Cicero - On the Ends of Good and Evil: Epicureanism

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  • @VoxStoica
    @VoxStoica  7 місяців тому +18

    On Amazon: geni.us/EndsOfGoodAndEvil
    LinkTree: linktr.ee/VoxStoica
    Intro - 0:10
    For Epicureanism 1 - 16:51
    For Epicureanism 2 - 28:23
    For Epicureanism 3 - 52:44
    Against Epicureanism 1 - 1:09:31
    Against Epicureanism 2 - 1:28:56
    Against Epicureanism 3 - 1:59:49
    Against Epicureanism 4 - 2:22:48
    Against Epicureanism 5 - 2:51:56
    Parting Words - 3:16:08
    End Links - 3:17:13

  • @dustinmasterson411
    @dustinmasterson411 7 місяців тому +19

    What a treat to see this uploaded.

  • @smaanan
    @smaanan 7 місяців тому +12

    Some of the most mature and wholesome content on UA-cam.

    • @darillus1
      @darillus1 4 місяці тому

      totally agree, UA-cam can be a cesspool of mindless instant gratification, need more wholesome content like this

  • @mmka5434
    @mmka5434 7 місяців тому +15

    Fist comment! This is fantastic!
    You have no idea how much I love this channel & it's Seneca material!

  • @sahamal_savu
    @sahamal_savu 7 місяців тому +7

    Always glad to hear another awesome philosophy audiobook read by you 👍 I also noticed you tend to choose great translations, thank you once again!

  • @Human_Evolution-
    @Human_Evolution- 7 місяців тому +9

    I love that you are still going. You are the best. Better than AI!

    • @VoxStoica
      @VoxStoica  7 місяців тому +18

      AI will undoubtedly win in the long run, but for the time being it can kiss my stoic ass

    • @cumoforspotify
      @cumoforspotify 6 місяців тому

      @@VoxStoica As a writer and a painter... I feel useless. But I shall take this as a stoic, since I consider myself one, and I shall study agriculture.

  • @Selmy-o3d
    @Selmy-o3d 4 місяці тому +1

    My favourite Narrator, pretty much listen to him every single day.

  • @marcusaurelius8605
    @marcusaurelius8605 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you! Your channel is outstanding. I find myself going to sleep to Meditations more than once a week. I can not express how valuable the door you have opened to these wise words from the past. All the best!

  • @klosnj11
    @klosnj11 7 місяців тому +1

    What beautiful oration and recording quality. Your voice is smooth, calming, and yet engaging, like stained glass. Well done.

  • @cesarflores2744
    @cesarflores2744 7 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for your hard work. Is a great treat to the soul.

  • @tedkelley8316
    @tedkelley8316 5 місяців тому +2

    Thank God for you uploading this content. I am on a literacy quest and keep running into the worst readers/ai bullshit. Reading out loud is a performance art for which you have an impressive proficiency, thereby amassing one of the most valuable repositories of primary source material concerning stoicism. Also thank you for not absolutely bastardising it by giving into the performance; you have legitimacy in your aims, the voice of an orator, without using platform for personal agrandissement socially, and it appears (lest I, in claiming you to BE, err in so doing, the equanimity befitting of a Philosopher, all of which quite invokes my curiosity in your person that is hard to reckon with my having extolled the virtue of your quietude. Anyways, I thank you for your contribution to a System of Principle devised by Philosophy by which men such as yourself reward men such as Seneca and Cicero, and in turn might one day be returned such honour by the only heapers-of-praise immune from suspected flattery-the greater men to come who shall render their (Nietzsche enters the chat) Good on ours, and so the wheel of time spins forth, with recurrence as propulsion.

    • @VoxStoica
      @VoxStoica  5 місяців тому

      Thank you for your kind words. AI is getting very good. I feel it still lacks the correct intonation and emphasis for anything serious, although I'm sure that will change in time.

    • @darillus1
      @darillus1 4 місяці тому

      @@VoxStoica can you upload more of this to your Spotify channel, u only seem to have Epictetus' enchiridion uploaded atm

  • @silveriojohnson9401
    @silveriojohnson9401 7 місяців тому +8

    Wow I've studied stoicism for a while now but I never knew Cicero was such a boss. Epictetus is still my favorite, but Cicero is a close second!

    • @cumoforspotify
      @cumoforspotify 6 місяців тому

      My is Seneca, and probably always will be.

  • @Amivgr1
    @Amivgr1 7 місяців тому +1

    YES!! Another gem from vox stoica ❤❤

  • @DontThinkso-kb9tc
    @DontThinkso-kb9tc 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for all your wonderful work!

  • @domakkeiss2271
    @domakkeiss2271 Місяць тому +1

    Much appreciated, sir!

  • @TheEruditeCritic
    @TheEruditeCritic 7 місяців тому +2

    Awesome! More Cicero please! I would love if you narrated one of his important speeches! Like some of the Phillipics, or pro Caelio or pro Milone

  • @nfragala
    @nfragala 6 місяців тому

    These videos should be mandatory learning.

  • @jeanvaljean4218
    @jeanvaljean4218 7 місяців тому

    Thank you, Robin! Always glad to see a new video from you.
    I want to suggest doing an audiobook of "As a man thinketh" by James Allen. It's a great and short (1 hour) read and I think it's right up the alley of Stoicism

    • @VoxStoica
      @VoxStoica  7 місяців тому +2

      I'm aware of it. I'll add it to the list!

    • @jeanvaljean4218
      @jeanvaljean4218 7 місяців тому

      @@VoxStoica Thank you! I listen to your version of the Enchiridion every week to keep me on track, would love to add that one to the playlist since it's the second one I read on a weekly basis.

    • @PK-wv4st
      @PK-wv4st 7 місяців тому

      Can you please add Nichomachean ethics by Aristotle perhaps later on. I understand how difficult it is to make this videos, but in any case i appreciate the work that you do. 🙏

  • @michaelkennedy3275
    @michaelkennedy3275 7 місяців тому

    This is an excellent discourse

  • @darillus1
    @darillus1 4 місяці тому

    such a great reading, btw when can we expect a part 2?

  • @vichtorman4595
    @vichtorman4595 6 місяців тому

    Always thank to Mr.vox
    For me i can't buy the book because of my country and my high school life thank you for The audio books.

  • @MostVitalPlayer
    @MostVitalPlayer 7 місяців тому

    Thank you so much!

  • @erinaltstadt4234
    @erinaltstadt4234 7 місяців тому

    Thank you very much

  • @asdfasdf-yv4vt
    @asdfasdf-yv4vt 7 місяців тому

    Thank you! keep it up!

  • @wwaater
    @wwaater 3 місяці тому

    THANK YOU

  • @ragaber
    @ragaber Місяць тому

    Very good! Will you do the rest of the book?

    • @VoxStoica
      @VoxStoica  Місяць тому +1

      Yes, it's all recorded I just need to do the video

  • @bobtarmac1828
    @bobtarmac1828 7 місяців тому

    Most appreciated 👈⭐️

  • @nikhilck629
    @nikhilck629 5 місяців тому

    Could you please consider making a video on Arthur Schopenhauer’s philosophy?

  • @aaronjohnstone2800
    @aaronjohnstone2800 2 місяці тому

    Would you do Aristotle work?

  • @stargazer3640
    @stargazer3640 7 місяців тому +1

    Cicero!! 😍

  • @jeffsullivan4182
    @jeffsullivan4182 7 місяців тому +2

    Champion

  • @Lemosa3414
    @Lemosa3414 6 місяців тому

    May I suggest Heraclitus ? (Stoicism)

  • @luciusseneca2715
    @luciusseneca2715 4 місяці тому

    Scipio's Dream from Cicero's de Republica would be great.

  • @fvdham
    @fvdham 7 місяців тому +1

    I request in further videos you put the foot notes not on the bottom which is the same spot as the subtitles.

  • @ct-hv1uz
    @ct-hv1uz 7 місяців тому +1

    He pre-owned the trolls. What a baller

    • @ritchiediggs
      @ritchiediggs 7 місяців тому

      Standard philosophy procedure - address possible objections.

  • @life42theuniverse
    @life42theuniverse 6 місяців тому

    Kinetic pleasures are dopamine? Static pleasures are serotonin?

    • @life42theuniverse
      @life42theuniverse 6 місяців тому

      Pleasures decline with duration

    • @thieph
      @thieph Місяць тому

      The stupidest materialistic questions

  • @grimmseti
    @grimmseti 7 місяців тому +1

    How did these Romans know about Atoms? This was before anyone even knew about cells?

    • @VoxStoica
      @VoxStoica  7 місяців тому +4

      The Greeks hypothesised it. Democritus essentially said that things could keep being broken down until eventually you got to a smallest unit which he called an atom. Then different types of atoms made up different things.
      It wasn't necessarily a widely held view though.
      Many classical philosophers asserted that you could determine everything about the universe through reason alone. The problem with this is that even if you get it right, other people don't necessarily believe you without evidence. So it's hard to build on anything over time without proving it through experimentation. Which Democritus' atomic theory never was.

    • @klosnj11
      @klosnj11 7 місяців тому +1

      If you read "On the Nature of Things" by Lucretius (another Epicurian) its absolutely nuts how much they get right, or at least close, juat by means of reason. Its difficult to imagine that they would have succeeded so much just by "thinkin real hard like". But alas.
      Also, Lucretius is a joy to read because he loves throwing in flowery and poetic passages just to liven things up, and says as much.

  • @_catra
    @_catra 7 місяців тому +9

    too complicated, i understand nothing
    I've been listening to this for an hour already and the only thing I've realized is that pleasure is when nothing hurts

    • @vichtorman4595
      @vichtorman4595 6 місяців тому +1

      Don't worry he will make summery of it

    • @kholtman1603
      @kholtman1603 3 місяці тому

      I'm sorry, you just are not endowed with purposeful action and discord, or you are not trying hard enough. Close your mind open your ears feel the words, not stir'd emotions in the mind, feel the words with your heart.

    • @EricOwensFlute
      @EricOwensFlute 2 місяці тому +2

      You’re on the right track. You probably just haven’t read very much. It’s like working out. The more you do it the better you get. Just struggle through it and get a few main points out of it. Don’t worry about understanding everything on the first go.

    • @stancanner
      @stancanner Місяць тому +2

      I found it hard too. I’ve been making notes and that helps a lot. Things slowly get clearer.

  • @matthewclay6718
    @matthewclay6718 6 місяців тому

    How do they know about atoms🫠

    • @Eagle1042
      @Eagle1042 5 місяців тому +1

      It has been a general concept for several milenia that there were and are small building blocks that make up the matierial world around us. Atomic theory and general theorizing/philosophizing about the building blocks that make up material around us began to be hypothesized and debated about long before the first electro-microscope was invented that actually allowed people to see those building blocks. I find it amazing that such things and concepts were being discussed by men like Cicero over 2000 years ago.