring about the narrative framing, fight choreography and portrayal of the characters (arguably more important). Or even just if things contradict against other episodes.
      But still, yeah I can understand the effort it takes writing and producing an episode I just wonder if it takes a form of growth on the writer’s side of learning and working through the process on a project to win over an audience within the perspective of how a fan base expects their character to be represented and how new comers get introduced to grow both franchises and DB itself. It’s a balancing act.
      (Side bar: Hal’s characterization was actually almost perfect, and I love the parallels drawn between the two of them. It’s why I want a rematch so bad)

  • @RealGarden428
    @RealGarden428 11 місяців тому +7

    Like you, I loved that DB tried taking risks for season 9, making more bittersweet endings and bringing in a boatload of new franchises. While it didn't' always work for me, there were still a lot of episodes that I've grown to love such as Omni-Man vs Homelander, Magneto vs Tetsuo, Trunks vs Silver, and Sauron vs Lich King, and even episodes that I have a lot of respect for such as Hercules vs Sun Wukong. If the last quarter had the same consistency as it did for most of the rest of the season, I would have considered this better than season 6, but as it stands, season 9 is still a season that I really love and understand the hype around.
    I am very excited for your video on season 10, as it has dethroned season 8 as my favorite season of the show, and I can't wait to hear your opinion on certain episodes that came out of it

  • @roonkolos
    @roonkolos 11 місяців тому +12

    Forgive the wall of text
    The Heracles vs Sun Wukong fight is deeply special to me
    I have been an avid fanatic of mythology ever since i was 6. I have since learned of the classics like Greek, Egyptian & Norse but have of course long expanded from there to Indigenous, Japanese & even fictional mythology as redundant as that sounds. When i first saw those names on the Next Time, my brain froze. I honestly couldnt comprehend what i saw for a few seconds. I cheer. God, i cheered ♡♡ was a strange dream come true for me. I knew my preferred had little chance but to see mythology actually be done got me so beyond words excited
    But more than that, this was the first episode my husband and i watched together. I had shown him clips and such in the past but we never fully sat down to watch one of these since DB is more my thing which i dont mind ♡ He thought i was upset that Heracles lost but i was just so overjoyed that it was even a thing. Yes, it has its flaws. Several honesty. But it still is a deeply cherished episode for me
    Whats even better is that this was a catalyst for him & versus match ups. We now have a dream match up we share together: Power Armor (Fallout) vs Elemental Armor (BattleTech) since he and i have a love for them (me the former & him the latter) and getting the other interested in our beloved series
    Its a fight that will never happen sadly. Especially BattleTech. But it was a cherished moment for me, that fight ♡ and while id have it at like 75/100, its an episode none others can ever touch ♡
    That alone i will never forget

  • @Cinnamon_Rolls_Out_Of_The_Oven
    @Cinnamon_Rolls_Out_Of_The_Oven 11 місяців тому +5

    I loved this!
    Probably because you were talking about the 1st season I was actively invested in watching as it came out, but still this was great, your best DB video yet!
    (Also based Multiverse of Madness Enjoyer!)

  • @dannylopez5976
    @dannylopez5976 9 місяців тому +3

    Lich King vs Sauron gave me chills hearing you talk about it. Has to be in my top 10 of all time.

  • @NamedNameless1
    @NamedNameless1 11 місяців тому +10

    There are actually a lot of biblical connections to be made with Apocalypse, yes he was born in Egypt, but he also has Four Horsemen, just like the four horsemen from the Bible, and his adoptive father shares his name with the god Ba'al Zebul, which eventually became known as the demon Beelzebub (which then became another name for Satan, somehow). Heck, Apocalypse's wife is named Genesis, ironically enough.
    Also, and I don't know if you know this, but the Bible ends with the apocalypse, in the Book of Revelation. In fact, the word apocalypse is just ancient Greek for revelation, we only associate it with the end of the world because of the Bible.

    • @JonathanFrostathan
      @JonathanFrostathan  11 місяців тому +2

      Yes, I knew how the Bible ends. It just wasn't on my mind when I first heard the line from Wiz given the context.

  • @mysalsabrosv.2584
    @mysalsabrosv.2584 11 місяців тому +3

    just wanna say, your db ranking series has probably been my favorite out of any others i've seen! i feel like you have a lot of talking points i haven't heard before, something i've noticed is lacking in a good few others. not to mention you list examples and evidence for all your big talking points, in just the right way and just the right time. keep up the good work man, insane this was only one month after your last video

  • @JohnnyDoorknob
    @JohnnyDoorknob 10 місяців тому +2

    I’ve finally made it through all 9 parts, looking forward to part 10! Good shit

  • @joewilenzik9119
    @joewilenzik9119 11 місяців тому +10

    So what was it like having Dio as a brother?

    • @JonathanFrostathan
      @JonathanFrostathan  11 місяців тому +5

      Not great. Tried to kill me on many occasions, but I at least put him down a peg and he hasn't bothered me since.

  • @magicbon1617
    @magicbon1617 11 місяців тому +3

    Good retrospective can’t wait for the peakest season review next

  • @zeldamaster52
    @zeldamaster52 11 місяців тому +7

    Small correction on Jinx: Until just recently, Arcane was a separate timeline from main continuity, and even now Riot is still trying to fix things so Arcane can make sense in the core universe. So at the time of airing, Jinx was a composite, but now wouldn't be. Kinda. Giving her video game items and Arcane feats definitely doesn't line up, but I get why they did it.

  • @MattSayYay
    @MattSayYay 6 місяців тому +5

    I cannot stress how embarrassingly long it took for me to realize the yellow thing in front of Silver in the thumbnail was Harley.

  • @ericaoyuki1179
    @ericaoyuki1179 11 місяців тому +10

    Does anyone else think that his use and timing of God Shattering Star was absolutely perfect? Because that was GODLIKE! I loved that as an intro to Sauron Vs Lich King!!

  • @icantnotthink3282
    @icantnotthink3282 11 місяців тому +9

    I think my only major issue with cosmology scaling is it's kinda unfun when actually debating feats and stuff? Like, it's really fun to try and scale shit like popeye because it's fun to me to try and scale shit like "spinach destryoed a star" or "gave the sun a black eye", but then somebody brings up how he defeated a 7th dimensional being so anybody he fights who isnt 7 or more dimensional is a stomp. It just kinda loses the spirit of it all to me ig?

  • @aidenmb7932
    @aidenmb7932 11 місяців тому +9

    Hell yes
    Dammit it starts right as i go to work

  • @verybigman2270
    @verybigman2270 11 місяців тому +6

    3:00:34 Y’know I think this is funny because despite using all of their abilities for the sake of it, the episode still manages to not use any of what they get in DBH
    You probably also mention this later but shh

  • @FranTheNerd
    @FranTheNerd 11 місяців тому +1

    I am beyond excited to see what you have to say about season 10- especially after lurking in some of your blue lion's playthrough.

  • @brosephthejoe9433
    @brosephthejoe9433 11 місяців тому +1

    13:45 I feel like the team does at least two Marvel VS DC fights either for familiarity or the fact that there are still some people waiting for some matchups like Mysterio VS Scarecrow, or Deadshot VS Bullseye.

    • @MidnightPhantom
      @MidnightPhantom 11 місяців тому +1

      Or Man-Thing VS Swamp Thing & Black Cat VS Catwoman

  • @JustAPaperface
    @JustAPaperface 11 місяців тому +5

    Having never seen anything Warcraft related, and having minimal knowledge of LotR, Lich v Sauron has my favorite analysis... period. Had me invested the whole way through, and the fight being peak makes it the easiest number 1 of a season ever

  • @hellfireproductions4173
    @hellfireproductions4173 11 місяців тому +4

    Trunks VS Silver is my favourite episode of the season, helped by one thing. The Yu-Gi-Oh! references.

  • @aidenmb7932
    @aidenmb7932 11 місяців тому +1

    Season 9 and season 8 can go back forth on which I prefer on any given day, and today I think Season 9 has beat it out.
    Great video as always!

  • @franco_efini
    @franco_efini 11 місяців тому +4

    Yep, this season is honestly better than I gave credit for... for the most part.
    While yes, S8 has some merit for being both a season of legacy MUs only and to celebrate DB's 10th anniversary, and yes, maybe this season has fallen off by the final stretch on 3 out of 4 episodes, but at the same time, S9 is not afraid of being bold. With the bittersweet ends for certain fights being the one aspect that makes it stand out the most from previous seasons.
    But yeah, S9 could be well said as being the best modern DB season so far... if it wasn't for the fact we got one more season to go, and rightfully so, has become THE best modern DB season. But we'll get there when we get there.
    Also that use of God Shattering Star for the Sauron vs Lich King intro transition *chef's kiss*

  • @brennanhearn6342
    @brennanhearn6342 9 місяців тому

    Good on you for catching yourself in the edit on Harley. Because, as Injustice 2 masterfully showed...she's NOT 'over it'. When Scarecrow hit her with the fear toxin, she saw...The Joker. Not some comical monster, not some normal nightmare, but HER nightmare. I cannot praise that fight highly enough.

    • @JonathanFrostathan
      @JonathanFrostathan  9 місяців тому

      To be fair, that's Injustice 2, and Death Battle (and me, by extension) was referring to the comics. You are right, though.

  • @vaggos2003
    @vaggos2003 2 місяці тому +2

    Just watched Lowart's Archie Silver video and let's just say that Silver's chosen foghting style in the episode and the way the killing blow was landed feel...different now.
    And I can only mean that in the best way.

  • @valydendor4472
    @valydendor4472 11 місяців тому +18

    "You make good points and I understand your opinions, but I disagree with-
    GOD SHATTERING STAR TO START SAURON VS LICH KING
    "...Sorry what was I saying?"

  • @alpathanacious
    @alpathanacious 11 місяців тому +5

    As a dude named Jonathan, I appreciate the bit at 21:10 and I agree.

  • @darkreflection9087
    @darkreflection9087 11 місяців тому +2

    2:17:57 WTF$&K is Warrior Cats I’ve been hearing it’s around recently and I have no idea what it is

  • @5q1d87
    @5q1d87 18 днів тому +1

    Ok so I need to mention this regarding jinx: it is compositing, but we didn't know this until now bc last year league went through a MASSIVE retcon where they said everything from here on out (including Arcane) was canon (bc legends of runeterra, lol and Arcane were SEPERTATE TIMELINES), and with season 2 being sort of the finale to Jinx's story, it's now official that she never met Ziggs.

  • @necrostar0248
    @necrostar0248 11 місяців тому +3

    God dammit I won't be able to watch the livestream 😭.
    I'll watch it once I'm home, I'm sure it's bound to be a blast!

  • @alexisislas-gonzalez5991
    @alexisislas-gonzalez5991 Місяць тому +1

    56:49 pretty much every dc or just fan in general how feel when they hear no longer hear the definitive Batman voice ever again.
    Edit: also the definitive ultron voice

  • @TheHearthGuy
    @TheHearthGuy 11 місяців тому +5

    Warning: Stupid long comment below, read at own leisure.
    Stacking multiple bragging rights from both watching all the other DB videos AND the community posts, but this season actually held a lot of weight for me too. After initially leaving the DB community due to growing disinterest around Season 5/6 and an irritation with powerscaling (or rather powerscalers) as a whole, I dipped my toes back into DB again in Season 9. It’d take Guts Vs. Dimitri until I’d get back into the show and community properly, but it wouldn’t have been on my mind if not for this season.
    A lot to say, much of which you say yourself, so I’m just gonna have my own small notes for each episode.

    Didn’t even notice Jinx and Harley’s voices sounding so similar but now I can’t unhear it.
    Ignoring some of the janky parts of the start of the fight, I really like how they handled the cosmic scale of Scarlet Witch and Zatanna, even if I have not strong feelings for either character.
    As a big Jojo’s fan myself and a middling Demon Slayer fan, the refusal to go deeper into Tanjiro for fear of spoilers was both understandable and hilarious to me, since I feel like I get bombarded by spoilers about it every day on my UA-cam recommendations.
    I FIGHT FOR FURY, FIGHT FOR PRIIIIIIIDE!
    I think that Omni-Man Vs. Homelander is the proper way to treat a stomp fight and shows that they can be handled in an entertaining way when you make it about the characters more than just treating them like walking talking blocks of statistics (Wow who could have guessed). I do get why people dislike stomp fights, after all, where’s the tension if you know who will win? Hopefully some people started to understand how it can be done better, and Death Battle has certainly learned how to do it judging from later episodes.
    Magneto is such a fascinating character both personality and ability wise, and to see him given a more sympathetic (in that he was *being* sympathetic) is always a nice touch for a character.
    Not much to say on the fight, I kinda knew who’d win. I would’ve gone with Heracles Vs. Rostam, the greatest hero from Persian legends, but that’s my own personal thing. As for the last bit about Pikachu Vs. God, I know it’s a joke bu…look, I am a Christian, but I know the Internet well enough that the subject of religion and faith are a bit spicy (Just look at everything surrounding Hazbin Hotel right now), so Death battle had *better* be careful if they ever tackle something like that. (I wanted to go on a bit about God beating Goku, but I’ll leave it for now.)
    (Boba Vs. John Predator) First, HOLY CRAP I WANT MANDO VS. COURIER NOW! Thank you for introducing that MU to me. Won’t even lie, I fell asleep watching this episode the first time through. I’m not even joking. It was that unspectacular to me.
    (Excalibur Vs. Raiden) You know, I like when the show doesn’t take itself too seriously. Its clear they let themselves have some fun with this one and it’s nice to see.
    While I still want to see Bond Vs. Borne, I do like the internal story of the fight and makes it feel like these two could really exist in the same world - which is always a bonus in a Death battle, at least for me. Call me crazy, but some part of me wishes they’d tried to do this in live action. I know they’d no doubt have to change the fight around, and I know how hard they are to do, but I really want to see them take another shot at it.
    Once more with Dwayne “The Black Adam” Johnson Vs. A Poggo Stick, they do a good job selling the idea of these two existing in the same world. As someone who didn’t really know anything about either character, I found their rundowns (especially Apocalypse’s) very interesting.
    I have a weird soft spot for Silver (the first and so far only Sonic game I ever played was Sonic 06, needless to say I didn’t finish it, but I still liked Silver.) But I never really got the hype for this one. Besides as I stated in the comments to one of your community posts, Hedge of Tomorrow just doesn’t hit me like it does others and I have tried SO HARD to connect with it. Alas, it has not worked. I refute the idea that telekinesis is a boring power. If done right, it is the coolest power possible (Silver being a good example.)
    As for the ending conversation about the words of authors in Death battle, THANK YOU! I agreed with so much of what you said (As an aspiring writer myself). While the only type of writer whose opinion really matters when it comes to the feats of a character’s abilities are the writers with 100% control over their creations (i.e. book authors and the like), I always get so bugged when people try to pit the words of creators against each other. I get it, some of you guys want to be as accurate to a character as you can be, but on the other hand - you can only take what a creator says with as much authority as they have over the created character (again, like with authors that have 100% control over their stories as opposed to TV or Comic writers that have multiple people’s ideas stewed together).
    And while I hesitate to touch the can of worms that is Hal Vs. Ben 10 (btw, I’m a fan of both characters, Ben 10 is my childhood and Hal Jordan is my favorite DC Superhero so if anyone can have an objective opinion its me) the vitriol that came about due to the episode was one of the biggest reasons I left and kept away from the community for so long after the fact. And it all loops back to the burning need people on the Internet have to make people agree with them. News flash: People have disagreed with each other over far more important things, like the meaning of life, the existence of God, and if cereal is a soup, for thousands of years and still managed to work together without acting like children (sometimes).
    In conclusion, JoJoFro had a massively based take, and some people need to grow up and stop harassing DB and others over a hobby. Now back to you regularly scheduled episode comments.
    Man, I can’t believe Sea Man got ratioed by the Sponglebig. Despacito, play Campfire Song Song.
    In all seriousness, I always enjoy when Death battle decides to get wackier, and lets the seriousness slide every season. While I agree some people downplay Aquaman, that is *far* from Death Battle’s fault.
    Never watched any of the Friday the 13th or Halloween films, but I do agree that the pacing of the fight felt very off. The atmosphere is great, but they just couldn’t manage to keep the momentum in a satisfying way. I do hope they tackle characters from horror again as they can have the most interesting abilities, but as their first outing into the genre it was understandably a bit janky. Definitely like the way they animate Jason though; his stiff movements actually play well into his character.
    ALL HAIL SAURO- *ahem* As a long time admirer of Tolkien’s work (even if I struggle to actually get into it) seeing Sauron in a Death Battle episode rocked my world. I’m more of a C.S. Lewis guy personally, but those guys were best friends for a reason. What’s more he was against one of the few WoW characters I actually knew a good deal about, further getting me invested in the fight. Maybe I’m coping, but I’d bet most people who asked “Who’s Sauron” were memeing (Because the prospect of people not knowing who Sauron is is deeply troubling.)
    I agree with a lot of what you said, though I’d say I further love the ending of the death battle, because it also builds on Tolkien’s core philosophy about evil, that evil ultimately destroys itself. Shown in the original trilogy where its Gollum who destroys the One Ring by accident as he selfishly tries to take it for himself. In a similar manner, Arthas’ own evil comes back at him as Sauron turns his own power against him.
    Continued in reply below.

    • @TheHearthGuy
      @TheHearthGuy 11 місяців тому +3

      First comment got too long, RIP. Continued here.
      Oh…oh no. Okay, positives first: Strongest Alive is a certified banger…that’s all I can say folks. Look, I’m not as in the know on the behind the scenes stuff of death battle. Never even knew who Liam was beyond that Death battle cast after the dreaded Ben Lantern debacle, nor did I know who any of the animators outside big names like Devil Artemis were until I started watching your breakdowns of Death Battle. But regardless of whoever’s fault it is for how Deku Vs. Asta went, whether Liam’s or not, it should be said that it was a very odd episode to watch. I couldn’t shake the feeling like Death battle desperately wanted Deku to win the fight but couldn’t manage to convince themselves to actually let it happen. Don’t get me wrong, I am definitely a fan of Black Clover, and I enjoy a “Asta’s a screaming goblin” joke too, since its somewhat accurate. But jokes like that are best done in good faith and humor, which it didn’t feel like during this.
      Yes, Asta is a classic Type-A personality who likes to brute force his way through problems, but he doesn’t brute force his way through problems unintelligently. Also, you want to know what is even worse about Asta’s Ki sensing not working? He is literally one of *two* characters that use it. His fighting style is practically built upon it since he can’t sense mana like everyone else. I know I’m more cynical about the “Death battle is biased” stuff (as I’m almost certain that they are), and this episode was not beating those allegations.
      Okay, here at the end, its time for my hot take: As a guy who doesn’t watch or like Dragonball, I actually really enjoyed Gogeta Vs. Vegito. Dragon Dance is lowkey underrated, the choreography was good, and it successfully sold me on the idea of Dragonball’s fight scenes (which I previously only ever saw as boring “me hit you harder” style fights mixed in with random bouts of characters shouting.)
      Woof, that was a lot. But this was a long video, and one I’ve really been looking forward to. Not near as much as I’m looking forward to Season 10, since that’s the one that got me back into the show, but it was still a solid season, nonetheless. See you in Season 10, JojoFro.

  • @7evenseas975
    @7evenseas975 11 місяців тому +1

    Nice vid Jonhathan

  • @notfred2319
    @notfred2319 11 місяців тому +26

    Michael Myers and Omni-man in the thumbnail 🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @whaleping
      @whaleping 11 місяців тому +3

      And Silver the Hddgehog 🤩❤️‍🔥

    • @notfred2319
      @notfred2319 11 місяців тому

      ​@@whaleping🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @hollowbrinethehollowfiedsu6365
    @hollowbrinethehollowfiedsu6365 11 місяців тому +3

    Fun thing to think about. Nightmare from soul calibur is a good opponent for either Sauron or the Litch King

  • @7-BIT
    @7-BIT 11 місяців тому +2

    If I’m remembering correctly, Gogeta VS Vegito had an extended waiting period to commemorate the 10-year anniversary of the original Goku VS Superman. With December 21 being the date GVS was planned to be released before it was delayed.

  • @therealestmedel5337
    @therealestmedel5337 11 місяців тому +4

    Deku vs Asta has me pretty worried for when Yuno, Yami, or Noelle when they come on death battle with how black clover was treated in that episode, but I hope they improve and give black clover as well as many other series like guilty gear and blazblue other shot

    • @hollowbrinethehollowfiedsu6365
      @hollowbrinethehollowfiedsu6365 11 місяців тому

      I am hoping for Mereoleona vs Yoruichi (Bleach) but given how death battle has done both series I am worried

  • @DonniedrakoE
    @DonniedrakoE 6 місяців тому +1

    2:15:00 it's so funny to imply Death battle because I geuninely think the show hasn't been more consistent and just better overall then right now if we're being honest.

  • @Eranull
    @Eranull 10 місяців тому +3

    Ain’t no way bro said fnaf jokes weren’t funny after the whole Jonathan bit 😭

  • @dannylopez5976
    @dannylopez5976 9 місяців тому +3

    Detroit... not great. Honestly All Might and Deku using it as word for an attack that causes great damage is fitting.
    2:51:04 But guy that's his back line. Not his ass crack. Otherwise it'd be like 40% of his torso.

  • @Leet-iz2fz
    @Leet-iz2fz 3 місяці тому +1

    Jason vs. Michael was not a downhill turn. It was a pothole - a momentary startling dip followed by a rise back up.

  • @metamaster5469
    @metamaster5469 11 місяців тому +3

    Your thoughts on Deku vs Asta summarize perfectly why I do not want Light vs Columbo. On top of just finding the matchup boring as sin, Liam has made it abundantly clear on MULTIPLE occasions that he just blatantly favours Columbo, and seems to outright dislike Light to the point of downplaying his intelligence to the point of saying 'The only reason he got so far was because all the authority figures in Death Note are dumb!' [Or that might have been Sam that said that while Liam just agreed with it...] So you just know he's gonna do something like have Light try writing Detective Columbo in the Death Note and be shocked when it doesn't work, or have him make rookie, amateur mistakes when Columbo is grilling him when he would be spending the conversation HEAVILY analyzing literally EVERYTHING Columbo said with internal monologues and carefully choosing his every word.

  • @MattSayYay
    @MattSayYay 9 місяців тому +1

    29:02 - Eh, you can imagine that. I’m a Demon Slayer fan, it is my favorite anime currently, and I loved this episode.

  • @venomgaming7014
    @venomgaming7014 Місяць тому +1

    Season 9 might be one of my (personally) most polarising seasons ever. It has one of my least favourite episodes (deku vs asta) as well as BOTH my second favourite and *actual* favourite episodes in the series (Jason vs Michael and Sauron vs Lich King respectively).

  • @zeroddor2665
    @zeroddor2665 11 місяців тому +1

    Season 9 honestly holds a special place in my heart. While Season 8 got me back to watch Death Battle Again, Season 9 is where I started to make my own ranking of each episode and give a strong opinion about it, rather than rely on community opinion. And it also gave me one of my Favorite Episodes in the Show. Surprisingly, Spongebob VS Aquaman is not only my favorite episode of the Season, but is tied for my Second favorite alongside with Scooby Doo VS Courage and Goku VS Superman 3. It was at a time where I made a whole Essay about Spongebob's character *(Because he is one of my favorite characters ever)* and had me thinking how they would handle him in Death Battle.
    And Spongebob VS Aquaman really did deliver everything I could of asked for to be my favorite of the Season. I am glad that they do give some credit to Aquaman as well. I know his characterization is divisive to the Death Battle Community, but I honestly enjoyed him. I don't really mind his mental breakdown being off putting. In fact, his mental breakdown is where he is at his most vulnerable. He's weak without water, he stands no chance against someone who he once underminded, and notices how the other Aquamen out match him in everyway.
    I actually don't mind Aquaman's character assassination. Mainly because he is developing out of this insecurity and naive view point. From what I've seen, Character Development requires some Assassination. Not always, but enough to show development. This development with Aquaman, Alongside with Spongebob giving him sympathy and encouragement really speak to me. And its why the ending hits so hard. *(At least to me again. Man I really am self centering am I ._.)* After Aquaman giving his all against someone who encouraged him, he goes out with a new respect to his new Super Friend with Spongebob being with him. And if the fight isn't about Aquaman developing, The rest of the fight still makes me happy :). From the jokes, to the glorious spectical, to the funny analysis and conclusion, Spognebob VS Aquaman did alot for me to call my favorite of the Season.
    Sorry I just really wanted to express how much I love the episode. But back to Season 9, it was an incredible Season. It was very experimental with the matchups and made some very strong character coverage. Some of my favorites are Heracles VS Sun Wukong, Black Adam VS Apocolypse, Omni Man VS Homelander, and Magneto VS Tetsuo. While I prefer Season 8 sightly, Season 9 really delievered some of the best we have ever gotten.

  • @hollowbrinethehollowfiedsu6365
    @hollowbrinethehollowfiedsu6365 11 місяців тому +1

    So one neat thing I noticed in Dekasta
    I don't know if it was intentional this way, or if I am just trying to find something positive with how they did Asta, but when Deku throws a building at Asta, Asta cutsit in half once then loops around to destroy the whole thing and stop its momentum so it didn't hit the audience.
    Again, probably just trying to find something positive for Asta's portrayal but I like to think that's what he did now. Recognizing Deku's building toss had too much momentum to not be a threat to Innocents watching.

  • @mizzix
    @mizzix 3 місяці тому +2

    This has nothing to do with anything but i rly like your character's design!

  • @TheImperialSoviet
    @TheImperialSoviet 2 місяці тому +1

    *As a giant fan of both shows this might be biased.*
    I fucking adore the shit out of the OmniLander fight. The analyses *clearly* established the juxtaposition of both characters, one having a giant ego and no actual skill, the other being reserved and rational with an obscene level of experience. A lot of people who don't like how short the fight is say it was unbalanced and a total stomp, but that's approximately the entire reason why so many people love it. It's not a fight, it's a Divine God enacting His will upon the sins of a mortal. It's not just murderous in a literal sense, Homelander's entire brand, which was forged over four grueling *decades* was shattered in about a minute and a half with minimal effort. It perfectly showed how Homelander had everything his life is behind this fight, and Nolan out here was fully prepared to commit a few felonies just to warn Homelander he's sealed the fate of himself, Vought, and just about everyone on Earth, and the second Mark is threatened, Nolan stops playing around and follows through on his promise. He screamed to Homelander that he's fucked with the wrong father without uttering a single word until he asks him if he remembers what he said in response to his absurd and belittled monologue at the start, then straight up feeding him that heart and giving him the Red Rush experience. Homelander knew the second Nolan hit him he was already *dead* but it's clear to see his ego was in control, and I would also assume if Invincible and The Boys both coexist in this verse, then Vought is absolutely going to implode when they learn their top gun was murdered by an alien they probably never met who also just... Forgets about this in two weeks time save for his wife's murder. Initially this fight was about Nolan warning Homelander to shut his giant mouth and never open it again, then when Nolan's son was threatened, Nolan turned that message around and permanently opened that mouth and shoved Homelander's own heart in it. I just wish the shadows at the start weren't ovals and more resemblant of the characters but since it wasn't like a 5-star animated series budget I'll let that slide, and also I only just noticed that.

  • @MattSayYay
    @MattSayYay 5 місяців тому

    2:53:52 - I’m have a feeling they were legally not allowed to diss MK like that, considering they were technically owned by Warner, who also owns MK, though I could be wrong

  • @connorschultz380
    @connorschultz380 11 місяців тому +3

    Omniverse as a term means pretty much nothing, it's a term some comics use to discribe everything when they already have multiverse and have discribed things separate from it

    • @galfinsp7216
      @galfinsp7216 11 місяців тому +1

      I’ve honestly come to see the term as a collection of universes, kinda like how a galaxy is a collection of planets, stars and systems.

  • @MetaKnuxXbeats
    @MetaKnuxXbeats 11 місяців тому +3

    I will say, yea, this is a really good season, though to be fair, all the seasons moving forward are just amazing. I will rapid fire the first few but because oh boy, I might have a lot to say about some of the later episodes. So Jinx vs Harley, really fun opener, Scarlet Witch vs Zatanna, also a really fun episode, Tanjiro vs you, I think the ending part was a bit awkward but I really like the somber ending and how it respects the characters, Thor vs Vegeta, I think the episode is really hype, especially thanks to the music track.
    Now we move on to Omni-Man vs Homelander. I will admit, when I first heard about the episode, I can't help but feel a but disappointed but once the episode came out, it really shut me up, I really like this episode. Yea, looking back, that one gag was kind of awkward but other then that, I absolutely love this episode.
    Magneto vs Tetsuo is one match up I never really thought about until the episode was announced so I was more curious about it more then anything and oh boy, what an episode. Considering that Magneto is one of my favorite Marvel characters and my favorite X-Men characters, I am so glad he was done so much justice here and Tetsuo was also really well handled. I think it was because of this episode that made me and my brother watched the anime movie and check out the manga so that I say is a huge success. Now I will admit that the episode's fight for the first half was not the most memorable but that ending was just drop dead amazing and I also love how it does tell a story from beginning to end of Magneto seeing Tetsuo as a punk kid, only to feel remorse and sympathy for Tetsuo in the end and ends his suffering. Absolutely brilliant.
    Don't have much to say about Hercules vs Sun Wukong really but I find it a very entertaining episode, but with Boba Fett vs John Yautja, ehhh, my thoughts on it is kind of weird. I like the idea but I feel like it was kind of pulled off in a very underwhelming way. I thought this was my least favorite episode of the season at first looking back but we'll get to that later. I just think that how they executed the Predator was kind of weird since it isn't a specific Yautja but a some what composite or just general is of "The Predator" which I probably be fine but I feel like in responds, wouldn't make more sense to also do the same for the Mandalorians? I get that they probably want to use an character that people know like Boba Fett but I wished they actually picked an actual character when it comes to "The Predator" I don't know, I just think this episode was just meh.
    Now, even though I do prefer John Wick vs Jason Bourne, I was not opposed to seeing James Bond vs John Wick, especially if it is a fun episode and I will say, it does succeed on that. There is some jank here and there but I really like how the episode turned out.
    Now Black Adam vs Apocalypse is also another weird one for me where I don't really remember much of the episode besides the ending, which was brutal, don't get me wrong, but I also wondered about that whole camera lends gag. I guess it is ment to sell the brutality of the stomp that Apocalypse did but I am not sure why they kept it, even in the conclusion. Aw well, I think it was ok.
    Silver vs Trunks... oh boy, I have a lot to say. so, I will admit, I am also not a big fan of the majority of Sonic vs Dragon Ball match ups so I wasn't really looking forward to this episode (even if they are using Archie or Heroes versions of characters), especially since I wasn't looking forward to the toxic responds that both fandoms will have towards the episodes, no matter who wins, but then again, I guess you can say that with a lot of match ups. So the episode came out and I will say, this episode blew my mind. What a fantastic episode. I don't know what to really say that hasn't been said, this episode is just that good, though yes, I still had to deal with a lot of salty Dragon Ball fans, claiming that "Death Battle hates Dragon Ball! How can Trunks lose to a cartoon rat!" (BTW, not exaggerating, someone literally said that, which I am disappointed that I didn't respond with "He's not a rat, he's a hedgehog" to reference Sonic and the Secret Rings) but that would of happened regardless, especially if it was a Dragon Ball episode. Now, yes, I also heard about Ian Flynn's responds to the whole thing which I feel like people blew way too much out of proportion and even act really rude to him because he "doesn't understand the characters" which is more of a conversion of it's own. But yea, this episode is awesome.
    Spongebob vs Super Friends Aquaman I really did enjoyed when I first saw it though I can admit that it does have some flews but it doesn't really affect my enjoyment of the episode for the most part. I think it really is a fun though yea, I think Super Friends as a whole was a bit disrespected.
    Jason vs Michael I think is overhated. I don't think it is an underrated classic necessary but I think they did a good job with the idea of these two horror slashers duking it out. I do like the idea of having some bystanders in the mix as well since in these kinds of movies, there is usually a group of characters that you get attached to before most of them get brutally murdered but I do think the execution was kind of off though it doesn't ruin the episode for me. Maybe I am being nice to it because I always wanted a horror themed Death Battle episode with movie horror characters but I think they did a decent job.
    Sauron vs Lich King. No sugarcoating it, this is the best episode of the season. I love this episode. I analysis really sells the pure malic and evil that Sauron is and shows why he is a big deal and the Lich King's analysis is also really damn good, and keep in mind, I know nothing about Warcraft so this was actually cool to see. Now the fight, oh boy the fight. The music, the animation, the characters, dialogue, the ending, absolute CHILLS! Just love this episode.
    Deku vs Asta... no sugarcoating it, this is the worst episode of the season... As someone that watched both the anime adaptations of MHA and black Clover, yea, this ain't it chef. There are some cool moments but the disrespect Asta received in this episode and the death that makes him look like an utter asshole, yea, this really has a lot going against it. I wished they went with the original ending because I can at least say that in spite of the rest of the episode, it would of ended in a respectable and interesting note but no, it can't have that either. Well, I won't say it is the worst Death Battle, it does leave a bad taste in my mouth...
    Oh yea, Gogeta vs Vegito.... meh.... ok, I won't just leave it like that (though originally I was) but yea, I kind of have no hype for this episode. I guess it is well animated but it kind of falls flat to me. Not a bad episode but not really a good one either.

  • @KirbyStarAnimation
    @KirbyStarAnimation 11 місяців тому +1

    15:37 Thank you finally someone said it.

  • @JarahKnuckey
    @JarahKnuckey 11 місяців тому +2

    Strangely enough, Black Adam Vs. Apocalypse is really up there for me. The voice acting is *so good,* the track carries, and the death is one of the most brutal I've seen in Death Battle.
    But still, Fallen Gods *carries*

  • @saltygibus5746
    @saltygibus5746 11 місяців тому +5

    Oh yeah--somerhing else about the fight for Deku vs Asta that I hate, why is Izuku so pale!? He looks like a drained body for no reason.

  • @ethanwahl-g9k
    @ethanwahl-g9k 11 місяців тому +1

    You asked for us to be civil about this so I will, the reason I believe Tanjiro should have won isn't because I think Death Battle is bias, but because I know how powerful he gets by the end and know that he is leagues above Jonathan.

  • @MattSayYay
    @MattSayYay 3 місяці тому +1

    Wait, is that f*cking Under My Control/Welcome Your New Overlord from Kirby Return to Dreamland playing in the background of the Scarlet Witch VS Zatanna review!? SCORE!

  • @gribblegrape6496
    @gribblegrape6496 11 місяців тому +5

    Oh fuck yeah, it’s time!!!

  • @SonicXeno
    @SonicXeno 3 місяці тому +1

    Honestly I’m kinda worried about one of my favorite matchups (that being Hibiki from Symphogear vs. Yuki Yuna from YuYuYu) being represented in Death Battle proper because I’m worried about it being another Deku vs. Asta or, even worse, another Ragna vs. Sol

    • @vaggos2003
      @vaggos2003 2 місяці тому

      Or another Wanda vs Zatanna.
      During the last year I've been getting on Wanda comics.
      Can you guess from a scale of 0 to 10 how badly Wanda was represented in the episode?

  • @Hi-re8mt
    @Hi-re8mt 11 місяців тому +1

    I know this vid is gonna be 3 hours long and I need to sleep soon, so whilst I can’t watch this live I look forward to seeing it later.

  • @janisrivera229
    @janisrivera229 11 місяців тому +3

    Here are my Top 10 favorite episodes of Death Battle
    10. Megazord vs Voltron
    9. Frieza vs Megatron
    8. Hercules vs Sun Wukong
    7. Scooby Doo vs Courage
    6. Goku Black vs Reverse Flash
    5. Ryu vs Jin
    4. Goku vs Superman (2023)
    3. Goro vs Machamp
    2. SpongeBob vs SF Aquaman
    1. Bill Cipher vs Discord
    Shout outs for the ones who didn’t make the cut
    Kirby vs Majin Buu
    Cole vs Alex
    Leonardo vs Jason
    Red & Charizard vs Tai & Agumon
    Balrog vs TJ Combo
    Darth Vader vs Obito
    Deadpool vs Mask
    & Mario vs Sonic (The Better Version)

  • @kingbanzai9118
    @kingbanzai9118 6 місяців тому

    1:42:13 I actually think Bryce is the official Silver Voice Actor, He voiced silver in 2019 team sonic racing

    • @JonathanFrostathan
      @JonathanFrostathan  6 місяців тому

      I hate to be the explainer of jokes, but have you happened to look up who voiced Cat Noir?

    • @kingbanzai9118
      @kingbanzai9118 6 місяців тому

      @@JonathanFrostathan Oh wait, lmao I just got it. Sorry for the misunderstanding

  • @MattSayYay
    @MattSayYay 11 місяців тому +2

    My ranking of the season (with a semi-brief description of how I feel for each episode)
    #17: Excalibur VS Raiden (Who vs Raiden now? Yeah, this is one of the few "I don't care" episodes of the season.)
    #16: Deku VS Asta (uhh)
    #15: Black Adam VS Apocalypse (Hey, Death Battle, unless the person is Homelander, no one wants to watch a Death Battle where one combatant gets stomped on constantly through the whole battle.)
    #14: Jason Voorhees VS Michael Myers (Unique, but is it good unique? Sure. Oh wait, these two were supposed to fight?)
    #13: James Bond VS John Wick (Oh God. Those faces.)
    #12: Boba Fett VS Predator (Wait, this was hated? I mean, I guess...)
    #11: Gogeta VS Vegito (Kind of a weak matchup to end the season with, but the personalities are there, and that's all that matters.)
    #10: Sauron Vs Lich King (Cool. Maybe ranked a bit too low, but it's cool. I'm not a LotR or Warcraft fan, can you tell? Still, it's ranked enough to put it in A Tier.)
    #9: Trunks VS Silver (This episode reeks of salt more than the ocean itself. And I love it for that.)
    #8: Scarlet Witch VS Zatanna (Me love Zatanna now. Also WOOO! BLAKE BELLADONNA CAMEO!)
    #7: Harley Quinn VS Jinx (WOOO! FINALLY! BLAKE VS MIKASA CAMEO! BLAKE VS MIKASA SWEEP! Okay, (un)ironic love for a bad episode aside, this is probably one of the best season premieres next to Dante VS Bayonetta and He-Man VS Lion-O. But I really don't know why they chose such an arbitrary Death Battle like Blake VS Mikasa (which wasn't even animated in Blender, I don't think) to make a cameo here. Other than the fact that it's BLAKE VS MIKASA BABYYYYY!!! And believe me, that's not the last time we're seeing the lord and saviors of all of Death Battle making a cameo. Just you wait...)
    #6: Thor VS Vegeta (Finally! A good Vegeta and Thor episode!)
    #5: Hercules VS Sun Wukong (I called them a madmen for wanting mythology in Death Battle...)
    #4: Magneto Vs Tetsuo (Your heart is welcome to die.)
    #3: Omni-Man VS Homelander (They didn't need to go this hard with the animation.)
    #2: Tanjiro VS Jonathan Joestar (Me Demon Slayer fan. You JoJo fan. Me teared up a bit. Also, I added Jonathan from this episode to the Hero Fanon!)
    #1: SpongeBob VS Aquaman (68/100? Wha? This is one of the few episodes I actually watch from analysis to conclusion! Most episodes don't do that for me. It made me laugh, it made me cry, it's the culmination of everything I loved in this season.)

  • @kirbylover2.038
    @kirbylover2.038 7 місяців тому +1

    I think the speed thing in trunks vs silver is death battle changing their mind about immeasurable dragon ball instead of Archie sonic being more consistent

  • @jackhamilton9604
    @jackhamilton9604 11 місяців тому +1

    the reason they no longer use MasakoX is because Ben wanted to have a closer portrayal to main series Goku rather than just abridged Goku

  • @Driff97
    @Driff97 11 місяців тому +3

    Spoilers involving his final thoughts of the season.
    Bro. You just finished your first 3 hour part of this ranking series, and even after showering so much (deserved) praise over the season, you just confirmed you like Season 10 more.
    WHAT
    ARE
    YOU
    COOKING?!?!
    (and how much of that dish is sugarcoated?)

  • @ProfDragonite
    @ProfDragonite 11 місяців тому +3

    As a fellow Jonathan, I share your pain, my dude. The Biblical spelling is the only correct one, and this heretical H must be eradicated!

  • @justarandombluebird8222
    @justarandombluebird8222 11 місяців тому +6

    We don't give enough credit to the VA like yong yea fuckin nailed

  • @czms922
    @czms922 11 місяців тому +1

    Diabolical me is My all time favorite track in death battle

  • @BigNoseEntmt
    @BigNoseEntmt 11 місяців тому +1

    29:47 Saw it coming!
    1:32:37 THANK YOU!

  • @danieldoucet4452
    @danieldoucet4452 11 місяців тому +1

    Asta yells a lot more than one episode he actually yells a lot in the show.

  • @nalfunction552
    @nalfunction552 11 місяців тому +3

    As a big Black Clover fan, the whole thing with Asta disappointed me
    I feel like a decent amount of fans were really stupid but mostly because they're sick of the Deku comparisons Asta got in the early days of BC so if anything I imagine the announcement just brought back those bad memories and made everyone very overly agressive
    As for Asta himself as a massive fan of his character, it just frustrated and angered me, the snarky comments felt not smart or even funny and the respect for the character felt really low, I also hated how he was handled in the fight since if anything I feel like he would have been enjoying himself fighting someone like Deku and be more or less saddened by Deku dying due to his own power. What should have been a fun fight between two fighters who would have probably been inspired by the others determination and strength, turned into a big screaming match between Deku and a what felt like a caricature of Asta

  • @Kingbeat1
    @Kingbeat1 11 місяців тому +1

    2:59:56 that's not how is name is pronocued it's pronounced feww for some reason

  • @requiem6465
    @requiem6465 11 місяців тому +2

    My boy Archie Silver on the thumbnail.

  • @connorschultz380
    @connorschultz380 11 місяців тому +2

    1:39:03
    I think boom stick is calling research gross

  • @matthewschultz7390
    @matthewschultz7390 9 місяців тому +1

    I used to not want Silver vs Trunks because Death battle I'd biased against Silver. Even before I watched it, when I heard it was a thing, I thought Silver was going to lose. I was incredibly surprised when he won. And yes, life as a Silver fa absolutely sucks.

  • @zed1822
    @zed1822 11 місяців тому +1

    I feel like the only reason Jason vs Michael didn't get trending is because it got age restricted iirc which limits the views and appearing from algorithm or stuff

    • @JonathanFrostathan
      @JonathanFrostathan  11 місяців тому

      Oh, that's right. It was age restricted for a time.

  • @Ademmouzdahir
    @Ademmouzdahir 11 місяців тому +2

    I just have to Say something deku didn't use all he's quirks he only used 3 when he has 7

  • @Zeostorm1507
    @Zeostorm1507 11 місяців тому +4

    1:35:00 Jonathan Jumpscare

  • @bluegatito8684
    @bluegatito8684 11 місяців тому +2

    This video really make think a lot.

  • @CapsirusPrime
    @CapsirusPrime 11 місяців тому +3

    1:12:25 I wonder who this handsome devil is

  • @huntercoleman4050
    @huntercoleman4050 11 місяців тому +11

    Jonathan vs Tanjro is easily my favorite episode of the season

  • @huntercoleman4050
    @huntercoleman4050 11 місяців тому

    2:46:53 I have nothing but respect for you Jonathan but man you pissed me off with just this alone. This is my favorite anime of all time and you can have your opinions but I'm just letting you know I was hurt at the soul by this 😭

  • @thatfellowredjuan
    @thatfellowredjuan 11 місяців тому +1

    2:46:57 I'm still on my Travis touchdown in death battle cope but also with that note since it was mentioned in the deku vs asta segment
    As I said in the stream of what I could catch I am begging and hoping Travis gets a good rundown cause he and 2 other characters I'ma lock in if they mess up
    Also also magneto vs tetsou is still my fav of this season