I have a 1972 Band Master Reverb that I Vibrocloned, Blackfaced, beefier OT etc. Put in a combo cab with an Altec 418B. Very happy with it. I love these amps big time. Thank you for the comparison and knowledge you guys bring. Greatly appreciated!! Excellent descriptions as well!! Cheers!!
Welcome back guys and what a great video! I really enjoyed Aynsley Lister running the amps through their paces. The comparison of how the P90 responded compared to the stat pickups was also fun to hear!
I have a thing for the brown panel amps. I have just got an Emprize Amps "Monarch" , based on a brown princeton with bias trem and switchable negative feedback 👌👌👌
Now I'm curious about that '63 Vibroverb versus some of the other brown panel amps...I have a '61 Super that's great but it's fairly different from any black panel amps I've owned. Sounds like it was a serious design change from brown to black panel eras. Aynsley is always impressive, and love those big headstock Fenders he favors.
Well good luck.. The vintage 63’ Vibroverb’s are not only ridiculously hard to find, But are will run you SERIOUS cash!You know, I’m a big fan of the 70’s large headstock Stratocaster’s as well! It’s funny most people hate them, I know guys who will go as far as not buying one regardless of how fantastic it plays/sounds etc.. And yeah, Ansley Lister always sounds incredible!
My brown Vibroverb is still my desert island amp. Best cleans ever. Buy my '62 Blonde Bassman is also killer, elegant and powerful. The brown fenders are incredible!
yes but there was a problem with the brownface vibroverb thats why prodction ws halted then Fender brought the Blackface model brown one had 10 in oxfords blkface either 12in or a 15 in
Thanks for the continued high-quality content, so much enjoy consuming and soaking in the vast body of guitar history and technical knowledge that's bought to this channel. And a BIG thanks for introducing Mr. Lister to me. Don't know how he slip under my RADAR for so long, but really cool to find a guitarist/musician that strikes a Major-CHORD with my musical tastes. Heading to AMAZON to fetch a few of his albums. PEACE🙏
Very good video. their summaries are excellent. I wouldn't trade my brown for anything, but having listened to Stevie many times back in my Austin days, I'm so aware of the awesomeness of the black 15. Possibly the two best guitar amps ever made. -- Gator
My main gigging amp through the 80's and 90's is a 64 Pro that was royally butchered aka "boogied" before I got it, and I have plans but no budget to return it to the original aa763 circuit, all by way of saying the amp's sound is all about the single 15. I used to think it was a black frame jensen, but it's just the stock cts ceramic, it just has something
Oh yeah, absolutely! The Black/Browface open back cabinet single 15” combo’s have a very distinctive sound. I guess I can understand the mindset of someone back in the early 70’s wanting to “Hot-Rod” an amplifier that today is coveted as a prized historical relic. They really didn’t know what they had, it’s like a guy swapping the speaker & modding the bejesus out of a Blues Junior. It’s still a shame, Although it really isn’t that difficult or expensive at all to have a 60’s amp circuit restored to back to original specs. If you brought your Pro to a tech I think you’d be very pleasantly surprised!!
great amps ... and standout playing! I had a brown-face 62 Bandmaster head paired with a single showman D130F cabinet. why oh why did I ever sell them...
The JBL in the '64 is why it sounds huge and they are bright and highly efficient. Those Oxford speakers in the '63 really are not efficient and are very mid heavy. You run them through the same driver and that brown will shine through. That '64 with a Jensen p15 would be glorious.
Ed’s brown panel amp for me … The black panel ‘64 Vibroverb sounds similar to my blackface Pro Reverb - and although it has great tone, there’s something ‘gutsy’ about that brown Vibroverb.
brown panel amps are a bit nasal. Love the black panel tone, and glad you are keeping the D130F it's a great speaker but not a good one to play when you are having a bad day. It will expose every last detail of your playing.
Nice playing. The brown Vibroverb was made in April and May, 63. Date codes on the tube charts of MD and ME respectively. The MD code and production run#1 was in pencil. For May, ME was stamped in along with the #2. I have never seen any other codes or run info. If anyone has one that varies from this please respond.
I have a '64 blonde 6g6B, and while I yearn for the Vibroverb, I doubt I'll ever have the money for one given their exorbitant aftermarket prices. This just makes me want to fire up the bassman.
They’re incorrect about the vibrato on the brownface. The 1960-1963 Fender vibrato circuits use three 12ax7s to create a harmonic pitch-based vibrato, not the volume based tremolo that began in 1964 with the blackface circuits.
Tallinn about amps, but using them as stools and hiding them by sitting on them. In my eyes that's a bad concept. And, it makes you look poor. You could use a pair of chairs. The amps could be free to be displayed.
The blackface is way better. The brown is all nasally mids and ice pick in the earhole highs. Compared head to head the blackface is so much more pleasing and smooth. 6 speakers? Bet it was loud. Surprised it didn’t blow his pants legs off.
@@tonetwinstv2863cabinet sags and “warps” or bends the chassis over where the knobs are ... See them often here in the u.s., where folks are typically overweight.
So funny, my ears instantly picked up when the Goldtop was being used. Gibson guitar into a Fender amp, hard to beat.😊
Hugely informative as ever. Brown for me, but both are glorious.
I have a 1972 Band Master Reverb that I Vibrocloned, Blackfaced, beefier OT etc. Put in a combo cab with an Altec 418B. Very happy with it. I love these amps big time. Thank you for the comparison and knowledge you guys bring. Greatly appreciated!! Excellent descriptions as well!! Cheers!!
Welcome back guys and what a great video! I really enjoyed Aynsley Lister running the amps through their paces. The comparison of how the P90 responded compared to the stat pickups was also fun to hear!
I have a thing for the brown panel amps.
I have just got an Emprize Amps "Monarch" , based on a brown princeton with bias trem and switchable negative feedback 👌👌👌
Delighted you’re back, fellas, we’ve missed you! And not a bad way to re-enter the fray, either ...
That wooden wall behind you, is gorgeous!
What a fantastic video have a good long weekend also stay safe
Now I'm curious about that '63 Vibroverb versus some of the other brown panel amps...I have a '61 Super that's great but it's fairly different from any black panel amps I've owned. Sounds like it was a serious design change from brown to black panel eras. Aynsley is always impressive, and love those big headstock Fenders he favors.
Well good luck.. The vintage 63’ Vibroverb’s are not only ridiculously hard to find, But are will run you SERIOUS cash!You know, I’m a big fan of the 70’s large headstock Stratocaster’s as well! It’s funny most people hate them, I know guys who will go as far as not buying one regardless of how fantastic it plays/sounds etc.. And yeah, Ansley Lister always sounds incredible!
My brown Vibroverb is still my desert island amp. Best cleans ever. Buy my '62 Blonde Bassman is also killer, elegant and powerful. The brown fenders are incredible!
'64 Blonde Bassman here. Do you think the old reverb unit with the bassman would compare at all to the Vibroverb?
im pretty sure the brown 63 reverb unit would be similar yeah @@Rhythmicons
Thanks. I might have purchased one already if it weren't for the fact that my Bassman still has the two-prong power cable.@@frankieconcepcion7860
Quality video, a brown panel fender is on my bucket list of gear.
yes but there was a problem with the brownface vibroverb thats why prodction ws halted then Fender brought the Blackface model brown one had 10 in oxfords blkface either 12in or a 15 in
@@edwardkujawa what was the problem?
Thanks for the continued high-quality content, so much enjoy consuming and soaking in the vast body of guitar history and technical knowledge that's bought to this channel. And a BIG thanks for introducing Mr. Lister to me. Don't know how he slip under my RADAR for so long, but really cool to find a guitarist/musician that strikes a Major-CHORD with my musical tastes. Heading to AMAZON to fetch a few of his albums. PEACE🙏
Always great to hear Ansley 💜🎸🤘
I like them both but if forced to choose it would be the black one.
Very good video. their summaries are excellent. I wouldn't trade my brown for anything, but having listened to Stevie many times back in my Austin days, I'm so aware of the awesomeness of the black 15. Possibly the two best guitar amps ever made. -- Gator
What a great return! really enjoyed that. 🤩 Hope we don't have to wait another year for the next one!
Thanks. And you won't we promise.
Fantastic as always! Glad to see you guys back at it.
Some of it went over my head BUT interesting and enhanced by the fingers of Mr Lister.Good job lads and of course more :)
Thanks Rob🙏
My main gigging amp through the 80's and 90's is a 64 Pro that was royally butchered aka "boogied" before I got it, and I have plans but no budget to return it to the original aa763 circuit, all by way of saying the amp's sound is all about the single 15. I used to think it was a black frame jensen, but it's just the stock cts ceramic, it just has something
Oh yeah, absolutely! The Black/Browface open back cabinet single 15” combo’s have a very distinctive sound. I guess I can understand the mindset of someone back in the early 70’s wanting to “Hot-Rod” an amplifier that today is coveted as a prized historical relic. They really didn’t know what they had, it’s like a guy swapping the speaker & modding the bejesus out of a Blues Junior. It’s still a shame, Although it really isn’t that difficult or expensive at all to have a 60’s amp circuit restored to back to original specs. If you brought your Pro to a tech I think you’d be very pleasantly surprised!!
Great video highlighting two lovely amps, but the real star here is Aynsley, what a player! He makes wonderful music as well, love his latest album.
Well fair enough. Can't really argue with that...
No dig at you guys, great video and quality content as always, look forward to more.
great amps ... and standout playing! I had a brown-face 62 Bandmaster head paired with a single showman D130F cabinet. why oh why did I ever sell them...
I liked them Both just as much the same. Nice Tone and playing is NICE TONE and NICE Playing.
The JBL in the '64 is why it sounds huge and they are bright and highly efficient. Those Oxford speakers in the '63 really are not efficient and are very mid heavy. You run them through the same driver and that brown will shine through.
That '64 with a Jensen p15 would be glorious.
Ed’s brown panel amp for me …
The black panel ‘64 Vibroverb sounds similar to my blackface Pro Reverb - and although it has great tone, there’s something ‘gutsy’ about that brown Vibroverb.
Ainsley must play a P90 guitar !!!!! 🥰
I hope Fender reissues the brown vibroverb again, but this time as a hand wired amp.
He played it flat out he said. That must be really LOUD. 🎸😀
brown panel amps are a bit nasal. Love the black panel tone, and glad you are keeping the D130F it's a great speaker but not a good one to play when you are having a bad day. It will expose every last detail of your playing.
Nice playing. The brown Vibroverb was made in April and May, 63. Date codes on the tube charts of MD and ME respectively. The MD code and production run#1 was in pencil. For May, ME was stamped in along with the #2. I have never seen any other codes or run info. If anyone has one that varies from this please respond.
Bet you're right. Many, many years ago I remember reading there were only two production runs of the brown Vibroverb.
brown for me please
So I'm going to like both but would prefer the black panel
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I have a '64 blonde 6g6B, and while I yearn for the Vibroverb, I doubt I'll ever have the money for one given their exorbitant aftermarket prices. This just makes me want to fire up the bassman.
that block he's got make's everything sound weird. is it cast or something?
Sorry, but we're not quite sure what you're referring to.
Is the 63 vs 64 a tube vs diode rectifier? 22:17
No. Both have tube rectifiers.
Realizes he needs more guitars @ 20:51...
They’re incorrect about the vibrato on the brownface. The 1960-1963 Fender vibrato circuits use three 12ax7s to create a harmonic pitch-based vibrato, not the volume based tremolo that began in 1964 with the blackface circuits.
That’s generally true, but not the case with the brown Vibroverb - it uses the same 6L6 bias vibrato as used on the later tweed amps.
Ta-Bo!
Glad you’re not wearing masks 👍🏻
JBL didn't call the D-130's "extended range" fer nuttin'...
Why don't just swap the speaks, 90% is the character and sensitivity in db gives the louder and more crunchy delivery.
Angus Young is not very high gain when you really listen to it.
Of course in 63 you could plug your Strat with synchronised TREMOLO into your VIBROverb. Fender consistent on the misnomers at least.
Funnily enough Fender did get it right at first with the Tremolux in 1955. Then followed it up with the Vibrolux soon after ;)
Tallinn about amps, but using them as stools and hiding them by sitting on them.
In my eyes that's a bad concept.
And, it makes you look poor.
You could use a pair of chairs.
The amps could be free to be displayed.
The blackface is way better. The brown is all nasally mids and ice pick in the earhole highs. Compared head to head the blackface is so much more pleasing and smooth. 6 speakers? Bet it was loud. Surprised it didn’t blow his pants legs off.
Please don't sit on the amps.
Why not?
We cannot see them. @@tonetwinstv2863
@@tonetwinstv2863cabinet sags and “warps” or bends the chassis over where the knobs are ...
See them often here in the u.s., where folks are typically overweight.
That’s Ansley Lister he’s such a brilliant player he can do whatever he wants! Those other two guys though.. big no no!! 😉
@@hughmanetti1908 @hughmanetti
Haha.. It’s a tad nitpicky but yeah, we American’s certainly are overweight! Although the Brits aren’t too far behind