BEST. LIGHT. EVER. - Pixapro's lovely photo & video LED - LED100D Review
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Fabulously helpful, thanks so much.
Thanks for that Nitsan! Yes it is a clean light!!
Hi Nistan, awesome review! I film online guitar lessons and wondered if this will be bright enough for lighting a 1-2m subject area? Also what's the best size / shape of softbox to get? Appreciate your help. Thanks, Chris
More than bright enough.
I love the 150cm easy open octadome, or if you don't have much space to work with then once of the smaller easy open ones will be great. I prefer the octadome ones over the square ones since they fold a bit smaller and are stronger when open.
Nitsan, fantastic review
thanks for the review Nitsan, I like your technical approach to the topic, it looks like a solid light and best out all it's very affordable, i'm definitely gonna try it out as I'm looking for some under 1k euro led lighting at the moment
glad you find it helpful. thanks for watching. :)
Excellent lights but just a little noisier than i would have liked, the fan replacement video would be very much appreciated if you get a chance
More questions! ... Is the black wrap at 15.00 going over just 1/2 of the bulb in order to dim it and do you just then pull it across more to control the dim more? Better option than an ND gel?
What (if any) have you found to be a good option for a tungsten gel for this light?
Is this the 120cm octagon softbox at 15.00. Thanks!
1. yeah it's just partially blocking the light. I don't think there's any point using NDs here. I don't really need to adjust it much, once i add the black wrap I can continue adjusting the light with the built-in dimmer, except now the range is much lower.
2. no idea, any gel suitable for hot lights will be fine. Theater gels should be good, not photography gels, they will melt if you put them close enough to the bulb.
3. Yes, but I recommend the 150. It's larger and easier to open since the fabric is not as tight, and the 120cm has a reliability issue with the center pole. They do send you replacements when it breaks, and you can use zip ties instead while waiting for delivery, but it's best to just go with the more durable 150.
Yes please Nitsan. Could you shoot the picture with a colour checker chart in frame?
I know I'd have to use Magenta gels on them but hopefully not many!
sure. i think i have a color chart somewhere.
you absolutely will not need any correction gels for this.
except for effects or something.
Great video. Just one question if I may. If I was to use one of these lights with a 30 x 120 strip softbox, what sort of ISO would I be able to shoot at? I currently use elinchrom strobes and am obviously able to shoot at ISO 100 even at 200th. Am I going to be able to get anything like this?
I'll show some examples of this in a video soon. It depends a lot on distance to the subject and aputure too of course.
I don't know for sure off the top of my head, but if I had to guess I would say ISO 100, f1.8, 1/200 with the subject 1m away from the front of the softbox.
Great video Nitsan! I'd love to see some real-world video tests with it, those photos looked great. This might be the replacement for my fluorescent heads, which are a pain to set up!
Thanks.
yeah i'll have lots of examples in part 2.
Nice review.
I want to know how portable I can make this light or what is the battery powered/pack alternative without going down to a 400W light...?
I like shoot a lot out doors (both stills and video) and don't always have access to a power point(75% of the time)
get some yongnuo yn160. :)
Good review. Might be what I'm lookking for, but do you know how complete the colour spectrum is, the CRI?
No, I'll check if I ever get a chance. Currently I have no way to test the CRI other than the image i get from the camera. |So far it's giving me a great light with nice colors so I really don't expect any more from it.
Respect... Just for mentioning the decision data.
hi Nitsan
Can these lights be focused on the subject with little spill on other object?
Thanks
Paul
IRiSSwatch they don't have built-in fresnel lenses, but you can add barn doors or use black foil.
great review nitsan (Y)
thanks paul. :)
Loved the review as always, is the light available in the U.S? In the description I only saw amazon and eBay UK links.
Yeah they'll ship to the us if you email them.
I am excited about this LED and can't wait to see live tests. I already have it on my wish list. I agree with you on the BATTERY option. I do location stills/film and I will love to run this on battery power. How soon will part 2 be posted? Thank you for sharing a brilliant review.
Pretty soon I think. I'm waiting for them to come back in stock.
Nitsan, did you ever get around to that fan video?
Thanks for this review.
I'm wondering how this lights would work with barndoors?
I've not used it much with barn doors. I'll post a video about that when I can. I have the barn doors but not much time at the moment.
Nitsan Simantov
I understand, thanks for that Nitsan!
Just curious if the light has a single shadow cast from it or if it has more of a gradient effect with the barn doors?
I'm also wondering how far the throw of the light is. I can see it works great in a studio environment but what about shoots in a large area when you have to put the lights far a way?
Cheers ;)
leifieinars
I need to check again, but if I remember correctly it wasn't a perfect shadow. The shape of the LED's lines was slightly visible in the shadow with the barn doors i used.
As for throw, as a light source that isn't going through a lens, it decreases in power to exactly one quarter every time the distance is doubled, just like any other bare light would. It's called the inverse square law.
So 52,000 lux at half a meter, 13,000 lux at 1m, 3,250 lux at 2m, 812 lux at 4m, etc.
This is based on the laws of physics, but I've also measured it myself.
LED lichting is getting useful for 35 mm photography but for medium format and higher ( 4*5 inch) many times not enough light especialy when you must use small apertures....stil very useful especialy for on location shooting and film ofcourse....
Nitsan...thanks for the review. Do you know if this light will work in the USA?
Hey
I don't know, sorry.
There's some alternatives in the links below the video. Like the Jinbei, etc.
What mount are these things? Looks amazing, now if only i could use just one set of modifoers, for both stills and video...
they are bowns mount.
I use these lights for both stills and video.
I only use my flashes for weddings.
Where is the tutorial on the fan change?
Hi Nitsan, once again another great video, I am just about to bye these lights, are they still the best lights ever?
Are you ever in S/W France working? Cheers, Mark
Hi
Yeah, I just bought another two. I've been doing some cool stuff with them, see my blog post from yesterday on my website.
I'll add a link in the description of this video.
Is there no way to purchase these and have them shipped to the states? Love the idea of doing high speed photography with these and your videos sold me.
The Mark II versions ship to most places.
Nice one man. When will you post the picture?
Also, have you ever used Pixapro's after sales service?
I'll post it tonight or tomorrow if I can.
I spoke to them via email a few times but never had to return anything.
Could you tell me what size barndoors this thing takes on its basic reflector? The website is annoyingly tight lipped on the subject.
Confusingly, the website also lists them as In Stock today, but won't let me buy any because they're out of stock :(
I bought the barn doors from eBay. I think they were 7 or 8 inch size.
of you email me then I'll find you the link when I'm on the computer. (I'm on my mobile now.)
I bought the barn doors from eBay. I think they were 7 or 8 inch size.
of you email me then I'll find you the link when I'm on the computer. (I'm on my mobile now.)
Still no love for the USA, Nitsan buy this and I'll buy this from you seems the only way i'll ever get this light
I'm sorry but I don't do that - but even if I had a spare for sale I don't send big or expensive things abroad.
You could try some similar ones from B&H. They have a couple that have similar features.
Hey Nitsan,
Any chance of getting that raw image from this light?
😃
really sorry. been swamped. can you please remind me Monday? I have a ton of stuff to finish this weekend.
Nitsan,
maybe this is unworkable, but I've been looking at tactical HID flashlights. The 8600lm 85w rechargeables on ebay. If you dig, you can find some with bulbs from between 4000K to 6000K color. They don't support dimming (no HIDs do), but they do commonly have three intensity levels. I guess scrims or shutters would be the only solution there. But they are single point sources. And the heads are in the +3" (7cm - 9cm) range, which should fit many common barn door / color gel attachments. UA-cam reviews suggest about 45mins of use per charge. They throw very far, unlike leds. And they are clamp solutions - should be able to rig something kind of attachment for a stand.
The Pixapro (and others like it) look great for studio work. But off mains it seems not so good. In contrast, the light panels you've reviewed are soft sources with poor throw.
Your thoughts? Crazy? Unworkable? Idiotic? Or do you like the idea?
hey.
I don't know which product you're talking about specifically. I've tried some 2000lm torches for this use. the main issue is that the color sucks, at least on the ones I've used. they can be very useful as back lights if you get one with a focusable beam. there's no way I would use them for lighting skin. hard light sources don't look good on people most of the timr and these torches are pretty much impossible to look at or even in their general area.
I'm trying a mix of torches and Aputure 160 or 198 LEDs as my battery operated kit, but I wouldn't recommend the torches as the main lights.
oh, and yeah you can't use the dimming feature, it flickers like hell.
OK, not spamming but this is the light I'm talking about:
www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.H0.Xhid+fLASHLIGHT+85W&_nkw=hid+fLASHLIGHT+85W&_sacat=0
They're not XM-L T6 LEDs, it's a real Xenon HID (high intensity discharge) bulb. It's a point source, so this thing will cast very hard light with deep shadows. You're right that it won't make talent look good. It's more like a PAR or Fresnel spot. But could be useful for dramatic purposes, say noir, horror, or suspense.
Here's a guy using a led flashlight with a set of off the shelf barndoors like I'm thinking (scroll down to the bottom):
forums.creativecow.net/thread/47/860868
And here's some survivalist dude who compares a couple of these HID flashlights, showing the kind of throw they have.
ua-cam.com/video/Q65DF2s0k_g/v-deo.html
OK. So this flashlight is not a real 1K PAR or ARRI Fresnel. But it puts out comparable light intensity in a spot beam. Could several of these be useful for filming dramatic performances on location away from mains?
I genuinely don't know. But I do know that led based battery powered soft light with is cheap and readily available now. But if you want a battery powered hard light source, something that casts defined shadows that can be shaped with barndoors, flags, scrims, cookies, etc, then this is a more difficult problem to solve.
I understand if this isn't what you're into. And anyway, you've got that Sony a7s. Could push the iso on that up to crazy gain levels and use much less intensive light sources. I'm thinking Panny GH4, which limits me to iso800 tops, iso400 preferably. Even with with fast F2ish lenses and low shutter speeds you still need light if you want to film night scenes. Particularly if you're doing it in a rural area where there's no ambient sources.
Sorry if I rambled here.
It's a monster, Nitsan!... but I can't believe how quiet this is compared to my tiny Sola ENG (more expensive!). I have to remove it from my audio each and every time I use it. I may have to get one of these, certainly for studio-based work :-) Incredible output for an LED light at this price.
yeah it's awesome. :)
Nitsan Simantov Any idea why the D model is hard to get hold of Nitsan?
***** no idea. i guess it ran out of stock.
*****
they are now back in stock. :)
Nitsan Simantov You know what? It arrived yesterday :-) You weren't wrong - incredible output... I got the free standing Lastolite background too and it lights it up on its own! Saves me a ton of time getting my 4 LEDs to blow it out. Shamefully, the only thing I failed to do was make the purchase via your affiliate link :-/ sorry, promise I'll support the channel on my next purchase Nitsan :-)
Great video, the only thing that I am curious about is how do those light do in slow motion? Let's say 100fps or 200fps? Are they flicker-free through all the dimming range? Can you test that? Maybe at least with a Panasonic GH4 (it shots 96fps in Full HD). I'm sure I'm not the only one that would appreciate such a test.
Sure, I'll test it.
I've had no flicker from these up to 1/400 shutter in video, (in photography up to the maximum 1/8000 was fine but only if I used the mechanical shutter, not the electronic one.) i'm not fully sure about high frame rates but I can check with my A7s which goes to 120 fps.
Nitsan Simantov Great, I'm looking forward to it, I want to order a couple of these this month if your test will come positive, looking forward to some footage. Thank you in advance!
Nitsan Simantov Also if you can check if they are also good if you dimm the light down, a lot of LEDs start to flicker when not a t full power. Thank you!
in my test with the a7s at 120fps there was no flicker at 1/125 shutter speed at any brightness of the light.
at 120fps and 1/240 shutter there was no flickering only at maximum brightness on the light.
Are these still the best 'big lights' around? Did you ever get to make a instruction video for the fan mod?
Hotcake Video Production, Chichester hey. yeah these are still what i use as my main lights.
I'll post that mod video as soon as I can.
How about RPS Studio CooLED 200w ?
i've not used it yet.
Assuming these are the 'umbrella' softboxes, and easy open, the ones that looks like yours are over £100 www.essentialphoto.co.uk/category/umbrella-softbox/ - at least the pixapro ones are. The 'essential photo' ones are around the around the same price but the grid looks different
I can't decide between this or the Jinbei EF-200. They're both about the same price and I would probably prefer the Pixapro. But to get it I'll have to get it shipped from the UK and wait for it from pre order. But I can get the Jinbei from my country and in stock (Australia). Do you think I should go for the Pixapro or try the Jinbei? Cheers!
I've only tried the jinbei 100w. I heard the 200w is quieter but I'm not sure. Pixapro are by far my favourite. I just got the II+ version which can work off a v mount battery.
I've only tried the jinbei 100w. I heard the 200w is quieter but I'm not sure. Pixapro are by far my favourite. I just got the II+ version which can work off a v mount battery. Love it.
Nice. Yeah I was looking at getting the battery pack with it also, I will try and go the pixapro. Thanks for the reply!
I have the Jinbei 200 and it is extremely quiet. I can't really hear it. But I would like to compare it to the Pixapro to see which one has the best light output.
Since pixapro sells only to European territories, Is there an equivalent light sold in the USA?
yes, see the links in my written review.
i know this is two years old, but are there any american vendors selling this? i can't seem to find one.
\i don't think so, but you can order one from the UK. (version II)
I've got mine!! 2 of them. Any plans to do that fan replacement instruction video/blog soon? That would be super handy
They are quite magenta (magic lantern auto white balance had to offset with "green +7") so not sure how they would mix with more 'neutral' lights like the new cri95 Apurtures that may appear green in comparison if used in same shot. But very bright, came out around 14000 lux for me on average with cap on. That fan video would be great!...
I'll try to get that fan mod video done soon. It's filmed but needs an edit if I remember correctly.
And the color, message them. It's shouldn't be like that. I'm sure they'll be happy to help.
Nitsan Simantov Thanks! Great lights but apparently they changed from >85cri to >90cri recently and wonder if they went more magenta when it changed. Not great for mixing lights or with daylight, both my lights the same. Included a pic to demonstrate - jimelliottvideoandphotography.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/photo.jpg
looks like a bad batch of led bulbs. that's unacceptable. contact Pixapro.
Jim Elliott I was planning on getting 2 of these myself, did you contact pixapro about the colour cast? any info you could give me would be greatly appreciated
stuieRX they said they would look into it, no reply other than that yet. I have a Rosco 1/8 plus green filter which when used balances it out a bit, could even use a 1/4 plus green. With the 1/8 i lose only about 1/3 f-stop of light. Still would prefer neutral lights and the 2nd light might be returned because of this
Excellent review. So Visico (USA) is the same company as Pixapro?
I'm 99.99999% sure it is not.
Just looks like a light made with the same parts.
Nitsan Simantov
Thanks for the reply. It is where the links go at the "USA Guys See Info Below!" section...would you recommend these? Perhaps I'm missing something...
Kevin Devick it's just the closest alternative I know of. I have not tested them because they won't work here in the UK.
Nitsan Simantov
Interesting. Thank you.
Where can i buy it? Whats the price for this light?
links in video description
Do they have something like this in the states?
+TheNewMeJourney Fitness Photography
Yes there are some similar ones. Many have issues though. Loud fans are very common, color issues, etc.
The Mark II version of this light ships to the USA. See my review of that for links.
+TheNewMeJourney Fitness Photography
Yes there are some similar ones. Many have issues though. Loud fans are very common, color issues, etc.
The Mark II version of this light ships to the USA. See my review of that for links.
+TheNewMeJourney Fitness Photography - YES. The exact same light is sold in the USA by NEEWAR.
Here is the link. It says it's currently unavailable though. It might come back in stock, or this whole light might be out of production in China altogether.
www.amazon.com/Neewer-Continuous-Professional-Lighting-High-Intensity/dp/B00REDJ2UU/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8
Here is an alternative similar light with better CRI. I have 2 of these. Very nice. BUT...you can NEVER use them at less than 49% power or they will flicker. Oh well....I never use them that soft anyway. If I really need them dimmer I just put an extra scrim or diffusor in front of them.
www.amazon.com/dp/B00UBRXYGE/ref=dra_a_rv_ff_fx_it_P2000_1000?tag=dradisplay-20&ascsubtag=c3f2985c1a556037affdda5ce993eed5_S&dra_hfr=x&dra_ohs=24-48
Now here is their newer and more powerful version. 200w. Even higher CRI and NO flicker. But it's more expensive:
www.amazon.com/Godox-Journalistic-Recording-Photography-MicroFiber/dp/B018NKRQ4Q/ref=sr_1_1?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1457915152&sr=1-1&keywords=godox+200w
Nitsan, it's Monday ;)
Any chance of getting the RAW image of this light? Maybe you can upload it here for anyone else who wants it?
Yup. Will do shortly.
Sorry, I've been in Denmark shooting a wedding.
Raw image download now added to the written review.
Looks very nice Nitsan also you need to give valid links to ebay as with many of the items you review when you click on the ebay link the reviewed item is never first up which can be confusing to which buyer you bought the product from. :)
thanks.
It's not always possible because ebay products sometimes only last a month, so I have to link to the search results rather than the item itself, otherwise I would have 400 videos to check and update the links on every month, which would take the entire month. lol
Ahhh ok i see.... as you were :P
Did you find out about USA shipping yet?
yeah, they ship to there. just gotta email them.
I guess at some point they'll also add it to the automatic checkout.
Nitsan Simantov Does it cost extra? I am ordering one tomorrow. Is there a way to tell them that you sent me?
Scuba James
Yeah the shipping costs more to the USA. I'm not sure what options there are price wise.
They don't pay me anything so you don't need to tell them I sent you.
I only make a bit from ebay/amazon links.
But thanks for the thought. :)
Nitsan Simantov how much extra is the shipping?
Scuba James you'd have to ask them. i'm not sure.
Nitsan, you say there is no green colour cast with these LEDs. I think a lot of people will be concerned about this when buying any light.
Could you prove this to us?
I can post a raw image if that's useful for you.
I've just received my new unit; it's damn solid, but not quite what yours is. Mine only clocks in at 10,600 lux @ 1m, fresh out of the box, which is a pretty big difference, but that's Chinese quality control for you.
I'm still satisfied with it, as it's more robust than the 2.5 Aputure panels and an umbrella I'd have to use to get the same output and about the same price [not factoring in the difficulty of replacing Aputure leads]. Besides, it does exactly what the claimed it would and isn't loud (though I might consider replacing the fan anyway).
cool. yeah they only promise 10,000 so i was surprised that mine was so much brighter.
it could also be that both the light meters i tried are not giving a good result. maybe i'll have to try another.
Also depends where you measured from. I measured from the mouth of the reflector; if I measured from the chip, I'd probably have about 15k. I didn't though, because Its far easier to tell the people I tend to have helping me a measurement from the mouth.
Mulletmanalive I always measure from the led so that my various reviews have the same measurement, always with the included reflector on the unit. So maybe that's where the difference comes from. :)
Can't wait for USA availability. I can't find anything on google so far.
They said that they will send it to the USA if you contact them.
Nitsan Simantov I contacted them, been 3 days no reply :(
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Yeah me too. Normally they reply, so maybe they are at an expo or something.
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Can't find these lights
yeah i think they are out of stock still. Should be back soon as far as I know.
now back in stock
Awesome review! I bought a Photodiox LED100wa which seems like the best LED video light in the USA, but it sucks compared to this light. Hopefully it is easy to upgrade to quite fans, because it is loud. Have you ever reviewed this light? If not, you should.
I haven't. I didn't like the big power supply you need to carry with it.
I agree. The ballast is super loud to. I'll hear back tomorrow from pixapro about selling me one of their LED lights. I might just use some CFLs until I can import the "best light ever"
Man these lights have been sold for ages. I really want them but impossible to buy right now.
yeah. same here.
I was told they will be back this month.
They JUST messaged me also and said 3-4 weeks. BTW i have watched almost all your videos. Great job and very thorough reviews. I always click on your links when buying. Thanks for all the hard work.
Zombie Clown
awesome. thanks. :)
:-) just to give you a heads up, i would not hold my breath on them getting the item in stock when they say, my friend emailed them 3 weeks ago and was told 3-4 weeks wait, i emailed them yesterday and got the same reply today 3-4 weeks. But seem like great lights and i can't wait to eventually get them.
Thanks again, great work as always.
Zombie Clown
Cool thanks for the info. Hopefully they'll get some soon. :)
it's not even battery powered, how would you use it outside?
Pixapro has a big battery that will power them via the mains cable.
The "mark II+" version of this light also accepts v-mount batteries.
that will not work mate I asked them that unit is for flashes only (800w generator)
Here is a review of the 200 watt version. Jinbei ef 200
ua-cam.com/video/5z7M3gKglFQ/v-deo.html
Nitsan, thanks again for the video. Have you posted the fan mod video? I think I found the same light in the U.S.A. under a different brand. Here is a link: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00REDJ2UU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Huh. Reasonable price for some people.
Yah. Pro light at a pro price.
Is there no way to purchase these and have them shipped to the states? Love the idea of doing high speed photography with these and your videos sold me.
Hey. My written review on the blog has links to get them from china, rebranded.
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I really wish that I had noticed your blog link as I went ahead and ordered the Jibbei EF200. Here's hoping the fan is as quiet as others have claimed. So... is a review for that Pixapro MK II coming soon? I'll refrain from asking too much about it but can I at least ask if it addresses your minor issues of MK I?
I'm subscribed now, learning much from your channel. Cheers!
+Heddrick No issues so far with the Pixapro II. I didn't have much time to fully test it yet but it should be great.
The one thing I really want to see improved is the size/weight. It's now a bit smaller and lighter than the older ones, but when you put three together it's still quite a large kit.