@@JettyYuki True, but the "creators will" thing sure saves Konami's ass and is in their best interest as they don't have to reward invested players, keep the money for themselves (despite Yu-Gi-Oh being insanely expensive, especially competitively, and Konami making more than enough money to reward players that top), and instead, just use this excuse as a cop out every time. Kinda disgusting of Konami, honestly. I respect Kazuki Takahashi, but I'm sure it was impossible for him to foresee how big and expensive Yu-Gi-Oh would get, and when other popular TCGs have better prizing (like Magic and Pokemon) I'm not sure if he would still be opposed to cash prizing. That's not even taking into consideration NOWADAYS the immense uproar from the playerbase where even Konami had to recently ask a survey on what better prizing would players want, acknowledging how horrible the current prizes are in tournaments. Kazuki Takahashi didn't run the competitive game or have any say in that, he had little input on card arts and minor stuff, but even his OCG cards like Magi Magi Magician girl and other cards were subject to Western censorship/localization against his will. So, if he became more aware of the current competitive Yu-Gi-Oh landscape, and how Konami is milking them and making the game easily accessible for OCG on top of poor prizing, he could very well change his mind. Also, with the Nintendo deal, surely they can hand out the outdated Switch --- 2017, and March of that year, so it's closer to 2016, and worth less than a hundred lol --- alongside actual prizes of value, thus both satisfying their playerbase and their deal with Nintendo.
@@datruthgt5609 yeah I don’t exactly understand the whole thing but there’s could also be a legal reason? Not sure. IMO stuff that stuff give us the cash’s
The secondary market affects card prices so badly. To be specific, you have yugitubers that encourage "investing" to make money, and as a result create artificial scarcity driving prices up. They even have discord groups to coordinate buyouts.
@JettyYuki USA's Yugioh community would still be ultra-greedy, borderline gangsters, and would still continue to make the game financially inaccessible for the average person all so they can "go plus". That term makes me sick btw, because of an incident when I was a teenager where I had a ton of stuff stolen and people in the shop started laughing at me about "how minus I went". I'm autistic so I was seen as nothing more than a meal ticket to those sick bastards. That's the USA Yugioh community for ya.
It's worth noting that other card games have competitive decks under $300 as well, so its not unheard of. Pokemon is a famous example, but even Lorcana's competitive decks are only in the $200-$300 range. How is the Disney card game cheaper to get into competitively than Yugioh? How do you fumble that hard?
@@JettyYuki why changing it bussiness model? Yugioh has been for 25 years on the top 5 best selling card games. The problem is not Konami, the real problem are the players who keep consuming and consuming the product even if they dislike it. Big companys only listen to sales, not complains.
I completely agree. That's why in my video at 11:30 onwards believe I mentioned if people leave it will change something in the pro talking section. My only real point is that changing their business model wouldn't effect them, THAT much. they'd still make Millions to Billions, They're simply able to make more so they do. We can't change the people paying for cards all we can really do is change the laws. Unless the game dies, inwhich it will force them to change it.
Konami also never promised real world monetary gains. Konami has NO obligation to follow suit. Fake pearl clutchers on varying socials like Reddit are extremely entitled.
Yeah the internet has made the gap so large. The people who eat sleep and shit yugioh are the ones who “top” no normal hobbiest can enjoy this game anymore. I’ve tried. It needs to be a fucking lifestyle to do even ok at. (I do top and win at locals) Its so time consuming to “learn the combos”, study the meta, keep up with prices, not to mention the different shops and communities. Its become so “exclusive” and it was inclusive for the first half. Now its tier 0 or nothing. I don’t have 100 extra hours a week to study and look up info just to play for 5-8 hours once a week successfully. I loved this game for 25 years. The new cards are cool tho (not fiendsmith, snake eyes etc) but the new yubel, hero, and legacy meta level stuff keeps me interested. Hoping stuff like fighting flameswordsman become viable soon. Edison has been therapeutic
I do agree with alot of that, however I will say I only really give this hobby a few hours per week and I'm able to keep up with the best decks. But I do agree it is very time consuming and they do need to simplify it for a wider audience!
@@angelcandelaria6728 Normal hobbyists can top all the time and do. The problems start honestly when you want to compete nationally on a regular basis. It’s at that point you need to choose whether the game is important enough to spend more time on than one of your other hobbies.
OCG has a more balanced distribution of accessibility for its playerbase. For the TCG, accessibility is leaned disproportionately towards those who can pay ridiculous prices. When the game stops being fun, if the reward (financial reward) doesn't at least equate to the investment or if people lose value on their investment, people will stop investing into the game. It's not that hard to figure out.
Inb4 random person says "kazuki Takahashi said he didn't want cash prizing" that actually never happened he simply equated adding cash prizing to gambling. New flash!! Opening packs is already gambling. Konami makes it's best money on GAMBLING!!
@@JettyYuki Japanese gambling laws, which some corpos in Japan already know how to circumvent to SOME degree, i.e., Konami, combined with some corpos bribing(or lobbying, pick your poison) the right japanese politicians... though that's just my guess...
As an european,let me tell you,here cards are still shortprinted,BUT the cards cost even more since they are in localized languages ( if you aren't English)
no they don't? cards have always been much cheaper in europe. compare engraver on cardmarket to tcgplayer. cards are often 50-100% more expensive in america
$1200/year is still kind of crazy tbh, TCGs are just too damn expensive. A couple years ago i got back into yugioh again along with my mom We gave ourselves basically a budget of $100 each a month to slowly build ourselves relatively competitive decks, the cheaper ones that were possible at the time Staples were so expensive But we were having some fun with it. Around the time our decks were almost finished, we got hit by the next banlist and our decks dropped hard in viability. Given the choice to scramble and learn something new and drop more money on more cards to make up for what we lost... we just decided to stop playing Yugioh. Spending all this money is one thing but for Konami to be like (BUZZER) Try Again! That was incredibly demoralizing.
@@lovelydumpling yeah it’s a lot of buying the best decks and selling before it gets banned and a lot of newer players or players who aren’t aware of it are going to get hit by that an lose out hard! Me myself I tend to play the same deck forever or just Rogue!
The main issue is that you get between 1/2 to 1/3 of the high rarity cards we do in the OCG. The OCG gives you between 4-6 Ultra Rares which is the equivalent of our 2 secret Rares. On top of getting 6-8 supers compared to our 4 ultra Rares. You can see this in the price of all OCG cards being roughly 50-60% less. The multiple rarities are absolutely part of it, but they will help treat the symptoms rather than cure the issue.
I knew something was wrong when they scrapped Ultimate/ Ghost Rares from mainline TCG sets starting with Breakers of Shadow. But holy shit I never imagined how bad it would get.
The TCG is so ass, I wish we had it how the OCG has it, so much nicer getting the card you want in any rarity... bro give us that shit... not in just rarity collection
@@JettyYuki well where would we even start? just write a letter and send it to... who? cuz I'm down, we need it to change or our cards are gonna be worthless when we're older 😢
@@welp_dang There are loads of ways, at the end of the video I gave a few examples. Send the Letters to your local Goverment is the first one. we'd basically have to get every state to spam them with letters daily until the laws Changed. Eventually they'd do it just to stop the letters. Other Options Include Protests, I doubt we'll all go to japan to sit outside their offices BUT we can spam their social medias if we get a large enough group. At every Event that they give you a survey to fill out write down every thing you hate about the current game. if every single person does it we can get it changed. it would just take a lot of collective effort. Konami is a company and ain't going to change unless we physically force them too. with laws. money so on.
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Yeah so EUROS to USD real quick is about. 268. Just to quickly put that together. I mostly mean 3 boxes should be enough for each deck in the set not just if you buy the singles.
@@GoldCobra314 nah honestly my bad for not like ultra clarifying. One of those things I rather cut out or like, I said in my brain but not outloud A.D.D style but that’s what I more or less meant haha
it's not a poker tournament, it's yugioh... it's not supposed to be a job... you're not supposed to make a living playing yugioh. the whole thing was designed from the ground up to sell you pieces of paper.
@@kingjames4886 it’s not supposed to be a Job and yet multiple people make a living off of this game. Including vendors, UA-camrs and even pros. Heck there are people who make a living camping, shooting, insert any hobby here. Yu gi oh isn’t any different in that regard. But, given that statement is rather irrelevant I’ll just say if competitors at events are expected to just spend 1000’s of dollars at or for an events without proper compensation the events will slowly die. That is the main issue. Even Konami themselves recognises that.
They don't even need to print staples as the prize cards. Literally slap a Dark Magician or Blue-Eyes on the prize card and call it a day. Those would be incredibly desirable especially if they had a unique rarity for the prize cards.
Yeah it used to be fun collecting, trading and making friends. The phones and computers turned into a whole different monster. I miss writing on paper and physical interactions. Now you need to be a stock market investor, international traveler, and prodigy just to compete
Anything the internet touched was ruined, it's a lot easier to win in card names now because everything is on UA-cam, you can just search for a deck that took first place at a regionals, YCS, or locals and practice a little and do well.
*remembers the days of CCV being a prize card, or DAD being a $1000 set.* Yeah, sure, playground yugioh was and will always be cheap. The meta has always been expensive, with up swings and down swings as time has gone on.
I wish they’d continue speed duels as it was an affordable way into the hobby and it got me back into it , I’ve been a Yugioh fan since the Original anime and have always played games like tag force or legacy of the duelist etc . After 5Ds ended I stopped getting cards as it was just getting too pricey , when the speed duel boxes came out I got a few of em and an odd tin etc and it’s been fun but I still can’t justify a singular pack . Speed duel boxes were so good value , I’d also love a duel devastator reprint and some older structure decks as they felt good value . I think the games just struggling getting new players due to it and it’s forcing cards prices up as most people tend to try and do meta play
I could care less about prize support. Prize support is only a problem for those who might actually win. Trust me prize support is the smallest of all yugioh's problems. It just has large voices complaining.
@@josephcourtright8071 that has nothing to do with what I said. I spoke about how it affects people’s motivation to play the game long term. You are one person. Some people when they spend upwards of thousands of dollars would like to at least break even if they win a tournament
@@josephcourtright8071 EVERY competitive game that wants to stay relevant needs a pro scene. There have to be players in the game that play it for a living. This is healthy. Doesn't have to be many but they need to exist. Bad prizes are really bad for the pro scene which is bad for the whole game.
The fact that decks become unplayable after one or two years makes the prices even more devastating. Compare this to mtg, where formats change aswell but in eternal format it's not like a tier 1 deck becomes a meme deck after one year.
‘If you look at the prove on…’ Of course it will look expensive if you take the prices from websites that overcharge for cards and then only consider the highest rarity for the entire deck breakdown. I say this to say the entire Fiendsmith package cost me 300. Yu-Gi-Oh has cost isdues but a lot is honestly needlessly inflated to doom about the game being overly exoensive.
While it's true that individual deals can be found outside of major platforms, TCGplayer is the primary source for most players to determine card market value. It's understandable why people use it as a benchmark, even if it might overstate prices in some cases. That said, building a competitive deck on a budget is definitely achievable with careful planning and resourcefulness. Just not by all that's the main issue.
@@JettyYukiI’d say it is doable by all people. I think the core issue is a lot of people have other interests besides YGO that they don’t want to give up in order to compete at the highest possible level.
@@mrbubbles6468 Of course everyone is CAPABLE of doing it, whether or not they actually do is the main issue. Most people just use TCGplayer for convenience. If people were aware of cheaper options and willing to search, they would. But the reality is, most people buy cards quickly and worry about price later. Multiple rarities for each card could help balance the market in that area. For the second part; While skill is important, time investment is a huge factor. Expecting someone to drop everything for a game that barely rewards them seems unreasonable. It's a card game not a way of life. People have families, Jobs, other things. People should not be expected to put all their time into something. Especially a card game. If it was the Gym, Health Things that I would argue are actually important that makes sense but giving up interests for something so minimal doesn't make sense.”
@@JettyYuki You absolutely should be expected to put your time into if you want to compete at the highest level. And it is several weekends out of the year if people were being honest. It’s why the issue always comes back fo prizing and YGO not paying enough.
Usually meta staple catds in ocg are 15euros or 30dollars MAXXXX Ours are 60euros usually. Oh and all the tierb2 meta cards in ocg cost 3euros max where as here it can still cost you 30euros a pop
Dang, sorry to hear that prices (and the market as a whole) for YuGiOh has gotten this out of hand. I have never played the game competitively and have never had the desire to, but I have in the past dabbled and enjoyed it casually. I enjoyed the game on a casual level, but when it came to competitive play there were always other TCGs that I enjoyed more at that level. Got into Flesh and Blood a few years ago (then had to take a two year hiatus to get finances in order), and I'm so glad I did! I love the game, and the creators genuinely seem to care about the playability and cost of playing the game. A lot of your suggestions for how YuGiOh could be made more affordable are already done by Legend Story Studios. Cash prizes for big events (significant ones), exclusive promo rarity versions of cards for Top 8 of said events (gold foils), multiple rarity printings of important cards in each box, etc. If you haven't checked the game out yet I'd say it's worth giving a shot and seeing if you like it. I believe the game has already turned the Big 3 into the Big 4. Hey, a mass migration of MtG players a few years ago seemed to have caught Wizard's attention if even just a little bit, maybe the same thing could happen for YuGiOh if they notice themselves losing players to a game which does all the things you listed and at least tries to respect players' investment and preserve the affordable playability of the game.
@@Arsilfarid I could see that for sure! Appreciate your sincerity means a lot! Hopefully Konami gets the message but if they don’t, it’s only them they have to blame!
The highest I ever saw the cards was when 5Ds came out. 5Ds had such a huge impact. It was 10 dollars a pack and any of those big special boxes were like 50 dollars or more I can only imagine how much a real deck cost around that time. then around 2014, is when the price dropped back down significantly, and then around like 2016 it started to go back up again, and I guess overall it's going up again? Fun... Pokemon is also at an all-time high rn I'd imagine it's been like that since 2020 I'm sure. The last time I bought a pack was in 2018 or 2019 for Pokemon same for Yugioh, too. I've only been buying singles.
Low key I think secondayrt market is the audience and not the actual players with the way they're designing product. You can't look at how hard it is to pull a Magia and not think that was intentional. They've been doing this for 20+ years. Your average player might buy some for fun, but if the rates are bad but have really good cards (see now Dueling Mirrors), the only explanation is retailers can(and need to) buy in bulk to pull chase cards and resell to players. It's such a shitty practice but people will keep buying because they aren't willing to not buy product and participate in another card game or hobby.
@@KevinTangYT it’s true, tbh I spoke to a lot of players if Yu gi oh dies we’re not playing another card game. We enjoy Yu gi oh the most I don’t specifically buy products because of the bad pull rates but I do win packs and places at events and use it on store credit TOO buy packs and boxes. But i would’ve got those packs anyway now I just get a whole box for free all at once. But I don’t buy a box or packs unless i specifically need to or it’s for a video the chance to neg is way too high.
People like Ruxin would hate this but I agree, make cards in multiple rarities and stop the short printing ( Konami has they have stopped doing that but that’s total BS) and while we are at it in, make the card in a higher quality! I hate seeing the like fibres that make up the card and the cards themselves are so thin and flimsy.
@@jak_2 American Prints I would assume. They are flimsy and easily ripped. I don’t think Ruxin would hate it ngl, cause he’d still be able to chase the highest rarity version. Eg. The Qcrs, starlights and such
No its you idiots who sell the cards for less than what they cost at retail. If someone buys a deck just to see some idoit selling it for 10 cents. Mt cards shoukd at least be worth what i paid for.
This especially true with the newer speed duel cards in SGX4. Seeing the fiber pulp in the cards is a total turn off on what used to be the best quality print cards in the TCG
They will only change if the product stops selling enough and/or tighter restrictions on short printing (its still happening regardless of you remind me of that official Konami post about the subject.) Konami on the TCG side could print multiple rarties in core/deck building sets but do so only in specific products? It's possible and they would profit more not less. The secondary market isn't integral part of Yugioh. Ooof. I can already hearing Mikhol 40 crying and ranting to the contrary (like he usually does in his clickbait he passes off as content).
Because you mentions "players with ego" in the last part of "Prizing" section. The trouble, from my perspective, they're Konami TCG target for selling cards. They can spend unlimited money. And they're easy to control; kill the previous expensive META, then they will spend money again for new expensive META deck. Konami really handle this game like a P2W game. . And this is why the competitive YGO looks boring (very monotone). They kill the diverse format pretty fast. But didn't even touch problematic "Tier 0 deck" until they have a replacement for another problematic deck. The competitive YGO just want to show "why you must buy this deck, even if it expensive".
Yeah, I don't disagree with you. I believe Konami 100% puts banlists around their expensive cards to avoid losing sales, printing cards in a specific way to sell more cards. They can get away with it so they do. It's Incredibly painful and the only way to change it is to force them! Sad reality. Appreciate your comment
@@JettyYuki they’ve admitted as much. Expensive cards sell product. People get tired after x amount of time so banlist is timed for exactly when the current deck starts to get complaints or stop being supported. Sometimes they can’t hit a deck because it’s getting support in a couple months.
@@mrbubbles6468 Definitely seems like a business strategy. It's frustrating when banlists feel timed to maximize profits rather than balance the game. I'm Hoping they find a better system soon!
@@JettyYuki I doubt they can. It’s the same in the OCG and TCG. They’d need to completely redesign their product cycle and that’s not happening because a minority of people don’t want to play casually if they are burning out in the format.
We already have an Eternal and Rotation format. It’s the banlist. Konami also obviously tried soft and hard rotation, people kicked up so much of a dhit storm that the local card shops threatened Konami. God bless the OCG. And in the West smaller such things happened. There is a reason some sets get skipped over.
I don't know why everyone has their panties in a twist over the cost of Yu-Gi-Oh suddenly. It hasn't just gotten expensive, it's been that way for like 15 years at this point. You must all be too young to remember DAD format. If anything the cost of a top deck has decreased when compared to box prices and general inflation. The only thing that has changed thanks to power creep is the top decks have become much faster and more consistent, so rather than a game being a back and forth over several turns it now hinges on whether you drew the correct hand traps in your opening hand to interrupt your opponents long convoluted combo. I suspect what people are actually frustrated about is not that the cost of top decks is increasing (because objectively speaking it isn't), but that the amount of fun they are getting for that money is going down and so the juice is no longer worth the squeeze.
OCG is Asian Countries. TCG is European countries and Americas. Also in the box that came with Bonfire and Snake Eye Poplar they printed those cards as Ultra Rare, and the cards weren't short printed either, and guess what? We still had $90 Bonfires, and $90 Poplars. The vendors control the pricing, and the competitive players are the ones who keep the prices high. The problem really is that we need to sync our game with the OCG so that nobody can create prices based on what the meta in the OCG is. That would create a market where the price to buy in is low initially and then grows as people figure out the meta, and who knows we might have an era where the OCG and the TCG develop their meta much differently as well.
@@CHA0SBLEEDS I think everyone is aware about the OCG and Tcg differences. See here’s the thing. Supply and demand if it’s more likely you can get a card guaranteed for a price even if that price is stupid. People will pay that instead of chancing the box and maybe not getting my it.
@@JettyYuki You said in your video, "the OCG can't legally print cards any other way". Then go on to cite European laws, but Europe has the same cards as the West. The reality is, the reason cards are so expensive right now in the TCG is because we are pretty much in a tier 0 format. So vendors can easily price things because they know what cards will be popular in the meta. If the banlist "fixes" that then we will could go back to "reasonable" prices again, as vendors can't easily predict the meta.
ultras in side sets are the same as secrets in core sets in terms of rarity, the prices are that high due to a combination of rarity & box cost, ocg cards are cheap because the overall rarity is lower (due to multiple printings & better ratios from less pack fluff) AND the box prices are cheaper over there too.
Not really playing yugioh but I gotta say that for the fact cards are powercrept out of existence every year or two, high prices (even regular high) just aren't justified. In mtg in most formats you can easily spend 1k for a deck and it will stay relevant for a long time or even some of the staples. In yugioh it seems like tier 1 decks become rogue tier after one year or less and a year later they become unplayable meme decks.
@@bdarecords_ that is true but when decks have gimmicks to them. Eg, can play under shifter they do tend to still be playable. Though yes power creep in yu gi oh is stupid.
They are steadily decreasing, have you looked at the Data from Cardmarket / TCG Player? Especially regarding older collectibles, but also most Meta cards. What do you mean they are increasing?
If they print multiple rarities of high end staples and engines in boxes we wouldn’t “need” to reprint cards ,unless for alt art cards . By doing that the collectors market would flourish.
Just saying, you can't print just a playset of a card without destroying the other cards in a sheet. Most likely they need to print 50+ copies and destroy 20+ copies that don't print out as well. Which again will make the cards value under $ 1,000 each due to print numbers. Also, why would they print only 30 copies of a staple card that can be worth $ 1,000 rather than include that special rarity in a set and make $ 10 million. Just doesn't make sense. Konami could lower the YCS tournament fee and the amount of packs you get at the gate, essentially eating the rest of the cost to rent out the space. Other competitors already do this, so I see this as a reasonable change.
@@joooja that. Is a great question. More or less, the Secondary market throws a bunch of prices at the wall when cards come out they get mega high, and slowly drop until people buy them. Given how rare some cards are people are more inclined to grab at higher costs. Why do they do this? I really don’t know.
i cannot afford this game as a high school student, times are hard man. (btw cash prizes are unable to be done due to an agreement with Nintendo as to why they love their switches they had a deal and got a ton of switches and they are still giving them out to this day) im probably going to quit comp all together if the game continues at this rate with card prices and tier 0 formats
@@NoHsHad0 i can’t judge you for that man, remember Stun is always an option for these formats! Runick Stun, Kashtira decks that stay relatively the same price and hit the hardest
@@NoHsHad0 hahaha I get that. Hear me out though. Budgetary wise. Play the deck, win packs, pull decent cards, sell the cards, buy not stun. $$$ profit
It's just supply and demand. Some people/whales are willing to pay these prices in order to win tournaments. But yes, it's a disgrace to pay three digit prices for some paper cards. I would get it if it's a collectable like a LOB Exodia head graded PSA X but staples? Naaaah. GTFO here maaan !! 😂🙄
I touched apon it briefly but I guess I could've gone into it in more depth! More or less In the TCG Engraver is Printed in QCR An Secret in the OCG it's printed in QCR, Secret, Ultra and ulti basically diluting how hard it is to get the card. you can get it in a shiner rarity but it doesn't raise the price of the card for no reason!
@@Mountain_Peak_TCG haha all good. OCg Means original Card game. and the TCG means Trading Card game. The Ocg and TCG are two completely different formats. The Tcg is europe, America and Australia. OCg is Asian Countries. cards from the OCG can't be played in the TCG and vice versa. ( Also I have a Beginneer Guide coming out soon. well soonish ahha)
@@Mountain_Peak_TCG I think it’ll be alright, the deck still revolves around normal monsters so we’ll have to wait an see. But negates are never bad for an archetype
Why would komani change? Despite all the crying and whining about card prices you’ll will still be the first to buy said expensive product. As long you’ll put money in their pockets they have no reason to change
Fun fact, I don’t buy boxes. Or product. :) if you had watched the entirety of the video I mentioned that Konami won’t change unless forced too. So I have no idea why people keep commenting “why would they change” when I literally explain it in the video.
@@JettyYuki yes i agree specialy if they make product like pokemon were they print almost complete competitive deck but i dont see Konami doing that sadly. And i personaly prefer eternal format but it just a personaly opinion.
I can respomd to your tittle.... because yugioh players doesnt have self respect and buy the cards then start tp cry because the game is in a bad situation
I like you pointed out "Yu-Gi-Oh is a hobby"-the ultimate defeater to your complaining(something you didn't have to do)- and then just ignore completely ignore it. Is there something in the water across the pond?
Man, I like something and I can't Constructively criticize aspects of it that should change where you're from? that seems like a bad view to hold. but you're entitled to it and I wish you the best.
@@JettyYukiNever said anything even resembling this "you can't criticize something you like" argument, it just bewilders me that you would include the ultimate defeater to any critique of pricing(the fact that Yu-Gi-Oh is a hobby and not something you have to indulge in) without even trying to argue against with anything other than "bad vibes?" It's hilariously short sighted and silly, and implies that you assume everyone watching is just going to agree with you without critically thinking about what you're saying
God bless you
an Jesus be with you
Yugioh being the only TCG out of the big 3 to not have cash prizing while being the most expensive to get into is crazy
@@s4ds4d it is but recently I have found out it’s because of deals with Nintendo and the creators will for the game
@@JettyYuki True, but the "creators will" thing sure saves Konami's ass and is in their best interest as they don't have to reward invested players, keep the money for themselves (despite Yu-Gi-Oh being insanely expensive, especially competitively, and Konami making more than enough money to reward players that top), and instead, just use this excuse as a cop out every time. Kinda disgusting of Konami, honestly.
I respect Kazuki Takahashi, but I'm sure it was impossible for him to foresee how big and expensive Yu-Gi-Oh would get, and when other popular TCGs have better prizing (like Magic and Pokemon) I'm not sure if he would still be opposed to cash prizing. That's not even taking into consideration NOWADAYS the immense uproar from the playerbase where even Konami had to recently ask a survey on what better prizing would players want, acknowledging how horrible the current prizes are in tournaments.
Kazuki Takahashi didn't run the competitive game or have any say in that, he had little input on card arts and minor stuff, but even his OCG cards like Magi Magi Magician girl and other cards were subject to Western censorship/localization against his will. So, if he became more aware of the current competitive Yu-Gi-Oh landscape, and how Konami is milking them and making the game easily accessible for OCG on top of poor prizing, he could very well change his mind.
Also, with the Nintendo deal, surely they can hand out the outdated Switch --- 2017, and March of that year, so it's closer to 2016, and worth less than a hundred lol --- alongside actual prizes of value, thus both satisfying their playerbase and their deal with Nintendo.
@@datruthgt5609 yeah I don’t exactly understand the whole thing but there’s could also be a legal reason? Not sure.
IMO stuff that stuff give us the cash’s
I feel like you're smoking something. Is magic not the most expensive game? When 4 copies of a card can cost you 200 each
Magic is significantly more expensive than YGO
The secondary market affects card prices so badly. To be specific, you have yugitubers that encourage "investing" to make money, and as a result create artificial scarcity driving prices up. They even have discord groups to coordinate buyouts.
Sure but first and foremost Konami artificially in creases the prices by only printing chase cards in secret rare
yeah that does annoy me a little but it also makes sense on their part so I can't exactly blame them either.
@@Dinsho_ MM that's also very true they could fix that by printing in multiple rarities
The worst part about this is that Europe and Latin America has to suffer high prices due to the sins of the USA community.
@JettyYuki USA's Yugioh community would still be ultra-greedy, borderline gangsters, and would still continue to make the game financially inaccessible for the average person all so they can "go plus". That term makes me sick btw, because of an incident when I was a teenager where I had a ton of stuff stolen and people in the shop started laughing at me about "how minus I went". I'm autistic so I was seen as nothing more than a meal ticket to those sick bastards. That's the USA Yugioh community for ya.
It's worth noting that other card games have competitive decks under $300 as well, so its not unheard of. Pokemon is a famous example, but even Lorcana's competitive decks are only in the $200-$300 range. How is the Disney card game cheaper to get into competitively than Yugioh? How do you fumble that hard?
@@Aigis31 I’m not sure. Overall what i did mean was 3 boxes is $300 therefore you should get all the cards in the set. Eg. The whole deck.
The people who wants to earn money playing games are playing the wrong game.
I agree, but that doesn't mean Konami shouldn't change something.
@@JettyYuki why changing it bussiness model? Yugioh has been for 25 years on the top 5 best selling card games. The problem is not Konami, the real problem are the players who keep consuming and consuming the product even if they dislike it. Big companys only listen to sales, not complains.
I completely agree. That's why in my video at 11:30 onwards believe I mentioned if people leave it will change something in the pro talking section.
My only real point is that changing their business model wouldn't effect them, THAT much. they'd still make Millions to Billions, They're simply able to make more so they do.
We can't change the people paying for cards all we can really do is change the laws.
Unless the game dies, inwhich it will force them to change it.
Konami also never promised real world monetary gains. Konami has NO obligation to follow suit. Fake pearl clutchers on varying socials like Reddit are extremely entitled.
Yeah the internet has made the gap so large.
The people who eat sleep and shit yugioh are the ones who “top” no normal hobbiest can enjoy this game anymore.
I’ve tried. It needs to be a fucking lifestyle to do even ok at. (I do top and win at locals)
Its so time consuming to “learn the combos”, study the meta, keep up with prices, not to mention the different shops and communities.
Its become so “exclusive” and it was inclusive for the first half.
Now its tier 0 or nothing.
I don’t have 100 extra hours a week to study and look up info just to play for 5-8 hours once a week successfully.
I loved this game for 25 years.
The new cards are cool tho (not fiendsmith, snake eyes etc) but the new yubel, hero, and legacy meta level stuff keeps me interested.
Hoping stuff like fighting flameswordsman become viable soon.
Edison has been therapeutic
I do agree with alot of that, however I will say I only really give this hobby a few hours per week and I'm able to keep up with the best decks.
But I do agree it is very time consuming and they do need to simplify it for a wider audience!
@@angelcandelaria6728 Normal hobbyists can top all the time and do.
The problems start honestly when you want to compete nationally on a regular basis.
It’s at that point you need to choose whether the game is important enough to spend more time on than one of your other hobbies.
Its too pricey and annoying unless your too big of a fan to care about the cost of buying the new meta deck every few months
OCG has a more balanced distribution of accessibility for its playerbase.
For the TCG, accessibility is leaned disproportionately towards those who can pay ridiculous prices.
When the game stops being fun, if the reward (financial reward) doesn't at least equate to the investment or if people lose value on their investment, people will stop investing into the game. It's not that hard to figure out.
Yes. Literally always yes.
Inb4 random person says "kazuki Takahashi said he didn't want cash prizing" that actually never happened he simply equated adding cash prizing to gambling. New flash!! Opening packs is already gambling. Konami makes it's best money on GAMBLING!!
I think there is some other legal reason?
I’m not sure ngl but either way it’s stupid
@@JettyYuki Japanese gambling laws, which some corpos in Japan already know how to circumvent to SOME degree, i.e., Konami, combined with some corpos bribing(or lobbying, pick your poison) the right japanese politicians... though that's just my guess...
@@theazuredemon4854 It wouldn't shock me ngl
As an european,let me tell you,here cards are still shortprinted,BUT the cards cost even more since they are in localized languages ( if you aren't English)
Well, that's rough.
I hope we can eventually get better prices for everyone!
no they don't? cards have always been much cheaper in europe. compare engraver on cardmarket to tcgplayer. cards are often 50-100% more expensive in america
$1200/year is still kind of crazy tbh, TCGs are just too damn expensive.
A couple years ago i got back into yugioh again along with my mom
We gave ourselves basically a budget of $100 each a month to slowly build ourselves relatively competitive decks, the cheaper ones that were possible at the time
Staples were so expensive
But we were having some fun with it.
Around the time our decks were almost finished, we got hit by the next banlist and our decks dropped hard in viability. Given the choice to scramble and learn something new and drop more money on more cards to make up for what we lost... we just decided to stop playing Yugioh.
Spending all this money is one thing but for Konami to be like (BUZZER) Try Again!
That was incredibly demoralizing.
@@lovelydumpling yeah it’s a lot of buying the best decks and selling before it gets banned and a lot of newer players or players who aren’t aware of it are going to get hit by that an lose out hard!
Me myself I tend to play the same deck forever or just Rogue!
IMO I think Konami has 0 reasons to change things as it is. Reality is people are buying and product is sold out, no denying that fact.
Yeah, that why I spoke In the video about actual ways to change things. Not just asking Konami
The main issue is that you get between 1/2 to 1/3 of the high rarity cards we do in the OCG. The OCG gives you between 4-6 Ultra Rares which is the equivalent of our 2 secret Rares. On top of getting 6-8 supers compared to our 4 ultra Rares. You can see this in the price of all OCG cards being roughly 50-60% less. The multiple rarities are absolutely part of it, but they will help treat the symptoms rather than cure the issue.
I knew something was wrong when they scrapped Ultimate/ Ghost Rares from mainline TCG sets starting with Breakers of Shadow.
But holy shit I never imagined how bad it would get.
I wish we saw it haha
The TCG is so ass, I wish we had it how the OCG has it, so much nicer getting the card you want in any rarity... bro give us that shit... not in just rarity collection
We'd have to work pretty hard to get it, but it is completely possible. MAYBE with time
@@JettyYuki well where would we even start? just write a letter and send it to... who? cuz I'm down, we need it to change or our cards are gonna be worthless when we're older 😢
@@welp_dang There are loads of ways, at the end of the video I gave a few examples.
Send the Letters to your local Goverment is the first one. we'd basically have to get every state to spam them with letters daily until the laws Changed. Eventually they'd do it just to stop the letters.
Other Options Include Protests, I doubt we'll all go to japan to sit outside their offices BUT we can spam their social medias if we get a large enough group.
At every Event that they give you a survey to fill out write down every thing you hate about the current game.
if every single person does it we can get it changed. it would just take a lot of collective effort.
Konami is a company and ain't going to change unless we physically force them too.
with laws. money so on.
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300€ max for a Deck? Thats fucking crazy. A complete Deck should be 50€ max
Pokémon and Dragon Ball show that this works
Yeah so EUROS to USD real quick is about. 268. Just to quickly put that together.
I mostly mean 3 boxes should be enough for each deck in the set not just if you buy the singles.
@@JettyYuki ohhh i got that wrong
3 boxes for all cards as a playset sounds great^^
@@GoldCobra314 nah honestly my bad for not like ultra clarifying. One of those things I rather cut out or like, I said in my brain but not outloud A.D.D style but that’s what I more or less meant haha
We need a ranting video about the new evil hero support😂
it's not a poker tournament, it's yugioh... it's not supposed to be a job... you're not supposed to make a living playing yugioh.
the whole thing was designed from the ground up to sell you pieces of paper.
@@kingjames4886 it’s not supposed to be a Job and yet multiple people make a living off of this game. Including vendors, UA-camrs and even pros.
Heck there are people who make a living camping, shooting, insert any hobby here.
Yu gi oh isn’t any different in that regard.
But, given that statement is rather irrelevant I’ll just say if competitors at events are expected to just spend 1000’s of dollars at or for an events without proper compensation the events will slowly die. That is the main issue.
Even Konami themselves recognises that.
They don't even need to print staples as the prize cards. Literally slap a Dark Magician or Blue-Eyes on the prize card and call it a day. Those would be incredibly desirable especially if they had a unique rarity for the prize cards.
@@Aigis31 this is also very true
Yeah it used to be fun collecting, trading and making friends. The phones and computers turned into a whole different monster.
I miss writing on paper and physical interactions.
Now you need to be a stock market investor, international traveler, and prodigy just to compete
It did used to be much simpler, I do hope they slow things down a lil.
Anything the internet touched was ruined, it's a lot easier to win in card names now because everything is on UA-cam, you can just search for a deck that took first place at a regionals, YCS, or locals and practice a little and do well.
*remembers the days of CCV being a prize card, or DAD being a $1000 set.*
Yeah, sure, playground yugioh was and will always be cheap. The meta has always been expensive, with up swings and down swings as time has gone on.
I wish they’d continue speed duels as it was an affordable way into the hobby and it got me back into it , I’ve been a Yugioh fan since the Original anime and have always played games like tag force or legacy of the duelist etc . After 5Ds ended I stopped getting cards as it was just getting too pricey , when the speed duel boxes came out I got a few of em and an odd tin etc and it’s been fun but I still can’t justify a singular pack . Speed duel boxes were so good value , I’d also love a duel devastator reprint and some older structure decks as they felt good value . I think the games just struggling getting new players due to it and it’s forcing cards prices up as most people tend to try and do meta play
@@TECHNICALfalcon it truly is a mess. Honestly if boxes were just more consistent with pulls and guaranteed more would sell for sure
I could care less about prize support. Prize support is only a problem for those who might actually win. Trust me prize support is the smallest of all yugioh's problems. It just has large voices complaining.
@@josephcourtright8071 I hear what you’re saying but it also effects peoples motivations to play the game long term.
@@JettyYuki I will play the game long term if I'm having fun. If you want to make money, there are far easier and more stable ways to accomplish that.
@@josephcourtright8071 that has nothing to do with what I said. I spoke about how it affects people’s motivation to play the game long term. You are one person. Some people when they spend upwards of thousands of dollars would like to at least break even if they win a tournament
@@josephcourtright8071 EVERY competitive game that wants to stay relevant needs a pro scene. There have to be players in the game that play it for a living. This is healthy. Doesn't have to be many but they need to exist. Bad prizes are really bad for the pro scene which is bad for the whole game.
The fact that decks become unplayable after one or two years makes the prices even more devastating. Compare this to mtg, where formats change aswell but in eternal format it's not like a tier 1 deck becomes a meme deck after one year.
‘If you look at the prove on…’
Of course it will look expensive if you take the prices from websites that overcharge for cards and then only consider the highest rarity for the entire deck breakdown.
I say this to say the entire Fiendsmith package cost me 300.
Yu-Gi-Oh has cost isdues but a lot is honestly needlessly inflated to doom about the game being overly exoensive.
While it's true that individual deals can be found outside of major platforms, TCGplayer is the primary source for most players to determine card market value. It's understandable why people use it as a benchmark, even if it might overstate prices in some cases. That said, building a competitive deck on a budget is definitely achievable with careful planning and resourcefulness. Just not by all that's the main issue.
@@JettyYukiI’d say it is doable by all people. I think the core issue is a lot of people have other interests besides YGO that they don’t want to give up in order to compete at the highest possible level.
@@mrbubbles6468 Of course everyone is CAPABLE of doing it, whether or not they actually do is the main issue. Most people just use TCGplayer for convenience. If people were aware of cheaper options and willing to search, they would. But the reality is, most people buy cards quickly and worry about price later. Multiple rarities for each card could help balance the market in that area.
For the second part; While skill is important, time investment is a huge factor. Expecting someone to drop everything for a game that barely rewards them seems unreasonable. It's a card game not a way of life. People have families, Jobs, other things. People should not be expected to put all their time into something. Especially a card game.
If it was the Gym, Health Things that I would argue are actually important that makes sense but giving up interests for something so minimal doesn't make sense.”
@@JettyYuki You absolutely should be expected to put your time into if you want to compete at the highest level.
And it is several weekends out of the year if people were being honest.
It’s why the issue always comes back fo prizing and YGO not paying enough.
300 for an engine is so ridiculous. That itself shouldnt be normal
Usually meta staple catds in ocg are 15euros or 30dollars MAXXXX
Ours are 60euros usually. Oh and all the tierb2 meta cards in ocg cost 3euros max where as here it can still cost you 30euros a pop
Yeah that's also a pain even with a change it's not enough, we seriously need the OCG printings
Dang, sorry to hear that prices (and the market as a whole) for YuGiOh has gotten this out of hand. I have never played the game competitively and have never had the desire to, but I have in the past dabbled and enjoyed it casually. I enjoyed the game on a casual level, but when it came to competitive play there were always other TCGs that I enjoyed more at that level.
Got into Flesh and Blood a few years ago (then had to take a two year hiatus to get finances in order), and I'm so glad I did! I love the game, and the creators genuinely seem to care about the playability and cost of playing the game. A lot of your suggestions for how YuGiOh could be made more affordable are already done by Legend Story Studios. Cash prizes for big events (significant ones), exclusive promo rarity versions of cards for Top 8 of said events (gold foils), multiple rarity printings of important cards in each box, etc.
If you haven't checked the game out yet I'd say it's worth giving a shot and seeing if you like it. I believe the game has already turned the Big 3 into the Big 4. Hey, a mass migration of MtG players a few years ago seemed to have caught Wizard's attention if even just a little bit, maybe the same thing could happen for YuGiOh if they notice themselves losing players to a game which does all the things you listed and at least tries to respect players' investment and preserve the affordable playability of the game.
@@Arsilfarid I could see that for sure!
Appreciate your sincerity means a lot!
Hopefully Konami gets the message but if they don’t, it’s only them they have to blame!
Jeff jones using the luxury argument was just stupid as hell especially when you look at ocg and other card games.
idk who that is but this game is barely a luxury.
@@JettyYuki his argument was it’s a luxury because you don’t need it to survive lol
@@dpacula63 by that logic neither are Tampons.
And I’m sure theirs are a lot of women who would disagree with that. HAHA
The highest I ever saw the cards was when 5Ds came out. 5Ds had such a huge impact. It was 10 dollars a pack and any of those big special boxes were like 50 dollars or more I can only imagine how much a real deck cost around that time. then around 2014, is when the price dropped back down significantly, and then around like 2016 it started to go back up again, and I guess overall it's going up again? Fun... Pokemon is also at an all-time high rn I'd imagine it's been like that since 2020 I'm sure. The last time I bought a pack was in 2018 or 2019 for Pokemon same for Yugioh, too. I've only been buying singles.
@@computersandgaming6664 why chance it when you can get what you want gatenteed right?
Great insight man thanks
@@danielperkins4897 always happy to help
As long as people keep buying these cards, the price will only go up.
@@diegoleite4074 not wrong
Low key I think secondayrt market is the audience and not the actual players with the way they're designing product. You can't look at how hard it is to pull a Magia and not think that was intentional. They've been doing this for 20+ years. Your average player might buy some for fun, but if the rates are bad but have really good cards (see now Dueling Mirrors), the only explanation is retailers can(and need to) buy in bulk to pull chase cards and resell to players. It's such a shitty practice but people will keep buying because they aren't willing to not buy product and participate in another card game or hobby.
@@KevinTangYT it’s true, tbh I spoke to a lot of players if Yu gi oh dies we’re not playing another card game. We enjoy Yu gi oh the most
I don’t specifically buy products because of the bad pull rates but I do win packs and places at events and use it on store credit TOO buy packs and boxes.
But i would’ve got those packs anyway now I just get a whole box for free all at once.
But I don’t buy a box or packs unless i specifically need to or it’s for a video the chance to neg is way too high.
People like Ruxin would hate this but I agree, make cards in multiple rarities and stop the short printing ( Konami has they have stopped doing that but that’s total BS) and while we are at it in, make the card in a higher quality! I hate seeing the like fibres that make up the card and the cards themselves are so thin and flimsy.
@@jak_2 American Prints I would assume. They are flimsy and easily ripped.
I don’t think Ruxin would hate it ngl, cause he’d still be able to chase the highest rarity version. Eg. The Qcrs, starlights and such
No its you idiots who sell the cards for less than what they cost at retail. If someone buys a deck just to see some idoit selling it for 10 cents. Mt cards shoukd at least be worth what i paid for.
This especially true with the newer speed duel cards in SGX4. Seeing the fiber pulp in the cards is a total turn off on what used to be the best quality print cards in the TCG
@@sparkplug2356 I have never seen that but that sounds gross
They will only change if the product stops selling enough and/or tighter restrictions on short printing (its still happening regardless of you remind me of that official Konami post about the subject.)
Konami on the TCG side could print multiple rarties in core/deck building sets but do so only in specific products? It's possible and they would profit more not less.
The secondary market isn't integral part of Yugioh. Ooof. I can already hearing Mikhol 40 crying and ranting to the contrary (like he usually does in his clickbait he passes off as content).
I have no idea who that is, but I'm interested to know why you think they would profit more?
"it's about the money shpida mAn" ☕🗿
In the great words of PETER PARKER!
“I NEED THAT MONEY”
Because you mentions "players with ego" in the last part of "Prizing" section. The trouble, from my perspective, they're Konami TCG target for selling cards. They can spend unlimited money. And they're easy to control; kill the previous expensive META, then they will spend money again for new expensive META deck. Konami really handle this game like a P2W game.
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And this is why the competitive YGO looks boring (very monotone). They kill the diverse format pretty fast. But didn't even touch problematic "Tier 0 deck" until they have a replacement for another problematic deck. The competitive YGO just want to show "why you must buy this deck, even if it expensive".
Yeah, I don't disagree with you.
I believe Konami 100% puts banlists around their expensive cards to avoid losing sales, printing cards in a specific way to sell more cards.
They can get away with it so they do.
It's Incredibly painful and the only way to change it is to force them!
Sad reality.
Appreciate your comment
@@JettyYuki they’ve admitted as much. Expensive cards sell product. People get tired after x amount of time so banlist is timed for exactly when the current deck starts to get complaints or stop being supported.
Sometimes they can’t hit a deck because it’s getting support in a couple months.
@@mrbubbles6468 Definitely seems like a business strategy. It's frustrating when banlists feel timed to maximize profits rather than balance the game. I'm Hoping they find a better system soon!
@@JettyYuki I doubt they can. It’s the same in the OCG and TCG. They’d need to completely redesign their product cycle and that’s not happening because a minority of people don’t want to play casually if they are burning out in the format.
We already have an Eternal and Rotation format. It’s the banlist.
Konami also obviously tried soft and hard rotation, people kicked up so much of a dhit storm that the local card shops threatened Konami.
God bless the OCG.
And in the West smaller such things happened. There is a reason some sets get skipped over.
set dont exactly get skipped over they just get the cards allocated to other products to pat them
I don't know why everyone has their panties in a twist over the cost of Yu-Gi-Oh suddenly. It hasn't just gotten expensive, it's been that way for like 15 years at this point. You must all be too young to remember DAD format. If anything the cost of a top deck has decreased when compared to box prices and general inflation.
The only thing that has changed thanks to power creep is the top decks have become much faster and more consistent, so rather than a game being a back and forth over several turns it now hinges on whether you drew the correct hand traps in your opening hand to interrupt your opponents long convoluted combo. I suspect what people are actually frustrated about is not that the cost of top decks is increasing (because objectively speaking it isn't), but that the amount of fun they are getting for that money is going down and so the juice is no longer worth the squeeze.
We all know the prizing is trash so that Josh won't have enough money to build a Paleo submarine
@@joeymayson8279 THE REAL REASON HAS BEEN LOCATED!
Josh deserves paleo support
minerva being an expensive prize card during the time was good. it's not great it was only way to get it.
@@applegoblinjeans I think it being the only way to get certain cards is bad but one of a kind rarities is definitely a good fix
@@JettyYukiI think prize cards should be a play set of staples that are alt art or full art with good foil.
@@eduardowhiteknight6110 Full Arts are an amazing Idea. Though I'd want them so as Prize cards idk. Maybe full art OTS Ulti for prize??
@@JettyYuki yeah
@@eduardowhiteknight6110
W video good editing
Thanks G I really appreciate you! I do think I should've walked on set instead of just appearing though hahah
@@JettyYuki :)
OCG is Asian Countries. TCG is European countries and Americas.
Also in the box that came with Bonfire and Snake Eye Poplar they printed those cards as Ultra Rare, and the cards weren't short printed either, and guess what? We still had $90 Bonfires, and $90 Poplars.
The vendors control the pricing, and the competitive players are the ones who keep the prices high. The problem really is that we need to sync our game with the OCG so that nobody can create prices based on what the meta in the OCG is. That would create a market where the price to buy in is low initially and then grows as people figure out the meta, and who knows we might have an era where the OCG and the TCG develop their meta much differently as well.
@@CHA0SBLEEDS I think everyone is aware about the OCG and Tcg differences.
See here’s the thing. Supply and demand if it’s more likely you can get a card guaranteed for a price even if that price is stupid. People will pay that instead of chancing the box and maybe not getting my it.
@@JettyYuki You said in your video, "the OCG can't legally print cards any other way". Then go on to cite European laws, but Europe has the same cards as the West.
The reality is, the reason cards are so expensive right now in the TCG is because we are pretty much in a tier 0 format. So vendors can easily price things because they know what cards will be popular in the meta. If the banlist "fixes" that then we will could go back to "reasonable" prices again, as vendors can't easily predict the meta.
@@CHA0SBLEEDS No i was bringing up two countries with different laws to the US.
ultras in side sets are the same as secrets in core sets in terms of rarity, the prices are that high due to a combination of rarity & box cost, ocg cards are cheap because the overall rarity is lower (due to multiple printings & better ratios from less pack fluff) AND the box prices are cheaper over there too.
Not really playing yugioh but I gotta say that for the fact cards are powercrept out of existence every year or two, high prices (even regular high) just aren't justified. In mtg in most formats you can easily spend 1k for a deck and it will stay relevant for a long time or even some of the staples. In yugioh it seems like tier 1 decks become rogue tier after one year or less and a year later they become unplayable meme decks.
@@bdarecords_ that is true but when decks have gimmicks to them. Eg, can play under shifter they do tend to still be playable.
Though yes power creep in yu gi oh is stupid.
They are steadily decreasing, have you looked at the Data from Cardmarket / TCG Player? Especially regarding older collectibles, but also most Meta cards. What do you mean they are increasing?
If they print multiple rarities of high end staples and engines in boxes we wouldn’t “need” to reprint cards ,unless for alt art cards .
By doing that the collectors market would flourish.
And everyone will finally have an even playing field instead of only the “rich people” who have more disposable income
@@eduardowhiteknight6110 I Completely Agree with you
Just saying, you can't print just a playset of a card without destroying the other cards in a sheet. Most likely they need to print 50+ copies and destroy 20+ copies that don't print out as well. Which again will make the cards value under $ 1,000 each due to print numbers. Also, why would they print only 30 copies of a staple card that can be worth $ 1,000 rather than include that special rarity in a set and make $ 10 million. Just doesn't make sense.
Konami could lower the YCS tournament fee and the amount of packs you get at the gate, essentially eating the rest of the cost to rent out the space. Other competitors already do this, so I see this as a reasonable change.
Most of the players are meta
And most play the same few decks meaning prices rise on those decks
Why are cards so expensive if there is no prizing?
@@joooja that. Is a great question.
More or less, the Secondary market throws a bunch of prices at the wall when cards come out they get mega high, and slowly drop until people buy them. Given how rare some cards are people are more inclined to grab at higher costs.
Why do they do this? I really don’t know.
americans, you need to chill with your prices. i just bought engraver for 60€ here in europe and it's still 100$ in america.
@@Lewt_2B $80 last time I checked.
Also I’m Australian 💖
But you’re technically not wrong about me being in America haha
i cannot afford this game as a high school student, times are hard man. (btw cash prizes are unable to be done due to an agreement with Nintendo as to why they love their switches they had a deal and got a ton of switches and they are still giving them out to this day) im probably going to quit comp all together if the game continues at this rate with card prices and tier 0 formats
@@NoHsHad0 i can’t judge you for that man, remember Stun is always an option for these formats! Runick Stun, Kashtira decks that stay relatively the same price and hit the hardest
@@JettyYuki i will never deprive myself of the little fun i have left when playing comp by playing Stun 😭 (water decks will be meta next year trust)
@@NoHsHad0 hahaha I get that. Hear me out though. Budgetary wise. Play the deck, win packs, pull decent cards, sell the cards, buy not stun. $$$ profit
@@JettyYuki you might be onto something here
@@NoHsHad0 it’s the only reason to play stun haha
It's just supply and demand. Some people/whales are willing to pay these prices in order to win tournaments. But yes, it's a disgrace to pay three digit prices for some paper cards. I would get it if it's a collectable like a LOB Exodia head graded PSA X but staples? Naaaah. GTFO here maaan !! 😂🙄
yeah i completely agree
too bad I never had any of the more valuable ones...
Me about to drop yugioh for yhe same reason i left magic $$$
Completely understandable
@@JettyYuki pokemon is so funny that a whole deck costs $40
@@kiranearitachi I’d be tempted but tbh if I wasn’t playing yu gi oh i don’t really want to play anything else
You can buy 10000 Commons & Rares for 100 - 200€, is that not cheap enough?
What’s the difference between OCG and TCG?
I touched apon it briefly but I guess I could've gone into it in more depth! More or less In the TCG Engraver is Printed in QCR An Secret in the OCG it's printed in QCR, Secret, Ultra and ulti basically diluting how hard it is to get the card. you can get it in a shiner rarity but it doesn't raise the price of the card for no reason!
@@JettyYuki i’m nee to yu gi oh and only recently started playing. All of these acronyms are new to me😂 thank you though. This helps!
@@Mountain_Peak_TCG haha all good.
OCg Means original Card game.
and the TCG means Trading Card game.
The Ocg and TCG are two completely different formats.
The Tcg is europe, America and Australia.
OCg is Asian Countries.
cards from the OCG can't be played in the TCG and vice versa.
( Also I have a Beginneer Guide coming out soon. well soonish ahha)
@@JettyYuki Thank you so much! What do you think about the new blue eyes support coming out?
@@Mountain_Peak_TCG I think it’ll be alright, the deck still revolves around normal monsters so we’ll have to wait an see. But negates are never bad for an archetype
Why would komani change? Despite all the crying and whining about card prices you’ll will still be the first to buy said expensive product. As long you’ll put money in their pockets they have no reason to change
Fun fact, I don’t buy boxes. Or product. :)
if you had watched the entirety of the video I mentioned that Konami won’t change unless forced too. So I have no idea why people keep commenting “why would they change” when I literally explain it in the video.
because Rare and High Demand
I’d Pin this if I didn’t already have one. Wish I could pin multiple people.
Yu-Gi-Oh is going the way of MTG magic the greed
You're not wrong but at least MTG has decent prizng ay
Well rotation format will make the game more expensive and yugioh will be less yugioh. PS: I accept you face buddy.
@@boumerxphajba I appreciate the kind words!
It could make it more expensive but also less expensive if they print cards that already exist!
@@JettyYuki yes i agree specialy if they make product like pokemon were they print almost complete competitive deck but i dont see Konami doing that sadly. And i personaly prefer eternal format but it just a personaly opinion.
@@boumerxphajba well hopefully they’d just keep both formats alive. But I can see why you wouldn’t want that given Konami is Konami
Hobby yugioh is cheap, competitive yugioh is not. U can build casual decks for days for cheap.
That is true depending on the format, Heck when Dragonmaids came out that was expensive for no reason.
Make the YGO TCG the OCG
THAT"S WHAT WE WANT BABY
Would you want the OCG ban list?
Considering Maxx C derangement syndrome TCG players have. I don't think so
@@soukenmarufwt5224 with the new Maxx cs coming out I don’t think it matters. Ngl
Konami is evil. That's why
@@the199dirtrider hahaha idk about evil but they are a company and they don’t care about you.
Praise Jesus! 🗣🗣🔥🔥🙌🏾
Dope video. Really hoping something major changes in this game when it comes to the pricing of it
@@reiji_vt4262 you an I both!💖
Praise Jesus 💖
I can respomd to your tittle.... because yugioh players doesnt have self respect and buy the cards then start tp cry because the game is in a bad situation
😂right on point
@@masonqiu3712 hahaha I’m glad you agree
or hear me out stop playing tournaments lol the prizes are not worth it anyways
@@death-dealer5847 they aren’t but I have a lot of friends at locals :P
Thats why I only play Master Duel. I can spend 20-30€ every few month if I want a deck and need the last cards but I dont have to
Master duel can be chill for that, I should play more
Maybe buy the cheaper ocg cards and learn what they do and play with them :) and have the English Text ready to read in chase
See that sounds like a plan but you’re not allowed to play OCG cards in the TCG. You’ll just get game loses everytime it comes up.
I like you pointed out "Yu-Gi-Oh is a hobby"-the ultimate defeater to your complaining(something you didn't have to do)- and then just ignore completely ignore it.
Is there something in the water across the pond?
Man, I like something and I can't Constructively criticize aspects of it that should change where you're from? that seems like a bad view to hold.
but you're entitled to it and I wish you the best.
Why that defeats his complaint?
@@MrJuan_Vzla Objectively, It doesn't. it's a non argument. haha
@@JettyYukiNever said anything even resembling this "you can't criticize something you like" argument, it just bewilders me that you would include the ultimate defeater to any critique of pricing(the fact that Yu-Gi-Oh is a hobby and not something you have to indulge in) without even trying to argue against with anything other than "bad vibes?" It's hilariously short sighted and silly, and implies that you assume everyone watching is just going to agree with you without critically thinking about what you're saying