1967 Super Reverb VS a 1964 Vibroverb. [ Is this the holy grail tone ? ]
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Hi fellas, heres a look at a 1967 Fender Super reverb against a 1964 Vibroverb . The Super has been modded by Tommy Cougar [ custom by Cougar ] and im also using Tommys reverb tank and aftermarket speakers, where as the Vibroverb is an all original 1964 European import model. In the room these are very different sounding amps, i was always under the impression that the super was bright till i played a Vibro, The Super is a wall of sound where as the Vibro surrounds you!!
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Edit.... Rookie mistake.. the vibroverb video had the microphone positioned backwards, so MAKE SURE to check the next video For pure unadulterated VIBRO Tones..... this time with the mic right :]
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Right on man, your attitude is on parr with mine, I will be getting inspiration through your playing and I'm still playing guitar for 30 plus years now off and on. I just love it. Keep on going, i wish you the best of luck. Your gifted with music and much more brother.
7/2024: Hello From The Future. I just found you. Most Enjoyable. Very Nice Playing. I like them both. Love the 15", for a different sound. The Vibroverb is a sweet change from everything else. I bought a new '65 Super Reverb reissue a year ago. Always have loved them. Yours is no exception.
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.047 mid cap vs .022/ smaller transformer and of course the 15 JBL all come together to absolutely make a difference.
Awesome vid....thanks. I have an original 1965 SR with 1971 reconed CTS alnicos. Orgi speakers were swiss cheese frame CTS ceramics. I also made two Vibroclones. Both from Bandmaster Reverb heads . One is a 1969 in combo cab with a single 15" Altec 418B and they other is 1971 BMR cloned to a 2x10 loaded with late 1960s Jensens reconed PF10s. That combo can be mated with a 1963 Treomolux cab I have. Love all old Fenders. They have the tone.
Just brilliant Richie!!!! 🙏🙌❤️🙏🙌❤️!!!!!! I’m trying to trade my Matchless Chieftain for a 2006 Custom Shop Handwired RI 64 Fender Vibroverb!!!! I bought one when they came out and sold it 🤦♂️
Arrrrr man - that’s the journey of TONE !
They both sound fantastic but the glassy chime of the 4/10s of a Super Reverb is a dream. Vintage 10" CTS alnico's are my fav
Great tones from both amps. Nice demo playing. Thanks for the post.
They both sound great! But, there’s just something special about that super...it sounds so fucking brilliant!
Alex McKinney thank you so much!!!
The super is Very special indeed , a lot of love has gone into it from family members, friends ( Nik sevigny ) and Tommy!!
This one is tuned beautifully and I’m happy that I’m finally capturing it right!!
Thanks for tuning in 👊🏼🦍👊🏼
Vibroverb way better in a lot of ways..
Yup. I'm right in there with a very early 68' super reverb, a 70' BM reverb cloned to 64' Vibroverb and a 66' pro reverb. 4x10, 1x15, and 2x12. Something for every occasion
Both amps are fantastic! Going to pick up a 71 Super Reverb this week in a trade. Very excited to hear it!
I'm getting to your channel late, but I'm so happy to see you added this addition. You work your tail off and deserve the tools to make your art!
The Vibroverb will tell on you if you're not on your game. Great video
mine scolds me at every tiny mistake that I dont hear unplugged so....
I play unplugged mostly and save on my elec bill:) why wear out the 15" JBL paper and my 6L6s?
Coming back for some ear love! Got Covid so this is soothing away the blues
Lovely playing and feel! 🤟🏻
Wow. What a nice surprise to find your channel. Really enjoyed your playing.
As always dude, really honest and just straight up tone talk!! Keep it coming man 🙌🤘
Anthony Brooker you got it buddy!! Great things coming this year!! Stoked to have you on board 👊🏼👊🏼
Really can't beat a rosewood fretboard , sweet sweet playing 👍👍👍👍
Sadly, it's done for. Make way for.........laurel!?
Rob Phillips True that my friend!! Scary that it’s going to be a thing of the past!! Such a good Tonewood!!
Thank you!!! The feedback is really appreciated 👊🏼🦍👊🏼
I love the Vibroverb, always have.
Bought a 2nd hand Super Reverb in '78 - had it 25 years - too old to lug it now...
both sounded friggin SWEET!! your playing makes em sound that way too. very nice
White Fish thank you ⚡️⚡️
Wow brother, fantastic chops!!! Sounds to me like both amps have been dialed in exceptionally well also. Gonna continue to check out your channel. Excellent stuff!
You really should put out some instrumental music, please post info if it's already out there, love your playing. Killer tone, awesome phrasing. Cheers brother.
WTH...run them in stereo or in mono together...great bass responce too w the VV.....and spankin that front end w the SR as well unless I have them backwards lol but yes different but both great Very cool Yours and Niks are my fave channel's Best of luck my friend :) TONE
Masterful. I have a ‘66 Super Reverb and I’ll never let’er go.
James, Damn Straight!!! Powerful Tones!!1
I own a 1964 Vibroverb and a 1964 Super. Part of the reason the Vibroverb is so bright is because you've got a JBL D130F in it. Play your Strat through both the Super and Vibroverb simultaneously. The sound is superb.
Timothy Lawrence yeah that’s a Great Wall of tone !!! My ear has really adapted to the Vibroverb 15 now and I love it !! I’ve actually just turned the bright switch off , which for a long time I ran with it on !! The 15 all day long for me ⚡️⚡️
Love your playing, could listen for hours, do you have any cds
Mark Creamer thank you so much man that sincerely means a lot ⚡️⚡️
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Hello, as you will notice the vibroverb has a JBL 15 inch speaker with an aluminum dust cover This gives that bright sound. SRV changed the speaker to different speaker. A lot of musicians changed their speakers.
I prefer the tone of the vibroverb over the super which seems a bit bright in tone versus a warmer more mid range tone of the vibroverb
Quick remedy, throw an EQ pedal in your rig.
Great video and playing richie... looking forward to seeing more from you soon.
bootzilla82 thank you so much for watching !! The support means a great deal to me !! Respect 👊🏼
It's my understanding the Vibroverb and Super circuits were almost identical. But there are a very few components with slightly different values.
Great stuff
With the way you play I figured you did music for a living! There should’t be any reason why you need to do anything else. Man you rock. I’m looking forward to seeing more videos.
Danny Pace thank you so much ❤️
Bloody hell man, these sound sublime....I've a limited amount of kidneys I can flog!!! The reverb in both are beautiful, can't beat the real thing
Very nice demo. A bit more chime in the SR with 10” speakers. Vibroverb has a rounder sound because of a 15” speaker to my ears. I have a Vibrolux R and a Super R, both are AB-763. A favorite circuit among most guitar players.
Interesting that you say the Vibroverb felt more 3 dimensional and the Super more direct. I have heard numerous people describe the Super as sounding like its sound comes from all around you. I’m wondering, do you always play with the open back up against a wall? Because that will make it behave more like a closed back cab.
Both amps are iconic for a reason and sound great....to my ear, it is hard to beat the warmth and depth of a '64 Vibro....unless it's a '63 Vibro....😁.....
Rick Boone couldn’t agree more !! I thought nothing would beat the super but the vibro IS the tone , at least to my ears ⭕️
Thanks for tuning in 😊
I love super reverbs it just sounds perfect. I like 1x15s but sometimes they have a tendency to sound...... boxy. But both sound really good. The vibro got more mids
I love my 67 super reverb
HEY FRET JUNKIES! i love having you in front of the camera and hearing from you more.i think 2019 will be a great year for your channel. wow construction work thats a really hard job i remember i helped out a friend for one day doing that and it nearly killed me and that was one day! it must be hard a the moment doing construction and then making these videos on your days off.
ben galvin Thank you so much!!! That kinda feedback keeps me pumped!!!
Yeah plasterer by trade , it’s hard work but I enjoy it!! You condition to it like anything else!!
The trick is having a VERY understanding wife hahah 👊🏼🦍👊🏼
Knew I had it right on facebook. Right on man.
Michael Delgado this man knows tone
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Hey Richie, wowww your playing and your sound is sooo close to Stevie's!! For real bro!!!!
Please tell me about your guitar and your pickups? It all sounds sooo close to SRV!!!!!
Than you! You are a inspiration!!
-Rick
Great tones. Great playing... cheers
Thank you Jeremy :]
great player !
Friends with Chris Robinson, no wonder he learned how to play! 😜 It's the super to me hands down. Vibro sounds darker but not in a good way to me. It would be great to hear it in the room. It almost sounds like a blanket over the speaker (a thin blanket though)😁. As my playing and ear evolve I'm coming to like brighter sounds more & more. Even preferring 10's over larger speakers. So that could be the case. It's like the 10's have the little guy syndrome and demand attention & respect.
Loved the video & the playing was superb as usual and one of my complaints with the old videos was you didn't talk enough, so wrap on my brother! 👍👏🏿🤘✌🏿
mr501mc Oh I think he might’ve showed me a thing or two ha ha !! I think going forward I will get another video Done of the vibro I had the microphone backwards , ( in description , )so the test wasn’t completely fair , but by the time I had realised the video was already exporting and these kinda vids take the best part of a day to complete !! Learn from my mistakes and front foot forward n all that 😊😊
I to lean towards the brighter side of things , keep an eye on the page for a accurate Vibro clip soon !!
Thanks so much for tuning in !! I sincerely appreciate the feedback 👊🏼🦍👊🏼
@@FretJunkies I've had the notification bell clicked for a long time on your channel so staying tuned is not a problem! 💪
I hear what you’re saying, I’m sensitive to the ‘blanket’ thing, too. But the Vibro took my preference today; to me, it felt like listening in a hot, steamy room. Loved it! But both were lovely. I might lean toward the Super tomorrow!!
Love your videos, Ritchie!!! Do some loop station jams! Show us how you find which licks work well and how you find them on the fretboard. You’re a blues beast! Cheers, brother!
chiiitmeng that’s s fantastic idea !! That will CERTAINLY be in one of the future uploads !!
Stay tuned new vid dropping soon !!
Richie 🦅
i have watched a bunch of your vids and obviously you are a glorious guitarist- I do think this is your most melodic piece- I would love a tutorial or just as good- take the B-roll of the fretboard angle from this video and just upload that.
ill look into this , thank you :]
Best tone ever but you'll definately need a roadie when gigging these amps.
The only answer is to run them both together in stereo
Fantastic video brother!
Mike McGraw thank you so much !! Here’s to starting out right foot forward this year 👊🏼
For a british guy, you sound like you need to be in Austin.. Hey did you hear Ally Venable yet? She is a 22 year old Texas gal. She plays a lot of Jimi an SRV songs. Actually has real good tone and plays great. She is young, age 22, and her voice still sounds like a teenager, but her playing is real good. Check her out she has live videos on youtube.
Pick your own Austin guitarist, and have fun with the joke.
I just plain like the Super without knowing the technical terms. Seems I can tell more about the player going through the Super. I love Fender vintage amps and this is a good example of why. Again, without me knowing how to express it...... my ears know!
I saw an interview with Cesar Diaz where he said he replaced the super reverb output transformers with those from a twin and the ones in stevie's Vibroverbs with those from a bassman.
Deliberate impedance mismatch?
Which song did you play , or you were improvising ?
Mixture of improvising and influence ! 😊
outstanding man
Yul Vazquez Thank you 👊🏼🦍👊🏼
I just sold my ‘67 super and I’m kicking myself in the ass right now, it was the cleanest I’d ever seen and all original. I couldn’t vibe with the original alnico’s and didn’t want to swap the speakers out. Really wish the vibroverbs weren’t so damn expensive. I thought I wanted a more modern amp with blackface spirit but I think I’m just going to be on the hunt for another vintage super. Any newer/used amps/brands I should be looking at? I’m fortunate that I live near Austin, TX and can pick up a vintage fender for a decent price at Austin vintage guitars and I’ll do that if I can’t find anything better. I take your opinions very seriously, love and appreciate your tone and knowledge!
Hey man, you should try a 1983 Fender concert Rivera.. they sound like a million bucks. Really underrated amp
Please Richie, give us moaaar! :)
Maciej Forreiter it’s Coming 👊🏼👊🏼
Deadly tones! Keep doing you brother! 🤟🏻 do you think you’d ever swap the grill cloth on the vibroverb like you did to the super reverb? I love the look and it makes the amp so much more personal in my opinion.
Tyler Malo ha ha weirdly I’ve been searching again !! I to love the personality it adds !! I certainly wouldn’t take the current cloth away I’d just add to it with some fresh “ out there “ cloth !! Thanks so much for watching ❤️
Great video my friend!!!
Thank you Buddy, i hope the new year treats you well!!! i look forward to more of your Clips!! Loved the Hendrix Cover :]
@@FretJunkies you too my friend!!
When you say "European import" does that mean they did anything different to the amps sent to Europe rather than the ones sold here in USA? OK is this a real actual 1964 or the one with the re-issue with the SRV mods in it? Hey if I cant afford a real Vibroverb, what do you think of Vibrolux or Vibrosonic amps? Can you do a video of those possibly? Supers are still fairly cheap here, I dont really like them nearly as much as Vibroverb. .
Hi, which one is better for low volume bedroom playing or attenuator use. Thank you..
Question I want to buy either a reissue or new and what would you use for overdriven sound. Love your channel you have a love for music and tone like I have. It’s refreshing
Hey, thanks for the video! I'm wondering, what speakers do you have in the Super? I have a '64 with Jensen C10R re-issues and I cannot get any brightness without it being harsh and brittle. Your Super sounds absolutely fantastic, I love that midrange. Keep on rockin'!
Could be the speakers. Also maybe his pickups are also a little brighter than yours?
Witch amp has more gain?
The super !
I'm wondering to make a deal for a vibroverb amp reissue... his it worth it ?
I don't find Many info about it.. what do you people think?
Great video! Best for 2019 to quit the daytime job! Dude! Once you have a good SR, you don't seel dat thing! lol, From my lap top, I say, SR! it sounds clearer, however, didn't SRV "mixed the two"? Cheers!
Pagnol your right !!! She’s gonna stay with me from now on!!! It was a moment of madness that has passed 😊😊
I believe he did!!! Future upload???
Thanks for the feedback 👊🏼🦍👊🏼
Great video Richie. What tubes do you like in your fender amps, Mullard or Tung Sol? If you had to change them.
hey there!! if im honest i don't really have a preference from those two!! Though that being said i have a very special set of Mullards in the Super reverb that have took the tone into the Heavens!!!
@@FretJunkies thanks I have a video up where I have mullards in my 68 bassman right channel is modded to a blackface and them Mullards are really crispy and bold
How did you get that blanket as a grill cloth?
Which strat do you have?
Philip Harrauer that’s my old girl ⚡️⚡️
Hey Im thinking about a Super Reverb or a Twin Reverb Custom 15 i have a 1965 Deluxe Reverb Ri i love but i need a second amp....what do you think? will the twin reverb with very similar circuitry and a 15 speaker come close the the 3D sound of the 64' Vibroverb ? The vibrosonic also is 15 inch tube amp from around that time im lookin at a 1974...
Where did you get the grill cloth on the Super? It looks awesome!
Bryan Hunt hey buddy, searched out some cloth I liked and installed myself !! Super simple process but makes it really personal 😊😊
I was testing my 64 Vibroverb with 15" JBL and decided to crank it up to about 8 with earplugs firmly in place and in garage (next room) I hear a loud POP!! Its a mason jar that blew up on hitting a lower note. I think open D string not sure. It was tightly capped with a spider inside who i never found.....I had a 66 Super it screamed and I regret selling it. I think had CTS speakers?
If it isnt its close
Prefer the super with that high end chime.
Richie, I resently pickedup a 67 Super Reverb myself and I really need an attenuator, what model Hotplate do I get?
Stephen Prater Hey Buddy , thanks for stopping by 😊
Ideally you want the 2 ohm gold THD , quite difficult to source !! If not try and source a 2.7 ohm green version !! That will also work , I’ve used both and not felt / heard any difference ??
That being said I favoured the gold on looks alone 🙃🙃
Fret Junkies Thanks mate!
You say that the circuit is "very very similar" and that the guts are "identical" but the Super is modded by Tommy...? what does the 850 euro get you
Brandon Moe yeah I was wondering if I’d get pulled on that ha!!
When it comes back from Tommy , it’s more stout, a lot stiffer and a solid state rectifier is put in which tightens up the low end!! You really get the most out of it when you pump the volume up though to be fair!!!
As for the exact details , well !!’ That’s the magic my friend 👊🏼👊🏼. All his work and components are covered and you are sworn to secrecy !!! Thanks for watching 🦍
Brandon my thoughts exactly!
@@FretJunkies i was looking into the inside views ya mentioned ;) That said I am addicted to the first Chris Chown clip on tommy's website... i listen to it 3+ times a day. Do you know if that is a song/what song it is? www.custombycougar.com Can you get the neck/mid position to sound like that with this amp? I also see that super on Reverb, still selling? Cheers
@@Brandon-youtube thanks for the Nod!! Ive yet to hear those clips!!! To be honest to my ear it sounds like he has something else going on in the chain?? i can't quite put my finger on it but id guess a fuzz, [ even at times sounds like a vibratone on slow setting ] dialled back a bit!! Also the pickups sound legit??? Ive actually been meaning to take it off reverb
The closest ive got to that is a hotplate with the super running at Volume ten!!! Thats where the magic is when its pumped !!
Im gonna explore that player!! Not heard of him before !!
Cheers, Richie.
@@FretJunkies No problem man love your vids. That first clip of the Enchilada mod is probably the best tone I have ever heard. Ive been trying to find stuff on Chris Chown and seemed like he was pretty popular in the early 2000s in Canada. The gain seems to fold over itself there with the perfect amount of compression yet the notes are still crystal clear. I would guess its cranked to the sky too so I probably should stop oogling over tone thats at volumes I will never be able to play at lol!
Working to re-acquire a '65 Super I got cheap from the original owner who needed the cash. How much is cheap? Ok. $225.00. Yeah it was 1979. Had that amp for 15 years. Lots of gigs. When a local amp builder offered me an even up trade for a Marshall '59 Plexi Super lead 100watt that was switchable to 50W & 25 W. (Very famous amp builder.) I pulled the trigger. Fender Supers 'used' were about $800. The Plexi's were all in the $1200-1500 range.. Now I'm looking to re-invent that atmosphere. Got a REAL BLACKFACE Super and thinking about a Plexi.??? Contact me!!
...sounds more "digital" the vibroverb, more "flat, less dinamyc, less natural to my ears. that particular ones of course. amps are like guitars, none sounds the same even same year and month. cheers mate.
Pedro Dias Costa I’m wondering if that’s something to do with my Mic placement ?? In the room the vibro is a lot more authentic?? I realised afterwards that in the vibro I had set the mic up backwards 🥴🥴 So this comparison I guess isn’t a 100 percent accurate !! But I hear you on the point that they are different beasts !! Thanks for watching , I sincerely appreciate it ❤️
@@FretJunkies the best way just for comparisons, is to place a mic or mobile phone in the same place on the room and the amps at the same level....and distance from the mic....my 2 cents
Thanks for your cool video, I have the 64 custom shop reissue Vibroverb. Ceaser Diaz Mod, only 500 made. same attenuator. Nice playing too.
Both amps sound great your playing also fits them very well, you also explained the difference between the sound of the amps very well.
DUDE, is that god playing in the background you ?
S00ler ha ha !! Sure is 😊
Chase that happiness, Richie! You deserve it mate. ✌🏽
The Authentic SRV tone
Wath song five second Please
Original 1960 strat?
M Marshall sure is !! Early 62 😊
Fret Junkies 👍Beautiful, and what a tone in your hands 😎 nice work man!