Darth Vader’s Reaction to Tarkin’s Decision to Destroy Alderaan! (Legends)

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    The Non-Canon Expert looks at Darth Vader's reaction to Grand Moff Tarkin's decision to use the Death Star to destroy Alderaan, examining two versions of the scene that follows that appearing in A New Hope as found within Legends novels.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 299

  • @gabrieldjatienza6971
    @gabrieldjatienza6971 5 років тому +305

    Some people mistake Vader for destroying Alderaan...no, it is Tarkin's doing, Vader merely allowed it.

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 3 роки тому +53

      I would not even used the word "allowed", as its quite obvious who was in charge. Tarkin. He knew it and he didn't give a toss what Vader said or did.
      There is really no way Vader could have stopped him, short of running him through with his lightsaber, which would have resulted in him being killed by the Emperor for treason in short order.

    • @heartless3
      @heartless3 3 роки тому +16

      @@englishlady9797 I doubt the emperor would have replaced vader. At this point raising and finding another force sensitive being is difficult. In one of the comics Vader was sent to the jedi temple to retrieve a list of children who were eligible younglings. He had purposely destroyed the list so he could not be replaced. Vader would've likely suffered a lightning wrath from sidious if he didn't fully approve. I think the other issue here is palpatine approved blowing up a planet but he himself was not expecting alderaan. It's sort of a if he had known which planet he probably would've said maybe not kind of situation. It's not like the imperials would've arrested vader for treason either. He could've easily wiped out anyone in the room. Seeing that vader kills captains and admirals left and right, vader would likely just need proper justification and palpatine would've went along with it. Tarkin was important before the death star was fully operational. After seeing it's completion he might not be as important.

    • @derpderp2503
      @derpderp2503 3 роки тому +3

      allowed it? he was just around kinda.

    • @This_is_not_taylors_verion
      @This_is_not_taylors_verion 3 роки тому +8

      At that point tarkin outranked Darth vader so he couldn't do anything. That's why when he told vader that's enough in 4, he stopped

    • @chrismc410
      @chrismc410 3 роки тому +1

      There wasn't much he could really do about it as this was Tarkin's and ultimately Palpatine's decisions and at the time Vader answered to only to Tarkin and Palpatine. If he tried disagreeing much less do anything to stop it, Vader would have faced extremely dire consequences up to and including his own death. He can't overthrow Palpatine if he's dead.

  • @Burning-Twilight
    @Burning-Twilight 5 років тому +561

    One version we have Vader basically going like "Alright whatever." Another we have Vader "Wow I thought my boss was pure evil but you are something else, speaking of which do you even have his permission to blow this planet up?"

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 5 років тому +103

      Right??? Even Palpatine mightve face palmed muttering somethin along the lines of "he did what..."

    • @VictorTorres-rg9lp
      @VictorTorres-rg9lp 5 років тому +17

      Robert Agu hell wouldn’t have it been better to blow up some random planet. That had no population and also unimportant.

    • @krispalermo8133
      @krispalermo8133 5 років тому +55

      Emperor : He did what ! Did that Fool know how much tax money that world brought into the empire ?

    •  5 років тому +2

      @@krispalermo8133
      Well yes, but actualy no. It was asserting dominance : "We are willing to destroy even a highly populated planet, if it means defeating the rebelion".
      Imagine the terror : People would fight the rebelion on their own planets, so that they don't risk their destruction. If the rebels would had not destroyed the Death Star, it would soon mean the end of the rebelion, even if some of them would have ran away from the rebel base.

    • @Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan
      @Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan 4 роки тому +19

      It's really stupid to destroy the entire planet. Losing all the resources including the people. It would also be a painless instant death.

  • @ajra6143
    @ajra6143 5 років тому +319

    Vader before finding out: Meh, whatever. Let Tarkin have his fun
    Vader after finding out: Oh crap. Child services are gonna be all over my ass for this, both my son and daughter. If there’s a chance I’m fatally wounded with no chance of recovery, I’m taking it

    • @krispalermo8133
      @krispalermo8133 5 років тому +13

      That is the reason why Vader died at the end of RotJ.
      GL did not even guest who the Skywalker twins' mother was.
      And you know Leia will have chewed Vader's burnt scared ass over what he has done for the past 23 years.

    • @beatricesanfilippo6925
      @beatricesanfilippo6925 Рік тому

      Is that because the Son that fucking demon show you a vision when you were Mortis

  • @KaiserAfini
    @KaiserAfini 5 років тому +552

    The great irony is that Tarkin was very wrong even by Machiavellian logic. Machiavelli stated that cruelty should be used rarely, only in dire need and in such a calculated manner that everything is finished in one swift motion, so the population can quickly forget and go on with their lives. Tarkin ended up destroying a valuable planet for no immediate gain, to apply the constant cruelty of fear and leaving the loose end that was the Rebellion still standing. As such, much like a cornered animal, certain doom prompted violent reaction from the population against the regime. Tarkin's Doctrine was therefore wasteful and counterproductive.

    • @andych8425
      @andych8425 5 років тому +75

      and Darth Bane slaps Palpatine for allowing a crazy person to screw over the empire at its conception XD

    • @jarddooku5190
      @jarddooku5190 5 років тому +3

      Very well said

    • @neofulcrum5013
      @neofulcrum5013 5 років тому +18

      Tarkin was undoubtedly a fool

    • @MarioMario-vn3fx
      @MarioMario-vn3fx 5 років тому +26

      Yeah he also gave a rallying cry for the Rebellion.

    • @JeffreyBarkdull
      @JeffreyBarkdull 5 років тому +4

      And Sidious slaps Tarkin for his Idiocy andy ch

  • @trashpandaproductions3855
    @trashpandaproductions3855 5 років тому +250

    Tarkins final thoughts before the Death Star blew up.
    'Should have let Krennic have this achievement.'

    • @acrazysheepdog1555
      @acrazysheepdog1555 3 роки тому +52

      Krennic would’ve actually been a better choice, with oversight of course. He actually figured out what Jynn was talking about when she told him his project was sabotaged, and if he survived, he would’ve shut it down and go over every bolt in that damn battle station, and he even figured out the whole exhaust port thing, funny how Tarkin killing Krennic was what ultimately doomed himself as well.

    • @dorthvoder9375
      @dorthvoder9375 3 роки тому +2

      69 likes leave it that way

    • @Alverant
      @Alverant 4 місяці тому +2

      The last thing to go through Tarkin's mind was his skull being vaporized to plasma.

  • @concept5631
    @concept5631 3 роки тому +101

    Tarkin: *uses the Death Star to destroy Alderaan, one of the core worlds and one of the most influential planets in the Galaxy*
    Vader: "You're fucking insane... I respect that."

  • @andych8425
    @andych8425 5 років тому +161

    a new level of insanity achieved when a Dark Lord of the Sith thinks you're nuts.... XD

  • @garywillig5143
    @garywillig5143 5 років тому +54

    The new canon makes it seem like Vader was against the Death Star on principle. In the Darth Vader comic when he realized Tarkin was building a planet killer he seemed upset and prophesied that it would be Tarkin's tomb. In Rogue 1 he criticized the destruction of Jedha despite it being ordered by Tarkin and only had disparaging words for the Death Star itself. And there was his famous line in the original movie 'don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed.' After the Death Star was destroyed he told the Emperor that the "arrogance" of the weapon "courted disaster."

  • @ryanrobison6334
    @ryanrobison6334 5 років тому +351

    Vader: "He's insane. Of that there's no doubt... I respect that."

    • @Cuban20
      @Cuban20 5 років тому +12

      😆

    • @beatricesanfilippo6925
      @beatricesanfilippo6925 Рік тому

      Is that because you hidden Ezra and Ahsoka After you told him that Tarkin blows up Alderaan.

  • @Alexthe360Great
    @Alexthe360Great 5 років тому +244

    When Tarkin said he had permission to display the power of the Death Star, I don't think blowing up Alderaan is what Papa Palpy had in mind, especially when he refuses to give the exact details of what they are doing as Vader wanted to do. I think he only got permission to blow up the planet the Rebel base was on, not one of the most well known and culturally important planets in the Core.

    • @BlackAdder1970
      @BlackAdder1970 5 років тому +2

      Not true. What happened in the movie is what happened. Nothing more nothing less

    • @TheKyrix82
      @TheKyrix82 5 років тому +21

      Honestly, Alderaan had always been a thorn in Palpatine's side

    • @Alexthe360Great
      @Alexthe360Great 5 років тому +33

      @@BlackAdder1970 Well what happened in the novelization simply expanded upon what we saw, so it's still plausible. Plus, it would explain why Tarkin was being careful with his choice of words.

    • @Alex-ji6ob
      @Alex-ji6ob 5 років тому +12

      I can imagine a scene like the one in Robot Chicken where Palpatine learns about the Death Star's destruction, only this time it's about the destruction of Alderaan

    • @dazdavis7896
      @dazdavis7896 5 років тому +13

      Russ Green what in tf are you even talking about.... NO shit it’s what happened. They do not change what happened in the films, they just expand on what took place during those events. What was going through their minds at that point. He’s saying that Palpatine did not intend for Tarkin to blow up Alderaan like he did, he did not expect that would happen. I mean did you even read it...

  • @darthlazurus4382
    @darthlazurus4382 3 роки тому +19

    Blowing up Alderaan was idiotic. Threatening Princess Leia with the act made sense, but they should have investigated Dantoonie first, and THEN returned to Alderaan.
    The the dread Leia would feel would be overwhelming on the return, and she might have broken to save her people.
    If she didn't, then the destruction of the planet could arguably be put on her, and the guilt would help in bringing the Princess to the Dark Side.
    Tarkin just wanted to show off his new toy, like a spoiled child.

  • @superbrownbrown
    @superbrownbrown 3 роки тому +20

    Three things I know for sure:
    1.) Tarkin was the most evil non-Force sensitive life form in the Star Wars universe.
    2.) The Death Star was much more effective than the Eludium Pew Thirty-Six Explosive Space Modulator.
    3.) Alderaan was obstructing Tarkin's view of Venus.

  • @themythicwaffle
    @themythicwaffle 4 роки тому +27

    Imagine if the Emperor was on Alderaan when it blew up.

  • @dazdavis7896
    @dazdavis7896 5 років тому +41

    “After coming at him with that tone, Vader concluded that Tarkin.... was insane”

  • @UncleMikeDrop
    @UncleMikeDrop 5 років тому +84

    The only problem is that it had the opposite effect. Many people saw the situation of Imperial rule as entirely untenable.

    • @EchthelionII
      @EchthelionII 5 років тому +6

      I want to know Thrawns reaction, we all know that he hated the Death Star.

    • @UncleMikeDrop
      @UncleMikeDrop 5 років тому +19

      @@EchthelionII He and Vader agreed that it was wasteful and tactically non-viable. Thrawn was a pragmatist. He likely would've considered the destruction of Alderan to be a waste of a perfectly good biosphere. He dislike needless destruction, cruelty, etc. The only reason he even supported the Empire in the 1st place must because he along with the higher UPS among his people thought it would be the most beneficial alliance at the time.

    • @EchthelionII
      @EchthelionII 5 років тому +5

      @@UncleMikeDrop Right, Thrawn is by far the best Star Wars character ever.

    • @UncleMikeDrop
      @UncleMikeDrop 5 років тому +7

      @@EchthelionII Yep. In a Galaxy of mustache twirling villains, short tempered warriors, and high minded space wizards, the pragmatist reigns supreme. That's what always annoyed me about the Jedi and the Sith. I've always wondered how people who can see into the future could possibly be so terrible at planning things out in advance.

    • @EchthelionII
      @EchthelionII 5 років тому

      @@UncleMikeDrop I wonder what would happen if Thrawn was a Jedi, Sith, or just force sensitive, in the main galaxy, the only change is he is now a force user.

  • @hriscubogdan2292
    @hriscubogdan2292 3 роки тому +17

    When Vader thinks you're insane.....

  • @Primex007
    @Primex007 5 років тому +112

    Could you imagine if there was an agent of the Emperor reporting this back to the Emperor after the destruction of Alderaan. Then calling Tarken back Imperial Center to discipline Tarken for giving the rebellion the rallying cry that they needed to gain more support

    • @absboodoo
      @absboodoo 5 років тому +4

      Primex007 sounds like Robot chicken material.

  • @MottCorsair
    @MottCorsair 5 років тому +83

    "There is just.......no way to spin this." -Auralnauts Vader.

    • @Cuban20
      @Cuban20 5 років тому +2

      LOLLOLLLOLOLO

    • @MrBiggles53
      @MrBiggles53 3 роки тому +1

      Have you considered a Life Day Parade?

  • @crazedvole
    @crazedvole 5 років тому +19

    I'm glad you put in the second story. I always liked the way Tarkin shut Vader down when Vader questioned destroying Alderaan. "Don't think to question *me* Lord Vader. You're not dealing with Tague or Monty." I thought it may have been lost after the Star Wars Radio Drama. With all the historical and biography re writes over the years

    • @shadowthehedgehog3113
      @shadowthehedgehog3113 5 років тому +3

      I am glad this part of legends is trash. I always got the vibe that Vader didn't like the Death Star or destroying planets-even if it is subtle. From both Ep 4 and Rogue One. Every step of the way, Vader mocked, or treated the idea of using a death star to blow up planets with hostility and derision. Heck this comic even contradicts Vader's comment towards Tarkin implying he did not agree with blowing up Alderaan. Stating he did not think it would be effective in getting the information out of Leia.

  • @Infernal460
    @Infernal460 5 років тому +87

    In the radio version of a new hope Vader challenges Tarkins decision.
    "It is one of core worlds"...
    "Be quiet Vader I have the authority. Your not dealing with Motti now".

  • @Dark_Tale_1985
    @Dark_Tale_1985 5 років тому +12

    If only Vader knew how big of an impact destroying Alderan would have in that moment. So many defected the Empire after this happened. A ton of public trust in the Empire was lost and were now seen as destroyers not protectors. I'm pretty sure I remember even Sidious was not happy about this either.

  • @Cynfulbrew82
    @Cynfulbrew82 5 років тому +51

    I don’t think Grand Admiral Thrawn would have made the same decision if he had been in charge of the Death Star. I’m talking about the true version of Thrawn before the mouse took over. He would have realized that such a move would have been unwise and that it would rile up the populace. Thrawn was far more subtle than Tarkin.

    • @TheAncardia
      @TheAncardia 5 років тому +6

      Thrawn would have kept it out of the public spotlight until he had need of it.

    • @Breeg2011
      @Breeg2011 5 років тому +4

      I doubt it. Thrawn would have used it as a political tool. However, I suspect that he would also have taken precautions against an attack. Occasional jumps to isolated systems, keeping the Death Star out of the public's eye for a while, then jumping back and so on so that only few would know where the Death Star would likely be at a certain time. Also, he would probably have played with the Death Star beam quite a bit to see how to use it effectively. Say, you want to take out a planet. Why blow it up? Why not shoot the ray in such a way that it only scratches the planet's shield? Would this suffice to knock out a planetary shield? And if it does, how would a rebellious planet with a knocked out shield react to the Death Star that is maybe even supported by a bunch of Star Destroyers?

    • @ZigZag-mw9ir
      @ZigZag-mw9ir 4 роки тому +6

      Jamie Brueske I don’t think Disney Thrawn would do it either. Tbh Legends Thrawn thought the Death Star was a waste of resources and not worth the cost.

    • @WatcherCCG
      @WatcherCCG 4 роки тому +6

      @@Breeg2011 The Death Star properly escorted by ISDs, VSDs to provide planetary surface-level threats, and maybe even an SSD or two just to prevent anyone from getting ideas, would have been the most terrifying thing the Empire could field. Throw in the Eclipse and it would've been perfect. Like a fleet used by most players in SW RTS games. Looking at you, Empire at War and Rebellion/Supremacy.

    • @d.dementedengineerc99isurf26
      @d.dementedengineerc99isurf26 4 роки тому +2

      @@ZigZag-mw9ir Vader agreed with him on that one.

  • @59rlmccormack
    @59rlmccormack 5 років тому +87

    Good one dude!
    Btw, how did Luke react to Palpatine cheating death?

    • @rfc1526
      @rfc1526 5 років тому +9

      With sheer terror probably lol

    • @Cuban20
      @Cuban20 5 років тому +1

      @@rfc1526 Fuck, I know I would.

    • @TheKyrix82
      @TheKyrix82 5 років тому +9

      As I recall, he damn near shit himself and then became his apprentice to avoid being killed

    • @marty7442
      @marty7442 5 років тому +2

      Interesting story arc there. Look up 'Operation Shadow Hand'. It actually justifies that seemingly broken and self-loathing Luke we see in SW:TLJ. That would be when Luke actually fell to the dark side under the reborn Palpatine, and Leia had to snap him out of it. The Battle of Onderon was very costly for the Rebels/New Republic, which also included the destruction of Byss. I had no idea this was a part of Legends until I watched Eckhart's Ladder's lastest work and did the research myself. If Op Shadow Hand is made into Canon, then that 'Luke' we saw in SW:TLJ is actually justified IMO. That much guilt is very hard to dismiss. If that is a spoiler, oops. I am merely guessing...

    • @TheKyrix82
      @TheKyrix82 5 років тому +3

      @@marty7442 I was referring to "Dark Empire", when Luke physically met the reborn Palpatine and fell to the dark side

  • @tylerleblanc520
    @tylerleblanc520 3 роки тому +6

    "Vader concluded that Tarkin was insane" 🤣

  • @jeffreyfrye1811
    @jeffreyfrye1811 3 роки тому +5

    Now, if it were Tatooine, Vaderwould have broken out the munchies and beer and cheer when all that sand got anihilated

  • @RenegadePaladin
    @RenegadePaladin 3 роки тому +7

    "Alderaan is one of the foremost of the Inner Systems! The Emperor should be consulted!"
    "Do not think to challenge me! You're not confronting Tagge or Motti now! The Emperor has placed me in charge of this affair with a free hand, and the decision in mine!"
    Vader and Tarkin, from the Star Wars radio drama.

  • @JanPeverell
    @JanPeverell 5 років тому +32

    Alderaan should have been Krennic's achievement.

    • @starwarsreadingclub
      @starwarsreadingclub  5 років тому +8

      They stood there amidst Krennic's achievement! I've gone through the scenario of "What If" Krennic survived the Battle of Scarif. I doubt I could do a coherent video on it, but imagining Krennic in Episode 4 is always fun lol. Thank you for watching buddy, hope you enjoyed the video.

    • @EchthelionII
      @EchthelionII 5 років тому +2

      What about Poggle the Lesser?

    • @b.lloydreese2030
      @b.lloydreese2030 5 років тому +1

      Krennic isn't canon

    • @tweso1499
      @tweso1499 5 років тому +2

      B. Lloyd Reese Correction, Krennic *IS* canon, like it or not...

    • @sentinel-wraith9060
      @sentinel-wraith9060 5 років тому +3

      Krennic probably would have done a tactical strike and not nuked the Planet.

  • @chrismc410
    @chrismc410 3 роки тому +3

    Palpatine probably used his extensive vocabulary of Nubian cuss words about the aftermath of Alderaan. Vader winced hearing it as he only heard that much Nubian profanity once in his life. Some senator pissed Padme off something firece and he heard the most unladylike, deplorable language in his life. It was so rude even 3PO didn't want to translate it.
    He thought his own mother cussing in Huttese when she was angry was bad.

  • @RyanTheDark
    @RyanTheDark 5 років тому +20

    "I just have to stay here and watch all of this."

  • @dezzlok
    @dezzlok 5 років тому +13

    "When a pesky planet gets in the way I use Planet-B--gone also know as the Death Star." - Tarkin.

  • @astrobot4017
    @astrobot4017 5 років тому +17

    "Don't worry, we will deal with your rebel friends soon enough!"

    • @davidwillard7334
      @davidwillard7334 3 роки тому

      COMMENCE !!! PRIMARY !! IGNITION !!! BEEP !! BEEP !!! BEEP !!!!! ...........................!!¡!!!!!!!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @DarkKnight52365
    @DarkKnight52365 5 років тому +15

    what do you think of the fan film "the battle of the dreadnoughts"

    • @starwarsreadingclub
      @starwarsreadingclub  5 років тому +7

      With all of the Celebration preparations, I still haven't been able to sit down and watch what I know is going to be some great stuff from Eckharts Ladder. I will definitely have to watch it soon though. What did you think of the fan film KZ?

    • @DarkKnight52365
      @DarkKnight52365 5 років тому +1

      @@starwarsreadingclub i honestly was impressed at how good the quality of it really is

    • @EchthelionII
      @EchthelionII 5 років тому

      I saw it and immediately asked if and when he will make more.

  • @shadowthehedgehog3113
    @shadowthehedgehog3113 5 років тому +4

    I am glad this part of legends is trash. I always got the vibe that Vader didn't like the Death Star or destroying planets-even if it is subtle. From both Ep 4 and Rogue One. Every step of the way, Vader mocked, or treated the idea of using a death star to blow up planets with hostility and derision. Heck this comic even contradicts Vader's comment towards Tarkin implying he did not agree with blowing up Alderaan. Stating he did not think it would be effective in getting the information out of Leia.

  • @sithlord1906
    @sithlord1906 5 років тому +13

    This is a great video. It gets to Tarkin's relationship with Vader and the Emperor.

    • @shadowthehedgehog3113
      @shadowthehedgehog3113 5 років тому +1

      I am glad this part of legends is trash. I always got the vibe that Vader didn't like the Death Star or destroying planets-even if it is subtle. From both Ep 4 and Rogue One. Every step of the way, Vader mocked, or treated the idea of using a death star to blow up planets with hostility and derision. Heck this comic even contradicts Vader's comment towards Tarkin implying he did not agree with blowing up Alderaan. Stating he did not think it would be effective in getting the information out of Leia.

  • @angelotena7777
    @angelotena7777 5 років тому +5

    I wonder what I’ll learn in this video exposeè.

  • @3haljordan
    @3haljordan 5 років тому +6

    I have a whole new outlook on Grand Moff Tarkin, I mean when Vader thinks you're insane, that's really saying something.

  • @dragondude9637
    @dragondude9637 3 роки тому +3

    Vader : ("ah well, no more lovely sunsets, rides on giant bird/dragon creatures and relaxing by the crystal clear lakes drinking tasty Alderaan wine.")

  • @wolfmantheimpaler
    @wolfmantheimpaler 3 роки тому +3

    Tarkin: *blows up Alderan*
    Palpatine: YOU DID WHAT?!
    Vader: You crazy son of a bitch, I like it!

  • @geoxev9423
    @geoxev9423 5 років тому +14

    Vader was so surprised he was the first person in the Star Wars universe to say "NANI".

    • @christenorio9555
      @christenorio9555 5 років тому

      What if vader aka anakin modifications of the death star to use the kyber crystals to it's full capabilities like an Giant lightsaber?

  • @willieleefrancis8091
    @willieleefrancis8091 5 років тому +4

    Tarkin told DV about himself, by letting him know that he was indeed in charge of whatever action he deemed necessary for the Death Star's operations!!! He did not punk out Wilhuff Tarkin at all!!!

  • @mroscar7
    @mroscar7 5 років тому +4

    You are the best UA-camr, I love your videos and they are so interesting and fun to watch. By watching your videos I learn something everyday about Star Wars. Because I like Star Wars too. Also your videos are so inspiring and it made me like Star Wars more! I even watched Return of the Jedi last week! Keep up the good work. 👍👍👍👍😃😁

  • @landfair123
    @landfair123 5 років тому +5

    I have a good question. What would Vader have done if it was Naboo that was to be destroyed?

    • @GBRyker61
      @GBRyker61 5 років тому +11

      That is a very good question. Since Padme was layed to rest there I would imagine Vader would have gone ballistic on Tarkin.

  • @summer20105707
    @summer20105707 5 років тому +4

    Just imagine if Tarkin had force capabilities. He would have been worse than Sidious.

  • @peterchiappetta1241
    @peterchiappetta1241 4 роки тому +3

    It sounds like Vader disagreed with the decision to destroy Alderaan but was not allowed to have any say or opinion of the matter. So the remainder of the time, he kept his opinion to himself after Tarkin's outburst. Imagine Leia's reaction if she ever learns this.

  • @BlazeMaster
    @BlazeMaster 3 роки тому +3

    I actually thought Vader was sort of schocked in this scene along with Leila and you could notice that both suffered from some form of PSD at that precise moment with a mixture of schock and complete disbelief not being able to even stand still, with Vader seeing the weapons power as over kill, while Leia being traumatized by the destruction of her entire planet, neither of them thought Tarkin would actually go that far and Vader merely thought he was just going to blow up a nearby moon or asteroid to make her think they'd actually do it to make her panic,I think from Vader's perspective it was actually a pretty sensless act. I think the mere senseless and cruelty of this act was even beyond what he himself would do, and I believe that the schock for Leila was so bad Vader actually as an act of mercy used medication to calm her down , which ironically might had been the reason why she was able to lead the attack on that very station merely days after, being one of the driving forces behind the rebel alliance victory, but I do wonder did the whole situation leave a dark shadow on her, requiring her to constantly take stress reducing drugs to help her cope with what would be one of the worst trauma's and PSD's in the entire galaxy ,which could also somewhat explain why in the end Leila made terrible decisions in her private life, leading to her son's fall towards the dark side. I mean there's probably no other character in Star Wars universe that doomed entire planets merely through association, and the guilt and trauma associated with this, must had some more serious consequences than what we're being shown in the movie and I wish they actually explored this. As far as Vader or Anakin is concerned I don't think it traumatized him as badly, but he was well aware of the fact that in the end this senseless muscle flexing would only come back to bite the empire in the end, and mostly considered the act as reckless and indeed one that could be devised by a mad man with an inferiority complex, especially since it also revealed the existence of the super weapon, negating it's strategic advantage in being hidden and deployed as a cruel surprise to the rebels at the last minute while also making it seem they had several of these at disposal ,and literally using them to wipe the board, somewhat wasting the weapons potential in fatally scaring for life a single rebel princess,I also think that Palpatine always planned for two Death stars to exist at the same time, making them appear as either a single weapon or multiple battle stations (since it would be impossible for the empire to build the new one in such a short time unless the building was actually started as the first one was being finished) this would mean that Palpatine might had planned for at least three death stars or two one commandeered jointly by Tarkin and Vader and the other for himself.

  • @darylsdesigns6679
    @darylsdesigns6679 5 років тому +9

    “You may fire when ready”

  • @Nintendoggy
    @Nintendoggy 3 роки тому +3

    "YOU HEARD HER, DESTROY DANTOOINE!"

  • @ricknick5318
    @ricknick5318 5 років тому +6

    I always thought tarkan and palpatine was lovers

  • @Antibrutaka
    @Antibrutaka 5 років тому +4

    What Palpatine really thought about this?

    • @Xo-3130
      @Xo-3130 5 років тому +5

      He was pissed.

  • @warriorsorb1111
    @warriorsorb1111 4 роки тому +1

    And yet people keep saying that Vader destroyed Alderaan. Vader never commanded the Death Star in the first place

  • @dimitrilensflareabrams2893
    @dimitrilensflareabrams2893 5 років тому +4

    That novel shouldve been called the Tragedy of Anakin Skywalker the Wise

  • @nat51543
    @nat51543 4 роки тому +2

    The emperor didn't want the destruction of the Alderan because it led to imperial defects many storm troopers were from alderan so palpatine disapproved tactically this is cannon and this led to the defects of imperial storm troopers to the resistance which gave them imperial training and tactics

  • @RunD.Ones1s
    @RunD.Ones1s 3 роки тому +1

    It sounded like you called tarkin grandma tarkin lol

  • @juniorsandoval9624
    @juniorsandoval9624 3 роки тому +1

    At least Leia got to lay down a few proper insults to Vader & Tarkin before her planet was blown

  • @autisticjoeyyo
    @autisticjoeyyo 3 роки тому +1

    What did Tarkin mean by “Dantoonjne is too remote”?

    • @RyanBlazeheart
      @RyanBlazeheart 2 роки тому

      They just flew to Alderaan. Dantooine was much further away and they wouldn't be able to get a good shot at the current distance.

  • @DarrelsWonderland
    @DarrelsWonderland 5 років тому +2

    Shall we commence firing?

  • @zioreturnsgaming
    @zioreturnsgaming 5 років тому +2

    No real comment just keep up the good work

  • @starpaladingoldbug2282
    @starpaladingoldbug2282 5 років тому +2

    i have a question what happened to Jedi droids after order 66?

  • @Gor85
    @Gor85 5 років тому +2

    Everything is clear. Ending justifies the means. Their view. Leia had Force powers too.

  • @The_Bad_Guy.
    @The_Bad_Guy. 4 місяці тому

    This is one of those legends stories where it's actually a good thing it no longer is canon. It's kind of an unrealistic story. If Vader thought for a second that Tarkin was doing this without the Emperors consent, he would have not allowed it to happen. No matter if Tarkin was in "command" or not. Nor would Vader allow Tarkin to talk down to him in any way.

  • @The-Ent1ty
    @The-Ent1ty 2 роки тому +1

    shorten version
    vader: "I don't think you should do that
    Tarkin: "I did I fucking stutter?"
    vader: "well damn, OK then."

  • @robertromero9488
    @robertromero9488 5 років тому +1

    This is what makes his redemption so stupid. He allows millions to be killed, he kills younglings but is forgiven for killing the emperor and saving his son. WTF?

  • @sebastiannorrington3792
    @sebastiannorrington3792 5 років тому +1

    In the rise and fall of darth vader if tarkin was mad he should be sent to Arkham and talk to doctor phil.

  • @papabell4831
    @papabell4831 5 років тому +4

    That's no moon....

    • @night-x6793
      @night-x6793 5 років тому

      It's a oversized bulldozer that can clear planets for more space roads.

    • @abbyalphonse499
      @abbyalphonse499 Рік тому

      @@night-x6793 *Vogon constructor fleet intensifies*

  • @jeffhallam2004
    @jeffhallam2004 5 років тому +2

    Tarkin was insane. As evil as Vader or Sideous.

  • @Clock_70
    @Clock_70 4 роки тому +1

    WOW....TARKINS INSANE!!!!!😂

  • @SpamMeGooglification
    @SpamMeGooglification 5 років тому +4

    Vader secretly realized that the force can't destroy a planet like the technological terror weapon can.

    • @TheBenjaman
      @TheBenjaman 5 років тому

      Well I reckon if you concentrate hard and long enough you could blow up a planet with the force.

    • @Xo-3130
      @Xo-3130 5 років тому

      Considering that there is extremely powerful force rituals that can rip the core of a sun out and blow it up... yeah Vader was correct.

    • @SpamMeGooglification
      @SpamMeGooglification 5 років тому

      @@Xo-3130 Then why risk the massive capital and personnel outlay on the Death Star, when you only needed one Sith?

    • @Xo-3130
      @Xo-3130 5 років тому

      @@SpamMeGooglification
      Because A) The Emperor didn't want to bother with using force storms all the time B) It requires a lot of contraction and causes great strain to preform stellar level force abilities.

  • @CiabanItReal
    @CiabanItReal 5 років тому +1

    I left a like for *Diabolical Inventiveness*

  • @orboakin8074
    @orboakin8074 2 роки тому +1

    I just started reading the novelization of the of trilogy and just finished "A new hope". Loved it! The fact a millennial like me can still enjoy it enough to read the books despite rewatching the movies shows how great it is. This story never gets old and George really created something special that will endure, despite disney's best attempts to ruin it.

  • @isaiasvalladares4210
    @isaiasvalladares4210 5 років тому +1

    I’d like to know what the rebel alliance thought of Alderaan’s destruction, specifically Mon mothma and high command.

  • @tuxedotservo
    @tuxedotservo 4 роки тому +1

    A contradiction between Legends sources? Say it isn't so!

    • @delta2372
      @delta2372 4 роки тому

      Ok we get it you hate the EU

    • @tuxedotservo
      @tuxedotservo 4 роки тому

      @@delta2372 - pretty definitely conclusion to make on one sentence. Pointing out that there are contradictions != "hate" ... are you denying that there aren't contradictions within the EU?

    • @delta2372
      @delta2372 4 роки тому

      @@tuxedotservo there are but I've often looked past them If I enjoy the stories

  • @csmith3248
    @csmith3248 8 місяців тому

    Well if Darth Vader thinks your insane than there’s definitely something wrong with you

  • @beatricesanfilippo6925
    @beatricesanfilippo6925 Рік тому

    Is that because Anakin saw It in a vision when he was Mortis. But Ezra and Ahsoka weren't there in this movie because Ezra was fighting against Thrawn freeing Lothal thanks to the Purgills while Ahsoka Is still hidden on Malachor with Morai for three years. This movie Is set during Rebels season Four finale!

  • @ryansanico6539
    @ryansanico6539 5 років тому +1

    Grand off Tarkin was nuts in his mind he have to many power charge in his head, he is crazy power 😍

  • @MarkHardKnox
    @MarkHardKnox 5 років тому +1

    I wonder if Grand Mov Tarkin was ever aware or suspicious that Emperor Palpatine was responsible for his son's death.

  • @HerbstaMagus
    @HerbstaMagus 3 роки тому

    Legends was so cool... the Disney canon is garbo. I don't even mind the sequel trilogy movies that much but killing the entire old EU was a crap move.

  • @luigiionascu7056
    @luigiionascu7056 4 роки тому

    _secret service of star wars _the great admirall of imperial fleet and generall and comandant of death star count moof tarkin not dead in explozion of star death and he escape survivor in the lost moment time with a one hunter patrol imperial on great speed fast and he arrive on a away far away base of imperial fleet and there he becum with need force power spy inspector unknown in the build up construct of imperial machine ellectromagnetyc generator and motor on great power energy because he was and is diplom engeener in the energetyc systems of great power _he not never return at fight and him location and located base is unknown because the this is him secret wish _secret service of star wars _lex electromagnetyc force is rotE=_dB/dt+ +rot(v*B) and rotH=J+dD/dt and HrotE--ErotH=div(H*E) and H=NI/l _arch lord

  • @lamhotsimamora9189
    @lamhotsimamora9189 5 років тому +1

    It should be tatoinee that planet have nothing to be given well except for jabba

  • @dreammirrorbrony1240
    @dreammirrorbrony1240 5 років тому +2

    Even from a viewpoint of the Empire, this is a massive waste of resources at the very least.

    • @charlottewolery558
      @charlottewolery558 3 роки тому

      In rebellion the death star is great as long as you never use it to blow up planets. The fact you CAN scares the fact out of the locals, you can batter any planet's defenses with the turbo lasers, leave huge garrisons, and one shot rebel fleets one ship at a time.
      Death Star as subjugator probably isn't most resource efficient but Jesus Christ it cuts through resistance like a lightsaber through flesh

    • @ntfoperative9432
      @ntfoperative9432 2 роки тому +1

      @@charlottewolery558 honestly, they'd just need to blow up an uninhabited planet the same size as Alderaan to show it's power. Then it's not gonna look like a bluff, but an actual threat

    • @charlottewolery558
      @charlottewolery558 2 роки тому

      @@ntfoperative9432 I'm against blowing up planets on principle but one shotting the best plantet shields in the galaxy on some particularly troublesome world, on live holo feed and then systematically battering every military installation with turbolasers on all channels 24 hours start to finish is a softer version of the Tarkin Doctrine but gives the same impression but on legitimate targets.
      But and this is key, no genocide and little collateral damage. On a galactic scale, it's not hard to be relatively surgical if you give a shit.

  • @ironcityblue
    @ironcityblue 5 років тому +1

    Anakin was a scumbag bully and a weak scrub totally dominated by Obi Wan in life and beyond lol

    • @shadowthehedgehog3113
      @shadowthehedgehog3113 5 років тому

      I am glad this part of legends is trash. I always got the vibe that Vader didn't like the Death Star or destroying planets-even if it is subtle. From both Ep 4 and Rogue One. Every step of the way, Vader mocked, or treated the idea of using a death star to blow up planets with hostility and derision. Heck this comic even contradicts Vader's comment towards Tarkin implying he did not agree with blowing up Alderaan. Stating he did not think it would be effective in getting the information out of Leia.

  • @Joshua0810
    @Joshua0810 Рік тому

    You made a little mistake. You said that Alderaan was an Inner Rim planet, but it was actually located in the Core Worlds.

  • @Trotgirlsummer
    @Trotgirlsummer 5 місяців тому

    Blowing up a planet or mouthing off to Vader: which one is more insane?

  • @davidwillard7334
    @davidwillard7334 3 роки тому

    TARKIN ! Asked Liea ! For A ! MILLITARY !!! TARGET !!

  • @douglasnichols6116
    @douglasnichols6116 9 місяців тому

    Tarkin was a rouge. Palpating be like (he did what)

  • @MegaMat666
    @MegaMat666 3 роки тому

    Palpatine and Motti after the defeat the rebellion in Yavin, the futur plan is destroy the emperor and vader with the death star and control to the empire

  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 3 роки тому

    Leia ended up being right more star systems slipped through the empires fingers.

  • @HalloranIllustrations
    @HalloranIllustrations 5 років тому +1

    The second reaction of Vader was also in the radio drama.

  • @ahcokris
    @ahcokris 3 роки тому

    so vader was, like Leia said, tarkin's lap dog...

  • @nova_sparkle-f5l
    @nova_sparkle-f5l 5 років тому +1

    I'm pretty sure alderaan is in the core

  • @plakeplays6420
    @plakeplays6420 3 роки тому

    imagine if they blew up Tatooine

  • @serpent4s
    @serpent4s 3 роки тому

    A bit harsh to deal with the killik problem this way

  • @sagittaire_98
    @sagittaire_98 2 роки тому

    Inner rim? Alderaan was a Core world 😅

  • @studinthemaking
    @studinthemaking 5 років тому

    Darth Vader think Tarkin is insane.

  • @klaudiagrob
    @klaudiagrob 2 роки тому

    Vader didn't care.

  • @LCTesla
    @LCTesla 5 років тому +1

    "BRUTAL"

  • @Knightfaller
    @Knightfaller 3 роки тому

    So basically Tarkin has to flex his power to Vader for him to respect him. Vader can respect that!

  • @gabrieldjatienza6971
    @gabrieldjatienza6971 4 роки тому

    Vader can be wrongly credited with destroying Alderaan....but he merely allowed Tarkin to do so.

  • @princessirulancorrino4695
    @princessirulancorrino4695 3 роки тому

    Am I the only one who is thinking about Thrawn? He thought that the Death Star was a terrible project. And, indeed it was...

  • @CarlosAM1
    @CarlosAM1 3 роки тому

    "That's a poggers moment right there" -Vader... probably?

  • @SchardtCinematic
    @SchardtCinematic 3 роки тому

    Since Rouge One we can see just what one generator could do. The Death Star could just destroy a planets surface probably with 2 generators alone. That alone would kill all life on it and leave it a dead hisk of a ball of dirt with a big crater in it. I'd like to see Mando go to Jeda to see what it looks like after what one generator could do.