The Celebrity Block-out is a Mess
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The reason the girl at 16:00 saw the Kardashian ads after blocking them is because she JUST searched up all of their names across multiple platforms.
No it's cuz conspiracy or something
Daaang big brain moment, that makes sense
It's wild that someone on the internet as much as she probably is doesn't even understand how the internet even works. These people are fucking nuts and they just wanna do something performative for the sake of content
Or talking about it. Idk how to get my phone or my TV to stop listening to me.
I'll have a conversation with my fiance & then we'll get ads pertaining to what we were talking about. I'm like wtf I didn't even look it up. So now when I'm at other people's house I make sure to whisper some crazy stuff into their alexas & hope they get some wild ads.
@@LAChantroseBro tin foil? Please get past 90’s conspiracies
It’s so funny cuz i’ve seen so many Palestinians talk about how this isn’t doing shit and this is performative activism and non Palestinians continue to talk over them
I'm palestinean and I think it is doing something. 1. Awareness. 2. A small dent in celebritie's wealth, but most importantly their ego.
3. Satisfying af. 4. Making a statement that might get the attention of these celebrities, which it did btw, lizzo is sharing gofundme's for example. 5. Many marketing professionals said this does make a difference when it comes to targeting their audience for selling products they endorse
yep, i was on the fence at first (thought it was harmless) but was set straight by reading posts by palestinian activists. can't imagine how irritated i would be if i were them, it's super frivolous and they don't have the luxury of wasting time.
even as someone outside of palestine this stuff pisses me off a little now, i've seen more death in the past few months than i ever have in my life. and people are still just focused on celebrities and what THEY make of all this.
@@jumanasaadeh2817 IT. ISNT. DOING. SHIT.
@@jumanasaadeh2817 lol like that one girl said, you’re still seeing ads of them? You guys are also blocking people that have spoken up about Palestine INCLUDING GIGI HADID.
@@jamsquan9415 unfortunately, this is how the world works. Taylor swift for example has more influence than all world leaders combined. If she chose to speak up and use her platform, it would literally shift hundreds of millions of people's views on the issue. Hence getting more support. Hence getting more donations. Hence increasing activism in the right direction. Not to mention it is the right thing to do as a public figure.
Tiktokers have changed so many people's views and raised awareness by being vocal on this issue while they have less than a fraction of influence/followers than these miserable celebrities do.
So blocking them *will* bruise their ego. They cannot go to the met gala during current world events and get away with it without consequences. It is the *least* we can do and does not take much time.
Also, if you don't have the money to donate constantly or cannot physically go to gaza to help out or do not have a platform to spread awareness or the time to protest on college campuses, what is there left to do? People already feel helpless so telling them this doesn't make any difference while it does, is the harmful part.
The organization may be terrible, but opting out of celebrity drivel is a net positive.
The problem is that it's not enough. It's not even the bare minimum.
Imagine if someone in your house asked you to take out the trash and you helped by tossing a wrapper near the trash can. It misses the point, and the trash is still in the house.
My thoughts exactly.
Sure, block dumb accounts. That could be nice. But the people pushing this big movement are saying these specific celebrity names more than I've heard them in years!
Yet they're still watching movies, streaming shows and listening to music. What the hell does blocking them on social media do?
I can agree that celebrity worship can definitely go too far, but I also think that liking a famous person is fine. I think often times people conflate over the top celebrity culture with content they just don't like.
I don't really follow many celebrities closely but there are UA-camrs whose content I follow pretty closely. There are authors whose books I will always read. There are actors that I have a certain level of nostalgia when I see them on screen because they were in childhood favorite movies.
If someone is causing you stress by all means block them! But I don't really think these blocking campaigns are really changing anyone's quality of life.
you do have to know what youre talking about to organize a protest... otherwise you end up with an ideologically confusing stance that doesnt effect the people who are causing the issues
i think thats the biggest issue with any type of online activism, it all spirals out too fast because people get info from different places and theres simply too much activity to have any sense of control over it
Yes, we should expect the masses to be just as pious and politcally aware as all of us. Stop. It's making an impact. Chill. It's effectively a working boycott. Why can't my fellow leftists lighten up?
While I agree, it sucks that we're requiring and relying on some of the youngest and least experienced communicators to be these absolutely articulate ideologues, because we *can't* rely on the centrist dads of the world to take a stance on anything.
Or even worse, undermines the actual work being done on real issues.
Conceptually starving out useless influencers and creating pressure to use that influence for more than shilling products isn't a horrible idea. Can't say the execution has been consistent or good lol
From my perspective, if they are small enough creators/celebs to be successfully starved out by an online boycott such as this, they most likely weren't in the financial or social place to make the difference people are claiming they would. Also if they feel pressured to take a stand but have misinformation or not enough education, that heightens the chance for them to choose Israel in a misguided attempt to do "the right thing"
This Block guy literally says the opposite though. He says "go follow independent artists and small business owners" like they can't also be toxic clout chasers and out-of-touch multi-millionaires who don't use their money for good causes, respectively.
Yeah that's what I'm saying dog
@UTTP-142 huh? brüh calm your ai farm
Woo i just blocked kim kardashian... Now Im exhausted from all this important activism
i don’t think anybody is pretending like this is the core of the activist project lol i think people are just taking an opportunity to disconnect from random talking heads who don’t raise any kind of awareness. this wasn’t supposed to become a huge talking point it’s just something people were doing to put a little pressure on influencers and eliminate distractions from their feed.
@@tonoornottono nah its performative bullshit lol
@@vitaminwater9662 how is it performative if most people aren’t publicizing it? it’s not even about having a material effect, like i don’t think it IS super ideological for most people. it’s just an individual thing. this is not part of the organizational, activist process. this is just a personal process which feels kinda long-overdue to most people. i don’t want to see these celebrities anymore. i don’t care if it affects their wallet one way or the other, i just don’t want to see them. i think that’s fine, and i think it’s where most people are coming from. maybe i’m wrong.
like i had never heard of this guy before, the block2024 guy. never seen him. i just heard some people saying they were blocking celebrities who weren’t speaking out and i thought it was a good idea. i didn’t think it would fucking change the world and i didn’t think i was a hero for doing it. it just seemed right for my life. i mean eff off right? eff off.
@@tonoornottono yeaaaaah thats why all of these freaks are saying shit like "WE need to be the celebrities" and why they think this dumb movement is groundbreaking. If YOU just dont wanna see celebrities then block them but if you think thats everyones mindset you have way too much faith in clout chasers
@@tonoornottonohow is it performative? Watch the first dude and then ask again
“Our attention is their currency” My guy your attention is needed on the ROAAAAD
LMFAOOOOOO
I'm sure Taylor Swift will be in shambles if I block her on Instagram. I, someone that never listened to her music or followed her.
Will it have an effect on Taylor Swift, no. But other celebs like Lizzo it's made them change their tune. It works for some, not for all!
I’m sure you saw some of her ads at some point tho
@@toryalyn it’s almost like she just came out with a new album
@@toryalynI don't get any ads, so I actually haven't.
@@leeprew so fcking delusional jfc
What bugged me about it was how disconnected it was from how they actually make their money and how sloppy it was in terms of focusing attention.
I could maybe tolerate it if each day he picked 1 person, talked specifically about their views or behavior that he disagreed with, and then blocked them.
Instead it seems clearly to just be a scheme for him to become the worst kind of celebrity: an anti-celebrity
Also he's really bad at analyzing SocialBlade and appreciating the 'noise' in those figures
Exactly. This feels like a giant grift, he's just shouting buzzwords and making people think they're helping something. He's fucking gross.
exactly! this is a great explanation to why this feels so off
@@darkaielit *is* a giant grift…iirc he posted a vid before he started the blocklist talking about how he wanted to find a way to gain a ton of followers. He’s using a genocide and the outrage about celebrity silence to accomplish this goal. Not to mention he himself hadn’t said shit about Gaza and when people started pointing it out and blocking *him* instead, he finally started bringing up Operation Olive Branch
@@darkaielit *is* a giant grift. iirc he had previously posted a vid about wanting to gain a bunch of followers fast. And then when people are outraged about celebs silence and a literal genocide he suddenly comes out with the blocklist to accomplish his goal. It’s disgusting…not to mention he himself hadn’t said shit about Gaza before/at the beginning of the blocklist trend and when people started pointing it out and blocking *him* instead then he started to bring up Operation Olive Branch
Bisan posted her own block list of pro-Israel or generally genocide-complacent celebrities which is what most pro-Palestinians are going off of.
Also people separating themselves from celebrity culture and worship in general seems pretty great to me.
Yeahhh I don't understand how this could possibly be a bad thing lol
correction she didn't make the block list, a pro palenstine account did and spammed her on every single slide. and she simple reposted it. and are you really taking yourself away from celeb worship if you're centering them in a "protest for palenstine"
@@godisdead7802because it's creating a larger conversation that ultimately does nothing and talking over real ways people can help.
@@godisdead7802because it's not grounded in reality and does nothing to help the cause. At all. Whatsoever. It just makes us look crazy.
Separating themselves from it? All of these people are OBESSED with celebrities. This is literally the worst part of celebrity culture.
The comparison to the 2020 black squares was so apt, I still can’t believe people thought that was a good idea 🤦🏻♀️
And now in 2024 we have Stonewall Jackson having a school renamed after him. The "reckoning" clearly did nothing for POC.
"we've found a way to unite - no talk of politics" LADY WHAT ??????
Made my heart sink! "we're uniting on nothing important or material yaaaaay"
I honestly feel like a big reason Block never brought up Gaza or really any specific issue is to prevent him from alienating is followers. Why block celebrities? Oh to unite cause of all of the bad things in the world! Which bad things? No response. You cannot have a discussion about things like this away from politics. Unfortunately calling the genocide in Gaza a genocide is a separating and political topic :(
i swear💀 i hate these freaks so much. like do they even stand for anything? if they can't be 'political' about genocide then i guess they don't
@@AKinToHumanity It is very hypocritical that there's a hesitation to speak about the Genocide from this "movement" when that's specifically why people are calling out celebrities and people with social platforms.
Like it or not almost everything is political. Americans do not understand what politics is. Because Americans are massively propagandized by state media that gets talking points from the state department and the billionaire class that own there platforms.
People love to feel like they are making a difference by doing very little.
the human mind truly is a wonder
It’s almost as if there’s not much we can do so any small thing helps ease our minds.
@@toryalynsure but there's much better things to do. Calling a representative once is far more effective than blocking 100 celebs. Donating $10 to a family trying to escape does more. Going to one protest does more. Having one conversation with family/friends about Palestine does more
doing the bare minimum and thinking they are saving people
Ugh, I wish people understood what the Met Gala was. Like hate celebrities, whatever. But the Met Gala is a museum fundraiser for the costume wing - hence the fashion show part of it w/ celebs. Should wealthy people support humanitarian causes and help the people is Gaza, yes, of course? I don't think it's a problem for them to raise funds for the arts as well though, rather than hoarding their wealth. They should be doing both. Fund the arts, fund museums so those without money can enjoy art, fund humanitarian and anti-war causes. They should do all of these things.
it’s because the media doesn’t mention that at all. if you went by just the media, you’d think the Met Gala was just a fancy party to flex on the poors 😂
@dazenguile4215 I mean is not like it's not easily available information, like if you're are putting energy on disliking something you may as well inform yourself on what it is
Do you know why they have to raise money? Because of terrible mismanagement and wastefulness on a grand scale. That's hardly something most normal people would chose to use their money on. It's nothing but a publicity opportunity for these celebrities. They could've just donated and not gone along and avoided the scrutiny, but they chose to attend. That seems like a big middle finger to those who actually care about the state of the world and not just their own optics.
@@leeprew Normal people can just visit the museum. The point of the Gala is to encourage those with money to support a museum and the arts. The fashion show element part encourages celebrities to donate, but more importantly to highlight up and coming clothing designers and show some of the costumes in the museum. If you don't like the event or find it a bit gauche, that's fine and your prerogative, but the point isn't a sinister venture. It's just a yearly art museum fundraising dinner with a fashion showcase.
Should they also donate to other humanitarian causes? Yes! But these aren't really related things.
It looks bad from the outside given what is happening. Didn't help with the theme they chose. If anything is depicts celebrities as living in a different reality than the rest of us do and that's true in a way
I hate this performative action or “I’m raising awareness” to a cause without any true meaningful action. Blocking someone who you don’t engage with isn’t action. Listing a charity is pretty bare minimum action. Giving support, attention, and possibly money to journalists and boots on the ground people as well as directly targeting positions of power such as your local senator will help bring about vastly more change.
It's not even raising awareness for an issue, it just promotes the idea of issues existing at all
Small correction! Celebrities tickets are paid for by bigger agencies. Not that this extravagant use of money and platform power is any less gross at a time like this.
No individual celebrities (afaik) are paying the $75k on their own
I think that goes without saying ngl
@vitaminwater9662 why?
I mean, in a way, that makes it absolutely worse? Because all of these celebrities who COULD theoretically afford to go to this extravagant dinner apparently get to go on someone else's dime.
You're telling me they wasted a bunch of money on a frivolous fancy dinner AND they didn't even have to shell out the cash for it themselves? Like fuck each and every one of them lol
@keppakappa5033 for most of the celebrities there, I don't think $75k even means much to them anymore. I think that's the most disturbing part
@@msjkramey Because celebrities are products. If they show up at a promoted event then it's only because they are paid to be there; The only things they spend their actual money on are drugs, big houses, stolen cultural artifacts and thousands of acres of land that they will never set foot on.
This makes me feel so goddamn old.
Just stop putting anyone you don't really know on a pedestal. Research charities before donating and if possible prioritize giving your time/work/goods over money.
Amen!
So I'm 5 minutes into the video and the blockout tiktok guy hasn't actually mentioned Palestine once? He just says "they need to use their platforms for good" or "there's a lot that's wrong in our world" but hasn't actually mentioned any of the topics celebrities should be raising awareness for
Edit: ok literally 10 seconds after I unpaused the video Ethan made that exact point I guess I prewatched or smth
Peethan fans watch the video before commenting challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
can’t talk too much shit tho I do this too 🙃
They started blocking him too for this reason actually 😂
i cant stand listening to him scream at the top of his lungs in every video
@@itsflyde I'm sorry I'm way too ADHD ridden to wait 30 seconds 😭
‘Fuck you for making me defend drake’ is the funniest thing I’ve heard all day
“It’s working” - people who don’t know how literally anything works
A celebrity who was silent sharing palestinian go fund me's. Come the fuck on man. Sounds like you are out of touch if you can't see that's doing something.
When I first saw people blocking celebs I thought it was for Palestine and was like "cool, block 'em" but it really seems like it's been a mess of... people just blocking celebs they don't like? There's no unified cause so it's kinda pointless. I think at the end of the day the celeb blocks are just a way for people to air out their frustration in general. (I do believe we need to stop idolizing celebs but this is something else)
Seeing all this kinda drives home how important it is for boycotts and protests and other ways of making an issue known to be ORGANIZED with a clear purpose. Otherwise you end up with...this. It just kinda comes off as an ambiguously intentioned tantrum.
YEAH EXACTLY
All of it is completely pointless.
I get all my life advice from TikTok. I even built my own house out of cut up plastic containers and hot glue. People say it's just a pile of trash I cut a hole into but they don't have the beach side view that I have
Um, you do realize that you can't believe everything you see on tiktok, right?
@@joshuabuchanan1141 the original comment was joking
yeah this shit was so strange. Like no, Kim Kardashian isn't losing money by me, who has never interacted with her socials at all, doing a block.
I’ve never followed her on anything. I’ve been doing this block thing before it was cool.
/s
I'm fully invested in the evolution of this hair style ngl
Same actually. It’s so good rn????
This is just what an AI would generate when you type "nondescript politically neutral Activism"
Nondescript politically neutral activism refers to a type of activism that is not easily identifiable or characterized by a specific political affiliation or agenda. It involves individuals or groups who engage in activism without aligning themselves with any particular political ideology or party. These activists may focus on issues that are not inherently political, such as environmental conservation, social justice, or community development. Their aim is to promote positive change and make a difference without being explicitly tied to a specific political stance.
15:47 "when you block their content, they start pushing you their ads."
no babes.. you're getting their ads because you WENT TO THEIR PAGES 😭
in the eyes of the unfeeling algorithm, all interaction is good interaction.
Blocking is meant to remove random unknowns or regular people in one's life for whatever reason.
Blocking public figures is so redundant because the public figure never knew any of their followers personally, doesn't make money solely from followers, and it mostly just reinforces the same celebrity obsession since people are still tuning in to celebs after blocking them.
When we boycott as an organized thing, it's to force concession from the public figure, not to try to erase the public figure (since normal, productive protestors know that's pretty unrealistic). Change is incremental.
Yeah anyone who knows how things work would know this, which sadly is very few people. It was 100% because you went to the pages of multiple Kardashians
also they keep saying their names in posts and its like yeah of course you're gonna get them pushed on your page by the algo, it tracks what words are in posts! it tracks your tags! if you're tagging celebs and typing out their names, it's gonna push things about them to your account! and none of these people grasp that's how social media functions, somehow.
Even if every celebrity, company and otherwise rich person is blocked by every single person on every social media platform, what then? These people had no issue making money before social media existed, they sure as hell would have no trouble with it if social media was unuseable for them.
Yup and let's not forget 40% of celebrities are not even on social media.
why do all of block's points sound like a middle school essay?
There's a Patton Oswalt joke about how you can tell George W. Bush was evil and not stupid, based on his speeches. As it goes, Bush only sounds stupid when he's trying to pretend to be a normal person, or comfort the nation. When he's threatening the Middle East and swearing vengeance for the WTC, he's always measured and articulate. The same way that Darth Vader would sound stupid pretending to fawn over a puppy, but if you ask him what he's gonna do to Alderaan, one of the best villains in cinema.
Basically, some mediocre white guy with obvious reactionary leanings has all the same thoughts and feelings about modern celebrity culture as all the other chuds online. He *knows* that he needs the figleaf of moral superiority to wrap his resentment in if he wants to constantly rant about famous people without admitting he just envies the attention and comfortable material conditions, but he's also not good at it.
Outside of the two or three right-wing charities he found out about from some Koch-funded shill, he only knows just enough about activism to talk about it the same way Steve Carrell talks about "relations" in "The 40 Year Old Virg*n", to similar results.
Tired of performance activism. None of that shit matters. None of it changes anything. It just scratches that itch in your brain that makes you think you're doing something to help.
right? blocking Kim Kardashian isn't doing shit for the genocide in Gaza. If anything, it's taking the focus off of it.
This sorta of thing *could* work *if* 1) It was well organized and sectioned and had one central, easy-to-follow list made by ONE group of people who know what they're talking about, and 2) Everyone knows that this isn't the only thing folks should be doing; attend protests and donate to charities and donate e-sims and contact your reps and/or whatever else you can in addition to the blocking, not block and call it a day. Just needs a solid group of lists like how BDS does it
Option 1 obviously doesn't work - no matter the structure or org behind it, option 2 is the better choice
@@-xxMelissaxx- I don't disagree. I'm glad people are passionate I just want their passion to be directed with a purpose and a goal.
it’s rlly funny how the blocking celebrities trend has people think they’re doing something when in reality they’re literally giving celebrities more attention by talking about them lol
Just block them and move on. Celebrity culture needs to stop.
did you watch the video
@@RainykelYep. He is pointing out that this movement doesn't have clear goals, that people that started it are weird with questionable points and that the movement has not a clear plan of action.
Block celebrities, keep donating if you can, vote, go protest if you can. That's it.
Right
@@Rainykel Did YOU? He never said don't block them. Divesting from celebrity culture is just good in general
Will we need to go off the grid in order to "divest from celebrity culture"? Asking for a friend.
I thought this idea had potential at first so i joined in, but it quickly spiraled. Theres just no organization whatsoever. Thanks for talking about this!
Even if this movement was well-organized with very specific goals in mind it would be extremely ineffective. Getting a celebrity to talk about Palestine doesn't benefit anybody, this is a major ongoing international news story that everyone knows about and is actually difficult to avoid. It's not some Niche issue that needs the attention of Taylor Swift, it's not like she has the ability to stop the nation of Israel from doing a genocide.
same here. i blocked most of the people i saw on an instagram anti zio list, but ended up findind many accounta after that who were suggesting blocking people for no reason. very loose idea yeah
idk if you bring this up, but a lot of times celebrities have contracts and are bound by laws on what they can and can not post. a lot of celebrities don't even run their own social media. i was buddies with someone who ghost wrote tweets for [redacted] and there were a shit ton of stipulations on what they could write, down to word choice.
The miss Americana doc I think was intended to highlight how controlled not just Taylor Swift, but celebs in general are. They aren’t solely in control. Like any business there are investors and such who are very concerned about avoiding controversy and continuing to make money. Unfortunately, being pro Palestine isn’t the dominant position in the US right now, so they see risk, and aren’t going to let the celebs say anything
6:16 The biggest crime of this “activism” might have been this guy lumping a national treasure like Hank Green together with TIM BALLARD wtf
Unnecessary quotes
my thought exactly. nothing else in the video bothered me as much lol
for real. like leave Hank out of this he didn't ask for this lol
hank green is literally a fence sitter until recently when he was called out for his lack of pro-palestine support, and even then he couldnt say it was a genocide. your heroes are propaganda mouth pieces. the real heroes are in Gaza.
People were calling to block Jennifer Lawrence while making Hunger Games quotes as well. Like if you're truly boycotting celebrity and Hollywood as a concept, you can't reference, talk about, or watch movies, consume music, or any entertainment ever again. You're entertainment has to be primarily activist content, and its fair to say no one doing that signed up for that or was willing to go that far in changing their life for this.
Lizzo made that vid because she was dragged for a now deleted vid she made that was essentially like “you need to stop pressuring celebs because we don’t have power”
...and was she wrong? tf is lizzo going to say that will make so much as even the most miniscule of differences?
@@renata-tsekhanovetskayaspread awareness with her giant ass platform?? 💀 get more people looking at important things??
@@renata-tsekhanovetskayado you know how much money these motherfuckers have
@@renata-tsekhanovetskayashe literally has a successful business attached to her name people listen her you have power when millions of people listen to you.
@@renata-tsekhanovetskaya no yeah I agree. I do think they have power as far as making it more known to, like, normies and stuff, and like more awareness and there is power in that. But otherwise no, yeah, I agree. Just call your reps and continue to bug them, honestly, and do actual organizing and following good orgs and stuff.
omg the generic Excel line chart with absolutely no context or labels is sending meeee 💀
They didn’t even change the default color scheme😭
EXACTLY I WAS DYING
This is why you should always do ACTUAL activism instead of internet "activism". Protest, spread the word, and vandalize. Don't cry injustice online, scream injustice out the window with a rage.
minimizing online activism is understandable if its pointless work fone by able bodied people for laughs, but the people who are disabled and arent able to do the traditional activism that are constantly informing and boosting hundreds of palestine voices and videos is super important. especially on a platform that is so heavily censored like tiktok.
sorry but i'm not gonna get arrested for advocating for peace, i'm sticking to environmentalism and raising funds for charity buddy.
@@foxpro3002 then you'll continue to be unheard. Violence and terror. That's how you get your point across. Anything less is being part of the problem.
@@graymarch666 unfortunately "violence and terror" tend to get innocent people killed and I'd rather stay silent than be complicit in someone else's death.
Thank you for finally talking abt this social media fake activism 😭
Blocking politicians seems like a bad way to be political
I think the most absurd thing about this is the implication that mainstream famous celebrities make their income off of... not being blocked by random people online?
They make their income off our attention. Blocking is just a first step of taking your attention and money away from them. You have to also stop seeing their movies, concerts, etc
@@toryalyn You don't need to block them to take your attention off them. I never see big celebrities on social media directly simply because I never cared to interact with them. Actually boycotting their product output is a more worthy goal, but you don't need to block them to do that. The focus on the act of blocking (something they don't see, as far as I'm aware" seems to be more about a personal sense of smugness to mark that you don't care about them.
Just btw the met happens because the fashion department fo the museum has no funding and have to fundraise.which sucks
so glad to see more vids and more creators talking about Palestine
Why? Not being sarcastic, I'm actually wondering?
@@billblaski9523I think it helps educate their audiences who might not be aware/care much about what’s going on. Personally I didn’t even know what was happening in Palestine until Noah Samsons first video about it
@billblaski9523 for the same reason as @Karma_the_witch has said as well as, alot of media just doesn't fairly, or accurately cover what is actually happening. with a genocide going on, alot of people have the space to speak up on these issues but just don't. It's also said it's not their responsibility but I couldn't imagine sitting and doing nothing if I had a fraction of the influence they do. The Creators for Palestine that has also been started is amazing to see. With governments funding death with our money, and then the press not even covering it properly is dystopian as hell. It's only the press themselves on the ground in Gaza sharing on tiktok etc that we can see what is actually happening, and we should all be encouraging each other to speak up and educate ourselves on these issues and I have a new appreciation for Ethan consistently calling out bullshit like this block out
@@eloisemcloughlin917 so Palestine are the good guys and Israel the bad guys?
@@billblaski9523Because comments like yours still exist
I still don’t see how blocking Zendaya is doing ANYTHING to help the people of Gaza. She couldn’t stop the war if she tried. I never followed her in the first place, so why go out of my way to find her account just to block her?
Because she's a young woman and hating young woman/girls has become normal in this sick society.
People started unfollowing bts because they were “silent” about this issue even though they ARE IN THE MILITARY! And HAVE been pro Palestine. These people do no research about who they block and it does nothing because of that. It just seems like a way for them to take their jealousy out on celebs and influencers. Too surface level and performative to have a big enough impact/ work. Just continue to protest, donate, and speak out.
were they? didn't know. when did they mention that?
@@ainomerlin I don’t know exactly when but some members taehyung, namjoon, etc posted some pro Palestine artwork on their instagram stories. Keep in mind they are in the army and can’t do much as of right now 🤷♀️ I’ve heard they donated but I haven’t confirmed it
@@StinkyF oh ty! i don't check Instagram so don't even know what's happening there
i don't really keep my eye on them and their actions for a long time now im not really interested in that so ig
but ty)
EXACTLY and BTS always donates to causes like they donated a lot money to the BLM movement when no one had this type of energy towards it like they did with Palestine, 😭 and to be blocking BTS is wild since they actually worked and deserve everything they have , these are just plain bitter ass people
This guy heard "attention = money" and then he just... didn't look any further into it.
No his primary point is that this movrment isn't helping anyone
No awarness for real problems
No fundraising towards beneficial causes
No substancial consequences for celebrities that are actually bad aside from losing a few followers which won't hurt their wallets at all considering how wealthy they are
It's a pointless movement with no real target or intended effect other than the arbitrary lose of followers for celebs which will just be ignored
the amount of people that think the met gala is just… a display of wealth with no real value… oh it makes me so ANGRY as someone who studies history specifically fashion history
it’s upsetting because it’s so expensive, when they could have been giving money toward familys in gaza. or a homeless shelter. OR ANYTHING HELPFUL!!!! not just a pretty dress.
Right. I don't give a care about fashion. But it IS for charity. And just because it isn't a cause you care about, doesn't make it not important.
what you are doing here is "what about-isms" and it isn't helpful.
@@-xxMelissaxx- no, it's not "whataboutism" - this movement is specifically targeting the Met Gala, and the commenter is defending the Met Gala. Actually, the blockout movement is engaging in "whataboutism" by criticizing the Met Gala: "why should we support the Metropolitan Museum of Art, what about Palestine?"
@@wasavi8367the pretty dresses are often a collaboration between stylist and celebrity that benefits both and nobody pays. Celebrity gets to wear the dress and get attention, dress gets worn by somebody famous and promises the designer - “who are you wearing”. If you’re hearing about money it’s probably estimated value rather than actual money speny
Shouldn’t you just be happy that the newer generation is breaking free of celebrity gossip? 😅
Fingers crossed that it sticks. There's plenty of genuine good reasons why it's just good for people to distance themselves from mainstream celebrity media, but the vids shown here make me wonder if, when this hype dies down a bit, most of the people who participated are just gonna go "wait why did i do this again???" because they weren't given/didn't give themselves any substantial reasons or goals for it and will just bounce back to where they were before.
If they don't, though, and this just becomes the norm, then net positive imo.
I know this isn’t the main point, but how are they going to confirm that celebrities are supporting “the cause?” Unblock them? Ask someone who hasn’t blocked them? Wait for the press release???
Didn't this also try to happen in 2020 with the BLM protests? Then that wave fizzled out and now with Palestine it's happening again. But I feel like I remember this being one of the reasons the whole "cancel" movement really popped off(along with MeToo) which I thought was known that didn't work. Agree that this is just for self satisfaction and nothing more than a convenient, comforting nonactivism distracting and taking energy away from the issue at large. Free Palestine
A pro pali who is very smart and mature unlike 90% of them?? A pro pali who knows the whole celebrity blockout and "movements" other pro palis are doing is just performative and not helping the issue?? Omg! I worship youuu
If anything, this should be a wakeup call about the doomstate of ads. "I blocked them but I'm seeing their ads" you mean they're tracking who you interact with, regardless of if its negative, and now you're getting targeted advertisements? Gee, that sounds like the bigger issue here.
Also why is he disproportionately calling to block famous women? There's definitely more famous/wealthy men in the world with lots of influence, but 2/3 of this list is powerful women who inspire other women, interesting
I'm so so tired of the performative activism online. When commenters were ragging on influencers to talk about Palestine it didn't make sense to me. All it does is let Sue from Toledo feel like she did something because she commented on a Tik Tok and that lessens her own anxiety. It doesn't actually do anything.
Even if every influencer talked about it, what power do they have? Even the celebs. What power do they have?! They are not the government ffs
I'm so glad I stopped using tiktok ages ago, this thing just feels so incredibly hollow. Nothings gonna change by blocking a couple of celebrities, how many times now has this whole "lets boycott x" thing happened now? How many times was that "working/actually making a difference" because nothing has changed in the long run. I just wish people stopped this social media activism it helps no one.
fr, tiktok sparks the more absurd shit i swear
I feel like performative online activism is a symptom of disenfranchisement. Growing up in the States we're taught over and over again that this is a democracy and it's good because regular people have a choice in how the country is run. But then we grow up and we see that it doesn't actually work that way, and that people we vote in will lie for votes or ignore what their voters clearly ask for. Since people feel like voting isn't making a material difference, they seek some other way to feel like they're making an impact, be it performative activism or shaming people for buying from some specific brand or any number of other things you see people online get really worked up over.
I've never followed them so if I search them now even to block them I think it would be in their favor
I too am against bad things
Lizzo is actually doing good by talking about the situation in Congo. It’s really messed up there right now.
She is only doing that to deflect the heat she is currently getting for worker abuse allegations
@@firstnamelastname816real but at least shes doing something right for once
I started blocking celebrities not due to my own disdain for them but more as a means of morality. I do not wish to contribute funds to celebrities that I do not morally align with. I also think that diminishing the viewing celebrities as false idols is good in and of itself
New plan: delete socials, go talk to your neighbors.
lol lets see if they would do that which i doubt
this blocking celebrites "protest" is'nt actually helping with anything that happens around the world or donating to real charites to help people around the world that are suffering and it's in poor taste similar when people decided to put black squares for black lives matter on instagram
It's always confusing to me why people think not buying mcdonalds or blocking Beyoncé is doing anything for Palestinians.
The only way these boycotts woyld even work is if EVERYONE knew the goal and EVERYONE participated.
At the most, it's just performative activism.
Aside from everything else, I don't mind fewer people giving attention to or pedestalizing celebrities. Down with celebrity worship culture
I was like... "okay, this is clearly just misguided" and then the operation underground railroad reference, was like "oh no, my guy. oh no..." because his choices are shallow and lack all critical thinking.
Blocking politicians is like, 10x worse too. If anything you need to pay MORE attention to what they do, bills they support or vote against, so you know who to vote for when the time comes, idk much about the American voting system but it seems like blocking them helps politicians control your life more since now theres no pushback??
And the district 12 stuff is so corny like, you're in the suburbs. People are being bombed and living in actual poverty, being starved to death.
i'm so glad you also used this as a chance to talk about gaza instead of just critiquing the movement. i've seen so many people critique the movement in valid ways on tiktok while not talking about gaza, and i feel like going about it in that matter just causes there to be more disasociation from what the actual issue is. great video
This. The core of why everything is happening is first and foremost important.
When you search performance activism, and it's just a picture of Mr Blocky
Imagine following what mainstream celebrities have to say, beyond paying attention to when concerts are announced or whatever.
It gets people feeling good so they can say they did something that didn't make them uncomfortable. Or maybe they could focus on calling congressman. But that would require real work.
blocking celebrities because it’s “controlling their income”
-ineffective
-motives unclear
-does not help Palestine
blocking celebrities bc you’re done hearing from them:
-based
-motivated by celebrities being bad
-also does not help Palestine but at least it doesn’t pretend to
I've also seen a few creators on tiktok talk about how this blockout movement needs to get their goals straight. If it's about trying to pressure celebs to speak out/act in support of Palestine, the next step should be to unblock them en masse when they do, because otherwise there's no incentive for them to actually do anything.
If it's just because you don't want to engage with their content, then that's fine, but at least have the decency to also donate and share pro-Palestine content.
This is a factor to consider, yes
Its funny how the pro palis bashes on celebrities because of a sound Hallee used and how they didnt speak up about Gaza when majority of them don't even post about Gaza or other issues let alone donated.
Also. I havent heard of Kim or and Kardashian in like a couple months. Now im hearing their names everywhere because of the blockouts. Its ironic.
Ive heard about this a few times in the light that it is going to do something but I never understood how it could,.. its good that we’re changing how we think about celebrities but this feels like in a year or so we’ll look back and go ‘Hmm remember when we all thought blocking some musicians would fix world problems?’
i'm glad that an youtube creator like ethan spoke and talk about how this social media "protest" is'nt actually about donating and people that are selfaware about what sadly happens around the world including wars or anything awful , instead of blocking celebrites which does nothing , how about actually get up an donate around the world to chararites , people should'nt put the blame on celebrites
Fr, they put the wrong energy on the wrong people when it should be politcans
@@pusheenmochi719 exactly
i just hate that everyone ended up centering celebrities AGAIN with this movement instead of the people above them who are our real enemies
I'm so glad that you're tackling this. I keep seeing it on Tumblr, and it sounded like bullshit. I don't follow many celebrities in general, but I was just thinking that it's kind of unfair. My favorite band is on tour right now, so, naturally, they're posting about the tour. It all sounds like one big personal grudge against certain people blown out of proportion.
Ethan is outside channel when
Block celebrities because celebrity culture is unhealthy. I don’t really think we can ask everyone to always be up on every issue we find important. Decent action from questionable motivation.
truth
I never knew this was started by one guy-have never seen his account before and have only ever seen the blockout as it relates to direct action for Palestine, thank god
Still this is incredibly frustrating because it feels like a distraction more than direct action of any kind. Block whoever you want, but this guy seems like he just wants clout and will weaponize peoples outrage to get it.
Ironically, the "block list" goal of not centring celebrities and focusing on RealIssuesTM just Centers celebrities and doesn't really focus on the issues. Like I understand the sentiment but there are no goals (is it to pressure them to use their influence & money? because if people change to talk about them, people say it's too late) and seems to be just a way to morally hate on celebrities you don't like (because the people that make the list are random and especially POC celebrities are being held to different standards. I mean GIGI Hadid was on the block list, like she was quite literally singled out by the Israeli government for how outspoken she was & was doxxed/received threats on her life.)
The movement before this, when people were sharing actual tangible ways to help (ie. operation olive branch) was actually helpful. Now that's taking a backseat for this. It kind feels like a psyop, ngl. I'm not saying don't block, block away. Just this posting about it and making it a "trend" seems less about the issues and more about you making yourself feel better
Im so happy Pee is talking bout this I was hoping he would
I get so frustrated with some of the Hunger Games references because they all seem so hyperfocus on the aesthetics. Like yeah, I guess they kinda look like people from the capitol but like the Hunger Games has some WAY more important takeaways 😅
If the blockout was about palestine, then people would be cheering on lizzo to encourage more celebrities to speak out 🤷
I could have blocked so many celebrities instead of watching this.
I feel bad for Celeb 3, they called for a cease fire.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The celeb blockout thing is 100% for people who want to feel like they're doing something without actually having to. This energy could be put into things like clicks for Palestine where actual donations are made to help Palestine, but doing that doesn't allow them to "call out" celebrities they didn't like to begin with. It's also very telling how much of it is "um sorry but your fave is actually ✨problematic✨ and you shouldn't support them" instead of "here is what's going on in Palestine and here is how you can actually help."
The blockout guy looks identical to a guy I went to high school with and it's really bothering me that I don't know if it's actually him
That’s because he looks like a very generic American white frat boy, he also looks familiar to me and I am from Canada lol
I do like how it seems to be reminding people with strong parasocial relationships that these celebs are not their friends. Ive seen a few people goong oh yeah, this person doesnt know i exist or really deserve my undying loyalty
How is being sick of celebrities a bad thing? I understand that we need a more precise movement for certain goals, but there’s nothing wrong w being fed up w celebrity culture as a whole. I’m tired of looking at people living in extravagance while the people I really empathize w are suffering.
literally _at best_ it'll make the celeb feel a little self conscious, and then they'll move on with their day
Funny enough, this guy is also being blocked. He’s suspected to be doing it for views, suddenly he has a bigger jump in viewership compared to earlier content.
"Fight back your oppressors"... gurl... youre on Instagram
i genuinely don't know if this is a massive joke that went way too far. The guy who started it is just... Out there.
The lack of a clear and obvious goal is the same reason the OccupyWallstreet thing failed and fizzled out. It had no clear direction or plan. Blocking awful celebrities and companies is good, but ultimately, this isn't going to accomplish anything since those companies and celebrities don't have any hard demands to meet.
If you want to actually help get organized, join organizations like the DSA, google pro Palestinian protests near you and go to them, donate to orgs like UNRWA. Finally call your representative every week and tell them what horrors they are inflicting on the world. Get involved, get active, make change part of who you are.
The real thing that solidified this movement as idiotic for me, was seeing people on TikTok say to block Bella Hadid… these people have no actual goal, and are literally just blocking indiscriminately. I’m all for blocking whoever you want, go wild, but to act like it’s some sort of online revolution is crazy.
I've noticed this only really works if you were paying attention to these celebrities in the first place. I already wasn't, so blocking them doesn't do much but i went ahead and did it just incase they ever did showup, it's not like they were there in the first place. I'm glad to see people that were already in celebrity culture step out of it, i just figured this was already a thing people would know given they've always shown their true colors time and time again. I feel like the discussion should really just be "hold these people accountable, and if you already liked these people and gave them attention, stop doing that" / stop giving celebrities the time of day 💀
I mean I guess I can agree to a certain degree (aka treating anyone with too much unearned praise is weird) but I also feel like it's kind of a narrow minded take. For instance what counts as celebrity culture? I honestly don't follow celebrities on any social media accounts (except for some UA-camrs, on UA-cam). I have never liked a celebrity Instagram post in my life because I honestly don't care what they are doing in their day to day lives (unless I know something extremely unsavory about them, in which case I try to avoid them, like say Woody Allen).
That being said I sometimes listen to Taylor Swift, I don't care about her personal life but a lot of her older music I can easily play in a childcare setting. Movies also have celebrities in them, is it celebrity culture to enjoy an actors performance? If I have an author I really enjoy is it celebrity culture to follow their career for their next book?
I don't know how in a world with art like movies, TV shows, books, comedy, ECT there could be truly no celebrity culture. I agree that we should be more mindful about our own personal attachments to random people we don't know, but I think at it's base it's pretty harmless.
I also think that the debate about celebrity culture and parasocial relationships is not helping anyone in Gaza. It's fine to have that conversation but I think it does nothing for Thai specific cause.
It’s like they’ve never seen the block button before and are now spamming it bc it’s a new toy they can play with
They took the term "attention economy" a little too literally bc the actual economy has very little to do with internet platforms