I'm sending back the electric tractor here's why
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- I'm sending back the electric tractor here's why
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Nobody's forcing battery electric ? Yeah right, you haven't been paying attention.
you are 100% right....I don't watch the hyped up news media junk that's on TV....the hype is for ratings, not for reality and the politics is for votes, not for the people. I'm probably just like alot of Americans...I just want to be safe, earn a good living and be left alone. I don't base my purchase decisions on what Joe or Donald think...or any person that doesn't know how to wash their own socks!! But that's just me my brother
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer We can agree on that.
This tractor seems like all they did was swap the engine for an electric motor and the fuel tank for a battery. I know it is more than that, but seems that way.
@@frankwrogg2515 Could be, but for me it's not that it's how there pushing this stuff without wanting to give us a choice. I'm not fond of all the electronics on everything these days, it's to failure prone and to much software control. The old stuff you could just figure it out. You won't see tractors that are being built now 80 to 100 years old that still work. They don't want that, there is no control in that. Just like the Ford F150 that it cost over 5000 bucks to repair because of water in a tail light.
@StoneyRidgeFarmer You need to pay attention... This Administration is trying to put you out of business.... its all about control....
Plus your cows fart too much 😂😂😂😂
Grew up on a 10-acre homestead with only an old 8N and later a Farmall M. Even during hay season I never put more than 3-4 hours a day on a tractor, these would be perfect for that type of farm.
Now I just inherited a 250-acre farm that's all south-facing side-hill. Solar and wind power galore. Looking at 75hp TYMs and LSs, but wondering if a tractor like this wouldn't be nice to have. The older I get, the less I want to sit on a tractor seat for 4+ hours on any given day.
That's really smart charging this off the grid.. the ultimate independence..
A few years down the road when the batteries wear out many people are gonna start to hear "sorry that battey is no longer available"
never off market will always be available
It's 12v. Not exactly hard to source
@@harryperrier7223
If that were true then Tesla owners wouldn't be so upset. It's not just the power output, it's the size and shape of the battery. OEM suppliers might fill the need, but it'll have to be financially viable for the farmer and the suppliers. It also rather dents the claimed environmental benefits as recycling batteries requires energy and other materials for the casing and similar things.
Seems more sensible to stick with fossil fuels until we have safe and effective hydrogen fuelled systems. The hydrogen being made from sustainable power such as nuclear energy.
@@laughingachilles you can legit remake your own batteries and just order the specific cells. look up how to redo battery on a prius. lots of videos. its the same thing. same with any consumable rechargeable battery. theres only cells made in so many sizes. then the mfg just puts those in the special case
@@Paul.atherton
That will still be expensive. It'd be a lot cheaper to just buy a diesel tractor.
Bought one last year for our small 3 acre place and it's great - perfect size for the almond orchard and olive orchard, would be great for anyone wanting their independence from the grid.
Awesome for cleaning barns or stalls, no fumes in the building and low noise.
Josh, thanks for showcasing new tech on the farm. The Selectrac i think proved to be effective at what it was designed for, and what it needs improvement in. Hopefully they heed your suggestions.
I would like to have one to add to my other tractors. A big benefit to the electric tractor for me would be in the summer, I wouldn't worry about an engine spark starting a fire. In the winter I'd worry about cold weather battery life with a snow plow. Everything has benefits and drawbacks.
i had a 1947 John Deere model 50 tractor that didn't have live PTO, meaning the PTO like that blue tractor would not turn if the tractor wasn't moving, and similarly, an implement like a mower has inertia that will keep the tractor moving forward after you disengage the clutch for a few feet. However, you could put it in neutral and then engage the clutch if you needed to sit still like for a post hole auger.
My 1959 John Deere model 730 does have live PTO, meaning it has a separate clutch pedal to activate the PTO so can engage or disengage whether moving or not.
Josh, I am glad you are open to new ideas. How can an electric anything be political? Beats me! When the ICE came around and replaced horses there was a huge outcry from the horse people. Some folks just hate change!! Nice video, Thanks for your constructive comments. Cheers!
I'm guessing the battery life will become an issue eventually. I can fix my diesel. I can "fix" a battery that is done. PTO shutting off is another "big brother" design to keep us all safe. Obviously not designed by a farmer. I back up with my bush hog constantly for good reason. All that said, tells me they are really new to the tractor engineering.
Modern batteries are good for 10 years or more and they are getting less expensive every year. The PTO is just an easily resolvable electrical issue. The larger electric tractors have a separate electric pump for the PTO.
That little tractor is actually how i found your channel, sad to see it go but understand the why. It is a cool little machine and like you said in other videos its a tool no different that Dewalt or Milwaukee. Keep it charged and it's always ready to go.
Appreciate the even-handed approach, Josh.
thanks buddy!
You buy the tractor (or any equipment) that meets your need. It's always great to test (even by renting) new equipment on your farm before you buy. It's always best fit, not cheapest, not newest, not most popular. Everybody's needs are different.
I agree totally!
That would be a cool concept for a situation like yours, a 6 HP engine generator, as a range extender, and a solar panel shed to park it under. Use a 48v100ah battery to store some of the energy, to charge the tractor with. And a diverter to send the power to the house or shop while the tractor is out or charged,
I have been thinking about building something similar, smaller, maybe a articulating machine I have forklift motors. I was thinking use a car fwd manual transmission
Maybe two. With a jackshaft between them with a 2:1 to 4:1 reduction, allowing 5-6 forward speeds. A couple diffs with with the same transmission , modified to lock the axles using it as a transfer case, the axles going to the input of the diffs. Using a cv joint connecting the articulated section, use a simple electric power steering to push hydraulic steering cylinders, with about 10:1 reduction in 3-4 gear and about 18:1 in first with 33x 12.5 tires on 15" rims.Baja tread not a rough mud tread, maybe change my mind on that. Build the frame from 4" channel. And 4" and 2" tubing, possibly put the seat on the very back like the old tractors ! Haha, maybe a motorcycle style seat, from like the 30's with suspension! There is all kinds of options. If I did build it
Use one motor to drive it, one for the PTO. . And also a solar shed with about 12-20 ,24 300w panels, +/-. With a battery, maybe a forklift battery to charge from. Unless I can get about 1000ah of lithium at 24-48v for a 4kw plus 240v inverter!
What does it cost to replace the battery and how long does the battery last?
Yes, Josh, the tractor should cut grass in reverse. Love yall from North Carolina.
I likely won't ever have an electric vehicle of any kind until battery tech improves more significantly. Current tech is too bulky, takes forever to charge compared to fuel, is too prone to failure, and is terrible for the environment. But i like the idea, and enjoy seeing things like this.
well....for a tractor we want the weight...but I tend to agree..technology needs to improve
It may be okay for a small garden of half an acre. But I think graphene ultra capacitors are the future of energy storage. 85 watts per kilogram to 120 watts per kilogram. Not bad but still short of lithium ion. But are much safer and lighter.
I am actively looking for one of these . I have tons of solar here in East Tennessee and I live 50 minutes from the nearest diesel station.
well...with a price tag 20k more expensive than a comparable diesel...I think you might change your mind
That tractor would be a perfect little garden tractor I’m not sure you would want to take it out and plow 50 acres but for small areas just a jump on and go tractor I could see it being very handy
Very small.
Seems like it is a legitimate alternative in the subcompact segment. The way you charged it off grid is nice, especially for those that choose that lifestyle. Like you said, depending on your needs there are going to be positive and negative aspects. I think the biggest negative right now is just the up front costs and then the added cost if you add the solar charging.
My favorite thing about battery powered equipment is the lack of noise
In fairness the solar power can do more than charge the tractor, if you set up your home and farm to use it and are able to feed surplus to the grid you can get a sub 10 year payback on your system.
What kind of base price are we looking at. Does it come with cord to charge not an add on. What is the life expectation of the battery????
thanks for the good summary of this tractor's performance. It was cool to see you using it in your other videos.
This one would be the best friend of my solar panels I can think of 🎉
Our TYM 474CH is suiting us very well over here in Walnut Cove. Plenty of power and comfort. 30000 dollars is a good chunk of change for your electric tractor
What dealer did you buy your tym from? I’m in the same area and been looking around at new tractors
@@lawsonlawnandfarm8073Smiths Enterprise in Salemburg
Cost is a fair criticism, though worth pointing out reduced energy and maintenance costs combined with longer life expectancy offsets alot if you can afford the upfront cost.
The old fords have a ratchet mechanism to prevent the pto pushing the tractor. Believe it would work on a standard pto.
Like all tools, this Solectrac has its uses and limitations. The Monarch electric tractor is pricy but seems to be a better fit (70 HP peak). The real killer app for electric tractors is robotic automation to accomplish routine labor intensive chores like mowing or spraying without a human operator.
Love the concept and would be happy to take a 50hp electric tractor. Still a little expensive. But would love it for my application (50acre homestead) and use of about 4-500 hrs per year.
You might pay more up-front, but you eliminate all the diesel maintenance costs, so you come out ahead after a few years, electric motors need no maintenance, think how long refrigerators last (which are just an electric motor and tubing).
I wouldn't park it in my barn until they fix the battery issues. As far as not forcing battery power on people, you need to talk to the landscapers in California.
I don't know of any battery issues with this tractor my friend...havn't heard of any.....now...that being said....better safe than sorry in all cases right
My biggest question is how long is the life of the battery and how much are they? Second would be the weight difference? Am looking at the new Kubota L2502 HST and the changes they made.
weight is a little more with battery, the lifespan is supposed to be about 5-7 years. Replacement is around $4k so I'm told
Interesting 4K get a new battery or 4K in fuel and oil and possible repairs once the 2 yr warranty goes out on a diesel tractor. Truly I’m not into the EV’s however on a golf cart or tractor or even a boom lift or scissor lift it’s practical and could make sense for a sub or smaller sub tractor. Thanks for the shared insight and info on this tractor.
What is the battery's life span? What is the replacement cost for the battery? Are there storage requirements for the battery? -40 F degrees to 120 degrees F. Does the battery replacement require a trained service technician and hoist to replace? Are there many authorized retailers that actually are trained to repair the tractor or are they just salesman? I can imagine that replacement parts are primarily a 2-4 week boat ride to the west coast and then another 2 weeks to the servicing group.
$4k to replace I'm told, lifespan is 5-7 years I'm told and heck yeah the battery is heavy and requires a hoist to get it in and out
Getting rid of elec tractor will SAVE THE SUN 😃
lol 😂
Are you going to those people that think Solar Panels are going to burn the sun out.
If I got new, I’d go diesel or diesel-electric like Edison Motors is going with big rigs. As it is, I’m good with my Farmall 756.
What you said about the mower blade momentum pushing the tractor sounds like you were using the ground speed position of the pto and not the independent pto position, and if the tractor doesn't have independent pto, that would be a huge design flaw!
yep...there is no ground/independent the tractor PTO only runs if it's moving or the drive gears are turning...I agree a design flaw that was common back in the 1950s
It would be a good tractor for a small off grid farm. If there is no need to get things done quickly.
Stoney, you said yjat you lost 80lbs??? Well have you tried looking behind Ya 🤣😂😃 I'm 6'4" and dropped down from 268lbs to now a confortable 212;bls... and my back and joints are loving it!
If I was off grid and lived way back in the sticks, I think this tractor would be really nice addition for a 5, 10, even 15 acres. Having the battery gen was a great addition, but I don't remember if you ever said or not if the power bank would charge it dead or nearly dead, back to 100% on a single charge without any solar input?? But I think the killer for me would be the brush hog blades not turning when backing or sitting still. Trying to really clean up around a property and having to deal with that, well, it would just suck IMO. But, it sure has it's positive points too!
Thanks for sharing all about this thing and telling us the good and the bad.
That tractor would be a great starter tractor for a solar/wind off grid property. Also could replace stand by fuel generators using battery banks.
what is the price point comparison? Who much did it cost to run, electric cost?
Question. Can you get a different tire pattern? More aggressive. Thanks for sharing it.
I think it was a great first attempt. The real issue is the pto on this machine
My tractor (shibaura) hat that issue of didn't stop until the pto stop, the dealer fix that replacing the pto connection on bush cutter ask for that on yours.
How much is the replacement battery and can you do it at home that's the big question
No Live PTO? That would be a deal breaker. Just like my 8N! But I agree, electric has a niche, and this is obviously one. Hope they get the PTO fixed...
I think they have a version with a hydrostatic trans that solves some of the issues you had with it.
How’d the loader hold up moving those round bales around? And the bush hog? Could you tell much difference between the electric tractor versus an engine driven of the same size?
Edison motors has the right early approach that splits with diesel generation
So the tractor would be no good for snow if you have a blower on the back of I understand right and you can't stop to put out a round bale is that right
PTO won't run in reverse which is the only thing I don't like about this critter
So does it run when sitting still
It might be good for someone with a large garden, to maybe mow the lawns, or cut the hedges, or carry some firewood up the drive on a trailer. Does it have a Pick-Up Hitch.. ? I am thinking it would need it's own specialist equipments, which would be costly. I can't see it ever being used with a flail hedge-cutter..!
Some parts of the country for yard tractor would be great, but like all electric vehicles, if you don't live in the dominately sunshine states is out of luck. I'm all for anything that that will save the environment. But we can't do what isn't proven. Even California with all its sun can't produce enough electricity without electric vehicles. Great video and explaination
It's actually a perfect smal farm or hobby tractor
exactly!
Im very surprised that the top isnt a high capacity solar charger. Also, isnt it extremely quiet? Bet the neighbors in a 10 acre small farm type setting would love it. Also free fuel with the set up you obtained. Super cool job. Now to what i wanted to say... Dang bro... Showing off that gray good job I'm like 12 years older and I want to tell you I've been with you for a very long time not everyday but since about 30,000 subs and you are doing so awesome and I'm very proud of you and your success that you are having and I think you're highly intelligent diligent caring and I know there's no periods in here because I'm talk texting....lol. Anyhow, great job Josh....you the man bro. Warsaw Ric
The amount of power you get from a single panel isn't that much, you'd have to park it for days to bring it up to full, just simpler and easier to plug in.
Josh thanks for the nice recap on the electric tractor, if you would could you do a video on your solar setup for pumping? I don't know do you have some kind of an app that tells you what your produce and what you use on the electronics of your solar? I'm wondering since the question is going around that when you take the cost of solar and batteries if you have that and you compare it to the paying for electricity your time ahead and money ahead to just pay for electricity . I understand that you may not have that for yourself and I also understand that you need the reliability of producing your own power out there and not having to run a power line out there. Just thought you might know the answer though to that other question on return on investment of solar.
Josh, an overrunning clutch that's available at any farm store would fix the PTO pushing thing. What was the price of this tractor?
FYI - Case IH just released their first electric tractor under the Farmall name, the first new Farmall in decades. Its a 75hp enclosed cab utility tractor.
Sounds similar in capability to my 9N but 9Ns sell for 800 dollars and are in plentiful supply
Perfect chore tractor (maybe needs to be bigger). Probably the best use case is someone that uses a tractor every day for 2-4 hours (like a dairy farm).
There are external devices that keep the momentum of the pto from pushing the tractor along.
just a switch on the dash that goes to neutral and a PTO on off switch
There have been battery/electric vehicles for 200 years. They have their place such as inside a building or manufacturing plant. But outside, not so much.
I won't doubt Electric Tractors are a great concept, but they're not efficient enough for what they need to be yet, and this model specifically (as you pointed out) has a few bugs to be worked out. It's not designed for larger rural lands with mud or uneven terrain, but it would make a great tractor for more environmentally restricted areas (such as the outskirts of California or New York) where land is typically smaller.
Thank you souch for showing the tractor Josh, I do think in the future if they allow use of revers now or still use, I would buy one for my property, I clear a lot of land and don't use too many heavy implements, so something like that would be a perfect tractor for me, I wouldnt have got to see it in action with out you bud!
Case and New Holland make 75hp equivalent tractors .check them out at next month's farm machinery show in Louisville.
There are so many tasks that I have with my tractor that are going to take at least 10
So the only positive was not having to change the oil? What's the price of tractor, battery replacement, and electricity? I'm curious to know what the total price is for a lawnmower and 4 hours of work is.
I guess the best way to answer your questions is to start with the most silly one. It's not a lawnmower, second question: You can go to their website and look up pricing if you'd like, they are more expensive than a diesel model, battery has 5 year prorated warranty and I charge it via solar so I've never spent a dime running the machine. It's just an electric tool, no different than an electric forklift at home depot my friend. I'm showing ya some new technology....and I think it's normal to be skeptical of something new....skepticism and intrigue are very different from sarcasm and insult though....I hope you're intrigued and interested. More of these electric machines are coming my friend...in all major brands
It’s -11 this morning I bet that tractor has a better chance of starting than my diesel
it's interesting to hear that it was on loan. my biggest problem is that 2 of my fields might as well be a swamp when we get tons of rain so that's not a risk I'm willing to take...
Great video Josh
Great for small acerage. Short driveway maintenance and snow. Heck it would do my mile 90% of the time. 90% of what i do it would be fine... not it wont mow my place in one day. And it wont open the driveway after a blizzard. But would do most of the rest well as to cost ill stick to my 40 and 60 year old machines.
why wouldn't it plow the driveway in a blizzard with a snow plow attachment? It honestly did very good
@StoneyRidgeFarmer
Its taken 12 hours with a 65 horse machine before. Ive seen 6 foot deep 100 foot long drifts you can drive on across my lane. Itll bring a grader too its knees. Snowblower does well but that pto not working in reverse would kill that too.
Not sure I like the electric port on top like that. I know it has a cover but it looks plastic and could it break/crack over time and allow water to accumulate. Regarding battery powered equipment /tools. A lot of people were leery of the battery power tools at first (drills, saws, nail guns). Now battery power tools are the way to go. Chainsaws are next - they are right for a lot of people who have simple requirements. They will only get better with time. Hopefully you will get a chance to try out other tractor manufacturers and we can watch them improve over time.
Tree service guys are already going electric. Apparently hanging from a tree and pressing a button is easier than starting a petrol chainsaw all the time. Plus they run quiet so they can hear each other which is good when you are yelling watch out!.
I have enjoyed watching you explain what the Solectrac is and what it is capable of doing.
Thanks buddy!! It was a fun little tractor
I wonder if they are sourcing some of their parts from TYM the axles and rear gear case looks like TYM the frame also looks like it’s a TYM
farmtrac is the source I do believe
Here in NY they have already passed legislation forcing electric cars, commercial vehicles, and small engines in the future.
Truthfully, I'm pre-biased against them because in NY it IS being forced.
In spite of my bias, good review.
I may have missed it, but was there any cold weather experience- id like to know the affect on run time when it's freezing or below.
Freedom huh...isn't that nice! Stand up and vote my friend....vote!
8 hrs to charge for 4 hrs of work. If it was the other way around, I might be interested
4 hours at max capacity.....a very long time just running around the farm moving materials. Simple...plug it in at night and use it in the morning....honestly it wasn't bad..if you're mowing longer than 4 hours...just plan for it....I wouldn't wanna ride this little machine much longer than 4 hours...most small tractors like this are "homesteader" machines that don't get many hours on them
It's like my Ford F-150 Lightning. Plug it in overnight and you have 300 miles again, except I pay about $12 for a "tank-full" as opposed to $100 for my 1996 Dodge RAM 3500. They tow and haul about the same capacity. Lots of torque in a 3-phase electric motor. Actually, two on the Lightning. My Lightning complements my other trucks, but doesn't replace them. I guess that's the point. There is a place for electric tools, like battery powered hand tools. Doesn't replace my table saw.
Good discussion. Good tractor. Dig it.
It's fine, for its purpose. It has its detriments. Just a note on hydrogen power- it doesn't like cold weather, either..
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Wow Josh I didn’t know u had such a big farm, 150 acres. That’s huge. Cows look grt
hOW MUCH MORE DOES IT COST TO MAKE BATEERIES AND HOW MUCH EMISSIONS IS EMITTED INTO THE AIR PRODUCING THEM
I don't build them.....I don't sell them and I don't know my friend. How much emissions are created to build an F150? I don't know my brother
Nice of you to show the tractor. I hav a question. Do u hav a link for the wood structure behind the tractor in this vid? Its very nice.
I believe he used Carolina barn builders
carolinabarnbuilders.com/
How much does it weigh? cost to buy one - can you get govt rebates on that? Thanks!
take a moment for a quick google search on solectrac tractors and you'll find all that info my brother....tons of info out there. It's an expensive investment for sure so be well informed
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer 1000 lbs more than my Yanmar and twice as much cost...sigh. Great review of it btw! That thing would be awesome indoors - horse arena.
I grew up on a small dairy farm in the central valley of California in the 70s, 80s and 90s. I drove small gas tractors and large diesel tractors (not huge) from the 40s, 50s and 60s. I currently have a couple small gas tractors (ferguson TO 30, TO 35, 1951 Farmall Cub) and a 165 Massey Ferguson diesel tractor on my little ranch (20 acres owned, 140 pasture leased). I drove a battery powered forklift for over 30 years. Judging from my experiences, I would never, ever own an electric vehicle of any type, tractor or car or truck. I retired July 1st, 2020 and the never electric lifts were not supposed to go outside in the rain.
In theory I would definitely use an electric tractor, it would not replace my larger diesel but there are a ton of times I start my larger tractor for 1hr or less, this electric tractor could replace alot of those tasks and run for a fraction of the cost.
How much did the batteries wear out, you could show the numbers, by doing the math.
Does it have auto level loader?
it doesn't....let me tell you....to be honest there's nothing more annoying than auto level on a tractor bucket..skid steer is great, tractor is just in the way in my opinion
Do you bail what you mow?
the short answer is no....the long answer is this: When you mow for hay, you need to mow with a sickle bar mower, haybine or disc mower. Mowing hay isn't accomplished with a brush cutter like you see here. Secondly....we have very very poor soil here, no top soil at all...so we do what is referred to as "green manure"....mowing pastures to feed the land. We bring in hay for our cows and that helps bring carbon to the soil, which grows topsoil. Remember, we don't use commercial petroleum based fertilizers and you can't take from the land (hay) without putting something back. So...the long answer is we're building our soil....buying our hay instead of paying the fertilizer man to sterilize our soils. This takes time, but it's the way we had to farm 200-300 years ago. Thinking of soil as a living thing. Hope this helps ya understand what we're doing here my brother
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Yup thanks
How about purchase price compared to conventional gas or diesel engine tractors?
I bought a M.F. 1723EB 2 1/2 years ago for 17,500. This tractor when I priced it with hoe was 37,500. It was a no brainer.
@@robertganther3695 But worth noting that you eliminate the cost of diesel and the cost and hassle of diesel maintenance - this tractor will be cheaper over 10 years because the operating costs are so much lower.
I as well am interested in the technology. But my concern as a northerner is most of the winter my power tools need the battery kept warm to function properly. I don’t know how this would work in the winter
it's a little slower in the cold, that's about all I can tell ya because we dont' get sub zero temps around here
Farmers are some of the most practical people on Earth. If electric tractors are shown to work as well as ICE tractors then farmers will use them. Governments trying to force the switch to electric farm equipment is demonstrative of their ignorance. Farmers need to run stuff all day, sometimes it can be a 16 hour day and big equipment takes a lot of energy. Batteries are just not energy dense enough to work in most farm vehicles. The only "green" solution would be hydrogen power, but then we have to look at where the hydrogen comes from and whether it's production involved fossil fuels.
in the case of this tractor, reasonably nobody is gonna run this little machine for 16 hours a day...it's more of a yard/homesteader machine used in the afternoon and weekends for mowing and small jobs around the house/farm. I fed the cows all winter long with it and only had to charge it a couple times...it truly was great
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer
Each tool has it's uses but I'm more concerned about the push to move farming to electric machines in general. It's worse in Europe but it'll move to the USA.
It's frustrating because farmers will use the most effective tool which has the lowest cost. They don't need pushing and prodding to do these things.
They should send me one here Northern Maine see how it handles 20 below and snow❤ I got to plug my tractor in anyway
Dunno about this machine, but with EVs, they typically pre-heat the battery while still connected to the grid, and then it'll last as long as it does on a nice summer day.
That's a good review of the electric tractor. Being battery powered, I'm wondering how it would do in the cold weather. Say, 20degrees Fahrenheit plowing snow.
Dunno about this machine, but for EV cars, they typically warm the battery while still plugged in, and then you have the full range even in -20° temps.
Good morning Josh, thank you for showcasing new technology! I personally think it’s a cool piece of equipment and I like how quiet it is.
I hope you have a great rest of your weekend.
Diesel forklifts, gas forklifts, electric forklifts - each has its place. I see no reason why tractors should be any different. If you have your own 'fuel' source and not give your money to an oil or gas company, all the more power (money) to you.
to show just how far the US is behind Europe in electric tractors:
The French Make a # of them up to 177 HP.
The little ones the French make dont have what the larger ones do. That is an eastly removable battery case. This is for any tractor over 50HP they make. The advise U to buy at least 2 other battery cases so that u can have them charging while u keep working. It takes less then 10 min to change out the battery cases. The reason for this is that it take about 2 hr to recharge a battery case and it least about 1-/1/2 hr at 21 RPM.
I am thinking about buying 2 of the 177Hp to replace my 40 yr old diesels. If I do I will buy 4 extra battery cases with each so as to make it so that i can do hay 24hr if I have to. I am a hay and beef farmer with some chickens in there to the hell of it (about500). I do about 500 acres of hay a yr. sell about 3/4 of it.
My biggest cost is fuel. Last yr I sent over 3K on fuel. If go electric that will be money in my pocket.
How dont talk to be about cost or replacing a worn out battery pact.
It is called a battery pact for a reason.
It has up to 40 separate batteries in it.
When ur tractor says the battery pack is dead that is not true. Only 1 to 3 of these batteries that are dead.
Any one with any kind of skill with a wrench and screw driver can take the pack apart test the cell (as the industry calls the individual batteries b/c they dont want u to know that the case or pact holds up top 48 replaceable cells (batteries as we know them) .
The cost of the cells buy them selves is just about $200 now so with a little work u can save up to 10K by doing this.
If u dont know how or dont want to mess with it there are ppl out there who will replace them for u for about 4500 labor +plus parts.
This may take up as long as 2 hr the first time u do it but with repeating it u can get it down to as low as 45 min.
I have done this twice now with My '13 Leaf. Getting it out of the car is the real work that takes time and then Putting it back in.
With these French tractors that is not so.
This means that more then likely I can now do this in less then 1/2 hr.
BTW but for Elon every one uses the same cells. Littler dif between what everyone else uses but enough so that Elon shit has to use his which cost up to 50% more then anyone else's and there is not h=but maybe 10% more charge in them if u are lucky
Just one more reason not to buy Elon shit.
we live in a global market my friend....what you see in farms in the EU is the same stuff that we see all over the planet. This is just a little "yard tractor" ...that's about it. A homesteading tractor, big ag operations make concessions for bigger machines and longer run times. To put a removable battery on this wouldn't make much sense because most folks that run a small tractor won't have the equipment to pick it up and take it out...and if you're running a 25hp tractor much longer than 4 hours to mow...ya need a bigger tractor
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer man the day that setup that with a programmable route and can side task while it runs is the day. Imagine not having to sit on tractor and get other projects done in the same field so your close by. Give me that feature don't care if its electric or diesel or powered by hamsters.
I appreciate the honest review. Electric drivetrains have a lot of advantages and probably could have positive return on investment for some users over gas/diesel. I think if they had a smaller/cheaper option that better competed in the sub-compact segment, it would be a very interesting option.
I drove a plug-in hybrid car for 7 years, mostly in electric mode, that literally paid for itself in gas savings due to a long commute to work (I charged at home and at work).
It was money in my pocket and a lot of time saved in gas station trips. Of course those who would rather listen to politicians or propaganda paid for by the oil industry than use a calculator or spreadsheet will never understand.
Did you pay for the electricity at work while it was being charged if not then that might not be a fair comparison to anyone that doesn't have that advantage
Yes, I paid for electricity both ways. Cost about $.89 each way for electricity vs. about $8 of gas in my old car. @@kirkkw
That loader sure lifts & dumps slow....
tractor loaders are pretty slow in most cases, but I agree...this company is now bankrupt!
Would like to try one,for chores 4 hours would be adequate would just run don't halft to start a cold diesel and occasionally fuel freeze up after ya get down the road. Still don't know about the fuel cost in cold weather 4hrs could be ok but pretty certain time will be shorter in cold climates. I'll remain open minded question if everyone changes to electric who will build enough generators and will they be coal fired,libs might wet themselves 😜👍
I guess the real conversation is this....who's mowing in the winter? If you're using for snow removal, don't expect much out of a 25hp machine, it's very light for pushing snow. I have experienced "sluggishness" for the first few seconds in colder weather, and I hear batteries really don't like the cold, although I store my extra batteries for around the house in my fridge lol
ONE QUESTION : HOW MUCH DOES IT COST?????? I used to run both gas and Electric Forklifts and there is a big differance in Charging down time for the Electric which the gas does not have.... We have alocal Wal-mart with charging stations and last weekend they were full. I usaly talk to people who are charging them. They Hate the charging Down time. Most who own them tell their friends DO NOT BUY AND ELECTRIC CAR.
check out their website, you can find pricing. I'm not trying to sell ya on this tractor, it's not a Tesla or EV that you rely on to get to work or the hospital, it's simply an electric version of a small 25hp tractor, It's done pretty well and I like it
I would like to see a 50-75hp electric equivalent with longer run time in the future
Nice review. Kelly’s Country Life on UA-cam did a review like yours for a small country home use, like I would use when I finally get a country house.
Great concept if you had unlimited free energy. Just like cordless tools, you can carry your power with you or you can plug into a portable power supply and be tethered to a cord. Fill your tractor with diesel fuel or get your electric charge via coal burning generator with trickle charge solar energy
Even if you don't have free energy, it is a lot cheaper to run than diesel or gasoline.