This Japanese Opening Is Hilarious
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Credits to DeMu, If im not mistaken. He posted a video of him playing this vs Vortix as Juicy Monk strat. I can assume that Vortix is trying it for himself here. Quite crazy opening.
just FYI - this build was done first by demu- he went for 2nd TC instead of TC upgrade
Going 2nd TC??? How revolutionary!!! Why didn't anyone think of that ever?!?!
Did Demu go 5 on stone in dark age?
He did, there's literally a video on YT of it
Demu is the shit! A real rising star!
@@illxet do you even read the comment or you just like commenting random stuff?
this has got to be the most charming spectator
It’s that ausie charm
This really made me want to play the Japanese
3:11 the mixed report with Beastyqt. Stone in dark age
That was a beautiful defence by Vortix at the 14 min
YOOOoooooooo Beasty aint talking shit no more
It can even be better: put villagers from sheep on berrie's instead, he needs the house anyway, use the additional 50 gold for wheelbarrow, they harvest 25% more berries, increased movement speed, gives you 3 gold for every 13 stone per villager. after 10 runs for each villager you get back the gold cost and have 130 extra stone just because of that.
Also leaves your sheep under tc if you play vs english or for later in the game.
But I mean, its vortex, I'm just a gold II player.
You fall short of 20g gold since you only mine 650 stone (= 130gold). You could however mine 20g with 2 of the 5 stone vills (3 build forge at stone/2mine 20g). You would however need another 25w to construct an additional house. Considering the prolonged age-up timing (you need to mine an additional 30g through stone), you could allocate 2/3 workers on straggler tree earlier to get the 25w in earlier. Considering the time between 2nd TC and finishing age up (about 30seconds) it could work that your 2nd TC isnt delayed. I haven't tested it, it would definitely require a lot of optimization and juggling of villagers. In that sense the presented BO seems much easier.
Drongo.. what do you think ab the dragon civ? i think its the best late game civ.. best eco by far. I'd like to see someone play it for late game.. i think its gonna be stupid strong. the vils are powerhouse.. 140 civs is insanely strong + they have insane archers that can deal with even men at arms and knights
Why they put gathered resources through go inside to TC? Is it faster than default animation?
Dark age stone KEKW
How do you make the Ayyubid mangonels use their fire ability on console? I have seen it used, and explored every possible control/ability/tech playing the Ayyubids, but I cant seem to get it to flame on. Anyone know?
It should be similar to the desert raider mellee/ranged stance swap. At least it is in PC so I would think they would be consistent there too
Beasty: STONE IN DARK AGE???!!!! 🙂
VortiX could have saved all the stone and upgraded the second TC right after feudal age, but wouldn't get the 25% on the farm placement. 2 TC, with a feudal age up at 5:30 seems pretty fast. idk.
Also, realistically, 25% improved farms takes quite a while once you are feudal anyway.
If he used that wood for the TC for farms, including the 1 free farm from the storehouse, he'd have 6 (and a half) farms.
In my opinion, rushing food this much as the Japanese doesn't make much sense.
I have played about 20 games as the Japanese now, and I am never low on food with any build order.
Normally I go early Daimo so I can use the 'knight' for early aggression as its very strong, but tbh, as a more defensive/greedy build, this 2nd TC comes almost as fast as my knight, so that, in my opinion, is stronger.
I'm proud of you pronouncing Manor correctly finally 😁
He was never pronouncing it incorrectly. Words can have different pronunciations based on the region. As an example consider the word "garage". Brits pronounce it differently than Americans, and that's okay.
I thought going stone was how people had been opening because of the gold and TC upgrades or going fast 2TC.
Coffee ✅ corn cob pipe filled with tobacco ✅ a view of the battlefield narrated by a lovely aussy voice ✅ 😆
I hope this will be the meta and there is 1 pro player who can never do it
Funny, I was talking to my buddy about different Japanese build orders yesterday and he said he was going to try 5 on stone. Looks like it’ll work haha
Getting overrun by Onna Bugatti.
How do you beat a Japanese melee onlaught like this? I've fought an opponent that did that with one TC, many barracks, and a composition like that, and my Rus knights + archer comp, in even number, couldn't match the fight. Mangonels were being made, but not ready yet. What can you do? They seem to just win.
You can't do anything, except buy the DLC. It's pay to win.
@@WillieFungolmao Japanese is hardly one of the better civs at the moment at the pro level
heavy on the men at arms and a few crossbows, mangonel definitly helps but vortex's micro was just better
what micro are we speaking??? he just hit and when the mangol was rdy to fire he went back. That is not a huge display of micro@@draculmorzan
@@Snapshot.Geo07 i didnt say is was huge. it was just better than his opponent.
can we say that he only did it cause he was facing abassid variant? Abassid have a timing that start little slow
Other people are saying that Demu used this Japanese opening against vortex who was playing New China variant going fast castle
the fact he has to clearify himself about gendering, man what this world has become, great video as always !
A-BURP-ids
its demus build...
This opening build order makes a uma bannerman+shinobi timing attack totally viable now that I think about it.
My reason for thinking this could be strong is simply the shinobi can sabotage the enemies first barracks, giving you at least another 30 seconds to idle the enemy and raid with the uma bannerman before the enemy can start playing the game again, in addititon to the costs your enemy incurs shhobi proofing their base, the shinobi having serious advantage against spearmen, and he isn't forbidden from doing damage too.
What would you do with all the stone, though?
Only thing I disagree with is the Shinobi advantage against spears. I think the Shinobis almost lose to a single spear
@@spectrallogic You need the manor for the uma bannerman.
@@john66687 Shinobi do 25 damage to the spear with 80 health, and attack faster.
Spearmen do 7 damage to the shinobi with 80 health.
At the time where the shinobi gets its fourth attack out, the spear should be on its third.
If your shinobi are losing to single spearmen I don't know what to tell you, it should be ending with nearly 75% HP.
@@WalrusJones185 that sounds right, I just saw beasty lose his Shinobis to Demus spears, must have been his production speed or something cause beasty lost the game on it. He thought he could take the spears and keep harassing the docks but was forced to retreat
GGWP
I've been doing this since 1st day lol
What are you rated?
@@john66687 conq+
Drongo I wouldn't worry about how you pronounce things, you already destroy monk and manor so just accept it...
Tenno Heika Banzai!
All I'm seeing is another loss for my favorite civ
The last ten games I've played as the Japanese and ive won everytime. I think they are just far too powerful and have everything haha. I love playing them, but I definitely think they are more than just a force to reckon with. Definitely not a professional player by any means, but it is so simple to win with them.
How did you win?
Which build/ army are you going for?
I just go fast imp (sub 18) and get the upgraded tc as soon as possible and spam mounted samurai with the unique hand cannon guys they get from their landmark. Their blacksmith tech is insane.
@@ManroeMS the current fast imp builds are all sub 15 mins tho.
@@ManroeMSNo offense, but if the enemy is letting you go naked imperial for 18mins and they lose, they are an idiot, Japanese don't need a nerf.
I am very happy that you no longer call the upgrade Japanese cow poo.
1st
quite sad you have to explain what ''bad boys'' means nowadays lol
WE went from Hre MAA age 3 to Japan MAA age 2 . Great ideas for the civ but the One barrack build to counter everything on the map is just plain stupid. Like there is no reason to go for archery/stable.