Black CA couple lowballed by $500K in home appraisal, believe race was a factor

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  • Опубліковано 11 лют 2021
  • In the New Year, systemic racism has continued to force inequity in home ownership rates across the Bay Area, and Black families who are in a position to purchase a home often face discrimination. abc7ne.ws/3dbBkSm
    Here's what happened to a Marin City couple who say they were lowballed by $500,000 in their home appraisal and believe race was a factor.
    #race #homeownership #discrimination #California

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  • @adventpotatoes1118
    @adventpotatoes1118 3 роки тому +255

    We don’t talk about real estate and banking racism enough. It’s a major issue.

    • @VaL-ln3im
      @VaL-ln3im 3 роки тому +10

      We do they just hear what they want to hear 🙄

    • @geraldgreauxjr.7106
      @geraldgreauxjr.7106 3 роки тому +3

      It's also stupidity to think people of color dont have common sense. I had to fire a realtor because they insisted in showing us house's with formats I firmly advised I did not want! Still they kept taking us out of the school district we wanted and houses with room additions in the attic??? Finally I had enough. Stand your ground and do your research.

    • @johngenericlastname9781
      @johngenericlastname9781 3 роки тому +2

      @@geraldgreauxjr.7106 how dare you try and hold adults responsible for their decisions.

    • @geraldgreauxjr.7106
      @geraldgreauxjr.7106 3 роки тому +4

      @@johngenericlastname9781 🤣😅🤣🤣 I guess our old realtor figured if she put on short skirts n boots I would not really pay attention to the house she was showing us? My wife was not amused?🤪.....maybe our mortgage broker should have told her I work in the industry with portfolios and property recovery to reo's?

    • @melanatedj9660
      @melanatedj9660 3 роки тому

      Or redlining

  • @Studmuffin_
    @Studmuffin_ 3 роки тому +178

    American logic: “We want Black people to fight for us and entertain us but never be one of us.” This is why Muhammad Ali didn’t go to war.

    • @billybob6469
      @billybob6469 3 роки тому +3

      There was a black president and now there is a sorta black Vice President I think people can stop saying things like this already

    • @EmpressBre
      @EmpressBre 3 роки тому +37

      @@billybob6469 omg give it a rest. Neither the Vice President or Obama are FULLY BLACK and that has nothing to do with this video! U are apart of the problem, always deflecting.

    • @billybob6469
      @billybob6469 3 роки тому +1

      @@EmpressBre what about the fact they were able to buy the home only because they were black. Why doesn’t anyone mention that? And oh now Obama ain’t black enough for you wow lol do you want to see a pure black blooded man in the office before your satisfied? Wow

    • @billybob6469
      @billybob6469 3 роки тому +3

      @@EmpressBre black people always screaming “racist” is the problem!

    • @billybob6469
      @billybob6469 3 роки тому +2

      @@EmpressBre it ain’t about black and white it’s about poor vs rich. The rich especially generational wealthy have all the connections which is why their kids have it easier. That combined with the areas they grow up in and they’re are dealt better hands in life. Which is why you see poor communities of every race black white asian Mexicans it don’t matter it’s about the money.

  • @luminouscali
    @luminouscali 3 роки тому +103

    This is shameful. That they had to resort to asking their white friend to help makes me sad that we have to live this way.

    • @billybob6469
      @billybob6469 3 роки тому +1

      What about the fact they were able to buy the home just cus they were black

    • @bonitaapplebum0088
      @bonitaapplebum0088 3 роки тому +26

      @@billybob6469 they were able to buy the home because they had the money, clown.

    • @billybob6469
      @billybob6469 3 роки тому +1

      @@bonitaapplebum0088 watch the video again it says they kept getting outbid but the previous homeowners who were black wanted to sell to a black family. If you replaced black with white and said that same sentence a lot of people would be singing a different tune. Selling to someone based on race over another is racist!! And discrimination!!

    • @bonitaapplebum0088
      @bonitaapplebum0088 3 роки тому +16

      @@billybob6469 so in your mind, private citizens can't sell things to people they want to because it's discrimination? Every race of people sells homes off market to people they know.

    • @danm5307
      @danm5307 3 роки тому +5

      @@billybob6469 they said they "would have" been outbid, meaning that they never tried... please stop twisting the story.

  • @SimplyInterested
    @SimplyInterested 3 роки тому +100

    I've had a similar experience. I once went to Platos Closet to sell my sons baby clothes and before I took them I went through them to separate and wash the clothes. I took them inside the store and the employee opened the box and took a few shirts out and stopped going through them and said I don't think this will be a good fit for our store. I was confused because Platos Closet is a more stylish version of the Salvation Army. So of course my intial emotion was anger but then I remembered my cousins long time girlfriend was white. So I called her and asked her to meet me at the store. She said she would in an hour. So after she took the clothes in and the same employee took them with so much gratitude she gave her upsale prices because as she said there were some "nice pieces" that she know that she could sell right away 😂🙄. After she gave her the money and my tax deduction receipt I went in and asked her to explain herself and she couldn't. That was when I was younger though. I'm done explaining to white people about what's wrong with obviously wrong shit. I know this ain't the same as being cheated out of 500k but it just made me think of that story.

    • @Kikinahm
      @Kikinahm 3 роки тому +20

      Really, that's an even bigger issue...as a black women I completely understand what you went through. I'm overly tired of explaining why things like this happen.

    • @SimplyInterested
      @SimplyInterested 3 роки тому +13

      @@Kikinahm Exactly, because at this point you don't want to know and you're wasting your time trying to explain. While their just continuing to put up that smoke screen pretending to be confused.

    • @VaL-ln3im
      @VaL-ln3im 3 роки тому +17

      Damn now you have me thinking. I too went to those consignment stores to sell my babies old stylish clothes and I received the same reaction. Dang. I should’ve sent my white friend in there too! 🤔

    • @SimplyInterested
      @SimplyInterested 3 роки тому +12

      @@VaL-ln3im Yes and that's just a surface scenario. It goes deep. So the rage is warranted. Black people just need to be very aware and move accordingly.

    • @candaceellison7147
      @candaceellison7147 3 роки тому +5

      I am with you. I am so tired of trying to explain this mess to people who have yet to experience it. They are in denial because we have had a Black president like that makes all forms of racism nonexistent. That's awful that happened to you.

  • @JCollex
    @JCollex 3 роки тому +149

    I'm black from Houston and was considering moving to San Jose.. may have to send my W.R. (white representative) lol

    • @AJay11180
      @AJay11180 3 роки тому +12

      I know people who lived there don’t do it brother pay is high but they go out of their way to make sure we know were not welcome here

    • @JCollex
      @JCollex 3 роки тому +5

      @@UnknownArchive damn my job is in Houston and San Jose so I was considering the change. I still want to visit I'll check out some surrounding areas too.

    • @asante291
      @asante291 3 роки тому +10

      Not a good move brother. Cali is not a place for black people to thrive. Why in the world would you want to leave Houston? Btw I’m from Cali and never looking back.

    • @JCollex
      @JCollex 3 роки тому +4

      @@UnknownArchive Geez 1250 a month for my place downtown Houston walking distance from everything.

    • @ethelbentancourt2233
      @ethelbentancourt2233 3 роки тому +1

      You will

  • @AMDixon
    @AMDixon 3 роки тому +212

    So, what happened with the appraiser? Most people can’t be 1/2 a mil off in their job and not expect some sort of repercussion. At the very least they should review her other appraisals to confirm she hasn’t done this to other POC’s or other individuals she may not agree with like single mothers or the LGBTQ community. Glad they got the home reappraised - looks like they put a lot of work into it, they deserve to benefit from their investment just like any other home owner would.

    • @leenielove7356
      @leenielove7356 3 роки тому +7

      @@VestRSU in OC here, the appraisal doesn’t matter. There’s too much demand so the houses always sell for much higher than the asking price. I don’t think it’s a race issue. It’s the location and the demand of where people want to live. If you’re in an area that has security, near freeways, good shopping/restaurants, the demand will be higher and there will be more competition. The investments you make in renovations don’t necessarily always raise your home value if it’s done in a bad neighborhood.

    • @mikea8081
      @mikea8081 3 роки тому +28

      @@VestRSU Zillow/Redfin are notoriously inaccurate. The $100k isnt too far off if the average home in the bay is $1.1M. This woman seemed to be significantly wrong such that she either cant do her job or it was someone else. What I will also say is that this is NOT the first time a story has come out like this.

    • @chillende
      @chillende 3 роки тому +12

      The appraiser was probably looking to either buy the property herself or to get someone else she knows to buy it. F*ck her.

    • @MrRizsbox
      @MrRizsbox 3 роки тому +41

      @@chillende or just racist

    • @dezmitchell5329
      @dezmitchell5329 3 роки тому +39

      @@VestRSU what does it take for you to see clear evidence of racism?

  • @Runconna
    @Runconna 3 роки тому +147

    This needs to be a tv show. Sure its happening all over.

    • @himmie1
      @himmie1 3 роки тому +7

      This is the second video I have seen in 2 weeks

    • @billybob6469
      @billybob6469 3 роки тому

      What about the fact they were able to buy this home just cus they were black?

    • @FailedFlea93
      @FailedFlea93 3 роки тому +6

      @@billybob6469 And what is your point?

    • @billybob6469
      @billybob6469 3 роки тому +1

      @@FailedFlea93 that that in itself is racist!! And discrimination yet no one points it out!

    • @themfingmfer
      @themfingmfer 3 роки тому +14

      @@billybob6469 Do you realize how many black people could NOT buy homes just because they were BLACK? Did you even watch the fucking video?

  • @edg8535
    @edg8535 3 роки тому +26

    If the reporters would actually investigate, bet they will find that the appraiser has done this before and either they or someone they know picked up property for a bargain. That is what needs to be checked out.

  • @chillende
    @chillende 3 роки тому +56

    So, financial assistance for future homebuyers but no investigations or prosecutions for people or businesses who engage in such blatantly discriminatory practices??? That makes sense.

    • @EskiLdn
      @EskiLdn 3 роки тому +3

      Any proof its discriminatory?

    • @FeR-kt1jt
      @FeR-kt1jt 3 роки тому +18

      @@EskiLdn the fact she's not under investigation or wasnt fired for fuccin off 500K on her job.

    • @flclub54
      @flclub54 3 роки тому

      @@EskiLdn just SHhhhhhh

    • @EskiLdn
      @EskiLdn 3 роки тому

      @@flclub54 Is this one of those if your not calling black people victims of racism you should shut up. ssshhhes?

    • @Wanderer25
      @Wanderer25 3 роки тому

      @@EskiLdn The Color Of Law. There's your proof. I doubt you'll read it though. You denialists don't read.

  • @user-bm8wc9qm3s
    @user-bm8wc9qm3s 3 роки тому +26

    Call out the lender that made them fight for a second appraisal and call out the appraiser by name!!

    • @rinakat5783
      @rinakat5783 3 роки тому +1

      They definitely need to call out the lender. And I hope they reported that appraiser

    • @nayeblackz
      @nayeblackz 2 роки тому +1

      Miller and perotti appraisers... janette miller was the appraiser

  • @Yourrealtorcecelia
    @Yourrealtorcecelia 3 роки тому +56

    Read “The Color Of Law”

  • @Westnile8501
    @Westnile8501 3 роки тому +35

    What's hard in the Bay Area is MADE even harder for some. Watch the language these folks like to play with it.

    • @billybob6469
      @billybob6469 3 роки тому +2

      What about the fact they were able to buy the home just cus they were black

    • @vashon418
      @vashon418 3 роки тому +7

      @@billybob6469 private owner sold to who they wanted.

  • @azikiwe12
    @azikiwe12 3 роки тому +76

    When my Black friends removed their family photos, their house finally was sold and was offered more... crazy.

    • @bonitaapplebum0088
      @bonitaapplebum0088 3 роки тому +4

      You're supposed to remove those tho

    • @bonitaapplebum0088
      @bonitaapplebum0088 3 роки тому +1

      @Zion the great W is that what I said or are you just pulling shit from your ass?

    • @fuego5532
      @fuego5532 3 роки тому +1

      @@bonitaapplebum0088 I think he/she was trying to be sarcastic " (& they say) racism doesn't exists, huh?"

    • @ShabazzTBL
      @ShabazzTBL 3 роки тому +3

      @@bonitaapplebum0088 so having photos in your home lowers the value? That’s interesting because the white lash in this story put up photos of herself and got a higher price.

    • @moshenewsletter4620
      @moshenewsletter4620 Рік тому

      Evil Wht folks live everywhere in America...

  • @LovelyLoveTV
    @LovelyLoveTV 3 роки тому +37

    I have a rant. The people in the comments saying “it’s not racism” are people who could never experience racism in this country the way black people do. You could not even imagine what it feels like. If you watch this video and others like it, read the studies, talk to black people and actually try to understand, it will be obvious what’s happening. But if you’re not willing to open your own eyes to the truth of what is and has been happening here to us, just stop. All I’m seeing in these negative comments are racist people mad that racism is on display. The worst thing you could call them is racist, so they’ll try to smooth talk racism into a “misunderstanding.” Instead of trying to cure themselves of their own racial illnesses, these people will say racism against black people doesn’t exist at all in any form. Just so that what they feel couldn’t possibly be categorized as racism against black people, but some justified dislike for people who deserve to be disliked.

    • @businesspurposes322
      @businesspurposes322 3 роки тому +6

      They know it's true. They just like to pretend and gaslight us. Just like before Trump got all the racist to show their true colors. They all used to say racism doesn't exist in America.

    • @youalreadyknow9617
      @youalreadyknow9617 3 роки тому +3

      👏🏾 They refuse to own their racism and racist history. They deny facts, studies, and statistics. I prefer racists the way I prefer charges and fees... uncovered and out in the open.

    • @clinroatan
      @clinroatan 2 роки тому +1

      "If you watch this video and others like it, read the studies, talk to black people and actually try to understand, it will be obvious what’s happening". What does the appraiser stand to gain by intentionally low-balling the appraisal? There is no profit motive (she only stands to possibly lose a client), and if she is "an old white woman", she has surely been around the industry long enough to realize her appraisal is not the final word (another can be ordered if it is deemed to contain error by omission or commission or is any way biased)...again, consider why an independent appraiser would intentionally perform work that could destroy their own livelihood. So many have gone completely off the rails here, I guarantee NONE of you have read the reports, can make sense of the reports (the lawyers can't, because I read the lawsuit!), knows how to analyze sales data, knows how many "pole houses" are in each Sales Comparison Grid, nor have you read the actual lawsuit. The outrage here isn't racism, it's hw gullible and ignorant the Woke Mob is.

    • @clinroatan
      @clinroatan 2 роки тому

      @RickReviews ...so what does that tell you?

    • @clinroatan
      @clinroatan 2 роки тому

      @RickReviews ...and what is your point?

  • @skeematics21
    @skeematics21 3 роки тому +121

    This is America..

    • @billybob6469
      @billybob6469 3 роки тому +3

      What about the fact they were able to buy the home just cus they were black

    • @boredfive3001
      @boredfive3001 3 роки тому +1

      Don't catch you slippin' now
      Don't catch you slippin' now
      Look what I'm whippin' now

    • @timmyjones1921
      @timmyjones1921 3 роки тому +1

      Home Of The Brave With Freedom & Justice For All .

    • @SandStormXII
      @SandStormXII 3 роки тому +5

      Amerikkka

  • @emmajackson281
    @emmajackson281 3 роки тому +16

    Why isn't the name of the appraiser noted in this story? That would be extremely helpful so we know who NOT to give our business to. This needs to be investigated so others don't have to suffer such a devastating loss!

    • @nayeblackz
      @nayeblackz 2 роки тому +5

      Miller and perotti appraisers... janette miller was the appraiser

    • @jackjones7665
      @jackjones7665 2 роки тому

      @@nayeblackz If it is true discrimination, what has the Democrat State of California done as a consequence to this appraiser? Also, the tax assessment of this property is the same as the first appraiser's value! Do you think the CA tax assessor is also racist? We need to have the CA IRS investigated for racism as well!

  • @RightCenterBack321
    @RightCenterBack321 3 роки тому +32

    The first appraiser's employer will inevitably need to chime in, lest they want to suffer from bad PR. Interested in what they have to say.

  • @lu881
    @lu881 3 роки тому +73

    This is appalling.
    That woman should have her real estate licence revoked. She CLEARLY cannot do her job!

    • @lu881
      @lu881 3 роки тому +3

      @@UnknownArchive
      Would you deal with a realtor who only gives low offers then?
      Would you want them in the market?

    • @codylecates8873
      @codylecates8873 3 роки тому

      @@lu881 Legally, real estate agents have to present every offer to their client.

    • @andreilyas1426
      @andreilyas1426 3 роки тому +2

      @@UnknownArchive you seem to be an idiot

    • @reemagee4828
      @reemagee4828 2 роки тому

      @@UnknownArchive So enlighten us. What should be the repercussions for the agent's incompetence? What's to stop her from continuing to appraise properties at 50% below value?

    • @reemagee4828
      @reemagee4828 2 роки тому

      @@UnknownArchive The stupid is strong with this one....

  • @willedwards841
    @willedwards841 3 роки тому +41

    Race play a part in every aspect of life for black people

    • @inalienablerights
      @inalienablerights 3 роки тому

      They aren't poor.

    • @willedwards841
      @willedwards841 3 роки тому +4

      @@inalienablerights my bad, I meant black people

    • @723lion
      @723lion 3 роки тому +2

      @@inalienablerights they are selfish and always play that fucking raicist game

    • @sophiaatn5339
      @sophiaatn5339 3 роки тому +1

      and yet people accuse them of playing the race card.

    • @billybob6469
      @billybob6469 3 роки тому

      What about the fact they were able to buy the home just cus they were black

  • @senecastrong4986
    @senecastrong4986 3 роки тому +6

    Let's get the real facts. They only paid $550k for the house. Everyone knows you don't get out what you put into the improvements. What was the quality of the "finished" lower level? Home value is all about Location, Location , Location. This house sits in the middle of a large multi-family dominated neighborhood. Sits next to commercial properties and does not have a bay view.

    • @cocojames2289
      @cocojames2289 3 роки тому

      I was wondering how much they paid. I had a feeling they got a deal when they said off market sale and plus the house needed a lot of work. The inside of the house had nice upgrades, but the outside did not have much curb appeal.

    • @markwharton1678
      @markwharton1678 2 роки тому +1

      As noted they bought it from a family who was restrictive on what races they preferred to sell to. It is always the lower appraiser that is wrong, and not just wrong, it must be racist. /sarc. I think the highest priced home sold for like 1.15 Million in Marin City where this is located when the other appraiser appraised it for 1.482 Million. Politicians pander because people don't care about the facts.

    • @dbb1064
      @dbb1064 Рік тому

      Wow facts, something that 99.9% of these comments and this reporting don't have!

  • @heyitsnasira
    @heyitsnasira 3 роки тому +33

    These comments are wild. Best of luck to them because us Bay Area residents know how Marin can be... The comments are a nice sneak peek 🤣 Y'all mad, mad.

    • @mof5490
      @mof5490 3 роки тому +3

      those who cry racism all the time are racist themselves.

    • @ojamrock7755
      @ojamrock7755 3 роки тому +16

      @@mof5490 You are racist though.

    • @dantegood2195
      @dantegood2195 3 роки тому +16

      @@mof5490 - lol @ cry racism. You types cry about communism and socialism, which have never been factors in America and never will be, but racism, which has been at the heart of America since its inception, should be ignored apparently. You’re too weak to stand for justice and equity in America. U need ur unearned advantage to feel good about yourself.

  • @earlgray9794
    @earlgray9794 3 роки тому +60

    This can't be true. I thought racism doesn't exist anymore. This couple must be playing the race card. Insert sarcasm.

    • @DieselPurge
      @DieselPurge 3 роки тому +2

      You have been living up under a bolder. 😔😒

    • @AdventureRex19
      @AdventureRex19 3 роки тому +1

      Well done

    • @johngenericlastname9781
      @johngenericlastname9781 3 роки тому

      It's their own fault for not doing their due diligence and getting other opinions, they seen the money and jumped at it, greed is their problem.

    • @flclub54
      @flclub54 3 роки тому

      😢😢😢😢

    • @donnachatham1335
      @donnachatham1335 3 роки тому +5

      @@johngenericlastname9781 the bank assigns the appraiser. Greed has nothing to do with it. This is a capitalistic society that we live in and they have every right to gain as much as they can on their property! You need to learn and understand this process before you make silly comments!

  • @Chevy2U
    @Chevy2U 3 роки тому +43

    "Welcome to America" , but somewhere in the fine print there must be exclusions.

  • @RunningEngineer131
    @RunningEngineer131 3 роки тому +20

    I took one look at the interior pics and immediately thought $1.5M easily for a desirable location and beautiful home.

    • @cyberft
      @cyberft 3 роки тому

      Notice the race and equity producer gave none of these details in the story...

  • @asante291
    @asante291 3 роки тому +17

    This is a a damn shame. I hate it here. 😔

    • @lethalphoenix
      @lethalphoenix 3 роки тому

      youre free to move around in the country.

    • @asante291
      @asante291 3 роки тому +5

      @@lethalphoenix Racism is everywhere bro

    • @josephfuquay9587
      @josephfuquay9587 3 роки тому +1

      I Had to Leave Cali
      Bayarea4 good.

    • @babyblue797
      @babyblue797 3 роки тому

      @@asante291 sorry but it's not. Your victim card has expired

    • @asante291
      @asante291 3 роки тому +2

      @@babyblue797 Nope. It actually is. So shut up because you won’t ever walk a day in my shoes. Don’t speak on issues that you can’t relate to. What a ignorant piece of shit

  • @benangotel7844
    @benangotel7844 3 роки тому +7

    Same here in las Vegas there was a house for sale last month so I called the number on their board and the white lady told us it's $500,000. But someone check the real price it was $250,000. The house is 50years old or over 50 years

  • @applejm3370
    @applejm3370 3 роки тому +28

    all blacks need to have some white friends

    • @silkyslush
      @silkyslush 3 роки тому +1

      😂🤣😂

    • @longshot1800
      @longshot1800 3 роки тому +1

      Sounds stupid

    • @JOHN16verse33
      @JOHN16verse33 3 роки тому

      😂😂😂😂

    • @realitycheck87
      @realitycheck87 3 роки тому +1

      just dont drink with your white friends

    • @hippydragon13
      @hippydragon13 3 роки тому

      We shouldn’t need to have white friends to be afforded the same privileges

  • @shwetamahajan.newyorkcity
    @shwetamahajan.newyorkcity 3 роки тому +7

    I wish the name of the appraisal company and the woman who performed the appraisal were shared. They don't deserve anonymity. This company needs to face consequences for clearly discriminating against a PROTECTED class in the United States.

    • @nayeblackz
      @nayeblackz 2 роки тому +2

      Miller and perotti appraisers... janette miller was the appraiser

    • @dbb1064
      @dbb1064 Рік тому

      Its shared, but she probably did a better report.

  • @youngdolphunsolved
    @youngdolphunsolved 3 роки тому +7

    1.5 million for that?!?? 🤔😂😂😂

    • @zesolodar
      @zesolodar 3 роки тому +2

      i know right? where i live which is a major us city that house would be 350,000 tops but it is california

    • @keyblade287
      @keyblade287 3 роки тому +8

      It's the Bay area

    • @seismic6435
      @seismic6435 3 роки тому

      Regular houses in Orange County also break the million mark.

  • @johnn3542
    @johnn3542 3 роки тому +40

    Whenever you appraise a house you shouldnt rely on one appraisal.

    • @twyatt8381
      @twyatt8381 3 роки тому +18

      Thanks for missing the point entirely....christ.

    • @190roverk
      @190roverk 3 роки тому

      @@twyatt8381 What's the "point"?

    • @VvvnimaL
      @VvvnimaL 3 роки тому +1

      @@twyatt8381 looks like you did, you go on avg appraisal, not just one, just becuase one presons was lower has nothing to do with race...

    • @twyatt8381
      @twyatt8381 3 роки тому +18

      @@190roverk That there is a multi decade long court and media documented history of racial disparity and inequity in residential real estate markets across this country. I know facts may be hard for you to comprehend lol

    • @johnn3542
      @johnn3542 3 роки тому +1

      @@twyatt8381 the point is that real estate appraisal can vary widely. It sounded like they had help staging the house for the second appraisal. Small things can help and a different opinion.

  • @NatedogMorales
    @NatedogMorales 3 роки тому +45

    CTFU AND PEOPLE WANT TO SAY SYSTEMIC OPPRESSION DOESNT EXIST.

    • @mof5490
      @mof5490 3 роки тому +2

      you're conflating systematic with individual, dumb dumb

    • @mysecretcircle
      @mysecretcircle 3 роки тому +4

      Pale faces know they just don't give a damn.

    • @billybob6469
      @billybob6469 3 роки тому

      What about the fact they were able to buy the home just cus they were black

    • @billybob6469
      @billybob6469 3 роки тому

      @Nic Rellek even still an individual does not mean the system is set up that way. Plenty of rich and successful blacks are proof everyone has a chance. Not everyone is dealt equal hands in life though. Which is why some attain success much easier. But that is a rich vs poor thing not really race as it happens to Mexicans Asians and even white too.

    • @SandStormXII
      @SandStormXII 3 роки тому

      💯

  • @azikiwe12
    @azikiwe12 3 роки тому +14

    THanks for posting this ABC7. This has been happening across the U.S. for years. There should be a series on this.

  • @JayS64
    @JayS64 3 роки тому +6

    Absolutely ridiculous. I think this is the first time I've honestly thought about the added value of having a white friend. 😄

  • @silenthashassin8912
    @silenthashassin8912 3 роки тому +12

    What're you going to do Kamala/Biden? "C'mon man!!!!".

    • @Westnile8501
      @Westnile8501 3 роки тому +9

      Bidens first act in presidency was to legalize Trans women into all female sports.

    • @nikkinanette8807
      @nikkinanette8807 3 роки тому +1

      Nothing, these people are not saviors. You’ll be disappointed every time.

    • @dbb1064
      @dbb1064 2 роки тому

      They will wave something shiny in your face, throw an appraiser who probably isn't the problem under the bus and tell you to thank them.

  • @chris200999
    @chris200999 2 роки тому +2

    I’m from Arkansas grew up in Dallas. Visited San Francisco with me and a friend we experienced a lot more than weird “what’re you doing over here” looks than we ever have in the SOUTH. Those Californians are very odd…

  • @unicornmadness6286
    @unicornmadness6286 2 роки тому +2

    Okay I'm done, I'm going to go live in a cave.

  • @DaysAreDying
    @DaysAreDying 3 роки тому +4

    I own an appraisal company and appraise in Oakland every week. Racial bias is not normal in our line of work. There may have been questions about the legality of the new space they built or about the location. It's hard to know what happened without seeing the report. I hope that the first appraiser was not being biased. That's just wrong.

    • @realitycheck87
      @realitycheck87 3 роки тому +1

      no offense to you but I hope they get rid of you guys. I'm an investor and the discrepancies is the appraisals for my properties have been absurd. even the square footages had discrepancies which is not an opinion. one of only fair ones I had was a computerized one, which I pray they will implement in the future avoiding these situations

    • @dbb1064
      @dbb1064 2 роки тому

      Its always the lower appraisal that is wrong...until someone gets foreclosed on.

    • @dbb1064
      @dbb1064 Рік тому

      Its the same old, the low appraisal is wrong and the high appraisal is right regardless of the facts in the market.

  • @juanch6936
    @juanch6936 2 роки тому +6

    I hope you also share what the lawsuit determines, regardless of the result!

  • @wjro
    @wjro 3 роки тому +6

    Appraisers use comps of recently sold properties within the last 90, 60 and 30 days in active resale markets. Sqft variations can not be more than +/- 15%. Room count can be +/- 1 with adjustments. Let's have a look at the comps between both appeasers and have them explain how and why they used those comps and how they came to their valuation.
    You can do all the exterior ipgrades you want and it have very little value. Valuations are based on replacement value. If the house burned down tomorrow, what would it cost per sqft to rebuild it in todays market.

    • @dbb1064
      @dbb1064 Рік тому

      The complaint is that the original appraiser used comps in the same city instead of going across major roads to places with higher priced homes.

  • @Mogadypopz
    @Mogadypopz 3 роки тому +1

    Housing and finances is one of (if not the biggest) factors of racism.

  • @summertime11413
    @summertime11413 3 роки тому +3

    That black couple did a very clever thing by asking their white friend to step in. That's exactly what I would have done. Also, black owned businesses would probably do better if they don't announce that it's black owned .... It's tragic, but people, we've got to start using our 'Smarts' if we want to get ahead. Just keep it legal! 😞

  • @NiniBonita
    @NiniBonita 3 роки тому +3

    🤦🏽‍♀️From Redlining to this rubbish🤔

  • @chrisgraham2123
    @chrisgraham2123 3 роки тому +1

    This is literally how you fuck over an entire bloodline

  • @TammyClair
    @TammyClair 2 роки тому +2

    Why didn't I think of doing this when my home was devalued. We all have to start dragging these racist people into the racist injustice system anyway. Sue, anyway. 👫😡 This is happening all over America.

  • @jaynemugwanga
    @jaynemugwanga 2 роки тому +4

    Systematic racism

  • @thegeekatl4151
    @thegeekatl4151 3 роки тому +2

    What are the names of racist woman and her company. Expose them all. Why are they protected. How many families were affected? Release their names...

  • @nikkinanette8807
    @nikkinanette8807 3 роки тому +7

    God bless their friend. 💝

  • @sweetfourglambert6129
    @sweetfourglambert6129 3 роки тому +2

    Who did the low ball appraisal... make her name known !!

  • @muskepticsometimes9133
    @muskepticsometimes9133 2 роки тому +1

    I call BS.
    Demand for racism exceeds supply

  • @mattburton3233
    @mattburton3233 2 роки тому +1

    it proves nothing. the free market determines what a house is worth. low home owner rates could be a number of factors. poor credit, number of children in the house, outstanding debt are just a few factors that go into housing availability.

  • @dovidt919
    @dovidt919 3 роки тому +1

    sue the s#$$t out of them,

  • @user-uy5ut9tc5v
    @user-uy5ut9tc5v Рік тому

    Civil rights crimes should be prosecuted under the law

  • @leannathomas2013
    @leannathomas2013 3 роки тому +1

    I am under contract for a new home. I regret telling the lender my race, when asked. I should have elected not to disclose this information. The entire transaction was done online. He explained that the government likes to keep track of the data, to ensure that there is no unfair lending practices.
    I love being Black, but I know that when you are Black and have pristine credit (like I do), they will play games and still try to give you a higher interest rate, than if you were non Black. I have asked that the lender remove my race from my application!

  • @DontSleepOnEm
    @DontSleepOnEm 3 роки тому +3

    It's not uncommon for appraisals to be VASTLY different. Not ruling out foul play, just saying there's possibly more to the story. Home values can increase/decrease, some appraisers get paid more for inflated evaluations, some appraisers are less experienced/lazy. Just looking at it objectively

    • @dbb1064
      @dbb1064 2 роки тому

      I think the highest sale in Marin City where they are located sold around 1.15 Mil when the appraiser for 1.482 Mil was completed. This should at least give people some pause when rushing to judgement, if they are not hypocrites at least.

  • @mrbear3487
    @mrbear3487 3 роки тому +3

    Nice move with the white couple. Good friends always help no matter what

  • @JaeJaeJaeJae1
    @JaeJaeJaeJae1 Рік тому

    The appraiser involved in such discrimination can be sued because this is a major violation of the ECOA Act.

  • @dmill78
    @dmill78 3 роки тому +10

    We believe in the African American Dream,which is simply mutual respect and dignity, everything should fall into place preceding that.

    • @hoodatheist5549
      @hoodatheist5549 3 роки тому +3

      nah fuck that soft shit, what have you learned from history being nice.

    • @bonitaapplebum0088
      @bonitaapplebum0088 3 роки тому

      @@hoodatheist5549 you don't have to be nice to someone to respect them.

    • @hoodatheist5549
      @hoodatheist5549 3 роки тому

      @@bonitaapplebum0088 yes you do, because doing that would mean you don't have respect. Why do I have to explain something so simple?

    • @bonitaapplebum0088
      @bonitaapplebum0088 3 роки тому

      @@hoodatheist5549 no you don't. You never have to interact with someone to respect them or their space. You dont even have to like someone to be respectful. Don't confuse dignity and respect with kissing ass.

    • @hoodatheist5549
      @hoodatheist5549 3 роки тому

      @@bonitaapplebum0088 says a person that is a bitch and don't know nothing about life telling a og in life how it goes. When I was running around outside eing respected you didn't even exist. Qhen I did 10yrs in prison you didn't exist save that shit for someone else Bitch.

  • @EskiLdn
    @EskiLdn 3 роки тому +6

    Any proof that the 2nd appraisal wouldnt have been the same if the black family stayed?. To me it sounds like the first appraisal company tried to rob them for as much as they could while the 2nd didnt. Can we assume thats racism?
    Hey look, if i try to sell a ring to a person and they offer me 10 dollars and then the second person offers me 20 dollars. Does race really play any role in any of that?
    Shouldnt these questions be asked? and shouldnt you get more than 1 or 2 appraisals? i would get about 10 done and sell to the highest offer. Isnt that trade? isnt that capitalism?
    Unless you want communism with a flat set price by the goverment?

    • @VvvnimaL
      @VvvnimaL 3 роки тому +2

      Logic doesn't fit the agenda

    • @NatedogMorales
      @NatedogMorales 3 роки тому +10

      @@VvvnimaL that's a cop-out remark when you don't have anything else to say, in contrast you sound racist with that hateful statement ya moron.

    • @billybob6469
      @billybob6469 3 роки тому

      What about the fact they were able to buy the home just cus they were black

    • @billybob6469
      @billybob6469 3 роки тому

      Exactly there’s no proof this has anything to do with racr since they uses two daifferrnr companies

    • @seismic6435
      @seismic6435 3 роки тому

      There's a history of these practices and also many studies that have adequate control parameters that still prove the appraisal disparities. You can look this uo

  • @EVOLMAI
    @EVOLMAI 3 роки тому +1

    The first appraiser needs to be fired 😡
    other appraisals she had given needs
    to been re done...

    • @dbb1064
      @dbb1064 Рік тому

      Fired for doing a good job? Looks like you don't know the market there. Its like firing a doctor for diagnosing you with cancer because you don;t want to hear it.

    • @EVOLMAI
      @EVOLMAI Рік тому

      @@dbb1064 😳YOU LATE MOVE AROUND 🙄

  • @gerardocortez8833
    @gerardocortez8833 3 роки тому +7

    Great piece, I’m glad you also talk about mortgage also of a person of color Hispanic we pay more on mortgages. It’s a issue that I know needs to change

    • @VvvnimaL
      @VvvnimaL 3 роки тому +1

      hispanic isn't a color btw.

  • @Arcwol
    @Arcwol 3 роки тому +2

    Unreal. But no one should be suprised by this at all. Nothing is more certain than death or the Black Tax. TIA

  • @korenng5553
    @korenng5553 3 роки тому

    Horrible...this needs cleanup!

  • @screenapple1660
    @screenapple1660 3 роки тому +1

    Why would anyone move to California?

  • @rayamanelly
    @rayamanelly 3 роки тому +2

    Forget reparations, I'll take tuition free state university and a 100k business start up grant.

    • @hayaglamazonluxe
      @hayaglamazonluxe 3 роки тому

      That's still reparations if it's free and you are asking for a grant.

    • @rayamanelly
      @rayamanelly 3 роки тому +1

      @@hayaglamazonluxe
      Not if it's accessible to everyone. But not everyone will take advantage.

  • @sunshine-wb7gr
    @sunshine-wb7gr 3 роки тому +8

    Push back 💪 ❤️🙏 black lives matter

    • @selinalau7148
      @selinalau7148 3 роки тому

      please donate some money to poor black people

  • @Buttercup333
    @Buttercup333 2 роки тому

    It's not race.. It's greed!

  • @pullupandgetsome427
    @pullupandgetsome427 3 роки тому +1

    2021 and they still aren't fair.

  • @The.End.Begins24
    @The.End.Begins24 3 роки тому +1

    Banks charge blacks more on interest 5th3rd may not anymore because they got sued.

  • @joemomma707
    @joemomma707 3 роки тому +1

    Somebody needs to make a compilation of this. This is the the third video I’ve seen recently

  • @mattmccullough1093
    @mattmccullough1093 2 роки тому +1

    My question is why are they trying to make this about race because I'm white and I've been through the same thing as them I'm a white guy and I know exactly what these guys are going through I can relate to them so this has to do with race I want some kind of proof because if a white person were to claim that they were cheated out of probably cuz they're white you would call that bulshit so I want some kind of proof the only reason I'm saying that is because I'm white and I've been through the same thing as them.

  • @bhuff123
    @bhuff123 3 роки тому +5

    Once a society has built-in issues it’s almost impossible to change them without totally demolishing the system and starting all over so have

    • @albeit1
      @albeit1 3 роки тому

      You really should think about that statement.
      Is there any evidence at all that countries DON’T evolve?
      Because every society has issues.
      And if you would look at Hans Rosling’s work with visualizing human progress, you’d see most countries are making significant progress.
      There are also no “issue-free” societies with which to compare.
      And starting a country over again, as happened with Russia and China, resulted in millions dead. And still have abuses of the population.

  • @rainesail
    @rainesail 2 роки тому

    Keep the house and the lower appraisal and pay lower taxes. They already said offers get outbid on the market so it would likely sell above market value regardless of how it’s appraised.

  • @ronhudson4981
    @ronhudson4981 3 роки тому +1

    Getting somebody White to represent them was really smart🤓I thought the couple had come across the racially restrictive Covenants & were told they had to be White to qualify for a Mortgage, but I guess I stand corrected🔥💯♍💎😷😎

  • @FeatureRequest
    @FeatureRequest 3 роки тому +2

    damn thats so smart of them to do the switcheroo lol

  • @jamesdalton7191
    @jamesdalton7191 3 роки тому +1

    Its more than racism. Its called greed. Realtors probably low balling and giving friends and or investors the heads up on a profit making opportunity. Ive seen 1st hand a so called realtor "friend" shown a house for sale to get their opinion then that realtor turning around and the husband buying the house, doing renovations and then the realtor "friend" becoming the realtor broker selling the house with her dam picture on the for sale sign. True as all could be. I was a witness and nothing was done about it.

  • @ebvisionnetwork8758
    @ebvisionnetwork8758 3 роки тому +6

    Omg this just happened to my daughter ‼️I got to send this to my daughter...

    • @dbb1064
      @dbb1064 Рік тому

      Your daughter got a 2nd inflated appraisal?

    • @ebvisionnetwork8758
      @ebvisionnetwork8758 Рік тому

      @@dbb1064 my daughter’s appraisal was not inflated- her first appraisal was way below market value of her house, During my early years I was a realtor, I found my daughter this house and new it’s value. When she told me what the appraiser can back with , I told her he was wrong. Get another appraisal. I didn’t want to say this however, this is a majority upper income White neighborhood and my daughter is Black. I knew what was happening. The second appraisal came back with my conclusions of the value of the property. In today’s market my daughter just had another appraisal. And her property is worth over $100.000 of what she paid for it. I told her don’t sale.

  • @fergman300
    @fergman300 3 роки тому +10

    Why didnt they cover black home ownership numbers in Oakland when talking about the bay area....

    • @bribay
      @bribay 3 роки тому +2

      That's what you got out of this video?

    • @andreilyas1426
      @andreilyas1426 3 роки тому +1

      what's your point here ?

  • @michaeln.2383
    @michaeln.2383 3 роки тому +4

    When I was in college, I got a C- on an essay that I know should have gotten an A. I'm convinced to this day that the low grade was because I'm white and teacher was hispanic.

    • @ethelbentancourt2233
      @ethelbentancourt2233 3 роки тому

      I believe you it happens

    • @steelystan7922
      @steelystan7922 3 роки тому +3

      It's possible but very doubtful because Hispanics more than not favor White people. I think it should be noted that they also see themselves/identity as White with many flat out being White so idk what to tell you.

    • @michaeln.2383
      @michaeln.2383 3 роки тому

      I got A's in both of my English composition classes. The essay that I got a C- on was just as good or better than all the essays that I got A's on in my English composition classes. I know why I got the C-. It's no mystery.

  • @dejohnson2277
    @dejohnson2277 3 роки тому +1

    I had a house in a nice area had to sell because too many section 8 renters were tearing shit up in my neighborhood. Got the hell out.

  • @FrankGallagher1700
    @FrankGallagher1700 3 роки тому +3

    People will say anything before they will say it’s racist lol I read a comment that said maybe they made improvements without permits & that’s why the house value went up $500k lmaoooo u can’t make illegal improvements & then count those improvements toward the value of your house 🤦🏾‍♂️ U can’t redo ur basement without permits & then try to get ur house appraised higher for said illegal basement lol that’s not how it works u fool

    • @leomoore3597
      @leomoore3597 3 роки тому

      Who said the improvements were illegal ? You can"t do that amount of massive work without permits. The City or county would stop you in your tracks before you were anywhere near completing it !

    • @tigerroselili5765
      @tigerroselili5765 3 роки тому

      You are not black, why are you using a black emoji?

    • @FrankGallagher1700
      @FrankGallagher1700 3 роки тому

      @leo Moore u clearly ain’t read what I said lol me & u are saying the samething. Please read then comment

  • @mattmccullough1093
    @mattmccullough1093 2 роки тому +1

    In my opinion you need to be able to prove that you were discriminated against and not just take someone's word for it when they say they're discriminated. against cuz a lot of people lie and say that there discriminated against just to get suff handed to them and just to get people to feel sorry for them. so in my opinion if your discriminated against you need to have some kind of proof of that.

  • @GodSonBlessed
    @GodSonBlessed 3 роки тому +1

    You gotta understand, the more they see us shine, the more they despise us. Don't make the mistake of assuming they'll love you just because you have a nice degree or you can afford to live in an an upscale area.

  • @timtoolman9940
    @timtoolman9940 2 роки тому

    You can update and remodel a house surrounded by crappy houses and the value of the surrounding houses offset the money you spend. What is the address of this house?

  • @ENOREL
    @ENOREL 3 роки тому +1

    Pretty much a guarantee PoC will be over-charged or under-payed

    • @swiggs_7
      @swiggs_7 3 роки тому +4

      Not POC...BLACK.

  • @rahmann4280
    @rahmann4280 3 роки тому +1

    Seen where this happened to a mixed couple in Florida, the home doesn’t care about race neither should people they should be doing their job

  • @BLX187
    @BLX187 3 роки тому +3

    Jealousy envy or hate?

    • @jerb9254
      @jerb9254 3 роки тому +1

      I'm gonna go with all three.

  • @howardcampbell6796
    @howardcampbell6796 3 роки тому

    My friend tried to sell his house in a predominantly white neighborhood. Realtor told him he needed to "stage" his house . Told him to remove all family pictures and cultural types of decorations.

  • @eddypan007
    @eddypan007 3 роки тому +3

    Tag the appraiser

  • @charlesbaker8798
    @charlesbaker8798 3 роки тому +3

    As an appraiser and reviewer with 31+ years experience in SoCal, allegations of bias at the hands of real estate appraisers pains me. I've appraised hundreds of properties in "minority" owned neighborhoods in South Los Angeles, many of which have seen the greatest increase in property values in the past ten years. As is the case in virtually every neighborhood, this is a double-edge sword - as equity builds for existing homeowners, potential buyers are getting priced out. The published cases appear to be for exclusively refinance transactions. In the case of a purchase transaction, the "price" has already been negotiated between the parties, so "bias" on the part of an appraiser is a non-issue. Moreover, in a purchase transaction the appraiser rarely sees the buyer or the seller and likely has no idea of the race of either party. It is also common knowledge among real estate agents that it is advisable to take down personal photos for a listing. I'm not suggesting photos be taken down for a refinance appraisal but perhaps if it would help eliminate the potential for bias, perhaps it's a good idea. If I happen to take an interior picture with a photo on the wall, I always blur it out.
    Bottom line, I would urge any victim of alleged racism by an appraiser to provide all appraisal reports to an investigative body for thorough review. If there's bias it will be evident in the data. The Appraisal Institute has been attempting to obtain copies of the reports in question but have been rebuffed. This is not helpful to a thorough vetting of the problem. The need for boots on the ground appraisers isn't going away, so let's work together and find solutions.

    • @franksmith16
      @franksmith16 2 роки тому +1

      Ok boomer

    • @json4061
      @json4061 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, OK, sounds like you’re justifying the racism in my skim of your thesis. And many people have removed photos, which suggests their is deep-seeded racism that one would need to do that.

  • @rocketraccoon1976
    @rocketraccoon1976 2 роки тому

    Hmmm... can you use the lower appraisal value for property tax purposes?
    "Yes, Mr. Tax Collector, we just recently got our house appraised and found out the value was way lower than your office appraised it at. According to the regulations, you need to lower your appraisal to match."
    😏😏😏

  • @Jimiec
    @Jimiec 3 роки тому +1

    Where is she now? You can’t say the 2nd appraisal came in higher just because they it looked white owned. The 2nd appraisal could have came in the same with or without the change. It’s the 1st individual that’s the problem. The 1st appraiser should be fired.

    • @clinroatan
      @clinroatan 2 роки тому

      Young people these days largely lack intelligence and can't even remember the simple Scientific Method, and the steps required to perform credible experiments. Sigh

    • @dbb1064
      @dbb1064 2 роки тому

      So the lower appraisal is always wrong.

  • @timeandplace4114
    @timeandplace4114 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for reporting this blatant disparity in the appraisal, buying and selling in every aspect of the real estate arena. Watch the CBS This Morning Show's report of Feb. 19, 2021 on the decades of redlining in the planned suburbs of Lyndhurst, New Jersey. The federal government (FHA) actually planned and supported American Blacks from buying in Lyndhurst for decades; yes decades.

  • @greystone62
    @greystone62 3 роки тому

    They should be sued....

  • @zro3266
    @zro3266 3 роки тому +1

    Amerikkka will never change

  • @Vet0714
    @Vet0714 3 роки тому +1

    They still didn’t definitively prove it was racially motivated because they used a totally different appraiser when they utilized their white friend so how could they prove the original appraiser was racially motivated or not? And was the new appraiser white too? Notice they didn’t mention that in the segment. Weird stuff happens all the time in real estate. In specific cases I’m sure there are racially motivated low ball moves like this, maybe this was one of them but again it hasn’t been legitimately proven. A family member of mine was screwed over by the realtor and the appraiser and they sold their house way under its value and come to find out the appraiser and realtor were related and the realtor’s daughter bought the house for below market value. Total scam and it happens often.

  • @chome4
    @chome4 3 роки тому

    What's the name of the appraiser?

  • @cerveza2297
    @cerveza2297 3 роки тому +3

    Disgrace

  • @jayyoung778
    @jayyoung778 3 роки тому +6

    Ha, this happens a the time just search it on UA-cam. The only ppl that surprise are none minority for the most part.

    • @damoag2
      @damoag2 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly all the time across the U.S.

    • @billybob6469
      @billybob6469 3 роки тому

      What about the fact they were able to buy the home just cus they were black

    • @jayyoung778
      @jayyoung778 3 роки тому +2

      @@billybob6469 thank you billy bob but the person sold it to them which they have the right to do. You can sell your house to anyone. What does that have to do with the appraiser lowballing them because they were black. They did not get a discount they paid market value.
      So all you got from that is that they bought the house from another black family who chose to sell it to them at fair market value instead of selling to a none black family?
      I appreciate your input but your comment sounds about white(right). You are agreeing with them losing the $500k for being black.😂👎🏽

    • @billybob6469
      @billybob6469 3 роки тому

      @@jayyoung778 no buddy your not understanding rewatch the video it says they kept getting outbid but got that house from another black couple who wanted to sell to another black couple. So what about the bids from whites or Hispanics? They were not considered because they were looking to sell to blacks. If that was something that happened regarding whites you’d be singing another tune. I can say the same thing the apparatuses can say they think the hose is worth x amount of money they have every right to do so what’s racist about that?

  • @VikTheRebel
    @VikTheRebel 3 роки тому +1

    So frustrating

  • @lonnaann5528
    @lonnaann5528 Рік тому

    Race plays a factor in everything that we do