Kramnik never liked fide, they didn't even recognise him as world champion for about ten years and invented a fake title to try and spite him and kasparov
"Supposedly" the dress code was implemented to dignify chess and the players. A photo posted online clearly shows the FIDE president dressed in jeans and sneakers in a formal meeting with a senior Chinese government official. What is allowed to the top leadership of FIDE is not allowed to chess players. COMPLETE HYPOCRISY!!!
The rules for meeting a government official were not broken, the rules of the tournament were broken. It is more like consistency than hypocrisy, Magnus had a "Do you know who I am??" moment and I feel bad that they couldn't be a bit more corrupt in the circumstance. Chess is a HIGHLY rigid bag of rules and regulations, Magnus is no innocent or naieve party, he probably has used his power many times in the past and people have bent to his wishes. He has earnt the right to power trip though, this is not bad behavior it is more in the colorful category.
@bradmodd7856 well said but over pants come on this is a joke when we watch chess we aint looking at there pants or shoes or whatever we are watching whats on the board
@@bradmodd7856 You do not get it. The FIDE rules on attire are stupid. A rigid bag? Come on, it is imposed by idiots and it can be changed. It is not cast in stone.
@@nicknorris100 For example, is the dress code enforced only for certain players? Is this really not about the dress code and about the freestyle chess controversy?
Because FIDE is on a power trip. Obviously this dude went behind the head arbiter's back,while still supporting him all the way. This shit has its roots on Freestyle Chess and FIDEs fear of losing its position as the leading marketer of chess.
Because that sends a message to every other player that they can wear whatever they want if they have enough money. And Magnus has more money than every professional chess player on earth combined.
Ik right?! It seems that the events conspired to allow Levy to investigate the Magnus vs FIDE beef and provide content for him to shine as a journalist. Props to him for sure, he did an amazing job with the interviews and asked all the right questions.
@@hafezali860true, he mentioned in his video that in this case he takes Magnus' side but in the interviews he stays quite unbiased and neutral. good interviews!
Do they not realize how horribly out of touch they are with the audience, you know, the one that actually cares about the games and the players and is watching all this unfold?
Do you not realize how horribly out of touch you are with reality? You can't change and challenge the rules during a tournament only before and after it
@@samadhanchauriwar8623 Completely irrelevant to the point, obviously. Point is that the vast majority of the audience doesn't care what they wear as long as it's decent. The rule never should have existed in the first place. Sure, Magnus has to follow the rules just like everyone else, but the rule is dumb.
@@WithmeVerissimusWhostoned WIM Anna-Maja Kazarian was banned for wearing sneakers. FIDE called them "sports sneakers" and banned her from the tournament.
This is such a stupid rule. FIDE is shooting themselves in the foot. Chess as a game is leaving FIDE behind and players no longer need this ancient organization
@@joylife428that’s because those outfits actually also help players in playing the game. They’re designed for comfort and movement. Chess is a mental game - this is some elitist nonsense by FIDE
@@joylife428 common bro, dress code is to prevent someone to come with underwear or beach clothes, maybe some revealing cloth, not accept a jeans is just elitist in 2024, that's not shorts.
I agree with the whole ridiculous dress code thing. But they did give him ample opportunity to change his drawers. But hey, Magnus will Magnus. Because he can 👖
He said no tho. He said that it’s mostly for the top players since they are under spotlight. He admitted that kinda even if he used that line after. There were more players than a handful with “bad clothing”. Absolutely ridiculous
It's 2024. These days, people wear jeans with dress suit jackets. FIDE's dress code is out of touch with the modern World. This will alienate many young chess fans as yet more "old people's rules", and I say that as a 64 yr old!
I’m 73 and I agree with you. FIDE handled this badly . Let us see them apply their rules equally for every player. …..And where is your tie !! CEO …really
The rule leaves some room for interpretation. Jeans are not strictly forbidden if it is business attire. And that's the point. Magnus is one of the best-dressed chess players and his style is well maintained in the business world. Therefore, the move against him is clearly an insult and was not necessary according to the rules. I wonder what a poor wretch this Chief Arbiter is... and of course FIDE as an organization. Anyone who covers something like that is not from this world.
FIDE is WRONG here. Rules should always be enforced with reason. Wearing jeans DOES NOT in any way affect the game of chess to the point where it justifies penalizing the player with game disadvantages (e.g., being banned from the next round). FIDE should've just fined him more, especially since he said he'll change tomorrow.
Magnus is the total jerk here! The tournament rules apply to everyone, including Magnus. If he had a problem with dress code, he could have raised it before hand. If he wants to play in iconic venues and have high profile, he needs to comply.
@@SriGutta The issue is it's not just about the dress code. Based on Magnus's interview and one of Hikaru's videos, FIDE was threatening players who wanted to participate in the new freestyle/Fischer random venture. Magnus is just sick of FIDE in general tbh
@@antonsworldofvideos8096 who's fault is it then, he knows the dress code rules and was told multiple times to comply, he refused., How is that anyone but Magnus's fault?
@Temptthedevil That's Magnus' problem. He is trying to set up a business venture to promote his ideas and is having problems negotiating with governing body. That has nothing to do with these World Championships or dress code. He needs to figure a way to separate his business interests from his play
Next in sports news: Lebron james kicked out of game for wearing a headband that was cotton based rather than polyester based. No one gave a damn except the pretentious organizers that like to go on power trips.
It's wildly ironic how you don't realise those ''principles'' ARE the power trip from a spoiled brat who thinks he's always the special one out and that others must always adapt to him
Oh my god... Magnus Carlsen dropped the f-word on you, and you still say there is no animosity. What a hypocrite. He is a nice politician, probably why he is successful at FIDE.
@donyc 1) How about acknowledging that Magnus already played 3 (or 4) games that day, and there was no reason to send him home just before the last one ? 2) How about acknowledging that we are in the 21st century, and stupid rules like this have no place. People want to see Magnus play, not his pants. 3) How about doing what is good for the game and not pretend like you're not trying to monopolize chess prestige without actually finding ways to get top chess pros paid for attending FIDE events ? Outside candidates and the world championship, there is no money. Chess pros are starving and you threaten them on top if they participate in non FIDE tournament ?
People wear jeans all the time, it's not like his shirt says, "F%$^ Fide" there shouldn't be a dress code as long as the clothes aren't too inappropriate for example so that kids can play as well
FIDE kicking Magnus out for wearing jeans is like banning Mozart from a piano recital because his wig wasn't on straight - an absurd self-destructive display of vanity. If they're so obsessed with formalwear maybe they should start dressing pawns as undertakers to match the funeral they're orchestrating for the game. This isn't about respect for the game, it's about a desperate, grasping need to control something they no longer have the competence to manage. FIDE isn't protecting chess, they're strangling it to compensate for their own irrelevance.
Dress code? Look at the CEO. What a slob. No tie, not clean shaven, hairs growing out of his nose, bad haircut, horrible posture. If that conforms to the dress code for the CEO, the players should be able to come in their pajamas.
I hate magnesium calcium, but this comment is 100%. If FIDE had any principles, they would have banned magnesium for what he did to Hans. Doesn't mean it makes sense to forfeit him over fashion jeans. They were probably more expensive than the pants most of the players were wearing, the dress code is moronic. I can understand if they ban swim trunks and flipflops, as it creates a spectacle, but any sort of fashion attire seems appropriate for chess. This isn't the 1950's.
This is honestly an embarrassment for chess. A dress code is such a premitive way of thinking. Especially when you are trying to promote it as an esport. Adapt to the modern times.
@@madmaxglass True, but in this case FIDE is really not needed. The players can arrange their own events, and have done so. FIDE needs to work with the players, not behave like a headteacher.
Just because of this stupidity you FIDE lost the chance to let the GOAT 🐐 defend his title. I know his performance is as good as his past but you never know he started winning his game from game 8 and so you never know if he won. Magnus good choice!!
@@RTAC_1234Kasparov did the same with his PCA back in 1993. Look how that went. It's not just about the top rated players and closed invitationals between them. That's the easy part. The hard part is to organize rated events for all player levels across the world. Every top GM you see today started as a beginner. Even Magnus started out as an unrated player climbing the rating ladder and earning his title norms. Without an organization like FIDE, there would be no upcoming rising stars and it will just be the same few guys playing closed invitationals again and again. That gets boring quickly. Where is the entertainment for chess viewers if not witnessing rising stars get wins against the current best and making their way to the top to mark the next generation of players?
as a russian who left.. i just hate these kind of grey suit people, burocrats and so on.. so authoritarian, it just would piss off anyone who thinks independely
Yeah reminds me of that Georgian bald head GM Zurab Azmaiparashvili who banned GM Anton Kovalyov back in 2017 for some vague dress code violation; seems like a power trip.
@@gredax They can have whatever dress code rules they like, but if I wanted to see a fashion show I wouldn't chose FIDE. Now I will not chose FIDE if I want to see great chess either.
@@gredax He did leave? I'm not sure basically playing hard ball and disqualifying the greatest player of all time because of a dress code rule is good for FIDE or for the game. Magnus is at that level, as much as u guys love crying about it he is and he can say FUCK YOU to FIDE and leave. FIDE needs Magnus a lot more that Magnus needs them. I'm not sure why'd u be on a side of an org that clearly have outdated mindset when it comes to marketing the game and the rules.
I was expecting to get really angry at reading stupid comments from cringe white knights defending fide but I am pleasantly surprised on how reasonable this comment section is.
i think it's time to get rid of the monopoly of chess. some might not agree, but players are the first line of chess. they should be the loudest voice in the discussion of the way this historical game should head. this drama wasn't born out of jeans or the etiquettes that suddenly change - all of the beginnings and endings are in the fischer random (freestyle), as it takes a much more significant role in our times and fide being as old-fashioned as it is, makes strings attached. this is way we face this atrocious and comic situation. please boycott
Who says Magnus speaks for all the players? There were other players who were warned (including Nepo) and then complied with the rules. Let's not make it Players vs FIDE when it is only Magnus vs FIDE.
@@sahilmehra6158 the difference is - magnus is magnus which means he can stand against fide even alone, nepo (without fide tournaments) is like an amateur without a salary.
@@gredax i feel this is a bit of an oversimplification, it's pretty obvious that Hikaru and Magnus both are interested in these freestyle world championships. that is the real motive for the disagreement and i think pretending like it just had to do with dress code is silly, as the FIDE CEO said Magnus also probably was in a bad mood because he struggled in the first day of the event. there were multiple factors at play
@@gredax They fined him $200 for wearing a blazer from Off-White, of which I have a harder time understanding the violation than jeans. If FIDE is being so overbearing as to make real a fashion police squadron, they have too many resources and not enough to do. Let them lose enough that they have work to do better, they'll be happier for it too.
Yeh I mean, Magnus hotel room is only 3 minutes away. That way too far to walk. Like the tournament gave him opportunities to change, but hey it's Magnus, he is bigger than any tournament rules or chess itself. Who cares about rules.
Hikaru literally said this goes deeper than just the dress code since Fide have been targeting players about plaiting in freestyle and making them choose to either play in candidates or play freestyle. FIDE ultimately wants control and Magnus used this as an opportunity to give them bad face and have a causus belli for his endeavor in non FIDE events. Regardless as is the norm for any governing body that starts with F (FIDE, FIFA, FIA) lots of bad things underneath. Is an understatement.
He is literally boasting about how generous FIDE is to magnus carlsen that with this 200 fine he is allowed for 2 more matches to play with jeans and that's it??? Him asking to change for tomorrow is not acceptable? That is so crazy to come to the interview and then make it sound like you are the victim and you did everything right while saying this bullshit. It is actually so unbelievable.
"we try to go the extra thousand miles for Magnus" but god forbid that involves wearing the wrong fabric on your legs, not once in those thousand miles.
"Rules" should be reasonable and must have "good purpose". 1. Reasonableness: Unreasonable rules often lead to unhappiness, frustration, and even harm. Rules should be based on universal principles of fairness, justice, and respect for individual rights. Arbitrary rules often violate these principles. 2. Purpose: Rules should not be ends in themselves but rather means to achieve desirable outcomes. Rules that serve no legitimate purpose, such as promoting the common good or protecting individual rights, are considered unjust. • Rules should be grounded in reason and serve a clear, beneficial purpose • They should not be arbitrary or overly restrictive, as this can lead to: ○ Violations of individual rights and freedoms ○ Creating a climate of distrust and resentment
Magnus was not happy about FIDE hassling players not to play a (Freestyle?) tournament. He mentions this but I suspect this goes deeper. Serious lack of proper mediation here methinks. And Chess joins esports next year. This could lead to a schism. This sounds like the CEO decided this was his Rubicon and defending himself by painting a negative picture of a demanding prima dona. I suspect he may come to regret this.I do NOT like the negativity in his answers regarding Magnus - there is something deeper here.
That’s what I’m thinking too. Like we don’t know all the details of the freestyle thing but there’s clearly a lot of underlying tension going on that probably started before the freestyle drama and will keep continuing. Today maybe Magnus’s last straw broke. And when you have the fame and GOATness of Magnus Carlsen you don’t need FIDE if you don’t want to work with them. Ex. Carlsen didn’t need to keep playing the WC to still be considered #1, the GOAT of chess, and keeping his current fame status.
Maybe Magnus is thinking of starting his own federation. It felt like he has been contemplating about detaching himself from chess for a while now and becoming a businessman instead
@@troillandford7679Kasparov and Nigel Short created the PCA (Professional Chess Association) after his split with FIDE. Magnus has enough money, sponsors, social media fan & peer support to seriously cripple FIDE if he created a new organization.
@@raylopez99 nice comparison, assuming the events occur similarly to Kasparov’s. That might make the world of chess even more interesting. Imagine Gukesh defending his title from both FIDE and whatever Magnus calls his federation, levy would have so much content to milk lmao
Can't wait to watch all the top players in tournaments outside FIDE control. Now we have 3 of the best players in chess history, leaving the FIDE mafia. Fisher, Garry and Magnus! So yes I agree with Magnus F**k FIDE.
Alex Holowczak is a top guy & a top arbiter but he'll never let anyone bend the rules regardless of who it is. That said the rules on dress code stink & need changing, Magnus looked far smarter than many/most that were not wearing jeans!
Alex Holowczak lacks common sense then... he comes across as a robot. Reminds me of an umpire in baseball who called a ball on the last pitch of an almost perfect game, denying the pitcher of a coveted perfect game. Discretion is the greater part of valor in such situations and it would have been better to call a strike and end the game (and from what I've read the pitch was a strike anyway). MC looks good in jeans and that's good enough for the dress code.
Back in your box dimwit, agreed Magnus looks smarter in jeans than the majority of others do without them. But Alex did not write the rules, he gets paid to enforce them. If you play in one of his events you know it will be ran efficiently & fairly.
@@gredax Yes, that is exactly a body/association/authority/organisation gains credibility when they enforce their rules and don't let powerful people in their own organisation get away when they try to bend rules
@@harshsrivastava8576 not by enforcing those rules, but making such non sense rules in the first place, thats how you lose it. It isn't as if he was playing wearing something very objectionable. At most it could have warranted a fine, nothing more, and forfeiting a round in wc where little points count, that too for casual clothes? that's lack of good judgement.
We know he played 8th rounds already and we fined him for 200$ but we wanted to really show him so we told him to go change even though we had already punished him and only 2 rounds were left
Between this and the BS with the Freestyle Chess, we should start putting out bets on how long it takes FIDE to fall from “grace” and go bankrupt. It’s funny he compares Chess to Tennis… when what 90% of chess is played online these days? Sports that are always in-person it makes sense to have a dress code. Chess players are used to playing in casual clothes (for money) online. For them to stop him from playing…is absolutely a step too far. At the worst they should have fined him again and told him if he shows up he will be fined for dress code violation. Simple. Reasonable. It’s one thing if he’s wearing awful revealing clothes or something like that. But normal jeans… really?
Even though Magnus wasn’t going to win probably it’s still a huge hit. My motivation to watch kinda went down 50%. It wasn’t a sports shorts or anything, it was a classy jeans. Probably costing more than most other suits there. If I would look around I would probably see others guys rocking not classy/well trimmed beards, hairstyles or even a cheap looking suit.
Magnus dominating, Magnus making a comeback, Magnus losing, it all gets people to watch and gets sponsors involved. Magnus draws people to the game, no matter how he's performing. In fact, Magnus losing might even make MORE people watch because it's so rare.
Magnus has made insane comebacks in the history. Watch his recent Superbet Poland Rapid & Blitz 2024, where he went on a winning rampage of 10 games in a row against Super GMs when necessary to win the tournament. If he had won next 5 games, he could have been no.1 in Rapid as well.
I think increasing fines for each match played without adhering to dresscode makes sense. But refusing to let him (or anyone) play is petty and unreasonable. I see this as magnus taking the hit to start the conversation.
they didn't block him from playing, they let him finish his round and asked, after the next round, which would have a break, for him to change, he's staying 5 minutes away from the venue, just have someone from his team, bc he's never alone, to get him some pants. Also increasing fines makes no sense for someone like Magnus
I like that idea a lot, because as long as the players aren’t wearing something very immodest there is no reason they can’t play. While that gives FIDE the control that they want. But there should also probably be reform in the requirements themselves. Like I’m sure Nepo’s sport shoes that he got fined on today are much quieter then the acceptable (but loud) dress shoes Alireza wore and got told off on DURING a candidates game.
@@MaxIronsThird They had less than 15 minutes before the next round starts. You are expecting him to go & change just for the sake of so called "rules"? You know what? WIM Anna-Maja Kazarian was banned from FIDE tournament because she wore sneakers. FIDE called them as "sports sneakers" & banned her. What are you even defending at this point?
There's shouldebt be fines at all If a player wants to play in a tank top and shorts they should be allowed to. This dress code shit is pure elitist garbage
This is a joke. You (FIDE) managed to get him out of classical chess and now you got him out of rapid and blitz. This is the most ridiculous thing that happened since the Karpovmanes era.
He got out of classical chess because he says that weaker players can cover by memorizing theory but its actually him who struggles against new lines. Chess960 is proof of that(13.5-2.5 loss against wesley so is humongous). He was losing rating points and wanted to be eternally 2800. He stopped playing classical thus. Now he throws tantrums over a thing that can be managed easily when being warned multiple times. If it is a rule you have agreed to play upon, abide by it. As simple as that. But fans worship him. So he does what he wants.
@@harshrajbasant9440 some rules are there to break them. We all are born free, you can wear what you want. It has nothing to do with the ability you have in your brain.
Player: *castles illegally* FIDE: "1 minute removed from your clock* Magnus: *wears jeans* FIDE: "$200 fine - if you don't change within the next 30 minutes, you will be removed from the tournament"
Players who play an agreed draw, then honorably confess to having done so (when they could have lied) are both double forfeited by FIDE is another example (thinking of the Nepo-Dubov fiasco, which cost both of them a potential title).
It's unfortunate that the old FIDE farts care what people wear. The other players in the tournament should protest this archaic rule... imagine if EVERY player showed up tomorrow in jeans and sweaters!
Hikaru and Daniel Naroditsky are still playing. Even Eric Rosen is still playing. Fabiano is still playing. India is following Arjun Erigaisi. Lots of reason to still watch.
@@aries2764 Chess is bigger than Fide. Lots to enjoy out there besides this North Korean dress code hysteria. The local christmas Chess tournement is more entertaining than this tragic event. I was here to watch Chess, not fashion. Enjoy the rest of new York fashion week.
Magnus did the right thing. Without the biggest chess star, FIDE's tournaments will probably not be very exciting. FIDE's decision here is a disaster for them. Freestyle chess will take over, FIDE will fade away
It's like a referee sending Messi off the field, saying it's not a disqualification, just for wearing the wrong style of boots, and then the FIFA president explaining how much they are doing for football and that this decision is actually aimed at improving all the wonderful things they want to build.
no, that's like Messi getting his shirt torn in a play, the rules say you can't play with a torn shirt, then the arbiter tells him to go to the bench and change shirts, he gets angry a nd leaves the game.
Terrible example because boots make a huge diff in football and that's the refs job lol. But if it was because messi had some unapproved hear style the metaphor makes sense.
@@MaxIronsThird you bud, listen to me. 11 months ago, WIM Anna-Maja Kazarian was banned from FIDE tournament because she wore sneakers. FIDE called them as "sports sneakers" & banned her. Also, what was FIDE doing when Alisher Suleymenov was wearing a watch against the FIDE handbook rules? What are you even defending at this point?
@@MisterAwesan I agree with you; I was referring to color, not something explicitly prohibited by the rules. Something that allows for ambiguous interpretation and doesn't harm the sport itself, but can trigger a "gatekeeper syndrome" in those looking for something to nitpick.
If you are on Fide's side remember that the players are barely getting paid. Players like Magnus and Hikaru, the absolute peak of chess and the main players who bring any traction to the Fide events are barely paid... insanity.
I laughed when he mentioned tennis and dress code. The only tournament that has a dress code is Wimbledon, and that rule is that you haft to wear white. Nadal experimented with this where he wore both white tank top (shirt without sleeves) and shorts over knees. This was fine and Wimbledon probably cleared out the rules for the future. But afaik, tennis is casual when it comes to dress code.
rules are rules, you cannot debate the rules while the tournament is going on, only before or after it, magnus is not special in the eyes of the arbiter who follows the rules all players agreed on before they signed to play in the tournament.
@@vik24oct1991: Alex literally just wrote that Nadal expetimented with the rules in Wimbledon, which basically is the same as debating the rules while playing...
Wimbledon is the strictest, but other tennis Grand Slams do have a dress code. For example, "Sweatshirts, gym shorts, dress shirts, T-shirts or any other inappropriate attire shall not be worn during a match (including the warm-up)."
every sport has a dress code. i'm puzzled how you guys just now find out that there is such a thing. In tennis, in football, volleyball, handball, everywhere there are rules in regards to how you can dress.
Look at 50% of the other players trousers and tell me this rule isn’t stupid. The code is made for the players to look presentable. It was seconds after magnus’s case decided that another player in light blue worn out pants that was designed to look like worn out jeans was following the code. So all this drama came from magnus having the wrong fabric on his pants…
True, not to mention, as Levy said and as Emil seconded, that FIDE does not even enforce the dress code for players not shown on camera, like the 300th seeded player.
@@Milan_N13 he wasn;t banned at all, he was asked to comply to the rules he signed up to, and he refused, other players had changed their jeans. He refused and then walked when he was punished.
@@gredax thats not the main issue here. this man / the ceo of FIDE wants to control chess all together / have a monopoly on it. Players like nakamura and magnus are CLEARLY not interested in being controlled by clowns like this. FIDE has told top players they cannot play freestyle and so on. this is really not about magnus pants.
@@gredax Listen to yourself a player (current champion) was banned from playing chess because he was wearing jeans and he refused to change it today and said he will tomorrow. think about how ridiculous that is before defending the people who did that. The dumb rule shouldn't exists in the first place but They should've gave him the fine and a warning not to do it again tomorrow and thats it.
This is ridiculous.... This is simply making a player uncomfortable, and basically showing power over others, the same as with freestyle world championship. FIDE is trying simply to own everything and bully players. The rethoric and speaking style of the CEO is also kinda sarcastic, not a symphatic person. Magnus clothing is more then presentable, nothing outrageous.. This must be a joke.
Would be great to see a lot of people playing with jeans tomorrow. There is so much stuff going wrong with FIDE rules (especially Tournament rules), World Champion's qualification, FIDE Circuit point system..., We don't care about the jeans, but this could be maybe be the beginning of a reforme that the Chess world realy need at high level since a long time !
In the world championship title ceremony, the FIDE president(?) went on a very long tangent about how Ding and Gukesh are the 2 best players in the world, a notion that 0 people in the room agreed with. They pretended Maguns' absence wasn't important for a reason.
@@gredaxGukesh openly said that there is no question that Magnus is the best right now, and he aspires to be that one day. So you are about as objectively wrong as you can be.
the level of drama in FIDE chess is unprecedented. maybe the lack of feedback from the top players regarding the dress code situation should be a hint for GM Sutovsky about they think about the state of rules in this organization
No drama at all, every other sport has dress codes, 1 guy doesn;t want to follow it let him leave. No-one cares except magnus fans. chess fans don;t care.
All these dress code violations are just these top players taking out private financial grievances by deliberately creating dress code drama. Are you not smart enough to understand what the players themselves hint at extremely strongly. This isn't about dress code at all...
FIDE has no right to hog the "World Championship" name. Especially when it would be the "Freestyle Chess World Championship" and not the "FIDE Chess World Championship".
Lol. Then every one will be a world champion. I can play a game with my gran and call myself Chess World Champion.. Every sport has and needs a governing body. FIDE is not the best or the worst. But, they are right on this issue. If they allow this, then anyone can come up with an idea to conduct a world championship.
@@SriGutta If you want to call yourself world champion you can. It's up to the public if they want to acknowledge it. Something tells me you and your gran will be the only one's who care about your title.
Is a dress code more important than the quality and needs of the players? If so, then something is very wrong! And then the CEO would have to change his job!
If a dress code doesn't serve a mechanical purpose it's inappropriate. "The premises deserve respect" - he nailed it there. It's not about respecting the game, or the other players, it's about pageantry and making the organisation feel fancy and important because in the wider world FIDE just doesn't matter. They are irrelevant. So they impose these rules to pomp themselves up. The "no poor people clothes" are entirely out dated, and act as nothing but a barrier for people entering the higher levels of the sport. Get a grip of yourselves. I'd far rather see respect for the players and their skill and allowing them to dress as they like. Give me players in high fashion playing others in dungarees. It should be about the sport, about the game, the clothes should be irrelevant.
I just respected Levy even more after this, he held and navigated this very well. He was adding important perspectives to the situation throughout this.
The argument „it was decided by players“ has the same taste as someone advertising gambling by playing it on stream, but saying „i didn‘t explicitly tell them to gamble“.. Overall, for an outsider like me this just looks like chess is not as important as what people look like. In general, one would think that issues like this will be adressed after the day, not during the games are going. The players need to stay concentrated on the games after all. Anything else would surely affect the chess. It‘s funny to see that in chess tournaments, the aim is not the best possible chess but a lot of other irrelevant things, like dress code, publicity and so on.. Also, this is a company. Things like „we 100% support the decision“ is meaningless, as of course they need to say this.
what if Magnus didn't have other trousers in his room? dude assumes that magnus can go to his room and change his pants, but how does he know if he has not jeans in his room????
As a casual chess watcher, this seems ridiculous. Even tennis players don't love the dress codes and I've watched tennis all my life. Also, dress codes may seem innocuous but to some degree it reinforces an invisible form of violence, especially with what they expect women to wear in these types of events. Magnus' jeans (and whatever others were wearing) at the end of the day are not distracting or taking away from the grandeur of the event. We don't give a f***. And I could say I'm distracted by your poor posture Mr CEO.
rules are rules, they don't let tennis players wear whatever they want in Wimbledon. They gave him and other players multiple chances to change, he was the only one who refused.
Oh shut up, what “violence” can this reinforce? A dress code is violence? Somehow you managed to make MALE dress code into an attack against women. FIDE is well within their rights to want to uphold a certain image associated with them and their events. Do I fully agree with how this went down? I’m not sure. But this is NOT about women. Not everything is about women. Y’all need to learn to interact with happenings without making yourselves the center of it.
@@gray_gogy maybe you should do some reading and you would understand, and I was using women's dress code as an example because women tend to be penalized more then men like Anna-Maja Kazarian about a year ago for wearing strange shoes when her "professional" shoes had been hurting her feet.
Buddy, Magnus is chess. I don't disagree the Magnus fandom is cult like but the reality is Magnus fandom = chess fandom. They are one of the same so every time you seem someone defending Magnus or siding with him they truly believe they are defending chess.
Fines are theft. If he is not nude any dressing requirement is tresspassing individual freedom to dress however one chooses. Institutions shhould not be allowed to impose sanctions or dictate fashion.
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Bro Even Hikaru and Fabi and Alireza and Pragg were 6 out of 9 pts and magnus was 5 out of 8 so it was in a range of comeback and it is even more irritating to get him out of one match at that stage which is equal to ruling him out so in sort he was ruled out. Anyways if he wasn't would have played rest of the matches trying to comeback and the bitz tournament if FIDE did allow him to play one more match in jeans like he had played three matches in it aldready and we don't know what the abreter said to him he was won 2 and 1 draw he had the momentum 1 win and he was in top 22 with 4 games remaining for tomorrow and the arbiter says you can't play next cause u wore jeans just imagine in his u are shoes then u will get the response he gave was correct and if u after losing one match and and on the first day made a great comeback face this if it were me I would do the same. And i am pissed as we could have got to see Hikaru vs Magnus or Magnus vs Alireza or Pragg or Fabi if he won even Anish Giri and Ian Nepo is on 6.5 in 4 games anything is possible. And he was charged fine anyways😅😅
Also just last week MC won the Champions Chess Tour Finals, so arguably he was just coming off that high and that's why he lost the last few days. Happens.
I can make analogy with the soccer - if FIFA had penalized Messi, and Messi would not play the tournament the funs will be upset. People watch the superstars, not the dinasaur's rules
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Those jeans will cost FiDE a lot more than $200. A lot of viewers and sponsorships lost. This CEO is not wearing a tie...
A tie isn't in the dress code
Tie isn't part of the dress code
You completely missed the point @@abhishekkj9664
@@edwarda9403you completely missed the point
@@edwarda9403ok -1 iq bro
Kramnik to FIDE: "Can we also do a jeans check on Danya?" 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Hahahahahahah yeah... I can imagine kramnik saying this
Need to do the jeans procedure
He actually agreed with Magnus and Hikaru. That's when you know FIDE fcked up 💀
Kramnik never liked fide, they didn't even recognise him as world champion for about ten years and invented a fake title to try and spite him and kasparov
Well well well
"Supposedly" the dress code was implemented to dignify chess and the players. A photo posted online clearly shows the FIDE president dressed in jeans and sneakers in a formal meeting with a senior Chinese government official. What is allowed to the top leadership of FIDE is not allowed to chess players. COMPLETE HYPOCRISY!!!
FIDE needs to stop the Karen Pants police.
The rules for meeting a government official were not broken, the rules of the tournament were broken. It is more like consistency than hypocrisy, Magnus had a "Do you know who I am??" moment and I feel bad that they couldn't be a bit more corrupt in the circumstance. Chess is a HIGHLY rigid bag of rules and regulations, Magnus is no innocent or naieve party, he probably has used his power many times in the past and people have bent to his wishes. He has earnt the right to power trip though, this is not bad behavior it is more in the colorful category.
Did you know that 3-5% of our species are sociopaths? They're easy to spot, once you know what to look for. Just putting it out there 🙂
@bradmodd7856 well said but over pants come on this is a joke when we watch chess we aint looking at there pants or shoes or whatever we are watching whats on the board
@@bradmodd7856 You do not get it. The FIDE rules on attire are stupid. A rigid bag? Come on, it is imposed by idiots and it can be changed. It is not cast in stone.
Can we take a minute to admire Levy's interview skills. He asked the tough questions, good work.
he didnt
lol he didnt ask tough questions wtf
I think he could push Magnus a bit more
I need an example of these tough questions
@@nicknorris100 For example, is the dress code enforced only for certain players? Is this really not about the dress code and about the freestyle chess controversy?
Why wasn’t the 200 dollar fine enough punishment and he shows up in different pants tomorrow? So stupid
Because FIDE is on a power trip. Obviously this dude went behind the head arbiter's back,while still supporting him all the way.
This shit has its roots on Freestyle Chess and FIDEs fear of losing its position as the leading marketer of chess.
Yeah. This sounds reasonable.
Because that sends a message to every other player that they can wear whatever they want if they have enough money. And Magnus has more money than every professional chess player on earth combined.
It’s not about the money, it’s about the principle. FIDE wants to bully players into submission by their arbitrary rules.
@@ADNAN0MNM and why would that be bad? I don't care what they wear, they could come naked, dressed as a t-rex or a unicorn for all i care...
I can't stop thinking that this is pure gold for Levy.
Ik right?! It seems that the events conspired to allow Levy to investigate the Magnus vs FIDE beef and provide content for him to shine as a journalist. Props to him for sure, he did an amazing job with the interviews and asked all the right questions.
he won't have Magnus' games to review though, including blitz...
How so? I'd think it's bad since he'll not have gmhis games to do the recap
@@hafezali860true, he mentioned in his video that in this case he takes Magnus' side but in the interviews he stays quite unbiased and neutral. good interviews!
The silver lining.
This guy vs Magnus in chess boxing, Mangus has to wear jeans
"Mangus?" 🤣
@@neonhills I think he meant Mangoose. The quacking chess super hero! 🦸♂️
He's out there cracking the bad eggs🥚
Mangoose by knockout, round 5 because he's angry and punishing him.
i would pay to watch fr
Why not both wear jeans? 😮
i'm sorry - but magnus jeans are more presentable than hikaru shirt
True
And both absolutely hate FIDE
THISSSS
So true, holy F!
Also Nakaru wears some pants that looks just like jeans, only when u look close u see it's not a jeans.
Do they not realize how horribly out of touch they are with the audience, you know, the one that actually cares about the games and the players and is watching all this unfold?
Do you not realize how horribly out of touch you are with reality? You can't change and challenge the rules during a tournament only before and after it
@@samadhanchauriwar8623
Completely irrelevant to the point, obviously. Point is that the vast majority of the audience doesn't care what they wear as long as it's decent. The rule never should have existed in the first place. Sure, Magnus has to follow the rules just like everyone else, but the rule is dumb.
@@ConsciousExpression doesn't change the fact that magnus was in the wrong here
Btw, Magnus looks much better in jeans because he takes care of himself and looks much better than this chunky guy in his suit.
“Chunky guy in a suit” lmao😭
what does this guy's body have to do with anything
@@nowheremapnot appealing to look at
😂😂😂
A BOARD game with in-game rules, somehow cares MORE about a f*cking dress code than actually important rules. Nonsense.
Ridiculous. We want to see great chess not what players are wearing.
No one knew of these rules until Magnus pulled of this publicity stunt because he doing bad in this tournament. Stop being so gullible.
@@revenantronin8377 huge ego trip by magnus
So worried about it being called "world championship", when the best player is not playing in any of it.
@@kevins320 Exactly nobody watch the game under the table its all on the board and players Skills not a fashion show.
Wake up FIDE. EVERY YEAR WE HAVE THIS DRESS CODE SHIT.
since when is this dress competition?
@@WithmeVerissimusWhostonedNo sport is dress competition but every sport has a dress code. Never saw Nadal breaking the rule of Whites at Wimbledon
@@WithmeVerissimusWhostoned WIM Anna-Maja Kazarian was banned for wearing sneakers. FIDE called them "sports sneakers" and banned her from the tournament.
Ridiculous. We want to see great chess not what players are wearing.
FIDE are alienating the younger generation, and the younger generation will go elsewhere.
This is such a stupid rule. FIDE is shooting themselves in the foot. Chess as a game is leaving FIDE behind and players no longer need this ancient organization
Stupid in which way. Why is this dress code exist . Dress codes are there for tennis players too in grand slams .😂
@@joylife428that’s because those outfits actually also help players in playing the game. They’re designed for comfort and movement. Chess is a mental game - this is some elitist nonsense by FIDE
@@joylife428 common bro, dress code is to prevent someone to come with underwear or beach clothes, maybe some revealing cloth, not accept a jeans is just elitist in 2024, that's not shorts.
FIDE and FIFA, same elite type
I agree with the whole ridiculous dress code thing. But they did give him ample opportunity to change his drawers. But hey, Magnus will Magnus. Because he can 👖
"We have been chasing players down as well"
Nice, well expressed... you're chasing people down because of how they dress... Ridiculous.
They really were proud of that huh
He said no tho. He said that it’s mostly for the top players since they are under spotlight. He admitted that kinda even if he used that line after. There were more players than a handful with “bad clothing”.
Absolutely ridiculous
"Chasing" was used by the interviewer. The interviewee just picked on that.
It's 2024. These days, people wear jeans with dress suit jackets. FIDE's dress code is out of touch with the modern World. This will alienate many young chess fans as yet more "old people's rules", and I say that as a 64 yr old!
Right? I thought Magnus was dressed really well!
I’m 73 and I agree with you. FIDE handled this badly . Let us see them apply their rules equally for every player. …..And where is your tie !! CEO …really
The rule leaves some room for interpretation. Jeans are not strictly forbidden if it is business attire. And that's the point. Magnus is one of the best-dressed chess players and his style is well maintained in the business world. Therefore, the move against him is clearly an insult and was not necessary according to the rules.
I wonder what a poor wretch this Chief Arbiter is... and of course FIDE as an organization. Anyone who covers something like that is not from this world.
Bro can't wear a suit properly and comes after Magnus. CEOs wear jeans also. Fide is a joke at this point.
Fide has been a joke for a long time
FIDE is WRONG here. Rules should always be enforced with reason.
Wearing jeans DOES NOT in any way affect the game of chess to the point where it justifies penalizing the player with game disadvantages (e.g., being banned from the next round). FIDE should've just fined him more, especially since he said he'll change tomorrow.
This guy is a liar he's trying to say it'sll all Magnus' fault because he is a bad sport. He has now tanked the tournament
Magnus is the total jerk here! The tournament rules apply to everyone, including Magnus. If he had a problem with dress code, he could have raised it before hand. If he wants to play in iconic venues and have high profile, he needs to comply.
@@SriGutta The issue is it's not just about the dress code. Based on Magnus's interview and one of Hikaru's videos, FIDE was threatening players who wanted to participate in the new freestyle/Fischer random venture. Magnus is just sick of FIDE in general tbh
@@antonsworldofvideos8096 who's fault is it then, he knows the dress code rules and was told multiple times to comply, he refused., How is that anyone but Magnus's fault?
@Temptthedevil That's Magnus' problem. He is trying to set up a business venture to promote his ideas and is having problems negotiating with governing body. That has nothing to do with these World Championships or dress code.
He needs to figure a way to separate his business interests from his play
Next in sports news: Lebron james kicked out of game for wearing a headband that was cotton based rather than polyester based. No one gave a damn except the pretentious organizers that like to go on power trips.
It's wildly ironic how you don't realise those ''principles'' ARE the power trip from a spoiled brat who thinks he's always the special one out and that others must always adapt to him
@user-vt4hd8hb4v is just a jeans bro
There's no rule in the NBA about headband material. Are you stupid?
@user-vt4hd8hb4v what an ignorant comment
how old are you kid
Oh my god... Magnus Carlsen dropped the f-word on you, and you still say there is no animosity. What a hypocrite. He is a nice politician, probably why he is successful at FIDE.
Hypocrite? Hmm, how should he have responded instead, in your view?
@donyc
1) How about acknowledging that Magnus already played 3 (or 4) games that day, and there was no reason to send him home just before the last one ?
2) How about acknowledging that we are in the 21st century, and stupid rules like this have no place. People want to see Magnus play, not his pants.
3) How about doing what is good for the game and not pretend like you're not trying to monopolize chess prestige without actually finding ways to get top chess pros paid for attending FIDE events ? Outside candidates and the world championship, there is no money. Chess pros are starving and you threaten them on top if they participate in non FIDE tournament ?
People wear jeans all the time, it's not like his shirt says, "F%$^ Fide" there shouldn't be a dress code as long as the clothes aren't too inappropriate for example so that kids can play as well
All players should wear jeans in protest tomorrow
lol
Yea, then Nepo at last can be a WC as the only standing player.
@@dank2476💀😭
@@dank2476you don't have to roast him like that 😂
That would be insane
FIDE kicking Magnus out for wearing jeans is like banning Mozart from a piano recital because his wig wasn't on straight - an absurd self-destructive display of vanity. If they're so obsessed with formalwear maybe they should start dressing pawns as undertakers to match the funeral they're orchestrating for the game.
This isn't about respect for the game, it's about a desperate, grasping need to control something they no longer have the competence to manage. FIDE isn't protecting chess, they're strangling it to compensate for their own irrelevance.
Stupid anology.
He wasn’t kicked out. Taketake is trying to paint that narrative.
@@kimborampagetaking one game from him and shuting down his chances to get first place comes to the same end dont play stupid here
@@gear1429 same penalty for everyone. Simple fact is he was not kicked out.
@@kimborampage He was. He offered to change for the next day. They disagreed. Is that hard to understand?
Dress code? Look at the CEO. What a slob. No tie, not clean shaven, hairs growing out of his nose, bad haircut, horrible posture. If that conforms to the dress code for the CEO, the players should be able to come in their pajamas.
Savage
magnus kneeler detected
@@loislane5092 which side of magnus' a55 you kissed
@@harshsrivastava8576is it bad to support magnus?
I hate magnesium calcium, but this comment is 100%.
If FIDE had any principles, they would have banned magnesium for what he did to Hans. Doesn't mean it makes sense to forfeit him over fashion jeans. They were probably more expensive than the pants most of the players were wearing, the dress code is moronic. I can understand if they ban swim trunks and flipflops, as it creates a spectacle, but any sort of fashion attire seems appropriate for chess. This isn't the 1950's.
This is honestly an embarrassment for chess. A dress code is such a premitive way of thinking. Especially when you are trying to promote it as an esport. Adapt to the modern times.
It's funny how Magnus was more formally dressed than Mr. CEO here
Magnus was literally wearing a polo and jeans with blazer. How is that more formal than what Emil Sutovsky wearing here?
@@ADNAN0MNM kid 🍼 for you...your brain isn't development yet 😉
Apparently rules for thee not for me
It is funny how Magnus simps can just say the sky is pink and get 100 upvotes from other Magnus simps.
I haven't seen one person who agrees with his decision, so that should tell you quite a lot Mr. CEO.
this has famously stopped so many CEOs in the past
All those people are hero worshippers.
@@madmaxglass True, but in this case FIDE is really not needed. The players can arrange their own events, and have done so. FIDE needs to work with the players, not behave like a headteacher.
Just because of this stupidity you FIDE lost the chance to let the GOAT 🐐 defend his title. I know his performance is as good as his past but you never know he started winning his game from game 8 and so you never know if he won. Magnus good choice!!
@@RTAC_1234Kasparov did the same with his PCA back in 1993. Look how that went. It's not just about the top rated players and closed invitationals between them. That's the easy part. The hard part is to organize rated events for all player levels across the world. Every top GM you see today started as a beginner. Even Magnus started out as an unrated player climbing the rating ladder and earning his title norms. Without an organization like FIDE, there would be no upcoming rising stars and it will just be the same few guys playing closed invitationals again and again. That gets boring quickly. Where is the entertainment for chess viewers if not witnessing rising stars get wins against the current best and making their way to the top to mark the next generation of players?
as a russian who left.. i just hate these kind of grey suit people, burocrats and so on.. so authoritarian, it just would piss off anyone who thinks independely
Yeah reminds me of that Georgian bald head GM Zurab Azmaiparashvili who banned GM Anton Kovalyov back in 2017 for some vague dress code violation; seems like a power trip.
because most "independent thinkers" are often idiots.
Magnus was 100% presentable. This is BS.
get your tongue out of his ringpeice mate, rules are for everyone who signs up to the event don't like them you can leave.
@@gredax imagine being as delusional as you.
@@gredax They can have whatever dress code rules they like, but if I wanted to see a fashion show I wouldn't chose FIDE. Now I will not chose FIDE if I want to see great chess either.
@@gredax He did leave? I'm not sure basically playing hard ball and disqualifying the greatest player of all time because of a dress code rule is good for FIDE or for the game. Magnus is at that level, as much as u guys love crying about it he is and he can say FUCK YOU to FIDE and leave. FIDE needs Magnus a lot more that Magnus needs them. I'm not sure why'd u be on a side of an org that clearly have outdated mindset when it comes to marketing the game and the rules.
FU fide. You are finished.
CEO? And he’s not wearing a tie? Inappropriate.
I was expecting to get really angry at reading stupid comments from cringe white knights defending fide but I am pleasantly surprised on how reasonable this comment section is.
Sorry Mr CEO but this interview didn't help
i think it's time to get rid of the monopoly of chess. some might not agree, but players are the first line of chess. they should be the loudest voice in the discussion of the way this historical game should head. this drama wasn't born out of jeans or the etiquettes that suddenly change - all of the beginnings and endings are in the fischer random (freestyle), as it takes a much more significant role in our times and fide being as old-fashioned as it is, makes strings attached. this is way we face this atrocious and comic situation. please boycott
Bring back PCA and let it organize the events :D
About every sport has a governing body.
Who says Magnus speaks for all the players? There were other players who were warned (including Nepo) and then complied with the rules. Let's not make it Players vs FIDE when it is only Magnus vs FIDE.
@@sahilmehra6158 the difference is - magnus is magnus which means he can stand against fide even alone, nepo (without fide tournaments) is like an amateur without a salary.
@@sahilmehra6158 Lol.. tell you dont like to be on the right side and want to follow the rules without telling me.
I get fining someone for a dress code violation but affecting their tournament chances because of it is ridiculous
he effected his own chances by refusing to comply, nepo complied and there was no punishment, it's really not complicated.
What chances dude lol
@@gredax i feel this is a bit of an oversimplification, it's pretty obvious that Hikaru and Magnus both are interested in these freestyle world championships. that is the real motive for the disagreement and i think pretending like it just had to do with dress code is silly, as the FIDE CEO said Magnus also probably was in a bad mood because he struggled in the first day of the event. there were multiple factors at play
@@gredax They fined him $200 for wearing a blazer from Off-White, of which I have a harder time understanding the violation than jeans.
If FIDE is being so overbearing as to make real a fashion police squadron, they have too many resources and not enough to do. Let them lose enough that they have work to do better, they'll be happier for it too.
Yeh I mean, Magnus hotel room is only 3 minutes away. That way too far to walk. Like the tournament gave him opportunities to change, but hey it's Magnus, he is bigger than any tournament rules or chess itself. Who cares about rules.
Hikaru literally said this goes deeper than just the dress code since Fide have been targeting players about plaiting in freestyle and making them choose to either play in candidates or play freestyle. FIDE ultimately wants control and Magnus used this as an opportunity to give them bad face and have a causus belli for his endeavor in non FIDE events. Regardless as is the norm for any governing body that starts with F (FIDE, FIFA, FIA) lots of bad things underneath. Is an understatement.
He is literally boasting about how generous FIDE is to magnus carlsen that with this 200 fine he is allowed for 2 more matches to play with jeans and that's it??? Him asking to change for tomorrow is not acceptable? That is so crazy to come to the interview and then make it sound like you are the victim and you did everything right while saying this bullshit. It is actually so unbelievable.
"we try to go the extra thousand miles for Magnus" but god forbid that involves wearing the wrong fabric on your legs, not once in those thousand miles.
And for 2 more rounds after we have already fined him***
@@andrejosue98that’s part all the FIDE fanboys leave out. I wonder why? 🤔
Should dress code the CEO for not ironing his shirt 😂
Looks ironed
@abhishekkj9664 it is very wrinkled
@@abhishekkj9664 He looks like he came to the interview after a night of partying in a bar, or like someone who gambled all day and lost everything.
I couldn't listen to anything he said because he isn't wearing a tie
Thankfully, we all can watch Magnus, Hikaru and top players in Freestyle Tour 2025
lol 😂😂😂
@Deerjason ?
@@renishisrael9520 it seemed like your comment was a hidden diss at Fide
@@Deerjason yes its not hidden also. Fide is being stupid here.
Michael Jordan was fined 5000 dollars for each game he wore his Jordan 1's, but he was never told he couldn't play. FIDE rules are stupid.
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Unreasonable rules often lead to unhappiness,
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for individual rights. Arbitrary rules often violate these
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My man used chatgpt to write a youtube comment lmao
Magnus was not happy about FIDE hassling players not to play a (Freestyle?) tournament. He mentions this but I suspect this goes deeper. Serious lack of proper mediation here methinks. And Chess joins esports next year. This could lead to a schism. This sounds like the CEO decided this was his Rubicon and defending himself by painting a negative picture of a demanding prima dona. I suspect he may come to regret this.I do NOT like the negativity in his answers regarding Magnus - there is something deeper here.
That’s what I’m thinking too. Like we don’t know all the details of the freestyle thing but there’s clearly a lot of underlying tension going on that probably started before the freestyle drama and will keep continuing. Today maybe Magnus’s last straw broke. And when you have the fame and GOATness of Magnus Carlsen you don’t need FIDE if you don’t want to work with them. Ex. Carlsen didn’t need to keep playing the WC to still be considered #1, the GOAT of chess, and keeping his current fame status.
Maybe Magnus is thinking of starting his own federation. It felt like he has been contemplating about detaching himself from chess for a while now and becoming a businessman instead
@@troillandford7679 Reminds me of the Kasparov-Short schism with FIDE back in the day.
@@troillandford7679Kasparov and Nigel Short created the PCA (Professional Chess Association) after his split with FIDE. Magnus has enough money, sponsors, social media fan & peer support to seriously cripple FIDE if he created a new organization.
@@raylopez99 nice comparison, assuming the events occur similarly to Kasparov’s. That might make the world of chess even more interesting. Imagine Gukesh defending his title from both FIDE and whatever Magnus calls his federation, levy would have so much content to milk lmao
Can't wait to watch all the top players in tournaments outside FIDE control.
Now we have 3 of the best players in chess history, leaving the FIDE mafia. Fisher, Garry and Magnus! So yes I agree with Magnus F**k FIDE.
Those arent 3 of the best, those are THE 3 greatest ....makes you think
Thats how you know for sure FIDE is messed up
I mean kramnik and hans noeman side with magnus just imagine that
They want to make chess a sport, but the FIDE CEO says dress code should not be too sporty. LOL.
It's fascinating how fide is trying really hard to lose their reputation in chess. I think this will result in a new chess federation.
They made it this far without a reputation, why would they sense any danger?
Alex Holowczak is a top guy & a top arbiter but he'll never let anyone bend the rules regardless of who it is.
That said the rules on dress code stink & need changing, Magnus looked far smarter than many/most that were not wearing jeans!
Alex Holowczak lacks common sense then... he comes across as a robot. Reminds me of an umpire in baseball who called a ball on the last pitch of an almost perfect game, denying the pitcher of a coveted perfect game. Discretion is the greater part of valor in such situations and it would have been better to call a strike and end the game (and from what I've read the pitch was a strike anyway). MC looks good in jeans and that's good enough for the dress code.
Back in your box dimwit, agreed Magnus looks smarter in jeans than the majority of others do without them. But Alex did not write the rules, he gets paid to enforce them. If you play in one of his events you know it will be ran efficiently & fairly.
No Magnus no watching FIDE!
End of FIDE
Let’s move to other where Magnus plays
Cheers!
Leave no one cares about egoistic players😂
Elon Musk?
@@hantergidino just the best players in the world
How to lose credibility as a federation :
Gained credibility that primadonnas will not be tolerated
FIDE never had credibility. It's why Kasparov split from them and formed his own organization in the 1990s.
gained credibility by enforcing rules.
@@gredax Yes, that is exactly a body/association/authority/organisation gains credibility when they enforce their rules and don't let powerful people in their own organisation get away when they try to bend rules
@@harshsrivastava8576 not by enforcing those rules, but making such non sense rules in the first place, thats how you lose it. It isn't as if he was playing wearing something very objectionable. At most it could have warranted a fine, nothing more, and forfeiting a round in wc where little points count, that too for casual clothes? that's lack of good judgement.
FIDE: "We gave him plenty of time to change his clothes. And ONLY FIDE HAS THE RIGHTS TO FISCHER WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP!"
Hell yeah
We know he played 8th rounds already and we fined him for 200$ but we wanted to really show him so we told him to go change even though we had already punished him and only 2 rounds were left
No chance this CEO should keep his position after this.
Between this and the BS with the Freestyle Chess, we should start putting out bets on how long it takes FIDE to fall from “grace” and go bankrupt.
It’s funny he compares Chess to Tennis… when what 90% of chess is played online these days? Sports that are always in-person it makes sense to have a dress code. Chess players are used to playing in casual clothes (for money) online. For them to stop him from playing…is absolutely a step too far. At the worst they should have fined him again and told him if he shows up he will be fined for dress code violation. Simple. Reasonable. It’s one thing if he’s wearing awful revealing clothes or something like that. But normal jeans… really?
they donot pay anyone. they want players to shell out money to play these
Even though Magnus wasn’t going to win probably it’s still a huge hit. My motivation to watch kinda went down 50%. It wasn’t a sports shorts or anything, it was a classy jeans. Probably costing more than most other suits there. If I would look around I would probably see others guys rocking not classy/well trimmed beards, hairstyles or even a cheap looking suit.
There was the still the blitz section he could've won.
Magnus dominating, Magnus making a comeback, Magnus losing, it all gets people to watch and gets sponsors involved. Magnus draws people to the game, no matter how he's performing. In fact, Magnus losing might even make MORE people watch because it's so rare.
Magnus has made insane comebacks in the history. Watch his recent Superbet Poland Rapid & Blitz 2024, where he went on a winning rampage of 10 games in a row against Super GMs when necessary to win the tournament. If he had won next 5 games, he could have been no.1 in Rapid as well.
He was 1.5 points behind and there were 5 matches remaining for him do you think he cant win that?
@@TubbsFatt mate he got bashed up by a random 2500 guy, he was getting crushed. Guy was losing and ego couldn't take it so pulls this stunt
I think increasing fines for each match played without adhering to dresscode makes sense. But refusing to let him (or anyone) play is petty and unreasonable.
I see this as magnus taking the hit to start the conversation.
they didn't block him from playing, they let him finish his round and asked, after the next round, which would have a break, for him to change, he's staying 5 minutes away from the venue, just have someone from his team, bc he's never alone, to get him some pants.
Also increasing fines makes no sense for someone like Magnus
I like that idea a lot, because as long as the players aren’t wearing something very immodest there is no reason they can’t play. While that gives FIDE the control that they want.
But there should also probably be reform in the requirements themselves. Like I’m sure Nepo’s sport shoes that he got fined on today are much quieter then the acceptable (but loud) dress shoes Alireza wore and got told off on DURING a candidates game.
this is 100% Magnus fault.
@@MaxIronsThird They had less than 15 minutes before the next round starts. You are expecting him to go & change just for the sake of so called "rules"? You know what? WIM Anna-Maja Kazarian was banned from FIDE tournament because she wore sneakers. FIDE called them as "sports sneakers" & banned her. What are you even defending at this point?
There's shouldebt be fines at all
If a player wants to play in a tank top and shorts they should be allowed to. This dress code shit is pure elitist garbage
This is a joke. You (FIDE) managed to get him out of classical chess and now you got him out of rapid and blitz. This is the most ridiculous thing that happened since the Karpovmanes era.
Magnus is washed he's too weak to admit it. So he pulled out and got himself banned here. He is a washed loser. Keep drinking the coolaid clown
He got out of classical chess because he says that weaker players can cover by memorizing theory but its actually him who struggles against new lines. Chess960 is proof of that(13.5-2.5 loss against wesley so is humongous). He was losing rating points and wanted to be eternally 2800. He stopped playing classical thus. Now he throws tantrums over a thing that can be managed easily when being warned multiple times. If it is a rule you have agreed to play upon, abide by it. As simple as that. But fans worship him. So he does what he wants.
@@harshrajbasant9440 ok, now try saying all of that without crying.
@@nikaabuladze3105 try a threeway with Magnus and his gf more often and I might stop crying
@@harshrajbasant9440 some rules are there to break them. We all are born free, you can wear what you want. It has nothing to do with the ability you have in your brain.
Hope the CEO keeps this same energy when investors and players stop showing up
I can’t hear his argument because he doesn’t have a tie.
He is not a serious CEO.
Player: *castles illegally*
FIDE: "1 minute removed from your clock*
Magnus: *wears jeans*
FIDE: "$200 fine - if you don't change within the next 30 minutes, you will be removed from the tournament"
30 min? He had more than 4 hours...
@@lostblue5651 it doesn't matter if it is 60 days to change, he shouldn't be asked to change on the first place.
@@15OgLoc because of his status? if rules are in placed, should they not be in place for everyone?
Players who play an agreed draw, then honorably confess to having done so (when they could have lied) are both double forfeited by FIDE is another example (thinking of the Nepo-Dubov fiasco, which cost both of them a potential title).
@@Miles-h6b nobody should be ask to change their god damn jeans on a chess competition.
It's unfortunate that the old FIDE farts care what people wear. The other players in the tournament should protest this archaic rule... imagine if EVERY player showed up tomorrow in jeans and sweaters!
That is EXACTLY what should happen. The "I am Spartacus" moment!
Ridiculous. We want to see great chess not what players are wearing.
Ridiculous. I want to see what different people think. Not this exact comment 20 times.
If Magnus is not playing, there is no reason for me to watch rest of the tournament
Hikaru and Daniel Naroditsky are still playing. Even Eric Rosen is still playing. Fabiano is still playing. India is following Arjun Erigaisi. Lots of reason to still watch.
it's ok, the last thing chess needs is mindless fanboys. bye bye 👋
@@Niceone11202011 when the best doesn't play, the title holds no meaning.
@@aries2764 Chess is bigger than Fide. Lots to enjoy out there besides this North Korean dress code hysteria. The local christmas Chess tournement is more entertaining than this tragic event. I was here to watch Chess, not fashion. Enjoy the rest of new York fashion week.
@@aries2764 normal 400 rated elo, welcome to get massacred on any platform lmao
They need to change the rule about jeans. Jeans are perfectly acceptable clothing.
Magnus did the right thing. Without the biggest chess star, FIDE's tournaments will probably not be very exciting. FIDE's decision here is a disaster for them. Freestyle chess will take over, FIDE will fade away
fide failed to understand that there rules are bad again
It's like a referee sending Messi off the field, saying it's not a disqualification, just for wearing the wrong style of boots, and then the FIFA president explaining how much they are doing for football and that this decision is actually aimed at improving all the wonderful things they want to build.
no, that's like Messi getting his shirt torn in a play, the rules say you can't play with a torn shirt, then the arbiter tells him to go to the bench and change shirts, he gets angry a nd leaves the game.
Terrible example because boots make a huge diff in football and that's the refs job lol. But if it was because messi had some unapproved hear style the metaphor makes sense.
@@MaxIronsThird you bud, listen to me. 11 months ago, WIM Anna-Maja Kazarian was banned from FIDE tournament because she wore sneakers. FIDE called them as "sports sneakers" & banned her. Also, what was FIDE doing when Alisher Suleymenov was wearing a watch against the FIDE handbook rules? What are you even defending at this point?
@@MisterAwesan I agree with you; I was referring to color, not something explicitly prohibited by the rules. Something that allows for ambiguous interpretation and doesn't harm the sport itself, but can trigger a "gatekeeper syndrome" in those looking for something to nitpick.
Ridiculous. We want to see great chess not what players are wearing.
CEO told sponsors, don’t sponsor FIDE, we will sacrifice your viewership for drama
This is too familiar.
Magnus: Change the format of the world championship or I’m out.
FIDE: No
Magnus: Ok I will not participate.
If you are on Fide's side remember that the players are barely getting paid. Players like Magnus and Hikaru, the absolute peak of chess and the main players who bring any traction to the Fide events are barely paid... insanity.
I laughed when he mentioned tennis and dress code.
The only tournament that has a dress code is Wimbledon, and that rule is that you haft to wear white.
Nadal experimented with this where he wore both white tank top (shirt without sleeves) and shorts over knees. This was fine and Wimbledon probably cleared out the rules for the future.
But afaik, tennis is casual when it comes to dress code.
rules are rules, you cannot debate the rules while the tournament is going on, only before or after it, magnus is not special in the eyes of the arbiter who follows the rules all players agreed on before they signed to play in the tournament.
@@vik24oct1991: Alex literally just wrote that Nadal expetimented with the rules in Wimbledon, which basically is the same as debating the rules while playing...
Wimbledon is the strictest, but other tennis Grand Slams do have a dress code. For example, "Sweatshirts, gym shorts, dress shirts, T-shirts or any other inappropriate attire shall not be worn during a match (including the warm-up)."
y'all dont know about Serena Williams getting in trouble for wearing a catsuit after her pregnancy?!
every sport has a dress code. i'm puzzled how you guys just now find out that there is such a thing. In tennis, in football, volleyball, handball, everywhere there are rules in regards to how you can dress.
Look at 50% of the other players trousers and tell me this rule isn’t stupid. The code is made for the players to look presentable. It was seconds after magnus’s case decided that another player in light blue worn out pants that was designed to look like worn out jeans was following the code. So all this drama came from magnus having the wrong fabric on his pants…
i thought chess was about chess, not about how players dress... it's pretentious and pathetic, and these people are losers
True, not to mention, as Levy said and as Emil seconded, that FIDE does not even enforce the dress code for players not shown on camera, like the 300th seeded player.
ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT THE CURRENT CHAMPION OF BOTH RAPID AND BLITZ WAS KICKED OUT BECAUSE OF A DRESS CODE ??!
because of failing to comply with the rules of the event yes.
@@gredax He was banned from playing because he was wearing Jeans. That might the most ridiculous thig I've ever heard.
@@Milan_N13 he wasn;t banned at all, he was asked to comply to the rules he signed up to, and he refused, other players had changed their jeans. He refused and then walked when he was punished.
@@gredax thats not the main issue here. this man / the ceo of FIDE wants to control chess all together / have a monopoly on it. Players like nakamura and magnus are CLEARLY not interested in being controlled by clowns like this. FIDE has told top players they cannot play freestyle and so on. this is really not about magnus pants.
@@gredax Listen to yourself a player (current champion) was banned from playing chess because he was wearing jeans and he refused to change it today and said he will tomorrow. think about how ridiculous that is before defending the people who did that. The dumb rule shouldn't exists in the first place but They should've gave him the fine and a warning not to do it again tomorrow and thats it.
This is ridiculous.... This is simply making a player uncomfortable, and basically showing power over others, the same as with freestyle world championship. FIDE is trying simply to own everything and bully players. The rethoric and speaking style of the CEO is also kinda sarcastic, not a symphatic person. Magnus clothing is more then presentable, nothing outrageous.. This must be a joke.
Would be great to see a lot of people playing with jeans tomorrow. There is so much stuff going wrong with FIDE rules (especially Tournament rules), World Champion's qualification, FIDE Circuit point system..., We don't care about the jeans, but this could be maybe be the beginning of a reforme that the Chess world realy need at high level since a long time !
Like that Idee !!
In the world championship title ceremony, the FIDE president(?) went on a very long tangent about how Ding and Gukesh are the 2 best players in the world, a notion that 0 people in the room agreed with. They pretended Maguns' absence wasn't important for a reason.
Well magnus was too scared to participate, so how can he be considered the best?
@@gredax😂😂😂 nice joke, nobody has taken the number one spot from the "SCARED PLAYER" you're mentioning
@@gredaxGukesh openly said that there is no question that Magnus is the best right now, and he aspires to be that one day. So you are about as objectively wrong as you can be.
@@dg_20234 because he was too scared to defend it.
@@saveusbloodymess Gukesh is humble and respectful. Ultimately that has 0 impact on the validity of my points.
Only fine would have done it. But here Fide ceo is trying really hard to justify chief arbiter's blunder move.
FIDE: Let's change the dress code to Black Tie for the next tournament.
Depends on locations and sponsors. Why not?
Need to wear all whites like wimbledon
@@petyai1348 Because sponsors don't care.
@@Kriddle1229 in top NYC locations? You have no clue
@@petyai1348 Yes, I do.
NICE JOB DOOFUS. The most marketable human being in chess is out. VERY VERY BRIGHT
One thing he doesn't say is that they fined Magnus for the jeans. Didn't just ask him to change before the last round.
Fide should’ve just fined Magnus more and given that money to charity. It’s a win win and a good way to enforce the rules.
the level of drama in FIDE chess is unprecedented. maybe the lack of feedback from the top players regarding the dress code situation should be a hint for GM Sutovsky about they think about the state of rules in this organization
No drama at all, every other sport has dress codes, 1 guy doesn;t want to follow it let him leave. No-one cares except magnus fans. chess fans don;t care.
@@gredax agreed. I could care less about him playing.
@@gredax yes you care as non magnus fans lol
All these dress code violations are just these top players taking out private financial grievances by deliberately creating dress code drama. Are you not smart enough to understand what the players themselves hint at extremely strongly. This isn't about dress code at all...
Exactly
FIDE has no right to hog the "World Championship" name. Especially when it would be the "Freestyle Chess World Championship" and not the "FIDE Chess World Championship".
Yeah I can see his points about the dress code stuff, but the naming thing is total extortion
Lol. Then every one will be a world champion. I can play a game with my gran and call myself Chess World Champion..
Every sport has and needs a governing body. FIDE is not the best or the worst. But, they are right on this issue. If they allow this, then anyone can come up with an idea to conduct a world championship.
@@SriGuttanot the same game…
@@SriGutta If you want to call yourself world champion you can. It's up to the public if they want to acknowledge it. Something tells me you and your gran will be the only one's who care about your title.
@Charge11 And that precisely is the reason Carlsen is desperate for FIDE validation..
Is a dress code more important than the quality and needs of the players? If so, then something is very wrong! And then the CEO would have to change his job!
Needs of the players 😂
Ian changed. FIDE's hands were tied.
It's not about dress code. The players are venting financial grievances by making planned drama. The whole stuff is kind of stupid.
If a dress code doesn't serve a mechanical purpose it's inappropriate. "The premises deserve respect" - he nailed it there. It's not about respecting the game, or the other players, it's about pageantry and making the organisation feel fancy and important because in the wider world FIDE just doesn't matter. They are irrelevant. So they impose these rules to pomp themselves up.
The "no poor people clothes" are entirely out dated, and act as nothing but a barrier for people entering the higher levels of the sport. Get a grip of yourselves. I'd far rather see respect for the players and their skill and allowing them to dress as they like. Give me players in high fashion playing others in dungarees. It should be about the sport, about the game, the clothes should be irrelevant.
too bad we are not seeing his trousers in this interview...
I just realized I'm not going to watch the rest of this event because of the fabric of Magnus’ pants.. lol.
Magnus' jeans is the only thing what this guy is worrying about. Many negative feedbacks about organisation of the tournament.
I just respected Levy even more after this, he held and navigated this very well. He was adding important perspectives to the situation throughout this.
clown
The argument „it was decided by players“ has the same taste as someone advertising gambling by playing it on stream, but saying „i didn‘t explicitly tell them to gamble“..
Overall, for an outsider like me this just looks like chess is not as important as what people look like.
In general, one would think that issues like this will be adressed after the day, not during the games are going. The players need to stay concentrated on the games after all. Anything else would surely affect the chess.
It‘s funny to see that in chess tournaments, the aim is not the best possible chess but a lot of other irrelevant things, like dress code, publicity and so on..
Also, this is a company. Things like „we 100% support the decision“ is meaningless, as of course they need to say this.
This guy gives me a "you are all my subjects" kind of vibe.
Why would I watch a FIDE event if the best player doesn't take part.
chill out fanboy, you daddy magnus was getting smoked anyway and he just found a way to save face 🤡🤡🤣🤣
@@aries2764 400 elo rated hater
Magnus was losing badly
Fide need to move with the times - or move over
I'm confused is this a dress competition or a chess competition?
if there is no dress code, people will come in with their shorts and sleeveless tees
@thanos7691 honestly i dont care i just wanna see chess
@@Mara941 who cares about you either.
@@thanos7691 just said my opinion who cares about u?
@@Mara941 I am Thanos, the worlds do care about me unlike you 😛
what if Magnus didn't have other trousers in his room? dude assumes that magnus can go to his room and change his pants, but how does he know if he has not jeans in his room????
The CEO makes more money then 99% of the chess players out there. He can Foff.
This guy looks like he’s related to Kramnik
Kind of. Emil won Kramnik to enter Chigorin club
Time to do the procedure
I laughed way harder than I was supposed to do with that 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i know right
As a casual chess watcher, this seems ridiculous. Even tennis players don't love the dress codes and I've watched tennis all my life. Also, dress codes may seem innocuous but to some degree it reinforces an invisible form of violence, especially with what they expect women to wear in these types of events. Magnus' jeans (and whatever others were wearing) at the end of the day are not distracting or taking away from the grandeur of the event. We don't give a f***. And I could say I'm distracted by your poor posture Mr CEO.
rules are rules, they don't let tennis players wear whatever they want in Wimbledon. They gave him and other players multiple chances to change, he was the only one who refused.
@ well, it was legal to own sl@ves, so...laws are wishy washy to me
Oh shut up, what “violence” can this reinforce? A dress code is violence? Somehow you managed to make MALE dress code into an attack against women.
FIDE is well within their rights to want to uphold a certain image associated with them and their events. Do I fully agree with how this went down? I’m not sure. But this is NOT about women. Not everything is about women. Y’all need to learn to interact with happenings without making yourselves the center of it.
@@gray_gogy maybe you should do some reading and you would understand, and I was using women's dress code as an example because women tend to be penalized more then men like Anna-Maja Kazarian about a year ago for wearing strange shoes when her "professional" shoes had been hurting her feet.
@@gray_gogy I'll give you a book rec : Dress Codes by Richard Thompson Ford. Be well♥
Your rules are fucking broken, Mr CEO.
I dislike FIDE, but the amount of Magnus riding in the comments is close to a cult...
Buddy, Magnus is chess. I don't disagree the Magnus fandom is cult like but the reality is Magnus fandom = chess fandom. They are one of the same so every time you seem someone defending Magnus or siding with him they truly believe they are defending chess.
Fines are theft. If he is not nude any dressing requirement is tresspassing individual freedom to dress however one chooses. Institutions shhould not be allowed to impose sanctions or dictate fashion.
It's an L for everyone involved, It's a W for the Take Take Take YT channel. Embrace yourself for these videos going viral and the amount of subs this drama brings. Congratulations!100K incoming 😂
Levy your shirt is not properly fit with FIDE dress code neither
Bro Even Hikaru and Fabi and Alireza and Pragg were 6 out of 9 pts and magnus was 5 out of 8 so it was in a range of comeback and it is even more irritating to get him out of one match at that stage which is equal to ruling him out so in sort he was ruled out. Anyways if he wasn't would have played rest of the matches trying to comeback and the bitz tournament if FIDE did allow him to play one more match in jeans like he had played three matches in it aldready and we don't know what the abreter said to him he was won 2 and 1 draw he had the momentum 1 win and he was in top 22 with 4 games remaining for tomorrow and the arbiter says you can't play next cause u wore jeans just imagine in his u are shoes then u will get the response he gave was correct and if u after losing one match and and on the first day made a great comeback face this if it were me I would do the same. And i am pissed as we could have got to see Hikaru vs Magnus or Magnus vs Alireza or Pragg or Fabi if he won even Anish Giri and Ian Nepo is on 6.5 in 4 games anything is possible.
And he was charged fine anyways😅😅
Also just last week MC won the Champions Chess Tour Finals, so arguably he was just coming off that high and that's why he lost the last few days. Happens.
@@raylopez99exactly and people say he withdraw because is cooked, he literally just won the CCT finals!!
I can make analogy with the soccer - if FIFA had penalized Messi, and Messi would not play the tournament the funs will be upset. People watch the superstars, not the dinasaur's rules
Unfortunately, the CEO doesn't care about chess but the dress code. 😅