Guys, Please don’t comment that “We weren’t ready” or “Didn’t leave a like because you don’t understand the song” This is our channel. We do this for fun. We react to what we want to react to & we are loving Nightwish at the moment so we’ve reacted to this. We have nothing but respect for the Nightwish Army, but some of you are really letting down the NA & putting a negative experience on a Nightwish video. For the ones that have left nice comments/constructive feedback, WE SEE YOU & WE LOVE YOU 🤘💜
well, thats the internet, these people will be everywhere. And you are right, its your channel. So do it your way. Gabriels list ist just a guideline or a red thread to guide, if youre not know what to react to. and i think you mean a siren, its a mythycal creature that lures sailor with his/her enchanting singing to shipwreck their ships. so normaly sirens are evil creatures, but i think you only mean the enchanting part :D. and a mermaid is generally just a mythycal fish/woman creature thats known in many cultures. with that in mind, have a nice day :) I forgot, nice reaction for not knowing the backstory ;) but im sure, the others will have already informed you about everything "important":)
As long as you have an open comment section there will be comments, that you do not agree with or that offend you. Most them, however, are people who are interested in your opinion as well, not just interested voicing their own. Of course you do what you want. And your viewers will probably do the same (unless you block them). So hopefully, See you again!
Don't pay to much mind to a few over-zealous types. You enjoyed the song and that's what counts, to be honest it can be entertaining to watch people trying to figure out what the song is about anyway. I think you got the emotion behind the song even if you didn't know the meaning.👍🙂
Nice reaction Some of the best reactions for this song that I have seen have been by people not knowing the story behind the song........and some get lost in it..........Its OK either way. Unfortunately some think you must do a certain order of reactions, I prefer a varied approach as you get a good mix of reactions as they find there way through the varied mix of Nightwish music.
That part is SO beautiful and makes my eyes Wet everytime. Especially when knowing the story behind the song. Floor and Marko are magical together. This is a MASTERPIECE !! ❤️❤️
I think it's fine to listen to this without knowing the backstory. It's a good way to experience the song, and then you can listen to it again and have a fully different experience.
I think it really doesn't matter knowing the backstory or not. That's the beauty of art. You can give it your own backstory. And the way @GamersInked did it was a good way. You can always look into the backstory and listen to the song again.
I think it's nice to see react people to this song without any information in front and experience for themselves what feelings this masterpiece give them. I also like to see them react to it with the full story behind all of this, with lyrics, because that must be a total new experience. Good job guys. Like to see you reacting.
“That’s one of the great things about music. You can sing a song to 85,000 people and they’ll sing it back for 85,000 different reasons.” - Dave Grohl So much truth to this.
It’s a long story, but it was tuomas’s struggle with depression of having to fire Tarja the original old Singer. Tuomas is the keyboard player and headfounder of the band and pretty much write all the music. Im sure you Will get the longer story from others. Have Fun with the nightwish journey, it’s long but Fantastic 😉
This is one of the best songs ever written and for me the best song of Nightwish anyway. It doesn’t matter if you know the background or not. I didn’t know the background of the song for a long time but I love the song since I heard it first. I like your reactions, because is a pure reaction to the song and the music and no more…. Thank you therefore.
I love this song, so beautiful. This is so well composed 🎶 The story and the music. ❤️ Tuomas a genius, everything he Makes is becomes gold 💫 The whole band completes it, With this beautiful music It is very emotional 😢 At the end, Marko and EMPPU go to Tuomas and support their friend, That's brother love 💙💙💙 The poet and the pendulum, takes approximately 14 minutes. The most beautiful song I've ever heard. Thank you nightwish 💥🔥🤘 Thank you so much Love from the Netherlands 🇳🇱 🌷 🇳🇱 🙋🏼♀️ 😘
I know you got the ... " You should have done research!" comments. Ignore them. What you gave was a great reaction to a song you knew nothing about. The music and verse carried you through the emotions. I could see it on your faces as certain parts came in. Now that you know the back story, go back and watch it again. There is a version with the lyrics as well. It gets even more emotional when you see what they are saying. This song makes me cry every time.
I don't think the majority of Nightwish fans are "upset" if a reactor doesn't do the background research before watching this song. Rather, to us fans, once you know the history behind the song, it just takes on such a greater emotional feeling. And we just want you to experience that too. But you're right, it is your channel, so do as you please, that makes you happy! :)
awesome reaction. This piece has a very special place in my life. I know the back story but this piece is also an anthem for those people with mental health issues such as depression with suicidal thoughts, Yep I am one of those! Also in the Pit and the Pendulum Poe talks about the point at which you both give up hope and accept the end, which you really get the sense of in this. If I may I would like to give you my interpretation of the lyrics and what they mean to me. The first part, which you note starts with the words the end!! Is taken from Stephen Kings Tower series, the white lands were the home of a type of vampire that fed on emotions, (empathy), so a person left feeling nothing, empty and without emotion. In the second part, those lines expressing a feeling of futility, all same old same old yet, hating how you feel, then the verse seems to express the effort of trying to pretend to be ok, hence those two faces, one for everyone else and the real one that is private, no one to turn to for help as the people around you seem as upset as you so no shoulder to cry on so you just carry on pretending becoming that whore for the cold world. Then there is the remembering back to when all was good, yet you cannot get there despite everyone telling you “you are ok, it will be fine” till those words just sink you even further into the mess. Then we have the Pacific, oh wow, the wishing and planning stage, the beautiful sea, just wishing it was over, that you could be under the waves, beneath the pain tucked into that beauty., last goodnight kiss and a valentine that ends everything. Then that part that starts with being afraid, being raped, not in the traditional sense but feeling violated, alone and bloody scared, For Tuomas, feeling that those who he felt should have been there for him somehow betrayed him, a not uncommon feeling with severe depression, feeling that even life betrayed you, also again the mention of the tide and drowning, many see it as the perfect death! On a side note here, three minutes and counting, yep exactly three minutes to the point that Tuomas simulates the blade. Here also note how the music becomes chaotic, mirroring the thought process of someone planning their own death, no logic, well there is but only to the individual. Yet also a sense of excitement and of a journey, proceeding the calm. Then the passion play, traditionally passion plays were performed at Easter and were about the death of Christ, and Tuomas plays with us a little here, “second robber to the right of Christ! Well at the crucifixion there was only one robber either side of Christ but in the painting The Last Supper the person second to the right of Christ is Judas!!!!! Then of course the symbolic death and the slowing faltering heartbeat. The beginning or last part of the piece are the words that brought Tuomas back from the edge. In his case words from his parents but many of us will have people who were there at just the right time and who cared enough to be the rock and love us enough to hold on. If there is a message in this work surely it is to be kind, to look out for each other and if you can be there, you never know you may just save a person’s life. As someone did mine.
It is Thomas who portrays the brake up with the first lead singer Tarja. It's great art when someone knows how to turn their emotions into music. He told that he killed himself in a song, instead of committing suicide in real live.
Hello fellow dyslexic! I been watching you guys for about a week or so! I love how organic you guys are! Don’t listen to the negative comments, what matters most is your honest reactions!!! ❤️ just a fan, Just Jen
Hey, Shannon, it's obvious that you love Floor (we all do). How about reacting to her cover of 'Shallow' done on the Dutch TV show Beste Zangers in 2019. You'll get a real good look at her up close, and she sings in an almost acapella manner. I KNOW you'll love it! ua-cam.com/video/M68pe4a_9zk/v-deo.html
We appreciate the sacrifice you make by not being able to binge on a new band that you really like. One of, if not my favorite song by them is "End Of All Hope". Though it doesn't get reacted to very often.
I have no patience for the "Nightwish Army" folks who want to dictate every reactor's whole journey. I came back into the Nightwish fold well after Floor joined and heard Ghost Love Score first, then Poet and the Pendulum. Didn't know the story... didn't change my love and respect. You guys keep doing you. Also, he's right, it was the sirens that lured sailors to their shipwreck demise.
I am a member of the Nightwish army....but I don't try to dictate the order in which you listen to their music! Me...I just jumped in and listened to every song I could find! I can recommend some of my favorites...in no particular order: Storytime Nemo Ever Dream Elan ( the official video ) Sleeping Sun Walking in the Air Last Ride Of The Day I am very fond of the above songs...but feel free to pick your own! I will watch your reaction!
Every single band has them, its annoying AF tbh. Lovebites has fans do this, Band Maid, Metallica, You name it. Some people lose their fucking minds over the tiniest things.
i cant agree more. problem is- in my humble opinion-, like nowadays the ones who do go extreme are the ones who are loudest in word/text/ etc. the NW Army i know and some for real, are absolute ok with all who hears and watch the Band, and if disagreeing with Statements just accept as normal diversity of Taste- but do not post anything or like/dislike. my oldest long time Friend and me had nightlong discussions about tarja/ anett switch and the songs 2 albums back/ forth. i still love my bro and so he do(me, not himself:D) bcs we accepted the others opinion, just didnt go into the same direction. something the internet build up is this imaginary wall, behind some think they could do anything unrespectful or intimidating etc. they want bcs no one ever will hold them in charge in the real world. sadly, their right.
The Nightwish army only points you to a direction that you may like and are well established songs. You are of course free to discard any suggestions. I am surprised at your reaction. Don't you want you friend here to reach good links to enjoy more of this? (perplexed)
Nightwish Army Germany checking in. Those damn Onion Ninjas again.... Tuck me in beneath the blue.....always gets me...every time.... This is a Masterpiece. And I think you dont need to study the complete background to find out that this one was composed by a Mastermind. The Music speaks for its own. So keep it coming...maybe "7 Days to the Wolves" from Wembley next ? Floor Jansen, First of Her Name, Queen of the Valkyries and Stonehenge, Lady of Nightwish and Protector of our Metal Realm. Long may she reign. Bow, mortal !
To understand the story you need to know the backstory. Nightwish was started by Tuomas, Emppu, and Tarja, their first singer. In 2005, after the recording of the "End of an era" dvd Tarja was fired thru a letter given to her by Tuomas, but it was a band decision. The letter was also posted on the bands homepage at the same time. Marko had told Tuomas "It's me or her". This song is about the aftermath thru Tuomas eyes. A piece in five parts. 1. White lands of Empathica.: Boy soprano. "The end, the songwriter's dead, the blade fell upon him" It's the end of an era, Tuomas feels dead inside, he was the one that handed Tarja the letter. 2. Home: "A poet without a rime, a widowed writer torn apart by the chains of hell" Tuomas got writers block, he's lost his musical "wife", his muse, and was fighting depression and doubt. 3 The Pacific: "On the shore, se sat and hoped under the same pale moon who's guiding light chose you, chose you all" If I remember it right Tuomas, Emppu, and Tarja was having a barbecue at night when they decided to start a band together. The operatic part Floor sings was originally sung by the same boy soprano who sings the intro. When Floor joined she told Tuomas that she could sing that. He decided to keep the intro but let Floor sing that part. 4. Dark passion play: This is about the reactions from fans and media where everyone blamed Tuomas even tho it was a band decision. 5. Mother and Father: Tuomas took refuge at his parents house for a while, these are some of the things they told him during that time. If you noticed in the video the two guitarists went over and stood by him for support, because they know how hard it is on Tuomas. Check out Master Passion Greed and yet Bye Bye Beautiful. These songs are continuing that story. If Poet is about feelings of Thomas in general, then Master Passion Greed are Tuomas's words to Marcelo, husband of Tarja, who in fact stealed her from the band, and Bye Bye Beautiful - are his farewell words to her.
Totally get the Darnassus reference. I have often thought the same thing but more so with the instrumental section in the middle of Ghost Love Score - has that dreamy night elf lands feel. I didn't know the back story either when I first listened to this but I also wasn't having to do a reaction in front of ppl on camera. When you listen to it alone, without distraction you can 'feel' the emotions in it even without knowing what it is all about. It's a wonderful thing that Tuomas chose to 'commit suicide' through his music and kept himself safe to eventually find peace from all the torment. Now we can all enjoy his amazing compositions - love to Tuomas and Nightwish.
This is a song about Tuomas (keyboard, composer & founder) In 2005 the band fired the 1st singer Tarja and they put an open letter out to the world why and the hatred from everyone directed at him hurt him bad and depressed him. so he wrote this as an on stage suicide to help put it behind him. . The last part (Mother & Father) are words spoken to him by his parents and the two band members that had voted to expel her "Marco & Emppu" stand next to him showing there support even after all these years.
This song is the reason why i think Tuomas is an amazing musician and composer. One of my favourite songs of all time. It's hard to choose the best Nightwish song, but this is one of them.
Man, you can tell her as much as you want, but she's somewhere in deep space listening to Nightwish, like the rest of us. Welcome to the Nightwish journey. Let's ride with the Storytime (Wacken 2013, live) 🏍
Fantastic reaction again guys, you really dove in at the deep end with this one. Most reactors take their time getting to it as it has quite the back story attached to it, but I'm glad you enjoyed it regardless.👍🤘 Essentially the song was written by Tuomas (the keyboardist who writes and composes 95% of the songs) as a kind of symbolic suicide by song after he received a ton of backlash and blame following the departure of the original vocalist, Tarja and fell into a deep depression. On top of the backlash he received was the fact that Tarja and him were also friends since childhood and obviously that would no longer be the case, which of course made it even worse. That's it in a nutshell, I'm sure someone will come along and explain it section by section in considerably more detail than I have but that's the bare bones of it. Looking forward to the next one, may I suggest "Storytime" from Wacken 2013 next?😁🤘
By the moment you guys read the backstory of this song, you will figure out everything, like pieces of a puzzle falling in the right places, and probably some tears will start to come. Search on line for the Nightwish's open letter they wrote to Tarja, explaining why she is leaving the band.
Yup the raping shocks people but isn't sexual its raping his talents as the composer and turning on him when they parted ways with the original lead singer leaving him feeling like a whore for the cold world, the death in this song is him drawing a line in the sand on depression and starting a fresh is the final act (the beginning) with the words from his parents
He's right tough .. Sirens call the sailors in .. Hence why we have the word Siren for police/fire trucks/ambulances. Although they are a species of mermaid ! I know Right :-D
You can still appreciate the epicness of this song without knowing the backstory. Knowing it does deepen the experience but its not necessary really. Forgive the fellow nightwish army, they are passionate about this band for good reason and only widh others to experience them to the max ❤
this song is quite deep and complex You can easily tell how much musical training you have when you can get this much information just from one listen without looking at the lyrics and a quick read at the back story. Indeed the song was inspired by The Pit and the Pendulum and a major depression "Tuomas" (the pianist and founder of the band) fell into after firing "Tarja Turunen" from the band in 2005 (first vocalist of the band). The five acts are: I.- White Lands of Empathica : All of the first part of the song with just the orchestra and the Soprano child singing. II.- Home: (2:41) Starts when the band joins the orchestra and ends when the cello enters 4 or 5 III.- The Pacific: (5:50) Starts with the Cello-led bridge (5:50) IV.- Dark Passion Play: (9:01) The act that gave its name to the whole album. It starts after with the aggresive violin part and goes all the way through Marko's growling, Floor's next sung part, the following chorus and the narration ending with the chorus crying "Save me!" V.- Mother and Father: (12:00) Starts with the heartbeat at and the orchestral section with the Oboe solo. comment it speaks about the protagonist reuniting with his parents in the afterlife, that's why there's a mourning oboe but Floor's voice is more soothing than mourning since she is speaking from the parents' point of view ("Be still my son, you're home…"), comforting their newly deceased son. Another fun little trivia about this song is that there are 4 officially released versions sung by different people: The Demo Version sung in its entirely by Marko since they were in the middle of auditions for Tarja's replacement available in the The Sound of Nightwish Reborn album, the Album version (Dark Passion Play) and the Live version (Made in Hong Kong… And In Various Other Places) sung by the then-vocalist Annette Olzon and Marko and the Live version at Wembley (Vehicle of Spirit) which is the one you just reviewed sung by Floor and Marko. If you compare all three different lineups they all sing and interpret the song very differently, the Demo version even has some different lyrics that are a bit harsher and were then reworked. Now for a couple more reaction suggestions: You've heard Marko growling here but if you want to hear his smoother singing voice I recommend The Islander (any live performance) and if you wanna find out if Floor can still sing after growling I recommend Yours Is An Empty Hope, also from Wembley Arena (the Vehicle of Spirit live show)
Just enjoy every thing in your way It is your way to enjoy music Don't pay attention in what others think Greetings from a " old Dutchman "who is also a NW fan and keep on going
He was right. In Greek myth Sirens were "dangerous creatures, who lured nearby sailors with their enchanting music and singing voices to shipwreck on the rocky coast of their island. It is also said that they can even charm the winds." (Wikipedia) And strangely in myth "sirens were believed to look like a combination of women and birds in various different forms" (again Wikipedia). More modern artists have pictured them basically as being just naked women.
This is one of those songs that is such a work of art that you don't need to understand a word of it or the context for why it was made to be moved to tears by it. It's such a raw emotional experience. I also listened to this one without prior knowledge of its backstory, and I still felt an intense connection with the emotions it conveys, and that made the experience of it so much more personal to me. It doesn't even matter that I knew nothing about the specific scenario it was about and my own experiences were something else entirely, I still *felt* it, I *felt* that catharsis-- and that's exactly what art is supposed to do.
Good job guys. I don’t know why there’s been any flack about your reaction. There’s many layers to their music, and I’ve only begun myself to appreciate all that goes into it. Enjoy your Nightwish journey, there is much more to discover!
The main difference between sirens and mermaids is that sirens are usually depicted as evil temptress’ that lure sailors to their deaths, while mermaids are usually depicted as peaceful, non-violent creatures that try to live their lives away from human interference.
Hi there you pair of loveable rogues, I absolutely loved your reaction to this masterpiece. The atmosphere and the energy from you guys was great very good facial expressions. I could see it in your eyes floor puts you into a trance and bam sucks you right in. So as you liked this one, I bet you are going to love Nightwishes (ROMANTICIDE), well I hope for the best for you and your channel, and I hope to see some more of your amazing Nightwish reactions very soon. All the best guys.
I've been lucky enough to have seen Nightwish live a couple of times, and I've watched literally dozens and dozens of nightwish reaction videos.. and I can tell exactly when you're going to react.. or as it's more commonly known as a Floorgasm... Your reactions are probably the most satisfying to watch.. you genuinely get it. I can't recommend highly enough that you go and see them for yourself in November /December this year..
Thanks for a great reaction to a great song. This is an extremely emotional song but you don't necessarily need to know the backstory in order to enjoy it. I'd heard it hundreds of times before I knew what it was about😕 In particular, I love how Tuomas borrowed from "The Pit and The Pendulum", a short story written in 1842 by Edgar Allan Poe. The story deals with the psychological torment of a prisoner in the Spanish Inquisition who is publicly tortured and executed for opposing the Catholic Church. He finds himself in a rat-infested, darkened room with slippery sloped floors leading to a Pit, with a swinging Pendulum above. The Pit signifies Death, the Pendulum represents Time and the sloped floors, rats and darkness symbolise Fear. The protagonist of the story opposed the Catholic Church as he was angry with God for taking away his birth mother, adopted mother and wife with plague and disease. I wonder if Toumas's anguish was caused not because he fired Tarja (the original singer) from the band, but because he felt publicly tortured and judged by his so-called fans for doing it the way he did. I believe the score was arranged into 5 separate acts to represent the 5 stages of grieving.
Early for the song but as some1 told many times, its good to know the background of this song but its not mandatory. Music always defends itself so emotions in this one are clearly noticable. I Hope u enjoyed this, and some time later when You get more into Nightwish then try to get back to this performance previously knowin the story behind it. It will kick your asses once again even more :> good luck guys and take that rabbit hole. Its a journey u never forget I promise
Although there is a serious backstory to this song, the composition and Floors singing is strong enough to catch that and make you feel the seriousness of it. And that is what I saw in your facial expressions Shannon. At a certain point your face changes from ‘happy joy joy’ to ‘wait a minute, there is something going on here’. At the end it looked like you were fighting to hold back the tears. And that is what this song does to everyone who listens to this masterpiece over and over again. I heard it at least a hundred times and I still have watering eyes. Once you know the backstory this will be multiplied by at least a factor 10. Tarja, the first singer, was loved by a lot of the fans of NW. Apparently the troubles started when Tarja met her future husband Marcelo and there were rumours that Marcelo convinced Tarja that she was the leader, the real star of the band, it was ‘Tarja featuring Nightwish’ and not Nightwish as a whole. Tuomas, Marko and Emppu accused Marcelo of greed and gold digging. Marcelo told Tarja she would be better of going solo and pushed her to do so. Sometime later she announced she was going solo and pursue a solo career. Some other rumours were that Tarja didn’t want to travel with the band anymore and that she went on tour with different airplanes or other means of transport; that she didn’t attend to rehearsals anymore; that she had become a diva. Result: the group dynamics changed. Maybe these are rumours, maybe these are facts. We will never know the truth, but they were both hurt. They knew each other from school and since the start of Nightwish. One thing for sure: there were mistakes made, from Tarja’s and Tuomas’s side, who led to the split with Tarja. Read the two letters, the one from Tuomas, Emppu and Marko: nightwish.fandom.com/wiki/Open_Letter_to_Tarja_Turunen and the answer from Tarja: nightwish.fandom.com/wiki/Open_Letter_from_Tarja_Turunen Nightwish is big in Finland and the split was national news. The fans bashed Tuomas for doing this. The criticisms were devastating. The Poet (Tuomas) and the Pendulum (the critics, “The blade will keep on descending” - the critics will never stop. “The world will rejoice today as the crows feast on the rotting poet”, “Spitting on his grave as they came”). The only way he could cope with it was ‘killing’ himself musically. And the ‘pendulum’ is still descending because all these years later some fans still blame Tuomas. There is one sentence in TPATP that hits me hard every time. “I can not cry cause the shoulder cries more”. Is it a way of Tuomas saying he will miss his childhood friend, his confidant, the one he goes to to pour his heart out and find solace? Because ‘the shoulder” (Tarja) cries more?
valkyrie's lure enemy soldiers to their deaths thru song and temptation, floor is the queen of them all they say, they are supernatual warriors, who gather soldiers after death and take their souls into the halls of valhalla where the brave live forever, the young lady has a very pleasant look to her btw
This song is the most personal song Tuomas wrote for nightwish. It all had to do with The first singer leaving the band and the feelings he had to deal with. He kills himself in this song so he can have a new start.
Hello Gamers. The song "The Poet and the Pendulum" is a 13 Minute journey through the mind and turmoil of Tuomas Holopainen after the year 2005. It was in that year the band parted with their long-time singer Tarja Turunen and had a personal falling out with her. The pain of the separation was big on both sides, and shown in this song. There is guilt for what happened, there is the responsibility that the band and Holopainen had to show towards the fans,. It was the End of an Era for them, and reason for Holopainen being lost as described in these lyrics. We can only of course to a certain degree suppose how much of these are truly Holopainen's feelings, wishes and pains - but we do know that the lyrics of Nightwish have been up to then very personal. Other songs on the album also digest this separation and falling out of the members with Turunen. However personal and "real" these thoughts are, I feel like this song definitely takes us not only on a journey with Holopainen but also into ourselves. The music underlines the emotional gravity of the song extremely well. And I believe a lot of people can actually relate to a sense of guilt and being overwhelmed that all they desired for is the safety of home and innocence. While being personal, the song can still ring true to it's listener. That's a quality Nighwish possesses in many, many more songs. The emotional journey is one we can all share and very few bands know how to put that journey into song and especially into sound as well as Nightwish does. The band remains through all it's shores and Oceans, one of my main favourites and I hold special place for the band in my musical heart. I hope you have enjoyed reading my analysis and share some of my thoughts. If you do have any comments, please feel free to let me know. And remember the beauty of interpretation is that it is subjective; we can see all and feel different things in the same song and continue to love it endlessly. Lyric analysis by Annika Hausen Greetings from the Netherlands
What a magnum opus by Tuomas. He must have been so much in for Tarja cause this kind and level of emotion burst came. I even think that the whole Nightwish is because of that connection. Songs from the very beginning up to Master Passion Greed , By bye beautiful and this all in the first Anette album. Miss Marco cause he is so awesome.
Tuomas committed suicide in this song so he wouldn't to do it for real. Now go back and listen to it again with this in mind. Most Nightwish songs don't require us to know the backstory. This one does.
@@markgriffin45 I'll have to go digging to find it, but I've listened to an early interview where he said it was about suicide. In a later interview, the one you saw, he said it was about moving on. People aren't always consistent about their memories. We think we are, but often we're not.
Tuomas did, indeed, say in an interview that this was him killing himself in a song so he wouldn’t have to in real life. The 10:20 mark in this interview: ua-cam.com/video/v65-ErfUyVM/v-deo.html
No it does not, it's a song ffs, if you have to research a song to actually enjoy it then it's a shit song. You lot need to get over yourselves. Going into listening to a song for the 1st time nobody knows what the "story" is, if it's a good song it will stand, what these 2 did is a actual honest reaction and that's a lot more than most channel's that lie about "1st time reactions "
The brilliance, nuance and mastery of Tuomas’ songwriting lyrics and composition never ceases to amaze me. 3 minutes exactly from where he says “I have 3 minutes and counting “ is when he simulates with his hand the pendulum cutting his throat.This is just an amazing piece of music art!🤘🤘
yea we could say it's from WOW but it isn't this songs is written in 5 parts is tell Tuomas history after Tarja left the band or been farewell to the band. In several occasion they say several old songs like "Child in Time" and the "Altar" the IV Part is the words Tuomas mother wrote to him
Now that you've seen some of their longer, more epic songs, I suggest you check out "I Want My Tears Back" (Buenos Aires 2019) or "Ever Dream" (Any live performance really. Believe the most popular one is from Wacken 2013.)
Sirens are monsters or demons that live on an island. So they are not mermaids. They enchant seafarers with their singing so that they can sail to their island. In doing so, they crash off the coast and die. They appear in the sagas of Odysseus and Orpheus.
So to clarify the sirens are the ones who sing and made Ulysses bind himself to the ships masts because he would otherwise be overwhelmed and follow them which would have meat he would never return home.
Summary of this story behind of the song: Prior to 1996, Tuomas Holopainen, keyboardist & founder of Nightwish didn't like Heavy Rock and Metal, always classic music such as Mozart. He studied music at Finland's top institute for music theory. Then one of his friends took Tuomas to a rock concert, I think that it was Guns N Roses for his 1st time. He loved it! One of his childhood's friends is Tarja Turunen, original singer for Nightwish also classmate at the school joined him and Emppu Vuorinen, guitarist for then acoustic project. Jukka Nevalainen, original drummer also started with the band. Tuomas wanted Nightwish to be more metal band combining his love for classic music and metal equals Symphonic Metal in 1996. In 2002, Marko Hietala, Bassist joined Nightwish until his retirement in early 2021. Then in 2005, Tarja was fired or left the band. Fans of Nightwish blamed her departure on Tuomas. He went into depression and put Nightwish on hiatus that lasted until 2007. In 2007, Nightwish hired Anette Olzon to replace Tarja as their singer. She lasted about 5 years. Then comes Floor Jansen in late 2012 or early 2013 as then band's touring vocalist for their tour. Note: This is tour that has Floor doing Ghost Love Score in Wacken's Festival in 2013. Prior to this stop, Tuomas and band were traveling in Western US for concert stops. Floor had to learn all Nightwish's songs in 48 hours. After 2013's tour, Floor Jansen became official member of Nightwish. Tuomas was contemplating on suicide during turbulent times in 2005-2007. But doing actual suicide, he wrote The Poet And The Pendulum, Tuomas committed suicide metaphorically and musically.
Fun fact of this track on how it is amazingly composed, is if you pay attention at the timeline of the song, starting at when the boy says " Now i only have three minutes and counting " the blades drop exactly three minutes later..!! 👍👍
Hey guys, dont worry about not knowing the story. Obviously you do now and I hop enhances your immersion in this song. I hope you dont let the people that are upset put you off of doing more Nightwish videos! I have really enjoyed the 2 you've done!
It's always nice to watch a neutral reaction. Of course, us, Nightwish fan are listening to this song in a different way because of the backstoy, tears are never far. But it's always interesting to see people only reacting to the song itself, and I'm sure when knowing everything about it you will watch the same video in a different way (the lyrics, the construction of the song, the way the musicians acts when they are around Tuomas, everything). Thank you for your reaction.
I would recommend listening to Nightwish - The Islander (Live At Tampere). It really is a showcase of Marko the bass player and male singer who surprised you.
Guy Elliott is the boy soprano at the start - from St Mary's Reigate Choir School. The part "sparkle my scenery" was also originally sung by a boy soprano but Floor said she could do it - Tuomas agreed and she did! Nightiwish gave Nuclear Blast a blast about the blue-ray fault - this version. The DVD version or later Blue-ray is better - timing/playback speed wise. Still, you heard it, saw it and reacted! Well done!
Nicely reacted guys. Keep on rockin with them. Always amuzing to read comments for this magical track. Honestly it's hilarious how literally many fans(part of Nightwish army?) takes the lyrics. As a result, even individual sentences have been constructed as mythical, many say truth-based fact stories. Just as people tend to make something read or heard easier for them to understand. I wonder if there is any way that the "poet" has deliberately left room for interpretation in his texts. As poets often do. 😉 Cheers from Finland 🇫🇮 🥶, the Mother Land of Nightwish 🤟😎
Hi guys! Some time ago I have ask a question to Floor Jansen. She use to makes a short videos with quick answers for her fans that they asking in comments. So my question was about World of Warcraft. Simply: have you ever play this game and what fraction you choose. She simply answered: - "For The Horde!" This is how she got my love entirely! Love her voice, love her presence and nice personality. She is really considered by many people (100% by me) as the best female singer ever.
enjoy and be honest ... a lot of people understand and know everything about the band ... the say .. just be a fan and ask what is the story or the background of a song ... they will explain it to U 2
Yup, very early to be watching this masterpiece in anyone's Nightwish journey, but as you say, its your channel, you do what you want to. This song is about such a monumental/pivotal moment in the Nightwish story, and no doubt others will fill you in on the backstory (the sacking, the open letters, the fan hate, the depression and suicidal thoughts etc etc) it contains a lot of metaphors and symbolism that it might be worth doing a bit of reading and then re-watching it so it makes more sense.
Now, do Nightwish - Greatest show on earth! You got two options, either Live from Tampere (with synchronized fireworks) or Live from Wembley (featuring Richard Dawkins)!
Late to this particular party, but as a fellow traveller on the Nightwish discovery road, I have to say they've produced some truly epic music over the years. If you're in the mood for 20ish minutes of mammoth themes set to an epic soundtrack, you might enjoy "The Greatest Show on Earth". Basically the story of evolution from the Big Bang to the present day (hence the remark about mammoth themes). I'll learn the joys of further discovery to you, but suffice to say that after I heard it the first time, my feet didn't touch the ground for about a week lol. Enjoy, folks.
This is my favourite song of all time! If you care to take the time and research it a little bit it definitely enhances the experience. If not enjoy it the way it is. 😉
Great as always guys, I recommend either "Everdream" from Wacken in 2013 or "Storytime" from Wacken 2013, both are good points to stop at next - keep up the good work!
Every time I see a reaction of this particular son immediately click it, its my favorite song ever ans to me it doesnt matter if they know or not the back story behind it, everyone has the right of experience it on their own way, there are a lot of channels and each one has its take, and never dissapoints... Nightwish to me are legendary! Incredible reaction from you guys, you seem like really cool folsks! Automatic like 👍🏼
Well...for me it was a great reaction of the both of you👍👌👍👌 even not knowing what's the background of the story but i think you will figure that out. Kind regards from the Netherlands and stay healthy ❤❤
i always say when i watch this when floor does the dutch windmill, its beastmode, i like to picture my floor jansen as alice in resident evil, after exhausting the ammo in the dual uzi handguns she pulls out a mic and does zombie headpopping belts then straight into beauty like the pacific part 3, its a fn masterpiece, hopefully you reacted to ghost love score already if so complete the nightwish holy trinity the greatest show on earth live at tampere finland
NIGHTWISH ARMY COSTA RICA DIVISION is here 🤘💀🇨🇷 Nice one guys this journey just BEGIN all the ARMY be whith you all the way try ROMANTICIDE for the next one 🤘CHEERS
She would have, if they knew the backstory. I cringe when new reactors with no knowledge of the band jump into Poet. I have noticed that commenters are much kinder than they used to be. I usually won't comment. I still haven't seen this reaction. I want to get to know them, so I'll wait.
@@randymarple9830 maybe , maybe not. It's really not necessary to know. The music/vocals tells the story good enuf. I don't like dive into any back stories or personal lives of bands/ artists. Sometimes it really destroyed the feelings i had for a song and it turned out to be not so or the back story to the artist turned me off. Music should be personal. Unlike books. (but then one colors the setting and characters to personal feelings)
Hi guys, had a bit of a break from social media but just had to click on this when it appeared on my feed. I actually like the fact that you went in at the deep end with this number - not many people do and they all get roasted for it - sure, there's a significant back story to this song which you both immediately recognised but I think it's a refreshing way to approach songs - as I'm sure many have now filled you in about the song meaning and the lyrics - I'm sure you know by now that those lyrics re. Raping etc are not to be taken literally but figuratively - like you, I was also a bit shocked by this in first listening - I've now heard this god knows how many times and I never tire of it. My song suggestion is 'Seven days to the Wolves' also from that same Wembley Concert - it's a solid banger! Keep em coming guys - more Babymetal too!! 😆
Sirens and mermaids are basicly the same being in origins a banshee screeches to announce death, mermaids and sirens lure sailors to death with their song, Its just a linguistic difference basicly
On the message, I think it is worth knowing, but it's a choice to either research it before you listen or look into it after. The experience changes when you know the meaning but this doesn't mean that you can't enjoy the song without prior knowledge. Any artwork - and this is an artwork - can be appreciated on multiple levels of understanding.
I listened to this song without knowing the backstory. it moved me. When I did the research and came back to it I had more of an appreciation for it and respect for Tuomas.
Not knowing the background is not bad.. you can have another listen later and enjoy it even more... Its an emotional song so take your time .. with the story behind it and again with the lyrics too. Nice to see you enjoying Nightwish... Keep reacting 🥰🥰🥰.. Cheers
The first singer is a male child soprano. Lovely. And a great choice for the beginning of the song. Floor just adds the yummy vocal frosting on top of the cake that the creator of the song made.
Every other day when I get back from work and I´m sitting here with my dinner, a new "Poet and the Pendulum" reaction is on. And after all this time I have to skip part 3 and 5 so I don´t cry into my food...
Guys,
Please don’t comment that “We weren’t ready” or “Didn’t leave a like because you don’t understand the song”
This is our channel. We do this for fun. We react to what we want to react to & we are loving Nightwish at the moment so we’ve reacted to this.
We have nothing but respect for the Nightwish Army, but some of you are really letting down the NA & putting a negative experience on a Nightwish video.
For the ones that have left nice comments/constructive feedback, WE SEE YOU & WE LOVE YOU 🤘💜
well, thats the internet, these people will be everywhere. And you are right, its your channel. So do it your way. Gabriels list ist just a guideline or a red thread to guide, if youre not know what to react to. and i think you mean a siren, its a mythycal creature that lures sailor with his/her enchanting singing to shipwreck their ships. so normaly sirens are evil creatures, but i think you only mean the enchanting part :D. and a mermaid is generally just a mythycal fish/woman creature thats known in many cultures. with that in mind, have a nice day :) I forgot, nice reaction for not knowing the backstory ;) but im sure, the others will have already informed you about everything "important":)
As long as you have an open comment section there will be comments, that you do not agree with or that offend you. Most them, however, are people who are interested in your opinion as well, not just interested voicing their own. Of course you do what you want. And your viewers will probably do the same (unless you block them). So hopefully, See you again!
Don't pay to much mind to a few over-zealous types. You enjoyed the song and that's what counts, to be honest it can be entertaining to watch people trying to figure out what the song is about anyway. I think you got the emotion behind the song even if you didn't know the meaning.👍🙂
Don't worry, it's just that most nightwish fans are 13 years old. They feel personally attacked when you criticize something they think is perfect.
Nice reaction
Some of the best reactions for this song that I have seen have been by people not knowing the story behind the song........and some get lost in it..........Its OK either way. Unfortunately some think you must do a certain order of reactions, I prefer a varied approach as you get a good mix of reactions as they find there way through the varied mix of Nightwish music.
Floor singing the part of Tuomas' mother, trying to comfort her son in his time of need during the final act, is magical.
The "you are home" part gets me every single time.
My favorite part of the song is that, just makes me always miss my mom =)
@@LeJavi4658 "Oh when did you become so cold?" - for me 😭
That part is SO beautiful and makes my eyes Wet everytime. Especially when knowing the story behind the song. Floor and Marko are magical together. This is a MASTERPIECE !! ❤️❤️
I think it's fine to listen to this without knowing the backstory. It's a good way to experience the song, and then you can listen to it again and have a fully different experience.
Thank you 💜
Ik denk dat je dat met elk nummer moet doen , het verhaal erachter
I think it really doesn't matter knowing the backstory or not. That's the beauty of art. You can give it your own backstory. And the way @GamersInked did it was a good way. You can always look into the backstory and listen to the song again.
I think it's nice to see react people to this song without any information in front and experience for themselves what feelings this masterpiece give them. I also like to see them react to it with the full story behind all of this, with lyrics, because that must be a total new experience. Good job guys. Like to see you reacting.
“That’s one of the great things about music. You can sing a song to 85,000 people and they’ll sing it back for 85,000 different reasons.” - Dave Grohl
So much truth to this.
This is a masterpiece. Every note, every second, every voice, every instrument has his purpose. The timing is totally insane.
Thanks !
Pretty much like everey NW song really...LOL
It’s a long story, but it was tuomas’s struggle with depression of having to fire Tarja the original old Singer. Tuomas is the keyboard player and headfounder of the band and pretty much write all the music. Im sure you Will get the longer story from others. Have Fun with the nightwish journey, it’s long but Fantastic 😉
This is one of the best songs ever written and for me the best song of Nightwish anyway. It doesn’t matter if you know the background or not. I didn’t know the background of the song for a long time but I love the song since I heard it first. I like your reactions, because is a pure reaction to the song and the music and no more…. Thank you therefore.
Wow, we really appreciate that thank you!
I love this song, so beautiful.
This is so well composed 🎶
The story and the music. ❤️
Tuomas a genius, everything he
Makes is becomes gold 💫
The whole band completes it,
With this beautiful music
It is very emotional 😢
At the end, Marko and EMPPU go to
Tuomas and support their friend,
That's brother love 💙💙💙
The poet and the pendulum, takes approximately 14 minutes.
The most beautiful song I've ever heard.
Thank you nightwish 💥🔥🤘
Thank you so much
Love from the Netherlands
🇳🇱 🌷 🇳🇱 🙋🏼♀️ 😘
I know you got the ... " You should have done research!" comments. Ignore them. What you gave was a great reaction to a song you knew nothing about. The music and verse carried you through the emotions. I could see it on your faces as certain parts came in. Now that you know the back story, go back and watch it again. There is a version with the lyrics as well. It gets even more emotional when you see what they are saying. This song makes me cry every time.
We honestly appreciate it thank you 💜
I don't think the majority of Nightwish fans are "upset" if a reactor doesn't do the background research before watching this song. Rather, to us fans, once you know the history behind the song, it just takes on such a greater emotional feeling. And we just want you to experience that too.
But you're right, it is your channel, so do as you please, that makes you happy! :)
All I can say is Buckle up Nightwish is one hell of a fantastic ride!!
Sometimes not knowing the background can be good, so you can listen to it again when you do know the background. So you get a second experiance. 😍
awesome reaction. This piece has a very special place in my life. I know the back story but this piece is also an anthem for those people with mental health issues such as depression with suicidal thoughts, Yep I am one of those! Also in the Pit and the Pendulum Poe talks about the point at which you both give up hope and accept the end, which you really get the sense of in this.
If I may I would like to give you my interpretation of the lyrics and what they mean to me.
The first part, which you note starts with the words the end!! Is taken from Stephen Kings Tower series, the white lands were the home of a type of vampire that fed on emotions, (empathy), so a person left feeling nothing, empty and without emotion.
In the second part, those lines expressing a feeling of futility, all same old same old yet, hating how you feel, then the verse seems to express the effort of trying to pretend to be ok, hence those two faces, one for everyone else and the real one that is private, no one to turn to for help as the people around you seem as upset as you so no shoulder to cry on so you just carry on pretending becoming that whore for the cold world. Then there is the remembering back to when all was good, yet you cannot get there despite everyone telling you “you are ok, it will be fine” till those words just sink you even further into the mess.
Then we have the Pacific, oh wow, the wishing and planning stage, the beautiful sea, just wishing it was over, that you could be under the waves, beneath the pain tucked into that beauty., last goodnight kiss and a valentine that ends everything.
Then that part that starts with being afraid, being raped, not in the traditional sense but feeling violated, alone and bloody scared, For Tuomas, feeling that those who he felt should have been there for him somehow betrayed him, a not uncommon feeling with severe depression, feeling that even life betrayed you, also again the mention of the tide and drowning, many see it as the perfect death!
On a side note here, three minutes and counting, yep exactly three minutes to the point that Tuomas simulates the blade.
Here also note how the music becomes chaotic, mirroring the thought process of someone planning their own death, no logic, well there is but only to the individual. Yet also a sense of excitement and of a journey, proceeding the calm.
Then the passion play, traditionally passion plays were performed at Easter and were about the death of Christ, and Tuomas plays with us a little here, “second robber to the right of Christ! Well at the crucifixion there was only one robber either side of Christ but in the painting The Last Supper the person second to the right of Christ is Judas!!!!!
Then of course the symbolic death and the slowing faltering heartbeat.
The beginning or last part of the piece are the words that brought Tuomas back from the edge. In his case words from his parents but many of us will have people who were there at just the right time and who cared enough to be the rock and love us enough to hold on.
If there is a message in this work surely it is to be kind, to look out for each other and if you can be there, you never know you may just save a person’s life. As someone did mine.
It is Thomas who portrays the brake up with the first lead singer Tarja. It's great art when someone knows how to turn their emotions into music. He told that he killed himself in a song, instead of committing suicide in real live.
Hello fellow dyslexic! I been watching you guys for about a week or so! I love how organic you guys are! Don’t listen to the negative comments, what matters most is your honest reactions!!! ❤️ just a fan, Just Jen
Wow, honestly we appreciate you words thank you 💜
Hey, Shannon, it's obvious that you love Floor (we all do). How about reacting to her cover of 'Shallow' done on the Dutch TV show Beste Zangers in 2019. You'll get a real good look at her up close, and she sings in an almost acapella manner. I KNOW you'll love it! ua-cam.com/video/M68pe4a_9zk/v-deo.html
A very unique and artistic song. Tragic yet cathartic.
We appreciate the sacrifice you make by not being able to binge on a new band that you really like. One of, if not my favorite song by them is "End Of All Hope". Though it doesn't get reacted to very often.
A golden oldie. It's one of my fav too☺️👌
same here. that one and "she is my sin" from wishes to eternity tour and "wishmaster" from end of an era tour
I have no patience for the "Nightwish Army" folks who want to dictate every reactor's whole journey. I came back into the Nightwish fold well after Floor joined and heard Ghost Love Score first, then Poet and the Pendulum. Didn't know the story... didn't change my love and respect. You guys keep doing you. Also, he's right, it was the sirens that lured sailors to their shipwreck demise.
god those people are annoying. and the ones who have to tell how everything is pronounced.
I am a member of the Nightwish army....but I don't try to dictate the order in which you listen to their music!
Me...I just jumped in and listened to every song I could find!
I can recommend some of my favorites...in no particular order:
Storytime
Nemo
Ever Dream
Elan ( the official video )
Sleeping Sun
Walking in the Air
Last Ride Of The Day
I am very fond of the above songs...but feel free to pick your own! I will watch your reaction!
Every single band has them, its annoying AF tbh. Lovebites has fans do this, Band Maid, Metallica, You name it. Some people lose their fucking minds over the tiniest things.
i cant agree more. problem is- in my humble opinion-, like nowadays the ones who do go extreme are the ones who are loudest in word/text/ etc. the NW Army i know and some for real, are absolute ok with all who hears and watch the Band, and if disagreeing with Statements just accept as normal diversity of Taste- but do not post anything or like/dislike. my oldest long time Friend and me had nightlong discussions about tarja/ anett switch and the songs 2 albums back/ forth. i still love my bro and so he do(me, not himself:D) bcs we accepted the others opinion, just didnt go into the same direction. something the internet build up is this imaginary wall, behind some think they could do anything unrespectful or intimidating etc. they want bcs no one ever will hold them in charge in the real world. sadly, their right.
The Nightwish army only points you to a direction that you may like and are well established songs. You are of course free to discard any suggestions. I am surprised at your reaction. Don't you want you friend here to reach good links to enjoy more of this? (perplexed)
Nightwish Army Germany checking in.
Those damn Onion Ninjas again....
Tuck me in beneath the blue.....always gets me...every time....
This is a Masterpiece.
And I think you dont need to study the complete background to find out that this one was composed by a Mastermind. The Music speaks for its own.
So keep it coming...maybe "7 Days to the Wolves" from Wembley next ?
Floor Jansen, First of Her Name, Queen of the Valkyries and Stonehenge, Lady of Nightwish and Protector of our Metal Realm. Long may she reign. Bow, mortal !
To understand the story you need to know the backstory.
Nightwish was started by Tuomas, Emppu, and Tarja, their first singer. In 2005, after the recording of the "End of an era" dvd Tarja was fired thru a letter given to her by Tuomas, but it was a band decision. The letter was also posted on the bands homepage at the same time. Marko had told Tuomas "It's me or her". This song is about the aftermath thru Tuomas eyes. A piece in five parts.
1. White lands of Empathica.: Boy soprano. "The end, the songwriter's dead, the blade fell upon him" It's the end of an era, Tuomas feels dead inside, he was the one that handed Tarja the letter.
2. Home: "A poet without a rime, a widowed writer torn apart by the chains of hell" Tuomas got writers block, he's lost his musical "wife", his muse, and was fighting depression and doubt.
3 The Pacific: "On the shore, se sat and hoped under the same pale moon who's guiding light chose you, chose you all" If I remember it right Tuomas, Emppu, and Tarja was having a barbecue at night when they decided to start a band together. The operatic part Floor sings was originally sung by the same boy soprano who sings the intro. When Floor joined she told Tuomas that she could sing that. He decided to keep the intro but let Floor sing that part.
4. Dark passion play: This is about the reactions from fans and media where everyone blamed Tuomas even tho it was a band decision.
5. Mother and Father: Tuomas took refuge at his parents house for a while, these are some of the things they told him during that time.
If you noticed in the video the two guitarists went over and stood by him for support, because they know how hard it is on Tuomas.
Check out Master Passion Greed and yet Bye Bye Beautiful. These songs are continuing that story. If Poet is about feelings of Thomas in general, then Master Passion Greed are Tuomas's words to Marcelo, husband of Tarja, who in fact stealed her from the band, and Bye Bye Beautiful - are his farewell words to her.
Huge Nightwish fan here, 10/10 reaction video. Always fun to see people experience things that are close to your own heart, keep being awesome.
Totally get the Darnassus reference. I have often thought the same thing but more so with the instrumental section in the middle of Ghost Love Score - has that dreamy night elf lands feel. I didn't know the back story either when I first listened to this but I also wasn't having to do a reaction in front of ppl on camera. When you listen to it alone, without distraction you can 'feel' the emotions in it even without knowing what it is all about. It's a wonderful thing that Tuomas chose to 'commit suicide' through his music and kept himself safe to eventually find peace from all the torment. Now we can all enjoy his amazing compositions - love to Tuomas and Nightwish.
This is a song about Tuomas (keyboard, composer & founder) In 2005 the band fired the 1st singer Tarja and they put an open letter out to the world why and the hatred from everyone directed at him hurt him bad and depressed him. so he wrote this as an on stage suicide to help put it behind him. . The last part (Mother & Father) are words spoken to him by his parents and the two band members that had voted to expel her "Marco & Emppu" stand next to him showing there support even after all these years.
This song is the reason why i think Tuomas is an amazing musician and composer. One of my favourite songs of all time.
It's hard to choose the best Nightwish song, but this is one of them.
Love it
Man, you can tell her as much as you want, but she's somewhere in deep space listening to Nightwish, like the rest of us.
Welcome to the Nightwish journey.
Let's ride with the Storytime (Wacken 2013, live) 🏍
Fantastic reaction again guys, you really dove in at the deep end with this one. Most reactors take their time getting to it as it has quite the back story attached to it, but I'm glad you enjoyed it regardless.👍🤘
Essentially the song was written by Tuomas (the keyboardist who writes and composes 95% of the songs) as a kind of symbolic suicide by song after he received a ton of backlash and blame following the departure of the original vocalist, Tarja and fell into a deep depression. On top of the backlash he received was the fact that Tarja and him were also friends since childhood and obviously that would no longer be the case, which of course made it even worse.
That's it in a nutshell, I'm sure someone will come along and explain it section by section in considerably more detail than I have but that's the bare bones of it.
Looking forward to the next one, may I suggest "Storytime" from Wacken 2013 next?😁🤘
By the moment you guys read the backstory of this song, you will figure out everything, like pieces of a puzzle falling in the right places, and probably some tears will start to come.
Search on line for the Nightwish's open letter they wrote to Tarja, explaining why she is leaving the band.
Yup the raping shocks people but isn't sexual its raping his talents as the composer and turning on him when they parted ways with the original lead singer leaving him feeling like a whore for the cold world, the death in this song is him drawing a line in the sand on depression and starting a fresh is the final act (the beginning) with the words from his parents
This song always gets me. Thanks for reacting to this. ❤
He's right tough .. Sirens call the sailors in .. Hence why we have the word Siren for police/fire trucks/ambulances. Although they are a species of mermaid ! I know Right :-D
You can still appreciate the epicness of this song without knowing the backstory. Knowing it does deepen the experience but its not necessary really.
Forgive the fellow nightwish army, they are passionate about this band for good reason and only widh others to experience them to the max ❤
Appreciate the kind words thank you
this song is quite deep and complex
You can easily tell how much musical training you have when you can get this much information just from one listen without looking at the lyrics and a quick read at the back story. Indeed the song was inspired by The Pit and the Pendulum and a major depression "Tuomas" (the pianist and founder of the band) fell into after firing "Tarja Turunen" from the band in 2005 (first vocalist of the band).
The five acts are:
I.- White Lands of Empathica : All of the first part of the song with just the orchestra and the Soprano child singing.
II.- Home: (2:41) Starts when the band joins the orchestra and ends when the cello enters 4 or 5
III.- The Pacific: (5:50) Starts with the Cello-led bridge (5:50)
IV.- Dark Passion Play: (9:01) The act that gave its name to the whole album. It starts after with the aggresive violin part and goes all the way through Marko's growling, Floor's next sung part, the following chorus and the narration ending with the chorus crying "Save me!"
V.- Mother and Father: (12:00) Starts with the heartbeat at and the orchestral section with the Oboe solo. comment it speaks about the protagonist reuniting with his parents in the afterlife, that's why there's a mourning oboe but Floor's voice is more soothing than mourning since she is speaking from the parents' point of view ("Be still my son, you're home…"), comforting their newly deceased son.
Another fun little trivia about this song is that there are 4 officially released versions sung by different people: The Demo Version sung in its entirely by Marko since they were in the middle of auditions for Tarja's replacement available in the The Sound of Nightwish Reborn album, the Album version (Dark Passion Play) and the Live version (Made in Hong Kong… And In Various Other Places) sung by the then-vocalist Annette Olzon and Marko and the Live version at Wembley (Vehicle of Spirit) which is the one you just reviewed sung by Floor and Marko. If you compare all three different lineups they all sing and interpret the song very differently, the Demo version even has some different lyrics that are a bit harsher and were then reworked.
Now for a couple more reaction suggestions: You've heard Marko growling here but if you want to hear his smoother singing voice I recommend The Islander (any live performance) and if you wanna find out if Floor can still sing after growling I recommend Yours Is An Empty Hope, also from Wembley Arena (the Vehicle of Spirit live show)
You can't make any more affecting and beautifull song...performance...🇫🇮...
Just enjoy every thing in your way It is your way to enjoy music Don't pay attention in what others think Greetings from a " old Dutchman "who is also a NW fan and keep on going
Thank you so much 😊
Yep, there is a backstory to this song, which helps you better understand. But it is your channel, respect ✊
This song is very emotional for Tuomas,anyway nice reaction 👌👌😊😊
He was right. In Greek myth Sirens were "dangerous creatures, who lured nearby sailors with their enchanting music and singing voices to shipwreck on the rocky coast of their island. It is also said that they can even charm the winds." (Wikipedia) And strangely in myth "sirens were believed to look like a combination of women and birds in various different forms" (again Wikipedia). More modern artists have pictured them basically as being just naked women.
This is one of those songs that is such a work of art that you don't need to understand a word of it or the context for why it was made to be moved to tears by it. It's such a raw emotional experience. I also listened to this one without prior knowledge of its backstory, and I still felt an intense connection with the emotions it conveys, and that made the experience of it so much more personal to me. It doesn't even matter that I knew nothing about the specific scenario it was about and my own experiences were something else entirely, I still *felt* it, I *felt* that catharsis-- and that's exactly what art is supposed to do.
Good job guys. I don’t know why there’s been any flack about your reaction. There’s many layers to their music, and I’ve only begun myself to appreciate all that goes into it. Enjoy your Nightwish journey, there is much more to discover!
The main difference between sirens and mermaids is that sirens are usually depicted as evil temptress’ that lure sailors to their deaths, while mermaids are usually depicted as peaceful, non-violent creatures that try to live their lives away from human interference.
Hi there you pair of loveable rogues, I absolutely loved your reaction to this masterpiece.
The atmosphere and the energy from you guys was great very good facial expressions.
I could see it in your eyes floor puts you into a trance and bam sucks you right in.
So as you liked this one, I bet you are going to love Nightwishes (ROMANTICIDE), well I hope for the best for you and your channel, and I hope to see some more of your amazing Nightwish reactions very soon.
All the best guys.
Super kind words, thank you so much 💜
I've been lucky enough to have seen Nightwish live a couple of times, and I've watched literally dozens and dozens of nightwish reaction videos.. and I can tell exactly when you're going to react.. or as it's more commonly known as a Floorgasm...
Your reactions are probably the most satisfying to watch.. you genuinely get it.
I can't recommend highly enough that you go and see them for yourself in November /December this year..
Wow, honestly we appreciate those kind words 😀
Thanks for a great reaction to a great song. This is an extremely emotional song but you don't necessarily need to know the backstory in order to enjoy it. I'd heard it hundreds of times before I knew what it was about😕
In particular, I love how Tuomas borrowed from "The Pit and The Pendulum", a short story written in 1842 by Edgar Allan Poe. The story deals with the psychological torment of a prisoner in the Spanish Inquisition who is publicly tortured and executed for opposing the Catholic Church. He finds himself in a rat-infested, darkened room with slippery sloped floors leading to a Pit, with a swinging Pendulum above. The Pit signifies Death, the Pendulum represents Time and the sloped floors, rats and darkness symbolise Fear.
The protagonist of the story opposed the Catholic Church as he was angry with God for taking away his birth mother, adopted mother and wife with plague and disease.
I wonder if Toumas's anguish was caused not because he fired Tarja (the original singer) from the band, but because he felt publicly tortured and judged by his so-called fans for doing it the way he did. I believe the score was arranged into 5 separate acts to represent the 5 stages of grieving.
Thank you for the kind words 💜
Early for the song but as some1 told many times, its good to know the background of this song but its not mandatory. Music always defends itself so emotions in this one are clearly noticable. I Hope u enjoyed this, and some time later when You get more into Nightwish then try to get back to this performance previously knowin the story behind it. It will kick your asses once again even more :> good luck guys and take that rabbit hole. Its a journey u never forget I promise
Although there is a serious backstory to this song, the composition and Floors singing is strong enough to catch that and make you feel the seriousness of it. And that is what I saw in your facial expressions Shannon. At a certain point your face changes from ‘happy joy joy’ to ‘wait a minute, there is something going on here’. At the end it looked like you were fighting to hold back the tears. And that is what this song does to everyone who listens to this masterpiece over and over again. I heard it at least a hundred times and I still have watering eyes. Once you know the backstory this will be multiplied by at least a factor 10.
Tarja, the first singer, was loved by a lot of the fans of NW. Apparently the troubles started when Tarja met her future husband Marcelo and there were rumours that Marcelo convinced Tarja that she was the leader, the real star of the band, it was ‘Tarja featuring Nightwish’ and not Nightwish as a whole. Tuomas, Marko and Emppu accused Marcelo of greed and gold digging. Marcelo told Tarja she would be better of going solo and pushed her to do so. Sometime later she announced she was going solo and pursue a solo career. Some other rumours were that Tarja didn’t want to travel with the band anymore and that she went on tour with different airplanes or other means of transport; that she didn’t attend to rehearsals anymore; that she had become a diva. Result: the group dynamics changed. Maybe these are rumours, maybe these are facts. We will never know the truth, but they were both hurt. They knew each other from school and since the start of Nightwish.
One thing for sure: there were mistakes made, from Tarja’s and Tuomas’s side, who led to the split with Tarja.
Read the two letters, the one from Tuomas, Emppu and Marko: nightwish.fandom.com/wiki/Open_Letter_to_Tarja_Turunen and the answer from Tarja: nightwish.fandom.com/wiki/Open_Letter_from_Tarja_Turunen
Nightwish is big in Finland and the split was national news. The fans bashed Tuomas for doing this. The criticisms were devastating. The Poet (Tuomas) and the Pendulum (the critics, “The blade will keep on descending” - the critics will never stop. “The world will rejoice today as the crows feast on the rotting poet”, “Spitting on his grave as they came”). The only way he could cope with it was ‘killing’ himself musically. And the ‘pendulum’ is still descending because all these years later some fans still blame Tuomas.
There is one sentence in TPATP that hits me hard every time. “I can not cry cause the shoulder cries more”. Is it a way of Tuomas saying he will miss his childhood friend, his confidant, the one he goes to to pour his heart out and find solace? Because ‘the shoulder” (Tarja) cries more?
valkyrie's lure enemy soldiers to their deaths thru song and temptation, floor is the queen of them all they say, they are supernatual warriors, who gather soldiers after death and take their souls into the halls of valhalla where the brave live forever, the young lady has a very pleasant look to her btw
This song is the most personal song Tuomas wrote for nightwish.
It all had to do with
The first singer leaving the band and the feelings he had to deal with.
He kills himself in this song so he can have a new start.
the song relates to the aftermath with the media & fans not the actual firing of Tarja
Your with the nightwish army need to do more you 2 rock
Hello Gamers.
The song "The Poet and the Pendulum" is a 13 Minute journey through the mind and turmoil of Tuomas Holopainen after the year 2005. It was in that year the band parted with their long-time singer Tarja Turunen and had a personal falling out with her. The pain of the separation was big on both sides, and shown in this song. There is guilt for what happened, there is the responsibility that the band and Holopainen had to show towards the fans,. It was the End of an Era for them, and reason for Holopainen being lost as described in these lyrics. We can only of course to a certain degree suppose how much of these are truly Holopainen's feelings, wishes and pains - but we do know that the lyrics of Nightwish have been up to then very personal. Other songs on the album also digest this separation and falling out of the members with Turunen.
However personal and "real" these thoughts are, I feel like this song definitely takes us not only on a journey with Holopainen but also into ourselves. The music underlines the emotional gravity of the song extremely well. And I believe a lot of people can actually relate to a sense of guilt and being overwhelmed that all they desired for is the safety of home and innocence. While being personal, the song can still ring true to it's listener. That's a quality Nighwish possesses in many, many more songs. The emotional journey is one we can all share and very few bands know how to put that journey into song and especially into sound as well as Nightwish does.
The band remains through all it's shores and Oceans, one of my main favourites and I hold special place for the band in my musical heart. I hope you have enjoyed reading my analysis and share some of my thoughts. If you do have any comments, please feel free to let me know. And remember the beauty of interpretation is that it is subjective; we can see all and feel different things in the same song and continue to love it endlessly.
Lyric analysis by Annika Hausen
Greetings from the Netherlands
Tuomas had so difficult times after 2005...he put his feelings into this giant song.
What a magnum opus by Tuomas. He must have been so much in for Tarja cause this kind and level of emotion burst came. I even think that the whole Nightwish is because of that connection. Songs from the very beginning up to Master Passion Greed , By bye beautiful and this all in the first Anette album. Miss Marco cause he is so awesome.
Tuomas committed suicide in this song so he wouldn't to do it for real. Now go back and listen to it again with this in mind. Most Nightwish songs don't require us to know the backstory. This one does.
This is a falsehood. It was never about him committing suicide in the song. He said so himself. It's about leaving the past behind and moving forward.
@@markgriffin45 I'll have to go digging to find it, but I've listened to an early interview where he said it was about suicide. In a later interview, the one you saw, he said it was about moving on. People aren't always consistent about their memories. We think we are, but often we're not.
Tuomas did, indeed, say in an interview that this was him killing himself in a song so he wouldn’t have to in real life. The 10:20 mark in this interview: ua-cam.com/video/v65-ErfUyVM/v-deo.html
No it does not, it's a song ffs, if you have to research a song to actually enjoy it then it's a shit song. You lot need to get over yourselves. Going into listening to a song for the 1st time nobody knows what the "story" is, if it's a good song it will stand, what these 2 did is a actual honest reaction and that's a lot more than most channel's that lie about "1st time reactions "
The brilliance, nuance and mastery of Tuomas’ songwriting lyrics and composition never ceases to amaze me. 3 minutes exactly from where he says “I have 3 minutes and counting “ is when he simulates with his hand the pendulum cutting his throat.This is just an amazing piece of music art!🤘🤘
yea we could say it's from WOW but it isn't this songs is written in 5 parts is tell Tuomas history after Tarja left the band or been farewell to the band. In several occasion they say several old songs like "Child in Time" and the "Altar" the IV Part is the words Tuomas mother wrote to him
Nightwish - The greatest show on earth and Yours is an empty hope are a must😍
Thank you for the recommendation 🔥
Great upgrade from 360p :-)
Watching again in HD :-D
As a Horde member for life I'd say Lament of the Highborn is the closest equivalent.
Floor Jansen:let me roll those tears down.
Now that you've seen some of their longer, more epic songs, I suggest you check out "I Want My Tears Back" (Buenos Aires 2019) or "Ever Dream" (Any live performance really. Believe the most popular one is from Wacken 2013.)
Sirens are monsters or demons that live on an island. So they are not mermaids. They enchant seafarers with their singing so that they can sail to their island. In doing so, they crash off the coast and die. They appear in the sagas of Odysseus and Orpheus.
So to clarify the sirens are the ones who sing and made Ulysses bind himself to the ships masts because he would otherwise be overwhelmed and follow them which would have meat he would never return home.
Summary of this story behind of the song: Prior to 1996, Tuomas Holopainen, keyboardist & founder of Nightwish didn't like Heavy Rock and Metal, always classic music such as Mozart. He studied music at Finland's top institute for music theory. Then one of his friends took Tuomas to a rock concert, I think that it was Guns N Roses for his 1st time. He loved it! One of his childhood's friends is Tarja Turunen, original singer for Nightwish also classmate at the school joined him and Emppu Vuorinen, guitarist for then acoustic project. Jukka Nevalainen, original drummer also started with the band. Tuomas wanted Nightwish to be more metal band combining his love for classic music and metal equals Symphonic Metal in 1996. In 2002, Marko Hietala, Bassist joined Nightwish until his retirement in early 2021. Then in 2005, Tarja was fired or left the band. Fans of Nightwish blamed her departure on Tuomas. He went into depression and put Nightwish on hiatus that lasted until 2007. In 2007, Nightwish hired Anette Olzon to replace Tarja as their singer. She lasted about 5 years. Then comes Floor Jansen in late 2012 or early 2013 as then band's touring vocalist for their tour. Note: This is tour that has Floor doing Ghost Love Score in Wacken's Festival in 2013. Prior to this stop, Tuomas and band were traveling in Western US for concert stops. Floor had to learn all Nightwish's songs in 48 hours. After 2013's tour, Floor Jansen became official member of Nightwish. Tuomas was contemplating on suicide during turbulent times in 2005-2007. But doing actual suicide, he wrote The Poet And The Pendulum, Tuomas committed suicide metaphorically and musically.
Thanks 😀
Superb reaction! Greetings from North Yorlshire! Been following Nightwish since 2002! Awesome band
Fun fact of this track on how it is amazingly composed, is if you pay attention at the timeline of the song, starting at when the boy says " Now i only have three minutes and counting " the blades drop exactly three minutes later..!! 👍👍
Listen to Nightwish with Floor to "Sleeping Sun"
Hey guys, dont worry about not knowing the story. Obviously you do now and I hop enhances your immersion in this song. I hope you dont let the people that are upset put you off of doing more Nightwish videos! I have really enjoyed the 2 you've done!
Thank you very much 💜
Love this song, thanks from Colombia
It's always nice to watch a neutral reaction. Of course, us, Nightwish fan are listening to this song in a different way because of the backstoy, tears are never far.
But it's always interesting to see people only reacting to the song itself, and I'm sure when knowing everything about it you will watch the same video in a different way (the lyrics, the construction of the song, the way the musicians acts when they are around Tuomas, everything).
Thank you for your reaction.
The structure of the song is incredible definitely takes on a journey and experience different emotions such talented musicians ❤️
I would recommend listening to Nightwish - The Islander (Live At Tampere). It really is a showcase of Marko the bass player and male singer who surprised you.
Thank you for the recommendation ☺️
Thank you both for this one, bye!!
the guys right, its sirens singing on rocks luring sailors to their doom, but mermaids and sirens are the same thing
you guys should really listen to The Greatest Show On Earth live at tampere :D then you'll be in for a great time :D
Soprano Godess! Best Voice of Our Time!!🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Guy Elliott is the boy soprano at the start - from St Mary's Reigate Choir School. The part "sparkle my scenery" was also originally sung by a boy soprano but Floor said she could do it - Tuomas agreed and she did! Nightiwish gave Nuclear Blast a blast about the blue-ray fault - this version. The DVD version or later Blue-ray is better - timing/playback speed wise. Still, you heard it, saw it and reacted! Well done!
Nicely reacted guys. Keep on rockin with them.
Always amuzing to read comments for this magical track.
Honestly it's hilarious how literally many fans(part of Nightwish army?) takes the lyrics.
As a result, even individual sentences have been constructed as mythical, many say truth-based fact stories. Just as people tend to make something read or heard easier for them to understand.
I wonder if there is any way that the "poet" has deliberately left room for interpretation in his texts. As poets often do. 😉
Cheers from Finland 🇫🇮 🥶, the Mother Land of Nightwish 🤟😎
Love your insight and appreciate the kind words, thank you 🔥
Hi guys! Some time ago I have ask a question to Floor Jansen. She use to makes a short videos with quick answers for her fans that they asking in comments. So my question was about World of Warcraft. Simply: have you ever play this game and what fraction you choose.
She simply answered: - "For The Horde!" This is how she got my love entirely! Love her voice, love her presence and nice personality. She is really considered by many people (100% by me) as the best female singer ever.
Hahahaha love it
Its siren, they would sing an course shipwrecks. Mermaids rescued drowning sailors.
enjoy and be honest ... a lot of people understand and know everything about the band ... the say .. just be a fan and ask what is the story or the background of a song ... they will explain it to U 2
Tuomas is an absolute genius and is genuinely one of the most underrated songwriter/composers in music
Yup, very early to be watching this masterpiece in anyone's Nightwish journey, but as you say, its your channel, you do what you want to.
This song is about such a monumental/pivotal moment in the Nightwish story, and no doubt others will fill you in on the backstory (the sacking, the open letters, the fan hate, the depression and suicidal thoughts etc etc) it contains a lot of metaphors and symbolism that it might be worth doing a bit of reading and then re-watching it so it makes more sense.
Now, do Nightwish - Greatest show on earth! You got two options, either Live from Tampere (with synchronized fireworks) or Live from Wembley (featuring Richard Dawkins)!
Late to this particular party, but as a fellow traveller on the Nightwish discovery road, I have to say they've produced some truly epic music over the years. If you're in the mood for 20ish minutes of mammoth themes set to an epic soundtrack, you might enjoy "The Greatest Show on Earth". Basically the story of evolution from the Big Bang to the present day (hence the remark about mammoth themes). I'll learn the joys of further discovery to you, but suffice to say that after I heard it the first time, my feet didn't touch the ground for about a week lol. Enjoy, folks.
Masterpiece. Top 20 all time songs. Story is sad but happy end. Without that it would have been end of Nightwish.
So true.
This is my favourite song of all time! If you care to take the time and research it a little bit it definitely enhances the experience. If not enjoy it the way it is. 😉
Great as always guys, I recommend either "Everdream" from Wacken in 2013 or "Storytime" from Wacken 2013, both are good points to stop at next - keep up the good work!
We appreciate you thank you 💜
Another great reaction guys
Every time I see a reaction of this particular son immediately click it, its my favorite song ever ans to me it doesnt matter if they know or not the back story behind it, everyone has the right of experience it on their own way, there are a lot of channels and each one has its take, and never dissapoints... Nightwish to me are legendary! Incredible reaction from you guys, you seem like really cool folsks! Automatic like 👍🏼
Thank you for your kind words mate 😀
Well...for me it was a great reaction of the both of you👍👌👍👌 even not knowing what's the background of the story but i think you will figure that out.
Kind regards from the Netherlands and stay healthy ❤❤
I was there!! Nightwish are a MUST SEE band!!!
We are not jealous. Not at all. Not one bit. Hahaha.
i always say when i watch this when floor does the dutch windmill, its beastmode, i like to picture my floor jansen as alice in resident evil, after exhausting the ammo in the dual uzi handguns she pulls out a mic and does zombie headpopping belts then straight into beauty like the pacific part 3, its a fn masterpiece, hopefully you reacted to ghost love score already if so complete the nightwish holy trinity the greatest show on earth live at tampere finland
NIGHTWISH ARMY COSTA RICA DIVISION is here 🤘💀🇨🇷
Nice one guys this journey just BEGIN all the ARMY be whith you all the way try ROMANTICIDE for the next one 🤘CHEERS
At the end she was about to shed a tear . me to.
She would have, if they knew the backstory. I cringe when new reactors with no knowledge of the band jump into Poet. I have noticed that commenters are much kinder than they used to be. I usually won't comment. I still haven't seen this reaction. I want to get to know them, so I'll wait.
@@randymarple9830 maybe , maybe not. It's really not necessary to know. The music/vocals tells the story good enuf. I don't like dive into any back stories or personal lives of bands/ artists. Sometimes it really destroyed the feelings i had for a song and it turned out to be not so or the back story to the artist turned me off.
Music should be personal. Unlike books. (but then one colors the setting and characters to personal feelings)
Hi guys, had a bit of a break from social media but just had to click on this when it appeared on my feed. I actually like the fact that you went in at the deep end with this number - not many people do and they all get roasted for it - sure, there's a significant back story to this song which you both immediately recognised but I think it's a refreshing way to approach songs - as I'm sure many have now filled you in about the song meaning and the lyrics - I'm sure you know by now that those lyrics re. Raping etc are not to be taken literally but figuratively - like you, I was also a bit shocked by this in first listening - I've now heard this god knows how many times and I never tire of it. My song suggestion is 'Seven days to the Wolves' also from that same Wembley Concert - it's a solid banger! Keep em coming guys - more Babymetal too!! 😆
Thank you we appreciate you 💜
Sirens and mermaids are basicly the same being in origins a banshee screeches to announce death, mermaids and sirens lure sailors to death with their song, Its just a linguistic difference basicly
Ah so technically both right!
On the message, I think it is worth knowing, but it's a choice to either research it before you listen or look into it after. The experience changes when you know the meaning but this doesn't mean that you can't enjoy the song without prior knowledge. Any artwork - and this is an artwork - can be appreciated on multiple levels of understanding.
I listened to this song without knowing the backstory. it moved me. When I did the research and came back to it I had more of an appreciation for it and respect for Tuomas.
Exactly!
Not knowing the background is not bad.. you can have another listen later and enjoy it even more... Its an emotional song so take your time .. with the story behind it and again with the lyrics too. Nice to see you enjoying Nightwish... Keep reacting 🥰🥰🥰.. Cheers
Appreciate it, thanks 😊
The first singer is a male child soprano. Lovely. And a great choice for the beginning of the song. Floor just adds the yummy vocal frosting on top of the cake that the creator of the song made.
Every other day when I get back from work and I´m sitting here with my dinner, a new "Poet and the Pendulum" reaction is on. And after all this time I have to skip part 3 and 5 so I don´t cry into my food...