Squier Mini Precision bass mods Ep.5: Labella Flatwounds Deep Talkin' 760FM-P

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  • @florabee9283
    @florabee9283 9 місяців тому +8

    Oh no- the only safety I had keeping me from wanting that mini P was my fear of lack of flatwounds- now this!

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 місяців тому +6

      Oh man! My apologies to the bank account! There are, however, not very many options for flats in this scale length.
      Thanks for watching!!

  • @Kim-yl7yg
    @Kim-yl7yg 9 місяців тому +3

    Excellent Jonathan. Thank you !

  • @stephenc9040
    @stephenc9040 8 місяців тому +1

    Hi Jonathan, I've been watching your Mini P videos with interest. Went back to this one and ordered a set of La bella flatwounds as a result! I have the red model but have ordered a black pick guard from the company in Scotland that you mentioned. I don't know how you found the strap buttons but I found them too small for the strap and replaced them. Thanks again for all the work you do. It really is so helpful!

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for watching! Yeah, the buttons are pretty tiny. I typically replace buttons with Dunlop locking ones on my main basses. They don’t squeak like the schallers do. But honestly, 90% of the time these days I’m sitting down and not using a strap. Body ain’t what it used to be, unfortunately.
      Your red&black combo will look fantastic!

    • @steveverhault7384
      @steveverhault7384 5 місяців тому

      What is the company in Scotland? Need black!

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  5 місяців тому +1

      @@steveverhault7384 I get pickguards from eBay seller earl pilanz. The ones I had made look great and fit pretty well. No affiliation or sponsorship.

  • @larryjeffryes6168
    @larryjeffryes6168 Місяць тому

    Killing it with the choices. I see La Bella’s with Aguilar listed too - hard to wait, but this sounds good so far.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  Місяць тому

      Thanks for watching! The Aguilars are nice. Polite, pleasant and smooth.

  • @StevenDoyleLuke
    @StevenDoyleLuke 9 місяців тому

    Nice demo,, Man! Love the Palm-Muted/Pick tone . . .

  • @jonmatthews4254
    @jonmatthews4254 3 місяці тому

    Just bought a mini p-bass, great for the money, just so easy to play. Useful series, I might try a mod or too.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  3 місяці тому

      Nice! I hope the Mini brings you lots of playing enjoyment! Thanks for sharing with us and thanks for watching!

  • @blatantenigma3374
    @blatantenigma3374 9 місяців тому +1

    Nice! Just got me this bass and these strings, plus a set of Thomastik (my fav brand)shortscale flats

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 місяців тому

      TIs are my favourite flats too!! Thanks for watching! Hope you enjoy your bass!

    • @leomargutti
      @leomargutti 7 місяців тому

      Can you Which Thomastik specifically fit this mini P?

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  7 місяців тому +2

      @@leomargutti None of the Thomastiks are marketed to fit the mini. They make a 'short scale' version of the jazz flats 106-43 that are closer to medium scale than short. If you put them on the mini, you'll have a lot of exposed winding around the tuning post. Having said that, I string many of my main short scales with the long scale sets and they work for me just fine. In fact, it's my preferred flats and I leave them on for years. But it's a 'buyer beware' scenario as it's not recommended by the company. Wind carefully and slowly!

    • @leomargutti
      @leomargutti 7 місяців тому

      @@jonathanwong458music Thank you for the reply! I've some muscle issues on my hand and the mini P has been surprisingly accessible for playing. will get the labella you showed in the video. One last follow up if possible: do you feel a huge difference in size and playability from the mini P to a 30 inch short scale? the fret size is a bit of an issue for me.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  7 місяців тому +1

      @@leomargutti My personal preference is for the 30" scale. I find it to be the physical and sonic sweet spot/compromise, for me and my hands. It was medical issues that got me into playing short scales too. I found the 28.6" to be a bit cramped, but a lot of it is muscle memory, I think.
      By 'fret size' do you mean the fret spacing or the actual size of the fret? If finger span and reach is a limiting factor for you, then there's nothing wrong with the mini's 28.6" scale if you can play more comfortably. If it's the height and width of the fret you are referring to, I had small vintage-sized frets put on my F Bass and it's super comfortable! I much prefer it to the tall and jumbo frets more typically seen.

  • @georgegandara6054
    @georgegandara6054 5 місяців тому +1

    Hi Jonathan,I am currently using 30" scale Ernie Ball strings for my Squier mini P and my Ibanez Mikro,they work just fine! 👍🇨🇱🇨🇦

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  5 місяців тому +1

      That’s awesome to hear! I’m sure other viewers will benefit from your experience!

    • @bartdevries8531
      @bartdevries8531 4 місяці тому

      Hey, out of interest, are those the 2852 45-105 ones?

    • @georgegandara6054
      @georgegandara6054 4 місяці тому

      @@bartdevries8531 They are 2818 flatwounds cobalt

  • @jacksemporiumofstuff
    @jacksemporiumofstuff 22 дні тому

    What songs are those bass tracks from? Great video! Thank you for doing the test work so we don't have to.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  22 дні тому

      Thanks for watching! In order to avoid copyright strikes, the majority of my demo tracks are either original ideas or variations on something already out there (unless cited as a cover). This particular track is loosely based off of a Molly Johnson bass riff, but altered.

    • @jacksemporiumofstuff
      @jacksemporiumofstuff 22 дні тому

      You know, I thought that might be a problem. I hope that my ignorance won't cause you or your channel any grief. Thank you for the quick response. I only recently found your channel, and really enjoy your content!

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  22 дні тому

      No grief at all! Thanks for finding me and for watching!

  • @dustyaudio
    @dustyaudio 5 місяців тому

    Ha, the reason I bought my used mini-p, it had these and I couldn’t resist. I’m thinking of installing a Bass VI style strangle switch if I can find room in there!

  • @bb_lz9790
    @bb_lz9790 3 місяці тому

    Interesting! I like your channel and just subscribed!

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks so much watching and for your support! Much appreciated!!

  • @marksy850
    @marksy850 Місяць тому

    Thank you Jonathan for the info. Do you think it is possible to use BASS VI strings on a Squier Mini Pbass (even if it is just the 4 bassiest strings - initially)? I'd love to experiment with the idea but this will cost me to buy one... nobody really even tried this yet anywhere on the net (specially in modding a Squier Mini Pbass to be a Modded BassVI) I think it'd look cool and is ingeniously possible.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  Місяць тому

      Putting Bass VI strings on the mini P might be tonally interesting! What I’m not sure about is whether the ball ends on those will fit the bass bridge. I’ve never tried, but I’m guessing the Bass VI ball ends are smaller so they might not securely stop and might pull through. But I’m speculating…
      Thanks for watching and asking!

  • @ScrubDaddy265
    @ScrubDaddy265 2 місяці тому +1

    Leo originally meant for his basses to use flats with a mute and when you employ those, you can definitely hear why.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 місяці тому

      It's that iconic sound heard around the world. It doesn't need a lot of processing either, just pure thumpy Jamerson-esque tone. Bass to DI/amp. That's it!
      Thanks for watching!

  • @jasondorsey7110
    @jasondorsey7110 9 місяців тому +1

    Dang that thing looks tiny compared to the full size p-bass...love that blue btw, I refinished my p-bass in a color just like that

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 місяців тому

      Hahaha! The Mini really is tiny! The Fender is a player series sea foam green but for some reason, it looks way more pale (sort of aged/faded) in person than the online photos. It has more of the baby blue-ish undertones in the colour and I love it. I always wanted a seafoam green Fender!

    • @jasondorsey7110
      @jasondorsey7110 9 місяців тому

      @@jonathanwong458music I do love the look of a seafoam stratocaster, if I played 6-string I'd probably get one...as for basses, I think it looks best on a mustang...I would have gotten a vintera one if they didn't have those hideous looking pau ferro fretboards

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 місяців тому

      Pau ferro is not my favourite. Prefer rosewood and ebony myself.

    • @jasondorsey7110
      @jasondorsey7110 9 місяців тому

      @@jonathanwong458music I like maple, some people say it feels hard but I don't notice it...much of my collection is rosewood though...I find for rosewood that older is better, even the cheap old basses with plywood bodies often have nicer boards than the newer stuff

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 місяців тому

      Unfortunately, lumber for everything is not great anymore. The lumber used in my house reno are all pretty rough looking….. even if you cherry pick them from the lumber yard. All the old growth trees have been used up - I had a luthier show me how the grains in the new growth trees are all scraggly. Old trees had much tighter grains. Not sure where the classic instrument luthiers are getting their wood from in the present day.

  • @frankiepedano3518
    @frankiepedano3518 6 місяців тому +1

    I was so bummed when I saw a few videos and read a bunch of blogs about how flat wounds have too much tension for the mini P and read that the string trees break off. If thats not an issue with these particular strings I'm about to be one smitten kitten.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  6 місяців тому

      Phillip McKnight recently had a podcast where he said something along the lines of …for every person who loves a string, there’ll be someone who hates the string…
      These Labellas were made specifically for the Mini P. They have the perfect string wound length, the silk starts at the right place and you won’t have windings around the post/peg. I’m not affiliated with Labella in any way, but I have a set of their Deep Talkin’ flats on my Hofner. They’re not my favourite flat wound (TI flats) and I personally find them a bit stiff, but if Labella made these specifically for Mini P, one would assume they’ve done their homework and responsible testing!!
      I have not had any issues with these strings on the Mini used for this video nor has the current owner who has had it since the video.
      I hope they’ll work for you! Thanks for watching and asking!

    • @Kevin-mx1vi
      @Kevin-mx1vi 4 місяці тому

      Flat wounds have more tension than round wounds, but strings on short scale basses are under less tension than the strings on a 34" scale bass, so it probably evens out. Personally, I'd be happy to put flats on a mini/ short scale bass.

  • @DenisVolga
    @DenisVolga Місяць тому

    Looking to replace my PJ long scale with a short scale bass. Squier Mini or CNZ. I have 3 sets of bass strings for long scale (unpacked). If i put one of those on a new short scale, sound-wise ...?

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  Місяць тому

      You risk string breakage wrapping long scales on such a short bass, especially the low E. Some brands are more tolerant to this, but I’ve definitely broken strings doing this!
      Thanks for watching!

    • @DenisVolga
      @DenisVolga Місяць тому

      @@jonathanwong458music Then i need to buy new ones: had bad experiences of a string's breaking on guitars, getting my hand and face...not pleasant. I even developed a habit: every time i tune up a string i look sideways and lean backwards. Even with good nut and saddle...never know.

  • @MonserratFoster
    @MonserratFoster 9 місяців тому

    I put these on my Ibanez mikro almost two years ago and never looked back. I also have the cobalt flats on my 5 string (long scale), I like them both but they feel and sound different.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 місяців тому

      Great choices! The cobalts feel unlike anything else. Thanks for sharing your experiences!

  • @RockerProf
    @RockerProf 9 місяців тому

    Thanks! I had no idea there were string with winding length less than 32.25 inches.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 місяців тому +1

      As far as I know, these are the only off-the-shelf flats for mini. There are a few companies that would make you custom flats with a 31" string wound length for a premium. But I got these labellas through amazon, which gives it the convenience factor.
      Thanks for watching!

    • @RockerProf
      @RockerProf 9 місяців тому +1

      @jonathanwong458music I fear you are correct. I can put more different strings on my Jackson Minion (I have D' Addario short-scale tapes on it) and more different types on my Ibanez mikro (I have GHS short-scale Pressurewounds on it) and both of those are, like the Squier Mini P, 28.6". But... that is because the shortest bridge → peg distances on those are greater than the shortest bridge → peg distance on the Squier Mini P. Squier should have taken this into account in the design, or at least, made strings specifically for it. I also have Jim Dunlop short-scale flats on my Ibanez mikro 5-string. In all those cases, the worst result is that the nearest peg will wrap actual string past the silk no more than 1/3 of a turn, and so no harm, no foul. BTW, thank you La Bella for making these, and for their newest addition: flats for the new Kala solid-body bass ukulele with a 23.5 inch scale. And thumbs down to D' Addario, who has discontinued their short-scale half rounds. There are no short-scale half rounds out there, and GHS Pressurewounds are the closest thing I can find. I can not possibly have those Ernie Balls with the green silk.😳

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 місяців тому +2

      Wow, you've tried all the combinations! A downside to the Mini P are the tuners - not that they don't turn smoothly or don't work - but that the diameter of the post is smaller than most. As a result, you end up with a more acute angle of string winds, which further limits your string choices. I'm quite surprised that Fender hasn't made and marketed a made-for-Mini string set. The stock rounds actually are longer than ideal, as the step taper is past the tuning peg. I'd hate to spend $50-60 on flats to have the low E unravel.
      If I were Fender, I'd market a Mustang and mini scale version of their flats.

  • @alrightythen214
    @alrightythen214 9 місяців тому +2

    YES.

  • @MECarlao
    @MECarlao 5 місяців тому

    "Hello! My Precision bass has a 30" scale. I assume these strings would fit as well, right? Thank you very much and congrats! 🇧🇷

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  5 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for watching!
      Unfortunately no. This particular Labella set is for the Mini Precision which has a 28.6” scale (saddle to nut). For a 30” scale it would depend on whether it is a top load bridge or a string-through bridge.
      I have a dedicated video on finding strings for short scale basses. Here is a link:
      Find strings that fit your short scale bass - Demo and options for 30”, 28.6” and Hofner
      ua-cam.com/video/5Il0qBC-kn8/v-deo.html

  • @milosch1029
    @milosch1029 5 місяців тому

    Did you have to file the nut wider for the thicker gauge of this Labella set? I think the stock strings that come with the mini P bass are 45-105s.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  5 місяців тому +2

      Great question. I did not need to widen the nut! At least on this example, they dropped in perfectly.
      Thanks for watching!

    • @milosch1029
      @milosch1029 5 місяців тому

      @@jonathanwong458music Thanks! I'll give them a try on my mini P bass. Your videos are informative. Keep it up!

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  5 місяців тому

      Good luck! Hope you like the Labellas and thanks for the encouragement!

  • @stanley5394
    @stanley5394 7 місяців тому

    I currently play a 30-inch bass and the strings, especially the E, are fairly floppy, but I’m used to it. How does the Mini-P at 28.6 inches compare? Is it even floppier?

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  7 місяців тому

      I didn't think the stock strings on the Mini P felt significantly looser in perceived tension compared to what I usually play on a 30", but I did find the overall scale length to be a bit on the tight side, for me. My happy, most comfortable scale length is 30". The Labella flatwounds I had on the Mini P certainly increased the perceived string tension and weren't floppy at all. You might be able to get a sense of what it could feel like by putting a capo on the 1st fret on your 30". It won't be perfect, of course, but it might give you a sense.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @kasstudio2823
    @kasstudio2823 7 місяців тому

    Have you tried these LaBella strings with the EMG pickups?

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  7 місяців тому

      I haven’t. It would really depend on what type of tone you’re after. These Labellas are for those after a Motown-y old school thumpy tone. The EMG geezers are quite hot and almost modern sounding. It might be a cool pairing.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @aminahmed2220
    @aminahmed2220 9 місяців тому +1

    What a fantastic video have a wonderful weekend Jonathan ❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊

  • @Robyjv8
    @Robyjv8 9 місяців тому

    Any new plans for the Mini P ?

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 місяців тому +1

      Yes, actually! Hoping to shoot one with a Fender ‘63 pickup to get a more vintage-type character (with flats). In 2-3 weeks probably. Next little bit is nuts/busy.
      Thanks for watching and asking!

  • @C0urne
    @C0urne 9 місяців тому

    Do you have any plans for trying out some of the new(ish) 23.5" scale basses?

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 місяців тому +1

      Hi! I have the Flight mini on my radar, as well as some of the offerings by CNZ, although it seems many models are back-ordered or sold out at the moment. I'll keep looking!
      Thanks for watching and asking!

    • @RockerProf
      @RockerProf 9 місяців тому

      ​@jonathanwong458music Try the new Kala solid-body Ubass. It's awesome, and La Bella makes flats for them, which Kala sells on its website.

    • @kennyg63
      @kennyg63 9 місяців тому

      On that “note” have ever tried any of the budget brand basses being offered on Amazon? Glarry and Klaxton for example. Don’t believe they are short scale. However they have been described as lighter weight.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 місяців тому +1

      I haven't myself tried the Amazon budget offerings. I do, however, have a budget mustang style bass (

    • @kennyg63
      @kennyg63 9 місяців тому

      @@jonathanwong458music You do such a great job on hour videos!🤙

  • @rushkiss2012
    @rushkiss2012 5 місяців тому

    Are tape wounds just as good ?

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  5 місяців тому +1

      Tapewounds are a different animal. The feel is quite different from a flat wound, despite them both being flat.
      You may be interested in this video:
      Squier Bronco bass mods Ep.11: Strings! Thomastik Flatwounds vs D'Addario Tapewounds
      ua-cam.com/video/SXmrVDORT_Q/v-deo.html
      It would also be difficult to find tapewounds short enough to properly fit the mini’s scale length. Although the short scale set would probably be ok if you’re careful stringing it up.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @ArleyMcBlain
    @ArleyMcBlain 9 місяців тому

    You wear a glove on your fretting hand? Is it for health reasons like Scott Divine?

    • @ArleyMcBlain
      @ArleyMcBlain 9 місяців тому

      I hope it’s not rude to ask!

    • @ArleyMcBlain
      @ArleyMcBlain 9 місяців тому

      just read your channel description! gotcha.
      Amazing channel. My son plays this pbass. We did a tour of Fbass last summer

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 місяців тому +2

      No worries! I have a variant of dermatomyositis, which is an autoimmune disease that gives me chronic inflammation of skin, joints and muscles. As a consequence I have a lot of sores and ischemic spots on my finger tips which makes plucking and fingering/fretting painful. So the glove helps with pain control. Really should be wearing it on both hands, but it changes the tone too much. Scott Devine has focal dystonia, which is a neurological phenomenon - entirely different. The gloves have made playing much less painful but endurance is still limited, unfortunately.
      Should it interest you, here's a link to a video I made on how these gloves affect tone: ua-cam.com/video/OQcV8KDUqlg/v-deo.html
      F Basses are great! You may have seen that I had them make me a bespoke short scale. First of its kind from them! Designed from scratch.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
    @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 9 місяців тому

    Does anyone make ground wounds for this scale?

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 місяців тому +1

      D'Addario makes (used to make) a short scale version of their half rounds. But to my knowledge, not in the 28.6" scale. You might be able to get away with it, but you would have exposed windings around the peg, almost certainly. The manufacturers would not recommend it due to risk of string breakage.
      Thanks for watching!

    • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
      @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 9 місяців тому

      @@jonathanwong458music Ok thank you very much. 👍

    • @RockerProf
      @RockerProf 9 місяців тому +1

      NOT. ANY. MORE. D'Addario has discontinued their short-scale half rounds. I have put GHS Pressurewounds (similar idea, though more round than flat) on my Ibanez miKro, but they will NOT work for a Squier Mini P. Bridge --> nearest peg distance is way too short on the Mini P for them.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for sharing your experiences. Very helpful to the community!

    • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
      @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 9 місяців тому +1

      @@RockerProf Ok. Thanks man. 👍

  • @sheridansullivan5783
    @sheridansullivan5783 Місяць тому

    LaBella rules flatwounds! tone all the way off was perf for Motown... i thought, on the Mini

  • @hippoferd
    @hippoferd 9 місяців тому

    I use LaBella on a squier Pbass aswell , they sound better and better after 2 years on !

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 місяців тому

      That’s the wonderful thing with flats. Leave them on for life and they’ll keep getting thumpier! Thanks for watching!

  • @paulbucklebuckle4921
    @paulbucklebuckle4921 5 місяців тому

    Boom ,, boom, nice.

  • @georgegandara6054
    @georgegandara6054 5 місяців тому

    Ernie Ball Cobalt short scale flatwounds 30" work pretty well for 28"

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  5 місяців тому

      Awesome to hear! You like the feel and the tone from the cobalts? They have a unique texture and grind unlike other string metals.
      Thanks for sharing your experiences!

    • @georgegandara6054
      @georgegandara6054 5 місяців тому

      @@jonathanwong458music flatwound Cobalts feel great!!!

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  5 місяців тому +1

      Outstanding!

  • @DenisVolga
    @DenisVolga Місяць тому

    To me, round, not flat strings are only for hard, loud music and garbage. Plus, it is much more comfortable to play and less sweeping noise with flats.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  Місяць тому

      Hahaha. Different strings for different applications!
      Thanks for watching!

  • @derpderpson8796
    @derpderpson8796 7 місяців тому

    WAs honestly not watching the screen, aound changed a bit and was like "ha sure, that must be the Mini yet." But it was the Fender.
    There I get my wife beating me up again Q_Q