Pretty much went like clockwork. Full ammo onload/offload was pretty much an "all hands" affair, "all hands" consisting of all non-Engineering personnel (deck, ops, weps, mardet, nav, supply, admin & X). Us Electricians made sure all necessary equipment was fully functional and that adequate lighting was available during nighttime evolutions (yes, 5 & 16 inch ammo & powder movement usually carried into the night). Each Turret's two strikedown trunks were used simultaneously as were every 2nd deck strike down winches. It was organized chaos.....guys on main deck moving projectiles & powder cans to the strikedown sheaves, guys on 2nd deck operating the winches, guys down in the flats moving and staging everything in it's proper place and securing it. The cooks keeping everybody involved with fresh danish & cinnamon rolls washed down with copious amounts of coffee from the 2 huge urns on the forward messdeck that never seemed to run dry. I saw it as a well choreographed Kabuki dance 😂.
Of course, in service the whole shell deck would be greased. Making it that much more fun to walk around safely, but also that much easier to slide the shells around, too. I like that the Museum is actually operating so much equipment. Wish the Navy would let you relight a boiler.
In addition to the Navy's "Verbotten" list regarding lightin' fires, rollin' generators and shafts you'd have to get those pieces of gear certified, no small feat even in an active duty status. Even before we test to certify, all flues, fire boxes, muddrums, water drums, steam lines, DFT's, pumps, motors, FDB's & fuel lines have to be visually inspected and pressure tested, any failure repaired and retested.... now we come to fuel, you have to scale and seal your fuel oil service tank at the very least, you do not put Navy distillate into degraded tanks. Then there's the feed water issue, the ONLY water that goes into that boiler is 100% pure, de-mineralized, deionized feed water, you fill 'er up with tap water you're in for a world of hurt. So you see, you just don't fill 'er up, light 'er off, drop all lines and go, much more involved than that....plus you will NEVER get the Navy's blessing for it anyway. Would be a blast though from an old "Steam Plant Engineers" point of view.
@@kiereluurs1243 In a word.....YES, I think so, even if the damned "auto correct" added a second "t". As long as the point of the reply is understood it doesn't matter anyway......Picky, Picky, Picky.
Way to much work and expense to get the boilers working after 30 years of inactivity. Not gonna happen. All this work in the turret is being done by shore power.
Now that was a great video. More please … i really enjoy watching the “how things are done” or “how things work” videos … along with the history, sailor tales / lore and most floating things painted grey … OR sinking things painted black (guess that’s another channel).
My father was a seabee in WW2, He was stationed in Honolulu for 8 months. Some of the work he did was unloading shells like these from damaged ships, it was dangerous and men were killed by shells falling over. Later during the war he helped build airfields all over the Pacific.
Great Work .... IOWA Vols!!! ...and YES, parbuckling is a bit nerve-wreaking!! Moving seas, Combat Condition I, Late/Early EARLY morning, enemy a-c/subs!!!
Super film! Wyobrażam sobie jak podczas walki strzelano 3 pociski co 40 sekund i trzeba było je podawać w takim tempie do wind amunicyjnych. Każde spóźnienie w podawaniu mogło oznaczać przegrana w bitwie morskiej. Szacunek dla marynarzy U.S. Navy !!! Super movie! I imagine that during the fight, three shells were fired every 40 seconds and they had to be fed at this rate to the ammunition elevators. Any delay in serving could mean losing a sea battle. Respect for U.S. Sailors Navy!!!
Actually, the rate of fire for a well trained 16"/50cal Gun Turret crew is 2 rounds per minute per gun. That translates to 3 projectiles departed that Turret every 30 seconds. If you expand that out to a "Full Broadside" you're talking 9 rounds every 30 seconds.
@@martypalmiere7672 This makes my admiration for the crew of this battleship even greater. A team of people under stress during a battle working as a team like a well-made machine. For the common good and for victory. U.S. The Navy was able to select the best people to operate such large ship guns.
Now, just imagine doing this multiple times, with all the rings moving, the turret moving and underway in heavy seas, in battle...extreme chaos under control.
It would work manually, but it would take a lot more effort. The capstans spin fast. It's a little intimidating at first, but the system works amazingly well.
fascinating. I wouldn't want to do that in "high seas" with explosive-charge shells. No doubt you get good at it. Why no hydraulic mechanical grabber device, to grab/push shells from inner to outer, say ?
So in a combat situation you would have 3 crews doing this to supply the guns with projectiles and the turret may be moving. On a greased floor that would be quite a dance.
More than 3 crews unless you're including every warm body on each projectile deck, powder flat & magazines for each Turret as an individual "Crew" otherwise you're talkin' around 25 - 30 guys per Turret. 😮
OP769 (the turret "owners manual") calls out 15 men per projectile deck: Proj hoist operator x 3 Proj ring operator Shellman (2 x 3 hoists) Shellman (3 working the forward arc) Electrician POIC of the deck
@@SomeRandomHuman717Your Point Is ? ? ?......I WAS that Electrician POIC [EM2(SW)]. You are correct, OP 769 is the "Gunnery Bible" However, you're mixin' apples and oranges as in one instance you're dealing with an active duty Commissioned ship of the line, in the other, a De-commed museum ship with minimal manning, albeit, every one of us has years and hours of experience performing this evolution...plus countless hours, laying out & planning every safety aspect to accomplish this without crushing bodies, arms, legs, hands , fingers & toes....everyone goes home alive with all parts attached and in working order. (We have multiple copies of OP769 as we do NAVSEA 300).
I posted this on the New Jersey channel as well. I figure it is just as well to post it here. I'm renowned for typos, and I do not know the Navy lingo--please forgive. This is probably as good a place as any to ask about photos in my dad's possession after he left the Navy in 1959. He was a PH1 attached to a squadron at NAS Jax when he was discharged. His last or maybe only cruise was aboard Sara CV-60 during Operation Strikeback. He would say that he was the only man allowed to wear his dungarees on the bridge since when they called him they need him there immediately to take photos. A large part of the photos deal with the Strikeback cruise. I've forgotten the names of the commanders and brass from all over NATO who took part. But Dad photographed a lot of them in meetings aboard the Sara. There are lots of hangar deck photos of planes And many photos of other ships. One very cool sequence includes a "tin can" (I forget her hull designation) coming alongside and running over what I think is a refueling line, in very heavy seas--which I believe is in the north Atlantic. One pic shows an Iowa in the Firth of Forth. One of the funny moments Dad would often recount was during shore leave. He and some other sailors were walking down the street when two men passed them, with one remarking rather loudly, "look at all that delicious seafood." I know the Sara crossed the Artic Circle since Dad kept his Order of the Blue Noses cards. He had two for that same cruise. I don't recall if the second is a duplicate or implies multiple crossings. Other pictures in the collection show various incidents at Jax. I think a PX fire and a plane crash are among them. He also covered the Missile Mail test. And there are lots of great photos of that. Additionally, he covered an early scale model space capsule test launch and retrievals. All in photos. My question for all of you is where/to whom I could send these? Surely, some outfit exists that would love to have them.
Email our curator, Dave Way. He's connected to all sorts of places that store and catalog items like these. He should be able to direct you. dway@labattleship.com And thanks!
I confess that I had only heard the term “parbuckling” in the contest of the righting of the OKLAHOMA and the COSTA CONCORDIA. What kind of sea state could this operation be performed in?
Scroll to the comment started by stevencarter3837. They've got a great conversation about the subject going on, including observations from the retired senior chief who taught us how to parbuckle.
When I toured another Iowa class battleship that is now a museum (you figure out which one), the tour guide said that there was a possibility that the floors in the shell flats had a light coat of grease on them. Has anyone heard that on the USS Iowa?
While in service, there was a light coat of oil applied to the decks. The reason was two fold. Lower the friction between projectiles and deck, and secondly to prevent rust from forming....
The shells they were moving in this video, were light weight dummy shells. If they were real, 2,000-pound shells, the floor would have to be oiled, or they would never move.
The shell that was moved in the video is an inert projectile painted in the color scheme of a 1900 pound high capacity projectile, and weighs 1900 pounds.
@@billkallas1762 NEGATIVE....they are not "dummy" projectiles ! They are genuine 1900lb. HC rounds that have been "de-milled" (explosive removed and filled with sand) and repainted. There is some BL&P rounds in the mix, they've been repainted to look like live rounds but they weigh 1900lbs. just the same.😮
With the exception of Turret II being permanently shut down every piece of machinery in each Turret is capable of powered operation, they are electrically operational, only thing lacking is massive amounts of hydraulic oil. You fill every sump with that and you've got fully operational gear.
@@JB-hu5jm There was only a residual amount of oil left over from the 1990 decommissioning, waaay too little to supply that 250gal. sump. No, Mike Getscher PBC Chief Engineer and Ops boss (COO) had ordered it, it arrived in five 55gal. drums and had to be hand pumped into the oil sump AFTER purging all old oil from it with a little fresh oil.
Thank you Sir. I read a lot about hydraulic leakage around the turrets machinery of BB61. Was it still leaking or was a problem fixed during her commissioning in the 80s?
@@JB-hu5jm Kinda goes like this....Turret 1 was the "showboat"...well maintained for tours. Turret 2 was our "shooter"....all distance & accuracy shots were fired by her. Turret 3 was referred to as "the rain forest"......still a fairly accurate observation today.
I still can't believe they moved shells like that, ok calm day moderate waves l, but what about the bad day. Avoiding Torpedos, taking a Hit, or listing because you can't Balist and a endless list of bad day things. A Large friend and a piece or rope is no match to an out of control shell
The gypsy heads have individual friction clutches installed, and when adjusted properly, you can parbuckle an Armor piercing round (2700lbs) up to a 20 degree roll...
The Royal Navy used mechanical hoists and overhead rails to move shells from shell room to the cages. Shells were stored horizontally in racks. Basically the shells was secured throughout its journey.
@@stevencarter3837the guns are constantly supplied by the inner ring, and are parbuckled into the projectile hoists. At the same time, a dedicated team of parbucklers replenish the inner ring from the outer ring. Can't speak about a torpedo hit, but the crew would most likely be
*sigh* I hate to be pedantic, but at 2:19 you shouldn't be coiling the parbuckling line, you should fake it out on the deck. It runs easier and doesn't kink.
Could also ballantine or harpoon coil. Lots of ways to make sure a line runs smoothly. We had no problems doing it this way, but appreciate the suggestion.
@@martypalmiere7672 Exactly. Hence the coil (but a ballantine or harpoon coil would stay more contained and run well, too). Another part of the challenge is keeping the line out of the gap between the rings. If it were spread out like line often gets when it's faked, it could slip into that gap and foul itself.
@@BattleshipUSSIowaLosAngeles I'm in total agreement, harpoon coil is the way to go, if my memory from ESWS training serves me, the coil is what was used in the Turrets.
If you ever go to USS Alabama there's a little Easter egg, there's a button that goes to a shell hoist when you enter the #2 barbette, it's still active and you can just push it and it lifts the shell up and down. There's no sign or anything that points it out, but it's there and it works and there's nothing telling you not to do it.
Sounds like they "modified" the hoist controls for public demonstration because ALABAMA's gear is the same as that on the IOWA. That being said to operate a projectile hoist you do press a button, that action only starts the hydraulic pump motor. In order to either lift or lower peojectiles you need to move a lever on the side of each hoist.😮
Until Ryan gets volunteers that have actually done this in real life instead of surrounding himself with "wannabe's" and "landlubbin' feather merchants" he'll never be able to duplicate what we have accomplished on the IOWA, all with original 1930's & 1940's installed equipment....... Pssst, Ryan, if you want to know all about Shore Power & it's capabilities you should consult the experts....namely qualified Battleship Electrical Plant operators like IOWA's Electricians Mates (EM), of which I am one (I'm the guy who did the power checks prior to our rotating Turret 3). "If the Snipes don't groove, the Ship don't move".
@@martypalmiere7672 Thanks for you work in getting Iowa up and running. I'm amazed that New Jersey can't attract former crewmembers, like Iowa has, who have first hand knowledge and experience with the equipment on board her. But we are left for Ryan to do his best guess at something and he often gets it wrong.
Seeing the shells handled makes them even more crazy.
860 kgs each. Then imagine them being pumped out 9 at a time.
Ryan watches in astonishment and disbelief.
Ryan just picks up the shell like a football, under one arm.
Yeah, and he shoots lightning bolts out of his ass.
Ryan does it, with his belt...
@@pasad335underrated comment
@@pasad335and ..carabiner…
It’s nice to see and hear the capstan in operation
By far one of my favorite workspaces I manned
Still owe you a pic of your name in the interstitial space. Haven't forgotten!
@@BattleshipUSSIowaLosAngelesI don’t have that but Iowa and Nimitz did a cruise together I was cooking and doing security.
What a show that must've been with a full crew and full complement of shells!
Pretty much went like clockwork. Full ammo onload/offload was pretty much an "all hands" affair, "all hands" consisting of all non-Engineering personnel (deck, ops, weps, mardet, nav, supply, admin & X). Us Electricians made sure all necessary equipment was fully functional and that adequate lighting was available during nighttime evolutions (yes, 5 & 16 inch ammo & powder movement usually carried into the night). Each Turret's two strikedown trunks were used simultaneously as were every 2nd deck strike down winches. It was organized chaos.....guys on main deck moving projectiles & powder cans to the strikedown sheaves, guys on 2nd deck operating the winches, guys down in the flats moving and staging everything in it's proper place and securing it. The cooks keeping everybody involved with fresh danish & cinnamon rolls washed down with copious amounts of coffee from the 2 huge urns on the forward messdeck that never seemed to run dry.
I saw it as a well choreographed Kabuki dance 😂.
It is amazing yall have all that equipment still in a functional state. That is wonderful and helps to really tell the story of life on board.
Of course, in service the whole shell deck would be greased. Making it that much more fun to walk around safely, but also that much easier to slide the shells around, too. I like that the Museum is actually operating so much equipment. Wish the Navy would let you relight a boiler.
In addition to the Navy's "Verbotten" list regarding lightin' fires, rollin' generators and shafts you'd have to get those pieces of gear certified, no small feat even in an active duty status. Even before we test to certify, all flues, fire boxes, muddrums, water drums, steam lines, DFT's, pumps, motors, FDB's & fuel lines have to be visually inspected and pressure tested, any failure repaired and retested.... now we come to fuel, you have to scale and seal your fuel oil service tank at the very least, you do not put Navy distillate into degraded tanks. Then there's the feed water issue, the ONLY water that goes into that boiler is 100% pure, de-mineralized, deionized feed water, you fill 'er up with tap water you're in for a world of hurt.
So you see, you just don't fill 'er up, light 'er off, drop all lines and go, much more involved than that....plus you will NEVER get the Navy's blessing for it anyway.
Would be a blast though from an old "Steam Plant Engineers" point of view.
@@martypalmiere7672 I guess you mean the German 'verboten'.
Is that 'cooler' than 'forbidden', even when spelled wrong?
@@kiereluurs1243
In a word.....YES, I think so, even if the damned "auto correct" added a second "t". As long as the point of the reply is understood it doesn't matter anyway......Picky, Picky, Picky.
Way to much work and expense to get the boilers working after 30 years of inactivity. Not gonna happen. All this work in the turret is being done by shore power.
Thin coat of oil on the projectile decks, not grease.
Iowa will easily be in the top 10 museum ships!
A very educational video. Lot of weight for a shell.
Now that was a great video. More please … i really enjoy watching the “how things are done” or “how things work” videos … along with the history, sailor tales / lore and most floating things painted grey … OR sinking things painted black (guess that’s another channel).
My father was a seabee in WW2, He was stationed in Honolulu for 8 months. Some of the work he did was unloading shells like these from damaged ships, it was dangerous and men were killed by shells falling over. Later during the war he helped build airfields all over the Pacific.
Cool to see it in operation, and how effortless it really seems to move those baby's, akd you probably didn't even have the deck that oiled or greased
One of the coolest things ever.
It's so much easier to understand when you see it in action, any time i have it explained to me it only half makes sense
Yep, pictures, and in this case video, is worth a thousand words.
Impressive
Fantastic work as always Iowa crew 👍
Great Work .... IOWA Vols!!!
...and YES, parbuckling is a bit nerve-wreaking!! Moving seas, Combat Condition I, Late/Early EARLY morning, enemy a-c/subs!!!
Super film! Wyobrażam sobie jak podczas walki strzelano 3 pociski co 40 sekund i trzeba było je podawać w takim tempie do wind amunicyjnych. Każde spóźnienie w podawaniu mogło oznaczać przegrana w bitwie morskiej. Szacunek dla marynarzy U.S. Navy !!! Super movie! I imagine that during the fight, three shells were fired every 40 seconds and they had to be fed at this rate to the ammunition elevators. Any delay in serving could mean losing a sea battle. Respect for U.S. Sailors Navy!!!
Actually, the rate of fire for a well trained 16"/50cal Gun Turret crew is 2 rounds per minute per gun. That translates to 3 projectiles departed that Turret every 30 seconds. If you expand that out to a "Full Broadside" you're talking 9 rounds every 30 seconds.
@@martypalmiere7672 This makes my admiration for the crew of this battleship even greater. A team of people under stress during a battle working as a team like a well-made machine. For the common good and for victory. U.S. The Navy was able to select the best people to operate such large ship guns.
Pretty close there friend, but the rate of fire is 1 round every 30 seconds per gun so that would be 18 rounds in 1 minute.😮
Polska ?
@@martypalmiere7672 Tak
Now, just imagine doing this multiple times, with all the rings moving, the turret moving and underway in heavy seas, in battle...extreme chaos under control.
That is moving a ton on projectile very fast, thanks for the video
Agree! The speed is intimidating at first, but you more or less get used to it.
I'm only just learning now that those capstans were motorised and spun to aid the movement. I thought it was all 100% manual pulling on ropes.
It would work manually, but it would take a lot more effort. The capstans spin fast. It's a little intimidating at first, but the system works amazingly well.
fascinating. I wouldn't want to do that in "high seas" with explosive-charge shells. No doubt you get good at it. Why no hydraulic mechanical grabber device, to grab/push shells from inner to outer, say ?
That was slick
Так и до выхода в море недалеко 😊
wonderful
So that's how they did it!
THAT was amazing!! The capstan seemed to turn quite quickly, too. Would that evolution of moving a shell always be done by a crew of 2?
Thank you...
Thanks for watching!
Imagine doing it when the ship is rocking.
So in a combat situation you would have 3 crews doing this to supply the guns with projectiles and the turret may be moving. On a greased floor that would be quite a dance.
More than 3 crews unless you're including every warm body on each projectile deck, powder flat & magazines for each Turret as an individual "Crew" otherwise you're talkin' around 25 - 30 guys per Turret. 😮
OP769 (the turret "owners manual") calls out 15 men per projectile deck:
Proj hoist operator x 3
Proj ring operator
Shellman (2 x 3 hoists)
Shellman (3 working the forward arc)
Electrician
POIC of the deck
Yep, poetry in motion !
@@SomeRandomHuman717Your Point Is ? ? ?......I WAS that Electrician POIC [EM2(SW)]. You are correct, OP 769 is the "Gunnery Bible" However, you're mixin' apples and oranges as in one instance you're dealing with an active duty Commissioned ship of the line, in the other, a De-commed museum ship with minimal manning, albeit, every one of us has years and hours of experience performing this evolution...plus countless hours, laying out & planning every safety aspect to accomplish this without crushing bodies, arms, legs, hands , fingers & toes....everyone goes home alive with all parts attached and in working order.
(We have multiple copies of OP769 as we do NAVSEA 300).
@@martypalmiere7672 Sorry I thought I was replying to the OP lawrencehudson9939, he seemed like he was interested in knowing the manning levels
👍👍👍
I posted this on the New Jersey channel as well. I figure it is just as well to post it here.
I'm renowned for typos, and I do not know the Navy lingo--please forgive.
This is probably as good a place as any to ask about photos in my dad's possession after he left the Navy in 1959. He was a PH1 attached to a squadron at NAS Jax when he was discharged. His last or maybe only cruise was aboard Sara CV-60 during Operation Strikeback.
He would say that he was the only man allowed to wear his dungarees on the bridge since when they called him they need him there immediately to take photos. A large part of the photos deal with the Strikeback cruise. I've forgotten the names of the commanders and brass from all over NATO who took part. But Dad photographed a lot of them in meetings aboard the Sara.
There are lots of hangar deck photos of planes And many photos of other ships. One very cool sequence includes a "tin can" (I forget her hull designation) coming alongside and running over what I think is a refueling line, in very heavy seas--which I believe is in the north Atlantic. One pic shows an Iowa in the Firth of Forth.
One of the funny moments Dad would often recount was during shore leave. He and some other sailors were walking down the street when two men passed them, with one remarking rather loudly, "look at all that delicious seafood."
I know the Sara crossed the Artic Circle since Dad kept his Order of the Blue Noses cards. He had two for that same cruise. I don't recall if the second is a duplicate or implies multiple crossings.
Other pictures in the collection show various incidents at Jax. I think a PX fire and a plane crash are among them. He also covered the Missile Mail test. And there are lots of great photos of that. Additionally, he covered an early scale model space capsule test launch and retrievals. All in photos.
My question for all of you is where/to whom I could send these? Surely, some outfit exists that would love to have them.
Email our curator, Dave Way. He's connected to all sorts of places that store and catalog items like these. He should be able to direct you. dway@labattleship.com
And thanks!
I confess that I had only heard the term “parbuckling” in the contest of the righting of the OKLAHOMA and the COSTA CONCORDIA.
What kind of sea state could this operation be performed in?
Scroll to the comment started by stevencarter3837. They've got a great conversation about the subject going on, including observations from the retired senior chief who taught us how to parbuckle.
When I toured another Iowa class battleship that is now a museum (you figure out which one), the tour guide said that there was a possibility that the floors in the shell flats had a light coat of grease on them. Has anyone heard that on the USS Iowa?
While in service, there was a light coat of oil applied to the decks. The reason was two fold. Lower the friction between projectiles and deck, and secondly to prevent rust from forming....
The shells they were moving in this video, were light weight dummy shells. If they were real, 2,000-pound shells, the floor would have to be oiled, or they would never move.
The shell that was moved in the video is an inert projectile painted in the color scheme of a 1900 pound high capacity projectile, and weighs 1900 pounds.
@@billkallas1762 NEGATIVE....they are not "dummy" projectiles ! They are genuine 1900lb. HC rounds that have been "de-milled" (explosive removed and filled with sand) and repainted. There is some BL&P rounds in the mix, they've been repainted to look like live rounds but they weigh 1900lbs. just the same.😮
@@martypalmiere7672 I just assumed that they were lightweight replica shells, because of how easy they moved on an un-oiled, steel deck.
I was just there, three weeks ago.
I didn't know that the inner ring and capstan still could move under power.
With the exception of Turret II being permanently shut down every piece of machinery in each Turret is capable of powered operation, they are electrically operational, only thing lacking is massive amounts of hydraulic oil. You fill every sump with that and you've got fully operational gear.
Did you have to add some new hydraulic oil or did you work with the one left from 1990?
@@JB-hu5jm There was only a residual amount of oil left over from the 1990 decommissioning, waaay too little to supply that 250gal. sump. No, Mike Getscher PBC Chief Engineer and Ops boss (COO) had ordered it, it arrived in five 55gal. drums and had to be hand pumped into the oil sump AFTER purging all old oil from it with a little fresh oil.
Thank you Sir. I read a lot about hydraulic leakage around the turrets machinery of BB61. Was it still leaking or was a problem fixed during her commissioning in the 80s?
@@JB-hu5jm Kinda goes like this....Turret 1 was the "showboat"...well maintained for tours. Turret 2 was our "shooter"....all distance & accuracy shots were fired by her. Turret 3 was referred to as "the rain forest"......still a fairly accurate observation today.
I want to know how many have been dropped, tipped or fallen in the past.
Scary thought!
Can you imagine doing that with the ship rolling in heavy seas?
Right? Scary.
Don’t show this video to your insurance company lol
I still can't believe they moved shells like that, ok calm day moderate waves l, but what about the bad day. Avoiding Torpedos, taking a Hit, or listing because you can't Balist and a endless
list of bad day things. A Large friend and a piece or rope is no match to an out of control shell
The gypsy heads have individual friction clutches installed, and when adjusted properly, you can parbuckle an Armor piercing round (2700lbs) up to a 20 degree roll...
@@richardkoehnen7348 ok but an impact of an incoming or torpedo or maybe even the recoil of the gun your supplying after all your in it's Barbet
The Royal Navy used mechanical hoists and overhead rails to move shells from shell room to the cages. Shells were stored horizontally in racks. Basically the shells was secured throughout its journey.
@@stevencarter3837the guns are constantly supplied by the inner ring, and are parbuckled into the projectile hoists. At the same time, a dedicated team of parbucklers replenish the inner ring from the outer ring. Can't speak about a torpedo hit, but the crew would most likely be
Bracing for shock, so no projectiles would be in motion at that time.
*sigh* I hate to be pedantic, but at 2:19 you shouldn't be coiling the parbuckling line, you should fake it out on the deck. It runs easier and doesn't kink.
Could also ballantine or harpoon coil. Lots of ways to make sure a line runs smoothly. We had no problems doing it this way, but appreciate the suggestion.
And becomes one helluva tripping hazard in a small space with a lot of feet moving around.
@@martypalmiere7672 Exactly. Hence the coil (but a ballantine or harpoon coil would stay more contained and run well, too).
Another part of the challenge is keeping the line out of the gap between the rings. If it were spread out like line often gets when it's faked, it could slip into that gap and foul itself.
@@BattleshipUSSIowaLosAngeles I'm in total agreement, harpoon coil is the way to go, if my memory from ESWS training serves me, the coil is what was used in the Turrets.
@@martypalmiere7672 Then we will make that happen again! It really does seem like the best way to go. Keep the line contained and flat.
If you ever go to USS Alabama there's a little Easter egg, there's a button that goes to a shell hoist when you enter the #2 barbette, it's still active and you can just push it and it lifts the shell up and down. There's no sign or anything that points it out, but it's there and it works and there's nothing telling you not to do it.
Sounds like they "modified" the hoist controls for public demonstration because ALABAMA's gear is the same as that on the IOWA. That being said to operate a projectile hoist you do press a button, that action only starts the hydraulic pump motor. In order to either lift or lower peojectiles you need to move a lever on the side of each hoist.😮
@@martypalmiere7672 ok I checked the video I took, it's a black rocker switch the controls the up/down motion.
It is definitely a "homemade " but effective display. The actual hoist rack never moves.
....Ryan...get the New Jersey turret working stat
Ryan is always a day late and a dollar short compared to Iowa.
Until Ryan gets volunteers that have actually done this in real life instead of surrounding himself with "wannabe's" and "landlubbin' feather merchants" he'll never be able to duplicate what we have accomplished on the IOWA, all with original 1930's & 1940's installed equipment.......
Pssst, Ryan, if you want to know all about Shore Power & it's capabilities you should consult the experts....namely qualified Battleship Electrical Plant operators like IOWA's Electricians Mates (EM), of which I am one (I'm the guy who did the power checks prior to our rotating Turret 3).
"If the Snipes don't groove, the Ship don't move".
@@martypalmiere7672 Thanks for you work in getting Iowa up and running. I'm amazed that New Jersey can't attract former crewmembers, like Iowa has, who have first hand knowledge and experience with the equipment on board her. But we are left for Ryan to do his best guess at something and he often gets it wrong.
@@CoThG Ah Grasshopper......spoken like a true champion.
@martypalmiere7672 I wish there were guys like you were volunteering for the NJ.
Was that a 1900 or 2700 lb round ?
1900 lbs