Dr. J The Clockwork Orange book is a masterpiece and better than the movie. But I guess it works for 2001 Odissey, because it came after his movie and it's better imo
I've always thought Yukiko Horiguchi's work on the series is some of the best out there. Her designs have a malleable quality that lends them really well to the expressive animation K-On's known for. One thing the staff at KyoAni gets is the meaning of adaptation. Yamada said this about the changes they made to Koe no Katachi: "If you use the same phrasing in the movie, and just copy over it frame-by-frame, then you have nothing but an ordinary digest of what happens in the manga. If you do that, then it’s useless to make it into a film."
They REALLY care about making a good final product every single time they start a project. This is why they released a masterpiece like Violet Evergarden this year while other big names in the industry were releasing train wreckers cough cough DARLIFRA cough cough.
Otoo Andoh makes sense when it's simultaneously one of the biggest and most influential anime ever made, yet so many people write it off without actually watching it for what it is
+Matt S must've been the late bloomers. People who have been in the fandom before 2010s wouldn't write off K-On! easily unless they're never comfortable enough with the SoL genre. Even those disturbed by SoL should at least give 1 episode a look.
Have you considered joining the Axis-Church? We are not a cult, have many great options and free offers, are not a cult, have the best hot springs in the country and we, most importantly, are NOT A CULT.
This is why I love KyoAni. The attention to detail they put into their works, the art, everything looks like they're made by the people who really love what they're doing. That's a really heartwarming feeling you rarely get from other animation studios.
i love everything about K-on, the light fan service, the silly outfits, the drama, the music, the girls, its all great and funny and makes the show what it is,
Yeah! There's another detail of seeing charaters before they are introduced. You see Ritsu and Mio outside a (i think) bakery when Yuii is running to school. You also see Mugi at a train station where Yuii is also running by.
Damn, I knew the manga was less dense, but I didn't realize just how much love they put into the adaptation. Yamada and her team really are amazing. Tamako Market was also great, and Koe no Katachi looks fantastic too, but I hope she gets the chance to direct another TV adaptation again soon.
13:32 - if you listen closely, you can hear a little bit of emotion in Digi's voice even as he speaks about the emotional ending. Honestly, I don't blame him. K-On makes me cry too.
Video gushing about K-On is filled with K-On fans. That's not a surprise. It's gotten better over the years, but for a time people considered K-On the worst kind of anime. Most of the criticisms just boiled down to the it has no plot argument iirc.
Well, there wouldn't particularly be any reason to assume that the video would be "gushing" about K-On without clicking on it or knowing that it's Digi's favorite anime. You would know that the author of the video thinks it's a great adaptation from the complete ass manga, but that doesn't automatically mean it's gonna be swarming with fans looking for opinion validation.
It is crazy to see how an adaption of something so mediocre....can become so stellar and even a masterpiece. Great writing Digi and editing The Davoo as always.
lol exactly what I thought but I still not finish season 2 yet so I'm worried for spoiler but fuck it better watch this before it get taken down (sorry for my English)
soon all anime videos on youtube will just be full HD videos... but the actual anime content will be pixelated, cut up, black and white AND sepia, the names will be censored and the image itself will be as big as your thumb... on a 30" screen. And it will STILL be taken down if it's about K-On!
K-ON! is the kind of anime cultured, seasoned, anime veterans can enjoy. It's no surprise then, that newbies, normies, and weeaboos don't like this series as much. Edit: Coming back to this comment after 3 years, I cringed in embarrassment. I still stand by the opinion that people who know what they're talking about are likely to enjoy this series, but I disagree with my horrible choice of wording. It's a good thing I didn't reply to the replies back then... It may be worth noting this wasn't an attempt at "gatekeeping" though. I want more people to enjoy this show.
I feel that part of what makes K-ON so special is that it seems to be written from a female perspective There is a tiny bit of fanservice, but there is not really a male gaze, it never takes a step back to treat its characters like eye candy, K-ON actually respects its character's and their world and they feel incredibly human and relatable to me idk maybe thats just me
another interesting aspect here is that all the instruments they play on, drums, bass, guitar, keyboards, are real models that exist and can legitimately be purchased in the real world. i just thought i would note that as a musician myself
15:57 - THANK YOU!!! I have had this exact same mindset about adaptions for quite a white now, and ever since, have gradually lost my ability to understand why so many people want to argue that an adaption needs to stay as close to the original material as humanly possible. You're changing the medium through which the work is being presented, and there are dozens of storytelling techniques that simply can't make that kind of transition. There are things you can do in writing that someone would never be able to properly express in a visual medium, and vis versa. I can understand wanting to see your favorite book's world and characters come to life on the big screen, but I have almost completely lost sense for why you would just want the *exact same product* in a different format rather than as something fresh and exciting that still embodies the same things that you loved about the original.
I mean, if you want to understand the opposite view, I can explain why I like adaptations to be faithful. In the case of most anime adaptations I've seen, for instance, the opposite of K-On! happens. They adapt some/lots of it faithfully and then they make up their own fanfiction for the rest of it(Fullmetal Alchemist, Welcome to the NHK), they skip over large parts of the shows they adapt(Kids on the Slope, Genshiken, Berserk) or they add tons of filler(One Piece, Naruto). There's also no guarantee that the animation is any good, so manga like Fairy Tail have amazing art while the anime looks quite bad in comparison(That's also the case for say, One Piece). K-On! is a rare case because it's a dull, shallow manga with relatively little material and detail that an amazing technical studio full of great animators filled out into a whole show. It's only gonna work when the animators and writers involved are even more competent than the original author, and dedicated to improving it. It's not _impossible_(Nomu VS All Might, the best scene in all of My Hero Academia, was almost entirely the anime studio being great), but it's not normal. I watch a lot more anime than I read manga because it's something you can do with friends, but there are very few shows I also read the manga of and liked the anime _better_ than the manga afterwards.
A proper Berserk adaptation is possible. We have the technology. The problem is that a sub par studio currently has the rights and straight up refuses to put actual effort into it.
@@TasX Oh please Shinkai in general is dog shit in shot composition and writing. The facing is awful in all of his movies. After the movie end I am just confused where did the time go and was that fucking it?
+Yorha I mean in charge of directing the graphics, not story. Since the manga is heavily based on its art, I think you need someone good at art to carry out well
If berserk got a CGI adaption (since standard animation with the same quality AS the manga would take ages) by Studio Spotlight (they did Beastars and Land Of The Lustrous) it would be legendary as they have fantastic CGI anime
It's KyoAni magic. Even a boring Detective Light Novel Hyouka became entertaining when KyoAni decided to adapt it into anime. KyoAni is really good at making the world in their anime feel alive. And the music for their animes are always awesome.
When "Is the order a rabbit?" aired for the first time, I watched the first episode and found myself got bored by it. A friend asked me about the stuff Friend: "I see. So you don't like Moe slice of life anime, huh" Me: "I dunno. This feels boring to me." F: "Wait, you watched K-On!, right? That's also moe slice of life anime." M: "I did. And I love K-On! so very much." F: "Then, why don't you like this?" M: *shrug* "Not sure." And this video answer my question. Personality. K-On always has a special place for me. It is the show that made me feel interested to try many kind of anime. Before K-On, I only watched popular action stuff. Somehow, I stumbled upon K-On while it's still airing and fell in love with it. Very hard. The next season I probably watched 5-10 shows at the start of the season for the sake of finding hidden gem (for me) like K-On.
Mushi-Shi is an incredible example of your adaptation philosophy. The standalone chapters were pretty great as manga, and the anime is shot-for shot the same thing. But they make it look and sound BEAUTIFUL by animating the mushi creatures, incredibly elaborate background art, plus exploring unique music scores and color palettes for every single episode. So the manga had the story already, but I truly believe the anime was a great addition because of how it expanded on the MOOD and ATMOSPHERE, which could not be portrayed on silent, black-and-white, pace-sensitive manga panels.
I literally wrote an entire essay gushing about Natsume yuujinchou, but realized that I had completely forgotten why I was writing that essay, then I forgot what video I had been watching, so here is a fragment of what I originally wrote that is relevant to the video... (I really like Natsume Yuujinchou and i think this sort of displays that fact in a very open and intense way) The manga of Natsume Yuujinchou has a very specific aesthetic. It's gentle, wispy, almost dream-like in structure, with a lot of it's narrative told through flashbacks of Natsume's childhood, memories featuring his grandmother, or dreams that deal with Natsume's fears and emotions. The anime, somehow, manages to maintain all of this storytelling through a very close and accurate adaptation. Both Brain's Base and Studio Shuka manage to create episodes that are nearly 1 for 1 from their source material without making the show seem slow paced, or like theyre clawing for more story. I really think it's one of the best adaptations of a Manga to an Anime, with the only really huge, noticeable changes being Natsume's hair and eye color (which are only seen on the manga covers or extra art anyways), and the decrease of Natsume's salt level. It's a tight adaptation, but it still maintains the same feeling that the manga presents. Also, I really love how NatsuYuu does the Monster of the Week thing really well, with each story fairly self contained, and each episode a complete narrative arc that rewards the viewer at the end by having no episodes that seem out of place, or that the show would be better without. It's a really good show please watch it there are 5 seasons out with a 6th one coming in April. The first 4 seasons were created by Brain's Base, and the 5th and 6th seasons made by Studio Shuka. The only thing that changes over the course of the seasons is animation quality. Season 2 compared to season 1 is so much prettier in animation, and season 5, after the 5 year hiatus, is absolutely gorgeous in a super subtly and gentle way, with scenes that aren't necessarily breathtaking, but very relaxing and lovely. Anyways, i love it go watch it...
It´s one of the few slice of life type of anime / manga where things actually happen and people don´t spend to much time on eating cake , loved the anime maybe i´ll give the manga a chance thanks
Davoo, Capital K --> Hyphen --> Capital O --> Lowercase n --> 1 exclamation point. That is the correct way to spell K-On! Please, its been bugging me for years.
I was one of those who right at moment K-ON! aired said: "that moe crap is garbage blahblah", only to a couple years later, fall into temptation an realize how wrong i was
This just confirms my way of thinking about K-On! I love it because it didn't wanted to stand out as "revolutionary" or "Ground-breaking" anime. It was just a niche anime adaptation with a lot of hard work and genuine effort put into it. And i will always love it and respect it for that.
I didn't know all this stuff about the manga, and it makes me appreciate one of my favorite shows even more. K-On is amazing, and these adaptations and additions really were some of the best parts of the show. I really appreciate how they made a show about a bunch of girls and made it not really fan-servicey, and I'm glad the director and writer took it that direction despite what the manga contains.
I consume light novels, manga and anime… and i have ti agree with you… just love it when they start improving the story and just like k-on it became a classic… i mean its like a trope now for those who say “but in the manga” bs… dont get me wrong there are really vad adaptations; however, theres also shows that has been adapted well…
I made a Hulu account and watched the first season of k-on because of you. And I fucking loved it. I'm going to start S2 soon, then the movies/shorts. I've already bought a figure too. Thanks for opening my eyes to such a great show, digi.
I think that us animators often try out best to achieve the energy that imitates life in our work, but some manga artists do kill it and are very good at doing these things as well. you have artists like One who are great at writing and have crude but fun drawings, it depends on the artists, their execution, and sensibilities.
Idc what anybody says nor how late I am but I just gotta say K-on was the only form of media so far that genuinely hit me in the feels when it all wrapped up.
This video perfectly sums up why Kyoto Animation is by far my favourite animation studio. They just have so much attention detail; from the eyes, to the backgrounds, to the casting. For instance: in the first episode, you can see the entire main cast in the first minute in the background. If you were to watch it for the first time, you would never notice, but it's as if they new it was so good they knew people would watch it multiple times. Not only this, but when they add things to the anime that weren't present in the manga it's almost always better. Sorry if I'm going off, I took adderall before I wrote this comment.
Jesus I didn't even know k-on had source material, I thought it was anime original It's astonishing that such a simple generic yonkoma with barely any substance at all can be turned into something bursting at the seems with character, overflowing with emotion and personality, one beautiful scene lovingly crafted after the other with a cast of unforgettable characters in an unforgettable world, KyoAni can really just touch anything and make it pure gold
Damn it. I just watched the entire series again last month... Now you're making me want to see them again. I can now see scratches on my discs from all the use.
THANK YOU!!!! K-On! is my favorite anime too! But so many people think it's only a crappy anime about "cute girls doing cute things". ...Well... it technically is... but it does it JUST right. It really touches my heart! It reminds me of all the silly and sweet situations I've experienced with my own friends throughout my life. It shows me how even the smallest and simplest moments in life are just enough to keep me enjoying it and want to make the most of it. I watched episodes once in a while when I wanted to feel at peace with difficult situations in my life. I'm so going to subscribe to you now! Also, I watched this anime before I even knew what "moe" and "cute girls doing cute things" was. XD In fact, I can say this is the first anime I've ever completely finished watching. Others weren't engaging enough I guess.
[stupid rant about how a moe show can even be considered a masterpiece, continued a by phrase insulting the youtuber's taste and how he can not be taken seriously because of liking moe, finishing with writing some bullshit about how only dark and deep shows can be considered good and oh, yes, old anime was better]
What the [expletive] did you just [expletive] say about Digi, you [pejorative epithet]? I’ll have you know that Digi has done the most for this industry, he's been involved in numerous statistical analysis of anime trends, and has been confirmed as the reason SAO is dead. He is trained in shot composition and he's the top script doctor in the entire UA-cam land. You are nothing to him but just another [pejorative] [derogatory epithet]. He could wipe you the [expletive] out with lyrical prose the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my [expletive] words. You think you can get away with saying that [feces] about Digi over the Internet? Think again, [pejorative epithet]. As we speak now, I am contacting a secret network of hackers across the USA, who coincidentally also love K-On and only disagree about who is best girl, and your IP is being back-traced right now. So you better prepare for a(n) [expletive] storm, [epithet]. A storm that wipes out the [pejorative] [size adjective] thing you call your life. You’re [expletive] dead (figuratively), kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you (figuratively) in over seven-hundred (700) ways, but that’s only with my dick beaters. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of grown men who watch children's shows in their mother's basements, and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your [pejorative] [anatomical reference to posterior] off the face of the continent, you [derogatory epithet]. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your [expletive] tongue. But you dun goofed, and now you’re going to pay the price, you [deity] condemned [epithet]. I will [excrete fecal matter[ furiously all over you and you will drown in it. *Naruto voice* Believe it!
Depends on how you go into it. If you go into expecting moe trash, you'll be pleasantly surprised. But if you go into with over expectations, it could be a turn off. My advice, it having a blank slate. Minimum expectations to be fair to the show. You'll find it so much better to just see it for what it is and the meaning and symbolism it conveys.
the way you say k-on is tripping me out dude. am i the only one that pronounces it kay own ?? also this video makes me want to re-watch k-on because i always just thought i liked it so much because it was cute and funny. but now as an adult i realize the reason why i loved it so much because when it aired i was a freshman in hs too and i related to yui and ritsu so much and seeing a strong bond between friends was something that i always wanted. i cant believe that was almost 8 years ago
In many of the K-On! episodes, the characters themselves pronounced "K-On" like Digibro is pronouncing it in this video. The romaji spelling in some episodes and the subtitles would be "keion" when the characters were talking exactly about the club (not about the creative anime title).
I'm from a family of musicians, and I do love K-On! so much. It's not really about musicians or a story about to become one. It's more Slice of Life and comedy, and friendship. I really like how Yamada Naoko and her staff crafted that boring manga into one of the most memorable series of all time. KyoAni, at its finest, I should say.
The superhero movie Kickass did a similar thing. Where the original disparaged the whole idea of someone dressing up to be a hero while the movie glorifies it and plays it as if it's a praiseworthy thing. Ultimately the movie was more well received I believe.
Great vid, Digi. I always used K-On(anime) as an example of an adaptation that exceeds the original work, because it doesnt try to go for the same thing as the original, it uses the concept but goes more far than it. for me this is what an anime adaptation should be about, not the spit image of the original content, but an individual piece of work.
Having never seen K-On and really only know about from you talking about it briefly in other videos, thanks for making this one. I don't know when I'll get around to watching it, or really if, but you got me interested and I liked your video.
While I fell off K-On! at the start of season 2 iirc (the intro of Azusa?), I had an absolute blast digesting this video! Your dissection of why its adaptation is so well done was, simply put, excellent, in-depth, and enthralling. These are the kind of videos I live for as an animation junkie.
At first I was a bit upset because it doesn't focus on the music aspect too much, and yet somehow I couldn't stop watching. It's cute, sure, but there's just so much detail to enjoy in things like gestures, expressions, emotions... And the jokes are all pleasant. What little plot k-on has is replaced with so much emotion, characterization, brilliant interactions, and of course kyoto animation's quality presentation. To this day I'm still blown away by the little rushed walk Ritsu did in season 2's opening sequence. I mean, it's just a walk. A repeated small number of still drawings. And yet I could immediately think, "of course that's how Ritsu would walk!"
Diabeetus, the PUNK BITCH MOTHER FUCKER thing was more directed at the fact that the individual in question was mocking him behind his back, so far as I can tell.
I haven't watched either past what I've seen in different people's reviews and I don't care about Kyoto Animation, and yet somehow, I just know that that video would fail to prove its point. At best, it's an Armond White situation: Ornery contrarianism couched in verbosity.
Honestly you could say that SAO has faster pacing than K-On. You could also argue that it has better worldbuidling and a more fulfilling romance. You would have to ignore everything that's clearly bad about SAO, but there are some ways you could construct an argument.
There aren't many anime I can name that have better character designs than the manga but K-On definitely is the biggest example. The cast just pops out and look so damn adorable, whereas the manga... all of the girls look kind of plain in comparison. They aren't ugly, just lacking in what needs to be considered alluring to viewers' eyes.
I finally gave K-On! another try after years of seeing the first 4 episodes and not liking them. I still thought it was super fucking boring and dropped it at the exact same spot. Video was cool, though, I can see how the anime is definitely better than the manga.
heard the same deal for Fafner season 1 back in the day, "Past episode 16 yo!" that's... like past the halfway point of a &^%$'n 24/26 episode series! LOL you need a better argument bro.
K on is about moe characters it is a masterpiece because all "moe" were on point and there were nth like KON before itself I agree it can be bored, but to ppl who appreciate these characters, it's really interesting
Some people would probably tell you to skip most of K-on. It really annoys me when people recommend skipping "filler", and "filler" is defined as anything that's different from the manga. An anime should be judged on its own merits, not how similar it is to the manga.
I really don't like K-On, but I can totally understand why people like it. I can appreciate it as a work of art. I think a lot of people just believe their subjective lack of enjoyment of it, means that it's over-rated and not good.
Yes, exactly. Most of the people who attack it are in one of two camps: 1. Never watched it but "hurr durr moe trash" and 2. "I didn't like it which means it's objectively trash". I have no problem with people who can recognise that it is a well made, competently put together and damn finely executed show, but just didn't like it because lsice of life isn't their thing, or whatever. But no-one can tell me that K-On is a "bad anime". There's quite a difference between "I didn't like it" and "it's bad".
I half expected you to say "I edited the first episode of K-On to be shot for shot the original Wickerman movie"
I would watch the fuck out of that.
Would be better if it were edited to fit the Wickerman remake.
"NOT THE BEES, MUGI-CHAN!! NOT THE BEEEEES!!"
Not the eyebrows, NOT THE EYEBROWS!
That would be some God-tier editing skill.
Now I really want "K-On! but it's edited to be a shot by shot remake of The Wicker Man".
"choose a work that isn't a masterpiece so you can improve on it." - Stanley Kubrick
Great quote, considering I find almost all of Kubrick's work to be superior to what he adapted it from.
Dr. J The Clockwork Orange book is a masterpiece and better than the movie. But I guess it works for 2001 Odissey, because it came after his movie and it's better imo
Damn he really had to to stephen king dirty like that didn't he
Well I guess that’s why Stephen King is mad
@@commanderleo Heresy he spoke heresy
If Trixie spent the rest of her UA-cam career doing nothing but defenses and analyses of K-On! I wouldn't be unhappy
Damn Right!
@@hmssirius9343 I bet you only watch shounen battle anime.
exactly
Kin Wa Li prob right
Digi nee bro
Bruh the arguments in this video about 2D girls doing cute and stupid stuff are better than what I write in college
well i go to college for animation. so this shit is useful af.
Write about this for your cultural philosophy doctoral thesis.
I've always thought Yukiko Horiguchi's work on the series is some of the best out there. Her designs have a malleable quality that lends them really well to the expressive animation K-On's known for. One thing the staff at KyoAni gets is the meaning of adaptation. Yamada said this about the changes they made to Koe no Katachi: "If you use the same phrasing in the movie, and just copy over it frame-by-frame, then you have nothing but an ordinary digest of what happens in the manga. If you do that, then it’s useless to make it into a film."
6:53 "Mugi is super gay and rich." Hahaha
TheButteredPotato lol that's pretty much how you can describe Mugi. She's a bit odd(not exactly sure if she's really gay) and rich.
Honestly I wish she was gayer in the anime.
@@Shtoops me too
@@Shtoops no
Glad I wasn't the only one who thought she might be gay. I was worried I was just looking to much into it.
Damn, the people working at kyoto animation at the time REALLY cared about animating cute girls didn't they?
Well, why wouldn't they want to make a quality product?
They REALLY care about making a good final product every single time they start a project. This is why they released a masterpiece like Violet Evergarden this year while other big names in the industry were releasing train wreckers cough cough DARLIFRA cough cough.
Still do today
I clicked so fuckin quick. i could listen to you talk about k-on for hours.
Does he talk about K-on much?
New subscriber here.
unfortunately not, other than his loving thesis
Lmao xD I laughed pretty hard when found out that the video is actually called "K-On! - A Loving Thesis"
Same. I can listen to anyone talk about this anime for hours. It's so good.
I swear Digi is like one of those uber-religious folk that is constantly trying to convince people to join the religion of K-On!
Otoo Andoh very accurate
Otoo Andoh makes sense when it's simultaneously one of the biggest and most influential anime ever made, yet so many people write it off without actually watching it for what it is
+Matt S must've been the late bloomers. People who have been in the fandom before 2010s wouldn't write off K-On! easily unless they're never comfortable enough with the SoL genre. Even those disturbed by SoL should at least give 1 episode a look.
Hes like that one girl from the Ghost stories dub but with K-On! instead of Jesus.
Have you considered joining the Axis-Church?
We are not a cult, have many great options and free offers, are not a cult, have the best hot springs in the country and we, most importantly, are NOT A CULT.
You're doing god's work
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Yamada is a genius
This is why I love KyoAni. The attention to detail they put into their works, the art, everything looks like they're made by the people who really love what they're doing. That's a really heartwarming feeling you rarely get from other animation studios.
i love everything about K-on, the light fan service, the silly outfits, the drama, the music, the girls, its all great and funny and makes the show what it is,
CmoneyRS there isn’t really fan service I guess there was a bust shot
9:30 The difference of cherry blossoms on the trees. What incredible attention to detail! Kyoani doesn't mess around!
Yeah!
There's another detail of seeing charaters before they are introduced.
You see Ritsu and Mio outside a (i think) bakery when Yuii is running to school.
You also see Mugi at a train station where Yuii is also running by.
Kyoto animation show their supierority at every step of the way
Damn, I knew the manga was less dense, but I didn't realize just how much love they put into the adaptation. Yamada and her team really are amazing. Tamako Market was also great, and Koe no Katachi looks fantastic too, but I hope she gets the chance to direct another TV adaptation again soon.
Man, I kind of wish Digi was more subliminal or sneaky with his K-ON promoting. Then I could call him the K-ON artist.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
i want to die
13:32 - if you listen closely, you can hear a little bit of emotion in Digi's voice even as he speaks about the emotional ending. Honestly, I don't blame him. K-On makes me cry too.
8:41 Hey, that's Mio taking Ritsu's picture in the background! I never saw or realized that before, kinda neat how they threw that in there.
Theres also mugi in another background shot
I hope the copyright shit got sorted!
Bacon Catbug Well, I hope so. Companies don't back down until they actually sue though.
i forgot how good this anime is because i was brainwashed with the popular opinion that it's just moe trash
talkshh not really a popular opinion depending where you look
Matt S it's what I hear most of the time
Well on this video it seems like the majority of people like it
Video gushing about K-On is filled with K-On fans. That's not a surprise. It's gotten better over the years, but for a time people considered K-On the worst kind of anime. Most of the criticisms just boiled down to the it has no plot argument iirc.
Well, there wouldn't particularly be any reason to assume that the video would be "gushing" about K-On without clicking on it or knowing that it's Digi's favorite anime. You would know that the author of the video thinks it's a great adaptation from the complete ass manga, but that doesn't automatically mean it's gonna be swarming with fans looking for opinion validation.
It is crazy to see how an adaption of something so mediocre....can become so stellar and even a masterpiece. Great writing Digi and editing The Davoo as always.
the original artist really stuck gold with that adaptation since they would get a cut.
I don't think Kakifly thought at any point that KyoAni would create something entirely better with the adaptation.
well the shitier the manga is the better anime will be, i suppose.
Sees video posted. Fuck! Better watch now before it gets taken down. I gotta be quicker than that.
lol exactly what I thought but I still not finish season 2 yet so I'm worried for spoiler
but fuck it better watch this before it get taken down (sorry for my English)
soon all anime videos on youtube will just be full HD videos... but the actual anime content will be pixelated, cut up, black and white AND sepia, the names will be censored and the image itself will be as big as your thumb... on a 30" screen.
And it will STILL be taken down if it's about K-On!
K-ON! is the kind of anime cultured, seasoned, anime veterans can enjoy. It's no surprise then, that newbies, normies, and weeaboos don't like this series as much.
Edit: Coming back to this comment after 3 years, I cringed in embarrassment. I still stand by the opinion that people who know what they're talking about are likely to enjoy this series, but I disagree with my horrible choice of wording. It's a good thing I didn't reply to the replies back then... It may be worth noting this wasn't an attempt at "gatekeeping" though. I want more people to enjoy this show.
This is the strangest and most detached from reality gatekeeping I've ever seen
I'm no anime veteran, but even I like K-On!.
Bruh stop gatekeeping.
Us og K-On fans still love K-On, im sure there are still people in recent times getting into K-On
K-on helped me so much during my depression moments
I feel that part of what makes K-ON so special is that it seems to be written from a female perspective
There is a tiny bit of fanservice, but there is not really a male gaze, it never takes a step back to treat its characters like eye candy, K-ON actually respects its character's and their world and they feel incredibly human and relatable to me
idk maybe thats just me
another interesting aspect here is that all the instruments they play on, drums, bass, guitar, keyboards, are real models that exist and can legitimately be purchased in the real world. i just thought i would note that as a musician myself
That's really cool!
Thank you man! K-On! definitely deserves this much recognition, especially from a lad like yourself.
"Mugi is super gay and rich" - you, sir, have just earned yourself a new subscriber.
Fine Digi, I'll watch it. I think you've finally sold me on watching this.
15:57 - THANK YOU!!! I have had this exact same mindset about adaptions for quite a white now, and ever since, have gradually lost my ability to understand why so many people want to argue that an adaption needs to stay as close to the original material as humanly possible.
You're changing the medium through which the work is being presented, and there are dozens of storytelling techniques that simply can't make that kind of transition. There are things you can do in writing that someone would never be able to properly express in a visual medium, and vis versa.
I can understand wanting to see your favorite book's world and characters come to life on the big screen, but I have almost completely lost sense for why you would just want the *exact same product* in a different format rather than as something fresh and exciting that still embodies the same things that you loved about the original.
I mean, if you want to understand the opposite view, I can explain why I like adaptations to be faithful. In the case of most anime adaptations I've seen, for instance, the opposite of K-On! happens. They adapt some/lots of it faithfully and then they make up their own fanfiction for the rest of it(Fullmetal Alchemist, Welcome to the NHK), they skip over large parts of the shows they adapt(Kids on the Slope, Genshiken, Berserk) or they add tons of filler(One Piece, Naruto). There's also no guarantee that the animation is any good, so manga like Fairy Tail have amazing art while the anime looks quite bad in comparison(That's also the case for say, One Piece). K-On! is a rare case because it's a dull, shallow manga with relatively little material and detail that an amazing technical studio full of great animators filled out into a whole show. It's only gonna work when the animators and writers involved are even more competent than the original author, and dedicated to improving it. It's not _impossible_(Nomu VS All Might, the best scene in all of My Hero Academia, was almost entirely the anime studio being great), but it's not normal. I watch a lot more anime than I read manga because it's something you can do with friends, but there are very few shows I also read the manga of and liked the anime _better_ than the manga afterwards.
A proper Berserk adaptation is possible. We have the technology. The problem is that a sub par studio currently has the rights and straight up refuses to put actual effort into it.
It's shame that CGI animation could work for Anime if they did it like with American TV shows. Hell, Transformers Prime was CGi animated in Japan.
Ugh, if we can get Shinkai to make an anime adaptation, it would be the best. That’s gonna be tough tho
@@TasX Oh please Shinkai in general is dog shit in shot composition and writing. The facing is awful in all of his movies. After the movie end I am just confused where did the time go and was that fucking it?
+Yorha I mean in charge of directing the graphics, not story. Since the manga is heavily based on its art, I think you need someone good at art to carry out well
If berserk got a CGI adaption (since standard animation with the same quality AS the manga would take ages) by Studio Spotlight (they did Beastars and Land Of The Lustrous) it would be legendary as they have fantastic CGI anime
"Whereas the anime is considered, by anyone that knows what they're talking about, a masterpiece" - Digi, 2017
Sounds accurate.
That statement is correct.
This is one of my favorite videos you've done and does a great job showing why K-On! (the anime) is so great.
It's KyoAni magic. Even a boring Detective Light Novel Hyouka became entertaining when KyoAni decided to adapt it into anime. KyoAni is really good at making the world in their anime feel alive. And the music for their animes are always awesome.
When "Is the order a rabbit?" aired for the first time, I watched the first episode and found myself got bored by it. A friend asked me about the stuff
Friend: "I see. So you don't like Moe slice of life anime, huh"
Me: "I dunno. This feels boring to me."
F: "Wait, you watched K-On!, right? That's also moe slice of life anime."
M: "I did. And I love K-On! so very much."
F: "Then, why don't you like this?"
M: *shrug* "Not sure."
And this video answer my question. Personality.
K-On always has a special place for me. It is the show that made me feel interested to try many kind of anime. Before K-On, I only watched popular action stuff. Somehow, I stumbled upon K-On while it's still airing and fell in love with it. Very hard. The next season I probably watched 5-10 shows at the start of the season for the sake of finding hidden gem (for me) like K-On.
Mushi-Shi is an incredible example of your adaptation philosophy. The standalone chapters were pretty great as manga, and the anime is shot-for shot the same thing. But they make it look and sound BEAUTIFUL by animating the mushi creatures, incredibly elaborate background art, plus exploring unique music scores and color palettes for every single episode.
So the manga had the story already, but I truly believe the anime was a great addition because of how it expanded on the MOOD and ATMOSPHERE, which could not be portrayed on silent, black-and-white, pace-sensitive manga panels.
great video, digimon
Pokemon made a better one.
I literally wrote an entire essay gushing about Natsume yuujinchou, but realized that I had completely forgotten why I was writing that essay, then I forgot what video I had been watching, so here is a fragment of what I originally wrote that is relevant to the video... (I really like Natsume Yuujinchou and i think this sort of displays that fact in a very open and intense way)
The manga of Natsume Yuujinchou has a very specific aesthetic. It's gentle, wispy, almost dream-like in structure, with a lot of it's narrative told through flashbacks of Natsume's childhood, memories featuring his grandmother, or dreams that deal with Natsume's fears and emotions. The anime, somehow, manages to maintain all of this storytelling through a very close and accurate adaptation. Both Brain's Base and Studio Shuka manage to create episodes that are nearly 1 for 1 from their source material without making the show seem slow paced, or like theyre clawing for more story. I really think it's one of the best adaptations of a Manga to an Anime, with the only really huge, noticeable changes being Natsume's hair and eye color (which are only seen on the manga covers or extra art anyways), and the decrease of Natsume's salt level. It's a tight adaptation, but it still maintains the same feeling that the manga presents.
Also, I really love how NatsuYuu does the Monster of the Week thing really well, with each story fairly self contained, and each episode a complete narrative arc that rewards the viewer at the end by having no episodes that seem out of place, or that the show would be better without. It's a really good show please watch it there are 5 seasons out with a 6th one coming in April. The first 4 seasons were created by Brain's Base, and the 5th and 6th seasons made by Studio Shuka. The only thing that changes over the course of the seasons is animation quality. Season 2 compared to season 1 is so much prettier in animation, and season 5, after the 5 year hiatus, is absolutely gorgeous in a super subtly and gentle way, with scenes that aren't necessarily breathtaking, but very relaxing and lovely. Anyways, i love it go watch it...
It´s one of the few slice of life type of anime / manga where things actually happen and people don´t spend to much time on eating cake , loved the anime maybe i´ll give the manga a chance thanks
Davoo, Capital K --> Hyphen --> Capital O --> Lowercase n --> 1 exclamation point.
That is the correct way to spell K-On! Please, its been bugging me for years.
^
Second season technically has two exclamation points tho
CKAY_AWN?!!
KOn1!-?
So... !kN-o, right?
I was one of those who right at moment K-ON! aired said: "that moe crap is garbage blahblah", only to a couple years later, fall into temptation an realize how wrong i was
This sounds like a religious conversion
Maybe I should watch it
I think K-On started moe
I read the manga and then watched the anime when I was like 10 I'm 18 now. And I LOVE K-ON
This just confirms my way of thinking about K-On!
I love it because it didn't wanted to stand out as "revolutionary" or "Ground-breaking" anime. It was just a niche anime adaptation with a lot of hard work and genuine effort put into it. And i will always love it and respect it for that.
I miss K- On! :
I didn't know all this stuff about the manga, and it makes me appreciate one of my favorite shows even more. K-On is amazing, and these adaptations and additions really were some of the best parts of the show. I really appreciate how they made a show about a bunch of girls and made it not really fan-servicey, and I'm glad the director and writer took it that direction despite what the manga contains.
I consume light novels, manga and anime… and i have ti agree with you… just love it when they start improving the story and just like k-on it became a classic… i mean its like a trope now for those who say “but in the manga” bs… dont get me wrong there are really vad adaptations; however, theres also shows that has been adapted well…
I made a Hulu account and watched the first season of k-on because of you. And I fucking loved it. I'm going to start S2 soon, then the movies/shorts. I've already bought a figure too. Thanks for opening my eyes to such a great show, digi.
On 8:42 u can see mio taking picture of ritsu in the background
I think that us animators often try out best to achieve the energy that imitates life in our work, but some manga artists do kill it and are very good at doing these things as well. you have artists like One who are great at writing and have crude but fun drawings, it depends on the artists, their execution, and sensibilities.
Gotta say there are hundred people working on the anime, when the manga is like one guy. So they did have a lot of potential to improve the original
Idc what anybody says nor how late I am but I just gotta say K-on was the only form of media so far that genuinely hit me in the feels when it all wrapped up.
I miss K-On... I should rewatch it sometime soon...
glad this made it on! thanks for the vid Digi! you're the reason I watched K-on and I love it
"Super Gay and rich"
That would sound AWESOME on a business card!
The "odd yellow circles" are AOE markers for kids not to stand in so a door swinging open doesn't take you out.
season 3 when
This video perfectly sums up why Kyoto Animation is by far my favourite animation studio. They just have so much attention detail; from the eyes, to the backgrounds, to the casting. For instance: in the first episode, you can see the entire main cast in the first minute in the background. If you were to watch it for the first time, you would never notice, but it's as if they new it was so good they knew people would watch it multiple times. Not only this, but when they add things to the anime that weren't present in the manga it's almost always better. Sorry if I'm going off, I took adderall before I wrote this comment.
already watched this, just came by to drop a like!
congradulations digi, after years of everyone trying to get me to do so, you finally convinced me to watch K-on
Mugi best girl hands down...
Nick Baker no
ew275x you my friend are a genius
ew275x "She's the objectively superior girl to marry." Did you forget that Mio exists?
mugi is objectively the sweetest girl of the bunch
They're all great, and I can see why you'd like Mugi the best but Mio and Azu-nyan are my favorites c:
Jesus I didn't even know k-on had source material, I thought it was anime original
It's astonishing that such a simple generic yonkoma with barely any substance at all can be turned into something bursting at the seems with character, overflowing with emotion and personality, one beautiful scene lovingly crafted after the other with a cast of unforgettable characters in an unforgettable world, KyoAni can really just touch anything and make it pure gold
Basically it's amazing.
Damn it. I just watched the entire series again last month... Now you're making me want to see them again. I can now see scratches on my discs from all the use.
I sent this to my friend who told me K-ON was boring after watching literally 2 minutes of it
***** yeah he really has no taste. He deadass told me "What kind of black person watches an anime that doesn't have action in it?"
Honestly, if anything can bore you in 2 minutes you're an attention defecit pleb.
Lol 2 minutes
THANK YOU!!!! K-On! is my favorite anime too! But so many people think it's only a crappy anime about "cute girls doing cute things". ...Well... it technically is... but it does it JUST right. It really touches my heart! It reminds me of all the silly and sweet situations I've experienced with my own friends throughout my life. It shows me how even the smallest and simplest moments in life are just enough to keep me enjoying it and want to make the most of it. I watched episodes once in a while when I wanted to feel at peace with difficult situations in my life.
I'm so going to subscribe to you now!
Also, I watched this anime before I even knew what "moe" and "cute girls doing cute things" was. XD In fact, I can say this is the first anime I've ever completely finished watching. Others weren't engaging enough I guess.
well. time to rewatch k-on!
Honestly really happy to see a K-ON video in 2017. I didnt think many would be interested anymore
[stupid rant about how a moe show can even be considered a masterpiece, continued a by phrase insulting the youtuber's taste and how he can not be taken seriously because of liking moe, finishing with writing some bullshit about how only dark and deep shows can be considered good and oh, yes, old anime was better]
*generic comment defending this "masterpiece" because cute girls > intressting plot "
[generic comment further shitting on digi to get some likes by digi haters]
[troll comment]
[triggered reply Oh wait, UnusualReaper has got that covered.
What the [expletive] did you just [expletive] say about Digi, you [pejorative epithet]? I’ll have you know that Digi has done the most for this industry, he's been involved in numerous statistical analysis of anime trends, and has been confirmed as the reason SAO is dead. He is trained in shot composition and he's the top script doctor in the entire UA-cam land. You are nothing to him but just another [pejorative] [derogatory epithet]. He could wipe you the [expletive] out with lyrical prose the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my [expletive] words. You think you can get away with saying that [feces] about Digi over the Internet? Think again, [pejorative epithet]. As we speak now, I am contacting a secret network of hackers across the USA, who coincidentally also love K-On and only disagree about who is best girl, and your IP is being back-traced right now. So you better prepare for a(n) [expletive] storm, [epithet]. A storm that wipes out the [pejorative] [size adjective] thing you call your life. You’re [expletive] dead (figuratively), kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you (figuratively) in over seven-hundred (700) ways, but that’s only with my dick beaters. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of grown men who watch children's shows in their mother's basements, and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your [pejorative] [anatomical reference to posterior] off the face of the continent, you [derogatory epithet]. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your [expletive] tongue. But you dun goofed, and now you’re going to pay the price, you [deity] condemned [epithet]. I will [excrete fecal matter[ furiously all over you and you will drown in it. *Naruto voice* Believe it!
Of all your videos about K-on this is the one that made me think maybe i should watch this show.
Huh, maybe i should watch K-On
K-On is one of the most popular slice of life anime for good reason. Go for it, dude
you'd be doing yourself a disservice if you didn't!
If you're into moe and slice of life shows, you'll probably like it a lot. If not though it's gonna be the most boring shit you've ever seen
Kongou, I love Slice of Life and Moe anime, but I think K-On is alright.
Depends on how you go into it. If you go into expecting moe trash, you'll be pleasantly surprised. But if you go into with over expectations, it could be a turn off. My advice, it having a blank slate. Minimum expectations to be fair to the show. You'll find it so much better to just see it for what it is and the meaning and symbolism it conveys.
I love this show already but hey it's actually nice to know this kind of things, it makes me appreciate it a lot more, thx.
the way you say k-on is tripping me out dude. am i the only one that pronounces it kay own ?? also this video makes me want to re-watch k-on because i always just thought i liked it so much because it was cute and funny. but now as an adult i realize the reason why i loved it so much because when it aired i was a freshman in hs too and i related to yui and ritsu so much and seeing a strong bond between friends was something that i always wanted. i cant believe that was almost 8 years ago
In many of the K-On! episodes, the characters themselves pronounced "K-On" like Digibro is pronouncing it in this video. The romaji spelling in some episodes and the subtitles would be "keion" when the characters were talking exactly about the club (not about the creative anime title).
I'm from a family of musicians, and I do love K-On! so much. It's not really about musicians or a story about to become one. It's more Slice of Life and comedy, and friendship. I really like how Yamada Naoko and her staff crafted that boring manga into one of the most memorable series of all time. KyoAni, at its finest, I should say.
I disagree with one thing. That the manga sucks. The anime is far superior, but I love the manga as well. It’s funny and sweet
The superhero movie Kickass did a similar thing. Where the original disparaged the whole idea of someone dressing up to be a hero while the movie glorifies it and plays it as if it's a praiseworthy thing. Ultimately the movie was more well received I believe.
6:01 That clearly open hi-hat will forever bother me
Great vid, Digi.
I always used K-On(anime) as an example of an adaptation that exceeds the original work, because it doesnt try to go for the same thing as the original, it uses the concept but goes more far than it. for me this is what an anime adaptation should be about, not the spit image of the original content, but an individual piece of work.
K-ON! Just won Anime of the Decade on Anitrendz.
Also the main reason the manga sucks: Mugi doesn't have pickled radish eyebrows
Having never seen K-On and really only know about from you talking about it briefly in other videos, thanks for making this one. I don't know when I'll get around to watching it, or really if, but you got me interested and I liked your video.
I've fully grasped the appeal of K-On, probably because the show just isn't for me.
I'm happy you've put this on UA-cam now! I couldn't watch it on that other website because the video would glitch out.
guess it's time for a rewatch
Another one? Do you know which count I am on? Well... Me neither.
K-on is what got me more into SoL (Slice of life) and I don’t regret it 1 bit
Urggg fine ill watch k-on ^_^
While I fell off K-On! at the start of season 2 iirc (the intro of Azusa?), I had an absolute blast digesting this video! Your dissection of why its adaptation is so well done was, simply put, excellent, in-depth, and enthralling. These are the kind of videos I live for as an animation junkie.
K-on gave me a leg fetish
At first I was a bit upset because it doesn't focus on the music aspect too much, and yet somehow I couldn't stop watching. It's cute, sure, but there's just so much detail to enjoy in things like gestures, expressions, emotions... And the jokes are all pleasant.
What little plot k-on has is replaced with so much emotion, characterization, brilliant interactions, and of course kyoto animation's quality presentation. To this day I'm still blown away by the little rushed walk Ritsu did in season 2's opening sequence. I mean, it's just a walk. A repeated small number of still drawings. And yet I could immediately think, "of course that's how Ritsu would walk!"
Somebody should make a video titled 'Why K-On is Worse Than SAO'
We all know it would be great.
Diabeetus, the PUNK BITCH MOTHER FUCKER thing was more directed at the fact that the individual in question was mocking him behind his back, so far as I can tell.
I haven't watched either past what I've seen in different people's reviews and I don't care about Kyoto Animation, and yet somehow, I just know that that video would fail to prove its point. At best, it's an Armond White situation: Ornery contrarianism couched in verbosity.
Honestly you could say that SAO has faster pacing than K-On. You could also argue that it has better worldbuidling and a more fulfilling romance.
You would have to ignore everything that's clearly bad about SAO, but there are some ways you could construct an argument.
This has become an engineering challenge now.
ahahaha.. it's not a joke?
I'm willing to watch any Digi video about the greatness of K-On a second time
When you showed the berserk scene I physically cringed, why would you do that to me?
There aren't many anime I can name that have better character designs than the manga but K-On definitely is the biggest example. The cast just pops out and look so damn adorable, whereas the manga... all of the girls look kind of plain in comparison. They aren't ugly, just lacking in what needs to be considered alluring to viewers' eyes.
I finally gave K-On! another try after years of seeing the first 4 episodes and not liking them. I still thought it was super fucking boring and dropped it at the exact same spot. Video was cool, though, I can see how the anime is definitely better than the manga.
Pythagoras Mom It's not for everyone I guess.
heard the same deal for Fafner season 1 back in the day, "Past episode 16 yo!"
that's... like past the halfway point of a &^%$'n 24/26 episode series! LOL you need a better argument bro.
It gets good by episode 783 TRUST ME!
Imo, the shows gets better once Azura joins the club, which is somewhere near the end of the anime.
K on is about moe characters
it is a masterpiece because all "moe" were on point
and there were nth like KON before itself
I agree it can be bored, but to ppl who appreciate these characters, it's really interesting
Digi, this video is so good that it actually made K-on look like it would be worth watching.
digi how did the whole copyright thing work?
I love your documentary style videos. Definitely subscribing.
Some people would probably tell you to skip most of K-on. It really annoys me when people recommend skipping "filler", and "filler" is defined as anything that's different from the manga. An anime should be judged on its own merits, not how similar it is to the manga.
I really don't like K-On, but I can totally understand why people like it. I can appreciate it as a work of art. I think a lot of people just believe their subjective lack of enjoyment of it, means that it's over-rated and not good.
Yes, exactly. Most of the people who attack it are in one of two camps: 1. Never watched it but "hurr durr moe trash" and 2. "I didn't like it which means it's objectively trash".
I have no problem with people who can recognise that it is a well made, competently put together and damn finely executed show, but just didn't like it because lsice of life isn't their thing, or whatever. But no-one can tell me that K-On is a "bad anime". There's quite a difference between "I didn't like it" and "it's bad".
Mugi totally into yuri would've made the series better
Dorohedoro You can watch yuru yuri, but it's not better
Mugi's still pretty gay, she's just much more subtle about it in the anime.
Watching this in 2020 is heartbreaking...
but the real question is the Berserk 2016 anime better than the manga?
Of course...
The fans were finally able to feel something equivalent to the full horror of the eclipse.
best comment I saw all day....
Thank you Kyoto studios :(